Yankees postgame
A lot of the postgame chatter was about the errant pitches in this 9-5 Yankees victory.
Jeremy Bonderman hit Brett Gardner in the leg in the first inning apparently to retaliate for his hard slide Monday night that put Carlos Guillen on the DL with a badly bruised knee. Chad Gaudin then hit Miguel Cabrera in the back in the eighth after he had launched two homers off Dustin Moseley. Then Enrique Gonzalez threw behind Derek Jeter’s legs in the bottom of that inning.
“I think it got ugly,” Joe Girardi said. “It’s unfortunate that it did. It happens sometimes.”
Bonderman and Jim Leyland, who was ejected for arguing that Gaudin should’ve been tossed since warnings were issued in the first inning, wouldn’t comment on the intent of the pitch that hit Gardner.
“I don’t know if it was intentional or not,” Gardner said. “If it was, so be it. If it wasn’t, so be it. If there were some hard feelings over what happened the other night, I would’ve thought something would’ve happened yesterday because of it. Whatever. It’s over and done with. No hard feelings here.”
Asked if he thought Gaudin’s pitch was intentional, Bonderman did say, “You saw it.”
Even Girardi admitted it looked bad.
“Did you do that on purpose?” Girardi asked Gaudin.
Gaudin said no. He said it was just a sinker that got away from him. …
Dustin Moseley now has two quality starts and three so-so starts in place of Andy Pettitte. He got the win after allowing three homers and four runs in five innings.
“He’s giving us a chance to win ballgames,” Girardi said. …
The Yankees’ bullpen, outside of Gaudin, did a wonderful job again. Joba Chamberlain gave up a leadoff double in the sixth, then got out of it 1-2-3, although Curtis Granderson helped with a sliding catch to end the inning. Kerry Wood struck out two to escape unscathed in the seventh with the bases loaded, thereby leaving Cabrera in the on-deck circle. And David Robertson inherited a bases-loaded, no-out situation in the eighth from Gaudin and gave up just one run on a long sac fly. Since the run wasn’t charged to him, he’s now credited with 18 straight scoreless appearances.
The bullpen has a 1.21 ERA and has allowed a .167 batting average since July 26. The relievers have given up just three earned runs over the last 13 games, covering 39 innings. …
The offense erupted for 15 runs over the last two games after scoring one run combined over the previous two. The nine runs were the most the Yankees have scored July 29. …
Thursday’s series finale is scheduled for 1:05. It will be Phil Hughes vs. Rick Porcello.
That’s it for tonight.





solid win….hughes in 12 hours!
It is good to have our offense back. Mosley can serve up meatballs to Miggy and we can still win.
2 straight people.
PeteAbe
30 saves for Papelbon. First pitcher ever to get 30+ saves in each of his first five full seasons in the majors. #RedSox about an hour ago
What a shame Gardner got hit for making a good hard clean baseball play. Glad to see Bonderman get tattooed out there.
I guess Bonderman wanted to be a macho man by hitting Gardner but who hits someone leading off the game?? That made absolutely no sense to put a guy on base with no one out. If I was Leyland I would think he is a moron. I was so happy that Bonderman got smacked around and that Tex hit the homerun because after Gardner got hit they had to score that run. Hopefully the Yanks forget about it tomorrow and just try to win the game.
Captain C,
Scoring lots of runs is the best way to get back at the pitcher, in this case Bonderman.
Good night
Moseley only gives them a chance to win games if they score a lot of runs.
# ET August 19th, 2010 at 12:57 am
PeteAbe
30 saves for Papelbon. First pitcher ever to get 30+ saves in each of his first five full seasons in the majors. #RedSox about an hour ago
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I’m tired of hearing about how great Paperweight is. He is a good closer. But he’s been doing it just 5 years. Talk to me in 5 more.
And Mo has recorded more than 40 saves in a season 7 times, include 3 times in those first 5 years as a closer. How many 40 save seasons does Pimplebut have? One; 41 saves in 2008.
If he’s so great, why is Boston talking about letting him go and replacing him with Bard next season?
Like I said. Good, not great. He might be; but, again, talk to me in 5 years.
After having to endure the endless “this is a brand new start” talk about Porcello the last time when the Yanks struggled against him, its nice to see his season fall apart. God I hope they obliterate him today.
So much for Yankee fans cheering for Damon any longer. Damon has never been the brightest bulb in the light socket and you have handled his answer a little more diplomatically.
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports.....pn1pQAOEoI
Damon can think/say whatever he likes. I’d be ashamed to be a fan of the Yankees if Gardner does NOT go in hard on a DP grounder with the game on the line.
Damon doesn’t do his best work in front of a microphone. This doesn’t make him evil, or stupid.
It just makes him, in this case (and maybe in the case of what he’s said about the winter contract negotiations) — wrong.
Were my team down 11.5, with a sub .500 record and two more losses, I’d see things less… cleanly myself.
Whoops. Make that a full twelve games back.
I think the Tigers were okay with the slide until Guillen had to go on the DL. That’s when it became a “dirty” slide.
It was a clean slide with an unfortunate outcome.
Hopefully, they can move on from it today.
The more troubling thing about last night was the umpire weirdness continues. Now, perhaps I have misunderstood the rules all these years, or they have been misrepresented by numerous broadcasters, because I thought once a warning was issued it did not matter whether or not the next hit batsman was intentional, the pitcher would be tossed – and it has happened that way. Now, all of a sudden I’m hearing it’s a judgment call. If that’s true, that’s awfully dangerous territory – reading someone’s mind, that is. Intentional or not, Gaudin should have been tossed from the game. As it was, Jeter got thrown behind, but the repercussions could have been worse.
So maybe the answer is – no warnings. Let the teams deal with it themselves.
I also thought that if the teams were warned, it didn’t matter if the next hit was intentional or not. Hopefully this doesn’t continue into today’s game. Detroit has nothing to lose at this point
GGBG’s slide came at a time when the game was on the line, and he did what he was supposed to do.
I loved watching D-rob do his Houdidni act again
It is to bad Guillen landed on DL. But with game on line & Yankees playing so poorly, would you expect Gardner to go in any other way. One point. It seemed to me that Guillen never attempted to get out of way of slide. You watch most 2nd B & SS jump to avoid contact. Guillen seemed to hang in there to long & have both feet planted as Gardner slid in. I think he is also at fault for getting hurt.
Good morning all,
Agree. I cannot imagine a guy like Gardner to purposely hurt anyone. As Girardi said last night, he is sorry about the outcome of the play, but all teams teach a hard slide into 2nd base.
Good game last night. I love games with good offense by the Yankees. I hope it continues today.
SAS -
Sooooo much easier to watch when they hit, isn’t it?
upstate kate -
DRob is another guy that just quietly goes about his business. I’m glad he eventually came around again this season. I guess it just takes him a while to get up to speed (no pun intended)? Last season he didn’t start out great either, IIRC.
“PeteAbe
30 saves for Papelbon. First pitcher ever to get 30+ saves in each of his first five full seasons in the majors. #RedSox about an hour ago”
saves are an overrated statistic.
Doreen,
Without doubt, it is more fun to watch those games. I enjoyed every minute. By the way, I am off to White Plains in a half hour. I go often. I just don’t mention it. But at 7:30 in the morning I am usually sleeping.
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upstate Kate
I think DRob is the reason it is easier to watch the games. He has been terrific since he returned. I hope this is the beginning of something truly special.
doreen,
The umpire created that while situation last night. I do think there are times when warnings should be given…but the first pitch of the Game after a guy got hit below the knee…?
Jerkface (from last night),
I know one of your favorite pastimes is to promote the demise of Derek Jeter but the point of that post wasn’t to say that Jeter is having a better season than 2008 because overall he’s probably not. The point was that despite his struggles, other than the “percentage stats” he’s still in line with his career norms in a lot of other categories. I don’t discount those. He’s on pace for well over 100 runs despite inconsistent production from the 2 hole, despite Teixera being nonexistent for much of the first half, and despite Arod being banged up all year. The guy has a knack for touching home plate and is still contributing to this team.
Good for Papelbon…glad he’s not closing for my team..
Given out warnings doesn’t preclude the umpire from using his judgement regarding the tossing of a pitcher that hits a batter after the warnings were issued. It’s a misconception that when a warning is given to both teams that the next pitcher who hits a batter automatically gets toss. The official warning’s purpose is to place both teams on notice that if a pitcher hits a batter and in the umpire’s judgement that it was done on purpose then that pitcher and his manager will be tossed from the game.
“I’m like ice out there,” Robertson said with a laugh, before quickly adding, “You’re never calm out there. It’s always spinning in your head when you’re out there.”
NYDAILYNEWS
:SMILE:
Have a good morning. See you all later.
Gardner slid right over the 2nd base bag and didn’t go out of his way to clip Guillen. To me that’s the way the game should be played despite that unfortunate injury.
Crawdaddy,
That’s correct, but when warnings are given after the first pitch then its almost inevitable that its going to be an issue at some point in the game.
I actually thought Guillen was hurt bad when I saw that play…like surgery bad. Gardner did exactly what he was supposed to do and slid straight to the bag….its a dangerous play for middle infielders which is why umpires (until recently) have always given them the benefit of rhe doubt around the bag on double plays…
thanks for that clarification Craw…still wished he would have tossed Gaudin!
SAS/Doreen
D-rob has successfully gotten out of some real jams, which probably gives him confidence. The only time I remember him losing his composure was that Toronto game when he was biting his glove afterwards.
Papelbon pitched 34 innings in 2005 without recording a save. He came up from Pawtucket right around the trade deadline, made a few starts and then became a reliever.
His first season as a closer was just an amazing season for him.
Aceves is expected back with the team today. No official word on when he will be activated.
Lots of homers last night. Two starters that weren’t real good…
The Ump screwed up twice. He should not have issued the warnings in the first. Bonderman hit Gardner in the leg. Nothing wrong with throwing at the guys legs after he took out one of your guys. Gardner had no problem with it.
Then he had to throw out Gaudan for hitting Miggi and he didn’t. Looking at the size of Gaudan vs. Cabrera, He probably didn’t hit him on purpose. Still a bad job by the umps again.
Hopefully the Tigers are over it now.
Erica
Have a chat with your MPB and tell him shhhh.
I have to admit that last night was the first time I can recall (recognizing the limits of my memory) seeing warnings issued, a batter hit and the pitcher not ejected. So I thought Leyland had a valid point arguing application of the rule I have always hated. It seems to me that the true hunter goes unpunished.
Beyond that, I always get a kick out of the did he or didn’t he throw intentionally postgame arguments.
Crawdaddy -
It’s a misconception that is kind of propagated by the people who broadcast and analyze the games. Not everyone is intimately familiar with the rule book, and I think it would serve the viewing audience better if the people in the booth would even occasionally mention the full ramifications of giving the warning, specifically that if another batter is hit, it’s NOT an AUTOMATIC ejection. Because it’s so much better when you know these things.
pat -
That’s good news about Aceves, if confirmed. I’d guess Gaudin is going to be gone…
I didn’t know that Doreen. Thanks for clearing it up.
mikey487 -
I felt bad for Gaudin. I really did. It was like an inquisition. Add to it the fact that he stunk up the joint and it just had to be the last place he wanted to be – in the midst of reporters asking if he threw at a guy intentionally – which, even if he did, does ANYONE expect him to admit it?????? It’s just ludicrous.
Doreen. Agreed.
To bad they can’t hold on to him until rosters expand September 1. Wonder if he can clear waivers
Meant to say too bad
Ok, enough of the BS, all 3 pitches last night were intentional, Gardner getting hit, same with Cabrera and the toss that ended up behind Jeter. It is over unless the PussyCats want to make more of it. It all stems from the fact that they are going NOWHERE and they are pissed that their player got hit because HE chose to sacrifice hit body to complete the double play and win the game. HE could have easily gotten out of the way, because Gardner was playing 110% as he always does, but HE didn’t ! Too bad he got hurt, but Damon and any other player with good speed that plays the game 110% until the final out, would have done the exact same thing. Time to take this series and see Phil back in true form today. If those whiners over there want to keep this crap going, you’ll see Porcello throw at a Yankee this afternoon, then the ump will REALLY WARN each side and there will NOT be a repeat of last night. That ump last night did a terrible job AFTER warning both sides. Gaudin needed to be tossed and then there is no throw behind Jeter, period.
There was absolutely nothing wrong with Gardner’s play. He didn’t slide out of the basepath or try to spike Guillen. He was just playing hard and trying to break up the double play, which is basic baseball.
As for Gaudin, yes, I think he hit Cabrera intentionally. Don’t really have a problem with it; that kind of stuff has been going in the game for 100 years. But he should have been tossed. When he wasn’t the umpire totally lost control of the game.
I am heading to the game today and hopefully this incident is now in the past. The Tigers are going nowhere and have little to lose and it would be a shame to see one of the Yanks get hurt. They’re already the walking wounded as it is.
Today’s Guess The Line Up is now Open for Business
Lineups will be accepted until the official lineup is posted.
Good luck.
Doreen August 19th, 2010 at 6:50 am
I think the Tigers were okay with the slide until Guillen had to go on the DL. That?s when it became a ?dirty? slide.
It was a clean slide with an unfortunate outcome.
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Totally agree.
GTLU:
LF Gardner
SS Jeter
1B Teixeira
2B Cano
RF Swisher
C Posada
DH Berkman
CF Granderson
3B Pena
Thanks!
Got to see SWB last night here in Columbus.
Thought Nova looked pretty good. Consistantly from 93-95 with his fastball. Hit 98 once on a strikeout to end the 2nd. Only a couple of balls were hit hard and he was getting ahead of the hitters for the most part. He did walk 4, 2 in the 7th when he started to tire.
Montero hit a home run in the 1st inning which was a high drive off the RF foul pole. He also had a walk and a single. As far as his catching goes he had a pass ball on a pitch that he tunred his glove down trying to catch it and they stole 1 base off of him, no throw was made. He did make 3 nice plays on balls in the dirt, two on third strike swings.
He is not ready to catch in the big leagues though. IMO he appeared to be somewhat unathletic and unbalanced behind the plate. Not real smooth.But he is only 20 and growing.
Miranda killed the ball last night. He hit the ball hard everytime he was up. He hit a HR over the scoreboard in right center field. It was a bomb. Hit onto the street behind the stadium.
JM
have a great time at the game
GTLU
LF GGBG
SS Jeet
1B Tex
2B Robbie
DH Swish
CF Grandy
RF Kearns
C Cisco
3B Pena
thanks Doreen
Phil in Columbus -
Thanks for the recap.
Do they have a radar reading in SWB? Because they do not in Trenton – or at least we’ve never found it. Most of the time, I don’t care, but sometimes the ball just sounds so loud hitting the glove, you just want to know, you know???
It’s too bad the couple of times Miranda has been called up, he’s not had a great deal of success. I guess it must come down to regular playing time.
Gaudin may have been seen for the last time as a Yankee. Aceves is poised to return before the end of August.
LF Gardner
SS Jeter
1B Teixeira
2B Cano
RF Swisher
CF Granderson
DH Berkman
3B Pena
C Cisco
Quote from Clippers manager about Nova.
Nova didn’t help the Clippers cause. He dominated through 62/3 innings with a mid-90s fastball and knee-buckling breaking stuff.
“(Nova) is a major league pitcher,” Sarbaugh said. “He’s got good life on his fastball and he threw some really good breaking balls. When you have a guy throwing like that, you want to hope you can get his pitch count (up).”
Good morning all.
I too think that Gaudin will be gone when Aceves comes back.
Nice to see Granderson doing so well. I think this is the player that Cashman traded for. He has been great offensively and defensively.
I feel badly that Guillen is injured, but Damon is on his high horse like these guys are competing for a playoff spot or something.. I’m glad Gardner didn’t get caught up in any war of words. Hopefully todays game will be more civil.
I have decided on a prize for GTLU. I have not decided yet, beyond most wins, what other prizes I will award.
Gaudin is the most likely candidate to be DFA’d but they may very well wait until Sept 1st to activate Aceves.
Probably don’t want to take the chance and lose one of their long men, especially in favor of a guy like Aceves who has had the cranky back all season.
That would suck to DFA Gaudin and Aceves’ back acts up on him a week later.
With Pettitte out and Vazquez needing a rest, they probably want to keep as many of those long men as possible.
You figure the guy who was the crew chief, nonetheless, would have better control over the situation last night. Looked to me like Cooper issued the warning in the first, and then thought, “Wow, I shouldn’t have done that so early.” Then didn’t eject Gaudin (which I definitely thought he should have), and after Leyland ripped him a new one, said to himself, “Crap, I really should’ve tossed Gaudin there.” But by then, it was too late and he’d lost control over the situation. That’s why he let the pitch to Jeter go without saying anything.
Again, Gaudin should have been tossed. And I understand that it’s not automatic after warnings. It’s still up to the ump’s discretion.
I recall Pete talking about DRob before Spring last year saying how he just got married and was on honeymoon in Orlando but was sneaking down to Tampa to get some work in.
I think his delivery is just so smoothly deceptive. Kind of like that other guy they have. That Rivera guy.
Oh, and I just read the article about Damon’s comments. Can’t disagree with Damon more. If Guillen didn’t get hurt, then it wouldn’t be a big deal. Like many of you have said above, Damon is just wrong in this instance.
even if it was unintentional, it looks suspicious, hitting a player that has hit 2 HR in the game already.
Hi Doreen,
A prize for GTLU-how exciting. Hope I hold onto my lead unless Joe Girardi counts as the winner
Here is my line-up for today:
LF Gardner
SS Jeter
1B Teixeira
2B Cano
RF Swisher
CF Granderson
DH Berkman
C Cervelli
3B Pena
Bronx Jeers August 19th, 2010 at 9:04 am
I recall Pete talking about DRob before Spring last year saying how he just got married
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His wife’s name is Erin, which I think is very cool.
Doreen,
Forgot to say thanks for hosting.
Johnny Damon….oy. He always has a comment that makes me scratch my head.
Thanks Doreen!
GGBG LF
Jetes SS
Tex 1B
Cano 2B
Swish RF
Grandy CF
Berkman DH
Cisco C
Pena 3B
Doreen- you are awesome. I love breakfast GTLU.
GGBG LF
Jeter SS
Tex 1B
Cano 2B
Swisher RF
Granderson CF
Berkman DH
Cervelli C
Pena 3B
I am missing something-
What did Johnny say?
Erin,
Cool indeed.
I’m still waiting for a player to name their kid “Bronx”. Like Beckham and Posh Spice named their kid Brooklyn…
Then of course there’s always the name “Seven”
Took the dogs to the park this morning and there were 2 dogs named Jeter there.
It’s got to be weird knowing people name pets after you.
Bronx Jeers August 19th, 2010 at 9:19 am
Erin,
Cool indeed.
I?m still waiting for a player to name their kid ?Bronx?. Like Beckham and Posh Spice named their kid Brooklyn?
Then of course there?s always the name ?Seven?
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LOL
“Seven” is a classic.
Erica
check out Craw’s link at 5:37
Great night in the minors last night.
As someone said above, Nova had another very good game and Jesus hit another bomb.
Adam Warren struck out 15 in 7 innings in trenton. Yes, 15. That’s a Thunder record.
Frankie Piliere was in Tampa to watch Banuelos and said he was sitting 92-94 and touched 97. He should be posting a full scouting report soon, I’ll copy and paste when he does.
Finally, Cito Culver, Gary Sanchez and recently signed Rob Segedin were all promoted to Staten Island. there’s about 20 games left in their season.
Hi, Doreen – here’s my GTLU:
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[Probably more MUTLU again
[1] LF Brett “My ankle hurts” Gardner
[2] SS Jeet
[3] 1B Tex
[4] 2B Canoe
[5] RF Swish
[6] DH ‘Sado
[7] CF Glove Man Granderson
[8] 3B Pena the Bat
[9] C Cisco
Thank you
Erica -
I like breakfast GTLU, too! I don’t have time to get distracted.
The point was that despite his struggles, other than the “percentage stats” he’s still in line with his career norms in a lot of other categories. I don’t discount those. He’s on pace for well over 100 runs despite inconsistent production from the 2 hole, despite Teixera being nonexistent for much of the first half, and despite Arod being banged up all year. The guy has a knack for touching home plate and is still contributing to this team.
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Blake I don’t buy this. The 3-4-5 spot up to this point has been fine on the year. .860 OPS, .840 OPS, and a .938 OPS in order. A-rod has been consistent with runners on all season.
The reason Jeter can approach 100 runs and 75 RBIs is because he had 3 solid hitters in the middle of the order behind him and the offense overall has been good enough to keep getting him ABs.
Do you think it would be good if Jeter hit .250/.300/.400 but had 200 Hits, 100 Runs, and 100 RBIs???? You have to look at percentage rate stats or else consider how certain stats are acquired when you look at counting stats. Anyone can hit 20 HRs if you give them enough ABs for example.
He has been bad with RISP, abysmal with 1 and 2 outs, and terrible in high leverage situations. It has not been a good season for Jeter.
Oh Johnny
Can we maybe just chalk this up to maybe Johnny trying to be a good teammate? Lets not forget… he is the first to stand up for his teammates
Just kind of a headscratcher when Leyland himself thought it was a clean slide
Bronx Jeers August 19th, 2010 at 9:19 am
Erin,
Cool indeed.
I’m still waiting for a player to name their kid “Bronx”. Like Beckham and Posh Spice named their kid Brooklyn…
Then of course there’s always the name “Seven”
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Ashlee Simpson and Pete Wentz named their kid Bronx Moglie, which is horrible IMO lol
Doreen August 19th, 2010 at 9:24 am
Erica -
I like breakfast GTLU, too! I don?t have time to get distracted.
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I used to like it cause I’d only get like 10 line up submissions as opposed to 50. LOL
CountryClub -
It might be time to get myself to SI to see a game. I’ve wanted to for a couple of years, and just didn’t do it. I’m going to take a look at their schedule.
Chuck58 -
Re: “Pena the Bat” – wasn’t his triple a beauty last night????
Chuck-we have different lineups again! We’ve got to get back on the same page.
The biggest reason Guillen got hurt is he put his plant leg in front of the bag. If it was to the side, as it should have been the impact would have been less direct and the leg would have given more quickly. Damon’s comments are really stupid… but as the saying goes, once an idiot….
Umpire never should have issued first warning, but once he did it’s still a matter of intent for ejection which makes it pointless. Gaudin should have been tossed along with the Tigers’ guy who threw at Jeter. Oh well….
I’m looking for Alex to DH this afternoon. Winning this series would be a nice little boost.
Erica -
I haven’t had anywhere near 50 lineups this season. I think the most was close to 30, way earlier in the year.
I think people are discouraged because most days, no one wins. Too many variations. And the variations started early, because NJ got injured so early.
NYY626 – Andy in 2011 August 19th, 2010 at 9:26 am
Ashlee Simpson and Pete Wentz named their kid Bronx Moglie, which is horrible IMO lol
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That’s right-I knew somebody had a kid named Bronx. I was just about to look it up! LOL
Doreen
wow, awards for GTLU
Fran, in addition to the most wins, should get recognition for participation
Chuck always comes up w/ creative player names
Doreen,
You definitely should. There wasn’t a lot of talent on the SI team this yr, so you haven’t missed much to this point. But the three guys that just got promoted may not be there next yr. Segedin will either be in Charleston or Tampa (he has an advanced bat). It’s very possible that Sanchez joins Murphy in Charleston and they split time at C & DH like Romine and Jesus did a few years ago. Culver could be back in SI….but you never know.
if leyland thought it was a clean slide then he wouldn’t be sending his starter in to hit the first batter in the game (intentionally trying to get an early warning so the yankees can’t retaliate).
it was about as bush league of a move as i’ve seen a manager pull this season.
the ump did very well by not throwing gaudin out.
the guy that threw behind jeter was not ejected because the ump had already run leyland out of the game.
re: Adam Warren (4th rounder from last yr)
“His strikeouts included a stretch of five in a row, 13 swinging and two looking, and three apiece from Tyler Henson and Joel Guzman, EL All-Stars both. Guzman is also the circuit’s home run leader and is a viable candidate for league MVP.”
http://minormatterstrenton.blo.....night.html
Kate,
Thanks. I think we all deserve awards for the days we manage to think like Joe Girardi
upstate kate -
Ugh! I don’t keep track of the creative player names!!!! (I translate all names to make my list work.)
Now I’m bummed.
# pat August 19th, 2010 at 9:21 am
Took the dogs to the park this morning and there were 2 dogs named Jeter there.
It’s got to be weird knowing people name pets after you.
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When my wife and I were picking out baby names last year, she suggested Jeter as a middle name for a boy. I love Jeter, but I had to veto that one on the spot.
New thread
Standing around on a Thursday morning
New Post: Standing around on a Thursday morning
Doreen, Pena HAS been impressing me of late, and that triple just took off! I badmouthed his batting earlier, and now I have decided to make up for it!
Erin, I know! Well, I didn’t go with Jorgie catching a day game after a night game, and no word on the Big Puma, so I went with the lineup I did. Tomorrow we’ll be back on track
the E&E twins strike again
Kate, thank you
Creative names keep me amused