Curtis and Miranda optioned
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jul 31, 2010 
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Colin Curtis and Juan Miranda are packing their bags. They’ve been optioned.
By the way, “packing their bags” is not a figure of speech. Curtis and Miranda have lockers next to one another in the Tampa clubhouse and they were literally packing their bags when the reporters walked in.
Poor Curtis!
That about wraps it up.
Um…*Test*
Laura,
You overestimating the risk on this deal.
It is nothing like NJ because NJ was going to be a regular that played everyday.
Wood is just another arm in the bullpen that will hopefully pitch a few days a week.
If Wood gets hurt or doesn’t work out then you have a list of arms in the minors who can just eat innings.
OTOH if Wood is effective, it is a huge boost to the bullpen.
The risk here is extremely minimal.
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Wood has the potential to really be a nice acquisition. Yes there is an element of risk involved in this trade but I can’t imagine the Yanks are giving up a very good prospect in this trade. If Wood is healthy he can be a good power arm out of the pen. Him, Robertson, Joba, Hughes (probably in the postseason) would form a fairly solid bridge to the Greatest of all time.
PTBNL or cash for Wood.
Will Park be DFA’d?
Bret-
I like the Berkman and Kearns moves.
Maybe Cash will upgrade El Nino in August when he sees what falls out of the trees.
D-Rob is my EIG for now.
The rest of them can fight over the scraps.
“The risk here is extremely minimal.”
Perhaps. I just don’t like signing guys who have bad histories. To me, you’re just asking for trouble.
I also don’t get why they didn’t give Alby a chance. He pitched well the short time he was up here yet they didn’t think he could help them. I don’t get that.
SI_JonHeyman
he was asking price for hart or bautista. interesting. RT @hankschulman J. Sanchez seen hugging Giants in dugout? Say it ain’t so
Poor Curtis!! I really like his swing and at bats. If he was a righty the Yanks probably wouldn’t of made the Kearns deal but being a lefty didn’t help him. He will be back.
SI_JonHeyman he was asking price for hart or bautista. interesting. RT @hankschulman J. Sanchez seen hugging Giants in dugout? Say it ain’t so
LGY, I agree…………again, this is what the Yankees should be doing. So who cares if he doesn’t work out? Last I checked, they don’t have a lifetime comittment to the guy. Yankees can take chances other teams can’t; good for them.
SI_Jon Heyman
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#yankees have found relief market dismal. wood just came back from DL, and if hes healthy, he has a chance to be great
MTU,
I don’t like the way GM’s holding high impact players try to abuse Cashman and the yankees while trading off those assets for lesser talent.
If the Giants trade him for Bautista they are making a huge mistake. Hart is a little more palatable but Sanchez has a great arm, then again arms are not what the Giants are lacking.
“2:45pm: The Indians will receive a player to be named later or cash for Wood, tweets ESPN’s Jayson Stark.”
ah, the great “player to be named later”..
curtis might be a good piece moving next year. it might be good for him to play everyday in aaa.
he’ll be the fourth outfielder next year
It comes down to prices. While Matt Capps, or Scott Downs, or whomever might be preferable, the price you pay does matter. Would you trade Austin Romine, or Eduardo Nunez, or Andrew Brackman for one of these guys? I wouldn’t.
If you can Kerry Wood, and the chance of a strikeout guy who’s on for the next three months, for a reasonable price, why not? And, if he doesn’t pan out, since he wasn’t a steep price, you can release him without any agita, and give Albie?Dejo a go.
I like Wood a lot better than a guy with a NL ERA of over almost 9.
booo! i was hoping Thames be DFA’d , but i understand, Yanks digs dude who can hit lefties.
CB,
Braves:
Tom Glavine
John Smoltz (kinda)
Ron Gant
David Justice
Javy Lopez
Kent Mercker
Mike Stanton
Mark Wohlers
Steve Avery
Kevin Millwood
Jeff Blauser
Chipper Jones
Andruw Jones
Ryan Klesko
Mark Lemke
Greg McMichael
Kerry Ligtenberg
Jermaine Dye
Neither the Expos or Braves were as “concentrated” as the Yankees in a 1-2 year stretch, but certainly more depth over an 8-10 years period.
Jayson Stark:
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#Indians will get player to be named later or cash from #Yankees for Kerry Wood. #trades
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I sort of agree about Alby, but obviously Cash did not…
repost – can’t keep up with Chad!
Perlo-
I know. That organization did a tremendous job. Yankee fans like to talk about the strike year as a wasted chance for a ring, but that year hurt the expos more than anyone else.
They clearly had a core internally developed that could have (should have?) won them a world series.
But there aren’t 5 players as a cohort on that list that come close to what the yankees internally developed in that same period of time. Not 5 together, especially when you consider the balance of players the yankees had.
The yankees produced 3 HOF caliber up the middle players. That’s crazy. It wasn’t even as if they produced a HOF 1b, RF and LF. Catcher, SS and CF. Then you add in the closer and an anchor for the starting rotation – just phenomenal.
Expos were very good. Braves too. Not close to what the yankees did.
Sherman: Yanks picking up 1.5 million on Wood.
Suspect Yankees are getting some $$$ included, otherwise he would have been available in August as a full remaining salary dump! Was on DL for a blister. Suspect Park will be gone soon.
Bench is almost completely a veteran bunch. Too bad Jhonny Peralta was already traded, but he would have been unhappy playing only 1-2 days/week.
Bret-
Nobody does. Least of all Cashman. He ain’t playing fleece the Yankees anymore, and thankfully he doesn’t have to.
Bench of Kearns, Thames,Pena,Cervelli
Pen of Mo, Joba,Robo,Mitre, Mosely, Wood,Gaudin (Marte and Aceves? in the wings)
Def. upgrade.
Kepner:
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Kerry Wood has a 3.78 ERA and is 8 of 10 in saves since May 21. Overall #s look worse because he got shelled May 19 (5 ER, 1/3 inning)
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I don’t know why some people don’t like this move.
Joelsherman1 #Yankees picking up about $1.5M of $3.6M owed Wood
Joelsherman1 #Yankees picking up about $1.5M of $3.6M owed Wood
Laura
Worst case scenario, Hal’s kids inheritance and Kerry Woods feelings get hurt just a little bit.
PTBNL
Kei Igawa
Ok, Im now on board with this Wood deal.
Tyler
I said yesterday that the Yankees should look to the Indians roster for relievers. I never envisioned Wood, though!
Trading for Wood doesn’t mean they still can’t give Alby a chance down the road.
Kerry Wood is the classic no risk deal.
The Indians are paying a chunk on the deal and no propsect of substance goes back to Cleveland in return.
If he helps, its a huge asset. If he doesn’t, you lose nothing.
Remember, they don’t need the guy for 40 innings. If he gives them 15 quality innings the rest of the way, that’s a boost.
Utility infielder I guess will wait until August; that’s probably fine, the additions Cash has made certainly address the most pressing issues the team had. Hopefully someone useful gets through waivers.
Bret- for 1.5M out of a remaining about 4.75M worth the risk.
The Yankees are putting a truckload of faith in Joba Chamberlain.
That’s just what they’re doing.
Harold Reynolds apparently said Wood isn’t a good fit – what kind of dumb comment is that? Maybe he’ll suck – and if he does, he’ll be released. Given the price on these relievers, Cash did exactly the right thing.
Wood, little risk here. Good luck to Curtis and Miranda. I am sure we will see them again.
Heyman on MLB – Cleveland will pay 2.1M of Wood’s remaining 3.6M. Yankees still working.
I can see Colin Curtis as bench OF next year. Along with Kearns?
Harold also said he would bat Cano 7th. hahaha
Sorry 1.5M out of 3.6M per Heyman, but i believe the total remaining salary is wrong since total 2010 money was 10 million
Will we see anything on YES?
Wood is a risk in the 8th is what Reynolds said.
wood has the potential to be much better than park. good trade, doesn’t seem like they’ll give up anything of consequence
CB July 31st, 2010 at 3:47 pm
Perlo-
I know. That organization did a tremendous job. Yankee fans like to talk about the strike year as a wasted chance for a ring, but that year hurt the expos more than anyone else.
They clearly had a core internally developed that could have (should have?) won them a world series.
But there aren’t 5 players as a cohort on that list that come close to what the yankees internally developed in that same period of time. Not 5 together, especially when you consider the balance of players the yankees had.
The yankees produced 3 HOF caliber up the middle players. That’s crazy. It wasn’t even as if they produced a HOF 1b, RF and LF. Catcher, SS and CF. Then you add in the closer and an anchor for the starting rotation – just phenomenal.
Expos were very good. Braves too. Not close to what the yankees did.
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CB,
I must agree with you that the concentration of such talent in such a short time at key positions is nearly unheard of.
I guess you could look to the Philadelphia A’s of the late ’20′s, perhaps some Yankee teams of the late ’30′s or early ’50′s, and a few others but it is a comparison of apples to firetrucks then (no draft, different minor league setup, no FA, fewer interleague trades, etc.).
In many ways, this bonanza of talent at such hard-to-develop talent positions has allowed the Yanks to be successful in the early 2000′s despite a general player development malaise.
Perlo-
Agree with you that the braves and expos produced more depth and did so by a solid margin.
But I wasn’t referring to depth. I was referring to true brilliance in a well defined cohort of kids who came up at the same time.
Combine the expos list and the braves list you put up. Even between both organizations you can’t find 5 players of the caliber the yankees had (btw – no credit for Smoltz!).
What the Braves and Expos did is infrequent but it’s not historically rare. Concentrating on player development one can be hopeful of producing that kind of depth.
5 HOF fame caliber players together? No organization can hope to reproduce that as a strategy. It’s an historical anomaly.
Kerry costs virtually nothing to the Yankees. Bigger potential reward than risk….it gives them more depth if nothing else….he still has a big arm if he can stay on the field.
$1.5 mil for a late inning reliever for two months. I can remember when that would buy 15 Mickey Mantles.
Still in all, NYY gets part of their money back and Wood is a relatively no risk deal.
Who pitches the 8th for the Yankees is still not known yet so Reynolds and others need to relax as Girardi sorts through this situation over the last couple months of the season.
pjmclaugh Ken, whom did the Yankees give the Indians for Wood?
KenDavidoff Biff Montero, Jesus’ older, less-talented brother.
(don’t know yet)
Ken_Rosenthal
.#Dodgers get Dotel. For Lamb and McDonald
I hope Park is sent packing.
# Bret The Hitman July 31st, 2010 at 3:52 pm
The Yankees are putting a truckload of faith in Joba Chamberlain.
That’s just what they’re doing.
Not really Bret, I think right now the one guy Joe and Cashman trust is Robertson, more than Joba, whether he is pitching in the 8th or not, he’s the guy they have been going to in tight situations.
Last night was the best Joba has looked in a long time, lets see what he does in his next outing, but it was an improvement.
Wood is a power arm, if he works great, if not, you tried at least.
I don’t see him pitching in any big situations until he proves he is reliable.
I’m hoping that D-Rob continues to pitch well and emerges as our EIG.
Someone must go in the pen, Park?
Dotel to Dodgers
I think a bullpen of Moseley, Mitre, Wood, Chamberlain, Robertson, Logan/Marte, Rivera is pretty solid. Also factor in if somehow Aceves gets healthy and can come back, you can subtract one of Moseley or Mitre–that is a real strong ‘pen. Either way it looks better without Gaudin and Park in it, at least.
Dodgers had a good day today. Lilly and Dotel will help them. Trying to give Torre a chance in probably his last year as manager.
I don’t hope Park is sent packing. Park can be successful in one inning roles. We already have our long-man, spot starter in Moseley. Get rid of Gaudin or Mitre
Kerry Wood gave up 5 runs in 0.1 innings on May 19th.
It is very hard to overcome that sort of appearance as a reliever especially since Wood got injured and was out for a few weeks, hence the ugly ERA.
agree, Capt Clutch, Colleti is a very good GM, consider he had little to work with.
At least co,in and Juan will be back at very latest in September. More than can be said about park after this wood deal is finalized!
Bullpen shaping up nicely with power arm strikeout pitchers: Rivera, D-Rob, Joba, Wood.
And I’ll admit that Logan has surprised me as the situational lefty.
So, the Yankees have acquired Berkman, Kearns and Wood for Melancon, Parades and two PTBNL.
They had the Astros and Indians pickup nearly 6 million dollars in payroll to cover these transaction.
They gave up nothing of value, improved themselves, and got two teams to kick in that much money in salary relief.
Their closest competitors, Boston and Tampa did nothing of substance.
I’d say they had a good two days.
will the dodgers use dotel as a closer? If not, then should I get someone else to replace him for my fantasy team?
Very busy day (for the Yankees and for me), so it’s tough to keep with all the comments, but it seems like they’re trying to catch lightning in a bottle with Kerry Wood. I hope it works out.
# CR9 July 31st, 2010 at 4:00 pm
I don’t hope Park is sent packing. Park can be successful in one inning roles. We already have our long-man, spot starter in Moseley. Get rid of Gaudin or Mitre
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Park is not terrible in one inning situation. The problem i see is that , Park is a twiner, I can’t trust him in high leverage situations, which essentially takes him out of 7-8 inning and he is ill apt to pitch middle or long relief. so base on that , I rather have mitre or gaudin.
Yes you should unless u have holds in that league.
Sherman: Yanks added 5.3 million to payroll at deadline.
will the dodgers use dotel as a closer?
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Broxton is the Dodgers closer. Dotel will help set up with Kuo.
Perlo-
The closest comparisons are probably the Big Red Machine and the A’s teams of the early 1970′s. But even they didn’t produce a core that went on to play so well for so long at such a high level, particularly with such a diversity of player positions represented.
LGY-
Not trying to be negative but take a look at Wood’s BB/9 or WHIP, and remember he is a reliever then tell me if you can get excited.
Leaves me scratching my head that a team in bankruptcy was able to make possibly the most impactful moves this trade season.
Are we having fun yet?
Yanks have made the last 24hrs REAL interesting, no?
Overall, I am pretty happy with what they did. A lot of low risk/high reward moves.
Nice job by all of Yankees FO.
CB,
I agree the Yanks success was unprecedented. This only furthers my point that this team should continue to actively pursue internal development as the cornerstone for roster constitution along with the occasionally well-chosen FA. Hopefully in the future, continued player development will allow us to avoid being painted into a corner where we have little leverage and are forced to overspend on certain FA’s to remain competitive (ie–A.J. Burnett).
I’d say Cash did a pretty good job, all things considered.
SJ-
I agree with you on Berkman and Kearns. Great pickups.
Let’s Go Yankees
Fun with SSS:
Woods’s ERA since May 21: 3.78
Good dealine for the Yanks IMO:
Also, I’m a Yankee fan first and foremost but as many of you know I also root for the Braves as my NL team.
The Braves have a long time manager that is about to retire and a real chance to win this year and what do they do at the deadline…..absolutely nothing. We as Yankee fans are lucky to cheer for a team that is so committed to winning each and every season.
BloggingBombers Berkman said he thinks he’ll be hitting in the No. 2 spot initially.
Mick – that’s right. I’d say either Park or Gaudin. Wouldn’t be surprised if one or the other is gone in a last second deal.
SJ is a very bottom line guy.
“I’d say Cash did a pretty good job, all things considered.”
We won’t know if he did a good job or not until the regular and post seasons play out. Right now, all we can do is just cross our fingers and hope that things work out in our favor.
“They gave up nothing of value, improved themselves, and got two teams to kick in that much money in salary relief.”
I think we have to know the identities of the PTBNL to know what that value is, if anything.
I look forward to the first whining comment about how the $5 million spent this deadline could have been used to bring back Damon. You know it’s coming. Godspeed to whoever does it, because I am pretty happy adding these 3 guys on top of what’s an already great team.
As many of us have said from the start of the year the team Cash starts with is NEVER the team he ends with. He is always wiling to make the necessary moves needed to improve the team as we get to th deadlines. Again he did it this year.
The Yankees add Lance Berkman, Austin Kearns, and Kerry Wood while adding $5.3MM to their payroll. What all did they give up? Mark Melancon, Jimmy Paredes, and 2 PTBNL.
The Red Sox did nothing, the Rays added the embarassment of Chad Qualls to their bullpen.
These have been a very good two days for the Yankees. They deserve a resounding A.
LGY-
In Wood’s last 7 appearances before the DL he pitched a total of 5.2 innings with 2 earned runs, so that one outing really skewed his ERA upward.
Harold thinks Yankees have had best deadline deals.
Verducci liked Ludwick deal.
Hart likes Dodgers deals.
Personally the Rangers had a great deal IMO
again gaudan is not better then Park and Mitre or Mosely can be the long man.
get rid of gaudin.
the moves were brilliant gave up 1 guy Melancon who did not produce this year for the Yanks or SWB… IF none of these moves work out so what they are all 2 month rentals….
CB,
Forgot the A’s of the late ’60′s and early ’70′s.
san diego made good moves. they have no offense and they made legit moves to try to add offense so they did well also.
“BloggingBombers Berkman said he thinks he’ll be hitting in the No. 2 spot initially.”
Then they truly intend on him replacing NJ because that’s where he was hitting for the five seconds he actually played this season.
“I look forward to the first whining comment about how the $5 million spent this deadline could have been used to bring back Damon. ”
Damon wanted two years from the Yankees. Period.
Blake-
I understand how you feel about Cox. I like him too.
Unfortunately for the Braves the Phillies have improved significantly and the Braves stood pat.
That ain’t good if you are a Braves fan.
I hope Berkman likes the media lol
SD and the Yanks had the best deadlines….SD may have significantly helped punch their playoff ticket.
Players to be named later are never significant prospects in deals like this.
In the Cleveland case, it may just be the money the Yankees are picking up and a prospect may not even be going back in return for Wood.
grazdanny
Berkman, Kearns, Wood…an absolutely awesome 2003 trade deadline haul for the #Yankees. 26 minutes ago via Seesmic
“By the way, “packing their bags” is not a figure of speech. Curtis and Miranda have lockers next to one another in the Tampa clubhouse and they were literally packing their bags when the reporters walked in.”
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LOL, ouch.
Curtis did a decent job in limited time
Miranda, bleh, he never took advantage of his DH opportunity, as a starving player you have to do that when given a chance.
See you in September, callups that is,
Laura – I Bleed Blue July 31st, 2010 at 4:07 pm
“I’d say Cash did a pretty good job, all things considered.”
We won’t know if he did a good job or not until the regular and post seasons play out. Right now, all we can do is just cross our fingers and hope that things work out in our favor.
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I, seemingly unlike most people, evaluate decisions when they are made. IMO Cashman made good decisions considering what was practically available.
Huuuughes
Part of the Kerry wood deal is that the Yankees will pay an extra $200,000 if Wood stays healthy for the rest of the season.
MTU,
The Yankees spoil me because I assume the other teams I follow will be as committed to winning as they are and its just not always so.
Surprised they didn’t get rid of Park.
Agreed about San Diego blake, really like them adding Ludwick. Tejada eh but he’s an offensive improvement for them, but Ludwick is definitely a great get. The Cardinals look pretty foolish for swapping him for Westbrook, I understand the need for SP but John Jay is not better than Ludwick.
Other teams are committed to winning. They just can’t afford to back that commitment up with dollars.
The Braves acquired Rick Ankiel and Kyle Farnsworth from the Royals
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Go Braves!!! Krazy Kyle…
No doubt Cash was aggressive going for Kearns to platoon Grandy v lefties.
Thames can still DH vs lefties.
Jeter,Swish,Tex, Alex,Cano,Po, Kearns,Thames, Gardy—v lefties.
Jeter, Swish, Tex,Alex, Cano,Po, Berkman, Grandy, Gardy–v rightys
Pick your poison.
“stuart a July 31st, 2010 at 4:07 pm
again gaudan is not better then Park and Mitre or Mosely can be the long man.
get rid of gaudin.”
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My sincere hope is that Alfredo Aceves renders them all irrelevant when all is said and done
“Players to be named later are never significant prospects in deals like this.”
Significant is a relative term. For example, Melancon still has some upside. We need to know who these players are before a full assessment can made. It’s that simple.
The Giants acquired reliever Ramon Ramirez from the Red Sox
Significant is a relative term. For example, Melancon still has some upside. We need to know who these players are before a full assessment can made. It’s that simple.
“Players to be named later are never significant prospects in deals like this.”
I will say this for you. You always take the view that puts the Yankees in the best light possible.
I am more of a realist.
blake – MLBN just announced that the Braves acquired Kyle Farnsworth and Rick Ankiel.
# igotid88 July 31st, 2010 at 4:11 pm
Surprised they didn’t get rid of Park.
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The reality is Park can only face righties when you look at his splits
vs R – .237 AVG, .318 OBP, .382 SLG, .699 OPS
vs L – .328 AVG, .366 OBP, .597 SLG, .963 OPS
Its clear as the light of day that he should only be used when an inning has 2 or 3 righties in a row coming up an then get him out the game before the lefty batters appear, especially if men are on base.
The Giants acquired reliever Ramon Ramirez from the Red Sox
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for whom?
Krazy Kyle back to Atlanta? Best of luck to him, Wren is serious about giving Cox the best chance to be in the playoffs in his last year, hat’s off to that. Ankiel is mediocre defensively in CF and can’t hit aside from the occasional bomb. For the Braves, they’ve managed to accumulate some crummy left-handed centerfielders in McLouth and Ankiel. But I guess they always have Melky…
Surprised they didn’t get rid of Park.
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someone has to go..
Joe,
Yea I just saw that….I guess thats something but not exactly what I was looking for.
NEW POST===>>>>>>
Ninja Cash did his thing, IMO , gave up nothing and bought low… we will see.
Still need a uti guy replace the woeful Pena. looks like a jaggernaut team on paper to me, let’s me if we can beat Tampa tonight and Javy can survive in a ‘big’ game.
“# mick July 31st, 2010 at 4:12 pm
No doubt Cash was aggressive going for Kearns to platoon Grandy v lefties.
Thames can still DH vs lefties.
Jeter,Swish,Tex, Alex,Cano,Po, Kearns,Thames, Gardy—v lefties.
Jeter, Swish, Tex,Alex, Cano,Po, Berkman, Grandy, Gardy–v rightys
Pick your poison.”
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I have to think that or certainly part of his thinking is that late on Thames can pinch hit for Granderson against tough lefties and Kearns goes into left field and Gardner to center.
I like Grandy but the guy cannot CONSTITENTLY hit lefties, yeah once in a while he will get a hit and we notice it but the other 3 of 4 AB’s he is helpless against lefties.
vs Lefties – .214 AVG, .252 OBP, .286 SLG, .538 OPS, 1 HR, 4 RBI, 2 2B
In critical spots in a game late on down the stretch good to have the option to pinch hit for Granderson against lefties in a game.
His numbers are just too drastic to ignore.
Doreen all the best on your holiday. Enjoy California!
‘Just DFA Reegie Corona to open a spot on the 40 for Kearns. Never quite understood why he was added in the first place’
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neither do I. Had watched Corona play in Tampa-A (along with Cervelli). Corona is minor league filler
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