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Pitching depth on display in McAllister trade

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Aug 21, 2010 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

ph_502083The news was a little bit buried in the middle of last night’s game: The Yankees announced that Zach McAllister had been traded to the Indians as the player to be named later in the Austin Kearns deal.

My first reaction was absolute surprise. That’s a big name to be a PTBNL. McAllister is still just 22 years old and already has a full season of Triple-A under his belt. He had outstanding numbers in Double-A last year, and Baseball America ranked him the Yankees No. 5 prospect this winter. It’s not often a guy like that is traded away as a player to be named.

Twelve hours later, it’s less stunning.

Outside of spring training, I only saw McAllister pitch first-hand once. He came up for the Triple-A playoffs last year and more than held his own. He was never a guy who seemed to wow anyone with his stuff, but the results spoke for themselves. It wasn’t a fluke that he wound up so high on Baseball America’s list. He’s a better pitcher than this year’s 5.09 ERA in Scranton/Wilkes-Barre suggests.

That said, Ivan Nova clearly moved ahead of McAllister in the Yankees rotation the pecking order. David Phelps, Hector Noesi and Andrew Brackman — probably Adam Warren and maybe Lance Pendleton too — seemed to have passed him among the Yankees upper-level pitching prospects. Manny Banuelos, Dellin Betances and Graham Stoneburner had clearly done the same in the lower levels.

The Yankees needed to protect McAllister from the Rule 5 draft this winter, and given such pitching depth, it might have been tough to find a spot for him on the 40-man. Don’t be surprised if he develops into a legit major league starter, but there’s enough pitching in the Yankees system that they could afford to lose him.

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45 Responses to “Pitching depth on display in McAllister trade”

  1. MTU August 21st, 2010 at 8:23 am

    Chad-

    You may be right but he seems a bit much to give up for Kearns IMO.

  2. 86w183 August 21st, 2010 at 8:28 am

    Very high price to pay for a fourth OF for a third of a season.

    I like McCallister and think he might be a Jake Westbrook type in the bigs. He doesn’t strike people out, but he gets ground balls and seems to know how to pitch. Started off great in Scranton but missed a start and has not been very good since.

    Oh well, like the Marte’ trade is Kearns has a huge AB in the post-season to help the Yanks go all the way any price (almost) is worth it.

  3. blake August 21st, 2010 at 8:29 am

    Wow…that is a fairly big name for a Player To be named later….Mcalister really doesn’t have a place in the Yankee rotation though and if Kearns helps this team down the stretch then its worth it.

    Hope week recap was on the Today show this morning also.

  4. SJ44 August 21st, 2010 at 8:31 am

    Not a high price given the depth of quality arms in the system and the roster issues.

    You can’t keep everybody.

    Better to move him for a guy that is helping the parent club than lose him in the Rule 5 draft.

  5. SJ44 August 21st, 2010 at 8:35 am

    Right now he’s, at best, the 9th or 10th best arm in the system.

    It speaks more to the depth of the organization more than anything else.

    If you figure, as I do, they add Cliff Lee in the organization, there is no future for him in NY.

    It’s why, aside from name value, it’s not a surprise he was a PTBNL in the deal.

  6. MTU August 21st, 2010 at 8:36 am

    SJ-

    How do PTBNL trades work ? Is the other team given a “list” to pick from, or is the player involved strictly the Yankees call ? Thanks.

  7. SJ44 August 21st, 2010 at 8:41 am

    MTU,

    Yes. Teams are given a list of player(s) to pick from, depending on the terms of the deal.

  8. JCPD August 21st, 2010 at 8:53 am

    MTU, these are from yesterday’s matching hike. Nothing great. Pic 6 is how it generally looks, pic 7 shows how dry it has been here this summer. Of course,I know you know what dry is. With my crazy schedule, I may not be able to do hike when YMH wins, so I may need to go into my archive. Does that count?

    http://picasaweb.google.com/10.....ynlPad-AE#

  9. Madrugador August 21st, 2010 at 8:54 am

    The Yanks seem to have rebuilt their farm system with at least serviceable players but until Hughes and Chamberlin came up to the bigs, we hadn’t seen a pitcher out of the farm system since Petit. I would have liked to see McAllister get a shot with the Yanks but Nova is having a better year and there’s probably only one (maybe two) spots available in the rotation next year.

  10. 108 stitches August 21st, 2010 at 8:54 am

    It makes you wonder if Austin Kearns fits in any plans for 2011. It would seem that Kevin Russo among others could be used as trading chips this winter. This offseason promises to be an active one to re-fit the team.

  11. Elwood J Blues August 21st, 2010 at 8:55 am

    Chad, look at Norris’s twitter. He’s saying there are rumors of Banuelos and Betances moving up to Double-A.

    Presumably to take the spot that was already empty and the impending empty spot after Noesi gets sent to SWB.

  12. Doreen August 21st, 2010 at 9:00 am

    Any chance Kearns sticks around, or is it just these couple of months and that’s it?

    Anyway, when I read this last night, the first thing I thought was, there really is no place for McAllister in the Yankees major league rotation, given the depth but also given the fact there will never be 2 rookies at a time on the starting staff.

    Actually McAllister is lucky because he probably now has a real opportunity.

    Joe from LI –

    Have a great time today. It looks like a beautiful day for a game.

  13. MTU August 21st, 2010 at 9:06 am

    JCPD-

    Thanks for the pics. Your pooch sure looks like he was havin’ fun. Where were these taken ?

    And yes. it counts. I have had to “bank” hikes as well at times.

    Doin’ one of my faves today. leaving fairly soon. :)

  14. JCPD August 21st, 2010 at 9:09 am

    A place called Buttermilk Falls State Park, just outside of Ithaca, NY.

  15. BIG AL August 21st, 2010 at 9:12 am

    JCPD -

    Great pictures!

  16. Bret The Hitman August 21st, 2010 at 9:14 am

    Melancon and McAllister lost a great deal of trade value since last year. Cashman was smart to unload them for useful players who will hopefully help bring another championship.

    As SJ said, you can’t keep everybody so…our GM did a nice job getting value for these flailing prospects before the Yankees had to cut them from the 40-man and lose them for nothing.

  17. pat August 21st, 2010 at 9:16 am

    There may be something to this Mercury Retrograde thing.

    My husband read me the Daily News story from todays paper about yesterdays Hope Day. It was a heartwarming positive story that was a tribute to the young women’s spirit and highly complementary of the Yankees.

    Here’s the Mercury Retrograde part……it was written by Lupica. :shock:

  18. JCPD August 21st, 2010 at 9:16 am

    Thanks Big Al, I’ve decided to try to keep pace with MTU.

  19. BIG AL August 21st, 2010 at 9:16 am

    MTU -

    Enjoy your hike.

  20. BIG AL August 21st, 2010 at 9:18 am

    JCPD -

    I have to download that web site, so I can post some photo’s as well. Not all that great with computer stuff, is the site easy to use?

  21. MTU August 21st, 2010 at 9:21 am

    Thanks Al. This one should be exciting. :)

  22. Joe from Long Island August 21st, 2010 at 9:25 am

    Let’s just say its’ been a rough couple of days at the office. Thanks for the concern.

    This is one of the reasons I love baseball.

  23. JCPD August 21st, 2010 at 9:31 am

    Big Al, I like yourself am not that great with computer stuff, although I get by. MTU sent me a great step by step how to do it and it worked for me. I’m sure he can send it along to you.

    —————————————

    MTU, enjoy your hike while I slave at work :-)

  24. blake August 21st, 2010 at 9:33 am

    Kearns and Wood too for that matter would be interesting options for next season…problem is that if they continue to perform well then other teams may offer them better roles than they would have with the Yanks in 2011…

    MTU,
    Have a good and safe hike.

  25. Sudden Sam August 21st, 2010 at 9:34 am

    I think the time has come to put Austin Kearns in Gardners place regularly. Kearns is a better hitter, hits for more power and doesnt strike out nearly as much as Gardner. Gardner is fine as a fourth outfielder but with Granderson doing little they need to improve the offense in that spot

  26. charlestonchew August 21st, 2010 at 9:38 am

    “Sudden Sam August 21st, 2010 at 9:34 am
    I think the time has come to put Austin Kearns in Gardners place regularly. Kearns is a better hitter, hits for more power and doesnt strike out nearly as much as Gardner. Gardner is fine as a fourth outfielder but with Granderson doing little they need to improve the offense in that spot”

    You can’t be serious. Gardner is playing VERY good baseball and is in the top 10 in OBP in the majors. He’s one of the best leadoff hitters in the game right now. And one of the best outfielders.

    I don’t know what games you’re watching, but there’s no way you start Kearns over Gardner on a regular basis.

  27. MTU August 21st, 2010 at 9:38 am

    Thanks guys. I’ll report back when I can. Enjoy the game.

    Joe- hope things get better real soon.

    Gotta run now.

  28. Ace August 21st, 2010 at 9:38 am

    It ain’t much to give if Kearns hits the next 3 months.

  29. BIG AL August 21st, 2010 at 9:39 am

    MTU -

    JCPD August 21st, 2010 at 9:31 am
    Big Al, I like yourself am not that great with computer stuff, although I get by. MTU sent me a great step by step how to do it and it worked for me. I’m sure he can send it along to you.

    Can you send me a step-by-step instruction as well, when time permits?

    JCPD -

    Thanks for the info

  30. JCPD August 21st, 2010 at 9:44 am

    BIg Al, it would take you quite awhile to go through it, and some I know would be of no interest to you, but, here is a lot of my pics

    http://web.me.com/dakota1369

  31. JM August 21st, 2010 at 9:47 am

    JCPD,

    Your pictures are gorgeous. The sunflowers are stunning. Nice way to start the morning!

  32. pat August 21st, 2010 at 9:49 am

    Nunez getting a start at 3rd today.

  33. JCPD August 21st, 2010 at 9:52 am

    Thanks JM. My pleasure sharing them.

  34. JM August 21st, 2010 at 9:52 am

    Hope Javy’s arm can be resuscitated today…. :)

  35. JCPD August 21st, 2010 at 9:55 am

    Lots of body parts need to be resuscitated it seems…… A-Rod’s calf, Javy’s arm, AJ’s head…..

  36. SJ44 August 21st, 2010 at 10:00 am

    Gardner was 9 for his last 17 going into last nights game.

    Still among the league leaders in SB, OBP and runs scored.

    Yup, sounds like a 4th OF to me.

    Do some folks even think before they post or are they only capable of remembering what happened in the previous game?

  37. Brian August 21st, 2010 at 10:01 am

    It’s just too bad Kearns can’t play 3rd base. It w/b great to get his bat in the lineup as often as possible.

  38. 108 stitches August 21st, 2010 at 10:02 am

    Boston’s tragic number now sits at 33 and getting lower.

  39. jacksquat August 21st, 2010 at 10:05 am

    pat August 21st, 2010 at 9:49 am
    Nunez getting a start at 3rd today.

    You heard this from somewhere?

    If so that makes the bottom of the fifth with the bases loaded, one out and Pena up and even more interesting non-move.

  40. pat August 21st, 2010 at 10:06 am

    eboland11
    Today’s lineup:
    Jeter ss, Swisher rf, Teixeira 1b, Cano 2b, Thames dh, Posada c, Kearns lf, Granderson cf, Nunez 3b

  41. 98NYY August 21st, 2010 at 10:06 am

    It is frustrating to carry Arod on the team when he can’t play. Day to day is more than that. Now we will be nervous to try him at DH even. Let him rest and get ready for the playoffs…

  42. JM August 21st, 2010 at 10:08 am

    There is hope for Arod’s calf and Javy’s arm….AJ’s head, however, maybe a lost cause…..

  43. Rich in NJ August 21st, 2010 at 10:08 am

    It’s not a high price, but it’s not nothing either, as some suggested the price would be on the day the trade was made. It’s a good trade for both teams.

  44. 98NYY August 21st, 2010 at 10:16 am

    Javy had a great game against the Mariners in Seattle…I predict the same Today.

    GTLU

    SS Jeter
    RF Swisher
    1B Tex
    2B Cano
    LF Kearnes
    C. Posada
    DH Thames
    CF Grandy
    3B Nunez

  45. CB August 21st, 2010 at 10:41 am

    A major reason why the Yankees likely decided to make McCallister available in the Kearns deal is because they had already decided that they could not protect him on the 40 man roster during the rule V draft.

    I think that was a major part of their thinking. There’s so much talent in the system that it would have been very difficult to protect McCallister. They have a number of players to make decisions on whether to protect. McCallister likely wasn’t going to make it even on to the 40 man.

    And if McCalister wasn’t protected there is almost no chance he wouldn’t have been taken.

    So rather than lose him for nothing the Yankees traded him at the deadline.

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