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Park designated for assignment

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jul 31, 2010 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

To make room on the roster…

Chan Ho Park designated for assignment.

Alfredo Aceves moved to the 60-day disabled list.

Colin Curtis and Juan Miranda optioned to Triple-A.

Aceves has been out more than 60 days, so that move really has no impact other than opening a spot on the 40-man roster.

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441 Responses to “Park designated for assignment”

  1. Laura - I Bleed Blue July 31st, 2010 at 4:37 pm

    I saw that Park move coming. That 2 inning performance the other night was a clear sign that the Yankees were done with him.

  2. Betsy July 31st, 2010 at 4:37 pm

    Whew…………the posts are flying.

    Park was just awful, so this was a long time in coming

  3. Fondo Motz July 31st, 2010 at 4:38 pm

    No loss on Chan Ho

  4. Betsy July 31st, 2010 at 4:39 pm

    When did Ace last pitch?

  5. LeTHuL27 July 31st, 2010 at 4:39 pm

    YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  6. tampayank July 31st, 2010 at 4:39 pm

    giggity

  7. Fondo Motz July 31st, 2010 at 4:39 pm

    Chad -thanks for the clarification on Aceves to the 60 day list

  8. yankswin27 July 31st, 2010 at 4:39 pm

    YES!!!!!!!!!! Our team is absolutely stacked now!!!!

    Jeter SS, Berkman DH, Teixeira 1B, Rodriguez 3B, Cano 2B, Posada C, Granderson CF, Swisher RF, Gardner LF

    Thames OF, Kearns OF, Cervelli C, Pena IF

    Sabathia LHP, Burnett RHP, Vazquez RHP, Hughes RHP, Moseley RHP (soon to be Pettitte)

    Rivera CP, Robertson SU, Chamberlain SU, Wood MRP, Logan MRP, Mitre MRP, Gaudin LRP

  9. CR9 July 31st, 2010 at 4:40 pm

    awww, bye Park.

  10. Captain Clutch July 31st, 2010 at 4:40 pm

    You know some NL team will pick up Park and he will be decent in the AAA NL.

  11. 57ryank July 31st, 2010 at 4:41 pm

    Park will go back to N.L. and probably be successful. Couldn’t do it here ! Too bad.

  12. Cashmoney July 31st, 2010 at 4:41 pm

    I am really hoping Javy come through tonight , very very uncomfortable with him in a big spot.

  13. Rich in NJ July 31st, 2010 at 4:41 pm

    “What did we learn these past few days?

    We learned that Hal is just like his dad.”

    Actually, he’s better. The old George would have ordered his GM to give up top prospects for a bullpen upgrade.

  14. Fondo Motz July 31st, 2010 at 4:41 pm

    Mets should look at Chan Ho

  15. Andrew July 31st, 2010 at 4:42 pm

    So Park’s lasting impact on the 2010 Yankees will be a hilarious YouTube video. Well, and the 3-inning relief stint in Fenway in which he got the win. But yeah, the low risk/high reward signings from the offseason not looking so good. Park will probably post a 2.00 ERA in the NL for whatever team picks him up after this.

  16. Yogi Mantle July 31st, 2010 at 4:42 pm

    I can’t say this is surprising. I believe this was known when Park was pitching in Cleveland, and probably why he was left in so long instead of using another BP arm in a blow out game.

    I could see some NL team picking him up. Wood is an upgrade over Park.

  17. Laura - I Bleed Blue July 31st, 2010 at 4:42 pm

    Somebody somewhere likes Marcus Thames. I would have cut him before Colin Curtis, but that’s just me.

  18. LGY July 31st, 2010 at 4:42 pm

    Unfortunately for the Red Sox Matsuzaka is one of the players on the Red Sox not injured.

  19. 57ryank July 31st, 2010 at 4:42 pm

    I only wish they had kept Colin instead of Thames.

  20. Joe from Long Island July 31st, 2010 at 4:42 pm

    So, CHoP got chopped – (I couldn’t resist…)

    Poor guy got hurt early, then just couldn’t get it going. On another team, he probably would have stayed around.

  21. Laura - I Bleed Blue July 31st, 2010 at 4:43 pm

    BOS pick up Saltamacchia to help with their catching woes.

  22. Fondo Motz July 31st, 2010 at 4:44 pm

    BOS pick up Saltamacchia to help with their catching woes.

    Boy Wonder has checked in

  23. GreenBeret7 July 31st, 2010 at 4:44 pm

    Boston just bought a championship. They got Jarrod Saltalamaccia from Texas.

  24. Joe from Long Island July 31st, 2010 at 4:44 pm

    Red Sox got Salty the catcher, per MLBN.

  25. Rich in NJ July 31st, 2010 at 4:45 pm

    “I only wish they had kept Colin instead of Thames.”

    In a way, I do too, but Thames’s bat v. LHP is still pretty good and Curtis should get more AB.

  26. Fondo Motz July 31st, 2010 at 4:45 pm

    For those moves, we may see Theo in his gorilla suit again

  27. LGY July 31st, 2010 at 4:46 pm

    The Red Sox weren’t satisfied with having catchers who couldn’t throw the ball to 2B.

    They decided to top Martinez and Varitek and go out and get a guy who can’t even throw the ball back to the pitcher.

  28. SJ44 July 31st, 2010 at 4:46 pm

    The posts are coming fast and furious!

    What have we learned the past few days?

    We learned that Hal isn’t cheap. However, he runs the business like a business. He has smartly learned the baseball business very quickly.

    Just because you are the Yankees, it doesn’t mean you can’t have teams kick in money into deals.

    The Astros and Indians have kicked in over 6 million dollars in the Wood and Berkman deals.

    Because of that, the Yankees took on the extra payroll.

    Cash set up this precedent last year when he had the Pirates kick in 400K into the Hinske deal.

    Great job by the Yankees.

    Now, teams realize that if you take want to do a deal with the Yankees, its going to be a baseball trade like it is with everybody else. That includes kicking in money into the deals when the need arises.

  29. Andrew July 31st, 2010 at 4:46 pm

    Curtis will be on the roster in September as well as probably in 2011 if they don’t go the Randy Winn-type useless veteran for OF reserve route again.

  30. 57ryank July 31st, 2010 at 4:46 pm

    I felt all along that Aceves would not make it back this year. Backs are a miserable problem.
    ( I know first hand ) Too bad, he’s been so good for Yanks.

  31. Rich in NJ July 31st, 2010 at 4:46 pm

    Getting Saltamacchia has a chance of being a good move over time.

  32. Nick in SF July 31st, 2010 at 4:47 pm

    At least Park got to go out on a high long note… striking out Choo and then getting some bonus time as an active Yankee.

    Too bad he didn’t work out better… I still remember the wild night when the news from Korea first hit the LoHud and then other sources eventually chimed in.

    Who knows if Park will even still be in baseball next year, but I hope he can make his way back to the Bronx for a ring ceremony.

  33. Laura - I Bleed Blue July 31st, 2010 at 4:47 pm

    Heyman posted this on SI.com…

    “There is a wrinkly in the Kerry Wood-to-the-Yankees deal. The Indians can get up to another half million dollars from the Yankees if wood stays healthy, which could make it $2 million that the Yankees would pay of the $3.6 million left on Wood’s contract.”

  34. Cashmoney July 31st, 2010 at 4:47 pm

    The Braves asked the Mariners about the availability of Figgins, tweets Geoff Baker of the Seattle Times, and were denied.

    really?

  35. Joe from Long Island July 31st, 2010 at 4:47 pm

    I think Toronto is one of the losers today. They did not unload one player to a contender, and they’ve got some over there. They did nothing to help prepare for the future. Did they overprice themselves?

  36. Yogi Mantle July 31st, 2010 at 4:47 pm

    # Laura – I Bleed Blue July 31st, 2010 at 4:42 pm

    Somebody somewhere likes Marcus Thames. I would have cut him before Colin Curtis, but that’s just me.
    __________

    Little CC is just going down, not out. That is the biggest reason. Thames can hit, but if it isn’t working out well they can release Thames later and bring Curtis back up. If Curtis was kept and Thames DFA’d and it wasn’t working as they like they couldn’t bring back Thames.

    Curtis showed enough that will get more consideration at some point. He will be back when the rosters expand as well.

  37. SJ44 July 31st, 2010 at 4:48 pm

    Salty had a really bad case of the yips.

    I’ve known him since he was 10 years old. He’s a great kid.

    He’s gotten over it but, I hope going to a high pressure place like Boston doesn’t bring in on again. I wish him the best.

  38. Betsy July 31st, 2010 at 4:48 pm

    Hal is also like his dad in that he wants to win – badly. He’s a cool combination of geek and competitor – lucky us!

  39. SAS July 31st, 2010 at 4:48 pm

    Joe in L.I.

    Do you ever watch the show Chopped on Food Network???

    Bye, bye Chan Ho

  40. SJ44 July 31st, 2010 at 4:49 pm

    If Aceves gets cleared to throw to live batters, he could be back in 3 weeks.

  41. Laura - I Bleed Blue July 31st, 2010 at 4:50 pm

    BOS appears to have paid a lot for Salty according to Heyman.

  42. Betsy July 31st, 2010 at 4:50 pm

    I still don’t think Ace is coming back, but he hasn’t pitched in a long time, so putting him on the 60 day is fine as it’s retroactive.

  43. Cashmoney July 31st, 2010 at 4:51 pm

    I think Toronto is one of the losers today. They did not unload one player to a contender, and they’ve got some over there. They did nothing to help prepare for the future. Did they overprice themselves?
    ——————————————-
    i am assuming the Toronto is banking on off arb to their relievers and lights of Greggs, Frasor and Down getting multi year offer from other team, hence garnering draft picks.

    Aside from down , i can’t see anyone would give up draft picks for their mediocrity.

  44. theREALkevin July 31st, 2010 at 4:52 pm

    LOL @ thames should have gone over curtis- good one, I laughed

  45. vinny-b July 31st, 2010 at 4:52 pm

    “BOS pick up Saltamacchia to help with their catching woes.
    Boy Wonder has checked in”
    ——————————-

    lol

    let’s see. Yankees get: Berkman, Austin Kearns, Kerry Wood. And keep Jesus Montero, Austin Romine, Gary Sanchez and all their key prospects.

    Redsox get: Saltamacchia

    ok. Works for me

  46. Betsy July 31st, 2010 at 4:52 pm

    Matt V. is really a freaking clown; he just said the Yankees tramped over the other teams like countries tramping down on 3rd world nations (or something like that)

  47. Spiced Ham July 31st, 2010 at 4:52 pm

    *DANCES*

  48. Fondo Motz July 31st, 2010 at 4:52 pm

    Toronto may still be suffering the after effects of the JR Ricciardi shakedown trade tactics

  49. 57ryank July 31st, 2010 at 4:52 pm

    # SJ44 July 31st, 2010 at 4:46 pm

    The posts are coming fast and furious!

    What have we learned the past few days?

    We learned that Hal isn’t cheap. However, he runs the business like a business. He has smartly learned the baseball business very quickly.

    Just because you are the Yankees, it doesn’t mean you can’t have teams kick in money into deals.

    The Astros and Indians have kicked in over 6 million dollars in the Wood and Berkman deals.

    Because of that, the Yankees took on the extra payroll.

    Cash set up this precedent last year when he had the Pirates kick in 400K into the Hinske deal.

    Great job by the Yankees.

    Now, teams realize that if you take want to do a deal with the Yankees, its going to be a baseball trade like it is with everybody else. That includes kicking in money into the deals when the need arises.
    —————————————————————

    Been a while since that’s happened ! ( kicking in $$$)

  50. Mike92 July 31st, 2010 at 4:53 pm

    When will Wood be in uniform?

  51. vinny-b July 31st, 2010 at 4:53 pm

    “BOS appears to have paid a lot for Salty according to Heyman”
    —————————–

    lol. Boy Genius

  52. CB July 31st, 2010 at 4:53 pm

    The yankees did very well. They were very pragmatic in their approach. They diligently tried to acquire the top starter, hitter and reliever available. The Lee deal fell apart because of Jack Z. Rizzo was completely out to lunch on Adam Dunn and Anthoupoulus wasn’t remotely realistic on Downs. In addition they took a look at Haren.

    Rather than making a bad deal they held firm knowing that they were, while not perfect, still the best team in baseball. And then they went to plan B and looked to see what they could do at a reasonable cost to provide some additional marginal wins in a very tight division.

    They got arguably the second best hitter available and a significant upgrade for the outfield bench. The relief market was the worst and given the prices they took a flier on a power arm who if healthy might be able to get a few key outs.

    GM’s who approached this deadline more rigidly didn’t do their teams much good. Anthoupolus in particular. He could have picked up valuable young talent for the relievers he had to trade and instead opted to ask for blue chip prospects that no one was going to give up. Let’s see him offer Scott Downs arbitration now and have some team surrender their 1st round pick for Downs.

    These moves may only make the yanks 1-2 wins better, but in a division this close that kind of upgrade is very valuable.

  53. Laura - I Bleed Blue July 31st, 2010 at 4:54 pm

    “When will Wood be in uniform?”

    He’s still in TOR (CLE played TOR earlier today) so either late tonight or tomorrow.

  54. Cashmoney July 31st, 2010 at 4:54 pm

    Salty? aside from having the longest name, wasn’t he at one time big time prospect for ATL and TX, what has happened to him?

  55. Crash July 31st, 2010 at 4:55 pm

    Glad Park is gone he was useless. Wood is a short inning reliever. So keeping Gaudin makes sense because Gaudin can pitch multiple innings and mop up the garbarge innings.

  56. Mike92 July 31st, 2010 at 4:56 pm

    Laura

    Thanks

  57. vinny-b July 31st, 2010 at 4:56 pm

    “When will Wood be in uniform?”
    ————————————-

    don’t know. But will be purposfully be avoiding Nom@@s and River Ave Blues, in the next weeks to avoid all wood references & puns. It does get tired after a while

  58. Laura - I Bleed Blue July 31st, 2010 at 4:56 pm

    LAD made a lot of moves. I just don’t know if they help them win.

  59. ET July 31st, 2010 at 4:57 pm

    Pete Abraham

    Big day for the #RedSox so far. They dump two spare parts and get a catcher who was a good prospect two years ago 2 minutes ago

  60. tampayank July 31st, 2010 at 4:57 pm

    I think it’s always exciting on deadline day, especially if someone is out at lunch/dinner, hasn’t checked much online, arrives at the ballpark to see Berkman in the lineup

  61. ET July 31st, 2010 at 4:57 pm

    PeteAbe

    Big day for the #RedSox so far. They dump two spare parts and get a catcher who was a good prospect two years ago 2 minutes ago

  62. DaSaint007 July 31st, 2010 at 4:58 pm

    Cash and his staff have developed into one of the more astute organizations in baseball. Good baseball trades with reasonable financial expenditure for the balance of the year.

  63. vinny-b July 31st, 2010 at 4:59 pm

    “Matt V. is really a freaking clown; he just said the Yankees tramped over the other teams like countries tramping down on 3rd world nations (or something like that)”
    ————————————

    Matt V is a good announcer. And an excellent play by play man, on MLB The Show (PS3). But the time he mistook the paramedic for Donovan McNabb was kinda out there. OOOkay

  64. Laura - I Bleed Blue July 31st, 2010 at 5:00 pm

    LAD GM says that AL teams called about Manny, but LAD believes that they still need Manny so they turned them down.

  65. LGY July 31st, 2010 at 5:00 pm

    If Scott Downs is realistic with his scenario as a player and the consequences of having Type A status attached to him, I could see him accepting arbitration.

    Now that would be funny if AA didn’t trade him banking on getting draft picks.

  66. SJ44 July 31st, 2010 at 5:01 pm

    Two years ago, the Rangers were thought to have the deepest young catching corp in the game.

    Now? Benji Molina is their catcher.

    Moral of the story? Don’t get caught up too much with prospects because stuff happens.

    Taylor Teagarden can’t hit, Max Ramirez is always hurt, and Salty had a bad case of the yips.

    Its a very strange game and making it to the big leagues is very, very tough.

  67. vinny-b July 31st, 2010 at 5:01 pm

    “Big day for the #RedSox so far. They dump two spare parts and get a catcher who was a good prospect two years ago 2 minutes ago”
    —————————–

    umm, yeah. Whatever you say Peter

  68. CB July 31st, 2010 at 5:02 pm

    “Cash set up this precedent last year when he had the Pirates kick in 400K into the Hinske deal. ”

    SJ-

    Very good point. It was sort of curious when Cash did that last season as they perhaps could have gotten Hinske earlier if they hadn’t insisted on money being thrown in. But in retrospect it’s clear now that they were not only acquiring Hinske but sending a business message to the rest of the industry. They were going to normalize their business processes and start carrying expectations more in line with how other teams act.

    That’s carried over this season on a far larger financial level.

  69. vinny-b July 31st, 2010 at 5:04 pm

    “LAD GM says that AL teams called about Manny, but LAD believes that they still need Manny so they turned them down”
    ———————————–

    for what, attendance? That team is going nowhere fast

  70. dtaylor1923 July 31st, 2010 at 5:04 pm

    Sorry if someone brought this up earlier in the thread, but I just read Salty’s problems in Texas were because “He has had trouble throwing the ball back to the pitcher”. You’ve got to be kidding me.

  71. GreenBeret7 July 31st, 2010 at 5:05 pm

    SJ asks the question, “What have we learned today”?

    I would say to ignore the posts from Matthilda and Chip, unless you;re part of “The Whine Brigade”.

  72. Andrew July 31st, 2010 at 5:05 pm

    Was that a real Pete Abe tweet? If so, man talk about grasping at straws…

  73. tampayank July 31st, 2010 at 5:05 pm

    think Pete abe’s post was sarcasm

  74. Betsy July 31st, 2010 at 5:05 pm

    CB, agreed. What is up with Rizzo anyway? I don’t know what his asking price was, but he could have gotten some decent prospects…….That said, he has done a good job with that team; it has a very bright future

    AA is no better than Ricciardi; he wasted the Yankees time, the Red Sox time both this year and last. Teams are NOT stupid – they may have liked Downs, but enough to give up their top prospects? They must be rolling their eyes at AA – he’s probably getting a rep as being hard to deal with.

  75. Laura - I Bleed Blue July 31st, 2010 at 5:06 pm

    “They were going to normalize their business processes and start carrying expectations more in line with how other teams act.”

    I guess I’m surprised that the other teams bought into it. You would think that they would just keep assuming that eventually, Cash is going to give in and kick in the money. He must have convinced them that he was prepared to live without doing any deals unless the other teams paid up. And of course he could. We’re in 1st Place. Not by a lot, but still. We could have proceeded with the team we had.

  76. JobaTipsHisCap July 31st, 2010 at 5:07 pm

    Chan ho is just slightly better than igawa.

  77. Rich in NJ July 31st, 2010 at 5:07 pm

    This is really about exploiting some of the negative effects of the bad economy.

    If a team doesn’t have large revenue streams and needs to rebuild, it’s cost-effective for them to pay a few million dollars to save even more millions while reloading.

  78. JobaTipsHisCap July 31st, 2010 at 5:08 pm

    you gonna give credits to PeteAbe.
    As a Sux fan, he had worked on a Yankee blog for years, gonna suffer.

    LOL

  79. GreenBeret7 July 31st, 2010 at 5:09 pm

    vinny-b July 31st, 2010 at 4:56 pm
    “When will Wood be in uniform?”
    ————————————-

    don’t know. But will be purposfully be avoiding Nom@@s and River Ave Blues, in the next weeks to avoid all wood references & puns. It does get tired after a while

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    well, don’t go back to the subject post on the Yanks acquiring Wood, then. You won’t like it.

  80. Jeremy July 31st, 2010 at 5:09 pm

    Ryan Kalish is playing for the Sox. Gammons said this kid is the second coming of Yaz.

  81. ET July 31st, 2010 at 5:09 pm

    I don’t think Pete was kidding… he seems to like to throw bones to the Red Sox fans.

    Before their latest road trip, he talked about how Sox fans shouldn’t feel bad because the division is nowhere near over because Andy is injured and they are playing weak teams like Seattle and Oakland.

    … they went 3-4 in Seattle and Oakland, BTW.

  82. Rich in NJ July 31st, 2010 at 5:10 pm

    “Moral of the story? Don’t get caught up too much with prospects because stuff happens.”

    There’s an alternative moral: Keep as many top prospects as you can because it increases the chances that some may eventually pan out.

    The payoff of having cost-controlled high-ceiling talent is enormous, even for the deep-pocketed Yankees because it allows you to spend big bucks in other areas with the money saved.

  83. Betsy July 31st, 2010 at 5:10 pm

    Cash has a good relationship with most GMs and they know he’s a shrewd, tough guy; I’m not surprised they didn’t buy into the “don’t worry, the Yankees will cave” theory. That has not been the Yanks MO in awhile.

  84. vinny-b July 31st, 2010 at 5:10 pm

    “I guess I’m surprised that the other teams bought into it. You would think that they would just keep assuming that eventually, Cash is going to give in and kick in the money. He must have convinced them that he was prepared to live without doing any deals unless the other teams paid up. And of course he could. We’re in 1st Place. Not by a lot, but still. We could have proceeded with the team we had”
    ——————————————-

    yup. Cashman is operating from a postion of strength. World of difference from a few yrs ago

  85. Jeremy July 31st, 2010 at 5:11 pm

    Though Gammons says that about alot of Red Sox prospects.

  86. Fondo Motz July 31st, 2010 at 5:11 pm

    Give Cash a raise I say !

  87. vinny-b July 31st, 2010 at 5:13 pm

    “well, don’t go back to the subject post on the Yanks acquiring Wood, then. You won’t like it”
    —————————————

    thanks, GB. Will take the advice : )

  88. LGY July 31st, 2010 at 5:13 pm

    Cash will actually ask for a pay-cut.

  89. SJ44 July 31st, 2010 at 5:14 pm

    Teams that keep too many prospects often go nowhere.

    Look around the game. You have the same teams draft in the Top 10-15 every year, sell their fans their prospects are great, and never get anywhere.

    You try and keep your Top 5-8 guys. After that, depending on your season, everybody else is open for business.

    Doesn’t mean you trade everybody.

    However, the best franchises balance homegrown talent with trades and free agency.

    The only way to do that is to be fluid when it comes your propsects.

    The strength of the Yankees is their ability to self scout. They do it as well as anybody in the game.

    That’s why you can count on less than one hand the prospects they have traded in the last 10-12 years who have become bigtime stars in the game.

    They seem to have a very good feel as to who to keep and who to trade.

  90. MTU July 31st, 2010 at 5:14 pm

    Anybody else ready for some baseball ?

    We need to take at least 1 of the next 2 (both would be better).

    Looking forward to see what Puma can do when surrounded by so much talent. :)

  91. Fondo Motz July 31st, 2010 at 5:16 pm

    LGY – why would Cash be raising cash?

  92. ericns1 July 31st, 2010 at 5:17 pm

    I am sorry for Colin Curtis – nice guy

  93. Dylan July 31st, 2010 at 5:18 pm

    I like Thames. He has two walkoff hits for the Yankees, and he absolutely murders lefties. He can’t really do anything besides pinch hit and occasionally start at DH against tough lefties. But he does that well, and he could play LF in an emergency situation. Colin Curtis will be back eventually. Right now though, Thames can do more to help the team.

  94. joeysdadjoe July 31st, 2010 at 5:18 pm

    At first I thought Kearns-Thames was redundant but Berkman doesn’t hit lefties so Thames should DH against them.

    Kearns can spot Granderson against lefties with Gardner playing center.

  95. Rich in NJ July 31st, 2010 at 5:19 pm

    “Teams that keep too many prospects often go nowhere.”

    Well, I will I agree that you have to know which ones to keep, but there is a reason that prospects are becoming more valued in MLB, and it is because of the ability to use the savings of cost-controlled players in other areas, and because you often pay for a veteran based on what he did rather than what he will do.

    “That’s why you can count on less than one hand the prospects they have traded in the last 10-12 years who have become bigtime stars in the game.”

    That’s actually a misleading point (I’m not saying it’s intentional).

    The Yankees drafted so poorly until Cash got more power in 2006 that there wasn’t much upside to the players they drafted.

    So the next few years will be a much better test.

  96. LGY July 31st, 2010 at 5:19 pm

    “LGY – why would Cash be raising cash?”

    ——————

    Huh?

  97. Doreen July 31st, 2010 at 5:19 pm

    Rich

    Doesn’t that depend on the quality of the prospects, though? You can amass a lot of mediocre prospects and end up with nothing. Quantity doesn’t equal quantity.

    The difference maker is being able to evaluate the prospects you have – who to keep and who is expendable, and then spend the time and money to develop them. That increases your chances of having prospects who amount to something.

    But even if you develop them all to be great prospects, you can’t possibly keep them all. And trading away some to get what you need is not a misuse of the farm system.

    So far, it looks like the Yankees have lost nothing this trade season.

  98. vinny-b July 31st, 2010 at 5:20 pm

    “I am sorry for Colin Curtis – nice guy”
    ———————————-

    me too.

    but he’ll be back. Well, that….or traded to another team during the winter

  99. Fondo Motz July 31st, 2010 at 5:20 pm

    LGY – you said Cash would ask for a pay cut. Why would he?

  100. CB July 31st, 2010 at 5:20 pm

    The Yankees were able to make these deals on their terms because they exploited the fact that they are not a desperate team nor are they a team that will make petulant short term moves any longer.

    The Yankees had agreed on a trade for Lee and it fell apart. When Seattle wanted more talent they refused to play Jack Z’s game. They evaluated Haren, didn’t like the price and walked away.

    Why were they able to miss out on Lee and Haren without damaging themselves or making trades they didn’t want to?

    Because they had the foresight to trade for Javier Vazquez in the off season. Javy was obviously poor to start the season but he’s turned things around and is now giving them exactly what a good 4th/5th starter in the AL East is supposed to provide.

    So here’s a case of trading a quality prospect in Arodys Vizcaino probably saved the team from trading other even better prospects at the trade deadline for starting pitching.

    If the Yankees hadn’t given up the prospect in the off season to get Javy they would have been very short of pitching and they would have been at high risk of getting fleeced on Lee or Haren.

    If they didn’t have Javy the price for Lee would have been much higher than Montero + and the yankees may have felt compelled to pay it and with good reason. Similarly, Arizona would have wanted more than Joba for Haren and the Yanks may have felt compelled to pay the toll.

    There’s no one way to build a winner nor is there one way to balance winning now and building for the future.

  101. LGY July 31st, 2010 at 5:21 pm

    Fondo Motz,

    It is a joke from the show The Office.

  102. Keeb13r July 31st, 2010 at 5:21 pm

    I guess Park will blame his absolute laughingstock of the season on the diarrhea?

    Say it with me: he has a lot of, uh, diarrhea! Lot of, uh, diarrhea!

  103. 98NYY July 31st, 2010 at 5:21 pm

    One more move…Montero for Thames right hand hitter off the bench and Nunez for Pena…perfect!

  104. Fondo Motz July 31st, 2010 at 5:22 pm

    LGY – Ok. Thanks. Missed it.

  105. Rich in NJ July 31st, 2010 at 5:22 pm

    “The Yankees were able to make these deals on their terms because they exploited the fact that they are not a desperate team nor are they a team that will make petulant short term moves any longer.”

    If you need think teams are more apt to shed payroll in this economy, you need to reevaluate just how bad the economy is in some markets.

    Jack Z did the Yankees a tremendous favor.

  106. Rich in NJ July 31st, 2010 at 5:22 pm

    are = aren’t

  107. Eroc July 31st, 2010 at 5:22 pm

    Funny how just as the trade deadline ended, Vasgersian was concerned about how much of the WS share Randy Winn would get LOL

  108. pat July 31st, 2010 at 5:22 pm

    eboland11

    Yankees first round pick Cito Culver, currently playing in the GCL, a guest in the clubhouse

  109. Apple byte July 31st, 2010 at 5:23 pm

    The Lance Berkman deal was a mild surprise but as always, Cashman flew under the radar with the Austin Kearns and Kerry Wood deals.

  110. Betsy July 31st, 2010 at 5:23 pm

    Cash is always thinking a year or two or three ahead…………

  111. Betsy July 31st, 2010 at 5:23 pm

    aww, what a cool experience for Culver

  112. Rich in NJ July 31st, 2010 at 5:24 pm

    Doreen

    I said (typed) “top prospects.”

    So we agree.

  113. LGY July 31st, 2010 at 5:24 pm

    Fondo,

    No problem. Didn’t expect many people to get the reference anyway :)

  114. Frozen Rope July 31st, 2010 at 5:24 pm

    YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    No more Chan Ho!

  115. vinny-b July 31st, 2010 at 5:25 pm

    “The Yankees were able to make these deals on their terms because they exploited the fact that they are not a desperate team nor are they a team that will make petulant short term moves any longer.
    The Yankees had agreed on a trade for Lee and it fell apart. When Seattle wanted more talent they refused to play Jack Z’s game. They evaluated Haren, didn’t like the price and walked away.
    Why were they able to miss out on Lee and Haren without damaging themselves or making trades they didn’t want to?
    Because they had the foresight to trade for Javier Vazquez in the off season. Javy was obviously poor to start the season but he’s turned things around and is now giving them exactly what a good 4th/5th starter in the AL East is supposed to provide.
    So here’s a case of trading a quality prospect in Arodys Vizcaino probably saved the team from trading other even better prospects at the trade deadline for starting pitching.
    If the Yankees hadn’t given up the prospect in the off season to get Javy they would have been very short of pitching and they would have been at high risk of getting fleeced on Lee or Haren.
    If they didn’t have Javy the price for Lee would have been much higher than Montero + and the yankees may have felt compelled to pay it and with good reason. Similarly, Arizona would have wanted more than Joba for Haren and the Yanks may have felt compelled to pay the toll”
    ———————————————-

    CB: who was the poster, that got so bent out of shape, when Vizcaino was traded? You should email him this.

    excellent post, by the way

  116. Rich in NJ July 31st, 2010 at 5:25 pm

    “If you need think teams are more apt to shed payroll in this economy, you need to reevaluate just how bad the economy is in some markets.”

    I butchered that sentence:

    If you don’t think that teams are more apt to…….

    I can’t TM and type responses at the same time. My bad.

  117. DaSaint007 July 31st, 2010 at 5:26 pm

    I have to completely agree with SJ. Yanks are keeping their chips for when they’re needed. Losing Montero would have hurt, but not if it was for Lee, whom we have an excellent chance of signing anyway, but who would have strengthened the rotation for the stretch run.

    Does anyone think that Pena will remain the utility infielder, or is a waiver move possible?

  118. Laura - I Bleed Blue July 31st, 2010 at 5:26 pm

    “Right now though, Thames can do more to help the team.”

    As long as he doesn’t play the field. :P

  119. GreenBeret7 July 31st, 2010 at 5:26 pm

    vinny-b July 31st, 2010 at 5:13 pm
    “well, don’t go back to the subject post on the Yanks acquiring Wood, then. You won’t like it”
    —————————————

    thanks, GB. Will take the advice : )

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    I’m embarras sed to admit that I contributed the first on, Vinny. Peek at your own peril.

  120. SJ44 July 31st, 2010 at 5:26 pm

    Rich,

    Clubs are valuing prospects more than ever now for one big reason…..their owners are cheap.

    Its a nearly 9 BILLION dollar industry now. Everybody is making money.

    Some clearly are making more than others.

    However, when the Marlins are clearing a nearly 30 million dollar profit annually, have 650 million dollars in public money going toward building a ballpark, and act as if they are broke (the Commissioners Office actually told them they HAD to spend more money on payroll), its more than teams looking for cost controlled bargains.

    Its not a coincidence the Twins now have a 100 million dollar payroll.

    Its a very, very profitable industry right now.

    Aside from Oakland, Tampa, Cleveland, and maybe 1 or 2 other franchises, teams could take on more payroll if they so choose. They don’t because owners want to maximize their profits.

    There is nothing wrong with that.

    However, when folks like Mark Attanisio whine about the Yankees, knowing he could take on another 20 million in payroll and still have a nice, profitable team, its hypocrisy.

    For my money, all I want the Yankees to do is make good baseball decisions. If that involves trading prospects because it makes the parent club better? So be it.

    If it involves going over slot for a draft pick or paying Gary Sanchez 3 million bucks because they feel he is the best IFA, so be it.

    If it means giving Cliff Lee a blank check and telling him to fill in the numbers, that’s fine too.

    As long as they play by the rules, and they do, I hope they maximize every advantage they have over everybody else because too many of these owners are lining their pockets with Yankee Money and putting nothing back into their own franchises.

  121. pat July 31st, 2010 at 5:26 pm

    eboland11

    Chan Ho Park went to ARod to get a signed jersey on his way out the door

  122. Apple byte July 31st, 2010 at 5:27 pm

    What P.Abe failed to say …………………………….

    Saltalamacchia was optioned to Triple-A. He has played in just two games for the Rangers this season, going 1-for-5. Hilarious.

  123. vinny-b July 31st, 2010 at 5:28 pm

    “I’m embarrased to admit that I contributed the first on, Vinny. Peek at your own peril”
    ————————

    lol

  124. G. Love July 31st, 2010 at 5:28 pm

    vinny b,

    Same poster who scolded all of us who thought Bret Gardner could be a good everyday player and should get a chance.

    He also swore Melky’s sweet developing swing was good for 25-30 HR’s this year in Atlanta and we’d rue the day we traded him too.

    The minute Gardner started hitting and holding down the LF job, that poster disappeared.

  125. pat July 31st, 2010 at 5:29 pm

    PeteAbe I was being sarcastic about it being a big day for the #RedSox Obviously it’s not.

  126. CB July 31st, 2010 at 5:29 pm

    “If you need think teams are more apt to shed payroll in this economy, you need to reevaluate just how bad the economy is in some markets.”

    Only you have the deep understanding of the impact of the financial crisis has had on the economy and baseball.

    You’re right. Profound point. I didn’t see that at all.

  127. 98NYY July 31st, 2010 at 5:30 pm

    Key trading piece of Jack Z trade was just sent down…I saw him stike out three times at his debut…great to still have Montero in the future fold…

  128. igotid88 July 31st, 2010 at 5:30 pm

    NOoooooooooooooooooooooooo why? why? why?

  129. pat July 31st, 2010 at 5:30 pm

    Ledger_Yankees Cool fact: Berkman’s a switch-hitter because his dad’s a huge Mickey Mantle fan.

  130. Captain Clutch July 31st, 2010 at 5:31 pm

    “Chan Ho Park went to ARod to get a signed jersey on his way out the door”
    —————-

    I would look for that jersey on ebay…Park looking to make some extra $ lol

  131. tbuc15 July 31st, 2010 at 5:32 pm

    Christmas came early this year!

  132. Eroc July 31st, 2010 at 5:33 pm

    Guarantee Park will go back to the Phillies

  133. pat July 31st, 2010 at 5:33 pm

    Ledger_Yankees Kearns talked about seeing Sabathia in a showcase when they were 18 years old. CC was in the HR derby.

  134. Fran the original July 31st, 2010 at 5:34 pm

    I have been out all day and just catching up. Good moves by Cashman. All low risk and hopefully high reward. And he did not give up very much at all.

    The bench and bullpen are important in a playoff series. The Yankees strengthened the bench today.

  135. kd July 31st, 2010 at 5:34 pm

    park will replace ramon ramirez in the red sox pullpen

  136. Betsy July 31st, 2010 at 5:34 pm

    Pat, that is cool…………his dad must be pretty thrilled right now.

  137. Rich in NJ July 31st, 2010 at 5:35 pm

    SJ

    Being cheap in this economy is a pretty smart way to go, even for very rich people.

    Jeffrey Loria has been ordered by MLB to spend more of his revenue sharing money, right? He’s really as bad as it gets.

    Yes, Mark Attanisio conveniently overlooks accrual of equity in his analysis.

    OTOH, there is a reason that Cash and Theo have placed a greater emphasis on player development in recent years, and they have cited the reasons I mentioned above:

    1) It allows you to have more money for the big ticket acquisitions.
    2) You often pay veterans for what they did in the past rather than what they will do in the future.

    I like that the Yankees spend big bucks, but I also like watching guys from the time they were drafted until they flourish in MLB.

    To me, that’s more fun than rooting for a rotisserie team of other teams’ players, and as I have outlined, there are sound baseball reasons to follow that path as well.

  138. PittsburghYankeeFan July 31st, 2010 at 5:36 pm

    Chan Ho got the heave ho. I agree that the Phillies are where he may go.

    Yankees did acquire a Wood. Let’s hope he has staying power.

    OK, the wood references will stop now.

  139. Rich in NJ July 31st, 2010 at 5:36 pm

    “Only you have the deep understanding of the impact of the financial crisis has had on the economy and baseball.

    You’re right. Profound point. I didn’t see that at all.”

    You seemed to totally dismiss it.

    Nice attitude, btw.

  140. Latroy Farnsworth July 31st, 2010 at 5:39 pm

    Sing it with me now: CELEBRATE GOOD TIMES CMON!!! Good riddance Chan Ho

  141. Yankee Trader July 31st, 2010 at 5:40 pm

    Chad Tracy exercised his opt out clause and is a FA now.

  142. Rich in NJ July 31st, 2010 at 5:40 pm

    Gotta get dinner. Enjoy the game.

  143. X July 31st, 2010 at 5:42 pm

    wooooo CHan Hoooo is Gooooone !

    Now get rid of Gaudin and we set.

  144. DaSaint007 July 31st, 2010 at 5:43 pm

    I’d try to get Wilson Betemit back from KC as my utility infielder for the stretch.

  145. CB July 31st, 2010 at 5:43 pm

    Rich-

    It’s really not an accident that so many people find your posts at times to be extremely rude. Regarding “attitude” when posting you might want to look into that mirror a bit harder.

  146. pat July 31st, 2010 at 5:45 pm

    BloggingBombers

    Cashman: “In the last 72 hours, things got pretty hot. … Hopefully those players, with their new teammates, will have a positive impact.”

  147. DaSaint007 July 31st, 2010 at 5:46 pm

    For the record, I’m ok with Pena, as I think he’s fine defensively, and has had some key hits. An upgrade may not be needed now that the DH slot has been solidified, thereby allowing some weakness in the lineup when he’s in there, but adding Betemit would do the following:

    Add a versitile infielder who also has a pretty good arm.
    Adds another switch hitter.
    Adds someone who’s been hitting well for the season.
    Is cost effective, with no long term contractual obligations.
    And he kinda knows his way around here already.

  148. Doreen July 31st, 2010 at 5:47 pm

    Rich -

    I missed your adjective (“top” prospects). Trying to read fast.

    :)

  149. Chip July 31st, 2010 at 5:48 pm

    Asked about not getting Lee, “end of the day I’ll sleep better not having traded Jesus Montero.”

  150. Chip July 31st, 2010 at 5:49 pm

    Sorry…that quote was Cashman on WFAN

  151. Jerkface July 31st, 2010 at 5:50 pm

    Asked about not getting Lee, “end of the day I’ll sleep better not having traded Jesus Montero.”

    Did he really say that?

  152. SJ44 July 31st, 2010 at 5:51 pm

    Rich,

    The economy though isn’t affecting baseball in most markets. Its still a nearly 9 billion dollar industry. In fact, baseball has been least affected of the “Big 4″ sports leagues during the recession. Mainly thanks to MLB.com and the MLB Network, which are enormous cash cows for the industry right now.

    Teams are going for more money than ever on the open market.

    The Rangers didn’t go bankrupt because of their baseball operations. They went bankrupt because Tom Hicks bought too many radio stations and destroyed his non-baseball business model.

    Same with Sam Ziff when he had to unload the Cubs because he ran the Tribune Corp. into the ground.

    Most of these teams make a lot of money. As much as the Yankees? No.

    However, if you look at overall % of revenues derived by teams and see how much of it goes toward salaries, the Yankees are always in the middle of the pack in that area. Rarely #1.

    If more teams put 30-35% of their revenues into payroll and player development, as the Yankees annually do, give or take 1-3%, you would have more teams keeping their own players and being competitive each year.

    Its one thing to enjoy watching homegrown talent flourish. I can understand that POV.

    Its another to sell it to fans as a sustainable business model when that alone is not the way to succeed in the baseball industry and never will be.

    Its all about balancing homegrown development with trades and free agency. Without that balance, regardless of market size, its hard to build a sustainable winning baseball team.

  153. Chip July 31st, 2010 at 5:53 pm

    Anttanasio can whine all he wants…Yankee payroll is not to blame for his GM’s bad signings like Suppan, Hoffman or Wolf.

  154. Nick in SF July 31st, 2010 at 5:53 pm

    Added Cashman: “I thought regestration would get rid of the trolls on LoHud, but it hasn’t.”

  155. Nick in SF July 31st, 2010 at 5:54 pm

    “…registration…”

  156. Chip July 31st, 2010 at 5:55 pm

    Jerkface – he did.

    It was more a shot at the level of players Seattle got for Lee. He felt in light of that Montero would’ve been an overpay

  157. Chip July 31st, 2010 at 5:57 pm

    SJ – looks like we were wrong about Berkman in the 6 spot.
    With the team not improving over Pena (to this point) do you think Nunez gets a callup

  158. Jeremy July 31st, 2010 at 5:58 pm

    The Tigers who have a terrible road record with a Triple A lineup might actually win a series against the Red Sox at home. Didn’t see that coming.

  159. kd July 31st, 2010 at 6:00 pm

    with berkman hitting second, the yankees have a serious chance of having the first four in their order with above a 375 on base percentage from here on in.

    has that ever been done?

  160. Captain Clutch July 31st, 2010 at 6:01 pm

    Asked about not getting Lee, “end of the day I’ll sleep better not having traded Jesus Montero.”
    —————–

    Me too lol

  161. vinny-b July 31st, 2010 at 6:02 pm

    G Love:

    ah yes. Thanks. A kinder and gentler poster. ‘Bohemiann’ somethin rather..

  162. The First Place Rays July 31st, 2010 at 6:04 pm

    with berkman hitting second, the yankees have a serious chance of having the first four in their order with above a 375 on base percentage from here on in.

    —————–

    Doesn’t matter. garza still shutting them down as easy as 1, 2, 3, 4.

  163. CB July 31st, 2010 at 6:04 pm

    Jeffrey Loria has received more money from revenue sharing then he spent to purchase the Marlins in the first place.

    Think about that. Loria essentially bought a major league baseball team for free.

    The Florida economy is dying. It’s one of the hardest hit in the U.S. as so much of Florida is tied to the worth of real estate and to tourism.

    And despite that, the Marlins had the highest operating margins in all of baseball last year.

    The economy of the baseball industry is very different than the overall U.S. economy.

  164. SJ44 July 31st, 2010 at 6:04 pm

    I don’t think so Chip.

    At this point, I think they value Pena’s D.

    If they didn’t add two bats, I could see them calling up Nunez.

    Right now though, I think they keep Pena here for his D because they believe they have enough offense in the lineup right now.

  165. SJ44 July 31st, 2010 at 6:08 pm

    Not only that CB, he got the City of Miami, and Dade County to give him over $650 million in public money to build a new stadium.

    Despite all that, he goes to arbitration with a good guy like Cody Ross over less than 300K.

    What a joke of an owner he is.

  166. SJ44 July 31st, 2010 at 6:09 pm

    Typo, Less than 700K from what they were close to agreeing to on a deal prior to the arbitration deadline.

    Sorry for the typo.

  167. Laura - I Bleed Blue July 31st, 2010 at 6:09 pm

    River Ave Blues had a link to a Park interview that I apparently missed. It’s the one where he’s discussing an intestinal problem he was having earlier in the season. There was someone in the background laughing hysterically. Would love to know who that was.

  168. GreenBeret7 July 31st, 2010 at 6:12 pm

    With all of the talk about the trades today, one deal that’s getting overlooked was the deal Cashman made to sign Mosely this spring. Even if he only has that one win, he’s had two others that he saved the bullpen. For the money (relatively speaking) he’s paid off.

  169. Chip July 31st, 2010 at 6:12 pm

    Loria is a prime example of why I hate Selig. Bud allowed Loria to run the Expos into the ground following the strike, and then actively helped him become the owner of the Marlins when John Henry left to buy the sox (at a far below market value)

  170. syd_cash July 31st, 2010 at 6:13 pm

    Not sad at all to see Park go. Like the Wood move, gives us an extra arm. He has been inconsistent though…so hopefully he pans out. But he can’t possibly be worse then Park

  171. CR9 July 31st, 2010 at 6:14 pm

    And here in this Tigers – Sox game, it’s all about the Sox once again. No credit being given to Scherzer for pitching a good game. It’s all bad luck and double plays that have taken the Sox out of the game to this point. But of course, not anything to do with Scherzer’s pitching.

  172. Fondo Motz July 31st, 2010 at 6:14 pm

    Excelllent point on Mosely. Cash has his eye on all available pitchers. He has done a great job picking up genuine talent when available. Our minor league teams are the better for it, and of course, we can call them up when needed.

  173. Erin July 31st, 2010 at 6:16 pm

    Ledger_Yankees Not a million years did Berkman think he’d ever be a New Yorker. “Now that it has happened, it feels good,” he said.

  174. Erin July 31st, 2010 at 6:17 pm

    “Chan Ho Park went to ARod to get a signed jersey on his way out the door”

    ****************************
    awwww….I have to admit, I do feel a little bad for the guy.

    But I’m not surprised at all-this was a long time coming.

  175. Laura - I Bleed Blue July 31st, 2010 at 6:19 pm

    From the Daily News Sports Page…..

    “Nick Johnson has shown tremendous progress during his recent workouts, and he could begin taking full batting practice early next week. If things continue to improve, Johnson could play in minor-league games within two weeks. ”

    It will be interesting to see if he makes it back and what happens to the lineup when he does.

  176. Betsy July 31st, 2010 at 6:19 pm

    I love when the new guys always seem genuinely excited about being here……….

  177. stuart a July 31st, 2010 at 6:20 pm

    chad gaudin still is on this team. simply a head shaker.

    the guy SUCKS…no way he is better then Park….

    does he have pictures of girardi doing something bad??????????

  178. Laura - I Bleed Blue July 31st, 2010 at 6:20 pm

    “Ledger_Yankees Not a million years did Berkman think he’d ever be a New Yorker. “Now that it has happened, it feels good,” he said.”

    So does this mean that he DOES want his 2011 option picked up? :P

  179. Fondo Motz July 31st, 2010 at 6:20 pm

    The fact that the Yankees made these moves should tell you all that you need to know about Nick Johnson this season

  180. Chip July 31st, 2010 at 6:20 pm

    I have high hopes for Kerry Wood; but realistically I’m not expecting that much of an upgrade from Park

  181. Fondo Motz July 31st, 2010 at 6:20 pm

    Let alone give thought to putting him on a post season roster

  182. GreenBeret7 July 31st, 2010 at 6:21 pm

    I was one of many that either panned the Mosely deal or ignored it all together. Obviously, these guys see something that others don’t quite often. I never thought much of Mosely, but, through a tough stretch of being short a starter and some short starts with an overworked pen, he’s done very well, so far.

  183. Dan in Philly July 31st, 2010 at 6:21 pm

    Buster_ESPN

    Heard this: The Red Sox finished second in the trade talks for Kerry Wood, the Rays finished second in the Lance Berkman talks.

    Beat the sox again, woohoo!

  184. Tyler July 31st, 2010 at 6:21 pm

    My brother texted Max this morning telling him to go out and dominant in Fenway tonight. Hopefully he brings his good stuff. He can be dominant on any given night.

  185. CB July 31st, 2010 at 6:21 pm

    SJ-

    Very true about that stadium. What a horrible deal that is for the folks in Florida.

    Loria has made out like a bandit all thanks to MLB’s leadership in handing that franchise over to him in the first place.

    In what was the worst financial year in the U.S. since the Great Depression the Marlins profits rose 19% over the year prior.

    In 2009 only 2 reams were in the red – the Tigers and the D’Backs and the D’Backs lost only 600K. And that’s only on net operations. These clubs have so many other ways of accounting for cash flow streams who know what they make.

    And that’s outside of the ridiculous concessions they are able to extract like Loria’s new stadium deal which only massively increase the equity the owners have over time.

    Again, 2009 was perhaps the worst year the country has had financially since the Great Depression. And during that time Baseball revenues increased 5.5% with an increase in operating income of 1.8% to a record 500M.

  186. Tyler July 31st, 2010 at 6:23 pm

    Wow disregard my last post. I had no idea it was an afternoon game. Nice Job Scherz! He’s been solid since being called back up. I would have loved to have also got him in the Grandy trade.

  187. Erin July 31st, 2010 at 6:24 pm

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    :arrow:

  188. stuart a July 31st, 2010 at 6:26 pm

    andrew lambro(I think spelling)traded to the pirates from the dodgers for Dotel. THis kid went to Newbury Park High in SO cal. Great hitter. If he did not have off the field issues he may be a very very good player.

    Watch for it………

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