Red Sox pull within five games
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Aug 06, 2010 
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The American League East might be a two-team race between the Yankees and Rays, but the Red Sox pulled within five games with a 6-3 win tonight at Yankee Stadium. Javier Vazquez walked in a run, couldn’t pitch around a second-inning error and gave up a rookie’s first career home run. Clay Buchholz gave up a first-inning home run, but allowed just one run the rest of the way. The Yankees stayed in first place thanks to the Rays 2-1 loss against Toronto.
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Throw us a bone. 6 in the loss column.
bothered me that Swisher swung at that 1-0 Papelbon pitch when 1) he has not hit Papelbon well at all and 2) Jeter just worked a walk and had Papelbon rattled. Why not make him throw a strike especially when you are not even the tying run.
“GAME OVER!!!! This team sucks!”
AGREE! Even though they won tonight, they absolutely suck. What do they say about a blind squirrel finding a nut?
Cashmoney, I’m with you on Vegas. So as a treat I am going to go find the Vegas odds and let everyone know who the pros say will win the WS!!! Be right back.
LOL ! I can?t believe some people on this forum can come on here and say that the 2009 Yankees had a ?magical feel? to it.
Please ! They were getting beat down by the Sox and even the Marlins and Nats and most of you said that they weren?t going to even make it to the playoffs. So get out of here with that ?Magic? crap.
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6 in the loss column ain’t chopped liver. Let ‘em feel hopeful. All the more done to crush them when it counts.
Yanks will be fine, Sux will take home third place.
Anyone remember the tormented lohud blog when the Sux were up 8-0 in the season series against the Yanks? Buck up little ones. One flippin loss to the Sux and youre ready for hari kari. Come on now.
Jeremy-
The ’09 Yanks didn’t look great for awhile but at this time of year was when they started to find their groove. This marks the 1 year anniversey of that 4 game sweep over Boston. THey got key bench pieces in Hairston and Hinske who contributed. Lets see if this years version can find their groove here.
The Sox are still in this thing – and they deserve a lot of credit. This is not going to be an easy series to split -actually, we now have to take 2/3 with CC, AJ and Moselely going. CC – ok. The other two? Please……….
Rconn, I have said all year this is not a great offense………..My expectations are not sky high for this team, so if they win the WS it won’t surprise me; if they get knocked out in the first round, it won’t surprise me.
I really like Swish batting 2nd but they might have to try batting Gardner 2nd and Swish 6th. Gardner hasn’t been hitting recently and hasn’t hit well at the top of the lineup when he was up there. He seemed to put too much pressure on himself but they might have to try it because there are too many automatic outs at the bottom. They need to extend this lineup some how.
Jeremy – good call. And were it not for the Cervelli error, Yanks may very well have taken this game. There will always be panickers. Unfortunately many of them like living here.
Tyler
I don’t believe in that stuff. Because the Yankees in 2000 looked like crap and won the World Series. The Cardinals in 2006 looked like crap all year long turned it on and won the World Series. And I can go on and on.
You guys are just making up stuff that makes no sense.
They need a big effort from CC, and maybe a hit a RS or two for Jeter getting hit.
Cervelli has certainly regressed to his mean. Any Posada basher on here is an absolute moron!
Trish, did you get my e-mail? I sent it last night………
jeremy-
I know that the Yanks and Cards won the World Series. Alot of the playoffs is getting hot at the right time. Maybe a close division race will keep the Yanks sharp to the end. But their staff as of right now doesn’t give me much confidence. Lets hope that the Yanks get hot at the right time and can sustain their momentum. The ’09 team did. We will have to see if the ’10 team can. I sure hope they can but somebody is going to have to step up in addition to Cano and Rivera or they are in trouble.
Vazquez and Burnett need to be put on a short leash for the rest of the season. Both have the capability of pitching out of early trouble but I think they both was a lot of gas by doing so. Once they show the first sign of trouble after a rough inning they need to be pulled quickly.
Just a crappy outing by Javy. Cervelli’s dumb mistake didn’t help. The offense is still sputtering. Can’t even beat Pawtucket. Sheesh. Ugly outing altogether.
Jo e is pissed at cervelli, as many are.
that should read: waste a lot of gas
Jo e ticked at Cervelli, as many are.
Any chance of a call up?
Wonder if cervelli gets traded in the offseason for some donuts. Bring up romine?
Gardner isn’t a second place hitter.
Leave Swish where he is, and put Kearns in the lineup for Granderson.
Gardner can play CF.
That’s the only change I make to the lineup.
At this point, Granderson is a liability in the lineup. He just can’t hit and they didn’t bring him in here to hit like this.
They have given him all year to get it going and he’s getting worse.
There no longer time to “fix” guys. Its time to win and make a push to the playoffs.
That means, you sit him, play Kearns, and go from there.
Frankly, Kearns has been having a better year than Granderson and you don’t lose anything defensively with Gardner in CF.
Javy? Basically, he’s pitched himself off the post-season rotation and will be a long man in the bullpen.
He’s just not reliable in big games and unfortunately, that held true again tonight.
It would be nice if Jeter is beginning a good run. That would help the offense immensely.
That said, its still all about starting pitcher.
When your starter implodes, you lose. Been that way all year.
Its CC’s turn to stop the bleeding tomorrow. Hopefully, he will get the job done.
I still fear the Red Sox, thanks a lot 2004
I might have to agree with some who say Hughes will pitch in the post.
The pen looks deep enough without him.
Javy could be the odd man out esp in the ALDS.
The Yanks need CC to do his thing and come out and dominate tomorrow. Would have really liked to get this one tonight, it would really have put the pressure on Boston in this series, but what can you do.
Before the break the starters looked so strong. But over the last couple of weeks it’s been the opposite. Obviously the loss of Andy has hurt badly but even CC has struggled lately. Hopefully he rights the ship tomorrow or it could be a very long weekend.
Tyler
I agree about the rotation. Which is why the Yankees need Hughes starting in October. They don’t need two 8th inning guys with Robertson throwing the ball really well.
Also I’m tired of seeing A.J. Burnett on this team. I would love it if the Yankees ate his contract and got rid of him.
I doubt the offense is going to find it’s groove…….3/4 of the season is done and the only players having good years are Cano and Swisher; Tex has been a lot better, ok……..and I wouldn’t be shocked if Jeter turned it around. That said, I think this is a bully team – if they’re hot, great. If not, might as well forget it. I have little confidence.
Javy unravelled after the error.
SJ,
What do you think can be done about the catching situation. If Posada can’t go 2 of 3 in a series will they just keep turning to Cervelli? I’m definitely not saying bring up Montero because I know he needs to play every day and improve his D and keep seeing AAA pitching but is there any other alternative? I know Cisco isn’t going to hit much but it has been his shoddy receiving and defense that has me most frustrated. That was always his specialty in the minors and it has been pretty subpar this year imo.
“bothered me that Swisher swung at that 1-0 Papelbon pitch when 1) he has not hit Papelbon well at all”
Bothered by Swisher? Look elsewhere. Swisher was not the reason the Yankees lost.
Just once I would love to hear Girardi say that the offense stinks rather than praise how good the opposing pitcher is.
Granderson needs to sit. Enough with his AA batting. They should also sit Berkman. Neither are putting together anything at the plate.
Gardner needs to do some bunts and stealing of bases. Its getting to the point where I think Posada could steal more bases than Gardner can. And we all know Posada isn’t stealing.
Jeremy-
Actually I would have Burnett in the playoff rotation. At least he gives you the potential of a good outing. Vazquez at this point is what he is against good teams, 5 runs in 6 IP. AJ could be a train wreck or he could go 7 and allow 1ER like game 2. I agree on Hughes. He’s the number 3 at this point imo.
I can’t stand watching Papelbon pitch. Not because he beat us, I have no problems with someone who is good, but because he always looks like he is sucking on lemons in between pitches. The same with Youk batting, he dances around so much it seems a stripper pole would be a better fit in his hands instead of a bat. Sorry for the rant, sour lemons I suppose (pun intended)
Wouldn’t be surprised of a waiver pickup of a catcher.
Right now Jeremy, this team needs AJ Burnett in a big way.
In fact, I would argue he’s the most important pitcher on the staff right now.
Javy can’t pitch in big games. That’s pretty evident.
Andy is hurt.
Hughes is on innings limits.
CC is still solid but, he’s human. He’s going to have a bad game every once in a while.
Who does that leave? AJ.
They need him to get on a roll and that will make a life a lot easier in the last 54 games of the year.
“Obviously the loss of Andy has hurt badly ”
very very badly.
I would bring Montero up in 2 weeks. There is no difference between the Aug. 20th and Sept. 1.
Well, even though post-season innings don’t count against the innings limit, Phil could be utterly exhausted by then (though perhaps he’s finding something of a second wind). I really hate having to skip him any more times – I almost would rather take him out of games early (but even that sucks).
tampayank August 6th, 2010 at 10:39 pm
I still fear the Red Sox, thanks a lot 2004
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Thanks to Joe Torre
Yes Berkman isn’t hitting but I’d still give him a break for now. It’s going to take a little while before he’s truly comfortable. Plus as its been said many times, he rushed back from injury and teams pitched around him in Houston. Thus, he really hasn’t had that many swings this year and is probably behind the other players. Berkman is an extremely talented hitter and I think he has something left.
I don’t know what to do with Grandy on the other hand…
Bets, check your email!
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I will disagree with anyone and everyone who see the Sux as anything more than a toss-of-the-coin team who came into the Bronx the way all teams do – wanting to beat the Yankees. They just lost 2 of 4 to CLEVELAND. CLEVELAND, you know the team in LAST PLACE in the central?
When they were at full strength I saw them as exactly what they are – a third place team. That surely hasnt changed.
There will always be people who feel the need to pay hommage to the Sux no matter what their team looks like. So be it. There will always be people who live in mortal fear of the Sux no matter what their team look like. So be it. They took two world series since 2000 – 2004* and 2007*. How about we call a spade a spade. They are playing over their heads right now anyway and it will come home to bite them.
Don’t let the fact that the Yankees have run out of a little steam right now cause you to forget who they are. And if you do, shame on you.
I always look forward to what the Sux praisers have to say at the end of the season when the Sux take the pipe. I bet it’s excuse city then. Last year there were fearers and praisers all season long saying the same kinds of things we’re hearing this season. What did they say when the Angels made the Sux look like fools, Papelbon especially, and the Yankees won the world series? Probably said lucky win by the Yankees, we were lucky that the Sux players all came down with the flu – or something equally credible.
But that’s the thing about Javy and Burnett. They settle down for a little bit and as soon as the offense comes through just a bit they give it up. I know A.J. Burnett is weak mentally and I’m starting to question Javy as well. It also doesn’t help that Javy has had a large enough sample size of postseason starts and almost all of them have been bad.
He blew up in the ALDS with the WhiteSox against the Rays in 2008. Right now I don’t trust them.
This game rally turned on two plays. One was obviously the dropped pop up in the 2nd. The other was Teixeira popping up with one out and runners on 1st and 3rd in the 6th.
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I think the DP by Granderson with 1st and 2nd and no one out on the first pitch of the at bat was far worse than Tex’s popup.
Alex drove in the run after Tex anyway so it didn’t really hurt that much.
Granderson’s DP killed them. They had Buthoelz on the ropes. That DP just completely changed the complexion of the game and is one of the major reasons Buthoelz pitched into the 8th inning.
Frankly, Kearns has been having a better year than Granderson and you don’t lose anything defensively with Gardner in CF.
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You don’t lose anything with Gardner in CF, but you lose having Kearns in LF. Kearns doesn’t field that well.
It’s hurt, but has Andy’s absence had an effect on CC’s pitching? AJ’s? Javy’s? Phil’s? Mosely has been ok……….We’ve weathered Andy’s absence, but our regular starters have been mediocre at best and that has nothing to do with Andy.
“Right now Jeremy, this team needs AJ Burnett in a big way.”
Yes they do…if he wants that start in Game 2 then he needs to step up and show that he belongs there….he’s got several more starts to prove it.
Trisha
Don’t underestimate the BoSox staff.
“I still fear the Red Sox, thanks a lot 2004″
I think you mean thanks a lot 2004*.
Steroid users in the 2004 lineup – Ortiz, Manny, Trott Nixon, Varitek, Kapler, Foulke
I hate to kill Granderson……but Buchholz has made a habit out of pitching out of trouble all year; he should get the credit, should he not?
Trish, I will in a few!
It would be nice if Girardi started playing Granderson less and less. Enough is enough already. He should earn his playing time and it seems like every night is an 0-4 with at least 2 strikes. He swings threw every fastball and just doesn’t make good contact. Give Kearns a chance.
# mick August 6th, 2010 at 10:43 pm
Wouldn’t be surprised of a waiver pickup of a catcher.
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that’s why i thought guys like John Buck or Chris Snyder made some sense for the Yanks before the trade deadline. at this point, unless you can get a waiver catcher , i doubt it. I don’t know if internal options are better than Cervelli. again, This is because Posada can no longer catch more than two days in a row , at least that’s what Joe G were lead to believe or told by Po. Cervelli, otherwise, who might have play little over his head is not horrible backup option, which is not his role right now.
“Trisha
Don’t underestimate the BoSox staff.”
mick, I don’t. I estimate them exactly as they are. That’s why I sleep well and end up calling it right.
There are no waiver catchers on the market worth anything.
Montero isn’t ready to catch up here. Not even close.
If Jorge can only catch 3 days a week, that means you are going to see Cervelli in the lineup 3-4 times a week. Nothing can be done about the catching situation right now.
That’s why I advocate playing Kearns more and sitting Granderson.
If you have both Cervelli and Granderson in the game at the same time, you have giving away 8 AB’s a night. Too much, IMO.
It would be one thing if those guys took walks, had good AB’s, etc. But, they don’t so, you have to make adjustments.
I think Berkman will come around. He’s got a better history for hitting than both Granderson and Cervelli.
He hit the ball on the nose the past few days but at people. He isn’t the issue.
This team will rise and fall on starting pitching and a lineup that, even inconsistent, is still capable of scoring runs.
When the starters stink, this team stinks. That’s what we have seen all year.
Cervelli looks shot at this point. Can’t go much longer with him back there.
Both offenses got 9 hits and were both 1-8 RISP with 8 men left on base.
Real or false SJ, I agree with you about AJ. I think he’s going to pull it together and really kick ass.
Cervelli has come back to what he is, a Jose Molina type hitter. Granderson is a big disappointment.
But my biggest concern is the pitching. Javy not pitching well and AJ is very good or very bad.
So maybe (hate to say it) Granderson is on the decline? He did have a bad year last year.
I don’t fear the Red Sox but Torre does deserve alot of blame for 2004. I always said that he should have been fired after that series.
The Yankees’ offense in August: .208 .248 .362 .610
The Yankees’ offense for the season: .269 .350 .440 .790
If they hit, they win.
mick, I don’t. I estimate them exactly as they are. That’s why I sleep well and end up calling it right.
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i know you joke but are righteous.
“I don’t fear the Red Sox but Torre does deserve alot of blame for 2004. I always said that he should have been fired after that series.”
Totally agree.
Losing Andy hurts because you lose a guy that is a known. You know he’s going to give you a chance to win every night and give you length in games. That makes it easier to use the pen withi the other guys.
Its been a big loss and its been felt.
Betsy.
Hughes is 13-4, and has pitched very well in 3 of his last 4 starts. He’s not going to be exhausted by the end of the year.
Right now, he’s the second best pitcher on this staff and still possesses swing and miss stuff.
His walk to K ratio is as good as anybody’ in the league not named Cliff Lee.
He is certainly capable of being in a post-season rotation, and that’s probably what’s going to happen.
He’s not a piece of fine china. He’s not going to break.
“Javy unravelled after the error”
The difference between him and Buchholtz tonight. When Boston made their error in the 4th, the Yankees had men on 1st and 2nd with none out. 7 pitches later Buchholtz is out of the inning without allowing a run.
Vazquez? Walks the 9 hitter. Walks a struggling Ellsbury. Then leaves a 1-2 fastball where Scutaro can smack it.
the impostor season is over.
They cannot live with Cervelli’s bat 3 or 4 times a week.
Javy’s body language told all after the dropped pop.
Well at least the Rays failed. It seems like their offense is not that that good as well. This postseason should be interesting.
Granderson’s #’s have gone down every year for the last couple of years. It’s a few years in the making it didn’t just start last year. Plain and simple Cashmoney got robbed by the Tigers.
Once pettitte returns we will be fine.CC is cc,hughes is pitching better.
We win tomorrow & we are right back to were we started before tonights game.
Cashmoney –
DRUM ROLL!!!
ODDS TO WIN THE 2010 AL CHAMPIONSHIP
Yankees – 3/2
Rays – 5/2
Sux – 12/1
ODDS TO WIN THE 2010 WORLD SERIES
Yankees – 3/1
Rays – 5/1
Sux – 18/1
Yeah, the Sux are sure scary!!!!!
SJ, I’m not worried about him breaking – and I didn’t come up with the idea of innings limits. The Yankees are worried about him – obviously.
The fact that he’s the 2nd best pitcher on the staff speaks more to how bad the staff is than to how good he’s been. He was good in Tampa – the other starts were ok at best.
AT this point, we’re not in the playoffs, so it’s moot.
if Grandy cant hit leftys by now, he might never hit em. Long or no Long.
Go for Crawford , find a way to trade Grandy, pay part of the salary.
i keep on hearing the notion that ppl blames Javy for losing 2004 playoff. Yet so far, i haven’t heard a single person who actually have said that , EVER! the Yankees lost the 2004 playoff, collectively.
Does that mean , Javy did not suck in the playoff or in regular season against Sox that year, no, he was putrid , and you can look it up.
I will say this one more time , i am sure it will sound like whining or just beating a dead horse. But Javy Vasquez has done anything to instill my confidence in his ability to pitch in a big game or against a good team by his performance this year or his performance in the past.
“I don’t fear the Red Sox but Torre does deserve alot of blame for 2004. I always said that he should have been fired after that series.”
I was pretty much in disbelief that he survived 2006.
Javy sez, “I shoulda called it.” WRONG!!!
Buchholz also has much better stuff than Javy at this point………and he’s nearly 10 years younger. He’ s made the leap in terms of mental outlook……I guess Javy never did.
They have no choice but to live with it because they don’t have another catcher to put back there.
Its not going to be Montero. He isn’t remotely ready to be behind the plate in a major league game.
This is still a lineup that has Jeter, Swisher, Tex, Arod, Cano, Posada or Berkman, Gardner and whomever else they want to put in there. That should be enough to produce runs.
If they need Cervelli to hit, their season is already over.
What they need him to do is catch a heckuva lot better than he has the last month.
He’s been very bad back there and that hurting the team more than his bat right now.
trisha – true pinstriped blue August 6th, 2010 at 10:55 pm
He’s been very bad back there and that hurting the team more than his bat right now.
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Then go get Moeller.
I think Berkman will be fine as well………..and I agree that Cervelli and Granderson are killing them.
I definitely don’t see Javy anywhere near the ALDS roster.
The issue is that the A.J. is a headcase but has great stuff and Javy is mentally weak with average stuff.
Can’t wait till we get Lee next year and develop more starters for this rotation. Bo more javys and A.J.’s that can step up and act like men in big situations.
“Both offenses got 9 hits and were both 1-8 RISP with 8 men left on base.”
Without Cervelli’s misplay, who knows.
Well ONWARD AND UPWARD Yankee fans!!!! As they keep saying on the radio, players don’t get too up or too down about wins and losses because they have to come out and play the next day and its a long season.
But that fans could actually process it the same way.
We’ll get ‘em tomorrow.
Night all.
sorry- No more
It would be nice if Eiland would come out to the mound to talk to AJ or Vazquez during their melt downs. Eiland didn’t come out once during that 2nd inning and I don’t think he came out during AJ’s melt down the other day either. It’s obvious that especially with AJ he needs Eiland to encourage him and hold his hand to get him threw it when things go bad. Girardi and Eiland need to wake up and be more hands on especially with Cervelli behind the plate.
Berkman’s was a tough O’fer tonight. Pretty well hit grounder up the middle that ended up a Scutaro error and then that diving grab by Ellsbury. Berkman didn’t hit the ball badly tonight.
Javy looked tonight like he did in April…tentative, afraid of the plate, throwing junk….its hard to figure. He hasn’t been that pitcher in quite awhile.
This is what Cervelli is. He’s a backup at the big league level that is having to play more than he should.
The Yanks are still in 1st because the Rays only manages 1 run against Cecil and wasted a good start by Garza.
Dunn has hit 2 homers against Kershaw.
For the first time tonight Granderson made me long for Melky.
He doesn’t deserve his contract, the uniform on his back or his starting job.
He isn’t just bad. He’s a catastrophe of a trade acquisition.
When the team’s plan is to essentially exchange Damon and Matsui for Nick Johnson and Granderson and this is the end result, it’s beyond a failure.
Cashman did the right thing. He just didn’t question enough why Detroit would be trading this so called all star CF’er. They’re not a small market team. They can afford big contracts.
Leyland and company knew this guy was shot as a player and would be an albatross for years to come.
He better rededicate himself to his game or he’ll be a 4-5th OF’er on this team next season at best.
Horrid.
Kearns should get a shot. At least the ball has the capacity to jump off his bat.
“The issue is that the A.J. is a headcase but has great stuff and Javy is mentally weak with average stuff. ”
Orel Herscheser was on with Kay today and said the problem is AJ’s mechanics.
I don’t think Javy is weak. I just think he can’t adjust to his declining FB velo.
Innings limits isn’t about being fearful. Its about protecting a young arm. Big difference.
The Yankees are going to make the playoffs. They aren’t going to fall apart. Mainly because, they have too much talent to fall apart. This isn’t 2004.
CC, Andy and AJ are going to be in the post-season rotation.
That leaves one spot…..Hughes or Vazquez.
Hard to imagine its going to be Javy.
“If they need Cervelli to hit, their season is already over.”
His defense isn’t even that good right now.
SJ, we do have the horses…….but they all have to step up and most of them at the same time. It always seems like 2 guys are hot while the rest are not – that won’t work in the playoffs. They also can not keep leaving guys on base – runs are a precious commodity in the playoffs.
# Bill D August 6th, 2010 at 11:01 pm
Berkman’s was a tough O’fer tonight. Pretty well hit grounder up the middle that ended up a Scutaro error and then that diving grab by Ellsbury. Berkman didn’t hit the ball badly tonight.
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i think Berkman will be fine, I would still like to see Kevin long to tinker with his stance and having Berkman use his lower half more in his swing.
Javy, AL and Grandy all suffer from lack of self-confidence, it’s written all over them.
CC and Andy carry this team in that regard.
As for Javy, you can’t win with 87mph heat. I don’t think he touched 90 all night. His stuff looked slow and fat over the plate.
It’s too late to rebuild him. He’s basically a junk baller who once every 4 starts finds a good fastball.
You can’t start him in the playoffs.
SJ is right. You all better stop bashing AJ and start really pulling for him. We need him. He has the capacity, at least, to shut a team down.
Yea I think Berkman is going to be fine. He’s hit several balls hard right at people since he came over. I’m not really worried about him.
I think Berkman will be OK after he settles down a bit and sees more AL pitching. Being in the Astros viewing market, for a while I had no choice but to watch their feed on the local station and have always enjoyed watching him.
Cashmoney
I have to finally agree with you. Javy is mentally weak and his stuff is average. He failed with the Yankees and Sox on the big stage. The postseason stats don’t lie.
At least Kevin Brown in his prime won some big games for the Padres what has Javy done in his career. This guy like A.J. have never reached their potential despite the stuff they have. Both of them lack a brain.
A positive from tonight besides Jeter continuing to heat up?
Our pen was great. They’ve been doing the job for awhile now and deserve props.
They are not going to abuse hughes.
They will concede the division first.
The problem with AJ and Javy is that they prolly read this blog and are shell-shocked.
GLove,
Tonight did it for me with Granderson.
The AB’ are just too weak.
Berkman has been here less than a week and you see his AB’s are improving.
Curtis has been here all year and they aren’t.
You aren’t seeing any quality in his AB’s right now and its too late to fix in season.
He has sit at this point, be a defensive replacement, and start in games against starters he has good numbers against.
Can’t be an everyday player anymore.
Gardner can play CF and Kearns can play LF.
Detroit was cutting payroll – I don’t believe Granderson is shot, but I do believe he needs a complete overhaul during the off-season; unfortunately that won’t help us now.
SJ, ok – I agree. The point is, though, they have to deal with his innings limits……..and if they think he could start in the post-season, they need to think about trying to keep him as fresh and sharp as possible (if it’s possible at all). I don’t envy the Yankees – I don’t know how they will do this.
I questioned AJ’s spot in the playoff rotation the other night, because Javy has really been getting the job done the past couple months, but I don’t think you can give Javy the ball in the playoffs now.
AJ is unpredictable, but really Javy is as well. At least with AJ it usually unravels in one inning and when a game is on the line in the playoffs you can get the BP up quickly.
Javy goes out there sometimes and just has absolutely nothing. Just pure slop.
He looked like he was pushing the ball to the plate tonight.
So are you guys saying the trade was a complete disaster and it will never work out?
Vasquez can’t beat a team over .500. Simple truth is he’s not that good. Onus on CC and AJ to pitch their best now.
GLove, I like AJ a lot and it personally kills me to kill him………….but I don’t trust him. Of course I’m rooting for him…….problem is, even if he goes on hot streak, he’s always one hitter away from imploding.
“As for Javy, you can’t win with 87mph heat. I don’t think he touched 90 all night. His stuff looked slow and fat over the plate”
See Scutaro’s 2nd inning double for evidence. A “fastball” high and tight and Scutaro turned on it easily.
Say Grandy got hurt.
If we brought up Colin Curtis and platooned him with Kearns in Left, it would be alright with me.
Can’t wait on Grandy too much longer.
He showed something a few weeks ago but , with the pickups, it might have hurt his confidence.
He’s sensitive and fragile like some others on the team, and you know who they are.
They don’t need to abuse Hughes and they won’t.
They also aren’t conceding winning over ANY player.
That’s not how it rolls in NY.
They need CC and AJ to step up the next two days. They did in this series last August and they are both capable of doing it again this weekend.
They are in a rough patch right now. Good teams get through it and prosper.
The Yankees are a good time and I expect them to grind through it.
In the meantime, they need to make some adjustments to the lineup and the games, especially big games, Vazquez pitches to make it easier to win games.
Betsy,
I respectfully disagree with you. I think Detroit was playing “we’re cutting payroll” in order to rid themselves of Granderson.
What did they do once they cut his payroll? They gave it to Damon.
He couldn’t hit lefties and I think they knew his game was falling apart outside of the HR’s he could hit.
He hit 30 HR’s in Detroit last year in a field known as a pitchers park.
In Yankee stadium with a friendly RF porch he has 10 so far.
He needs to be benched and Joe needs to find some other options for the OF because right now Granderson is an automatic out who couldn’t work out a walk unless it were intentional.
gotta beat Lackey tomorrow
“I don’t think Javy is weak. I just think he can’t adjust to his declining FB velo.”
I do as well, at least not yet. It takes time to figure out how to pitch differently than you always have. He’s done a fairly good job of it this year but he just had nothing tonight….he got by on smoke and mirrors and some bugs bunny changeups and curveballs for awhile but it was matter of time really. The style of pitching that he’s used in the past just doesn’t mesh with his current stuff unless he has excellent command of his pitches and he didn’t tonight.
@SJ44 One game doesn’t exactly prove javy can;t pitch in the postseason. aside form this game he has been our best starter not named CC. I’ll be honest and say i would trust javy more in a big game than AJ. The error today really screwed his rhythm and other wise could have gone 7 with 3er.
Also on grandy, he’s not as bad as you think is and is overall a better hitter than Kearns. He’s been a bit unlucky this year…despite having a great line drive rate his avg is much lower than it should be despite hitting a lot of line drives (they aren;t finding holes) plus he has a lot of big hits for us this year.
Jeremy August 6th, 2010 at 11:04 pm
Cashmoney
I have to finally agree with you.
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what ? you mean you normally don’t LOL
3 defeats in 4 home games, 5 in 7. Right now, this team sucks. They should be pitching better and hitting better. This sure ain’t the 2009 Yankees.
A choice between AJ and Javy is a no brainer.
You have years invested in AJ.
Javy will be gone next year. They will find another 5th starter.
He will not even be on the ALDS roster.
Cervelli might have dropped the ball, but Javy gave away the game.
He spit the bit, not Cervy, as George would have said.
I wanted to give Javy the benefit of the doubt but the sample size is too big now. He even failed with the White Sox in the ALDS against the Rays in 2008.
Ozzie was right when he said he was mentally weak.
“Dunn has hit 2 homers against Kershaw.”
Dunn is on my fantasy team and I couldn’t love him more!!!
FWIW remember that Grandy was on the DL for a while. Since I never give up on a player until after the bell tolls, I will stay in Grandy’s corner. Don’t forget that the guy plays in the field as well as comes up to the plate.
Okay, dats all.
GLove, Cash is a smart dude – I just refuse to think this guy is done
What exactly has shown Granderson to be sensitive or fragile? Armchair psychoanalysis is pretty weak. I don’t think he is getting benched at this point either. In case people haven’t noticed Gardner is also struggling right now, and Kearns is not an upgrade over either guy.
Cashmoney
No ! LOL !
I wanted to give Javy a second chance but the facts are getting in the way of that.
“This sure ain’t the 2009 Yankees.”
You’re right. The 2009 Yankees went 0-8 against the Sux in their first 8 meetings. The 2010 Yanks did not.
Swing and miss stuff wins in the post-season.
The Yankees have 3 swing and miss starting pitchers. CC, AJ, and Hughes.
They have a guy in Andy who knows how to win post-season games without complete swing and miss stuff.
Do the math…..no room for Vazquez in the post-season rotation.
Its a game of constant adjustments.
Right now, if Vazquez can beat the bad teams he pitches against, and not kill the bullpen in his starts against good teams, which will most likely be losses, its the best we can hope for.
The bullpen is coming around, which is a HUGE positive.
Jeter is swinging the bat better. Another HUGE positive.
They are going to have to figure out what to do with Granderson. IMO, they need to cut down his PT dramatically.
Cervelli and Posada? We are going to have to live with Cervelli 3-4 days a week the rest of the way because I think Jorge is hurting more than what’s being said publicly.
When’s the last time Granderson did anything positive like steal a base?
I can’t even remember him really contributing other than the HR he hit on the west coast in interleague play.
I’ve seen Buchholz unravel after errors multiple times this season, including a game against the Rays and a game against the Yankees too. I’m really just SO surprised everyone on this blog thinks everything on the Red Sox, a third place team, is totally better than everything on the Yankees.
Get some perspective.
Meanwhile, this game had NO juice.
Did not feel like Yankees-RedSox.
“# Jeremy August 6th, 2010 at 11:13 pm
I wanted to give Javy the benefit of the doubt but the sample size is too big now. He even failed with the White Sox in the ALDS against the Rays in 2008.
Ozzie was right when he said he was mentally weak.
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ha I was thinking about that Ozzie comment during the game.
okay there’s a lot of dumb stuff written today after a loss
He scored the winning run against TB in the first game after the ASB & hit a game winning HR in Cleveland
“He looked like he was pushing the ball to the plate tonight.”
He was….it was like taking a time machine back to April. He was dropping his shoulder and pitching were flattening out and sailing arm side on him. Hopefully it was just a one night thing because he’s really been pretty good since then.
The thing with AJ is that he can go out and dominate on any given night. I think in the playoffs, against good lineups you have to take the guy who has that capability even if he’s prone to clunkers.
I agree about his stuff. It just to easy to hit and lacks movement. When David Cone had less velocity at the end of his Yankee years he was still able to pitch really good.
Grandy just seems like too nice a guy, if that can be said.
“3 defeats in 4 home games, 5 in 7. Right now, this team sucks.”
Yes that’s generally what happens when you’re 2-5 in your last 7 games.
Granderson hasn’t been unlucky this year. He’s been awful.
No, he’s not a better hitter than Austin Kearns this year. Not by a long shot.
AJ Burnett saved the Yankees season last year in Game 2 of the WS.
As inconsistent as he can be, he has proven he can win big games for this team.
Name me three big games Javy Vazquez has won for the Yankees, and you can’t count a 3 pitch relief outing against Boston earlier in the year.
One guy has swing and miss stuff. The other guy doesn’t and has a history of imploding in big games.
AJ is the better pitcher and he will be in the post-season rotation.
If Grandy could actually get on base, he might be able to steal occasionally.
Do the math…..no room for Vazquez in the post-season rotation.
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No need for him on the roster with the pen being strong.
“When David Cone had less velocity at the end of his Yankee years he was still able to pitch really good.”
Did you see the 2000 season?
“I’m really just SO surprised everyone on this blog thinks everything on the Red Sox, a third place team, is totally better than everything on the Yankees.
Get some perspective.”
Becca – not everyone.
Betsy,
This isn’t on Cashman. Like I said, he did the right thing. You had to make that trade on paper. I don’t blame him.
No one expected Granderson to play like this. He’s a terrible hitter right now. There’s nothing there to be encouraged by.
Joe should have made him bunt tonight and trusted Cervelli to try to get a run in early in the game.
Lots of bluster and big sweeping statements, pretty laughable stuff. Team is in a slump plus it’s a tough part of the schedule, losses happen. But it’s easier to post about benching guys and making psychiatric evaluations of players I guess.
Vazquez had some swings and misses with his off speed pitches but his problem is his fastball. He isn’t throwing hard and his fastball is straight with no movement on it. He gets killed by lefties hitting homeruns because he misses too often over the plate and they kill his 88 mph fastball. They have to hope that AJ some how steps up On Sunday. With the offense struggling the starters need to be better.
Joe doesn’t play little ball. Not one bit.
This is a station to station team playing for the big inning.
I’m really just SO surprised everyone on this blog thinks everything on the Red Sox, a third place team, is totally better than everything on the Yankees.
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Very few people on this blog are concerned about or with the Red Sox.
As SJ said in the last thread the Yankees need to worry about themselves right now.
The Red Sox have nothing to do with the vast majority of the discussion on this blog.
Just so happens they played the Sox tonight.
Jeremy
As a baseball man , despite Ozzie’s occasional (well, not so occasional) outbursts, he is, pretty much a player’s manager. when someone like Ozzie say something about a player in such clear context, it kinda makes you perks up and listen. Again, this is the man who manager javy for 3-4 seasons and pretty much witness all his starts. There is something to it . well, there is also factual number of his 2008 and 2004 playoff stats. now you take that javy and fast forward for another 2 years with diminishing stuffs, it’s not hard to picture that things won’t be anything easier this year.
becca
Yes I did. He also had less velocity in 1998 and 1999 and was a big game pitcher. A guy who knew how to pitch. And if I recall Cone was injured in 2000 so he wasn’t that effective and he had to move to the pen.
Girardi simply won’t cut Granderson’s PT.
Granderson post all-star break:
.267/.328/.811
Gardner post all-star break:
.184/.344/.609
200 point difference in OPS in favor of the proven vet.
Not happening.
If Girardi jumps to the Cubs, who would be a good candidate to replace him?
Anybody?
It could happen.
Well I shouldn’t say worry because that makes it sound really negative.
I should have said the Yankees just need to concern with themselves.
The Red Sox are a slim afterthought.
LGY August 6th, 2010 at 11:22 pm
I’m really just SO surprised everyone on this blog thinks everything on the Red Sox, a third place team, is totally better than everything on the Yankees.
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I think Sox starting pitching staff is definitely on par with the Yanks (with Pettite), if not better.
That’s the problem with having both Granderson and Cervelli in the lineup at the same time.
A bunt is a good move in that situation.
Unfortunately, Cervelli is hitting .190 since May 31, making that move risky.
Joe is probably hoping Granderson can hit a mistake somewhere.
Its why I don’t think you can play both of these guys in the same lineup any longer. You gotta break them up.
I watch every game. I don’t buy the “unlucky” stuff. That’s stathead nonsense.
He hasn’t hit “unlucky” line drives this year. He barely hits the ball hard.
His HR’s are hit hard. Other than that, he either K’s or hits weak grounders.
He hasn’t been an unlucky hitter. He’s been a bad hitter this year and I don’t think the Yankees can afford to carry his bat everyday in the lineup any longer.
Perhaps if Posada was 100%, I’d feel differently. However, he’s not and if Cervelli has to play, Granderson has to sit, IMO.
If not, then the bottom of the order is basically a NL BA and that ain’t good.
This isn’t about losing to the Red Sox tonight. I could care less about the Red Sox. They’re 6 back in the loss column. We win tomorrow and tonight’s victory is rendered moot.
To me, this is about certain players who have gotten enough rope already.
I’m more patient than I used to be because I realize players have slumps.
When they never come out of them like Granderson, I lose my patience.
Especially when we traded 3 solid pieces for him.
He’s a bad baseball player right now. Colin Curtis put together better at bats than him.
Girardi isn’t going anywhere.
Tony Pena
“As SJ said in the last thread the Yankees need to worry about themselves right now.
The Red Sox have nothing to do with the vast majority of the discussion on this blog.
Just so happens they played the Sox tonight.”
Oh agreed the Yankees need to worry about themselves but every time I come here I have to hear about how the Red Sox offense is soooo terrifying and scary and the Yankees’ offense isn’t that good (when we’ve scored more runs than them) and posts like the one where people go on about Javy vs. Buchholz’s mental toughness or whatever.
Cashmoney
I think even Torre questioned Javy as well.
The guy had a good year with the White Sox in 2008 and then imploded in the ALDS against the Rays.
So we are not talking about 2004.
Again, better track record, proven vet, 200 point higher OPS since the ASB.
Granderson is staying put.
Right now Girardi might feel he has enough hitting without Grandy’s bat strictly counting on him to play a decent CF.
The key is Posada. If he can’t play everyday, we are in trouble.
The Yankees could have played the Royals tonight and this discussion on this blog would likely be the same tonight.
It really has nothing to do with the Sox.
CR9 and his multiple personalities take up 95% of the “worried” posts about the Red Sox on this blog.
I do think the Red Sox have a better Starting rotation, not a better lineup. Do I think they’ll get back in the race? probably not but a bad weekend would not be good for the Yankees
Trisha, enough, u are just like the people who are always complaining only it’s the opposite with u. Take off the blinders for the love of God. Of course the Yanks still have a really good team. But they have issues right now. Vazquez is weak willed with mediocre stuff. Where did the strikeouts go? He’s scared in big games and can’t be counted on. He’s not a winner. Granderson and cervelli need their playing time reduced drastically. I’d rather have Moeller than Cervelli at this point. This team needs to wake up, they’re better than this.
SJ, he has been awful; are you giving up on him overall or just for this year?
Either way, I don’t see Girardi benching him…..and I still think Javy will start in the playoffs.
becca,
Sorry didn’t see your response before writing my 11:28 post.
The point about CR9 stands though.
@ SJ44 he has a 23.5% Line drive percentage well above league avg..get you’re facts straight. but his BABIP on them is ridiculously low. that’s all about luck
And this is not about the Red Sox because they will be playing golf in Oct.
This is about some players not playing to their potential. And yes I think we have the right to question how tough Javy and Burnett are. Because so far it doesn’t look good.
and I still think Javy will start in the playoffs.
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Based on what? What is your line of thought?
Javy will be in Game 4 if necessary in the ALDS and Game 4 in the ALCS and WS if they get that far.
2-3 starts for Javy.
Hughes will be in the pen.
This is one game in August.
Becca, sorry, but I don’t think the offense is that good………They score in bunches at times, but mostly they go into huge funks. Also, Buchholz had a problem when runners were on base – now he doesn’t and he’s having a great year. What’s wrong with saying that, esp. when Javy imploded tonight?
GLove, for this year – I can’t disagree. As I said, though, I don’t see Joe making drastic moves. For one, he’s loyal; for another, I don’t think he’s that creative.
Javy wont be on the roster for the ALDS>
Hughes will get a start.
These are our home games we are throwing away like confetti right now. Think other teams like the Rangers will be so benevolent? This defeat tonight against a team minus Youkilis and Pedroia makes me want to puke.
I’m not ready to give up on Granderson as a player but I do agree that its starting to “get late, early” this season. He’s not having good AB’s against any kind of pitcher right now and while I think he can and will again, you have to think about the present when it starts getting this time of year.
If Girardi starts Javy in the ALDS then you can just book an automatic bad pitching performance on that day.
I rather have Hughes pitch.
Jeremy,
I question AJ less because he delivered for us last year. I know the question is how long do we let him off the hook for his past accomplishments here, but he did pitch well in a World Series game and help this team win a title.
SJ44
If Granderson keeps playing like he has for the rest of the year, do you think they will rework him in the off season or find someone new?
Mick, I don’t think Joe would have the guts to pitch a basically first year starting pitcher over a veteran………
It is definitely not a good homestand so far
Betsy, I do.
Javy is gone next year and it isn’t even a crap shoot between he and Javy as pitchers.
I give the ball to Phil, sit Javy down and rely on the pen.
“Becca, sorry, but I don’t think the offense is that good………They score in bunches at times, but mostly they go into huge funks. ”
That’s the case with every team. There is no team that scores like 5+ runs every night. MOSTLY they go into huge funks? C’mon, you’re better than that. They lead MLB in runs scored, what else do you want?
I’d rather fail with Phil and see what he can do then use a washed up gone next year Javy and wait for him to implode.
I can’t argue with the points made for AJ……..and Blake, I agree as well. I still think the real Granderson is in there somewhere, but he’s a mess now and he can’t be fixed until the off-season. I just hope Joe is creative enough to figure something out.
G. Love
I have to agree with you. I put both of them together because they have similar issues but A.J. does have better stuff and he did pitch great in game 2 of the World Series.
Give him the ball over Javy. I would put Javy in the pen.
The pen is overstocked and underrated.
There will be no room there for Phil or Javy.
We have enough long guys who have done it before.
Javy will not be on the ALDS roster.
No need for a 5th starter. 4 is enough.
Keep playing with your stats. Hes not unlucky. He’s a bad hitter right now andchas been all year.
Here is the problem with playing the stat game.
He’s not a line drive hitter. That’s not his game.
He is a dramatic flyball pull hitter.
Meaning, if he isn’t pulling the ball in the air, he isn’t an effective hitter.
He hadn’t hit the ball hard all year. His OBP is ridiculously low. He isn’t an aggressive baserunner.
The Yankees acquired a guy they thought had above average pull power, ideal for YS, and above average speed. Ideal for the way Girardi wants to play.
Instead, they got a guy with minimal power, low OBP, who doesn’t run much anymore.
That’s not being unlucky. That’s a guy having a very bad year.
Bret,
Granderson is already sitting against lefties for Kearns.
If he keeps this up, it’s only a matter of time before he sits against everybody.
I hope I don’t see a 1st inning homerun by the Yankees tomorrow. Instead some runs in innings 2-5 would be nice. It seems like after the 1st inning is nap time for the offense.
Becca, maybe it’s just I’m only following the Yankees; perhaps if I were following the Rays or Angels or whomever, I would feel the same way. The Yankees have great players, but most of them are having off years…….it’s just a fact. Maybe Jeter is starting to turn it around – Alex definitely needs to. I do think Granderson and Cervelli in the lineup are too much. I miss Jorge when he’s not there.
AJ’s upside is the reason he will pitch.
Other than Andy or CC, they all can implode.
Mick, although I’m skeptical about Phil at this point – not about his innate talent, just about other things………..I can’t disagree. I hope he makes it easy for Joe by pitching well for the next few weeks.
Betsy
I know this is a sensitive topic because of how you have been treated in the past and PLEASE believe me when I say I’m not trying to start anything, but I have to know. At the beginning of the year there wasn’t a bigger supporter of Hughes to be found than you. Now you seem on the fence about him. What has changed your mind?
Bret,
Girardi doesn’t play the veteran game.
He has no loyalty to giving Vazquez a start.
Hughes helped him win a WS last year and is one of his 3 best starting pitchers.
Unless Vazquez dramatically changes course, there is no way Girardi is starting him in a post-season game unless he has to because one of the other starters get hurt.
“Becca, maybe it’s just I’m only following the Yankees; perhaps if I were following the Rays or Angels or whomever, I would feel the same way.”
That’s about it. I don’t follow any team other than the Yankees passionately, but people really seem to lack perspective in general.
I don’t disagree that a lot of players are having down years. But the whole DOOOOOOMED outlook, I find very annoying. I suspect I’m not alone.
Gnite everyone. Despite it all, the Yanks are still in first and a win tomorrow cancels out tonight. Need the big man to be tha man tomorrow.
CC will win for his new baby boy tmw, nite all.
The sad thing about Vasquez is we might not be able to offer him arbitration at his current salary.
He’d probably accept it. It’s another Abreu situation. You can almost forget the picks for him.
He’s strictly an NL pitcher so the question is, is there an NL team who will give him the guaranteed money and years he thinks he’s worth?
Maybe.
KPB, I still support him………I supported him for the past few years when few did. I just think he has a lot more to work on than I thought…….
@sj44 jesus you are arguing with the numbers? you’re an idiot. yeah he;s struggling but he has been hitting line drives at a decent rate. you forget the guy missed a month+ due to injuries and hitting .260+ since the all star break. oh yeah another number for you Arod vs lefties.207 which is lower than grandy’s .214
GLove, that’s a good point -I’d be scared to offer him arb now.
You would have to break down the numbers on the Yankee offense probably something like week to week to get a really clear picture on how “consistent” they are, but I think there are real reasons to think they are inconsistent.
We talked on here earlier this season how much talent is concentrated on the Rays and Yankees compared to the rest of the league. They have better teams than whole divisions put together.
They are simply comparatively so much better than almost every other team in the AL on a talent basis.
The problem with their offense though is that they are really hurting in a few spots with Alex, Posada, and Jeter slumping and battling through injuries.
Cano, Swisher, and to a lesser extent Gardner have really been the only guys in the lineup who have had any sort of consistency whatsoever this year.
Tex has been hot lately and Gardner has not so it has been Tex, Cano, and Swisher.
They are extremely dependent on those 3 players night in and night out. The rest of the offense just comes and goes and is out of the lineup much more than ideally.
The thing is though, an offense with Cano, Tex, and Swisher carrying it on a nightly basis is still leaps and bounds better than basically every other team in baseball. When you factor in the potential of Alex, Posada, Jeter, etc who are certainly contributing, but inconsistently you can see why they have the top scoring offense in the AL.
However, that extreme dependence on those 3 players really does hurt them on a lot of nights.
Those 3 can’t do it every single night. Baseball is too much about failure to have them be front and center every night.
This team’s offense is definitely prone to inconsistency despite have the highest run total. Probably moreso than other teams because most other teams are more evenly distributed.
They can get very top heavy at times.
Granderson has been a huge disappointment. He is suppose to be an allstar caliber player. He doesn’t have much pressure on him either because he is hitting the bottom part of the outfield. And by far this season he has been the least productive of the 3 outfielders.
Javy has turned it around but I trust Hughes more in a big spot. The good news is the bullpen has been pitching outstanding since the tampa series. If Joba can get back into form that will be huge for the team because they will not feel the need to put Hughes in the bullpen for the postseason.
The team isn’t doomed.
But the team is under performing in areas and has had a bad couple of weeks here.
Positives are the pen (including Joba), Jeter heating up, Swisher and Cano staying consistent, Tex heating up, Arod getting the 600 monkey off his back, Berkman showing some life in his bat (especially against a hard thrower like Bard).
Negatives are Granderson, Javy, AJ and Cervelli.
Gardner is somewhere in the middle right now as he can’t seem to buy a hit all of a sudden.
Definitely more positives on this team than negatives.
That said, the negatives are the most focused on because on they’ve been bad a lot this season. Granderson especially more than any of the others.
I hope Joe sits Granderson for the weekend and uses him in pinch running and defensive replacement duties. Maybe that kind of clear demotion lights a fire in the guy. Because all season long, I’ve seen zero fire from him.
“bottom part of the outfield”
I meant bottom part of the order
Sb prime, shut up. Anyone who even has a little leaguer’s knowledge could tell u that granderson has been terrible this season. Awful obp, ridiculous strikeout rate, can’t hit lefties so save his life, pulls everything, and idc what uzr says. His routes r inconsistent and on top of that he has a terrible arm. Overall, he has undoubtedly cost the yankees wins this season, amazing considering the player the yanks thought they were getting.
Betsy
Makes sense. Curiosity just got the better of me. What do you think his final numbers will be. I’m thinking he’ll end up with 15-17 wins.
Basically the Yankees all this season have had 1 or more players in this lineup on a nightly basis that were almost automatic outs.
The names have changed, but there have always been usually 2 players that just couldn’t buy a hit.
Tex at the beginning, Cervelli, Granderson, Jeter, etc.
When you have multiple seemingly automatic outs in your lineup on a nightly basis, consistency is going to be an issue.
When those players are just putting together abysmal at bats at the same time like Cervelli and Granderson recently, it is even worse.
LGY, great post – that sums it up very well.
GLove, agreed – except about the fire. I don’t need to see sparks flying from Granderson; he’s trying and he cares – he’s just not doing well.
@theREALkevin if you’re still using little league numbers to tell you about stuff then there’s a problem.
@G love, i don’t think Yankees Brass will offer Javy arbitration , its 50/50 whether or not he will accept it or not.
KPB, 17 is probably asking a lot – 15 or 16 maybe. His curve is problematical……much more so than I thought. Overall, Phil’s secondary pitches need a lot of work………and he should incorporate at 2-seamer. He gives up way too many HRs, esp. at YS.
LGY
Why and how would I come on under different names every minute to post nonsense about the sox?
Try using your brain for a moment – if you have one. With all the injuries the Red Sox have, it will be very difficult for the sox to make up ground. I am not worried about the Red Sox.
And why would I anyway, aren’t I a Red Sox fan – according to you?!
This was one game, a fairly unimportant game in the long run – except possibly for Javier.
Yeah prime, GMs don’t care about avg, obp, slugging, or splits. Ur right. Dumbass.
I notice this team has a world of trouble when the opposing pitcher doesn’t walk batters…tonight is a great example. Tomorrow, in my mind, is a must win. Not because of the standings, but because of the pitching match-ups on Sunday and Monday. Not trying to be a jerk, just saying that tomorrow is critical.
“Why and how would I come on under different names every minute to post nonsense about the sox?”
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Because you are a Governor of Red Sox Nation that was sent here to disrupt this great Yankee blog.
There is nothing more annoying to Yankee fans than someone posting about the Sox 24/7.
Only a Red Sox fan could keep their mind on that team as much as you do.
Betsy
17 was on the high end. Since he has 13 already I think he may still have time to get 2 more. And you never know he might get more, considering no one thought he would have this many at this point in the season in the Spring. He does need to work on his secondary pitches, but I think he’ll figure it out in due time.
@theREALkevin just saying there’s other statistics to look at like how much contact he;s making, if he’s hitting line drives, grounders etc. Baseball has moved forward form those stats and there are other numbers to look at beside the most basic ones
KPB, definitely not – I thought he’d be fine for a #5, but 13 wins at this point ? No way, lol.