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		<title>By: Mike353511</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2010/07/31/berkman-expected-in-tampa-tonight/comment-page-3/#comment-1478338</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike353511</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 19:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Melancon wasn&#039;t given a fair shot, the way we used him was pretty bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Melancon wasn&#8217;t given a fair shot, the way we used him was pretty bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike353511</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2010/07/31/berkman-expected-in-tampa-tonight/comment-page-3/#comment-1478311</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike353511</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 19:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think Melancon was given a fair shot. When we called him up we didn&#039;t use him for like a week and then when we did use him, he was rusty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think Melancon was given a fair shot. When we called him up we didn&#8217;t use him for like a week and then when we did use him, he was rusty.</p>
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		<title>By: MystiqueAura</title>
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		<dc:creator>MystiqueAura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 19:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dustin Richardson is also on the way up to Boston, in addition to Ryan Kalish, trade coming, or Cameron to DL?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dustin Richardson is also on the way up to Boston, in addition to Ryan Kalish, trade coming, or Cameron to DL?</p>
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		<title>By: CB</title>
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		<dc:creator>CB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 19:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s often argued that what made the &quot;core 4 + Bernie&quot; special wasn&#039;t that they yankees developed those players but that they could keep them together.  The implication being that other teams like the Indians, Padres, etc. haven&#039;t had a &quot;core&quot; like that due to financial limitations.  That&#039;s a very commonly made argument.  That&#039;s may not be what&#039;s being argued in this thread.  But that&#039;s frequently said.  

That&#039;s a specious argument because teams it&#039;s not true that keeping the core together was the big trick.  Developing the core in the first place was the hardest part.  Since the rule 4 draft was started teams rarely if ever have 5 hall of fame caliber players developed internally.  It doesn&#039;t happen so the issue of money keeping them together is secondary.  That was the only point I was trying to make there.  That may not have been the argument in this thread, however.

Conversely, if it is so historically uncommon to have a core of internally developed players of that caliber, it argues that trying to repeat that pathway actually isn&#039;t a good strategy because you are trying to recreate a black swan of sorts.  It&#039;s turning a historical aberration into a model but it&#039;s not a model that is necessarily reproducible.  

Pragmatically blending internally developed talent with outside talent is likely the best pathway forward and I think that&#039;s the one they are taking.  The key part of this strategy is of course talent evaluation as knowing which young players to keep and which to get trade is fundamental to success.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s often argued that what made the &#8220;core 4 + Bernie&#8221; special wasn&#8217;t that they yankees developed those players but that they could keep them together.  The implication being that other teams like the Indians, Padres, etc. haven&#8217;t had a &#8220;core&#8221; like that due to financial limitations.  That&#8217;s a very commonly made argument.  That&#8217;s may not be what&#8217;s being argued in this thread.  But that&#8217;s frequently said.  </p>
<p>That&#8217;s a specious argument because teams it&#8217;s not true that keeping the core together was the big trick.  Developing the core in the first place was the hardest part.  Since the rule 4 draft was started teams rarely if ever have 5 hall of fame caliber players developed internally.  It doesn&#8217;t happen so the issue of money keeping them together is secondary.  That was the only point I was trying to make there.  That may not have been the argument in this thread, however.</p>
<p>Conversely, if it is so historically uncommon to have a core of internally developed players of that caliber, it argues that trying to repeat that pathway actually isn&#8217;t a good strategy because you are trying to recreate a black swan of sorts.  It&#8217;s turning a historical aberration into a model but it&#8217;s not a model that is necessarily reproducible.  </p>
<p>Pragmatically blending internally developed talent with outside talent is likely the best pathway forward and I think that&#8217;s the one they are taking.  The key part of this strategy is of course talent evaluation as knowing which young players to keep and which to get trade is fundamental to success.</p>
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		<title>By: DaSaint007</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaSaint007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 19:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yankees have done a fine job with their young talent. Better than in the past. Some folks here always seem to see the sky falling. Either today or in 2-4 years. I guess we need a replacement for Cano in 8 years too. Better start looking. And oh yeah, A-Rod is having an off year - only 85+ RBIs thus far. Big dropoff. Please.

Anyway, infield and bullpen haven&#039;t been addressed yet, if they in fact are going to be. Sad to see Melancon go, but that&#039;s life. Can&#039;t hold on to everyone, and you have to give to get.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yankees have done a fine job with their young talent. Better than in the past. Some folks here always seem to see the sky falling. Either today or in 2-4 years. I guess we need a replacement for Cano in 8 years too. Better start looking. And oh yeah, A-Rod is having an off year &#8211; only 85+ RBIs thus far. Big dropoff. Please.</p>
<p>Anyway, infield and bullpen haven&#8217;t been addressed yet, if they in fact are going to be. Sad to see Melancon go, but that&#8217;s life. Can&#8217;t hold on to everyone, and you have to give to get.</p>
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		<title>By: mick</title>
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		<dc:creator>mick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 19:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: SJ44</title>
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		<dc:creator>SJ44</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 19:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its not absurd at all.

Have you looked at how this team has changed in the last four years?

They have three OF&#039;s now all under 30 years old and all are making less than what the 
Red Sox are paying Cameron and JD Drew this year.

They have a 24 year old kid in their rotation they are developing to be a top end starting pitcher.  He made the AS team in his first full year as a starter.  They have to be doing something right.

Tex, Cano, and CC are cornerstone guys for the next five years.  Name me another team that has three guys of that pedigree and talent locked up for the next 4-5 years.

We aren&#039;t even talking about Arod and Jeter and neither one of those guys are done.

You seem fixated by the belief the only way the Yankees can stay competitive is to develop a homegrown core.

I&#039;m saying the way they stay competitive is balance.  Use free agency intelligently.  Accumulate enough minor league assets to trade AND bring to NY, achieves that balance.

The last thing they should do is try and become the Rays.  That&#039;s a foolish allocation of resources because the fail rate with young players is much, much larger than the fail rate with free agents (especially if you sign the right one&#039;s) and trading for younger talent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its not absurd at all.</p>
<p>Have you looked at how this team has changed in the last four years?</p>
<p>They have three OF&#8217;s now all under 30 years old and all are making less than what the<br />
Red Sox are paying Cameron and JD Drew this year.</p>
<p>They have a 24 year old kid in their rotation they are developing to be a top end starting pitcher.  He made the AS team in his first full year as a starter.  They have to be doing something right.</p>
<p>Tex, Cano, and CC are cornerstone guys for the next five years.  Name me another team that has three guys of that pedigree and talent locked up for the next 4-5 years.</p>
<p>We aren&#8217;t even talking about Arod and Jeter and neither one of those guys are done.</p>
<p>You seem fixated by the belief the only way the Yankees can stay competitive is to develop a homegrown core.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m saying the way they stay competitive is balance.  Use free agency intelligently.  Accumulate enough minor league assets to trade AND bring to NY, achieves that balance.</p>
<p>The last thing they should do is try and become the Rays.  That&#8217;s a foolish allocation of resources because the fail rate with young players is much, much larger than the fail rate with free agents (especially if you sign the right one&#8217;s) and trading for younger talent.</p>
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		<title>By: trisha - true pinstriped blue</title>
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		<dc:creator>trisha - true pinstriped blue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 19:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You actually believe the MLBN?

Ha!!!!!!!!!!&quot;

Hello voice of reason!  Hope things are going well for you.  I&#039;d love to see a picture of Wills and his sister.  I&#039;m sure she&#039;s gorgeous.  My email address changed but when I emailed you I got a bounceback, so so has yours since we last emailed.  If you&#039;re still on Yuku, post some there!  If not and you don&#039;t mind doing it, email Chad and ask him to pass on my email address to you.  I no longer post it anywhere.  If you don&#039;t know the reason I&#039;ll explain it when I hear from you.

:)

XOX

In the meantime, keep the troops calm regarding where Berkman will bat in the lineup.  As for me, I have some shopping to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You actually believe the MLBN?</p>
<p>Ha!!!!!!!!!!&#8221;</p>
<p>Hello voice of reason!  Hope things are going well for you.  I&#8217;d love to see a picture of Wills and his sister.  I&#8217;m sure she&#8217;s gorgeous.  My email address changed but when I emailed you I got a bounceback, so so has yours since we last emailed.  If you&#8217;re still on Yuku, post some there!  If not and you don&#8217;t mind doing it, email Chad and ask him to pass on my email address to you.  I no longer post it anywhere.  If you don&#8217;t know the reason I&#8217;ll explain it when I hear from you.</p>
<p> <img src='http://yankees.lhblogs.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>XOX</p>
<p>In the meantime, keep the troops calm regarding where Berkman will bat in the lineup.  As for me, I have some shopping to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Perlo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Perlo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 19:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It’s true that their financial resources made it possible for them to keep them together. But it’s extraordinarily rare to have assembled that much talent together internally. It just doesn’t happen.
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CB,
Generally true but I can&#039;t think of anybody who outproduced the Braves and even the Expos of the 1990&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s true that their financial resources made it possible for them to keep them together. But it’s extraordinarily rare to have assembled that much talent together internally. It just doesn’t happen.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
CB,<br />
Generally true but I can&#8217;t think of anybody who outproduced the Braves and even the Expos of the 1990&#8242;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich in NJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich in NJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 19:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bret

We got  Soria?

Laird and Nunez have a lot to prove to be at that level.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bret</p>
<p>We got  Soria?</p>
<p>Laird and Nunez have a lot to prove to be at that level.</p>
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