I liked Axisa’s answer on Cano vs Pedroia but I’m not sure its even as close as he makes it out anymore.
Cano has vastly improved his defense over the last couple years and while Pedroia has been the better defender over their careers I’m not sure he is better anymore. Cano can make plays that other 2nd basemen just can’t because of his arm strength and the concentration issues seem to be a thing of the past. Also Cano’s upside as a hitter is much higher than Pedroia’s because of his power and that’s starting to show. Injury risk also has to factor in as well. Last year, I would have said they are even or maybe even give a slight nod toward Pedroia….going forward I think Cano is the better player by a good bit. Right now I think Utley is Cano’s only peer at 2B and that may not even be true pretty soon.
Did anyone see the blown call in the Marlins-Phillies game last night that cost the Marlins a walk-off win? I just read about it but didn’t see a replay. Sounds like another terrible call by the third-base umpire.
Lets think how huge that Vasquez trade may turn out to be. Not only has Javy been really solid since the first month, now another guy they got in that trade (Boone Logan) is really emerging as a viable bullpen option. Melky has been awful in Atlanta, Gardner has been great in NY…..not bad…
Expecting a lot from you guys today, especially Chad, since you’re in Cano’s usual spot in the lineup!
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I saw the replay and the discussion. The ball bounced fair some 15 feet in front of the bag, the umpire thought it crossed the bag foul, but he wasn’t in position to see the ball bounce fair some 10 feet behind the bag. Another reason for using an official[not another ump] up in the TV booth to relay the correct call down to the lead umpire.
Mike Dunn also keeps walking people in Atlanta’s bullpen, I think his WHIP is around 2 (even if it’s a small sample size). It’s funny they exchanged a power-throwing lefty with horrible control (Dunn) for a power-throwing lefty with better control and are reaping the benefits now, thanks to Logan actually finding the zone consistently.
I didn’t read any of this Cano vs Pedroia stuff, but I suspect Cano will lead the Yankees to several championships, while Pedroia will end up with his one solitary ring (which he will probably end up carrying to the heart of Mount Doom and throwing into its fiery cauldron).
Advantage: Robbie.
What a nasty rumor. He must have meant the Yankees have interest in Carlos “the good” Guillen and not Jose.
Having acquired Lance Berkman and Austin Kearns this past weekend it would appear the Yankees wouldn’t have room for Jose Guillen.
Nevertheless, the Yankees aren’t shutting the door on acquiring the much-traveled 34-year-old outfielder who was designated for assignment yesterday by the Royals. They have 10 days to deal Guillen or release him.
Two weeks ago a Yankees official said there was no interest in Guillen, who told teammates at Yankee Stadium that he was close to becoming a Yankee. Now, the Yankees will track Guillen, who is expected to clear waivers since he is owed roughly $3.9 million for the remainder of this season.
What are you talking about? He’s batting .267 2 points below his career average and any Yankee fan knows that Melky’s worth to a team cannot be judged by his numbers alone. He’s help resuscitate a franchise on life support to a leading contender for the national league pennant.
Ah SJ44, stubborn as Tonya Harding when she refused to admit she was wrong. I wrote one last post before, and I’m done arguing with you. It’s like talking to a brick wall.
Yea that call in the Marlins game was terrible. You can sometimes excuse human error in making the wrong call. What you can’t excuse is if the umpire is in the wrong position or in this case looking in the wrong place. They outlined what happened last night on MLB tonight. The ump gave up on the play before it hit the ground and assumed it was going foul….The human error part is going to happen….but the out of position and “mental mistakes” by the umpires happen far too often these days.
The clip of Bob Davidson is completely cringe-worthy and is just an indictment of a guy who I loathe and dread when he’s assigned to Yankees games. He is like the antithesis of Jim Joyce, who at least seems like a decent guy in-game (not like Davidson who always shows up managers + players who disagree with him on calls and is great for an ejection or more in his games/series), and seems completely incapable of showing some humility/self-criticism when it’s clear he got the call wrong.
Joyce is a great example for other umps when dealing with awful calls, but the key would be to remove the effect their poor decision-making has on games. But then again, Bud Selig is still in charge so replay will stay just a sham for the rest of the season I assume.
I can deal with the mistakes, but the obstinance is troubling. Why not get some help on a play like that? Then to stand by the call in the face of indisputable evidence. That’s really weak.
Ah SJ44, stubborn as Tonya Harding when she refused to admit she was wrong. I wrote one last post before, and I’m done arguing with you. It’s like talking to a brick wall.
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Ya wouldn’t really bother…there are a lot of people like that here….”experts” on baseball. Good news and some nice people on here…but most of them just wait for SJ and GB to say something and then agree.
There was some discussion of Bob Ryan’s story today about the yankees. Forget “team check-book.” Here was the best part of the column:
One guy you can’t mess with is second baseman Robinson Cano, who, a late dip notwithstanding (1 for 14 this month), has had an MVP-type season. No one would dare argue the premise that he has been New York’s best player. A switch-hitting second baseman with an impressive .945 OPS who can also flash some fancy leather — what’s not to like?
I would personally go as far as saying that Robinson Cano is the best switch hitter the yankees have had since the Mick.
And that’s why Bob Ryan’s opinion matters – it’s his expertise. Because he’s willing to go that extra mile to do the hard work needed to figure out what everyone else has missed all these years – cano’s switch hitting.
Wow… pretty surprising stat from that Ryan article:
Given all that’s been going on with the Red Sox, however, wouldn’t you think the Yankees would have had a much better record than the Bostonians since the two last met on May 18? Well, they haven’t. Since last they met, the Yankees have gone 42-26. The Red Sox have gone 42-27.
Erin August 6th, 2010 at 10:38 am
RiverAveBlues The Wall Street Journal thinks Jeter will get hit No. 3000 on Monday, June 6, 2011. Mark your calendars.
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Kind of make it impossible to imagine him doing that with some other team
Cano might as well be a switch hitter then way he hits lefties but still a pretty lazy effort by Ryan. The Yanks get credit for a lot of switch hitters it seems…a guy on MLBnetwork the other night thought Montero was one as well.
blake did you think Melky was good last year? Most people do not consider him a very good player. I think of him as a very effective role player that has a knack for contributing key plays to winning games that mostly go unnoticed and do not show up in the box score. The player that comes to the plate willing to give himself up to move a runner is more important in a big game against a superior pitcher a lot of times than a superstar hitter.
Wow – you learn something new everyday. How has it escaped me that Cano is a switch-hitter????
Eroc -
That is a surprising stat, but I think losing Youkilis will be the thing they can’t overcome. I think he is their best player.
Leaving Disneyland today for our drive up the Cali coast. We saw the World of Color last night. It was really a beautiful show.
GB7 -
I saw you posted last night about the Dodgers’ catcher Martin. We were there Tuesday night and saw the play at the plate. We were sitting near 3 guys (I would say older guys, but I think they were my age or around that), and they and my husband (along with just about everyone within earshot) bemoaned the fact that Martin should have slid into home. At the time it would have just meant he would have scored, but my husband noticed the play ended up awkwardly and was not surprised at all that he was injured. So the bad decision (no slide) cost him a run AND his season, and possibly his career. Wow. That’s a real shame. It’s also amazing that he, has he said “manned up” (eye roll) to catch the rest of the game. Gotta question that decision, too.
Wow… pretty surprising stat from that Ryan article:
Given all that’s been going on with the Red Sox, however, wouldn’t you think the Yankees would have had a much better record than the Bostonians since the two last met on May 18? Well, they haven’t. Since last they met, the Yankees have gone 42-26. The Red Sox have gone 42-27.
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it’s not surprising, it is lazy and irrelevant. the season starts on april 1st, not may 18th
Chad, I am impressed that you are batting in Cano’s spot. We expect the best of you and Sam. Take it to the Boston writers for all of us. Best to both you and Sam.
Doreen, that was as ugly an ending that I’ve seen in years. About as bad as Robin Ventura and Bill Buckner. If Martin plays next year, I’d be shocked. It’s almost certain that it won;t be as a catcher. Talk about bad luck..after trading one of the top young catchers in baseball for a 36 year old journeyman 3rd baseman. Shades of the late 80s Yankees. How about trading Romine for Broxton (before they destroy his arm)?
I think you just answered your own question. He’s a role player/4th outfielder that’s about to reach arbitration. He’s not been good this year in Atlanta and they would likely love to make a move to be able to play him less.
“it’s not surprising, it is lazy and irrelevant. the season starts on april 1st, not may 18th”
True. Ryan could have gone back a month further. Since 4/19 the Yankees are 58-37 and Boston is 58-38. Can’t ignore those 1st two weeks though, when the Yankees jumped off at 9-3 while Boston stumbled out at 4-9.
If we can get our pitching on a roll we will be tough to beat.
I believe arod & jeter will get better towards the end.
I wan’t to see how hughes pitches over his next few starts to see if he is on to something.
Pettitte wil be back & if burnett can get on track i like our chances especially if ace comes back.
“DH Nick Johnson(notes) (inflamed tendon in right wrist) went on the 15-day disabled list May 8, and he was transferred to the 60-day DL on May 20. He underwent surgery May 18. He took his first swings of soft toss on July 27, and made vast improvements during his recent workouts by July 30, putting him in position to return to the Yankees before the end of the season. Johnson could play in minor league rehab games by mid-August”.
Here’s a story about the Marlins-Phils game, including video of blown call and some great quotes from Davidson in which he basically says, “I’m right in spite of all evidence to the contrary.”
Kansas City ace Zack Greinke didn’t seem as caught up in “raves from outside the organization” relating to the Royals farm as the franchise might be on the whole. “The biggest problem is I have two more years on my contract. Are those guys supposed to make it up by the beginning of next year?” Tell him, yes, some are projected to reach the majors next year, and Greinke just shakes his head. … “It’s been six years with me, and most people (who are Royals fans) have been through a lot more than I have. But for me, it’s the third complete re-start/rebuilding phase.” Would he be happier elsewhere? “I like Kansas City,” Greinke said. “It’s a town that fits me pretty well. But I don’t know … at least put a team together that has a fighting chance (to win).”
# pat August 6th, 2010 at 10:29 am
Icebird
You lose credibility points when there are myriads of choices to go with and you go with a figure skating reference.
Not only is that sexist, but its pretty rude too. Figure skating is a sport as well, man, just like baseball. I hope you were kidding, then I could say LOL
All of this Melky bashing is very shocking to the system. Certainly all of the caterwauling was mute during his clutch walk off hits last year? He was a part of the energy that was brought back to the former tired corporate Yankee club house. We all need to bow our heads with respect to the memory of Melky Cabrerra as a NYY. Amen brother and may you go on to hit close to .300 in Hotlanta!
Not Melky bashing. Let me clarify. I like Melky and think he did some good things for the Yankees last year and was a contributor to their championship. That said, you don’t hesitate to trade him in the deal the Yankees made and he has regressed outside the protection of the Yankee lineup. Plus trading him allowed Gardner to emerge. He’s not hitting .300 and could very well be a bench player next season.
I haven’t seen the play, but Jason Smith was disturbed by it. Went on about it. The thing that bothered him is that he refused to ask for help on the play (archaic practice, even the NBA gets it right-there’s no protocol in overriding another official). But the worst thing was his comments after the game even after watching the replay.
Thanks for that great article, pat. Well worth the read. Some day, they might actually figure out a near exact equation for the number of homers that a player had with the help of PEDs. Something else that causes the home run spikes is the overall poor pitching. Every era has their share of stud pitchers, but, it’s the 2nd tier that’s gotten worse and the dependence on below average bullpens. Again, thank you for the article. I remain an 5%-10% boost is the most that it would help, and those percentages are most likely on the high side.
I was a Javy hater when we first picked him up. He has progressed and done well for a fifth starter, but I wouldn’t put him in a pressure packed playoff situation where he could implode ala 2004. Let him keep Cliff Lees spot in the rotation nice and warm.
that robbie vs pedrioa post was hilarious. perfect way to start the day.
switch hitting robbie cano, man the things we miss out on! if only we paid enough attention on this blog to notice that. what an expert bob ryan is!
but as we all know, there are 15 position players in the red sox system that are more talented than arod and will have better careers that jeter and mo.
icebird753 August 6th, 2010 at 11:18 am
# pat August 6th, 2010 at 10:29 am
Icebird
You lose credibility points when there are myriads of choices to go with and you go with a figure skating reference.
Not only is that sexist, but its pretty rude too. Figure skating is a sport as well, man, just like baseball. I hope you were kidding, then I could say LOL
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Nothing rude in what pat said. Honest opinion, yes. You’re hardly in a position to be calling somebody rude.
I think its funny how a relief appearance 6 years ago means Javy would automatically implode if given a playoff start. Playoffs start today….he’s one of the four I’m going with.
What are you talking about? He’s batting .267 2 points below his career average and any Yankee fan knows that Melky’s worth to a team cannot be judged by his numbers alone. He’s help resuscitate a franchise on life support to a leading contender for the national league pennant.
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How do you translate Melky’s numbers into leading his team to a National League pennant? Compare his numbers to Gardner’s, then you’ll see why he was traded.
I know that was one relief appearance but once bitten twice…..
Too bad about Kevin Yuke, now Pig Slapi is going to have to step up. Without that warrior in the line up, it’s going to be death by a 1000 cuts for the Sux.
The at the end of the statement means it was said in jest. I’ve heard of stubborn as a mule, stubborn as sisyphus but had never heard of stubborn as Tonya Harding.
I’m female and if you said stubborn as Brian Boitano I would have thought the same thing so nothing sexist about it.
What are you talking about? He’s batting .267 2 points below his career average and any Yankee fan knows that Melky’s worth to a team cannot be judged by his numbers alone. He’s help resuscitate a franchise on life support to a leading contender for the national league pennant.
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How do you translate Melky’s numbers into leading his team to a National League pennant? Compare his numbers to Gardner’s, then you’ll see why he was traded.
The original post by Chad said "When rounded — like it will be in every statistical listing ever — Mariano Rivera now has a 1.00 career WHIP."
That is really an amazing stat! But, I want to add to it that the career WHIP is actually below 1.000. I think that's how I would emphasize it.
Also, in some ways even more incredible, is the fact that Mo's WHIP has been under 1.00 the last 3 years in a row, and 4 of the last 5… Seems like Mo ages like a fine wine.
Finally, his number of saves this year is "off" just a little bit. But that's not his fault. There just have not been enough save opportunities. Lots of the Yankees wins are by 4 or more runs.
Yesterday I mentioned how the Yanks signed their 30th rd pick for 265k. They just signed their 6th rounder for 300k. So the money they gave the 30th rounder tells you what they think of his potential.
Both pitchers have legit upside. The Yanks just continue to stockpile arms. Right now they have legit arms at every level of the farm. Good times.
@Pat, ok, just making sure, no offense taken and sorry to see it that way. And GB7, uh, ok, you are ALWAYS correct, and I am therefore a rude, foolish troll. I just don’t like to see comments that can be viewed in a sexist manner. But I’ll leave that stuff to the almighty GB7 and SJ44, the only non-paid experts on this blog. Ppl like me are rude and don’t know a lick, and I apologize for not being as wise as you.
A little bit more on Encinas (BTW, he won’t be 19 until December and he’s a Yankees fan)….
Bronx Baseball Daily had this blurb from Baseball America on draft day: Between showcase events last summer and fall and the spring season, Encinas boosted his stock significantly by improving his conditioning and mechanics. At 6-foot-4 and 200 pounds, he now looks the part of the classic lanky and projectable high school righthander. His stuff didn’t significantly improve, but he can maintain it deep into starts now. Encinas delivers a fastball that sits comfortably in the 90-92 mph range, and he shows a nice feel for mixing in a crisp curveball and changeup, which is probably the best changeup among Southern California prepsters. With smooth mechanics and an advanced feel for pitching, Encinas does an excellent job of mixing pitches, speeds and locations, and altering pitch sequences from at-bat at-bat. The large flock of scouts who started following Encinas this spring–particularly in games against top prospects Angelo Gumbs and Austin Wilson–did not seem to faze him. He profiles as a mid-rotation starter, and a future bump in velocity could even improve that outlook. He’s committed to Loyola Marymount.
One thing that worries me is that the series which begins tonight is far more important to the Red Sox than it is the Yankees. Boston’s season is on the line and if they do poorly their plight may be hopeless by Monday night. For the Yankees this is just anopther series in along string of series that they want to do well in…but the Yankees aren’t desperate for this series.
Experience tells me that the team that NEEDS to win a series like this usually DOES SO instead of the team that merely would like to win it. That makes me nervous!!! Is anyone else concerned about that? Is there anything Joe Girardi can do about it?
The Yanks will have had more than 48 hours off by the time they play tonight. I’m sure it was a much needed rest. I imagine the bats will be a little quicker tonight.
Definitely not 11, hun, but I’m sure you dont remember the Icebird commercials from years ago. It might be on Youtube. Thanks for the insult though. I’m just a Yankees fan like everyone else, and I don’t want trouble…so SJ and GB7, just see my “apologetic” post and move on. I guess we can’t have unique commenter opinions on this blog, just those of a certain 2 persons. Whatever, I’m moving on.
What about Berkman? K Long has found a mechanical failure with his back leg per Bryan Heyman’s story. Will Berksie be able to correct himself (considering he’s had productivity issues the last 2 years) or is he going to retire? Cashmoney is definitely a gambler.
On paper…yes. But you can expect them to come out as though their season is on the line (because it is). There is still a good bit of talent on that team (Ortiz, Lowell, Martinez, Beltre, Drew, etc) and their pitching staff is intact. I think they’re attitude will be to try to win the series to provide incentive so that Pedroia will come back quicker and so the front office will decide to make a deal for another bat.
I just don’t like battling against a cornered cat. Considering the way the Yankees played against Tampa Bay and Toronto I’m not excited about the momentum they are bringing into the series. I guess that I’m a worry-wort but I just don’t like they way things are set up for this series.
“I guess we can’t have unique commenter opinions on this blog, just those of a certain 2 persons”
That’s not the case at all. Debate is welcome, dissension is the norm around here. But sorry you took it one step too far. Disrespect is not welcome, and that was my perception of your posts. But as you say, let’s move on.
What about Berkman? K Long has found a mechanical failure with his back leg per Bryan Heyman’s story. Will Berksie be able to correct himself (considering he’s had productivity issues the last 2 years) or is he going to retire? Cashmoney is definitely a gambler.
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Are you implying that Cash may be inclined to pick up Berkman’s option?
Just think the offense isn’t there for ‘em anymore. From April 19 thru the end of June, they were winning at a .650 clip (43-23) and scoring 5.92 runs per game. That last week of June is when Pedroia and Martinez went down. Martinez is back but still struggling with the thumb and Pedroia is coming back who knows whem? Since July 1, they’ve averaged just under 4.5 runs per game and have gone .500 (15-15). Now without Youkilis…..Good pitching will handle this current group pretty easily. This 10 game roadie thru NYC, Toronto and Texas will be the death knell for Boston, IMO.
Tar, what did I say was offensive? I was just having a good debate with SJ44, and I misinterpreted a post from pat (sorry, pat, i thought you were a male too). and ppl jumped on me when I thought that making light of a figure skating reference was sexist. thats not exactly nice, right? i bet ill get bashed for this too, just because I disagreed with both of them. but please, what did i say wrong.
Just think the offense isn’t there for ‘em anymore. From April 19 thru the end of June, they were winning at a .650 clip (43-23) and scoring 5.92 runs per game. That last week of June is when Pedroia and Martinez went down. Martinez is back but still struggling with the thumb and Pedroia is coming back who knows whem? Since July 1, they’ve averaged just under 4.5 runs per game and have gone .500 (15-15). Now without Youkilis…..Good pitching will handle this current group pretty easily. This 10 game roadie thru NYC, Toronto and Texas will be the death knell for Boston, IMO.
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Bill, it certainly is true that their hitting is suspect at this stage. In order to climb back into the wildcard race they need to win a lot of 2-1 and 3-2 games…that is, indeed, tough to do when you go on the road. I don’t care too much about what happens to them in Toronto and Texas but I sure hope they don’t overachieve vs the Yankees this weekend.
“Are you implying that Cash may be inclined to pick up Berkman’s option?”
Not even sure Cashman would be willing to give Berkman the Nick Johnson deal next year, as they may need to keep the DH open for the likes of Montero, Posada and occasionally the old folks on the left side of the infield.
“”Are you implying that Cash may be inclined to pick up Berkman’s option?
If so, that’s not going to happen.”"
I meant that picking him up for the stretch run was a gamble. Sort of like buying a stock that’s been beaten down and you think it’s going to bounce back.
icebird, just let it go. I feel bad seeing that they’re pretty much ganging up on you. Just don’t respond to anything else they say, but your opinion’s welcome here. You just have a different thinking, that’s all.
“I meant that picking him up for the stretch run was a gamble. Sort of like buying a stock that’s been beaten down and you think it’s going to bounce back”
Paying 50 cents on the dollar on this particular stock mitigates the gamble considerably.
“Paying 50 cents on the dollar on this particular stock mitigates the gamble considerably.”
It’s a shame that someone as good as Berksie used to be is now a rental. If Long can’t fix him, he will retire. Not a bad time to retire after #28 is put in the books.
Maybe, depends on how the Sox pitch and how the Yankees play. If both teams play their best then the Yanks should take 3 of 4 because they are better than the Sox but you just never really know. A split would be satisfactory, 3 of 4 would be great, and a sweep lowers the Sox into their coffin. I’ll predict 3 of 4.
I’m thinking 3 of 4 too. Pitching as you suggest is the wild card. If the a couple of the Bosox throw gems, then they can win 2-3 games. If not, they are not likely able to keep pace with the Yankees bats.
I’m not saying that the Sox are done meaning eliminated. But the Sox are not going to make it to the playoffs with a strong Yankees and Rays team in the mix. That’s the point I’m trying to make. They will be out of this race pretty soon.
I think the Yankees have a clear pitching advantage in Game 2 and the Sox have a clear pitching advantage in Game 4. That doesn’t mean it will turn out that way but on paper that’s what it is…the other two games are toss ups for me.
You were actually making a pretty good case for Hoffmann. I disagree with it, but that’s ok.
It was these comments that IMO you should have left out. Which is why I responded to you. Obviously you didn’t need to add any of this to state your case.
“Yes owning you. Cause your reasons are ludicrous
You’re really sounding foolish now
You’re not going to admit it since you believe you know all, but you’re not right here.
Let’s use almighty SJ’s thinking
But I’ll leave that stuff to the almighty GB7 and SJ44, the only non-paid experts on this blog”
Tom Verducci? Why is he on the team? I hate that loser.
Good luck Chad and Sam
Verducci playing SS and cleaning up and Chad in the 5 hole….go get uhm boys.
Beat Boston!
Beat Boston!
Ledger_Yankees @BryanHoch throwing warmups.
Just make sure you kick Pete Abraham’s Bomber-hating butt! Pitch him inside and make him run!
BloggingBombers First pitch of the media game by @BryanHoch
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There was no Yankee Stadium game last season because the Yankees front office was upset at the writers for taking so many knocks at the new stadium.
Make sure to brush back Pete Abe…
Verducci is a good baseball writer despite that book he wrote with Torre.
I liked Axisa’s answer on Cano vs Pedroia but I’m not sure its even as close as he makes it out anymore.
Cano has vastly improved his defense over the last couple years and while Pedroia has been the better defender over their careers I’m not sure he is better anymore. Cano can make plays that other 2nd basemen just can’t because of his arm strength and the concentration issues seem to be a thing of the past. Also Cano’s upside as a hitter is much higher than Pedroia’s because of his power and that’s starting to show. Injury risk also has to factor in as well. Last year, I would have said they are even or maybe even give a slight nod toward Pedroia….going forward I think Cano is the better player by a good bit. Right now I think Utley is Cano’s only peer at 2B and that may not even be true pretty soon.
What good is Matthews to a baseball team? Unless He’s a switch whiner, there is no whine/snark position available when Verducci plays both positions.
Good, Joel Sherman isn’t in the line-up. He’d kill team spirit with his gloom-and-doom attitude…
Hey, at least Jon Heyman and Joel Sherman aren’t playing. Bill Madden too
Did anyone see the blown call in the Marlins-Phillies game last night that cost the Marlins a walk-off win? I just read about it but didn’t see a replay. Sounds like another terrible call by the third-base umpire.
going forward I think Cano is the better player by a good bit
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this is not news to me.
Lets think how huge that Vasquez trade may turn out to be. Not only has Javy been really solid since the first month, now another guy they got in that trade (Boone Logan) is really emerging as a viable bullpen option. Melky has been awful in Atlanta, Gardner has been great in NY…..not bad…
Wallace 0-4 with 4 K’s. Then we all go to ESPN NY and make fun of him. Break!
Chad and Sam-
Expecting a lot from you guys today, especially Chad, since you’re in Cano’s usual spot in the lineup!
JM-
I saw the replay and the discussion. The ball bounced fair some 15 feet in front of the bag, the umpire thought it crossed the bag foul, but he wasn’t in position to see the ball bounce fair some 10 feet behind the bag. Another reason for using an official[not another ump] up in the TV booth to relay the correct call down to the lead umpire.
A-Rod will be on with Michael Kay and Francesa today. Can’t wait.
Mike Dunn also keeps walking people in Atlanta’s bullpen, I think his WHIP is around 2 (even if it’s a small sample size). It’s funny they exchanged a power-throwing lefty with horrible control (Dunn) for a power-throwing lefty with better control and are reaping the benefits now, thanks to Logan actually finding the zone consistently.
Ump in Marlins game is sticking to his call.
I didn’t read any of this Cano vs Pedroia stuff, but I suspect Cano will lead the Yankees to several championships, while Pedroia will end up with his one solitary ring (which he will probably end up carrying to the heart of Mount Doom and throwing into its fiery cauldron).
Advantage: Robbie.
From George King-
What a nasty rumor. He must have meant the Yankees have interest in Carlos “the good” Guillen and not Jose.
Having acquired Lance Berkman and Austin Kearns this past weekend it would appear the Yankees wouldn’t have room for Jose Guillen.
Nevertheless, the Yankees aren’t shutting the door on acquiring the much-traveled 34-year-old outfielder who was designated for assignment yesterday by the Royals. They have 10 days to deal Guillen or release him.
Two weeks ago a Yankees official said there was no interest in Guillen, who told teammates at Yankee Stadium that he was close to becoming a Yankee. Now, the Yankees will track Guillen, who is expected to clear waivers since he is owed roughly $3.9 million for the remainder of this season.
Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports.....z0vppYSEQT
Nick,
lol…. If Pedroia is Frodo….who is Sam (the Youkka).
Nick-
Blake wrote:
Melky has been awful in Atlanta,
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What are you talking about? He’s batting .267 2 points below his career average and any Yankee fan knows that Melky’s worth to a team cannot be judged by his numbers alone. He’s help resuscitate a franchise on life support to a leading contender for the national league pennant.
The Marlins game? Worst call of the year by Bob Davidson.
Not only was the call bad, the replays showed he wasn’t even looking at the ball!
He then stubbornly refused to ask for help and said he got the call “right” after the game.
Horrible job all around by one of the worst umpires in the game.
Jim,
Ok….you keep believing that. I’m a Braves fan….I watch their games. He’s not very good.
His faithful servant Jacoby?
Beckett = Gollum.
Ah SJ44, stubborn as Tonya Harding when she refused to admit she was wrong. I wrote one last post before, and I’m done arguing with you. It’s like talking to a brick wall.
“The Marlins game? Worst call of the year by Bob Davidson”
Mrs. Gallaraga says it can’t be rank any higher than the 2nd worst call of the year.
*rankED
matthews, he a dreadful writer
Yea that call in the Marlins game was terrible. You can sometimes excuse human error in making the wrong call. What you can’t excuse is if the umpire is in the wrong position or in this case looking in the wrong place. They outlined what happened last night on MLB tonight. The ump gave up on the play before it hit the ground and assumed it was going foul….The human error part is going to happen….but the out of position and “mental mistakes” by the umpires happen far too often these days.
The clip of Bob Davidson is completely cringe-worthy and is just an indictment of a guy who I loathe and dread when he’s assigned to Yankees games. He is like the antithesis of Jim Joyce, who at least seems like a decent guy in-game (not like Davidson who always shows up managers + players who disagree with him on calls and is great for an ejection or more in his games/series), and seems completely incapable of showing some humility/self-criticism when it’s clear he got the call wrong.
Joyce is a great example for other umps when dealing with awful calls, but the key would be to remove the effect their poor decision-making has on games. But then again, Bud Selig is still in charge so replay will stay just a sham for the rest of the season I assume.
Is this Mrs. Gallaraga?
http://farm3.static.flickr.com.....201c52.jpg
Blake:
I can deal with the mistakes, but the obstinance is troubling. Why not get some help on a play like that? Then to stand by the call in the face of indisputable evidence. That’s really weak.
Wally Matthews can’t seem to get off A-Rods jock and write a respectable column. I have banned ESPNNY writings from this blog btw.
# icebird753 August 6th, 2010 at 10:21 am
Ah SJ44, stubborn as Tonya Harding when she refused to admit she was wrong. I wrote one last post before, and I’m done arguing with you. It’s like talking to a brick wall.
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Ya wouldn’t really bother…there are a lot of people like that here….”experts” on baseball. Good news and some nice people on here…but most of them just wait for SJ and GB to say something and then agree.
Icebird
You lose credibility points when there are myriads of choices to go with and you go with a figure skating reference.
Does anyone else feel this game should be televised on YES?
There was some discussion of Bob Ryan’s story today about the yankees. Forget “team check-book.” Here was the best part of the column:
One guy you can’t mess with is second baseman Robinson Cano, who, a late dip notwithstanding (1 for 14 this month), has had an MVP-type season. No one would dare argue the premise that he has been New York’s best player. A switch-hitting second baseman with an impressive .945 OPS who can also flash some fancy leather — what’s not to like?
I would personally go as far as saying that Robinson Cano is the best switch hitter the yankees have had since the Mick.
And that’s why Bob Ryan’s opinion matters – it’s his expertise. Because he’s willing to go that extra mile to do the hard work needed to figure out what everyone else has missed all these years – cano’s switch hitting.
Nick in SF-
You are up early. Please tell me you have been to bed
“Does anyone else feel this game should be televised on YES?”
Bunch of middle aged guys revisting their youth? Hard to believe the program director didn’t buy in. Give me the Dale Berra Yankeeography.
I hope Davidson isn’t umping any of the games for the Yankees for the rest of the year (and especially the playoffs).
Wow… pretty surprising stat from that Ryan article:
Given all that’s been going on with the Red Sox, however, wouldn’t you think the Yankees would have had a much better record than the Bostonians since the two last met on May 18? Well, they haven’t. Since last they met, the Yankees have gone 42-26. The Red Sox have gone 42-27.
RiverAveBlues The Wall Street Journal thinks Jeter will get hit No. 3000 on Monday, June 6, 2011. Mark your calendars.
http://bit.ly/dtcZLQ
Erin August 6th, 2010 at 10:38 am
RiverAveBlues The Wall Street Journal thinks Jeter will get hit No. 3000 on Monday, June 6, 2011. Mark your calendars.
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Kind of make it impossible to imagine him doing that with some other team
Yes, I was able to get about 4 hours of sleep.
I am in Napa now, but the LoHud info oppressors won’t let me say it.
craigcalcaterra None of the guys in this game are True Yankee beat writers.
Cano might as well be a switch hitter then way he hits lefties but still a pretty lazy effort by Ryan. The Yanks get credit for a lot of switch hitters it seems…a guy on MLBnetwork the other night thought Montero was one as well.
blake did you think Melky was good last year? Most people do not consider him a very good player. I think of him as a very effective role player that has a knack for contributing key plays to winning games that mostly go unnoticed and do not show up in the box score. The player that comes to the plate willing to give himself up to move a runner is more important in a big game against a superior pitcher a lot of times than a superstar hitter.
Good morning.
Wow – you learn something new everyday. How has it escaped me that Cano is a switch-hitter????
Eroc -
That is a surprising stat, but I think losing Youkilis will be the thing they can’t overcome. I think he is their best player.
Leaving Disneyland today for our drive up the Cali coast. We saw the World of Color last night. It was really a beautiful show.
GB7 -
I saw you posted last night about the Dodgers’ catcher Martin. We were there Tuesday night and saw the play at the plate. We were sitting near 3 guys (I would say older guys, but I think they were my age or around that), and they and my husband (along with just about everyone within earshot) bemoaned the fact that Martin should have slid into home. At the time it would have just meant he would have scored, but my husband noticed the play ended up awkwardly and was not surprised at all that he was injured. So the bad decision (no slide) cost him a run AND his season, and possibly his career. Wow. That’s a real shame. It’s also amazing that he, has he said “manned up” (eye roll) to catch the rest of the game. Gotta question that decision, too.
Let’s go Hoch.
Wow, Jim! I honest to god thought your initial post on Melky Cabrera was sarcasm. I need to check to my sarcaso-meter.
# Eroc August 6th, 2010 at 10:37 am
Wow… pretty surprising stat from that Ryan article:
Given all that’s been going on with the Red Sox, however, wouldn’t you think the Yankees would have had a much better record than the Bostonians since the two last met on May 18? Well, they haven’t. Since last they met, the Yankees have gone 42-26. The Red Sox have gone 42-27.
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it’s not surprising, it is lazy and irrelevant. the season starts on april 1st, not may 18th
Good morning everyone,
Chad, I am impressed that you are batting in Cano’s spot. We expect the best of you and Sam. Take it to the Boston writers for all of us. Best to both you and Sam.
Ryan’s comment on Jeter’s range was a littly lazy too. His defense has been fine this year. Overall the Yankees play very good defense.
Doreen, that was as ugly an ending that I’ve seen in years. About as bad as Robin Ventura and Bill Buckner. If Martin plays next year, I’d be shocked. It’s almost certain that it won;t be as a catcher. Talk about bad luck..after trading one of the top young catchers in baseball for a 36 year old journeyman 3rd baseman. Shades of the late 80s Yankees. How about trading Romine for Broxton (before they destroy his arm)?
Jim,
I think you just answered your own question. He’s a role player/4th outfielder that’s about to reach arbitration. He’s not been good this year in Atlanta and they would likely love to make a move to be able to play him less.
“it’s not surprising, it is lazy and irrelevant. the season starts on april 1st, not may 18th”
True. Ryan could have gone back a month further. Since 4/19 the Yankees are 58-37 and Boston is 58-38. Can’t ignore those 1st two weeks though, when the Yankees jumped off at 9-3 while Boston stumbled out at 4-9.
“Chad, I am impressed that you are batting in Cano’s spot”
Somebody has to preotect Verducci.
“Ryan’s comment on Jeter’s range was a littly lazy too. His defense has been fine this year”
No, that part of his piece was perfectly accurate.
GB
A long read but of a similiar mind to what you have been saying re: HRs, PEDs and other outside factors.
JPosnanski What if we are wrong again about steroids? http://bit.ly/92kSWs
Bill D August 6th, 2010 at 11:08 am
“Chad, I am impressed that you are batting in Cano’s spot”
Somebody has to preotect Verducci.
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Orotect him from who? The real players that he knifed in the back? Drill him in the ribs.
GB:
You trying to upstage me on misspelling the word “protect”?
If we can get our pitching on a roll we will be tough to beat.
I believe arod & jeter will get better towards the end.
I wan’t to see how hughes pitches over his next few starts to see if he is on to something.
Pettitte wil be back & if burnett can get on track i like our chances especially if ace comes back.
“DH Nick Johnson(notes) (inflamed tendon in right wrist) went on the 15-day disabled list May 8, and he was transferred to the 60-day DL on May 20. He underwent surgery May 18. He took his first swings of soft toss on July 27, and made vast improvements during his recent workouts by July 30, putting him in position to return to the Yankees before the end of the season. Johnson could play in minor league rehab games by mid-August”.
Here’s a story about the Marlins-Phils game, including video of blown call and some great quotes from Davidson in which he basically says, “I’m right in spite of all evidence to the contrary.”
http://mlb.fanhouse.com/2010/0.....s-victory/
Let the trade chatter begin….
Kansas City ace Zack Greinke didn’t seem as caught up in “raves from outside the organization” relating to the Royals farm as the franchise might be on the whole. “The biggest problem is I have two more years on my contract. Are those guys supposed to make it up by the beginning of next year?” Tell him, yes, some are projected to reach the majors next year, and Greinke just shakes his head. … “It’s been six years with me, and most people (who are Royals fans) have been through a lot more than I have. But for me, it’s the third complete re-start/rebuilding phase.” Would he be happier elsewhere? “I like Kansas City,” Greinke said. “It’s a town that fits me pretty well. But I don’t know … at least put a team together that has a fighting chance (to win).”
Kansas City Star
# pat August 6th, 2010 at 10:29 am
Icebird
You lose credibility points when there are myriads of choices to go with and you go with a figure skating reference.
Not only is that sexist, but its pretty rude too. Figure skating is a sport as well, man, just like baseball. I hope you were kidding, then I could say LOL
Wow, that’s a pretty big statement and charge to the Royals from Greinke.
That Ryan piece was crap. That’s the paper version of flapping his lips.
Melky’s a nice player, but I don’t think he’s the difference maker for the braves he’s being portrayed as here.
As for Ryan, does Joba look ruined right now? Be honest, Bob.
All of this Melky bashing is very shocking to the system. Certainly all of the caterwauling was mute during his clutch walk off hits last year? He was a part of the energy that was brought back to the former tired corporate Yankee club house. We all need to bow our heads with respect to the memory of Melky Cabrerra as a NYY. Amen brother and may you go on to hit close to .300 in Hotlanta!
Is Pete Abe on the opposing team? Maybe he can order us a side of chilly cheese fries and tofu? lol.
Not Melky bashing. Let me clarify. I like Melky and think he did some good things for the Yankees last year and was a contributor to their championship. That said, you don’t hesitate to trade him in the deal the Yankees made and he has regressed outside the protection of the Yankee lineup. Plus trading him allowed Gardner to emerge. He’s not hitting .300 and could very well be a bench player next season.
Melky got a hit off of Lincecum yesterday.
True story.
I haven’t seen the play, but Jason Smith was disturbed by it. Went on about it. The thing that bothered him is that he refused to ask for help on the play (archaic practice, even the NBA gets it right-there’s no protocol in overriding another official). But the worst thing was his comments after the game even after watching the replay.
Technically isn’t Sweeny a beat reporter? Will he be pinch hitting?
“Melky got a hit off of Lincecum yesterday. ”
Enrique Wilson owned Pedro Martinez.
pat August 6th, 2010 at 11:10 am
GB
A long read but of a similiar mind to what you have been saying re: HRs, PEDs and other outside factors.
JPosnanski What if we are wrong again about steroids? http://bit.ly/92kSWs
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Thanks for that great article, pat. Well worth the read. Some day, they might actually figure out a near exact equation for the number of homers that a player had with the help of PEDs. Something else that causes the home run spikes is the overall poor pitching. Every era has their share of stud pitchers, but, it’s the 2nd tier that’s gotten worse and the dependence on below average bullpens. Again, thank you for the article. I remain an 5%-10% boost is the most that it would help, and those percentages are most likely on the high side.
I was a Javy hater when we first picked him up. He has progressed and done well for a fifth starter, but I wouldn’t put him in a pressure packed playoff situation where he could implode ala 2004. Let him keep Cliff Lees spot in the rotation nice and warm.
“Melky got a hit off of Lincecum yesterday.”
Big deal. What ex-Yankee now playing for the Braves didn’t get a hit off of Lincecum yesterday?
Melky was awful in April, since then he’s been respectable hitting wise. Don’t know how his defense has been.
nick,
that robbie vs pedrioa post was hilarious. perfect way to start the day.
switch hitting robbie cano, man the things we miss out on! if only we paid enough attention on this blog to notice that. what an expert bob ryan is!
but as we all know, there are 15 position players in the red sox system that are more talented than arod and will have better careers that jeter and mo.
icebird753 August 6th, 2010 at 11:18 am
# pat August 6th, 2010 at 10:29 am
Icebird
You lose credibility points when there are myriads of choices to go with and you go with a figure skating reference.
Not only is that sexist, but its pretty rude too. Figure skating is a sport as well, man, just like baseball. I hope you were kidding, then I could say LOL
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Nothing rude in what pat said. Honest opinion, yes. You’re hardly in a position to be calling somebody rude.
I think its funny how a relief appearance 6 years ago means Javy would automatically implode if given a playoff start. Playoffs start today….he’s one of the four I’m going with.
I actually hate the common conception that Vazquez “imploded” in 2004.
Its utter nonsense.
but most of them just wait for SJ and GB to say something and then agree.
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Maybe with SJ…
“Don’t know how his defense has been.”
He’s been ok….though he did somehow throw a ball behind him the other night and cost the Braves the game.
Not only is that sexist,
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Now that I agree with…
I remember an interview where Mike Mussina was saying that MLB juiced the ball. I’ll see if I can find it.
Jim August 6th, 2010 at 10:14 am
Blake wrote:
Melky has been awful in Atlanta,
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What are you talking about? He’s batting .267 2 points below his career average and any Yankee fan knows that Melky’s worth to a team cannot be judged by his numbers alone. He’s help resuscitate a franchise on life support to a leading contender for the national league pennant.
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How do you translate Melky’s numbers into leading his team to a National League pennant? Compare his numbers to Gardner’s, then you’ll see why he was traded.
Melky – Avg .267, OBP .329, SLG .377, OPS .706, SB 4
Brett – Avg .290, OBP .388, SLG .392, OPS .780, SB 30
Now, that’s helping lead your team to winning a pennant!
OMG. Chill out everyone. What part of a winky do you not get? It was a joke.
If a woman can’t joke about figure skating then what can she joke about?
I know that was one relief appearance but once bitten twice…..
Too bad about Kevin Yuke, now Pig Slapi is going to have to step up. Without that warrior in the line up, it’s going to be death by a 1000 cuts for the Sux.
You’re confused, Carl, Mussina was accusing Will Schortz of juicing the Saturday crossword puzzle.
icebird
The
at the end of the statement means it was said in jest. I’ve heard of stubborn as a mule, stubborn as sisyphus but had never heard of stubborn as Tonya Harding.
I’m female and if you said stubborn as Brian Boitano I would have thought the same thing so nothing sexist about it.
Sorry if I offended.
Guess I didn’t win a ball. Were results posted anywhere?
Based on his recent tweet, Hoch must have gotten bombed.
mikey487 August 6th, 2010 at 11:38 am
Guess I didn?t win a ball. Were results posted anywhere?
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I don’t think winners were chosen yet
No one has been bragging on here
A lot of mannish females are going to be upset with you M.
Thanks Erica
Jim August 6th, 2010 at 10:14 am
Blake wrote:
Melky has been awful in Atlanta,
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What are you talking about? He’s batting .267 2 points below his career average and any Yankee fan knows that Melky’s worth to a team cannot be judged by his numbers alone. He’s help resuscitate a franchise on life support to a leading contender for the national league pennant.
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How do you translate Melky’s numbers into leading his team to a National League pennant? Compare his numbers to Gardner’s, then you’ll see why he was traded.
Melky – Avg .267, OBP .329, SLG .377, OPS .706, SB 4
Brett – Avg .290, OBP .388, SLG .392, OPS .780, SB 30
Now, that’s helping lead your team to winning a pennant
Melky,
What? I don’t get it.
I thought Sisyphus had to push that boulder up the hill eternally as a punishment from the Gods, not because he was stubburn.
But I could be wrong.
Nick
I guess if you don’t call it a day by the 1000th time it roles down, that’s pretty stubborn.
(Disclaimer: the winky indicates the above statement was said in jest and does not imply any mythological accuracy)
edit- rolls down
So it was just a role?
BryanHoch Well that didn’t go as I’d hoped
That doesn’t sound good. LOL
Ooooooh, your edit beat my weak fun.
Foiled again.
>> REPOSTED <<
Some comments about Mo…
The original post by Chad said "When rounded — like it will be in every statistical listing ever — Mariano Rivera now has a 1.00 career WHIP."
That is really an amazing stat! But, I want to add to it that the career WHIP is actually below 1.000. I think that's how I would emphasize it.
Also, in some ways even more incredible, is the fact that Mo's WHIP has been under 1.00 the last 3 years in a row, and 4 of the last 5… Seems like Mo ages like a fine wine.
Finally, his number of saves this year is "off" just a little bit. But that's not his fault. There just have not been enough save opportunities. Lots of the Yankees wins are by 4 or more runs.
I mean weak pun.
I should quit while I’m behind but I’ll keep trying to roll that boulder up the hill…
jimcallisBA Yankees, 6th-rd RHP Gabe Encinas agree to terms on $300k bonus. 90-92 FB, promising curve, projectable.
Nick in SF-
Are you okay? Do you need to talk?
Does Pete Abe play in these games?
Yesterday I mentioned how the Yanks signed their 30th rd pick for 265k. They just signed their 6th rounder for 300k. So the money they gave the 30th rounder tells you what they think of his potential.
Both pitchers have legit upside. The Yanks just continue to stockpile arms. Right now they have legit arms at every level of the farm. Good times.
@Pat, ok, just making sure, no offense taken and sorry to see it that way. And GB7, uh, ok, you are ALWAYS correct, and I am therefore a rude, foolish troll. I just don’t like to see comments that can be viewed in a sexist manner. But I’ll leave that stuff to the almighty GB7 and SJ44, the only non-paid experts on this blog. Ppl like me are rude and don’t know a lick, and I apologize for not being as wise as you.
Just saw this missed call. If Davidson just turns his head, it’s like three feet away.
A little bit more on Encinas (BTW, he won’t be 19 until December and he’s a Yankees fan)….
Bronx Baseball Daily had this blurb from Baseball America on draft day: Between showcase events last summer and fall and the spring season, Encinas boosted his stock significantly by improving his conditioning and mechanics. At 6-foot-4 and 200 pounds, he now looks the part of the classic lanky and projectable high school righthander. His stuff didn’t significantly improve, but he can maintain it deep into starts now. Encinas delivers a fastball that sits comfortably in the 90-92 mph range, and he shows a nice feel for mixing in a crisp curveball and changeup, which is probably the best changeup among Southern California prepsters. With smooth mechanics and an advanced feel for pitching, Encinas does an excellent job of mixing pitches, speeds and locations, and altering pitch sequences from at-bat at-bat. The large flock of scouts who started following Encinas this spring–particularly in games against top prospects Angelo Gumbs and Austin Wilson–did not seem to faze him. He profiles as a mid-rotation starter, and a future bump in velocity could even improve that outlook. He’s committed to Loyola Marymount.
Don August 6th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
Does Pete Abe play in these games?
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If he does, he’ll try to emulate Ortiz and run to 1st base like it was the electric chair.
“Ppl like me are rude and don’t know a lick, and I apologize for not being as wise as you”
SJ, GB
Icebird just “owned” you. LOL
BTW Icebird that’s an expression my 11 year old uses. How old are you?
One thing that worries me is that the series which begins tonight is far more important to the Red Sox than it is the Yankees. Boston’s season is on the line and if they do poorly their plight may be hopeless by Monday night. For the Yankees this is just anopther series in along string of series that they want to do well in…but the Yankees aren’t desperate for this series.
Experience tells me that the team that NEEDS to win a series like this usually DOES SO instead of the team that merely would like to win it. That makes me nervous!!! Is anyone else concerned about that? Is there anything Joe Girardi can do about it?
Sorry M, messed up the poster talking about Tonya Harding.
davidson needs to be suspended. it’s shameful
The Yanks will have had more than 48 hours off by the time they play tonight. I’m sure it was a much needed rest. I imagine the bats will be a little quicker tonight.
JPB:
Boston’s pretty much dead man walking right now.
Definitely not 11, hun, but I’m sure you dont remember the Icebird commercials from years ago. It might be on Youtube. Thanks for the insult though. I’m just a Yankees fan like everyone else, and I don’t want trouble…so SJ and GB7, just see my “apologetic” post and move on. I guess we can’t have unique commenter opinions on this blog, just those of a certain 2 persons. Whatever, I’m moving on.
I have yet to be notified that I have won the coveted Marcus Thames ball…
Looks like registration hasn’t stopped the trolls from posting…
What about Berkman? K Long has found a mechanical failure with his back leg per Bryan Heyman’s story. Will Berksie be able to correct himself (considering he’s had productivity issues the last 2 years) or is he going to retire? Cashmoney is definitely a gambler.
Is there anyway to see the game? lol i want to see Verducci hit, especially after his Blue Jays stint
JPB:
Boston’s pretty much dead man walking right now.
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On paper…yes. But you can expect them to come out as though their season is on the line (because it is). There is still a good bit of talent on that team (Ortiz, Lowell, Martinez, Beltre, Drew, etc) and their pitching staff is intact. I think they’re attitude will be to try to win the series to provide incentive so that Pedroia will come back quicker and so the front office will decide to make a deal for another bat.
I just don’t like battling against a cornered cat. Considering the way the Yankees played against Tampa Bay and Toronto I’m not excited about the momentum they are bringing into the series. I guess that I’m a worry-wort but I just don’t like they way things are set up for this series.
Just watching Peteabe in the stands chowing down would be worth it!
“I guess we can’t have unique commenter opinions on this blog, just those of a certain 2 persons”
That’s not the case at all. Debate is welcome, dissension is the norm around here. But sorry you took it one step too far. Disrespect is not welcome, and that was my perception of your posts. But as you say, let’s move on.
What about Berkman? K Long has found a mechanical failure with his back leg per Bryan Heyman’s story. Will Berksie be able to correct himself (considering he’s had productivity issues the last 2 years) or is he going to retire? Cashmoney is definitely a gambler.
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Are you implying that Cash may be inclined to pick up Berkman’s option?
If so, that’s not going to happen.
JPB:
Just think the offense isn’t there for ‘em anymore. From April 19 thru the end of June, they were winning at a .650 clip (43-23) and scoring 5.92 runs per game. That last week of June is when Pedroia and Martinez went down. Martinez is back but still struggling with the thumb and Pedroia is coming back who knows whem? Since July 1, they’ve averaged just under 4.5 runs per game and have gone .500 (15-15). Now without Youkilis…..Good pitching will handle this current group pretty easily. This 10 game roadie thru NYC, Toronto and Texas will be the death knell for Boston, IMO.
BloggingBombers Worst media game ever. We got blown out and I’m the DL. Awesome.
Tar, what did I say was offensive? I was just having a good debate with SJ44, and I misinterpreted a post from pat (sorry, pat, i thought you were a male too). and ppl jumped on me when I thought that making light of a figure skating reference was sexist. thats not exactly nice, right? i bet ill get bashed for this too, just because I disagreed with both of them. but please, what did i say wrong.
“BloggingBombers Worst media game ever. We got blown out and I’m the DL. Awesome”
Didn’t the NY media guys win by a couple touchdowns when they played in Boston?
Bill D August 6th, 2010 at 12:35 pm
?BloggingBombers Worst media game ever. We got blown out and I’m the DL. Awesome?
Didn?t the NY media guys win by a couple touchdowns when they played in Boston?
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They did. I guess it’s only fitting it was reversed this time. But I still wanted NY to win.
Just think the offense isn’t there for ‘em anymore. From April 19 thru the end of June, they were winning at a .650 clip (43-23) and scoring 5.92 runs per game. That last week of June is when Pedroia and Martinez went down. Martinez is back but still struggling with the thumb and Pedroia is coming back who knows whem? Since July 1, they’ve averaged just under 4.5 runs per game and have gone .500 (15-15). Now without Youkilis…..Good pitching will handle this current group pretty easily. This 10 game roadie thru NYC, Toronto and Texas will be the death knell for Boston, IMO.
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Bill, it certainly is true that their hitting is suspect at this stage. In order to climb back into the wildcard race they need to win a lot of 2-1 and 3-2 games…that is, indeed, tough to do when you go on the road. I don’t care too much about what happens to them in Toronto and Texas but I sure hope they don’t overachieve vs the Yankees this weekend.
and nothing personal. please. if you don’t want to see my comments, just say it and you won’t see a post from me again.
“Are you implying that Cash may be inclined to pick up Berkman’s option?”
Not even sure Cashman would be willing to give Berkman the Nick Johnson deal next year, as they may need to keep the DH open for the likes of Montero, Posada and occasionally the old folks on the left side of the infield.
Why would anyone be worried about the Sox and this series. It really mean nothing atthis point.
The Sox are done ! This will be a Yankees Rays race just like a lot of people said it would be.
I just hope the Yankees finish off the Sox for good.
“”Are you implying that Cash may be inclined to pick up Berkman’s option?
If so, that’s not going to happen.”"
I meant that picking him up for the stretch run was a gamble. Sort of like buying a stock that’s been beaten down and you think it’s going to bounce back.
“The Sox are done ! This will be a Yankees Rays race just like a lot of people said it would be.”
Toronto’s done. Yankees just lost a series to them. Always have to at least respect the opponent.
Icebird, chill! It’s laughable to give any of these posters that kind of power over you.
Let’s move on. It was a misunderstanding. pat, stop stirring up trouble.
This series means a lot to the Yankees IMO. They’re in a dogfight for HFA. And they’re probably none too happy they couldn’t score runs down in Tampa.
icebird, just let it go. I feel bad seeing that they’re pretty much ganging up on you. Just don’t respond to anything else they say, but your opinion’s welcome here. You just have a different thinking, that’s all.
OK. I think Berk will help them.
Bill D,
I think they’ll pick up another big ol lefty bat for DH next season on the cheap.
“I meant that picking him up for the stretch run was a gamble. Sort of like buying a stock that’s been beaten down and you think it’s going to bounce back”
Paying 50 cents on the dollar on this particular stock mitigates the gamble considerably.
Goodbye Icebird, and thank you for playing our game.
If the Yanks win 3 of 4 or sweep, the Sox are done.
If they split, the Sox are probably done.
If the Sox win 3 of 4 or sweep, the Sox are not done.
The Sox aren’t done. They could be done after this weekend or they could be right back in it. This is a very big series.
Without Yukey playing, it’s like taking Paulie out of the line up. It’s going to kill them.
The Yankees WILL win 3 or 4 of these, (my money is on the sweep), then you can truly stick a fork in the BoSux……ADIOS, BASTAGES !
Not arguing that this isn’t an important series. Guess I ‘m just saying the Red Sox are bringing a knife to a gunfight.
“Paying 50 cents on the dollar on this particular stock mitigates the gamble considerably.”
It’s a shame that someone as good as Berksie used to be is now a rental. If Long can’t fix him, he will retire. Not a bad time to retire after #28 is put in the books.
Bill D,
Maybe, depends on how the Sox pitch and how the Yankees play. If both teams play their best then the Yanks should take 3 of 4 because they are better than the Sox but you just never really know. A split would be satisfactory, 3 of 4 would be great, and a sweep lowers the Sox into their coffin. I’ll predict 3 of 4.
Blake:
I’m thinking 3 of 4 too. Pitching as you suggest is the wild card. If the a couple of the Bosox throw gems, then they can win 2-3 games. If not, they are not likely able to keep pace with the Yankees bats.
I’m not saying that the Sox are done meaning eliminated. But the Sox are not going to make it to the playoffs with a strong Yankees and Rays team in the mix. That’s the point I’m trying to make. They will be out of this race pretty soon.
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Sorry. I make one bad figure skating joke and people get their tutus in a twist.
If Tanya Harding is in the sux dugout, we are in trouble lol.
I think the Yankees have a clear pitching advantage in Game 2 and the Sox have a clear pitching advantage in Game 4. That doesn’t mean it will turn out that way but on paper that’s what it is…the other two games are toss ups for me.
icebird753
You were actually making a pretty good case for Hoffmann. I disagree with it, but that’s ok.
It was these comments that IMO you should have left out. Which is why I responded to you. Obviously you didn’t need to add any of this to state your case.
“Yes owning you. Cause your reasons are ludicrous
You’re really sounding foolish now
You’re not going to admit it since you believe you know all, but you’re not right here.
Let’s use almighty SJ’s thinking
But I’ll leave that stuff to the almighty GB7 and SJ44, the only non-paid experts on this blog”
Now can we move on.
Melk
Could you imagine Pete Abe blocking home plate? Nobody would score on him, he’d be impenetrable.
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Did anyone read Joe P’s article on ‘roids? Pretty interesting..kinda tired of the whole thing but worth the reading here…http://joeposnanski.si.com/201.....?eref=sihp