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More HOPE Week pictures

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Aug 19, 2010 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

According to the Yankees press release, eight players were supposed to be on the field for this afternoon’s game with kids from the Beautiful People program, which gets disabled and special needs kids into team sports. Andy Pettitte, Jorge Posada, A.J. Burnett, Phil Hughes, Lance Berkman, Javier Vazquez, Boone Logan and Austin Kearns were supposed to be there along with Yankees coaches Dave Eiland, Mick Kelleher and Rob Thomson and former Yankee David Cone.

Joe Girardi was also there. So was Alex Rodriguez. Joba Chamberlain was running around having more fun than anyone. There were probably others who I missed. The Yankees seemed to be having a great time, and it was all happening while the writers were finishing their stories in the press box. It was really great to watch the Yankees help — and sometimes be told not to help — these kids play baseball.

Here are some Associated Press photos along with three AP photos from yesterday’s HOPE Week event with Mohamed Kamara at the United Nations.

Yankees HOPE Week Baseball

Yankees HOPE Week Baseball

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Tigers Yankees Baseball

Jorge Posada, A.J. Burnett, Andy Pettitte and Joba Chamberlain participating in today’s HOPE Week baseball game.

Yankees HOPE Week Baseball

Yankees HOPE Week Baseball

Yankees HOPE Week Baseball

Derek Jeter and Curtis Granderson at the UN podium,  group shot of the Yankees with Fatmata Kamara, left, Mohamed Kamara, center, and Sierra Leone’s ambassador to the United Nations Shekou M. Touray

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517 Responses to “More HOPE Week pictures”

  1. MTU August 19th, 2010 at 9:27 pm

    Curtis. What’s up with the glasses. Is that your Clark Kent mode ? :)

  2. CR9 August 19th, 2010 at 9:30 pm

    What great pictures of the kids. Favorite has to be AJ and the little girl!

    Then, how awesome are Thamesie and Grandy in those pics!! Unbelievably hot, handsome, and astonishing!

  3. Betsy August 19th, 2010 at 9:32 pm

    Wow, what fantastic pictures; they’re all adorable, but the AJ one is priceless, lol

  4. Betsy August 19th, 2010 at 9:33 pm

    The Jorge pic is very touching. Grandy looks great in glas ses

  5. Tom in N.J. August 19th, 2010 at 9:33 pm

    The MLB network was interviewing today during this. It looked as if everybody was having a great time.

  6. CR9 August 19th, 2010 at 9:33 pm

    Bx is Burning August 19th, 2010 at 9:30 pm

    theknicksblog (which I read, as a fan of the team) could learn a thing or two from this blog in terms of organization, grammar and syntax.

    __

    I agree. And the comments structure is absurd, but Tommy Dee actually loves the Knicks – and has watched every Knicks game for the past 25 years. That’s something I can’t even boast. And he even recognizes the anti-New York media bias!

  7. Tom in N.J. August 19th, 2010 at 9:34 pm

    The MLB network was interviewing Joba today…

  8. Betsy August 19th, 2010 at 9:35 pm

    http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play......id=9311523

    Hughes and Thomson at the Hockey HOF………there are other videos on Yankees.com (Swish in Central Park, Mussina in his home town)

  9. SJ44 August 19th, 2010 at 9:35 pm

    Pretty awesome stuff the Yankees are doing this week.

    Unforgettable life experiences for all involved.

  10. blake August 19th, 2010 at 9:36 pm

    Great pics. I hope the Yankees inspire other organizations in MLB and other sports to do similar things in the future.

  11. Tom in N.J. August 19th, 2010 at 9:36 pm

    Curtis looks a little like Malcom X from the pulpit…

  12. Betsy August 19th, 2010 at 9:41 pm

    I’m sorry I missed the MLB segment on this; hopefully they’ll replay it.

    The Yankees playes are getting a huge kick out of this – it’s such a great thing to see them as human beings and not just athletes. These kids love them………aww.

  13. CR9 August 19th, 2010 at 9:41 pm

    What a day! 9 hours of baseball today! This day could be a perfect 3 for 3, if the Angels hang on to win and the Rays win!

  14. Betsy August 19th, 2010 at 9:43 pm

    And why exactly do you want the Rays to win?

  15. MTU August 19th, 2010 at 9:44 pm

    That giant sucking sound being heard tonite at Fenway is the sound of the Red Sox season going down the drain. :)

  16. Betsy August 19th, 2010 at 9:46 pm

    More pics:

    http://www.stamfordadvocate.co.....622763.php

  17. MaineYankee August 19th, 2010 at 9:49 pm

    MTU

    I thought that was just Beckett opening his mouth.

  18. CB August 19th, 2010 at 9:50 pm

    So how is Josh Beckett an “ace” anymore?

    In fact, why do people keep referring to the Sox rotation as such a strength, as a reason they can be so dangerous when Beckett has been so bad this season.

    He’s been truly terrible this season.

  19. MTU August 19th, 2010 at 9:50 pm

    Maine-

    They have been circling the drain for weeks.

  20. SAS August 19th, 2010 at 9:51 pm

    MTU,

    It’s one game for Boxton. As long as they have life….ugh

  21. Eric in UWS August 19th, 2010 at 9:52 pm

    Becketts back looks like its got to be still hurting. He’s not finishing his pitches at all and his fastball’s not really exploding through the zone.

    Couldn’t happen to a better jerk.

  22. MTU August 19th, 2010 at 9:52 pm

    SAS-

    If you chop off the head of a chicken it still runs around for a while.

  23. SAS August 19th, 2010 at 9:52 pm

    Boston

  24. MaineYankee August 19th, 2010 at 9:53 pm

    Even though we dislike the RS it’s hard not to give them credit for the work they have done for the Jimmy Fund.

    They have been doing this for a long time and have raised alot of money for it.

    The players have also been involved with the patients at the Dana Farber Institute.

  25. SAS August 19th, 2010 at 9:54 pm

    MTU,

    I have to admit, much as I enjoy it, this time of year to the end, I get nervous.

  26. ZMAN August 19th, 2010 at 9:54 pm

    And the Sux load the bases with no outs in the 8th… this one is far from over with Mike Soscia and crew at the helm… will he bring in Shields next to put out the fire?

  27. Carl August 19th, 2010 at 9:54 pm

    Poor Mets

  28. SAS August 19th, 2010 at 9:55 pm

    Maine,

    My guess is most pro teams are very charitable.

  29. SJ44 August 19th, 2010 at 9:55 pm

    Josh Beckett may be the most overrated pitcher in the game.

    His entire “rep” has been made in two post-seasons.

    The classic “small sample sizes” misreading of a players skill.

    The Red Sox have four more years of Beckett and Lackey on their books.

    Good luck with that.

  30. MTU August 19th, 2010 at 9:55 pm

    SAS-

    If you want to be nervous be nervous about the Rays.

  31. trisha - true pinstriped blue August 19th, 2010 at 9:56 pm

    So there are TWO tarheels here! Well all I can say is that tarheels must be lovely people because both have been very gracious posters. I did think that Tarheel in NY was the same as our other tar, just spending some time in NY!

    :)

    Under the rubric of “desperate people do desperate things” both Ellsbury and Pedroia were rushed back sooner than they were ready, Ellsbury because he was being called out by the media and some of his teammates, Pedroia because he wanted to come back badly. I heard that Ellsbury might be out for the rest of the season, and Pedroia may have reinjured his foot.

    To quote (I believe it was) Pepitone, I wasn’t afraid of them when they were healthy, I’m sure not afraid of them now.

    ****************

    GB, you’re one of my top guys here, you know that. So on the Clemens matter we will just agree to disagree. Everything Clemens did from the time his name came up screamed guilty to me. He lied about not knowing about the Mitchell Report and being asked to meet with the committee (his agents said he was informed, he said they never told him, then his story changed to his attorney advising him not to talk to the committee…) and from there his actions were those of, as they say, a guilty man. Although I have no difficulty believing McNamee, thankfully there were other witnesses testifying to things that Clemens seems to have “misremembered”. The fact that the federal court in Houston refused to reinstate Clemens’ defamation suit against McNamee, but a federal court in New York is hearing McNamee’s defamation suit against Clemens tells you all you need to know about whose story is considered more believable.

    IMO Clemens’ Texas-size ego got in the way of common sense because even his attorneys counseled him against going on

  32. MaineYankee August 19th, 2010 at 9:56 pm

    CB

    I don’t remember who said it but someone said Beckett got alot of mileage from that one WS against the Yankees.

  33. MTU August 19th, 2010 at 9:58 pm

    Maine-

    Beckett has also gotten a lot of mileage out of the condom he wears over his head.

  34. Tom in N.J. August 19th, 2010 at 9:58 pm

    43 million per year tied up in Dice K Lackey and Beckett.

  35. Bronx Jeers August 19th, 2010 at 9:58 pm

    # MTU August 19th, 2010 at 9:27 pm

    Curtis. What’s up with the glasses. Is that your Clark Kent mode ? :)

    ——————————————————————————————————————–

    I’m just glad he finally got rid of that kryptonite necklace he’s been wearing for 4 months.

  36. trisha - true pinstriped blue August 19th, 2010 at 9:59 pm

    The ending should have read

    Andy Pettitte is probably considered far more believable than Clemens (remember Pettitte testified that Clemens told him he had used HGH…)

    IMO Clemens’ Texas-size ego got in the way of common sense because even his attorneys counseled him against going on 60 Minutes but he was not to be dissuededed. Talk about being your own worst enemy!

  37. MTU August 19th, 2010 at 10:00 pm

    Jeers-

    He paid a visit to the Crsytal Cave and found his strength again.

  38. MTU August 19th, 2010 at 10:01 pm

    Crystal. sorry. The typo King rules.

  39. Tom in N.J. August 19th, 2010 at 10:01 pm

    Global warming melted Fortress of Solitude?

    Also the lack of phone booths…

  40. JM August 19th, 2010 at 10:03 pm

    Was at the game today and at the end of the game we sat in our seats awhile longer and watched all the Hope Week kids come out onto the field to meet the players and play a game. It was really heartwarming to see the kids, some of them in wheelchairs, but all of them with huge smiles on their faces. Really puts everything into proper perspective. Hope Week is really amazing. Glad I got to see even a small part of it.

  41. MTU August 19th, 2010 at 10:03 pm

    Tom-

    You were right about the Malcolm X look.

  42. MaineYankee August 19th, 2010 at 10:04 pm

    SJ44

    I was really surprised that Boston resigned Beckett.

    It seems out of character for them.

    I expected they would let him become a FA.

    I’m not dissappointed they did sign him because I think it will turn out to be a bad contract.

  43. Carl August 19th, 2010 at 10:04 pm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=channel

    Hope Week roll call :)

  44. SonyBravo August 19th, 2010 at 10:05 pm

    I’m loving the Joba moments, today and with Jane Lang on Tuesday. Next time I’m exasperated and wondering what the heck goes on in his head when he pitches, I want to think of him bounding around like a big, affectionate, fun-loving kid. Great stuff.

  45. blake August 19th, 2010 at 10:05 pm

    “The Red Sox have four more years of Beckett and Lackey on their books.”

    Really rough, especially the Lackey deal. As much as I dislike Beckett, he probably still is a better pitcher than he’s been this season. He’s way overrated, but he’s better than this. Lackey though, I’m not so sure. He may just be this pitcher over the next 4 seasons….his stuff is average now and if he doesn’t have excellent command he’s going to get hit and hit hard.

  46. blake August 19th, 2010 at 10:06 pm

    “43 million per year tied up in Dice K Lackey and Beckett.”

    yuck

  47. Don August 19th, 2010 at 10:09 pm

    Pavano was pummeled tonight!

  48. RadioKev August 19th, 2010 at 10:09 pm

    SJ44,

    I will defend Beckett a bit on that one, it’s not like he was a fluke those two post seasons as you almost make it sound. He’s just lost it now and he definitely doesn’t show the desire to work and attain those heights again. However I would agree that anyone who rates him now as anything great is definitely overrating him.

  49. Bronx Jeers August 19th, 2010 at 10:09 pm

    Crystal. sorry. The typo King rules.

    ——————————————

    It’s hard typing in a straightjacket. The thorazine can’t help either I imagine. :wink:

  50. trisha - true pinstriped blue August 19th, 2010 at 10:10 pm

    And yes those pictures are beautiful. Beautiful men in the roles of true hero. Kind of makes you forget Mitre’s “raggedy” game…

    ;)

  51. MaineYankee August 19th, 2010 at 10:10 pm

    blake

    Beckett has been having trouble staying healthy for a full season for about three seasons now.

    The previous two years I think his trouble was during the playoffs which is supposed to be his time if you listen to some.

  52. MTU August 19th, 2010 at 10:11 pm

    The Sox were snakebitten this season.

    I have never understood the Sox-o-Phobia that seems to exist for some people.

    They win 2 championships in recent years and all of a sudden they’ve Morphed into the Yankees.

    That’s just not reality IMO.

  53. Tom in N.J. August 19th, 2010 at 10:12 pm

    Interview with Alex about HOPE Week

    http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play......id=7417714

  54. RayVT August 19th, 2010 at 10:12 pm

    The Red Sox were desperate! The Yanks have a loaded pitching staff & Tampa does too. The Sox gambled and IMO lost! The funny part is Ortiz & Beltre have been their best players this year & both will require the Sox to pony up even more. Their team is in a shambles right now! They have gone old, cheap & but expensive arms. Dice K, Lackey and Beckett have their best years behind them. Bucholtz has done well. They will try to shed players and evaluate the talent they have if they go on a losing spree the next couple of weeks! (I think they will be toast come Sept 1!)

  55. trisha - true pinstriped blue August 19th, 2010 at 10:13 pm

    Poor Fernando Rodney. He always looks so lost.

  56. Tom in N.J. August 19th, 2010 at 10:13 pm

    Here’s a bunch of HOPE Week videos:

    http://mlb.mlb.com/search/medi.....=Hope+Week

  57. CR9 August 19th, 2010 at 10:13 pm

    Beckett is not overrated. He’s been injured the past 3 seasons.

    /Gammons’ed

    :lol:

  58. MTU August 19th, 2010 at 10:14 pm

    Jeers-

    What can I say I’m Houdini but you know me too well.

    Enjoy surfing in Ecuador. You lucky devil. :)

  59. RayVT August 19th, 2010 at 10:14 pm

    Hello Trisha!

  60. trisha - true pinstriped blue August 19th, 2010 at 10:14 pm

    “I have never understood the Sox-o-Phobia that seems to exist for some people.

    They win 2 championships in recent years and all of a sudden they’ve Morphed into the Yankees.

    That’s just not reality IMO.”

    Me three.

    :)

  61. mernaloy August 19th, 2010 at 10:14 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue August 19th, 2010 at 10:10 pm
    And yes those pictures are beautiful. Beautiful men in the roles of true hero. Kind of makes you forget Mitre’s “raggedy” game…
    ___________________________________________

    So, the Yankees’ generosity to children validates your opinion of other people’s opinion of Sergio Mitre’s pitching today?

    That seems twisted, in a self-serving, sort of conniving way.

  62. trisha - true pinstriped blue August 19th, 2010 at 10:15 pm

    Hey Ray!!!

    :)

  63. CR9 August 19th, 2010 at 10:16 pm

    Does anyone have any idea why Torii got moved to RF?

    Is their CF this game, Bourjes (sp?) a stud prospect or something?

  64. trisha - true pinstriped blue August 19th, 2010 at 10:16 pm

    “So, the Yankees’ generosity to children validates your opinion of other people’s opinion of Sergio Mitre’s pitching today?

    That seems twisted, in a self-serving, sort of conniving way.”

    Y-A-W-N!!!!!

  65. MaineYankee August 19th, 2010 at 10:17 pm

    RayVT

    The RS have a club option for Ortiz next year for 12mil.

    I don’t think they will pick that up.

  66. CB August 19th, 2010 at 10:17 pm

    “43 million per year tied up in Dice K Lackey and Beckett.”

    It’s more than that in terms of the cost to the Red Sox.

    Dice K’s contract is deceptive because it doesn’t represent how much the sox invested in him.

    The Sox paid 103M guaranteed for Dice K. That’s their cost. Nearly half of which they had to front in lone lump sum which makes him more expensive than 103M in real dollars.

    So Dice K Lackey and Beckett, together will have cost the Sox slightly in excess of around 51M per year over the next 3 years.

  67. trisha - true pinstriped blue August 19th, 2010 at 10:18 pm

    “Beckett has been having trouble staying healthy for a full season for about three seasons now.”

    Definitely not at full strength. As much as I think he is a hayseed and a jerk, I also recognize that he has been a very good pitcher.

  68. CR9 August 19th, 2010 at 10:18 pm

    Once again, the Angels lose to the Red Sox. Oh wait, they didn’t, but only thanks to Hideki Matsui and Ervin Santana!

  69. rconn23 August 19th, 2010 at 10:18 pm

    I’ve never heard a phrase thrown around more than “Josh Beckett has the guts of a burglar”all based two playoff performances.

    Not so much anymore. He hasn’t pitched well in over a year.

  70. blake August 19th, 2010 at 10:19 pm

    I was curious:

    Career numbers,

    Player A: 109-70, ERA (3.93), WHIP (1.234), K/9 (8.5)
    Player B: 109-95, ERA (3.91), WHIP (1.311), K/9 (8.2)

    Name those players.

  71. JobaTipsHisCap August 19th, 2010 at 10:20 pm

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08.....tisan.html

    “Clemens drew attention because he issued forceful denials in a “60 Minutes” interview and a nationally televised news conference. ”

    what is this logic? OK, if I kill a guy and go quiet, then I won’t have to worry about anything?
    fxxk! This is how they spend taxpayer’s money. I am sick of it.

    I can’t wait for the market crash.

  72. MTU August 19th, 2010 at 10:20 pm

    Blake-

    Beckett and Burnett ?

  73. rconn23 August 19th, 2010 at 10:21 pm

    Beckett may have dealt with some injuries, but he’s not a terribly smart pitcher, and he loses his mechanics pretty easily.

    He’s still good, but he’s never been great.

  74. blake August 19th, 2010 at 10:21 pm

    MTU,

    correct…closer than you’d think according to the coverage of their careers.

  75. Carl August 19th, 2010 at 10:23 pm

    Ken Keltner is Andy Sonnanstien’s great uncle.

  76. trisha - true pinstriped blue August 19th, 2010 at 10:24 pm

    Josh Beckett – A

  77. MTU August 19th, 2010 at 10:25 pm

    Blake-

    Similar but different.

    AJ is a box of chocolates and Buckett is a bag of ……

  78. rconn23 August 19th, 2010 at 10:29 pm

    Beckett won’t sniff the Hall of Fame. He’s only 30, but is already on a downward cycle.

  79. MTU August 19th, 2010 at 10:31 pm

    Blake-

    Who’s your Plan B if we don’t get Lee ?

    What other top flight pitcher would you have cash go after ?

  80. mernaloy August 19th, 2010 at 10:32 pm

    And yes those pictures are beautiful. Beautiful men in the roles of true hero. Kind of makes you forget Trisha’s “raggedy” opinions…

    See how that works? Yankee’s are good, I like the Yankees, then…my opinions on all other subjects are also correct.

  81. Erica in NY August 19th, 2010 at 10:34 pm

    Wow. These pictures completely warm my heart

  82. GreenBeret7 August 19th, 2010 at 10:34 pm

    MTU August 19th, 2010 at 10:31 pm
    Blake-

    Who’s your Plan B if we don’t get Lee ?

    What other top flight pitcher would you have cash go after ?

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    Billingsley.

  83. MTU August 19th, 2010 at 10:35 pm

    GB-

    How about a lefty please ? Should have specified that.

  84. Swishalicious33 August 19th, 2010 at 10:35 pm

    Wow, the Angels finally beat Boston. I had to look outside and make sure the sky was still there.

  85. blake August 19th, 2010 at 10:36 pm

    MTU,

    lets not think like that ;). I don’t really see anyone else that will be available as a big priority after Cliff. If for some reason they lose out on Lee then I think you hope Andy comes back, and then slot maybe Nova in the 5 spot and go all out for Carl Crawford to improve the team in that way. JMO

  86. MTU August 19th, 2010 at 10:39 pm

    Blake-

    Unfortunately, we must think like that. Always have to have a Plan B.

    Let’s assume AP retires. What lefty do you target for the top of our rotation ?

  87. LGY August 19th, 2010 at 10:40 pm

    Was on vacation the past week. Yankees still in first place so that is good news. Did I miss anything exciting :) ?

    Anyone want to give me the quick update on how is Granderson’s new swing working for him?

  88. MTU August 19th, 2010 at 10:41 pm

    LGY-

    Great. :)

  89. CB August 19th, 2010 at 10:41 pm

    Beckett’s ERA is now up to 6.67.

    Could you imagine the reaction and panic of the yankee fanbase if a pitcher making huge money was pitching in the final third of the season to an ERA of 6.67?

    But the yankees rotation is a weakness while the Sox rotation is a strenght that will see them through.

    The Sox are perpetually “dangerous” because of Beckett’s ERA of 6.67 and Lackey’s ERA of 4.6?

    Yankee fans who perpetually keep saying things like “the Sox are dangerous, can’t forget about the Sox” would be in a frantic panic if the yankees had two guys like that making that kind of money pitching with those ERAs and not even giving the team a chance to compete.

  90. GreenBeret7 August 19th, 2010 at 10:41 pm

    MTU, there’s not much out there that’s left handed and available. Not getting Danks or Liriano. Not especially crazy about Sanchez and his control issues.

  91. blake August 19th, 2010 at 10:43 pm

    MTU,

    I don’t think there is one via free agency. Trade wise….I’m not sure whats out there….love to have Kershaw but doubt he’s available….

  92. MTU August 19th, 2010 at 10:44 pm

    GB-

    Maybe we make them available. Comprendo ?

    If we don’t get Lee and AP goes we need another anchor at the top of the rotation, preferrably a lefty.

  93. Yank 97 August 19th, 2010 at 10:44 pm

    Re-sign Javy Vazquez and give him steroids to get his velo. back.

  94. Tank August 19th, 2010 at 10:47 pm

    “The Sox are perpetually “dangerous” because of Beckett’s ERA of 6.67 and Lackey’s ERA of 4.6?

    Yankee fans who perpetually keep saying things like “the Sox are dangerous, can’t forget about the Sox” would be in a frantic panic if the yankees had two guys like that making that kind of money pitching with those ERAs and not even giving the team a chance to compete.

    AJ Burnett = Lackey in both contracts and performance.

  95. Jennifer August 19th, 2010 at 10:47 pm

    Laura Posada posted what I would assume are personal pictures from todays hope week. it is on her facebook page. Check them out.

  96. trisha - true pinstriped blue August 19th, 2010 at 10:48 pm

    “And yes those pictures are beautiful. Beautiful men in the roles of true hero. Kind of makes you forget Trisha’s “raggedy” opinions…

    See how that works? Yankee’s are good, I like the Yankees, then…my opinions on all other subjects are also correct.”

    Y-A-W-N!!!!

    ************************************

    JobaTips, no I think the theory is more this: if you kill a guy and call press conferences to deny you did it, you probably draw more attention to yourself than if you just shut up. Clemens insisted on going on 60 Minutes, insisted on calling a press conference, and insisted on testifying in front of Congress. No bounds to his ego unfortunately for him.

    If you want to refresh your memory on just what things ended up sinking his ship, read Shaughnessey’s article: http://www.boston.com/sports/b.....danforweb/

    And from the Times article:

    “On Thursday, Tom Davis, the former congressman from Virginia, recalled telling Clemens and his lawyers, “We’ll give you a chance to clear your name, but you don’t have to do this.” At the time, Davis was the ranking Republican on the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, which called the hearing.”

    “Davis, in a phone interview, said the committee probably would not have asked the Justice Department to investigate whether Clemens had lied if had not chosen to appear at the televised hearing. “If he let it go at the deposition level, I don’t think we would have referred it,” Davis said. “But when it’s high profile like that, you can’t let it go. And we didn’t.”

    “J. Keith Ausbrook, who was then the Republican counsel to the committee, said Republicans were merely trying to ensure that the hearing was fair, and that all sides of the story were told. What eventually persuaded Republicans that Clemens had lied, Ausbrook said, were the matching stories of McNamee and Andy Pettitte, Clemens’s friend and former teammate, who each described a conversation between the two about Clemens’s steroid use.

    Davis said Republicans went out of their way to be fair. “We were very defensive of Clemens and tried to give him every break,” he said. “But when it was over and we looked at the evidence, I said, ‘I think we ought to refer this thing.’ ”

    Oh well.

  97. LGY August 19th, 2010 at 10:49 pm

    MTU,

    Thanks! Just looked up that Grandy is hitting .304 with 3 HRs the past week. That is great!

    Also just checked out the boxscore from today. Nunez is up with the big club, Pena at 3rd, and Kearns at DH. Looks like I missed more than I thought ;)

  98. GreenBeret7 August 19th, 2010 at 10:50 pm

    MTU August 19th, 2010 at 10:44 pm
    GB-

    Maybe we make them available. Comprendo ?

    If we don’t get Lee and AP goes we need another anchor at the top of the rotation, preferrably a lefty.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    As long as he’s healthy and pitches like he did this year, Hughes will most likely be the #2 pitcher.

  99. MTU August 19th, 2010 at 10:50 pm

    GB/Blake-

    I guess we have to settle for a really good righty then.

    My choice is Josh Johnson. I give up what’s necessary if the need arises.

  100. hardwired7 August 19th, 2010 at 10:51 pm

    MTU August 19th, 2010 at 7:34 pm

    HardW-

    The Yankees version of the Killer B’s – Brackman and Betances

    ———————

    right on, MTU

    (I’ll add Manny Banuelos to the group)

  101. MTU August 19th, 2010 at 10:52 pm

    GB-

    I see what you are saying about Phil. But we still need a strong #3 then.

  102. trisha - true pinstriped blue August 19th, 2010 at 10:54 pm

    “Yankee fans who perpetually keep saying things like “the Sox are dangerous, can’t forget about the Sox” would be in a frantic panic if the yankees had two guys like that making that kind of money pitching with those ERAs and not even giving the team a chance to compete.”

    They would have the Yankees as far out of the postseason as you can get, yet they still believe the Sux with those pitchers in their rotation are still in the hunt.

    Go figure.

  103. MTU August 19th, 2010 at 10:54 pm

    LGY-

    Who said you could take a vacation w/o permission ?

    You’re still in the doghouse over Dejo but I’ll forget that for now.

  104. MTU August 19th, 2010 at 10:55 pm

    Wired-

    Man-Ban definitely belongs. Except sizewise. :)

  105. GreenBeret7 August 19th, 2010 at 10:55 pm

    I still believe that Pettitte will return for one last season. Add Burnett and a rookie stater, unless a Billingsley type or signing Lee. Not really a lot out there as a FA, so a trade is the choice.

  106. MTU August 19th, 2010 at 10:57 pm

    GB-

    I understand what you’re saying. Just playing the “what-if” game. :)

  107. blake August 19th, 2010 at 10:58 pm

    MTU,

    Hudson will be a FA and has thrown the bell pretty well this season…he may stay in Atlanta though. Could inquire on Matt Cain?

  108. GreenBeret7 August 19th, 2010 at 11:02 pm

    SF will want young pitching and a lot of it, middle infield help and a big bat

  109. MTU August 19th, 2010 at 11:02 pm

    Blake-

    GB mentioned Billingsley. I like JJ. You, Hudson or Cain.

    I like Cain but he would be just as tough to get as JJ don’t you think ?

    Therefore, JJ or Cain ?

  110. MTU August 19th, 2010 at 11:03 pm

    GB-

    It just so happens we could supply that. ;)

  111. SAS August 19th, 2010 at 11:03 pm

    If one listens to the FAN in the morning, you would know that the Mutts really need Lee. They need Lee for hours and hours.

  112. LGY August 19th, 2010 at 11:06 pm

    MTU,

    Don’t worry. I cleared it with the powers that be at lohud ;)

    Dejomania was kind of nice while it lasted, right… :???:

  113. MTU August 19th, 2010 at 11:08 pm

    LGY-

    Never mind all that. Help me, Gb, and blake figure out which pitcher the Yanks should target if we don’t get Lee and AP retires.

    If you come up with a good suggestion you’re off the hook. :)

  114. Cashmoney August 19th, 2010 at 11:09 pm

    good evening peeps
    CB i personally will never count out the Red Sox until they are down and out. I still think they have a talented group there. with that said, I am not nervous about them either. I believe Yanks are a better team than them when all things are equal.

    with Lackey and Beckett. I think Lackey and Burnett has been a wash this season so far. Lackey’s pedigree is better than Burnett career wise.

    Beckett has been terrible this year, however, I will still take Beckett over Javy , but that speak of the zero confidence i have in Javy rather than the confidence in Beckett.

    if you take the their contract into consideration , neither of them has matched their contract with their performances.

  115. SAS August 19th, 2010 at 11:11 pm

    Just listening to the news. If Clemens spends one day in jail for what he did, this country has more money to waste than I can imagine. This is crazy. Baseball should take care of these steroid users no the Government.

  116. SAS August 19th, 2010 at 11:12 pm

    not the Government

  117. Cashmoney August 19th, 2010 at 11:13 pm

    SAS August 19th, 2010 at 11:11 pm
    Just listening to the news. If Clemens spends one day in jail for what he did, this country has more money to waste than I can imagine. This is crazy. Baseball should take care of these steroid users no the Government.
    ——————————————
    agree.

  118. MTU August 19th, 2010 at 11:14 pm

    GB/Blake/LGY-

    I guess we’ll just have to get CL to keep things simple but what if we don’t. ;)

    Have a good night. Suggestions will still be accepted in the morning. :)

  119. Betsy August 19th, 2010 at 11:16 pm

    The Sox don’t take any grief for Dice-K, but he’s a#4/#5 pitcher and for that kind of $$$, I hardly think the Sox got their $$’s worth. The Yankees get raked over the coals for Contreras, etc….so turnabout is fair play, except where is the turnabout? There is none – doublestandard city.. Yankees = bad. Sox= good.

  120. trisha - true pinstriped blue August 19th, 2010 at 11:17 pm

    SAS, if baseball had taken care of the steroid users, Congress wouldn’t have had to. Clemens insisted on testifying. He perjured himself in one of the most watched televised hearings in history. He put the Congressional committee in a no-win situation. Clemens did it to himself.

    As long as MLB wants the anti-trust exemption, Congress will be its master. Period.

  121. trisha - true pinstriped blue August 19th, 2010 at 11:20 pm

    And SAS, this is about perjury. The Mitchell Commission, appointed by “baseball”, tried to get Clemens to testify in front of their committee. He refused. So baseball was apparently helpless to take care of its own problem.

  122. LGY August 19th, 2010 at 11:21 pm

    MTU,

    Yikes. No Lee or Andy?

    How about Mr Pavano? :lol:

  123. CB August 19th, 2010 at 11:22 pm

    “I personally will never count out the Red Sox until they are down and out. I still think they have a talented group there. with that said, I am not nervous about them either. ”

    I don’t think too many people are counting them out.

    The Sox roughly have a 20-25% chance to make the playoffs. That’s what it is. And that’s without fully factoring in Youkilis’s injury, IIRC.

    So 20-25% isn’t insignificant – it’s not 2% where you could nominally “count them out.”

    But 20-25% isn’t dangerous either.

    Injuries have hurt that team a great deal. But their pitching staff has underperformed. And that team was designed to win by pitching and defense. They’ve haven’t fallen further back largely because they’ve hit a surprising number of home runs – which not even their FO could have anticipated with any real certainty.

    20-25%. That’s where they stand with 40 games to go.

  124. Carl August 19th, 2010 at 11:23 pm

    # trisha – true pinstriped blue August 19th, 2010 at 11:20 pm

    And SAS, this is about perjury. The Mitchell Commission, appointed by “baseball”, tried to get Clemens to testify in front of their committee. He refused. So baseball was apparently helpless to take care of its own problem.

    http://www.newsday.com/sports/.....print=true

    Read Ken Davidoff’s point of view.

  125. LGY August 19th, 2010 at 11:26 pm

    MTU,

    In all seriousness, if the Yankees thought that could happen I would think they would have went harder after Haren.

    Of course though as you said it is always nice to have a back up plan and talk about this stuff on here, so maybe look into Carmona as someone realistic you could trade for?

  126. trisha - true pinstriped blue August 19th, 2010 at 11:26 pm

    Carl, I’ll read that now. Read the article from the NY Times. Clemens himself put Congress in a position where they had to act.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08.....tisan.html

  127. Cashmoney August 19th, 2010 at 11:27 pm

    20-25%. That’s where they stand with 40 games to go.
    ——————————-
    Yeah odds wise, that looks and ‘sounds’ about right. looks Pedroia is hurt again, so they will probably take it down a notch.

    I have a health dose of respect for them and their FO but injuries have definitely played a big part in the separation this year.

  128. LGY August 19th, 2010 at 11:27 pm

    CB,

    FWIW coolstandings has Boston at a 10.8% chance of making the playoffs right now.

  129. Betsy August 19th, 2010 at 11:28 pm

    LGY, where did you go on vacation?

  130. MTU August 19th, 2010 at 11:30 pm

    LGY-

    Thanks. Maybe we’ll be able to pick this subject up again tomorrow.

    It’s an interesting speculation, at least for me.

    Have a good night and welcome back. :)

  131. Carl August 19th, 2010 at 11:32 pm

    # trisha – true pinstriped blue August 19th, 2010 at 11:26 pm

    Carl, I’ll read that now. Read the article from the NY Times. Clemens himself put Congress in a position where they had to act.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08…..tisan.html

    Trisha I agree with both sides. Clemens knows he cheated. why couldn’t he just say he did and moved on? At the same time the whole thing is a joke and a waste of money. What is it going to accomplish? Clemens goes to jail as a liar and a cheat, what we all know he is.

  132. LGY August 19th, 2010 at 11:32 pm

    Betsy,

    I went to the Riviera Maya area in Mexico. Really just went to a resort there as this was a vacation with no sightseeing and purely spending the week at the hotel.

  133. Rich in NJ August 19th, 2010 at 11:33 pm

    If the Yankees got Haren, his contract would have virtually precluded any chance of signing CC2, assuming they sign Lee.

  134. trisha - true pinstriped blue August 19th, 2010 at 11:34 pm

    Carl, I read Davidoff. I have no sympathy for Clemens. He’s already tried to take others down by lying about everything. (Andy Pettitte misremembered…)

    He dug his own grave.

    I am happy to see a moral compass any time someone wants to take one out. Laws are there for a reason. And to answer an argument I see proffered all the time, because there may be other things that people feel are more “important” in life, it’s not a reason to turn a blind eye to someone breaking a law.

    That’s my opinion and that’s etched in stone. I believe in upholding the law, not skirting it because it’s “baseball”.

  135. ET August 19th, 2010 at 11:35 pm

    AdamRubinESPN
    Jerry on Mets’ offense: “pathetic” 35 minutes ago

  136. Betsy August 19th, 2010 at 11:36 pm

    LGY, sounds wonderful – I hope you had a great time!

  137. ET August 19th, 2010 at 11:37 pm

    “If the Yankees got Haren, his contract would have virtually precluded any chance of signing CC2, assuming they sign Lee.

    Could have always shipped off Haren, with his team friendly contract. Or if he reverted back to his frontline self, we would have a cheaper alternative to Lee and could have used that money on offense.

  138. trisha - true pinstriped blue August 19th, 2010 at 11:37 pm

    “Clemens knows he cheated. why couldn’t he just say he did and moved on?”

    Carl, that’s the question of the century. He totally blew it.

    “At the same time the whole thing is a joke and a waste of money. What is it going to accomplish?”

    In the least it will send a message that very obviously perjuring yourself in front of a Congressional committee, in sworn testimony, will have serious ramifications.

  139. SAS August 19th, 2010 at 11:37 pm

    Trisha,

    While I am no attorney, I do understand the law, but the Congress has more important things to do than worry about Clemens and steroids. By the way, I have no use for Clemens.

    Martha Stewart served time. What purpose did it serve. That time spent to heavy duty volunteer work would have meant something.

    The Government in this Country is a mess, and they should not be involved in sports. Then Clemens couldn’t have lied. What about taking these guys to local courts.

  140. Cashmoney August 19th, 2010 at 11:39 pm

    Oakland ranks bottom fifth in total run score @ 479 is a whopping 84 runs ahead the worst scoring team in the major the Ms, who weighs in @ 397 runs.

    Please tell me we are going to sweep the Ms , King Felix be damn.

  141. Cashmoney August 19th, 2010 at 11:41 pm

    correction 82 runs , failure in math, temporarily.

  142. JobaTipsHisCap August 19th, 2010 at 11:41 pm

    trisha, what I mean if they really wanna go deep, just investigate everyone on that report. If the report has any credits, which I doubt.

  143. JobaTipsHisCap August 19th, 2010 at 11:41 pm

    geez, ‘what I mean is’

  144. LGY August 19th, 2010 at 11:42 pm

    Betsy,

    Thanks! :) The hotel was great. Was a very relaxing week. I made sure to drink my fair share of pink and other bright colored blended cocktails, because I can’t see myself carrying them around at a bar here :lol:

  145. Tank August 19th, 2010 at 11:43 pm

    Anyone think that maybe Clemens didn’t cheat after all? The Pettitte affidavit looks bad, but maybe it was just a joke that went too far.

    The guy brought this upon himself. No one asked him to testify in front of congress. If he knew it was a lost cause because he did it, why even go through it?

  146. SAS August 19th, 2010 at 11:44 pm

    LGY,

    Hope you had a great vacation. I always miss the words of wisdom of certain posters.

    10.8% is 10.8% too much

  147. Cashmoney August 19th, 2010 at 11:45 pm

    ET August 19th, 2010 at 11:35 pm
    AdamRubinESPN
    Jerry on Mets’ offense: “pathetic” 35 minutes ago
    ————————————————-
    RS Houston 460
    RS mets 486

    Advantage Mets!

  148. Yank 97 August 19th, 2010 at 11:45 pm

    I made sure to drink my fair share of pink and other bright colored blended cocktails,

    ————–

    Always the best part of all-inclusive Mexican resorts ;)

  149. Betsy August 19th, 2010 at 11:46 pm

    LGY, now that you’re all refreshed, are you ready for a tense pennant race? I’d like to go to Mexico one day…….Mexican food, yum!

  150. hardwired7 August 19th, 2010 at 11:48 pm

    Frank Piliere’s full scouting report on Manny Banuelos:

    http://mlb.fanhouse.com/2010/0.....-banuelos/

    ***SPOILER ALERT***

    the last line sums it up nicely:

    he is a true front-of-the-rotation type pitcher

  151. trisha - true pinstriped blue August 19th, 2010 at 11:48 pm

    “The Government in this Country is a mess, and they should not be involved in sports. Then Clemens couldn’t have lied. What about taking these guys to local courts.”

    SAS, MLB invited the government to be involved in baseball when it applied for the anti-trust exemption! Baseball is beholden to Congress because of it. That relationship is not going to change as long as baseball has that exemption!

    Understand that Clemens put Congress is a no-win situation because he insisted on testifying in front of them. In sworn and very public testimony. You had McNamee and Andy Pettitte saying one thing and Roger Clemens saying another. Someone was obviously lying. I think the fact that it took so long for a decision to be made on whether or not to indict likely indicates that the government has (what it considers to be) a lot of solid evidence in addition to the testimony of the two aforementioned. I can’t blame the government for this one at all. Clemens hubris in all of this, from start to finish, was amazing. His insistence on testifying virtually tied their hands.

    About Martha Stewart – that insider trading stuff is really serious stuff. Look what happened to all of the stockholders at ENRON!!! People lost their entire fortunes because of insider trading. If you need to send a very strong message with something, you certain need to do it with that IMO.

  152. CB August 19th, 2010 at 11:51 pm

    “FWIW coolstandings has Boston at a 10.8% chance of making the playoffs right now.”

    They it dropped significantly since the last time I checked.

    Also, the great Trevor Cahill is struggling against an AL East team. He’s given up two home runs that were absolutely rocketed out of what is perhaps the most difficult park to hit home runs in in the AL. Shocking for a pitcher so well developed.

  153. Betsy August 19th, 2010 at 11:53 pm

    Ok CB, I get it – are you ever going to let it go? Wow.

    Hardwired, thanks for posting that; ManBan is my favorite young pitching prospect.

  154. Cashmoney August 19th, 2010 at 11:56 pm

    @hardwired7 , pretty glowing scouting report. wish he was at AAA right now.

  155. trisha - true pinstriped blue August 19th, 2010 at 11:58 pm

    JobaTips, understand again that Clemens himself started this ball rolling. The ranking Republican member of the Congressional committee told Clemens and his lawyers that Clemens didn’t have to testify. The Republicans had his back. It was his insistence upon testifying that put them in the position of having to take action. They didn’t go after Clemens. Clemens went after them.

    That’s why you don’t see them going after anyone else. Nobody else sat there and lied to them, while another witness sat there and told an opposite story.

    I also think they waited to see what the courts were going to do about Clemens’ defamation of character suit. Having the courts toss that and refuse to hear it probably just reinforced their resolve. (And at the same time the federal courts in NY accepted McNamee’s suit).

    I think the truth of the matter is that the Congressional committee was embarrassed in a very public way and not doing something about it would just undermine their credibility and send the wrong message. JMO.

  156. CB August 20th, 2010 at 12:02 am

    “are you ever going to let it go? Wow.”

    You mean I shouldn’t’ bring up the same point over and over again?

  157. hardwired7 August 20th, 2010 at 12:03 am

    don’t look now, but here comes Oakland

    4-3 A’s

  158. LGY August 20th, 2010 at 12:03 am

    SAS,

    Thanks. haha, it will be nice when it hits 0%. Maybe the Sox will even end up in 4th place! Now that would be fun to see.

    Betsy,

    I’m ready. Hopefully the Rays take a vacation here for a week or so as well ;) . Ready to fend off the crazies on here too.

  159. Bronx Jeers August 20th, 2010 at 12:04 am

    What do you call it when the liars accuse the liar?

    Col Kurtz’d

  160. SAS August 20th, 2010 at 12:04 am

    Trisha,

    I am not sure this is the venue for this discussion. I just have a problem with bringing the Government into everything. The Government should have declined.

    I know about Enron, and I know M. Stewart was a registered representative, but truly she could have been kept in a small apartment, not her estate, and helped others for a year and a half. She went to jail because, not only should she have known better, but she was famous.

    I know Clemens lied. Not a smart move, but truly we need that space for dangerous people, not for a liar. Clinton lied too. Should he have gone to jail?

    In any case, enough of this for tonight.

  161. SAS August 20th, 2010 at 12:05 am

    Bronx Jeers,

    Have a marvelous vacation. I am a tad jealous so enjoy for me too.

  162. LGY August 20th, 2010 at 12:05 am

    CB,

    Gotcha. I thought maybe you were pulling the percentages from a different site.

    Betsy,

    I am with you on the food btw. I love to eat.

  163. trisha - true pinstriped blue August 20th, 2010 at 12:06 am

    Oakland leading the Rays 4-3 after 6.

    Sleep well all. God bless all of the Hope Week participants. Talk about counting one’s blessings!

  164. Betsy August 20th, 2010 at 12:06 am

    Fine, CB – whatever. That’s pretty immature; you have something personal against me and now you’re going to make snarky comments 24/7. Ok….

  165. Cashmoney August 20th, 2010 at 12:07 am

    I believe English was Conrad’s third language when he wrote ‘heart of the darkness’… the brilliance , the brilliance.

  166. Betsy August 20th, 2010 at 12:08 am

    LGY, lol – you might have to fend me off at some point because apparently I’m one of the crazies. Oh well……… :)

  167. Betsy August 20th, 2010 at 12:09 am

    LGY, I live to eat, not eat to live – food, yummy! I love Mexican food – there are a couple of good homestyle places near where I live, fortunately.

  168. Bronx Jeers August 20th, 2010 at 12:11 am

    Thank you SAS,

    I’m sure I’ll be checking in from time to time.

  169. CB August 20th, 2010 at 12:11 am

    Also Trevor Cahill’s performance and development as a young pitcher has been a recurrent topic recently on this board so I think it’s more than legitimate to comment on it when he’s pitching against the yankees chief divisional rival.

  170. pat August 20th, 2010 at 12:11 am

    “I am happy to see a moral compass any time someone wants to take one out. ”

    Moral compasses should be internal and as such there is no need for anyone to take one out.

  171. JobaTipsHisCap August 20th, 2010 at 12:12 am

    oh well. At least they wish they can print money out of trouble.
    when will we invade Iran?

  172. LGY August 20th, 2010 at 12:12 am

    Where ya headed Bronx?

  173. CB August 20th, 2010 at 12:13 am

    Betsy-

    I commented on Cahill because I’m watching the game and it’s been a topic on this board.

    That’s it.

    Again this is something where you yourself decide to take a comment and make it personal.

  174. SAS August 20th, 2010 at 12:13 am

    Oakland 4 – Rays 3 at the moment

  175. trisha - true pinstriped blue August 20th, 2010 at 12:14 am

    SAS, it probably is an appropriate venue since there is no game going on and it deals with a former Yankee.

    The government should have declined what? I truly have no idea what you mean. They should have pretended that they didn’t believe he committed perjury? After clearly telling everyone who testified that they could be prosectued for perjury if they lied? He truly put them in the position where they had no choice.

    C’est la vie. And nobody said that Clemens is going to jail. You have no idea what penalty they will impose if he’s found guilty.

    Bottom line – if baseball had done its job with regard to steroid use, Congress wouldn’t have had to intervene. High school kids were dying from using steroids. Congress had to do what baseball refused to do.

    Anyway, it doesn’t much matter whether we like the action or dislike it. It’s done.

  176. JS August 20th, 2010 at 12:14 am

    CB-

    What are your thoughts on Cahill? Nice young pitcher with a high GB profile, but doesn’t miss bats much.

  177. Cashmoney August 20th, 2010 at 12:15 am

    btw, Thank you SAS , i mean it.

  178. trisha - true pinstriped blue August 20th, 2010 at 12:17 am

    “Moral compasses should be internal and as such there is no need for anyone to take one out.”

    In an ideal world certainly. In the real world it doesn’t always work that way. Case in point.

    Night all.

  179. Betsy August 20th, 2010 at 12:17 am

    No, CB – it’s sarcastic comments like Cahill being developed that obviously are meant to harken back to yesterday. In any case, it’s over as far as I’m concerned – simply because I see no sense in carrying this any further.

  180. Rich in NJ August 20th, 2010 at 12:21 am

    “Could have always shipped off Haren, with his team friendly contract. Or if he reverted back to his frontline self, we would have a cheaper alternative to Lee and could have used that money on offense.”

    Maybe, but could they have gotten as much in return as they gave up, especially if self-imposed time constraints (not wanting to be way over $200m on the books for any length of time) reduced their leverage to trade him, with very few teams being able or willing to part with prospects and take on this contract: 11:$12.75M, 12:$12.75M, 13:$15.5M club option ($3.5M buyout).

    As for being an alternative to Lee, I think they are so into Lee that they wouldn’t even consider Haren an alternative.

  181. Rich in NJ August 20th, 2010 at 12:23 am

    “Moral compasses should be internal and as such there is no need for anyone to take one out.”

    A line from a Seinfeld episode comes to mind, but I’m not going there.

  182. m August 20th, 2010 at 12:25 am

    So, what’s new? :)

    Am very sad today. Another one left the fold. :(

    But I see 2/3 of a LoHud trifecta have been completed.

    Cahill’s giving great length today. 8IP after the team was able to get the lead back for him.

  183. Cashmoney August 20th, 2010 at 12:27 am

    Rich in NJ August 20th, 2010 at 12:23 am
    “Moral compasses should be internal and as such there is no need for anyone to take one out.”

    A line from a Seinfeld episode comes to mind, but I’m not going there.
    ———————————————————
    The only sailor does not know, to Prospero’s way, one sails alone and alone only.

  184. Betsy August 20th, 2010 at 12:29 am

    http://web.sny.tv/news/article.....38;vkey=10

    Very good article on Phil’s innings limits; the Yankees are doing the right thing – and so are the other teams being careful of their prized kids

  185. Rich in NJ August 20th, 2010 at 12:29 am

    “The only sailor does not know, to Prospero’s way, one sails alone and alone only.”

    That recalls another episode!

  186. CB August 20th, 2010 at 12:30 am

    What surprised me about Cahill when he first came up was how surprisingly struggled with his command. He was known to have plus command in the minors and wound up walking way more batters than a pitcher of his style can do and be successful.

    So one major change with him this season has been better control. And I think that’s a good example of how a young pitcher needs some time to figure things out and let his tools come through.

    The other major thing he’s done this season along with improving his control is to take that next step up from being a good ground ball pitcher to a very good ground ball pitcher. He’s generating a lot more ground balls. And the oakland defense is a good one so that helps him quite a bit.

    All that said – his stuff looks good but not great. I remember seeing him in the futures game and he was really lights out. Such are small samples. His stuff doesn’t look like it’s got as much life, or at least as much life as I would have guessed it would have.

    He’s also helped out by pitching in that ball park. When he does make a mistake and get elevated in the zone he doesn’t necessarily pay for it. That’s a huge park. That’s why I was particularly struck by the shots Tampa hit off him tonight – especially Pena’s. He doesn’t have to face line ups like Tampa’s all that often in the AL west.

    Besides the Rangers that division is just awful offensively. He’s pitching in a division with the Mariners – and they are one of the worst offensive team in the history of baseball post the dead ball era.

    So the changes in his control, ability to generate ground balls in that park and in that division make for the ingredients for success.

    But he really doesn’t miss that many bats. And unlike say Wang in his prime he doesn’t really throw that hard at all. He’s around 90-92 frequently. So it’s not a real power two seamer.

    So his stuff is good but not great.

    And the thing I’d be concerned about with him is that his BABIP this season is .212. Pitching int that ball park with that defense, one would expect him to have a lower than average BABIP. But this season its far lower than it was in the past.

    And in general a ground ball has an increased chance of turning into a base hit. He isn’t striking too many more guys out. So one would expect his BABIP should have gone up this season. Instead in plummeted. Not sure how that will play in the future.

  187. Cashmoney August 20th, 2010 at 12:32 am

    Rich in NJ August 20th, 2010 at 12:29 am
    “The only sailor does not know, to Prospero’s way, one sails alone and alone only.”

    That recalls another episode!
    —————————————————-
    TWSS

  188. Rob_NY August 20th, 2010 at 12:32 am

    Rich– I have to say i’m somewhat of a Seinfeld buff (so biff wants to be a buff?) and can’t think of a moral compass Seinfeld reference. I can’t believe someone could see one that I couldn’t, I’m sort of sad lol.

  189. Cashmoney August 20th, 2010 at 12:34 am

    At Dirty Dick’s and Sloppy Joe’s
    We drank our liquor straight,
    Some went upstairs with Margery,
    And some, alas, with Kate;
    And two by two like cat and mouse
    The homeless played at keeping house.

    There Wealthy Meg, the Sailor’s Friend,
    And Marion, cow-eyed,
    Opened their arms to me but I
    Refused to step inside;
    I was not looking for a cage
    In which to mope my old age.

    The nightingales are sobbing in
    The orchards of our mothers,
    And hearts that we broke long ago
    Have long been breaking others;
    Tears are round, the sea is deep:
    Roll them overboard and sleep.

    This poem best goes with a nice McClelland Scotch….

  190. Carl August 20th, 2010 at 12:35 am

    Oakland wins

  191. CB August 20th, 2010 at 12:36 am

    Rays lose. The yanks are back in first alone.

    Tampa hits a lot of home runs. They hit a couple of shots tonight that left the yard. But that ball park is very unforgiving for a fly ball hitting team.

  192. SAS August 20th, 2010 at 12:37 am

    Good night all.

  193. Cashmoney August 20th, 2010 at 12:38 am

    Sweet, hopefully these As can keep the rays ashore a tad longer.

  194. m August 20th, 2010 at 12:39 am

    Hopefully the Rays fall of a cliff somewhere along the PCH.

  195. hardwired7 August 20th, 2010 at 12:42 am

    Trevor Cahill had a streak broken tonight: 20 straight games w/5+ innings pitched while giving up 6 hits or less

    he and Nolan Ryan are the only pitchers in history to do it

    pretty damn good company, if you ask me

    (Cahill gave up 7 hits to the Rays)

  196. G-C August 20th, 2010 at 12:44 am

    “And the thing I’d be concerned about with him is that his BABIP this season is .212. Pitching int that ball park with that defense, one would expect him to have a lower than average BABIP. But this season its far lower than it was in the past.”

    ___________________________________________________

    You know, when I was debating a certain poster who claimed Cahill was better than Hughes, I was in a hurry and thus could only eyeball his ESPN stat-line. I countered by saying that Cahill’s BABIP, off hand, looked like it couldn’t have been much more than .200. I was almost exaggerating to make a point, and I’m shocked that I wasn’t that far off.

    He’s going to regress next year.

  197. Cashmoney August 20th, 2010 at 12:45 am

    G-C.
    are you suggesting Cahill is one lucky Mo FO?

  198. Betsy August 20th, 2010 at 12:45 am

    Uh yeah, that would be me. You can quit that passive-aggressive stuff and say my name………

  199. Betsy August 20th, 2010 at 12:47 am

    I don’t ever want to hear again that this blog is openminded and is better for having differing opinions. As far as I’m concerned, what happened yesterday is over, but certain people refuse to drop it and insist on being obnoxious.

  200. Cashmoney August 20th, 2010 at 12:50 am

    Betsy August 20th, 2010 at 12:47 am
    I don’t ever want to hear again that this blog is openminded and is better for having differing opinions. As far as I’m concerned, what happened yesterday is over, but certain people refuse to drop it and insist on being obnoxious.
    —————————————————————
    Uh yeah, that would be me. You can quit that passive-aggressive stuff and say my name………
    ——————————————————————
    ‘but certain people’ that sounds equally passive aggressive to me , Betsy.

  201. Rich in NJ August 20th, 2010 at 12:51 am

    I didn’t realize that Cahill was such a lightening rod.

    Anyway, can’t we all get along?

  202. Betsy August 20th, 2010 at 12:52 am

    Gee Cash, I wonder why? I did that on purpose…….

  203. m August 20th, 2010 at 12:52 am

    CB,

    Good post about Cahill.

    I saw only the 2nd inning of today’s game. Can you characterize how Phill pitched today? From the gameday, he seemed to settle in quite nicely.

    (honest question, not trying to stir the pot)

    Thanks in advance.

  204. Cashmoney August 20th, 2010 at 12:55 am

    Rich in NJ August 20th, 2010 at 12:51 am
    I didn’t realize that Cahill was such a lightening rod.

    Anyway, can’t we all get along?
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    ha ! that statement makes me want to smoke a joint!

  205. Pat M. August 20th, 2010 at 12:56 am

    Just been watching some video of Curtis Granderson from last season, this season and his most recent ab’s…..He’s always had a quick bat, but his hands are so incredibly fast since he’s closed his stance and tightened up his stroke…..Man he looks dangerous

  206. m August 20th, 2010 at 12:56 am

    Hey, hey! Drug-free blog here!

  207. m August 20th, 2010 at 12:57 am

    Never mind. Pat M’s here offering brownies. :lol:

  208. Cashmoney August 20th, 2010 at 12:59 am

    m August 20th, 2010 at 12:57 am
    Never mind. Pat M’s here offering brownies.
    ——————————
    what? say no to joviality? :) mmm…brownies.

  209. G-C August 20th, 2010 at 1:01 am

    “Uh yeah, that would be me. You can quit that passive-aggressive stuff and say my name………”

    __________________________________________________________

    Betsy, I was actually trying to be nice. I have very little reason to be passive aggressive on a message board this week. Baseball and this blog has been one of my only positive outlets so to imply that I’m being rude, well, isn’t true.

    Cashmoney, Cahill has been lucky this year. A .211 BABIP is completely and utterly unsustainable. I don’t consider him one of the better young pitchers in baseball or anything.

  210. Cashmoney August 20th, 2010 at 1:02 am

    Todd Hundley was one player whom i recall to have extreme quick hands, when he was health you could not get a fastball by him. I remember him turning on a Rob Dibble 100 mph like it was child play.

  211. m August 20th, 2010 at 1:04 am

    Just to be clear, my top lip does NOT flap like that when I laugh out loud.

    Am I reading RAB’s wrap-up correctly?

    84 pitches thru 6IP for Phil?

  212. Cashmoney August 20th, 2010 at 1:05 am

    @G-C
    agree about the BABIP. I was just joking around.

  213. CB August 20th, 2010 at 1:07 am

    m-

    I thought Hughes pitched very well.

    In baseball there’s a an idea that’s given a lot of import – the notion of the “5 tool player.” Now multidimenstional players are great. But the “5 tool player” idea is a bit misleading because there’s no way all of those tools are of equivalent value. It’s the bat that matters.

    Pitching is somewhat similar. By far the most important tool a pitcher can have is a well commanded fastball with life. And that’s what Hughes has and today he absolutely pounded the zone with four seamers and mixed in cutters with great command. He locates the ball so well. Really – his fastball command is amongst the best of any pitcher in all of baseball.

    Hughes gave up a home run on a curve ball to Cabrera today. They should have walked him. Or at least they shouldnt’ have kept pitching him to the outside half given his opposite field power and that short porch.

    All that said, what left a real impression on my from that at bat was that Cabrera was persistently late on Hughes’ fastball. Think about that. Cabrera is the second best hitter in all of baseball. He is this generations Manny Ramirez. He has no holes in his swing. He is a great fastball hitter. He knows Hughes is most likely going to throw a fastball.

    And he can’t catch up.

    That’s baseball gold for a pitcher. It’s just remarkable to watch. And he value of that one tool to a pitcher is almost immeasurable.

    After the home run Hughes maintained his composure. He knows Girardi has read the team the riot act about winning series and not tying them. Hughes is pitching that swing game. He stays focused and together. He doesn’t shy from contact or try to nibble. He keeps attacking the zone.

    Early on there were a lot of foul balls and his pitch count was very high after two. And what I particularly liked was that he got stronger as the game went on. And by the third inning he was uniformly dominating and he had quick innings.

    If it wasn’t for that offensive explosion hughes could have pitched 7 innings easy, maybe eight. He looked that good by the end.

    He’s is both dominant and incomplete. Last year David Price and Ubaldo Jimenez struck me in that same way.

    It’s just part of the process. He looked very good tonight.

    He’s going to be a big part of their playoff run to 28 and he’s not going to do it out of the pen.

  214. G-C August 20th, 2010 at 1:08 am

    M, you are.

    He was terrific today. After that first inning, he really settled in and was both dominating and efficient.

    He did a good job of throwing his curve for strikes early in the count and used it several times to get ahead on the first pitch. But for the most part, he used what made him dominant early in the season- that live four seamer. He spotted it well to all four quadrants of the zone and was throwing strikes like a machine. A couple times he went up the ladder to get swings and misses, and the Detroit hitters were waving through it all game long. He also did a nice job of using the 4 seamer to set up cutters in, and busted a couple of bats in the process. It was probably the most live cutter he’s flashed all season long. Fastball velocity was 91-92, nothing extraordinary, but plenty of giddy-up and life.

  215. m August 20th, 2010 at 1:09 am

    I was surprised to see that Cahill was 12-5 (now 13-5) with a mid-2 ERA. You hear absolutely nothing about him. Of course, you don’t hear much about the teams and players out west.

    Don’t know much about him, but you probably could attribute some of his success to pitching in a weak hitting division. Pitching in a cavernous park. And that bi bim bap stuff, too.

    But no doubt, he’s a good young pitcher. The question is, is he that good?

  216. G-C August 20th, 2010 at 1:12 am

    “agree about the BABIP. I was just joking around.”

    :)

    Seriously though, Oakland does have a good haul of young pitching.

    The guy I would take on my team in a heartbeat is Gio Gonzalez. He has always had pretty devastating stuff from the left side and has finally learned to attack the zone with it.

    Vin Mazzaro also made a big time impression on me in 2009 when he was sitting 96-97 in the first three innings of his July start at the Stadium. He eventually tired and he hasn’t been throwing as hard this year as he was last, but he’s going to have a nice future in some role. Definite # 3 starter potential or perhaps could be unleashed as a devastating late inning reliever.

  217. Cashmoney August 20th, 2010 at 1:13 am

    m
    scroll up , CB wrote a good analysis on Cahill.

  218. CB August 20th, 2010 at 1:14 am

    “He’s always had a quick bat, but his hands are so incredibly fast since he’s closed his stance and tightened up his stroke…..Man he looks dangerous”

    Pat M.-

    Completely agree. He has great hand speed. But the adjustments he and long have made have really unleashed that hand speed.

    Before he didn’t really load his hands – they stayed out and extended and he almost tried to load them by twisting his torso a bit. He never got into that typical strong launch position good hitters always wing up in with their hands.

    But now he’s real close to that launch position and loads his hands much more efficiently.

    Before he had to start his swing much earlier. So he couldn’t really take advantage of his hand speed. It’s remarkable how he’s now letting the ball travel so much deeper into the zone now and then exploding. The last home run he hit was a great example. The ball traveled very deep and then he just uncoiled all of a sudden on the ball. That’s also part of why he’s not striking out. He’s waiting on the ball and not offering at junk because he doesn’t need to commit.

    It’s also really improved his plate coverage on the outer half. Squaring up his stance and quieting down have helped alot as well.

    But what’s so impressive now is his hand speed. It’s really amazing how fast his hands and wrists are.

  219. m August 20th, 2010 at 1:15 am

    CB & G-C,

    Thank you! I will actually make the effort to watch his half-innings via archive.

    CB,

    That part about miggy not being able to catch up to his fastball (why not stick with it in that situation?) is fascinating.

    So, when I see guys fouling off balls to the screen behind them, that’s a good example of not being able to catch up to Hughes’ fastball? I see it a lot. It’s frustrating that people are fouling off so many balls, but they’re obviously unable to square up or at least catch up with it as you say.

  220. CB August 20th, 2010 at 1:17 am

    “Cashmoney, Cahill has been lucky this year. A .211 BABIP is completely and utterly unsustainable. I don’t consider him one of the better young pitchers in baseball or anything.”

    This is over stating things. BABIP is not a pure index of “luck.” There’s a random component to it but it’s simply not true that all of the variance in BABIP is attributable to random behavior.

    Cahill has pitched well this season. Better than last. His pounding the zone more and he’s more on top of the ball. 55% ground balls is impressive.

    His BABIP will likely go up next season but he’s not doing it with smoke and mirrors either. It’s in between. But his skill and tool set are for real.

  221. Cashmoney August 20th, 2010 at 1:18 am

    G-C
    Gio’s name has been around as prospect for quite awhile now. I haven’t seen much of him but I have heard he has had problem with control and along with have good stuff. But good analysis i will check him when starts next.
    From what I heard and have seen , I think Brett Anderson has more nasty stuff than Cahill, but the guy is hurt and seem to be hurt a lot.
    I agree overall , they have a pretty kick butt staff. Gio and Vin are the big addition this year.

  222. Cashmoney August 20th, 2010 at 1:26 am

    apology in advance for numerous Grammatical errors and typos, I am typing in bed LOL and having a scotch.

  223. ron August 20th, 2010 at 1:28 am

    BETSY:

    I thought you were upset when they were skipping hughes & said just let him pitch.

    Am i missing something?

  224. G-C August 20th, 2010 at 1:29 am

    Totally forgot about Anderson. Complete oversight on my part. The guy has a chance to be one of the best left handed starting pitchers in baseball in very short order. If he can get healthy, he’s the kind of guy who can front a rotation for the next 10 years, or in Oakland’s case, for the next five. :)

    CB, I’m not implying that Cahill is garbage or anything, but a .211 BABIP has got to almost be historically low. If he was at .230 or .240 I’d be much less apt to write it off as sheer “luck,” as I’m reluctant to do that in most instances. But .211 is really, really low. Lower than I remember any pitcher having in the past several years. Last year’s BABIP “leader,” for instance, was Jarrod Washburn. He came in at .257. 2008′s BABIP “leader” was David Bush at .245.

    I’d be shocked if he doesn’t regress a bit. Still think he can be a good middle of the rotation starter, but I don’t see front of the rotation stuff there.

  225. ChuckKnoblog August 20th, 2010 at 1:33 am

    The kid who went to the UN works at the same country club as me. I am talking to him about it tomorrow.

  226. CB August 20th, 2010 at 1:33 am

    “So, when I see guys fouling off balls to the screen behind them, that’s a good example of not being able to catch up to Hughes’ fastball? ”

    m-

    That’s a combination of two factors both of which are independently very good but together lead to those frustrating at bats.

    So the reason why there are so many foul balls is that hitters cannot consistently square up Hughes’ fastball. They just can’t do it. It’s almost September and the whole league has seen him a couple of times. So I feel pretty good that his fastball is such that major league hitters are going to struggle catching up to it and then getting the good part of the bat on the ball when they do catch up.

    And I can’t emphasize how important that is. The single biggest question Hughes needed to answer this year in the rotation was this: could he sustain the quality of fastball he had last season in the pen this year in the rotation.

    And the answer strongly appears to be yes. No he doesn’t throw quite as hard but even with the velocity being lower hitters still can’t square it up.

    Now one could ask then, well if the pitch has so much life why are the hitters even getting a piece of the ball. There’s two components to this answer I think. The first is that Hughes pounds the zone. He is always around the zone so the hitter knows it’s going to be a strike and he needs to swing. Pounding the zone in a certain sense makes Hughes sort of “predictable.”

    What in turn mitiagates this “predictablity” is that Hughes is able to throw to all 4 quadrants at will. So the hitters knows it’s likely a fastball and that it will be a strike. So he gears up to swing but then can’t catch up. That produces a foul ball.

    Most pitchers don’t actually get that many swings and misses with their fastball. Hughes, despite the foul tips,etc, actually induces far more swings and misses with his fastball than even a good pitcher does. It’s considerably higher.

    Most pitchers get much higher swing and miss rates with their breaking stuff. And that’s obviously the next stage in his development.

    If Hughes can combine this fastball with even a slightly sharper, well commanded curve ball he’s going to introduce a complete other dimension for hitters to think about. They will need to protect all 4 quadrants against the fastball and then have to worry about timing and movement with his curve.

    At that point many of those fouls will turn into additional swing and misses.

    I am still a bit confused why his curve isn’t working better. I posted about this many times last year when he was in the pen. Given how dominant his fastball was last season it was surprising to see hitters be able to hit his curve. They should have been whiffing at it helplessly given the quality of the fastball they had to protect against.

    But that’s the next step. It’s not going to all come at once.

  227. Cashmoney August 20th, 2010 at 1:36 am

    G-C August 20th, 2010 at 1:29 am
    Totally forgot about Anderson. Complete oversight on my part. The guy has a chance to be one of the best left handed starting pitchers in baseball in very short order. If he can get healthy, he’s the kind of guy who can front a rotation for the next 10 years, or in Oakland’s case, for the next five.
    ———————————-
    If Brett Anderson can stay healthy, Oakland definitely has got something with him and Cahill.
    hopefully Bean can get himself a couple hitters to compliment their anemic offense and make a run in the west. it’s been quite a while since Oakland has contended.

  228. Jerkface August 20th, 2010 at 1:39 am

    Hughes has a 17% line drive rate and I’m almost positive most of that comes off his curveball.
    I wish there were splits by pitch type. I’d bank money on it.

  229. G-C August 20th, 2010 at 1:42 am

    Cashmoney, as much as I hate to say it, it looks like Dallas Braden has become a pretty good pitcher in his own right. I wouldn’t necessarily bank on him for longterm success, but being able to plug a lefty with that type of command into the fourth or fifth spot of your rotation for just over $400,000 is a big plus for a team on Beane’s budget.

    You are right, the next step for them is developing some semblance of an offense. Beane has done a very, very good job stockpiling young pitching and the A’s are largely set in that regard. Unfortunately he hasn’t made a single move that has really benefited that offense since signing Frank Thomas. IF he is indeed truly unable to stretch his budget at all, then he might have to continue to rely on signing aging DH types to bargain contracts. It worked with Thomas and failed miserably with Piazza and Giambi.

    Perhaps they’ll turn to Jim Thome this offseason?

  230. CB August 20th, 2010 at 1:42 am

    The pitcher the A’s had who really is (was??) the real deal is Brett Anderson.

    Cahill, Gonzalez, etc. None of them are close to what Anderson is. He was a no questions asked #1 starter in terms of stuff. It’s unfortunate that his elbow keeps acting up.

    Anderson has great stuff and from the left side. He’s an elite young pitcher.

  231. Cashmoney August 20th, 2010 at 1:44 am

    Jerkface August 20th, 2010 at 1:39 am
    Hughes has a 17% line drive rate and I’m almost positive most of that comes off his curveball.
    I wish there were splits by pitch type. I’d bank money on it.
    ——————————————————
    it’s rare to see a right handed pitcher with a nasty slider anymore….i thought Hughes had one when he was coming up. for some reason I thought he was tauted as a 4 pitch pitcher.
    so far i have seen FBs and Curves mostly with an occasonally changeup.

  232. Jerkface August 20th, 2010 at 1:50 am

    They shelved his slider because of the elbow issues. Nardi has everyone shelve their slider and work with a curve ball generally. If they dont have a feel for it, or if they ok it, then the slider gets brought back out.

    Hughes actually threw a slider in 08 a bit and it wasn’t good.

  233. Cashmoney August 20th, 2010 at 1:52 am

    Perhaps they’ll turn to Jim Thome this offseason?
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    Thomes , Branyan, Jonny Gomes, m. Ramirez?, Vmart, Ortiz…. Billy Bean has 15 millions coming off Durscherer , Sheets. So i think he has lot of wiggle room.

    i am sure they are other undervalued hitters i am not able to come up off the top of head right now.

  234. m August 20th, 2010 at 1:57 am

    CB,

    Good stuff as usual.

    It’s good see Phil get back to his first half self. There was a period of about a month that confounded us all.

    Phil’s fastball, and what hitters do with it, is something I will watch for. Not being facetious, but I guess the players really did know their stuff when filling out the all-star ballot. Facing that fastball must be a challenge, to say the least.

    Leiter? Coney? One of them used to say about Phil, “Be pround of that fastball!”

  235. Cashmoney August 20th, 2010 at 1:59 am

    Jerkface August 20th, 2010 at 1:50 am
    They shelved his slider because of the elbow issues. Nardi has everyone shelve their slider and work with a curve ball generally. If they dont have a feel for it, or if they ok it, then the slider gets brought back out.

    Hughes actually threw a slider in 08 a bit and it wasn’t good.
    ——————————————————
    ah, thanks, that explains it .
    I feel both Hughes and Burnett could use their Changeup more.

    especially for Burnett who doesn’t have the control in the zone with his FBs and can’t throw curves for strike. a change up will be vital for him as FB gradually losing steam is not longer a swing and miss pitch.

  236. m August 20th, 2010 at 2:01 am

    Oh, and I can’t believe it’s been at least a month since we’ve won a series. What have we been playing? About .500 ball?

    And look at that, TB and Boston weren’t able to take advantage in that time. Tampa had a 5 game winning streak end today, too.

    Can’t figure baseball.

  237. Pat M. August 20th, 2010 at 2:02 am

    Phil Hughes is going to be a very special type pitcher…..

  238. sunny615 August 20th, 2010 at 6:53 am

    Boston and tb lost. Good night for baseball.

  239. Fran the original August 20th, 2010 at 7:09 am

    Boston and tb lost. Good night for baseball.
    **********************
    And combined with the Yankees win yesterday we can all come in off the ledge (at least for a day) ;)

  240. upstate kate August 20th, 2010 at 7:23 am

    and to put the cherry on top, Pavano got rocked :)

    leaving this am for our trip down to YS! hope we get to see the good AJ

  241. Fran the original August 20th, 2010 at 7:28 am

    Kate,

    have a great time tonight! Hope you bring the Yankees good luck.

  242. upstate kate August 20th, 2010 at 7:29 am

    thanks Fran

  243. Doreen August 20th, 2010 at 7:33 am

    m -

    I read your post about another one leaving the fold. I wish you and yours only the best. And I empathize. My firstborn is moving into her first apartment in early September. Both exciting and upsetting.

    *****

    You know that Lance Berkman quote that had a few people ticked off a bit? Well here it is IN ITS ENTIRETY:

    “I didn’t come over here to sit on the bench and rot on the DL. But the better part of the season will be the most exciting time, in September and hopefully October, so I’m trying to get ready for that.”

    Wouldn’t it be so much better if quotes were passed without being edited or cut off?

    ***

    Glad to wake up to hear that Tampa lost. All is right with the baseball world. :) I hope the Yankees can keep it up against Seattle.

    ***

    I am reading the leader list this morning. I know we are all disappointed that Gardner doesn’t run more, and think he should have way more than 34 stolen bases this season. I found it interesting to note that Crawford has 39 and Upton has 35, and the league leader, Pierre, has 47.

    ***

    I loved the pictures from yesterday’s HOPE Week activity. My daughter has participated in buddy ball (baseball and soccer) at times. The people that run these programs are very, very dedicated. The kids are paired with typical children. Some of the kids do it as community service and they do a good job; but other kids, and I’d say most of them, really do want to help and their hearts are large!

    ***

    I have to meet my daughter’s roommate and mom for some apartment shopping today, so I’ll start GTLU early before I leave and catch up with it later when I get back.

  244. Don Vito A. Bellamo August 20th, 2010 at 7:34 am

    Detroit series was the start of the end for the rest of the AL. Taking 3 out of 4 after dropping the 1st game, with Andy and A-Rod not available spells trouble for the “rest”. Until we visit Tampa on 9/13, we have great chances to not only win, but sweep teams in our way. Seattle at home, @ Toronto, @ CWS, Oakland, Toronto then the O’s at home, then at Texas ? When we roll into Tampa with a nice lead on the Rays and the BoSux all but eliminated, taking 2 of three there, then sweeping out the O’s will put us primed for the “dagger to the heart” when the Rays come into town for what I predict will be the last series of the season that will have any real significance. The Rays, at that point, will need to sweep us and with us and that just will not happen in ‘our house’ !

  245. Doreen August 20th, 2010 at 7:34 am

    upstate kate -

    Have a safe trip and great time!

  246. upstate kate August 20th, 2010 at 7:52 am

    Don Vito
    I like the way you are thinking. I also think people overlook the fact that Tampa and Boston have 6 games against each other.

    Doreen
    thanks. We have one week remaining before our son returns to college…the summer has gone by way too fast.

  247. Doreen August 20th, 2010 at 8:07 am

    upstate kate -

    Yes, it certainly has been a short summer … enjoy the last week. :)

  248. JS August 20th, 2010 at 8:07 am

    Scouting report for one of the killer B’s: Manny Banuelos
    http://mlb.fanhouse.com/2010/0.....-banuelos/

  249. Betsy August 20th, 2010 at 8:22 am

    Phil’s problems with the curve are not surprising as he’s said he’s had issues with consistency – but apparently in the minors he really did have a plus curve. IMO, even more so than the change, this is something he needs to work on during the off-season. As to the change, he showed a good one in ST – so I believe he has it in him. I thought he should have used it more at the beginning of the season when he was so confident in it…..I think he’s a bit afraid to throw it because it’s his 4th best pitch, but if he throws it often enough he can make it a good pitch for him, to the point where it doesn’t matter if it’s his 4th best pitch.

    Doreen, people who had a problem with the truncated quote were already tending to think of Berkman as a bust and so they naturally thought the worst. I couldn’t believe anyone would think he’d be PO’d at the Yanks; I assumed everyone knew he meant that he was annoyed to be on the DL. Poor guy – I think he’ll contribute, but now he has to sit for 2 weeks with an injury that doesn’t take 2 weeks to heal.

  250. Erin August 20th, 2010 at 8:26 am

    What great pictures! :)

  251. Bronx Jeers August 20th, 2010 at 8:34 am

    I think next Spring with a rotation spot firmly in place, Phil will be able to really work on those secondary pitches.

    I know he threw them last Spring but even though the competition seemed to be stacked in his favor, he still had to show a semblance of success. He still had to get outs.

    Next Spring he can throw curves and changes till the cows come home. He doesn’t have to worry about getting rocked while he gains a feel for them.

  252. MTU August 20th, 2010 at 8:39 am

    Repost:

    YMH # 15 tribute for those who may have missed it yesterday.

    I fell a little short. Phil hit 15 wins but I only reached 12,000 ft.

    http://picasaweb.google.com/cybermrb03/MtHawley#

    Have a great trip Kate.

    :)

  253. blake August 20th, 2010 at 8:41 am

    Really good posts on Hughes from CB over night. Hes dead on. The #1 “tool” for a pitcher is fastball command aNd when you combine that with a plus fastball it magnifies it.

    Everytime I see him throw I’m amazed at how many 0-2 counts he has…hes ahead all the time and thats primarily a result of that abilIty to pound all areas of the Strikezone with good fastballs.

    When he learns to use those counts to his advantage more and develops his secoNdary stuff a little more then the sky is the limit for him.

    Thats exciting in itself, but combine that with the fact that the Yankees already have a diminant #1 starter in CC, could add another in Lee, and have 3 potential frontline arms in the minors and its a really fun time to be a YAnkeen fan.

    I also just read the Frankie report of Banelous. Ill admit ive never seen him throw but from the sound of that article he could have been describing a young Johan Santana.

  254. upstate kate August 20th, 2010 at 8:42 am

    oh I am so glad I checked in one last time. wonderful pix MTU…are we going to have to send you up K2 if YMH wins 20?!

  255. Erin August 20th, 2010 at 8:44 am

    MTU-beautiful pictures! Hughes is certainly keeping you busy, isn’t he? :)

  256. 108 stitches August 20th, 2010 at 8:45 am

    I defy any organization in baseball to say they do more for the community and unfortunate than the Yankees do.
    Some of it is never heard about.

  257. MTU August 20th, 2010 at 8:46 am

    Kate-

    I like living too much. Goin’ on one of my absolute favorite hikes on Sat.

    Hope you bring us luck by being at the game. Have a great time. :)

  258. Noreaster August 20th, 2010 at 8:47 am

    Nice pictures MTU, us east coasters hike the same vertical distances, just down where we can still breathe.

  259. blake August 20th, 2010 at 8:47 am

    MTU,
    Nice man. Don’t feel bad. That’s still pretty darn good….I fell asleep During our discussion last night but GB was right…SF would ask the moon for Cain and I would imagine the price would be as high or maybe even higher for JJ…probably why the Yanks will go after Lee so hard…there just isn’t much else out there since JJ and Felix signed extensions.

  260. MTU August 20th, 2010 at 8:47 am

    Erin-

    He’s killing me but what can I do. He just keeps winning.

    How are you ? :)

  261. Bronx Jeers August 20th, 2010 at 8:50 am

    12,000 feet?

    Doesn’t look a hair over 11,995. :wink:

    Personally, I put some extra incline on the treadmill this morning to honor # 15. No burgers for this boy.

  262. Noreaster August 20th, 2010 at 8:51 am

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  263. blake August 20th, 2010 at 8:52 am

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    He?s killing me but what can I do. He just keeps winning.

    How are you ?

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    How’s everything with you-continued good news I hope?

  265. MTU August 20th, 2010 at 8:53 am

    Blake-

    I actually summited. What I meant was I didn’t give him 15K for 15 wins.

    I think your right about Lee. But you always have to have a backup plan especially if you are a GM.

    I think we have the pieces to get Cain but I think we need more of a middle of the rotation type who can eat innings.

    Maybe Billingsley would be a good choice after all. I would prefer a lefty under the conditions I posed last eve. But who ?

  266. blake August 20th, 2010 at 8:56 am

    MTU,
    I misread and my phone won’t open the pics for some reason…in that case congrats then!

  267. JM August 20th, 2010 at 8:58 am

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  268. MTU August 20th, 2010 at 8:58 am

    Erin-

    TGIF, huh ?

    Yes. Things are continuing in the right direction. My only concern is how much pain the person has to overcome. They are succeeding but I feel so sorry about it. I wish I could take some on for them. Thanks for asking.

    Noreaster-

    You’re right. I always loved climbing Washington when I lived back east. I love NH.

    Blake-

    Thanks buddy but I’d rather be the radioman. ;)

    Jeers-

    I think my tributes are lot better than an In-N-Out burgers.
    When do you depart ? I want pictures. :)

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