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Postgame notes: What’s next for Nova?

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Notes, Podcast on Aug 23, 2010 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Baseball Jays YankeesHard not to be impressed by Ivan Nova tonight. Making his first major league start against a dangerous lineup, Nova was tested in every which way: He got out of that bases-loaded jam in the first. Never pitched with more than a one-run lead or deficit. Bounced back to retire eight in a row after Jose Bautista’s home run in the third, then he didn’t back down when Bautista shouted at him in the sixth.

So does the kid get another start?

“That’s to early to talk about,” Joe Girardi said.

The game itself was decided in the eighth when Dave Robertson gave up Bautista’s second home run of the night. Robertson wasn’t paying attention as Bautista took his time getting around the bases, then pumped his fist as he stepped on home plate.

“I was more upset that I cost us the game on that home run,” Robertson said. “I don’t really care how he ran around the bases.”

The larger impact of tonight might have been Nova. He gave the Yankees something to think about as they move into September. That first inning might have rattled most rookies, but Nova stuck around to throw strikes and bounce back from the only mistake that cost him.

“When you first come into the big leagues, you think it’s something big,” Nova said. “You don’t think it’s the same baseball that you’ve been playing in Triple-A. After that (first inning) I thought, it is.”

Baseball Jays YankeesA few Yankee takes on that Bautista vs. Nova incident in the sixth.

Nova: “I wasn’t on purpose. I just threw the ball. I’ve got to pitch.”

Girardi: “I don’t want any of our pitchers to back down. You go at hitters and you make hitters uncomfortable. People have been doing this for years. That’s baseball… It was handled fine. They gave warnings but I don’t think our guy is trying to hit him. But we don’t want him to be comfortable.”

Mark Teixeira: “It wasn’t in. It was a ball right down the middle to the backstop. I guess I don’t know what that’s all about.”

Here’s Girardi talking after the game.

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Baseball Jays Yankees• Robertson hadn’t allowed a run since July 2, a span of 19 scoreless outings. “It doesn’t make it easier,” he said. “I don’t want to cause us to lose the ballgame no matter what.”

• The first Baustista home run was a breaking ball that Nova left over the plate. The second was a fastball that Robertson wanted off the plate away but ran to the middle.

• Brandon Morrow has faced the Yankees twice in Toronto this season, and he’s been outstanding both times. He’s faced them twice in New York, and they’ve handled him pretty well. “He was tough,” Teixeira said. “He didn’t give us much to hit at all. You have to live with those nights sometimes.”

• Robinson Cano went 1-for-2 and is now hitting .396 when batting cleanup.

• The Yankees have lost five of their past seven games at Rogers Centre.

• Say what you will about Bautista’s sudden surge of home runs. I know it creates plenty of suspicion. I’m not one to get caught up in it, but for whatever it’s worth, here’s Girardi’s response when asked whether we should wonder about Bautista’s suddenly gaudy numbers: “I don’t have any suspicions. It’s a guy that’s playing every day. Sometimes when a guy gets a chance to play every day in one spot, they figure it out.”

Associated Press photos of Robertson, Nova and Bautista, and Swisher

 
 

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183 Responses to “Postgame notes: What’s next for Nova?”

  1. Betsy August 23rd, 2010 at 11:43 pm

    Well, hopefully D-Rob will have a chance to bounce back tomorrow..I like his attitude

  2. MTU August 23rd, 2010 at 11:50 pm

    Any pitcher who sits 94-95 touching 97-98 with solid CB, a developed CU, and reasonable control should get your attention.

    Ivan SuperNova certainly got some people’s attention tonite.

    IMO, he deserves another start. I thought he earned it.

    Besides, the rest will only help Javy’s tired arm.

    If I’m Joe I run with this kid a bit and find out what he can give us.

    Good night everyone. See you Manana. :)

  3. GreenBeret7 August 23rd, 2010 at 11:51 pm

    pat, Nova is one of the few young pitchers that knows how to pitch inside without hitting a batter. Young hard throwers with that ability will scare hitters. Not something that they’re used to. Look at what it did for mussina in 2008. He had nothing but finally the ability or guts to pitch inside. Look at Pettitte and Rivera. Rivera always did…Pettitte just started. He could go another 4 years pitching inside and winning. For years, Pettitte and Mussina lived outside. They can’t do that anymore…not consistantly. back ‘em off and then go outside.

  4. Captain Clutch August 23rd, 2010 at 11:51 pm

    Who cares what Bautista the nobody has to say. It’s funny how these things only happen with loser teams out of the race. You can guarantee he never would of did what he did if a veteran was on the mound since he would of got his butt beat. He especially wouldn’t of done it with CC on the mound since he would of ate him for dinner.

  5. Zach S August 23rd, 2010 at 11:52 pm

    I know Giardi will never do it, but any thought given to moving Robby into the clean up spot for good when A-Rod comes back?

  6. Betsy August 23rd, 2010 at 11:53 pm

    Nova absolutely should get another start, but it’s not that easy. Do they DL Javy? Skip him a start? Go with a 6 man rotation for awhile? With Phil having to be skipped – and soon, probably by the first week in September – Nova could have an important say in this race.

  7. GreenBeret7 August 23rd, 2010 at 11:53 pm

    pat
    August 23rd, 2010 at 11:39 pm
    “Instinctively, I was kind of upset,” Bautista said. “I was just trying to see what kind of reaction I was going to get from him. I was surprised to see he was pretty defiant. He was walking up towards me and flashing his hands up and started yelling. That’s when I felt like the pitch was intentional.”

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    Must have scared the crap out of him if he had to carry his bat out to the mound with him.

  8. Betsy August 23rd, 2010 at 11:53 pm

    How come Nova is looked at as a mid or back end of the rotation starter if his stuff is so good?

  9. Latroy Farnsworth August 23rd, 2010 at 11:54 pm

    Nova was good. There’s no reason he shouldn’t get another start. Bautistas a punk and should be thrown at. I say the Yanks lie in the weeds until next weekends series in the Boogie Down.

  10. Betsy August 23rd, 2010 at 11:54 pm

    MTU, I’m guessing he does not sit 94-95; I think this was pure adrenaline.

  11. m August 23rd, 2010 at 11:55 pm

    Gosh, darn. That’s why Bautista’s hitting so many homeruns!

    He’s still an ass. Act like you’ve been there before.

    Nova did well. He deserves another start. Javy needs to be shelved. If he can’t hit his spots or 90 on the radar gun then put him in the bullpen.

    I’m totally confused on the pushing everyone back, but then wedging someone in between CC & AJ.

    Just make it CC, Hughes, AJ, Moseley, and Nova. Line it up for the playoffs. Unless we don’t make it. :roll:

  12. Matt August 23rd, 2010 at 11:55 pm

    Interesting point you make GB.

    Most pitchers seem to yield that half of the plate nowadays because of the fear of the greater power that hitters have nowadays. But when you create that doubt in the mind of the hitter by locating on both sides of the plate, you really start to gain an advantage when you face them many times through the order.

    That’s one thing that really bothers me about Joba- the way he doesn’t throw inside enough to righty hitters with his fastball. When they can eliminate that pitch without fear of being locked up in there, they can lean out over the plate and hit his slider away, even if it’s a little off the plate. It takes away one of his weapons, which is unfortunate.

  13. Betsy August 23rd, 2010 at 11:55 pm

    Joe has already said that Alex will be in his usual cleanup spot when he returns…………it’s the right move.

    Nova has chutzpah – you can’t teach that.

  14. MTU August 23rd, 2010 at 11:56 pm

    Betsy-

    I think he does. I’ve heard it reported before. We’ll see next time. ;)

  15. goyanks27ws August 23rd, 2010 at 11:57 pm

    Nova was impressive and I feel he deserves another start.

    Bautista is a bum for basically challenging Nova to fight. Great player though.

    Robertson will bounce back and be huge for us the rest of the way.

    The umpire was terrible for both sides. Quick hooks, quick warning, and inconsistent/horrible zone.

  16. Captain Clutch August 23rd, 2010 at 11:57 pm

    If Vazquez gets knocked around in his next start then he should go on the dl and Nova should make his start. Vazquez can definitely use the rest and Nova was impressive and I doubt he will give them less than Vazquez has given them. He deserves to make another start and Vazquez has been dreadful anyway.

  17. Betsy August 23rd, 2010 at 11:57 pm

    Phil doesn’t throw inside either………..I don’t think. He probably should……maybe next year.

    MTU, I don’t know – it seems to me that if he sat at 94-95 he’d be more highly regarded.

  18. m August 23rd, 2010 at 11:57 pm

    Zach,

    He’s already said Alex is there when he comes back.

    And really, Alex hasn’t done anything to lose his spot.

  19. GreenBeret7 August 23rd, 2010 at 11:58 pm

    God God, I hope that pain in the behind idiot, Matthilda stays over on the last subject and talks to himself. Maybe he’ll have a stroke from being so full of himself.

  20. Betsy August 23rd, 2010 at 11:59 pm

    Joe’s answer (too early to talk about ) seems sort of abrupt, but I think the Yankees have a lot to talk about with now given Nova’s promising start.

  21. Tabbert August 23rd, 2010 at 11:59 pm

    if not for being injured arod would be leading all of baseball with rbi’s. I would see no reason to move him out of the number four hole.

  22. GreenBeret7 August 24th, 2010 at 12:00 am

    Damned. spoke too soon.

  23. Betsy August 24th, 2010 at 12:00 am

    GB, too late :)

  24. MTU August 24th, 2010 at 12:00 am

    “The umpire was terrible for both sides. Quick hooks, quick warning, and inconsistent/horrible zone.”

    He was as close to useless as it gets. That pipsqueek definitely has a Napoleon complex and should just ride off into the sunset with that other loser Joe Worst.

  25. Betsy August 24th, 2010 at 12:00 am

    Alex has been plenty clutch this year…………..maybe this DL stint will allow him to heal, calf and hip wise

  26. Rob B August 24th, 2010 at 12:01 am

    “Sometimes when a guy gets a chance to play every day in one spot, they figure it out.”

    This is his second full year in Toronto and his 5th full year in the majors. He’s nearly 30. A guy doesn’t just figure it out to the tune of over a 300% increase in HR production at that age. It just doesn’t happen without some sort of “help.”

    Even Ortiz didn’t increase his production in one year like that. He increased his HR totals about 10 per year until his max 54 in 2006. Bonds had consistently hit in the 30s and 40s before ‘roids jacked his production starting in 2000. The track record for Bautista just isn’t there. I just can’t believe that somebody with his MLB experience and age is just suddenly going to “find it” and hit 3 times his career high.

  27. Matt August 24th, 2010 at 12:01 am

    If you can’t even respond to a post agreeing with your point and trying to have a reasonable conversation without tossing around insults, then you might want to take a second and think about who is really the one deserving of the kind of criticism you continue to spout.

  28. GreenBeret7 August 24th, 2010 at 12:02 am

    Betsy August 24th, 2010 at 12:00 am
    GB, too late

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    LMAO. Can’t win for tryin’, betsy.

  29. Betsy August 24th, 2010 at 12:02 am

    I could live with a crappy umpire if he was just consistent…………….Selig is a joke; he doesn’t care about the integrity of the game. If he did, he’d fire these bums.

  30. Roider Ortiz August 24th, 2010 at 12:03 am

    Matt – Trisha is a supreme fan. Trisha never quits on the Yankees; never attacks the players of the Yankees. That is a supreme fan.

  31. MTU August 24th, 2010 at 12:03 am

    Betsy-

    I think he is well regarded and I believe his velocity increased this season. From what I saw tonite i’m glad we didn’t trade him.

    It’s too soon to say this with any real certainty but we may just have found our 5th starter for next season.

    See you in the AM. have a good evening. :)

  32. JobaTipsHisCap August 24th, 2010 at 12:04 am

    just drill him tomorrow

  33. GreenBeret7 August 24th, 2010 at 12:04 am

    You deserve every insult you get, Matthilda. You’re an obnoxious jerk and for some reason, you have some idea that people want to read your nightly whinings. THEY DON’T.

  34. Tabbert August 24th, 2010 at 12:05 am

    look, im not going to say if bautista is or isnt taking something but i would find it VERY unlikely that someone would be stupid enough to be juicing in MLB right now. It might be hard to understand but maybe he is just having a monster year without any sort of ped. Baseball is the sport of the unexpected.

  35. Betsy August 24th, 2010 at 12:06 am

    MTU, oh yeah – he’s well-regarded, but he’s generally considered a mid-rotation or back-end type, not a top of the rotation starter.

    You could be right about Nova as the 5th starter next year, but I tend to doubt it.

    Have a good night!!!

  36. Rob B August 24th, 2010 at 12:07 am

    Tabbert August 24th, 2010 at 12:05 am

    look, im not going to say if bautista is or isnt taking something but i would find it VERY unlikely that someone would be stupid enough to be juicing in MLB right now.
    ———

    There is still no test for HGH.

  37. Matt August 24th, 2010 at 12:07 am

    Roider Ortiz,

    That makes her a great supporter, but that doesn’t necessarily make her the “supreme fan.” A fan is one who is passionate about what is going on with their team. Someone who doesn’t care whether they win or lose is not really that passionate about their team, wouldn’t you agree?

    I enjoyed watching some Jets games in the NFL playoffs last year, but I’m not a Jets fan. I wasn’t that upset when they got knocked out, I just thought it was an unfortunate end to a possibly exciting run.

    Having that kind of unending faith in people is a noble trait, it’ll make Trisha good at many things in her life, some of which are not related to baseball. But that doesn’t necessarily make her a bigger fan, it makes her more like a cheerleader.

  38. trisha - true pinstriped blue August 24th, 2010 at 12:07 am

    GB, he’s mad at me because I cant buy into the manic behavior of those who flip out after every Yankee loss, so he’s calling my (lack of) reaction to losses a charade. Have I been that apparent? I thought I had managed to hide my disgust, frustration, abhorrence, disdain, depression, and just general hatred of the team quite well.

    :(

    Guess I’ve been found out. Well at least now I can show my true colors and openly join the group that believes the Yankees suck, their offense sucks, Joba sucks, Jeter sucks, Girardi sucks, the rotation sucks, and they have little to no chance of making it to the playoffs, and even if they do, the outstanding rotation of the Boston Red Sox (notice the respect and reverence) will easily handle the mediocre Yankees.

    Hope I can sleep tonight.

  39. KPB August 24th, 2010 at 12:07 am

    264.

    GB7

    I saw on Fox Sports Houston a few days ago about bat speed vs how hard a swing is. They said the faster the bat is swung the greater the distance would be.

    By the way how are you feeling? Still improving from your trip to see your GF ……… I mean nurse? :smile:

  40. Bret The Hitman August 24th, 2010 at 12:09 am

    So the Diamondbacks wanted this guy, Banuelos and Joba for Danny Haren?

  41. Tabbert August 24th, 2010 at 12:09 am

    rob-

    maybe he is taking something but i would like to believe that our sport is taking serious strides on becoming a clean. In my opinion, the guy is doing it with his own natural ability until proven otherwise.

  42. tyanksfan36 August 24th, 2010 at 12:10 am

    I don’t know why bautista thinks he can challenge a kid and not expect him to stand up for himself. Nova wasn’t even paying attention to him when he started walking to the mound. He only started yelling back when he saw that bautista was walking up to him.

  43. Eroc August 24th, 2010 at 12:10 am

    “Rob Dibble tells Stephen Strasburg to ‘Suck it up’”

    ————–

    I agree. How are pitchers ever going to grow up and become men if they get put on the DL for a little shoulder pain?

    Pitch through it… that’s what Nolan Ryan, Tom Seaver, Don Drysdale, Catfish Hinter, Kirk Gibson, etc. did

  44. Captain Clutch August 24th, 2010 at 12:11 am

    The umpiring was never as bad as it has been this season. We have seen bad calls on the bases all over the place but the strike zone has been unreal recently. It seems like in 4-5 games a week the hp ump is making up their own strike zone as they go. Selig really needs to get these old guys eyes checked.

  45. trisha - true pinstriped blue August 24th, 2010 at 12:11 am

    And by the way, even though I have been outed, I never claimed I was the supreme fan – even though I was until I got discovered.

    :)

  46. GreenBeret7 August 24th, 2010 at 12:11 am

    KPB, that’s not even funny. I’d rather be Matthilda’s father than have that said. at least i could have beat some sense into him about 20 years ago.

    Doing just fine on this side of the country. How are things your way?

  47. Matt August 24th, 2010 at 12:12 am

    Trisha,

    Now that’s just ridiculous. None of us are saying the Yankees suck, we just have the ability to realize that this team is not guaranteed anything, and that there can in fact be legitimate concerns even on a team that has a good record. Nothing is decided yet, and to be frustrated when they don’t play well is only natural for someone who is a fan of said team.

    It’s impossible to reason with you because every time you see a post that isn’t perfectly cheerful, you immediately start the hyperbole and start putting words in peoples’ mouths. Some people prefer to look at things from a broader perspective, even if they are fans of the team. Thinking that other teams have a chance is not betrayal, it’s reality.

    The reason I don’t believe your “nothing can ever bother me about the team” line is that it is a direct contradiction to being a devoted fan of a team. Anyone who has vested their time and interest in such an endeavor will inevitably react to the things that take place. If you care enough to want them to win, you’ll be frustrated and disappointed when they lose. If you aren’t, then that says something else about how much you care.

  48. Doreen August 24th, 2010 at 12:12 am

    I didn’t see the new post.

    In the end, the exact number of runs you win by and the exact number of games you win and how you arrive at either number is gobbledygook. You either make the playoffs or you don’t.

    I hope Nova gets another chance to pitch.

  49. m August 24th, 2010 at 12:12 am

    Wow. Is someone stalking GreenBeret? Unreal.

  50. theREALkevin August 24th, 2010 at 12:13 am

    I would say every word I’ve said to people on this blog to their face. Others? I’d bet it all they wouldn’t have the courage if they saw me in person. This place turns mice into lions, but its all a front.

  51. Betsy August 24th, 2010 at 12:14 am

    NY Post already playing the “Girardi to the Cubs” angle……and Harold Reynolds thinks he’s going there………….ok, glad he can read Joe’s mind.

  52. ET August 24th, 2010 at 12:14 am

    Girardi: “I don’t want any of our pitchers to back down. You go at hitters and you make hitters uncomfortable. People have been doing this for years. That’s baseball… It was handled fine. They gave warnings but I don’t think our guy is trying to hit him. But we don’t want him to be comfortable.”

    ——————-

    Basically a nice way of saying that he loves what Nova did.

    And the reason he said its too early to talk about his next start is because they have to figure out when it will be. Does he replace Javy? Does Hughes’ next turn get skipped against Oakland? Do they go 6-man? Does he replace Mosely if he bombs tomorrow? I don’t think they know what capacity his next start will be in… though Javy DL is obviously the most logical one.

  53. Occasional Poster August 24th, 2010 at 12:15 am

    It’s pathology, Matt. Sheer pathology.

    But there’s some great reporting and valuable analysis on this site so I just skip over the mindless, repetitive and hostile drivel.

    Thank heavens for scrolling. And the “Find” command.

  54. theREALkevin August 24th, 2010 at 12:15 am

    Matt, don’t worry about it. He’s a grandpa. That makes him old and wise!! Right?

  55. pat August 24th, 2010 at 12:16 am

    Eroc

    I ruin a pair of $5 sunglasses, I don’t care. I ruin $200 sunglasses, I care. Strasburg is a pair of $200 sunglasses.

  56. KPB August 24th, 2010 at 12:17 am

    GB7

    I’m doing well thanks. Glad to hear you’re doing alright. We might have lost, but I still think Nova did a good job for his first start. As far as the other thing, there’s no sense in beating a dead horse.

  57. Yank1 August 24th, 2010 at 12:18 am

    Olney said earlier today that if the Cubs make Girardi a “big” offer, the Yanks probably won’t match because after Joe Torre, they don’t want to pay their manager top-dollar.

    Girardi will smartly use the Cubs as leverage… hope Hal/Levine don’t take that personally… that’s the situation they created when they didn’t extend him last year.

  58. pat August 24th, 2010 at 12:18 am

    “There is still no test for HGH.”

    Or proof you can double your HR output by using it.

  59. Tabbert August 24th, 2010 at 12:18 am

    besty-

    those people fail to realize what job security is. If joe stays in ny he can win multiple championships and spend his entire career in ny and go down as a great yankees skipper.

    Or he can go to chicago and hopefully turn them around and if not he will be let go after a few seasons because of unrealistic/ high expectations in chicago. Its a great story that he could go back to the cubs but from a job stability/ success point it makes zero since for joe to leave.

  60. Betsy August 24th, 2010 at 12:18 am

    GB, my 1/2 birthday is 3/24!

  61. Bret The Hitman August 24th, 2010 at 12:19 am

    GreenBeret7_.

    Notice the space and the period in GreenBeret7′s imposter.

  62. Bret The Hitman August 24th, 2010 at 12:21 am

    GreenBeret7 = real GB

    GreenBeret7 . = fake GB

  63. trisha - true pinstriped blue August 24th, 2010 at 12:22 am

    “Right. And did you see that AJ can have bad games no matter who is catching him? Blaming Posada was real smart.”

    I don’t know your postings well enough to accuse you of oversight or intentional myopia so let me just say this RMS. When I was complaining about the AJ-Posada tandem it was because AJ was losing games with Posada catching and winning them with Cervelli and Molina catching. It was noticed by everyone in town, including the national media, that there was some problem between AJ and Posada and my mantra was all I cared about was the Yankees winning games so either AJ and Posada had to fix what was wrong, or Cervelli or Molina should be catching AJ.

    Apparently Joe Girardi saw the same thing because if you remember correctly he named Molina to catch AJ in the world series.

    I took a boatload of abuse from a ton of posters who couldn’t accept the fact that I had a problem with Posada catching AJ and said I was crazy (I and anyone else who agreed with me) to think they had problems with each other, that AJ had a history of inconsistency, yada yada yada.

    Well at the beginning of this season AJ admitted that they had some interpersonal problems last season but said they had worked them out over the offseason and during spring training this year. So my surmise was right all along.

    Of course I didn’t see a groundswell of posters dropping by to apologize for tapdancing all over my head after AJ said that. But I didn’t expect it either.

    So that’s how that one went.

  64. Betsy August 24th, 2010 at 12:22 am

    With the upcoming day off, I would let Phil pitch against the A’s – and skip him against the Jays (that would be his 4th time against them, 3 of them in short order). After that maybe he doesn’t have to be skipped again…………

    Tabbert, good points. I know his dad has Alzheimers and the idea of playing at home is appealing, but I can’t see him leaving this job. Joe wanted this job badly a few years ago – and his dad was sick them.

  65. Crash August 24th, 2010 at 12:22 am

    Just another instance of baseball getting too soft. First the tigers were whining about a good hard slide by Gardner. Getting dusted is part of the game. Bautista looked like an idiot that ball was no where near his head. LOL no one was holding him back either then he got more animated when Girardi and Cervelli got in between them.

    Nova pitched well and has great stuff. Mosely better watch tommorow might be his last start.

  66. Occasional Poster August 24th, 2010 at 12:23 am

    OK, I’m out. This blog is in dire need of moderation.

  67. RMS August 24th, 2010 at 12:23 am

    “It worked out well because Cervelli ended up catching him.”

    Right. And did you see that AJ can have bad games no matter who is catching him? Blaming Posada was real smart.

    ——————————————————————————————————

    Nova deserves another start.

  68. Betsy August 24th, 2010 at 12:23 am

    Oh, there’s a fake GB? Nevermind, that was the fake me, lol.

    Olney has no clue……..I’d like Joe back, but I admit that if he’s going to try and spark some kind of bidding war between the Cubs and Yanks, I’d rather just let him go.

  69. KPB August 24th, 2010 at 12:24 am

    Betsy

    Earlier this morning you left abruptly. I don’t know why, but if it’s what I said I would like to clarify. When I said you brought the team luck, I was referring to the few games they lost and the day you went they started to win again. Sorry if their were any misunderstandings.

  70. Swishalicious33 August 24th, 2010 at 12:25 am

    I’ve been coming on this site less and less because all people seem to do anymore is argue and insult each other. It’s completely juvenile, and ruins the blog, which is a shame, because there are some people who have great insight that gets lost in between all the childish name calling. Enough already.

  71. Tank August 24th, 2010 at 12:28 am

    “t I admit that if he’s going to try and spark some kind of bidding war between the Cubs and Yanks, I’d rather just let him go.”

    Why not? Hasn’t he earned that right as a FA? How is it different than a player doing it?

    Actually, he did it the first time too, if you remember— he was negotiating with the Dodgers (before they hired Torre) and Yankees in order to get more $$$ from the Yanks.

  72. Tabbert August 24th, 2010 at 12:29 am

    i would hate for joe to leave because i believe he is a great manager and i love the fact that he is a true players manager. The last thing we need is for some hardheaded veteran manager to come in and change the way things are behind the scenes. Joe has a lot to do with this team always being loose and having such great chemistry. That being said, if he were to leave i would love for tony pena to get the nod for our next manager.

  73. Rich in NJ August 24th, 2010 at 12:29 am

    It is hard to understand why they don’t realize that they should allow any other member of that team to beat them but Batista, and that is not a second-guess, it’s an obvious point, or at least it should be.

  74. Bret The Hitman August 24th, 2010 at 12:30 am

    Matt, they’re gonna ban your IP.

    Hope it was worth it.

  75. RMS August 24th, 2010 at 12:31 am

    trisha

    So what’s the story this year? AJ is lights out with Cervelli catching him? I think not. When will you realize it is AJ, not the catcher.

  76. Betsy August 24th, 2010 at 12:31 am

    KPB, lol – no, I was headed off to work and forgot to say my goodbyes. You didn’t say anything wrong at all!

  77. Betsy August 24th, 2010 at 12:32 am

    Is Matt the fake GB?

  78. Tabbert August 24th, 2010 at 12:32 am

    rich in nj-

    this is not basketball or football where you can double team someone and force the other guys to produce. Are yankee’s pitchers suppose to walk bautista every time and just allow men on base? I understand that we cant let him beat us but its not that simple. When you start putting men on base only bad things can happen. We lost a game where we only gave up three runs.. our offense should be capable of putting up more then two on the board.

  79. ZMAN August 24th, 2010 at 12:34 am

    If Joe does bolt… will be interesting to see who they bring in.

    Timeline is important too… especially if they want Mattingly, as the Dodgers will probably hire him shortly after the season ends.

    Don’t think veterans like LaRussa, Valentine, etc. would work with this group or Cash.

    Tony Pena would be the best bet, but is he too low profile for them?

    They should just pay Joe… he won a WS, he has earned a nice raise. The fact that the Cubs would be willing to pay him a lot (and the Dodgers wanted him before Torre) shows that he is valued around the league.

  80. Tabbert August 24th, 2010 at 12:34 am

    leadoff single for the angels in the 7th and that is it for james shields tonight. Angels have been on base all night and i fully expect a comeback.

  81. G. Love August 24th, 2010 at 12:35 am

    While I was impressed with Nova tonight, every pitch he threw seemed to be high in the zone.

    I’m not ready to anoint him anything, but he had impressive stuff.

    His velocity was obviously good and every 3-4 pitches, he threw something nasty and pretty unhittable.

    I think he’s worth developing here and I love the way he didn’t back down to Batista who came off like a clown tonight.

    Just wasn’t thrilled with his location in the zone but the results were excellent.

    This rotation is really an issue because I see the benefits of going 6 man (as long as you keep CC on his normal schedule) and I see the obvious benefits of putting Javy’s 2010 season and Yankee career on ice.

    If Girardi sends Javy back out there with an 86mph fastball, that is a disgrace. You can’t send the guy out there with only off speed stuff. It’s like watching Mussina try to pitch before they got him to change his approach that last season.

    As for Girardi to the Cubs, I don’t believe it for a second. I think Betsy said it best above — what take that job with no chance to win knowing you’re only there for a few years.

    Sure, the Yankees can fire Girardi at a moment’s notice, but not if he keeps them on the right path and they make the post season year in year out. At least with the Yankees you have a chance.

    The Cubs best players are all old or failing miserably. It’s a horrible situation to walk into.

    I could never see the Cubs offering him more money than the Yankees. I think the Cubs will cater to the peanut gallery and give the job to Ryne Sandberg who will cost a fraction of what Girardi would cost them in the end.

  82. Bret The Hitman August 24th, 2010 at 12:35 am

    Betsy August 24th, 2010 at 12:32 am

    Is Matt the fake GB?

    ***********

    He’s a suspect in my opinion but I could be wrong.

    We’ll know if his screen name gets bombed and we never see him here again.

  83. Matt August 24th, 2010 at 12:36 am

    Sorry to disappoint you Bret, but I don’t waste my time impersonating people on a blog since I do not stoop to your level of tossing around insults at everyone I disagree with.

  84. trisha - true pinstriped blue August 24th, 2010 at 12:36 am

    “The reason I don’t believe your “nothing can ever bother me about the team” line is that it is a direct contradiction to being a devoted fan of a team. Anyone who has vested their time and interest in such an endeavor will inevitably react to the things that take place. If you care enough to want them to win, you’ll be frustrated and disappointed when they lose. If you aren’t, then that says something else about how much you care.”

    I seriously don’t care what you believe and what you don’t believe. I grew up in a household where my mother taught us the meaning of unconditional love. That’s the way I feel about the Yankees. You apparently have trouble comprehending what I have said about this season, though, so I will try one more time.

    I ABSOLUTELY BELIEVE THE YANKEES ARE GOING TO THE POSTSEASON. I HAVE BELIEVED THAT FROM THE FIRST DAY OF THE SEASON. I ALSO ABSOLUTELY BELIEVE THEY ARE GOING TO WIN THE WORLD SERIES. SO THEREFORE ANY LOSSES THAT OCCUR DON’T BOTHER ME A WHIT.

    If you can’t comprehend that (not agree with it, comprehend it) then there is no need to go any further with that.

    And one more thing before I leave both the forum and the topic. I have no difficulty EVER with posters who are mature enough to show disappointment about a loss without acting like G-D spoiled rotten little brats who are ready to trash every Yankee player for it. It is the moronic ranting and lunatical raving that accompanies every loss that is the real kick in the teeth. I actually think it is possible to be a fan and to be gracious about losing, or act disappointed about losing, without feeling the need to act like a two-year old and trash the team and act like it’s the end of the world.

    By the way, the first time I ever addressed anything to you was tonight, and it was only in response to your response to a generic post that I made. Before that, I never read any of your posts. I heard about them, but I never read them. For whatever that’s worth.

  85. ZMAN August 24th, 2010 at 12:36 am

    “Are yankee’s pitchers suppose to walk bautista every time and just allow men on base?”

    When the hitters around him are not nearly as much of a threat, then it does make sense. Especially in that spot where 1 HR was all they needed and considering how badly he has killed us this year.

  86. theREALkevin August 24th, 2010 at 12:37 am

    Fake gb = cr9

  87. Tabbert August 24th, 2010 at 12:38 am

    zman-

    i agree with all of your points. I think guys like Larussa or valentine would be bad fits for our team. But to answer your question about tony pena.. he is not considered low profile within the baseball community. Infact, tony pena has always been highly regarded for his intelligence for the game and as a future manager and is very respected in the baseball community.

  88. Betsy August 24th, 2010 at 12:38 am

    Bret, there are too many wackos (whether it’s Matt or not) out there who know how to use a computer………….they’re like boomerangs, always a threat to return.

  89. G. Love August 24th, 2010 at 12:40 am

    Zman,

    I love Mattingly. But if for some reason Girardi decides he wants to walk, I would give the job to Tony Pena and never look back.

    In the last go round he interviewed very well and when he didn’t get the job, he never let ego get in the way of his returning as Girardi’s bench coach.

    He’s a smart man and has had success managing before and I think he would have the calming effect on the players that is needed in this market.

    I also think he’s honest and humble and would never get caught playing games with the media like someone like Guillen or Jerry Manuel on the Mets would.

    He’d be my choice if Joe left. The last thing I want to see here is some clown act with Valentine or even Larussa.

    Pena would bring class to the job and he would always have the players respect.

  90. rconn23 August 24th, 2010 at 12:40 am

    AJ is an inconsistent pitcher, and has been for his entire career. For the millionth time.,it’s Burnett’s fault, not Posada’s. This is not up for debate. It really isn’t.

    He pitched a great game with Molina catching him in Game 2 of the World Series, and then got lit up the next start. Who was catching him? Molina.

    You could put Johnny Bench behind the plate and the results would be the same. He’s the most inconsistent of pitchers.

  91. Bret The Hitman August 24th, 2010 at 12:40 am

    Matt,

    If it’s not you then I apologize. I suspected you because of the back-and-forth between you and GB.

    PS

    I don’t toss around insults on this board unless someone steps over the line with me. Most of the time, I just ignore their posts or in some cases refuse to respond to that person ever again.

  92. m August 24th, 2010 at 12:41 am

    I don’t think Girardi will go, but if he does I’ll miss him. I think he’s good. Not perfect, but I like that he’s fastidious. He’s a good bullpen “architect” and bullpen “manager”. I like that he understands the Yankee way. He’d be a good pick up for Chicago.

    Don’t really want Donnie to make his managerial debut with the Yankees. Lou is out of baseball. Valentine? meh. How about Thomson? Windmilling guys around third just isn’t his thing. ;)

    Girardi’s the best young manager in the game right now imo.

  93. GreenBeret7 August 24th, 2010 at 12:41 am

    Not a problem. It’ll get removed, as will the gutless ass. a pity that he doesn’t have the correct address.

  94. trisha - true pinstriped blue August 24th, 2010 at 12:42 am

    “trisha

    So what’s the story this year? AJ is lights out with Cervelli catching him? I think not. When will you realize it is AJ, not the catcher.”

    Last year AJ and Posada had problems with each other. It was so easy to see that you almost had to be blind not to see it. I made comment on that on the time. AJ said they had worked out their differences this year. I believe him.

    When will you realize that they had issues last year? And that I spoke to nothing beyond their having those issues.

    Don’t try to create some fiction where it doesn’t exist.

  95. Rich in NJ August 24th, 2010 at 12:42 am

    Tabbert

    Wait? You can’t pitch around a hitter, or not give him anything fat to hit, thereby forcing him to expand his zone, especially lat in the game? Who knew?

    Actually, you have more ability to control a player in baseball than in football or basketball.

  96. Tabbert August 24th, 2010 at 12:42 am

    angels score… its 4-3

  97. Betsy August 24th, 2010 at 12:43 am

    GLove, actually I meant to say that if Joe left for Chicago, then it wouldn’t have made sense that he lobbied hard for this job…….I mean, his father was sick at the time he was hired; he could have just spent time with him at home. Instead he wanted to manage the Yankees. That’s why I don’t think he’d leave here…………..

    I agree about letting Javy go out there naked – I feel bad for him because he has nothing. Let Nova take his start in Chicago (where Javy would probably get booed anyway) and Phil’s start against Toronto. After that, maybe we can avoid skipping Phil again; his next starts after that would be against Tampa or Texas

  98. Eroc August 24th, 2010 at 12:43 am

    Why not hire Jerry Manual? He is a calming influence in the clubhouse, good with the media,

  99. Bret The Hitman August 24th, 2010 at 12:43 am

    G. Love,

    Great post on Pena.

    His baseball IQ is very high and he has a very like-able personality.

    It’s a rare combination.

  100. m August 24th, 2010 at 12:44 am

    Definitely Tony Pena. Players love and respect him.

  101. Yank1 August 24th, 2010 at 12:45 am

    Maybe Cash, the trainers, and Eliand determined that rest won’t work and the only way his dead arm will strengthen is by pitching.

    That would be the only explanation for them NOT DL’ing him. Can’t blame one guy, it is an organizational decision to DL someone.

  102. Betsy August 24th, 2010 at 12:45 am

    GLove, Pena didn’t do very well as manager in KC; didn’t he have a big blow up/incident?

    The 6 man rotation is kind of interesting, but would these guys (not CC) take to pitching with extra rest? If Phil would have to be skipped anyway, I’m not sure it makes a ton of sense.

  103. IIOIIOIIO August 24th, 2010 at 12:45 am

    Eroc August 24th, 2010 at 12:43 am

    Why not hire Jerry Manual? He is a calming influence in the clubhouse, good with the media

    ———————–

    I don’t know if you’re kidding or not, but this is a terrible idea IMO.

  104. trisha - true pinstriped blue August 24th, 2010 at 12:46 am

    rconn23 -

    And nothing you’ve said negated the FACT that they had problems with each other last season, which was my entire premise about them. That’s not up for debate, it really isn’t, of course unless you disbelieve both AJ and Posada, both of whom ADMITTED they had difficulties with each other last season.

    :roll:

  105. m August 24th, 2010 at 12:46 am

    Pity, indeed.

    I was going to send a “Box of Chocolates.”

  106. theREALkevin August 24th, 2010 at 12:47 am

    Lol eroc, nice level

  107. Matt August 24th, 2010 at 12:47 am

    What you say and what you do are two different things though, Trisha, and that’s why it’s hard to take those statements seriously.

    If you believe it is acceptable to be disappointed by a loss, then don’t go attacking everyone who voices their concerns by saying they “expect a 162-0 season” and that other nonsense. You are not the supreme authority on these things, people are entitled to be upset with a loss and to be upset with the players that were the biggest contributors to it. When you invest 3 hours of your time in watching a game, because guess what, you are a FAN, then you are going to react strongly to what happens on the field.

    Nobody actually says or believes what you are claiming their argument to be, you have such a warped view of anything that isn’t 100% positive that you have convinced yourself that everyone other than a cheerleader is an insane, irrational person who breaks their television after every game.

    People use this blog to vent their frustration about a loss, so if you can’t accept that, then you are probably at the wrong place right now. People have the right to their opinions, whether they believe the team is going all the way after any win or believe the team is in trouble because they lose some games. The difference is, some of us don’t put words in other peoples’ mouths to argue otherwise. People don’t like what other peoples’ opinions are, but they don’t start insulting each other over them.

    Notice that the people who are most commonly inciting arguments on this blog by insulting other posters are the ones who “call out” people who find fault with the team. And if you’re going to try to turn this against me, realize that the reason I’m saying this to you is that I’m responding to one of your nonsense posts about “162-0″ seasons that you tout to render irrelevant the opinions of anyone who is upset after a loss. You have to realize that you are not better than everyone because you care less, you just have a different kind of fandom.

  108. Yank1 August 24th, 2010 at 12:47 am

    Eroc August 24th, 2010 at 12:43 am

    Why not hire Jerry Manual? He is a calming influence in the clubhouse, good with the media

    —————-

    If we want a clown managing the team, why not just bring in Ronald McDonald? He will probably be cheaper too and better at managing a bullpen.

  109. Tabbert August 24th, 2010 at 12:48 am

    rich in ny

    yes you can pitch around a guy but what is to say that you arent going to let a pitch get away and it land right in the sweet spot for bautista? what if men are on 1st and 2nd with 0 outs? are you suppose to pitch around bautista and risk loading the bases? Its very difficult to stop one guy from beating you in baseball. Do you think the twins went into the playoffs saying ” okay guys we cant let arod beat us” no, that is just crazy. To much can happen in baseball to base your entire approach on one hitter. The simple fact is that pitchers have to locate and make the right pitches and get the tough guys out. You cant just start conceiding baserunners because you are simply scared the guy might hit a homer.

  110. Captain Clutch August 24th, 2010 at 12:48 am

    As far as Mattingly goes there was an article the other day that said the Dodgers manager next year will be one of their minor league managers not Mattingly. I believe it said their AAA manager whoever that is. I really doubt Girardi will leave the Yankees. This is a job he has waited years for and I doubt he would leave it for a bad situation like the Cubs. If he did leave then the Yanks will replace him. Not to be rude but it’s really not a big deal.

  111. trisha - true pinstriped blue August 24th, 2010 at 12:48 am

    “angels score… its 4-3

    YAY!!!

    Talk to you tomorrow Tabbert. I should have taken Erica’s lead and bypassed all the craziness.

    :)

  112. GreenBeret7 August 24th, 2010 at 12:49 am

    Two people that will never get a GM position or a manager’s job again are Minaya and Jerry Manuel.

  113. Rich in NJ August 24th, 2010 at 12:50 am

    “While I was impressed with Nova tonight, every pitch he threw seemed to be high in the zone.

    Ground balls-fly balls – I Nova 9-7

    That would appear to at least partially rebut your point.

  114. IIOIIOIIO August 24th, 2010 at 12:51 am

    # GreenBeret7 August 24th, 2010 at 12:49 am

    Two people that will never get a GM position or a manager’s job again are Minaya and Jerry Manuel.

    ———————

    The Mets have got to finally fire Minaya before that. I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if they fire Manuel and allow Minaya to continue to act as GM.

  115. Tabbert August 24th, 2010 at 12:51 am

    have a good night trisha. Talk to you tomorrow on the yankees manager blog formerly known as lohud!

  116. Matt August 24th, 2010 at 12:52 am

    Trisha,

    Nobody can know for sure whether they disliked each other based on a few gestures on the field. The media is sensationalist, it wants to create a story out of anything. Though Molina starting the games Burnett pitched in the postseason shed some interesting light on the situation, it could just be the same thing with people making judgments about things they see on the field.

    The fact of the matter is, it’s up to these players to get over their personal differences to win games on the field. Regardless of the “problems” between players, it is always 100% on the pitcher to make his pitches and throw what he feels comfortable throwing. His performance on the field is solely his own responsibility.

    In fact, I wonder if these guys have the “problems” they have because managers cater to their every need with the personal catcher nonsense. Maybe the way to resolve these issues in communication is to have the guys play together, rather than never participating in the same battery. If you don’t catch a guy as often, it’s natural that you would not know what he wants to throw and what pitches he has confidence in lately.

  117. Rich in NJ August 24th, 2010 at 12:53 am

    Tabbert

    In a key spot late in a tie game with the bases empty, he should be pitched around, so there would be no chance to mislocate (Clemensesque?) in a big spot.

    “what if men are on 1st and 2nd with 0 outs”

    Then maybe you would have a point, but that wasn’t the situation.

  118. trisha - true pinstriped blue August 24th, 2010 at 12:54 am

    Matt -

    Y-A-W-N

    Bye now. I’ve devoted far too much time to your craziness. Talk to someone who really cares about what you have to say. I no longer do. And if you are going to cry like a little girl whenever the Yankees lose and call them all kinds of names, expect to be called out on it.

    OVAH

  119. rconn23 August 24th, 2010 at 12:57 am

    Who cares whether they had issues or even like each other?

    Greg Maddux didn’t like throwing to Javy Lopez.

    He used a different catcher, Eddie Perez. However, when he did have to thow to Javy, he still pitched well.

    Burnett seems to have alot of issues, more than just his feelings toward the catcher. For instance, his inability to command one of the TWO pitches he throw…
    Or his inability to hold runners, or his meltdown innings, or his walks, or his decrease in velocity.

    A.J. only has two pitches, fastball and curve. It’s really not a mystery to what he throws. If he’s able to command his curve, he’s got to chance to pitch a decent game.

    You keep wanting to drive home the point of problems between Burnett and Posada as a reason to why Burnett is so inconsistent. Clearly, it wasn’t and isn’t.

    Cervelli has been catching him this year. How is that working out? That’s not a knock on Cervelli. When your pitcher has no command, can’t repeat his delivery and melts down mentally, Yogi Berra won’t have success with him.

  120. trisha - true pinstriped blue August 24th, 2010 at 12:57 am

    “Nobody can know for sure whether they disliked each other based on a few gestures on the field”

    They admitted at the beginning of this season that they had problems with each other. It was reported in the press, with direct quotes. It was on a few of the beginning Yankee postgames on YES. They were directly interviewed and talked about it.

    Okay?

    I’m done.

  121. theREALkevin August 24th, 2010 at 12:58 am

    Lol @ calling someone a “little girl” and then using the phrase “yawn” to begin ur comment and “OVAH” to end it. How ironic. How mature. I love it.

  122. Tabbert August 24th, 2010 at 12:58 am

    rich in nj-

    i understand where you are coming from but robertson is our shut down 8th inning guy and joe had the confidence in him to pitch to bautista. Did it bite us in the ass? yes. But there is no way of knowing that before it happens. If robertson get out of the inning with nothing happening then were not even having this conversation. Everyday in baseball a big time hitter gets a key hit late in the game in which people could have questioned ” should we have pitched around?” Robertson had gone 19 straight scoreless inning and has been one of the best bullpen pitchers in baseball over the last month. So, joe’s mindset was that his best guy could get their best guy out. It just didn’t work today.

  123. Matt August 24th, 2010 at 12:59 am

    Thank you for fulfilling exactly what I just said about you by tossing around insults and hyperbole in response to my post.

    We are all fans of the same team, and if you can’t see that because you think that you are better than everyone else, then that’s too bad.

    Stop attacking people with your ridiculous ‘call out’ posts when you disagree with them, and maybe people will want to have real conversations with you about the team.

  124. EA August 24th, 2010 at 12:59 am

    When it comes judgment day, Girardi is not going to be able to look at the current situation – well-paid, franchise set up to win multiple titles to cement his legacy as one of the greats, stable GM/owner relationship, NYC and all the endorsements/quirks that come with it, and a clubhouse with good guys and true leadership where he doesn’t have to deal with problem players, and the first thing he has to deal with in Chi-Town is Zombrano and that headache.

    Basically, the car is already built, he just has to make sure it doesn’t crash. In Chicago, he has to tear down the car (get rid of the bad contracts, etc.) and built it back up (fix the clubhouse, groom some young players, etc.) with hopes of ONE DAY having a car close to the one he already has in NY. And the chances are, he will never build that car and will be fired and added to a long list of those who couldn’t cure the Cubs curse.
    You are going literally from one end of the baseball spectrum to the other. They have this “loveable losers” image and that covers up how morbid the franchise has been.

    And he lives in NY full-time and his kids go to school here, so it’s not like his life is already based in Chicago. His roots are there, not his current life. Makes no baseball sense on any level for him to leave.

  125. trisha - true pinstriped blue August 24th, 2010 at 1:00 am

    “You keep wanting to drive home the point of problems between Burnett and Posada as a reason to why Burnett is so inconsistent. ”

    Wrong again.

    Good night now.

  126. Matt August 24th, 2010 at 1:02 am

    Problems in communication are not the same as personal dislikes of each other.

    When you don’t play together as often because of perceived differences, then it only seems natural that you will not communicate as well, no? When you don’t know the other’s tendencies, likes, dislikes, etc, you are naturally going to have trouble venturing a guess as to what they are thinking.

    You are entitled to your opinion, but I’m also entitled to mine. I think you’re rushing to judgment, in just the way you claim the rest of us do when we get upset after a loss. It’s 100% the pitcher’s responsibility to find a way to get it done, regardless of how he feels about his catcher.

  127. SAS August 24th, 2010 at 1:04 am

    EA,

    Girardi lived in my town when he was catching. I don’t know where he lives now.

  128. KPB August 24th, 2010 at 1:06 am

    Betsy

    OK, I just wanted to make sure. I posted a link to Morgan Ensberg’s blog, don’t know if you saw it. He talks about his days playing and other things baseball. He’s pretty amusing at times also. I think you’d like it. Here’s the link

    http://morganensberg.wordpress.com/

  129. G. Love August 24th, 2010 at 1:06 am

    Betsy,

    I’m fairly certain Pena won manager of the year in KC.

    That said, I remember he quit in-season after losing like 19 games in a row.

    Not sure if he quit because he knew he was getting canned soon or if he just quit on the club.

    I’d still rather have a manager who made some mistakes at the big league level and hopefully learned from them.

    Torre was a manager who made tons of mistakes before he got here.

    Even Girardi was fighting with his owner in the stands with the Marlins.

  130. Rich in NJ August 24th, 2010 at 1:06 am

    Tabbert

    So what? If he had Mo’s resume, then OK, but he isn’t near that level, and I say that as someone who likes Robertson a lot.

    Sometimes discretion is the better part of valor.

    I tried shouting this at the TV, but apparently they didn’t hear me.

    Maybe next year, when Batista comes back to Earth, you take your chances with him.

    Not this year.

  131. KPB August 24th, 2010 at 1:07 am

    SAS

    Have you installed the ad blocker yet and if so how do you like it?

  132. theREALkevin August 24th, 2010 at 1:08 am

    Morgan ensberg is a cool guy. I’m a fan. And in all fairness to girardi, the marlins’ owner, um yeah I just don’t blame joe on that one.

  133. Crash August 24th, 2010 at 1:09 am

    m August 24th, 2010 at 12:41 am
    I don’t think Girardi will go, but if he does I’ll miss him. I think he’s good. Not perfect, but I like that he’s fastidious. He’s a good bullpen “architect” and bullpen “manager”. I like that he understands the Yankee way. He’d be a good pick up for Chicago.

    Don’t really want Donnie to make his managerial debut with the Yankees. Lou is out of baseball. Valentine? meh. How about Thomson? Windmilling guys around third just isn’t his thing.

    Girardi’s the best young manager in the game right now imo.

    ——————

    I agree Girardi is the best young manager in the game. In his first full 3 years as a manager he has a world series ring and has won manager of the year. I think he will be back. He will just use the cubs as a bargaining chip. I dont think he has a real interest in leaving the yankees.

  134. pat August 24th, 2010 at 1:10 am

    Only in NY would the media go here….

    “Seeking an educated opinion, I cornered Alex Rodriguez at his locker. “Alex,” I said, “if a guy suddenly goes from 15 home runs to 40 home runs over the course of a season, does that make your antennae go up?”

    A-Rod got that inscrutable little smile on his face, shook his head slightly, grabbed his dry cleaning and ran out of the clubhouse as fast as a man on the disabled list with a calf strain could possibly go.”

  135. SAS August 24th, 2010 at 1:11 am

    No, I didn’t. I want my son to do it so I don’t break the computer…lol You have to know the I am not very astute with the computer. It may well be my age or fear of failure

  136. KPB August 24th, 2010 at 1:11 am

    I don’t think Joe will go anywhere. Where else can you be on a team that can contend every and have a clubhouse with such a positive atmosphere?

  137. m August 24th, 2010 at 1:12 am

    lol. who was that?

  138. m August 24th, 2010 at 1:12 am

    lol. who was that?

  139. G. Love August 24th, 2010 at 1:12 am

    I wonder if Batista was motivated to act like a clown tonight because there were rumors the Yankees wanted to trade for him at the deadline, but they didn’t want to give up any top prospects.

    I could see that insulting the guy.

    Either way, I hope this series doesn’t turn into beanball bingo.

    Just go out and win the next 2 games. I had a feeling when Tex tripled tonight and we didn’t get him in from 3rd that that was going to be the game right there for some reason.

    And how that Seattle GM has a job after trading away Morrow for nothing is astonishing.

    He better hope Smoak starts hitting somewhere in that organization or his owners are going to lop his head off soon. Between trading Morrow, signing Figgins, passing on Montero, trading for Milton Bradley, etc, he has done one of the worst jobs a GM could do in a short period of time.

  140. pat August 24th, 2010 at 1:14 am

    Tex on Nova….

    “That first inning told me he’s not afraid of anything,” Teixeira said of Nova. “He got into a tough spot and he didn’t let it get to him. You don’t see that too often in a young pitcher.”

    As for the sixth-inning brouhaha, Teixeira was similarly impressed. “It didn’t rattle him,” he said. “A lot of guys would have lost their cool after something like that but it didn’t affect him one bit.”

    The same could not be said of Bautista. “I don’t know what that was all about,” Teixeira said. “It couldn’t have been the pitch. There was something else going on there, but I couldn’t tell you what it was.”

  141. IIOIIOIIO August 24th, 2010 at 1:14 am

    # pat August 24th, 2010 at 1:10 am

    Only in NY would the media go here….

    “Seeking an educated opinion, I cornered Alex Rodriguez at his locker. “Alex,” I said, “if a guy suddenly goes from 15 home runs to 40 home runs over the course of a season, does that make your antennae go up?”

    A-Rod got that inscrutable little smile on his face, shook his head slightly, grabbed his dry cleaning and ran out of the clubhouse as fast as a man on the disabled list with a calf strain could possibly go.”

    ————-

    Haha, this is too good to be true. Alex has really handled things well since his admission. I heard him talk bluntly about steroids on Francesa’s show a few weeks back before a Red Sox-Yankee game. Good for him. Who was the reporter btw?

  142. KPB August 24th, 2010 at 1:15 am

    SAS

    Understand completely about computer knowledge or lack there of. It wasn’t until this morning that I learned how to do smiling faces. :smile:

  143. rconn23 August 24th, 2010 at 1:16 am

    Soriano is just dominant. Struck out the side on 9 pitches

  144. theREALkevin August 24th, 2010 at 1:16 am

    Awful half inning there for the angels. Great pitching, but man that’s going down without much fight.

  145. pat August 24th, 2010 at 1:17 am

    m

    Wally Matthews, who else.

    The media in NY made much of your man in The Shirt to the north making uncharacteristic comments. Did you catch that story?

  146. IIOIIOIIO August 24th, 2010 at 1:17 am

    # rconn23 August 24th, 2010 at 1:16 am

    Soriano is just dominant. Struck out the side on 9 pitches

    ——————–

    …….

  147. SAS August 24th, 2010 at 1:19 am

    KPB

    There was a whole day I think on smiley faces on here one day. They are called emoticons. I still don’t do those either.

  148. SAS August 24th, 2010 at 1:20 am

    KPB,

    Somehow that annoying start of the ad is not there tonight. Maybe I installed by mistake…that would be ridiculous

  149. m August 24th, 2010 at 1:23 am

    I just read it! Only Turner said, “Brady wouldn’t fight me. I’d break his jaw.”

    Everyone else took it in stride.

    So, yeah, um. The Jets doing a reality show?

  150. SAS August 24th, 2010 at 1:27 am

    m,

    Now that it has cooled down here….how are you doing tonight?

  151. KPB August 24th, 2010 at 1:28 am

    SAS

    Agree about the ad being annoying, at first it just annoyed. But, a few days ago it started rolling down all the time for me, that I actually started getting motion sickness from it. If you did install by mistake, then see I told you it was easy.

  152. m August 24th, 2010 at 1:29 am

    Good. Would be better if we won and TB lost. haha.

    Kind of happy that Nova did well tonight. That was a rough first inning, but he settled down.

  153. SAS August 24th, 2010 at 1:41 am

    I thought Nova did a great job. With that terrific throw from Gardner and tag by Cervelli, we came out of the the first just fine. I liked his composure on the mound and look forward to seeing him again.

    I must say goodnight because I have to go to bed so I can get up and go see my grandson in the AM.

  154. Carl August 24th, 2010 at 1:52 am

    # rconn23 August 24th, 2010 at 1:16 am

    Soriano is just dominant. Struck out the side on 9 pitches

    I could strike out the Angels on 9 pitches.

  155. Pat M. August 24th, 2010 at 2:02 am

    Tough crowd here tonight…….I’ve been waiting all season for Matt to get under Tricia’s skin….This place at times needs a playground monitor…….

  156. tyanksfan36 August 24th, 2010 at 2:45 am

    Soriano is great, but what was greater was seeing him in Tampa when Cano hit that go-ahead home run off of him. There was nothing better than being in that crowd and seeing Robbie do his magic. Also, watched Bautista’s at-bats from tonights game. Looked to me like Nova pitched inside to him at his first at-bat so I dont know why Bautista would be suprised that he would pitch him inside on the second go round. Anyways. tough loss but thats why there is tomorrow.

  157. Nick in SF August 24th, 2010 at 5:36 am

    I’ve been doing some deep thinking about tonight’s game, and… ok, actually I just fell asleep with the TV on. Dreadful, I woke up with the lights on Bautista lowlights being replayed.

    The Yankees were not favored to win tonight. Tomorrow night they will be. Goodnight.

  158. blake August 24th, 2010 at 7:52 am

    I think I would probably let Nova make Javy’s start this weekend and give him an extended rest. Then depending on how Mosely does today and how you feel about him you could have Javy pick back up in his slot when it comes back around or DL Javy.

    Bautista did come off as a bit of a clown last night. That said, the Yanks have to start making someone else best them the rest of this series….doesn’t mean you walk him every time…but they have to start pitching him more carefully.

  159. upstate kate August 24th, 2010 at 7:55 am

    good job by Nova last night, he certainly gave them the opportunity to win. And Brett, just WOW. He saved the first inning and likely gave Nova a confidence boost. I hope Nova gets the opportunity to have another start.

  160. upstate kate August 24th, 2010 at 7:57 am

    Blake
    I thought the same thing about Miggy when the Yankees faced Detroit…how many times does it take before you pitch more carefully, even if you give up an unintentional walk.

  161. blake August 24th, 2010 at 7:59 am

    Kate,

    Bautista isn’t near the hitter than Cabrera is but its the same concept at least against the Yankees. He’s killed them all season so at some point you have to take that away and see what happens IMO.

  162. BumKnee August 24th, 2010 at 8:01 am

    Not mentioned in the game notes was that Curtis The Bum Granderson struck out three times, didn’t hit in the clutch, and is this year’s bust. Did I mention that he is a Bum?
    Play Kearns, put Gardner in center and get this Bum out of here.
    The new Curtis Granderson, via all this great work with Kevin Long, is a myth. Just like all the garbage we heard about him when he was traded here last winter. Dump him.

  163. Doreen August 24th, 2010 at 8:02 am

    blake -

    Judging from DRob’s post-game comments, he was pitching carefully to Bautista, but didn’t execute the pitch. That’s the thing. You can know exactly what you have to do, but you only have to miss once for it to hurt you. I don’t know what the answer is; you can’t IBB him every time. And sometimes, the more careful you’re being, the more likely you are to make a mistake.

    As a real dumb example, when I wake up early and I’m trying to be as quiet as a mouse so as not to awaken anyone else at home – that’s when I drop the can of coffee on the floor, you know? :lol:

  164. blake August 24th, 2010 at 8:12 am

    Doreen,

    I agree..I just meant they have to make better pitches to him..I know that’s easier said than done.

    That’s funny…its the same with me every morning as I try to get out of the house without waking my son…never can manage to do it ;)

  165. Betsy August 24th, 2010 at 8:15 am

    I would definitely skip Javy this week – maybe DL him – in Chicago. The Yankees have some days off, so then I would skip Phil against Toronto at home and either push everyone up a day or let Nova make that start.

  166. Doreen August 24th, 2010 at 8:16 am

    Maybe they just need not be to “freaked out” by guys like Bautista and Cabrera.

  167. blake August 24th, 2010 at 8:28 am

    the first homer Bautista hit was a pretty bad hanger by Nova. His curveball was up all night and he pretty much sat that one on a tee for him. Drob just missed his spot and he paid for it. Drob has been fantastic this year though…he’s not going to be perfect but he’s not going to be intimidated by the situation and he’s going to continue to attack hitters. I like that kid a lot.

  168. Erin August 24th, 2010 at 8:30 am

    I was really impressed with Nova last night.

    And I’m really starting to dislike Jose Bautista. ;)

  169. Doreen August 24th, 2010 at 8:31 am

    blake -

    Nothing to not like about DRob. :)

  170. upstate kate August 24th, 2010 at 8:32 am

    Blake/Doreen
    good points, I am sure they intend to pitch carefully, it just doesn’t always happen.

    Blake
    once your son is a teen, he will sleep thru anything :)

  171. Betsy August 24th, 2010 at 8:35 am

    I love D-Rob’s quotes after the game……………..I hope he has a chance to “redeem” himself tonight.

  172. Fran the original August 24th, 2010 at 8:38 am

    And I’m really starting to dislike Jose Bautista
    **************************
    Good morning everyone.

    I already dislike Bautista. I thought the same thing about PEDs with his sudden burst of power. I guess now that anytime a player suddenly “outperforms the back of his baseball card” there is a suspicion of PEDs.

    Good job by Nova last night. That 1st inning showed me something. He could have fallen apart right there.

  173. Betsy August 24th, 2010 at 8:42 am

    I have to go to work, but it’s really nice to see some of the Yankees’ young arms come up and contribute……

  174. upstate kate August 24th, 2010 at 8:44 am

    deserved or not, the PED question does go thru your mind

    I guess I didn’t realize that GGBG had such a great arm. I always liked him, but he has far exceeded my expectations…and have to give Cisco credit for blocking the plate. That play was a real game changer.

  175. 108 stitches August 24th, 2010 at 8:44 am

    Another week before the rosters can be expanded. That gives a lttle breathing room to make rotation decisions which should include Nova and virtually “resting” Vazquez.
    Having Thursday as an off day helps.

  176. blake August 24th, 2010 at 8:44 am

    Kate,

    We can only hope ;)

  177. MTU August 24th, 2010 at 8:55 am

    Kate-

    Morning. That play by GGBG helped save Nova’s bacon. After that first inning he really settled down, and if not for the mistake to Bautista he probably would have put up only zero’s.

    Pitch around him for the rest of the series. Don’t let him be the difference maker.

    Nova should defintiely get another start.

  178. BIG AL August 24th, 2010 at 9:04 am

    MTU -

    Good morning. Reading through some comments from last night, and find it disturbing that someone put GB7 name and address on the blog. I don’t care how much you disagree, or perhaps dislike a person, there is no reason to do that. I hope the info put out there was false.

  179. blake August 24th, 2010 at 9:06 am

    I would guess Nova was brought up at least in part to give Girardi the option of skipping Javy or having a Guy ready in case he were to be DLed. Nova will be on regular rest when Javys turn comes up I believe.

  180. BIG AL August 24th, 2010 at 9:07 am

    I agree, Nova did a fine job last night, I was impressed how he came back so strong after the 1st inning.

  181. Erin August 24th, 2010 at 9:08 am

    New Post: Nova gives the Yankees a rotation alternative

    :arrow:

  182. MTU August 24th, 2010 at 9:13 am

    AL-

    Some of what goes on here is over the top. No doubt about it.

    Between the cheap shot artists, internet tough guys, and downright loonies it’s no wonder that many people would rather just avoid all the BS.

    Registration seems to have helped but not completely. IMO, more is needed.

    The person who put that out better hope they don’t ever meet up with GB because he’ll just eat their lunch, and laugh about it.

  183. Sparky August 24th, 2010 at 2:52 pm

    “Say what you will about Bautista’s sudden surge of home runs. I know it creates plenty of suspicion. I’m not one to get caught up in it”.

    Yo, Chad, it is your responsibility to get caught up in it. One reason the drug problem exists in baseball is that journalists ignored it for so long, especially during the Sosa/McGwire farce.

    Bautista doesn’t go from 16 home runs to 52 (projected) because he cut out fried food. Drug testing in baseball is a total joke, where any moron can avoid testing positive. It’s the job of the press to question any suspicious performance and to put pressure on baseball & the Player’s Union to make sincere efforts to weed out the cheats. That means WADA style testing & punishment.


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