A few off day links
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Aug 26, 2010 
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When I got to my hotel this afternoon, I took a few minutes to walk around Chicago before grabbing a sandwich and heading up to my room for an afternoon of writing off-day and Sunday stories. As I got on the elevator, a couple said goodbye to a guy who had been walking with them, then joined me and pressed the No. 10. After about 10 seconds the woman said this.
“If you decide to hire him, he’s going to have to get rid of those shoes.”
So, if you or someone you know made a questionable footwear decision before interviewing for a job in downtown Chicago this afternoon, that decision did not go unnoticed. Best of luck anyway.
On to a few links on this gorgeous off day in the middle of the country. Most of them have to do with the minor league system. Including some late news out of Scranton where potential September call-up Romulo Sanchez has been placed on the disabled list.
• In Triple-A, closer Jonathan Albaladejo is wrapping his historic season. “He’s marching it up there at 95 and he has a good breaking ball,” Toledo manager and former big leaguer Larry Parrish said. “There’s a big gap between his fastball and his off-speed stuff. But he also has the right makeup. He likes to be out there when the game is on the line.”
• In Double-A, Brandon Laird was named to the Eastern League postseason all-star team. I don’t think anyone in the system has had a bigger breakout year than Laird. It’s already earned him a spot in Triple-A.
• In High-A, Brad Suttle is finally healthy and producing in Tampa.
• In Low-A, it’s Brett Marshall who’s been producing out of the Charleston rotation. He hasn’t lost since July 26.
• Good stuff over at River Ave. Blues, which looked back and found some familiar questions that haunted the Yankees at this time last year. “I find myself doing this all the time,” Mike Axisa wrote, “saying that this year’s team doesn’t make me feel as confident as last year’s, but you know what? That’s a load of crap. The only reason we feel that way is because we know what happened at the end of last season.”
• The Japanese team from the Little League World Series met with Kei Igawa today. The same thing happened last year, and it was awesome. The Little League World Series is on quite a bit in baseball clubhouses, and those kids were like celebrities when they came through last year. Their shortstop barely came up to my knee, but the kid could play!
• If you haven’t already, check the NoMaas interview with Mark Newman. From the interview, here’s Newman’s take on Jesus Montero’s development behind the plate: “Very well. Better than I had hoped. He’s throwing in the 1.9s consistently with accuracy. He’s receiving well and growing as a game-caller.”
• The White Sox have placed reliever Matt Thornton and J.J. Putz on the disabled list. Not bad timing for the Yankees.
• Speaking of White Sox moves, Chicago is still in on Manny Ramirez, but there’s no deal just yet.
• Apparently I goofed yesterday morning when I mentioned Mark Melancon. I listed his Triple-A stats, but he’s in Houston now and has been a little bit up and down. In seven innings he’s walked four, but all of the walks came in two of his six outings. Half of them came while he threw three scoreless against the Phillies on Tuesday.
Now that we?ve talked managers ? what about players?
Cliff Lee ? Yankees. I would be legitimately shocked if he went anywhere else.
Carl Crawford ? Angels. I think Matsui is done out there (and no, he?s not coming back to NY) they?ll move Abreu to DH, Juan Rivera to RF and Crawford in LF with Hunter in the middle.
Jayson Werth ? Boston. They desperately need another bat in that lineup, especially if Ortiz isn?t brought back
Adam Dunn ? Nats. He wants to be there, they want him there. The money will work itself out.
Paul Konerko ? Rangers. After trading Justin Smoak they need a 1b and new ownership is going to want to make a splash (especially after losing Cliff Lee). While that team will need pitching, the market?s thin and so I think they fill this need at 1b.
Ted Lilly ? Rangers. As I said, they?re going to need to replace Cliff Lee. I think this will be a terrible horrible awful mistake, but ultimately one they?ll make.
Javy Vazquez ? Nationals. With so many young pitchers they?re going to want someone who can gobble up innings. Javy will be a lot better back in the NL East than he has been for the Yankees. I originally thought he would be a great fit for the Mets but I believe they will trade for a pitcher
(Side note for the trade: Mets send Jose Reyes to the Rays for Matt Garza. Rays are getting nothing out of SS from Bartlett this year and will need a leadoff hitter after they lose Crawford. With Hellickson on the rise they can afford to part with Garza. For the Mets, trading Reyes helps change the culture of a team that is in desperate need of a culture change)
Carlos Pena ? Tampa
Jake Westbrook ? he?ll stay in St. Louis if they?ll let him.
As for the Yankee free agents:
Already covered Javy
Kerry Wood ? I think he comes back if he?s willing to accept a major paycut
Austin Kearns ? I believe he?s going to look for a starting role; but if he?s willing I bring him back
Berkman ? gone
Thames ? I think he could be brought back. He?s done a fantastic job as a RH bat off the bench; but I think if Montero is brought up and Laird is a part of the bench I?m not sure they?ll need his services
“So, if you or someone you know made a questionable footwear decision before interviewing for a job in downtown Chicago this afternoon, that decision did not go unnoticed. Best of luck anyway”
Chad, thanks. I really enjoy the humor in your posts….
Chad, I almost never comment here but read all the time. Your bad shoe choice story is hilarious. Definitely calls for a shout out.
“Managing the Cubs probably is Joe’s dream job, but right now the timing isn’t right,” said Bob Manning, a close friend of Girardi’s since grade school. “Maybe after winning another World Series or two with the Yankees he’ll want to take on that challenge. But in Joe’s mind it’s all about winning and he knows the Yankees are committed to that.”
http://www.chicagotribune.com/.....804.column
Chip
Trading Reyes would change the culture of the Mets but would Tampa want him and Upton together?
Love the shoe story. That lady sounds like a firecracker.
I think Girardi has his dream job. He can manage the Cubbies after the Yankees eventually run him out of town.
If Joe wants to manage the Cubs he’d be wise to wait and give them time to clean up that mess of a roster.
# MaineYankee August 26th, 2010 at 9:22 pm
If Joe wants to manage the Cubs he’d be wise to wait and give them time to clean up that mess of a roster.
Yeah because I can say 100 percent that the next manager of the cubs will be fired at some point.
Gary Sanchez is having some season – especially for a 17 year old. Coming into the season he was a kid you had to be excited about. But even then he’s wildly exceeded expectations.
He tore through the GCL and was by far the best player there even though he was one of the youngest players in the league. He put up an OPS of around 1.050. Despite missing 2 weeks or so with an oblique injury he was very close to winning the triple crown in the GCL.
The yankees promoted him to Staten Island which was very unusual for them to push a 17 year old up that fast, especially an international signee.
Sanchez hit his first home run today at Staten Island after 4 games of being down there. He’s literally playing against some kids who are 5 years older than him. The pitcher he hit a home run off of tonight was a 20 year old who entered the NY Pen league out of college.
You don’t see kids with hit tools like this very often – especially at the catcher position.
Sanchez has a shot to be the best prospect in baseball in 2-3 years.
Just say no to Trey Hillman, dude has no idea how to command respect in a major league clubhouse. Regardless of how innovative or smart or teachery he is supposed to be, it hasn’t manifested on the field.
The Royals were supposed to get better fundamentally, and they actually just got markedly worse.
There was a good JoePos article about Hillman (who I wanted to manage the yankees, if Girardi didn’t get it, but I think I’m solidly in Pena’s camp if for some reason we lose Joe)
Chip – that’s two for two.
It would be a very bold move by the Mets to move Reyes for Garza. I don’t think they’d do it for a couple reasons –
1. They would need a SS to replace Reyes – not impossible, especially for a pitcher of Garza’s quality – but it would paralyze the Mets, who can’t think more than one step at a time.
2. The Wilpon’s supposedly love Reyes. I really can’t imagine why.
3. It would be a bold move, and the Mets don’t do bold moves. Well, they did make that trade of Scott Kazmir for Victor Zambrano, but that was bold and bad. They do bad all they time.
CB,
I asked earlier today for people’s top ten Yankee prospects. I am wondering where you would rank them now?
In the Chicago Tribune article, Harold Reynolds talks about living in Torre’s shadow. As a Yankee fan and I think lots of others on here, I don’t think of Girardi living in Torre’s shadow one bit.
Ian Kennedy tonight versus the first place San Diego Padres—7 innings pitched–no runs–one hit–12 k’s. Not to fret–we have Javier Kazquez and Curtis the Bum Granderson.
CB
How is Sanchez’s defense behind the plate? Can he/will he stick at that position?
The Yanks starting pitching is frightening. Mosely is seriously their 2nd most dependable starter right now. Burnett has been awful, Vazquez was a bust, Hughes appears to have hit a wall and Pettitte is on the DL and I’ve got a sick feeling he might not get back. Anyone think CC’s not by far the most valuable Yankee. It’s not even close. Hope AJ finds it and Pettitte get back or it could be an awful Sept and early exit for the champs. Here’s hoping the pitching improves.
an Kennedy tonight versus the first place San Diego Padres—7 innings pitched–no runs–one hit–12 k’s. Not to fret–we have Javier Kazquez and Curtis the Bum Granderson.
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Pitching IN PETCO. An extreme pitcher’s park, Kennedy has a 4.4 ERA in the NL WEST a terrible division full of pitcher’s parks, gives up almsot as many Hrs as Javy does in pitchers park.
you are the worst troll
LGY,
Sorry to cut in my list would be as follows:
1 Montero
2 Romine
3 betances
4 Banuelos
5 Brackman
6 Sanchez
7 Heathcott slade
8 Noesi
9 Culver
10 Jr Murphy
Honorable mention: Laird, phelps, dj mitchel
Jerkface – I’d be interested in reading that Joe Pos article if you can get a link. I recall that Cash was really impressed with Hillman.
By the way, “Jerkface” is such a bizarre screen name.
jerkface—and you are the worst jerk. He also pitches in Arizona which is a launching pad. He also struck out 12 men and when you do that –you can pitch in Williamsport Pa. You know zero.
luis,
No problem! The question was for everyone and would like to see more
QB clinic being put on display on ESPN
bankers hours August 26th, 2010 at 9:39 pm
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Isn’t it after hours for you?
LGY-
Right now:
-Montero
-Brackman
-Romine
-Sanchez
-Betances
-Banuelos
-Heathcott
-Adams
-Noesi
-Ramirez
Something like that. It’s really splitting hairs in many ways as the talents are so close. It’s more like they fall out in levels
But depending on how the season finishes that could change because how the kids do after promotion will matter.
I could see Sanchez being #2 on that list and Betances and Banuelos being higher and jumping in front of Romine.
jerkface—and you are the worst jerk. He also pitches in Arizona which is a launching pad. He also struck out 12 men and when you do that –you can pitch in Williamsport Pa. You know zero.
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He struck out 12 Padres, the 3rd worst offense in the major leagues. Kennedy has pitched more innings on the road than at home. And given up more HRs away as well!
Kennedy would get eaten alive in the AL east. Good trade by Cash.
http://www.youtube.com/user/mashmore98
Mike mashmore’s youtube acct… he has some clips of Trenton players of interests … if anyone is interested.
There may have been another article, I’m not about to re-read this beast to verify everything is in there, but it should be illuminating:
http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlo.....y-hillman/
The guy praising Kennedy now was the first chump who wanted him run out of town in 2008.
I guess that’s how trolls roll these days.
more brilliance from Jerkface. The comments speak for themselves. Too bad you don’t get eaten alive. but no one likes the taste of poop.
Didn’t players on the Royals start calling Hillman “Michael” because he was like the Boss from the ‘Office’?
Padres 13th easiest team in the major leagues to strike out.
“How is Sanchez’s defense behind the plate? Can he/will he stick at that position?”
He’s 17 and almost no 17 years old are going to be well rounded defensively. He has a lot of work to do I’m sure.
But there’s no real reason or indication that makes one believe he would have to move off of catcher in the future.
This isn’t like Montero. Sanchez is very big and strong for his age but he doesn’t look like he’s going to have to move.
Romine and Murphy are both good prospects. They aren’t close to being as talented as Sanchez. It’s really remarkable what Sanchez has done.
Padres batting worse than granderson as a team.
Giuseppe Baldhead–and you know this from 2008? You remember my comment? Please don’t tesify in any court of law.
Padres home ballpark deflates hits, doubles, triples, home runs, runs, walks by 20%
CB August 26th, 2010 at 9:49 pm
“How is Sanchez’s defense behind the plate? Can he/will he stick at that position?”
He’s 17 and almost no 17 years old are going to be well rounded defensively. He has a lot of work to do I’m sure.
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you comments kinda made me realized that how amazing that it was Pudge caught half of season in ML as 19 year old.
CB,
You place brackman at number two, wow !!\
Padres in first place. Jerkface in the bottom of the birdcage.
“It’s really splitting hairs in many ways as the talents are so close. It’s more like they fall out in levels”
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Thanks. Yeah, I was interested in how people ranked 2-10 because you could really make a case for a ton of different combinations.
Jerkface August 26th, 2010 at 9:50 pm
Padres home ballpark deflates hits, doubles, triples, home runs, runs, walks by 20%
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jerk , we get it , how about settle on Kennedy has pitched well tonight.
Padres were once struck out 13 times by Felipe Paulino. and have been struck out 12 or more 9 times this year.
what else does girardi have to prove in new york.he won a championship.now he will have a chance to go home to manage the cubs and still be with his ailing father.his replacement could be a name from this group,tony larussa,don mattingly,tino martinez,jim leyland,bobby cox,lou piniella,and tony pena. does anyone have other possible names ?
Two days ago a little known infielder named Joquin Aries was designated for assignment by the Rangers. He was the infamous player to be named later in the Arod for Soriano Yankee Texas Ranger trade in 2003. That year the Yanks gave Texas the choice of 2 low level infielders to choose from. Texas chose Joquin Aries. The infielder they passed on was Robinson Cano. Sometimes you’re better lucky than good.
How does Petco Park do on strikeouts? Different there, as well? Did Wyatt Earp allow all the strikeouts there?
How does Petco Park do on strikeouts?
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If you’re pitching against the padres its very easy to get strike outs.
luis,
I also went with Brackmonster 2 because I value pitching and with all the catching depth in the system I feel that Brackman can have a bigger impact than Romine in the near future. To a lesser extent, Romine has also struggled the 2nd half of the season after having a great first half.
jerkface—at least you tell the truth about one thing–your name.
Yup–the padress are in first place because they’ve had a slew of games this year where they’ve been shut out for 7 innings, got one single, and struck out 12 times in their home ball park. Sounds logical to me. Keep talking nonsense. It suits you.
“Thanks. Yeah, I was interested in how people ranked 2-10 because you could really make a case for a ton of different combinations.”
It really doesn’t matter so much how they are arranged.
Just based on tools and talent – Montero and Sanchez and perhaps Brackman are probably on their own level and then Betances and Banuelos and then it’s everyone else. Sanchez being so far away obviously has to bump him down some on how you rank prospects. He’s a huge talent. Some kids can just flat out rake and he looks like he’s one.
The Yankees entire top 12-13 is very, very good.
By the way, Chad – you should be taking better care of yourself. A sandwich? In a city with the dining possibilities of Chicago?
Yup–the padress are in first place because they’ve had a slew of games this year where they’ve been shut out for 7 innings, got one single, and struck out 12 times in their home ball park. Sounds logical to me. Keep talking nonsense. It suits you.
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They have scored the 13th fewest runs in the major leagues. Whats so outrageous about them losing games in such a manner? They are one of the worst offenses in the league. They are basically winning because they have a 2 ERA at home and very good defense.
I saw Banuelos pitch in Tampa last month…he looks like he has terrific stuff despite his shorter frame.
LGY,
You have a very good argument there, but placing him on top of Betances, i don’t know, i think betances stuff is much more refined at this point in time. I understand that Brackmonster’s off speed offerings are not yet on the plus side while betances change up and curveball are
I suppose if a team is in first place they get some sort of magical property like “+10 to non-existent offense” or something. Like when the orioles were in first place that one time, no way they were gonna lose, they were in first!
Who cares if the Padres are in first. Their division is a disaster.
Imagine if the Yankees ever became a player developmental powerhouse. A pipeline of Young impact talent to go along with the ability to sign anybody they want….
In the future NY will have Montero as the DH/Catcher and Sanchez the starting Catcher. That’s not a bad catching tandem there.
Jerkface–the REAL DISASTER? Take a gander at the guy who shaves you tomorrow morning. You know as much about baseball as Barack knows about Mosque building.
Joe,
If that sandwich has some juicy roast beef in it, that isn’t bad place to start.
One of my all time favorite artery cloggers.
According to a very reputable news organization I think that makes me a super expert.
You’re wasting your time here CrumbBum. You’re overmatched.
The only entity in baseball to strike out more than the Padres is Austin Jackson. Sickening.
yea you’re an expert for sure. And Governor Paterson is a sharpshooter on a SWAT Team. Congratulations.
jerkface – thanks for the link. A well written piece, the usual for Posnanski. It clearly paints the picture of someone in over his head. Whether it’s accurate, I don’t know, obviously, but it’s still tells a good story.
It also leaves one with the impression of how complex it is to be a major league manager. So much of it is more than tactical in-game decisions. And, it varies from clubhouse to clubhouse.
Giuseppe Franco August 26th, 2010 at 10:09 pm
Joe,
If that sandwich has some juicy roast beef in it, that isn’t bad place to start.
One of my all time favorite artery cloggers
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Email me 2 large roast beef sandwiches….one with extra mustard and one with a large slopping helping of mayonnaise. If you can’t get sourdough buns, put ‘em on whole wheat. I don’t want anybody to think that I don’t eat healthy.
Jerkface–Rookie of the Year Austin Jackson? And former strikeout leader in the American League Curtis Granderson?
It also leaves one with the impression of how complex it is to be a major league manager. So much of it is more than tactical in-game decisions. And, it varies from clubhouse to clubhouse.
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There are many things that are largely hidden from the public which goes into managing. I’m confident I could make very good tactical / bullpen / roster decisions as a major league manager, but hell if I’m gonna control 25 grown men who are likely mostly Type-A personalities.
And it really shows how guys without significant major league/minor league playing time can lose their respect rather quickly.
Its a shame because he was a very good manager in Japan and supposedly had some good ideas.
Hard to imagine a kid can do that at 17…
Watched most of the Scranton game tonight. Montero really doesn’t look all that bad behind the plate to me. He’s just really big and I think folks factor that into their projections of whether he can stick behind the plate long term. If he keeps his weight and conditioning in check then I think there is a good chance he can play there at least a few years (perhaps until Gary is ready).
CB, would you say Brackman has the highest upside of the “3 B’s” or do you rank him highest because he’s farthest along developmentally?
Rookie of the Year Austin Jackson
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Austin Jackson isn’t even the best rookie on his team. And he also won’t win rookie of the year.
Granderson might strike out some, but atleast he can hit a HR.
GF – Lipitor is good medicine.
And on that note – I’m done for the night. Thanks for the discussion on an off-night, guys. See you all tomorrow. When we WILL win.
So it shall be done.
The only player hitting worse against lefties than Curtis Granderson is Austin Jackson.
Thanks for the heads up, Chad… now I feel pretty bad about my job prospects, but at least I have comfortable feet.
Cliff Lee getting knocked around again tonight. Missing locations and has gotten squeezed several times in the game.
Obviously you haven’t looked at the other guy’s numbers lately. He is in a freefall. Why am I not surprised you think with your appendix?
Montero had a rough 7th/8th inning tonight. bottom of the 7th, he fouled a pitch off of his shin or ankle and in the top of the 8th, took a foul tip in the cup.
“# BumKnee August 26th, 2010 at 10:15 pm
Jerkface–Rookie of the Year Austin Jackson? And former strikeout leader in the American League Curtis Granderson?”
LOL seriously? Even Boesch is having a better rookie year than AJax…and Neftali Feliz will win the ROY.
And yet his numbers are still better than Ajax, but I never said Boesch was going to win rookie of the year, just that he was better than Austin Jackson.
Nice clutch he had in the 9th inning last night. He’s a bum. It was a brutal trade and you admit as much when you recognize that he can’t hit lefties, never will, and is a .250 platoon player at best. Go drink your Ovaltine and pray for a new brain.
# GreenBeret7 August 26th, 2010 at 10:14 pm
Email me 2 large roast beef sandwiches….one with extra mustard and one with a large slopping helping of mayonnaise. If you can’t get sourdough buns, put ‘em on whole wheat. I don’t want anybody to think that I don’t eat healthy.
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If that’s the case, I guess I ate much more healthy than I thought in years past.
I’ll be glad to email you those sandwiches as long as you don’t respond with Nurse Karloff. LOL.
That would be rude.
And who is your Rookie of the Year? Funny, many analysts predict Jackson.
” Their shortstop barely came up to my knee, but the kid could play!”
Now tell us about the time you met Pedroia.
GB7,
Who do you think right now is the best prospect from Brackman and Betances and why??
By the way if you read my previous post you know where i stand
Granderson’s OPS over the past 14 games is 1.003
Austin Jackson has OPS’d 1 for 1 game this year. Granderson has 3 periods between 5 and 9 games where he has OPS’d over 1.
GF,
I was just scrolling through some earlier threads. Glad to hear you are feeling better. Sounds great…congrats.
Rich–Boesch is hitting about a buck fifty since the All Star break. Is the heat and humidity getting to you down there?
And who is your Rookie of the Year? Funny, many analysts predict Jackson.
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Neftali Feliz , closer of a playoff team.
I interrupt this broadcast to say, if you love baseball you have to love what’s happening in DC. I just got in from a movie (great flick, Sundance winner, Winter’s Bone) to find that those pesky Nats are in the bottom of the 10th inning with St. Louis, knotted in a 10-10 game!
When I left to go to the movies St. Louis was winning 5-3.
Gotta love those Nats! (Well I do anyway!)
Okay, as you was.
Rich–Boesch is hitting about a buck fifty since the All Star break. Is the heat and humidity getting to you down there?
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He has 61 RBIs, and 14 HRs. Austin Jackson does edge him in strike outs though.
John Jaso, catcher for the playoff Tampa Rays is hitting better than Austin Jackson, and he is a rookie.
Giuseppe Franco August 26th, 2010 at 10:22 pm
# GreenBeret7 August 26th, 2010 at 10:14 pm
Email me 2 large roast beef sandwiches….one with extra mustard and one with a large slopping helping of mayonnaise. If you can’t get sourdough buns, put ‘em on whole wheat. I don’t want anybody to think that I don’t eat healthy.
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If that’s the case, I guess I ate much more healthy than I thought in years past.
I’ll be glad to email you those sandwiches as long as you don’t respond with Nurse Karloff. LOL.
That would be rude.
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That’s the one thing I miss about SF. The food. Loved Alioto’s #9 down on the wharf and Stage Door Deli on Geary Street. They made the best Corned beef and pastrami on sourdough bread, anywhere.
As far as Nurse Karloff, you’re safe for now. I had her shipped off to spend a lot of “quality time” with Randy. He’s sure to thank me for the surprise.
Anyone can select stats for a specified period of time to argue their point. Granderson was zero for the ninth inning last night when it mattered most. For the season, Jackson has bettered Granderson. By a mile. He is also much younger, a better centerfielder, and commands less than 10% of the Bum’s salary.
Couldn’t help but notice tonight that Detroit handled the Jays with ease. Baseball is funny sometimes. Just goes to show you that teams gear up more for the Yanks and let down against more level competition.
Thanks, blake. I appreciate that.
Jackson hits lead off so rbi’s are a moot point. Much as they were for Granderson before this year.
Granderson has more RBIs and HRs and 1 less walk than Austin Jackson with 120 less plate appearances.
Curtis Granderson had nearly double the amount of RBIs Ajax has when he bat leadoff for the Tigers. I literally cannot believe how bad you are at this.
luis August 26th, 2010 at 10:24 pm
GB7,
Who do you think right now is the best prospect from Brackman and Betances and why??
By the way if you read my previous post you know where i stand
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Luis….tough decision, so I’ll just go with 1 and 1A. Slot ‘em where you like. The only thing that I’d do that wouldn’t make people happy and will get shouted down is to groom Brackman for the closer’s role.
BumKnee is a dumbass. Don’t waste your time talking to him.
Austin Jackson batted .400 tonight and if we pro-rate the number of runs he scored tonight over a full season, he would have 162. That’s the type of nonsensical statistics you like to cite. Know this—Curtis Granderson has been labeled by all of baseball as a total bust. And the reason he has is because he is. To the contrary—universally Austin Jackson has received the nearly unamious praise from reportera, analysts, players and managers.
Think about yourself when you conclude who is bad at this.
GB7,
Who do you think right now is the best prospect from Brackman and Betances and why??
By the way if you read my previous post you know where i stand
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Luis….tough decision, so I’ll just go with 1 and 1A. Slot ‘em where you like. The only thing that I’d do that wouldn’t make people happy and will get shouted down is to groom Brackman for the closer’s role.
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I think you are on to something there because as i wrote before i don’t think Brackman’s off speed stuff is on the plus side just yet, and may never will. Just like with mariano bck in 95
GB,
I’ve lived a sheltered life. Never been to SF or the West Coast for that matter. Hell, I’ve never even been to NY.
Ever seen Man vs Food? I had never watched it, but heard a lot about it, until one night I was in the hospital early this year and flipped it on due to extreme boredom. Not usually my kind of show but it is mildly entertaining at times.
Every city in America has some legendary food joints and he dines at the most famous ones. I’ll be amazed if the dude doesn’t die of a massive heart attack by his 50th birthday.
Carl–do you own a slingblade? Do you sharpen lawnmower blades? Do you have any books on Christmas?
Austin Jackson has been universally regarded as incredibly lucky and likely not to succeed unless he undergoes major overhauls to his swing.
Universally in your feeble universe of a brain. Show me one sentence in print where he has been labeled as lucky. You can’t.
luis August 26th, 2010 at 10:39 pm
GB7,
Who do you think right now is the best prospect from Brackman and Betances and why??
By the way if you read my previous post you know where i stand
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Luis….tough decision, so I’ll just go with 1 and 1A. Slot ‘em where you like. The only thing that I’d do that wouldn’t make people happy and will get shouted down is to groom Brackman for the closer’s role.
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I think you are on to something there because as i wrote before i don’t think Brackman’s off speed stuff is on the plus side just yet, and may never will. Just like with mariano bck in 95
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Brackman has one of the nastiest curves in the system. Hard, quick break. He’s moving along well, considering how little he’s pitched since entering college in 2005. That fastball, curve and especially that hulking size would scare most hitters into running home to their mommies once he has a couple days of growth on his face.
lol
BumKnee
Get Curtis Granderson’s balls out of your mouth. If you hate him so much I can give you a link to his Yahoo blog and you can troll him there.
loser.
“CB, would you say Brackman has the highest upside of the “3 B’s” or do you rank him highest because he’s farthest along developmentally?”
Blake-
Brackman does have the highest upside in theory. In essence his upside in theory would be one of the 2-3 best pitchers in baseball.
That said, I’m not sure what his probability of reaching that potential is. Brackman’s done a remarkable job of cutting down his walks. He’s now got good control.
My question on him now is that he seems to have had to edit down his stuff some in order to master that control. The trade off is clearly more than worth it. But what the probability of him reaching his full potential is depends on how much he’s able to fully unleash his stuff while still maintaining his control.
Back in spring training he looked very mechanical to me. Like he had decomposed his delivery into pieces in order to make sure he could repeat it and throw strikes. I think that’s gotten better and hopefully will continue to smooth out so that he can just throw and forget about how he’s doing it.
I’m hopeful that’s the next step for him. He’s had a very odd developmental pathway but that’s not too surprising given his height. You didn’t know how it would be strange but you knew it would be a very twisted path.
In some ways I feel a bit better about Betances than Brackman as Betances seems like he’s now able to throw with the full range of his stuff and do so with excellent control. The issue with Betances is just health and innings.
Universally in your feeble universe of a brain. Show me one sentence in print where he has been labeled as lucky. You can’t.
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I’m the Yankee Universe. Scouts say that. You’ll just have to talk to the scouts.
lol
Good point GB
As far as overhauling a swing–Granderson had flatlined when he went on his knees to Kevin Long. Long put the paddles on him and restored a heartbeat. Does that mean that Granderson is cured? Not by a longshot. The patient has terminal and inoperable heart disease. He will be right back in intensive care where he once was. Then he will be gone. Thankfully.
Yeah, Brackman sure would be some kind of presence coming out to pitch the 9th.
And it would probably only take him about 10 steps to get from the Yankee bullpen to the pitcher’s mound.
Giuseppe Franco August 26th, 2010 at 10:39 pm
GB,
I’ve lived a sheltered life. Never been to SF or the West Coast for that matter. Hell, I’ve never even been to NY.
Ever seen Man vs Food? I had never watched it, but heard a lot about it, until one night I was in the hospital early this year and flipped it on due to extreme boredom. Not usually my kind of show but it is mildly entertaining at times.
Every city in America has some legendary food joints and he dines at the most famous ones. I’ll be amazed if the dude doesn’t die of a massive heart attack by his 50th birthday.
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GF, other than the ball games, I rarely watch anything on TV except the Military Channel and old movies. Never could deal with the reality type shows. Actually, my food tastes are quite simple. If it fits in a microwave or opened with a can opener, it’s French cuisine.
Seriously, I just like a good steak, baked potato and a salad.
Carl—do you get moist when you read Granderson’s blog? Do you find yourself there more than you should be? Are you skipping family functions in order to be there? Did a girl beat you out for your Little League Team?
You used too many stupid analogies. -10 points.
GB,
Corned beef and pastrami go on NY Style rye bread. New York is the best in that category. SF’s is pretty marvelous though. Geez, I haven’t been there in close to 20 years. Beautiful city.
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GF,
Now that you are feeling better, you should try to get to both coasts. The East coast in May or later and the West could be earlier. They are very special. Chicago is special too in other ways.
CB…….Unleach his stuff while maintaining his control…….Sounds like the same conversation the Mariners had some 18 years ago with a guy by the name of Randy Johnson
And also stupid metaphors.
Uh oh. Pujols is down on the field. And now he’s up.
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“Couldn’t help but notice tonight that Detroit handled the Jays with ease. Baseball is funny sometimes. Just goes to show you that teams gear up more for the Yanks and let down against more level competition”
Although I definitely agree with that observation, I also have to point out that Max Scherzer (I own him in our fantasy league) was pitching for Detroit and if you remember he’s the pitcher who absolutely dominated the Yanks when Detroit was last at the Stadium. And Ricky Romero has been having a little bit of a hard time lately. So you also need to look at the pitching matchups.
My question on him now is that he seems to have had to edit down his stuff some in order to master that control. The trade off is clearly more than worth it. But what the probability of him reaching his full potential is depends on how much he’s able to fully unleash his stuff while still maintaining his control.
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I am assuming when you say fully unleash , CB, you meant he can possibly throw harder and is sacrifice velo for control in this case. Do you think he is holding back.
how about Betance, it appears he has gained back his pre injury velo and gain better control as the same time. or does he have the potential to dial a notch higher.
sorry to inject in the middle of a convo.
Who is this bumknee character, and why is he here again tonight ????
And now they’re going into the 12th.
I’ve always said of extra innings that the team that blinks first loses, especially when you start going into deep extras. At this point it is anybody’s game.
And you’re Einstein. And Carl is knocking at your front door right now to play a game of jacks with you.
Pat M–didn’t realize I needed your permission. Oh, that’s right, I don’t. Why are you here? To dazzle everyone?
Just seeing clips of Bryce Harper getting his uniform. 17 years old, wow.
Randy Winn is 3 for 3 for the Cards. Isn’t he the “bum” that couldn’t play anymore?
“Unleach his stuff while maintaining his control…….Sounds like the same conversation the Mariners had some 18 years ago with a guy by the name of Randy Johnson”
Pat M.-
It does indeed. That said – Brackman’s control is now far better than Randy’s was at the same age. And I think you have to give Brackman a world of credit for that. Brackman is going to struggle with his mechanics from time to time but he’s done a great job of nailing down 80% of what he needs in terms of command/ control. Randy didn’t do that until he was 27-28.
CB,
I read your post and i have to admit it really impresed me the way you talk about Brackman. I’m only a fan that played a little ball back in my days, meaning that i’m not an authority on judging talent, baseball skills or anything for that matter. I just read a lot, what i’ve read the past few days about brackman is that he is developing well but that his off speed wasn’t there just yet. That’s why i put Betances higher than Brackman in my prospect list. But if both guys develop to their full potential, Do you really think Brackman can be that good??
Are we going to use Randy Winn’s 1 game sample to suggest he isn’t a bum? Or can we use his yankee stat line (.213 .300 .295 .595) full season stat line (.233 .319 .371 .690 ) or cardinal stat line ( .245 .330 .418 .749 ) to say he is a bum???
Anyone can have a good game in baseball.
Ian Kennedy–7 innings–one hit–no runs–12 k’s. What a game!
Yes Jerkface, and anyone can do poorly with one team and do really well with another. I will trot out my Edgar Renterria example.
GB,
Nothing wrong with a good steak, either. Another one of my favorites.
Love the Military Channel, History Channel, and Discovery Channel. That’s about 75% of my TV viewing outside of ballgames.
“Surviving the Cut” might be something that would interest you, although it is technically a reality show. They profile Special Forces units in all branches.
And I might also add that St. Louis wouldn’t have picked Winn up if he was really a bum.
except jerkface can never had one good night on a blog. Why? The same reason Mike Francesa can never be a jockey. both are impossibilities.
Ok, but Randy Winn had a 3 for 4 game on the Yankees, and was mostly useless. His 3 for 3 doesn’t make him any less of a ‘bum’ or a not good player at this point in this career. And I certainly wouldnt care enough about Randy Winn to rub his inevitable 0fer in your face.
His defense has been real bad in STL as well as his hitting.
And I might also add that St. Louis wouldn’t have picked Winn up if he was really a bum.
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Bums bounce around teams all the time.
# SAS August 26th, 2010 at 10:50 pm
GF,
Now that you are feeling better, you should try to get to both coasts. The East coast in May or later and the West could be earlier. They are very special. Chicago is special too in other ways.
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Yeah, I know. I’ve always wanted to do more traveling. The part where I’ve always come up short is in the cash department.
Certainly not alone in that regard.
“am assuming when you say fully unleash , CB, you meant he can possibly throw harder and is sacrifice velo for control in this case. Do you think he is holding back.”
That’s part of it. Brackman in theory has an upside like Randy Johnson. But right now he’s not that kind of intimidating force. What made RJ so amazingly great eventually was his ability to leverage his height and do so aggressively while still throwing hard.
Brackman’s just not there yet in terms of putting that combination together. Not a big deal in any way as it took RJ until he was in his late 20′s to get there. The point is though it’s still a question if Brackman can do that to the full extent of say a Johnson. Chances are he wont’ just because RJ was an all time great and those don’t grow on trees.
One of the major ways RJ utilized his height was his arm slot. RJ threw from that nasty 3/4 arm slot. For most pitchers throwing that way has many advantages and disadvantages. It makes you very hard to pick up. But at the same time it makes it harder to throw with a nice downwards plane. RJ essentially utilized his height to throw with that arm slot and get the best of both worlds. He got that great 3/4 deception in his delivery and the impact that had particularly on LH hitters while still being able to get great downwards plane on the ball due to his height.
That’s part of why RJ’s slider was so good – probably the best the game has seen since Lefty Carlton in his prime (you can ask Pat M. how good that pitch was…).
Brackman still hasn’t put together the pieces like that. He may not be able to. Again no big deal – he could still wing up as an all star without the whole package. But the whole package is a Randy Johnson like picture with perhaps a notch less velocity.
I just don’t think Brackman is yet fully utilizing all of his tools. If he were no one in A ball or AA would come close to touching him.
Andy Phillips once hit: .143 .217 .190 .408
then: .200 .200 .200 .400 for the Reds and Mets in the same season.
Kelly Stinnett once hit: .228 .282 .304 .586
then: .083 .083 .083 .167 for the mets in the same system.
Then hit .159 .207 .232 .439 for the cardinals the next season!
Has ER been re-incarnated as a body part this time?
Garret Atkins once hit .226 .308 .342 .650 and then was signed the very next offseason by Baltimore and then he hit .214 .276 .286 .562 !
They paid him money to do that!
Giuseppe Franco August 26th, 2010 at 11:00 pm
GB,
Nothing wrong with a good steak, either. Another one of my favorites.
Love the Military Channel, History Channel, and Discovery Channel. That’s about 75% of my TV viewing outside of ballgames.
“Surviving the Cut” might be something that would interest you, although it is technically a reality show. They profile Special Forces units in all branches.
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I love the “Special Forces” school shows. I’m sitting there watching them, and say, “How can anybody be stupid enough to go through that crap for weeks and months”. Then, I remember. I was one of those stupid enough to do it.
“except jerkface can never had one good night on a blog. Why? The same reason Mike Francesa can never be a jockey. both are impossibilities”
I hear you.
Trisha shacking up with BumBrain. New blog power couple?
pat August 26th, 2010 at 11:07 pm
Has ER been re-incarnated as a body part this time?
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It might be, though, he’s chosen the wrong body part to call himself.
Bumknee,
I’ve created a place where you and Matt can go and discuss how much the two of you hate the Yankees.
I think you and Matt will thoroughly enjoy hanging out there together.
Enjoy!!
http://bumkneeandmatttalkbaseb.....rrent.html
GF,
Money is such a bummer. Without it, we could do anything we want. Hope one day you get a chance to see our beautiful country.
# GreenBeret7 August 26th, 2010 at 11:12 pm
I love the “Special Forces” school shows. I’m sitting there watching them, and say, “How can anybody be stupid enough to go through that crap for weeks and months”. Then, I remember. I was one of those stupid enough to do it.
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And you’re a better man than me for doing so. Don’t think I’d “Survive the Cut.”
Interesting managing by Riggleman. Miguel Batista has been doing a really good job in relief. Yet Riggleman pinch hit for him with exYankee Wil Nieves. With 2 outs.
Both pens are entirely spent.
And Nieves got a walk.
Didn’t someone once say that the difference between genius and idiot in managing is whether or not the move works?
“Trisha shacking up with BumBrain. New blog power couple?”
Anyone who calls out your idiocy can put his shoes under my bed. Lots of posters shoes under my bed at this point.
Trisha is easy, but be warned, there is lots of crying involved.
You’ve literally just allied yourself with a moron who hates most of the current yankees. Isn’t that a super fan faux pas?
And this was the reason it wasn’t the best idea to take out Batista. Nats down to their final pitcher. You know when you’re there it isn’t necessarily an extremely comforting feeling. 4-pitch walk to the first batter. Wild pitch and lead runner goes to 2nd.
The truth, though, is that the Cards made a great play in the infield to take a hit away from Adam Kennedy. Had that not been made, Nats would have had the game.
So strange to hear the broadcasters talking about which starting pitcher hits the best, in case they want one as a pinch hitter!
Giuseppe Franco August 26th, 2010 at 11:18 pm
# GreenBeret7 August 26th, 2010 at 11:12 pm
I love the “Special Forces” school shows. I’m sitting there watching them, and say, “How can anybody be stupid enough to go through that crap for weeks and months”. Then, I remember. I was one of those stupid enough to do it.
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And you’re a better man than me for doing so. Don’t think I’d “Survive the Cut.”
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It was actually a great experience. I was young and had nothing else to do, so I decided that I wanted to try something. I think that I quit every night for the first 2 weeks. After that, it was just part of the job. The one thing that it did do was force me to take responsibility for someone besides myself. I neve wanted the job of chosing who stayed back in safety and who got the fuzzy end of the lollipop. I always went on these missions because it was one less person to worry about. These schools taught me one thing. It helps know one to try keeping them from gaining experience that they’ll need just to survive. Really, that’s whay half of these schools are…leadership training.
Did you hear this joke?
“A bum and a jerk stumble onto a blog…”
Can everyone stop sniping at each other please?
“You’ve literally just allied yourself with a moron who hates most of the current yankees. Isn’t that a super fan faux pas?”
Don’t know the guy, don’t know his posts. All I know is that he called you out so I figured he must have something going for him.
swbyankeesTT New post: Postgame notes: Sanchez on DL with arm problem http://bit.ly/cGr56F
pat,
Which Sanchez? Romulo?
Adam Wainwright on deck!
It’s so strange to see.
If i’m not mistaken price from the rays & brackman were going toe to toe as far as being drafted number one before brackman got hurt.
Maybe CB can verify this??
“Can everyone stop sniping at each other please?”
Are you new here?
Adam Wainwright on deck!
It’s so strange to see.
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Probably because this is like the 2nd game of baseball you’ve ever actually watched. Much like how you don’t actually read the blog.
“Are you new here?”
Yes.
I wonder if Sanchez has a “real” injury or a fake “real” injury? Are the NYYs getting him rested and ready for September 1st or did he break something with the delivery?
“Probably because this is like the 2nd game of baseball you’ve ever actually watched. Much like how you don’t actually read the blog”
Actually its because he didn’t pitch in the game and it’s the 13th inning.
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Yes, Romulo.
The White Sox blew out the O’s tonight. Hope they got all those hits out of their systems for the weekend
# GreenBeret7 August 26th, 2010 at 11:27 pm
It was actually a great experience. I was young and had nothing else to do, so I decided that I wanted to try something. I think that I quit every night for the first 2 weeks. After that, it was just part of the job. The one thing that it did do was force me to take responsibility for someone besides myself. I neve wanted the job of chosing who stayed back in safety and who got the fuzzy end of the lollipop. I always went on these missions because it was one less person to worry about. These schools taught me one thing. It helps know one to try keeping them from gaining experience that they’ll need just to survive. Really, that’s whay half of these schools are…leadership training.
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Can’t even begin to imagine what that experience was like. But I salute you for your service.
Sounds like that show is right up your alley. They profiled the Rangers last week, Air Force this week, and I believe it’s Recon Marines next week.
m August 26th, 2010 at 11:30 pm
pat,
Which Sanchez? Romulo?
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I’m not pat, but, I did stay at the Holiday Inn Express last night. (and for you dirty mindeds, NO, pat wasn’t thee. She’s a good girl.)
The answer is yes, Romulo.
Actually its because he didn’t pitch in the game and it’s the 13th inning.
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Like I said, pitchers pinch hitting in extra inning games happens in the national league. It also happens with good hitting pitchers such as D-Willis.
But I understand how difficult it is to find time to watch baseball inbetween drafting your 1000 word posts, buying tissues at the store, and staring deep into your cheerleaders crystal ball.
Okay Nyjer Morgan just got hit. Runner on first, nobody out.
Finish it now Nats!!!
Ryan Zimmerman up (is on my fantasy team) and then Adam Dunn (also on my fantasy team). I definitely put my money where my mouth is.
GB
Would one need a real wrap for a fake real injury?
“Like I said, pitchers pinch hitting in extra inning games happens in the national league. It also happens with good hitting pitchers such as D-Willis.
But I understand how difficult it is to find time to watch baseball inbetween drafting your 1000 word posts, buying tissues at the store, and staring deep into your cheerleaders crystal ball”
That and the fact that I spend my time watching AL games, not NL. I tuned into this one because of the score in the 9th and the fact it was still on.
Next?
GF, it, like I always told my parents. I stayed in because I was too lazy to get a job.
Over the years, I got a free college education and went places that I never could have afforded to go to. I always considered that a pretty fair trade-oof.
1st and 3rd one out. Ian Desmond up. He’s a very good hitter. He does a lot of bunting but I would rather see him just lift one into the outfield. Nyjer Morgan at 3rd. He’s fast as the dickens.
pat August 26th, 2010 at 11:37 pm
GB
Would one need a real wrap for a fake real injury?
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Cetainly. With all of these wily, crafty journalists around, they can spot a fake wrap a mile away.
“If i’m not mistaken price from the rays & brackman were going toe to toe as far as being drafted number one before brackman got hurt.”
Well that’s sort of hard to say because Brackman got injuried fairly early in college.
Overall I doubt that would have been the case. Price was an absolute stud coming out of college. He was one of the best college pitcher to enter the draft in several years. Left handed, plus fastball, strong polish.
Unless Brackman went nuts his junior year Price would have been the pick. Remember, for a team like the Rays if you are going to invest that much money in a prospect you want it to work out and minimize the risk of your financial exposure. Part of managing that risk is knowing that the player will hopefully get to the big leagues relatively quickly.
Price not only had a huge ceiling he had a high floor. A team could always be more confident Price would make it and do so more quickly compared to Brackman. Plus you didn’t have to deal with Boras on Price.
Brackman if healthy would have been a top 3 pick. But Price was just a better all around package.
There is no substitute for left handed pitching. We often compare Brackman to Randy Johnson – I did it above. But it’s a tough comparison for Brackman because he’s not LH and that makes it much less likely he’ll every approach RJ’s dominance. Left handed pitchers can dominate the game in very particular ways.
NATS WIN THE GAME!!!!! WOO HOO!!!!!!
Ian Desmond probably gets the Elvis Wig.
Considering the talent that’s on the Cardinals, they are really fighting to stay above water.
Reading some of this stuff on Brackman and thinking about it, I think it would be a good move to have him spend a year in the bullpen with the big league club before transitioning to the rotation (unless his future lies in the bullpen which is probably not completely out of the question even with his great year so far).
It would almost naturally force him to dial it up a bit as SP stuff usually play up in the bullpen. He would be able to take that control he has refined and dial up his stuff in 1 inning stints hopefully at the same time.
Then like Hughes has done with his fastball, try to transition that to doing that as a starter.
I did not like the decision to send Hughes to the bullpen last year at the time, but after watching his stuff, his composure, confidence, and the way he attacks hitters I think it could be a beneficial route to take with some of the other pitchers in the system. Brackman IMO would be a very good candidate for that.
GB I agree. Don’t totally understand it. They just lost series to the Cubs, the Brewers, and the Pirates.
Too bad Brackman will likely have an innings limit next year.
Trisha, another week like they just had and they won’t catch Cincinnati. They have big bats, though trading Ludwick was puzzling, and one of the best front 3 rotations around, certainly better than Cincinnati’s.
If they leave him in the minors all of next year and then pitch him in sept, they could probably get him up to 170-180 and then pitch him in the major league BP / spot start him in 2012.
“Reading some of this stuff on Brackman and thinking about it, I think it would be a good move to have him spend a year in the bullpen with the big league club before transitioning to the rotation”
Absolutely. Brackman is the last guy I would think of just giving a rotation spot to as a rookie.
He definitely should start in the pen for at least a year and then transition to the rotation. It’s too risky that his mechanics go out of whack while also needing to adjust to the bigs. Too much risk involved and it could wind up hurting his ultimate development.
Overall I think the yankees will take nearly all of the prospects they eventually see as filling rotation spots and first put them into the pen as a transition.
For that to work however means that the kids need to have ideally thrown around 160-170 innings in a season in the minors before being called up to even be in the bull pen. Otherwise they’ll be stuck in innings limit limbo when they get to the rotation.
GB, you’re right, their top three are sick. Cincy has been kind of crazy but I think they are the top hitting team in the NL. If they arent on top, they are definitely right up there. Their rotation has been kind of flukey. Arroyo is their leading pitcher in wins. Yet he has been erratic at times. Then Mike Leake was considered to be their up and comer and he went through a strange spell. Travis Wood is their minor leaguer who took a no hitter into the 9th I believe – or at least he went into the 8th – and then he was sent down. And now he is back up. So the rotation is a work in progress! It has to be the hitting that puts them over the top.
“For that to work however means that the kids need to have ideally thrown around 160-170 innings in a season in the minors before being called up to even be in the bull pen. Otherwise they’ll be stuck in innings limit limbo when they get to the rotation”
CB, NYYs could probably do this better than most potential playoff team, because of a top three of Sabathia, Hughes and Pettitte/Lee along with Burnett who will be coming to the end of his contract by then.
Cincy does lead the NL in runs and in AVG. The Cards are 2nd in AVG but they are 8th in runs.
Cincy does lead the NL in runs and in AVG. The Cards are 2nd in AVG but they are 8th in runs.
trisha – true pinstriped blue August 27th, 2010 at 12:02 am
GB, you’re right, their top three are sick. Cincy has been kind of crazy but I think they are the top hitting team in the NL. If they arent on top, they are definitely right up there. Their rotation has been kind of flukey. Arroyo is their leading pitcher in wins. Yet he has been erratic at times. Then Mike Leake was considered to be their up and comer and he went through a strange spell. Travis Wood is their minor leaguer who took a no hitter into the 9th I believe – or at least he went into the 8th – and then he was sent down. And now he is back up. So the rotation is a work in progress! It has to be the hitting that puts them over the top.
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I remember back in 2005 and 2006 when Homer Bailey was IT. So much better than Hughes (Homer Bailey-lite). He still may be good, but, he’s been a huge disappointment to Cinncy. They’d had to patch up a rotation for years. Losing Harang has hurt, too. It bothers me to think of what Baker might do to those young pitchers.
With st. Louis, if LaRussa goes, they are in trouble unless they hire Duncan to replace him. Duncan will follow LaRussa and Pujols may not stick around.
I think i read that after the 2011 season if brackman is to be sent down(stay in the minors) he would have to clear irrevocable waivers wich means if a team claims him they own him,the yankees can’t pull him back.
http://riveraveblues.com/2007/.....tract-965/
“NYYs could probably do this better than most potential playoff team, because of a top three of Sabathia, Hughes and Pettitte/Lee along with Burnett who will be coming to the end of his contract by then.”
I think this is part of why they’ll go after Cliff Lee. For all practical purposes Brackman may not be ready to join the rotation for another three two seasons at the earliest. Next year in AAA. Year after in the pen. Year after that in the rotation.
Betances could also be on that kind of schedule. AA/AAA next season. AAA season after with possible call up to the pen. Full season in the pen and then the rotation.
And that’s assuming things work out according to plan which they never do.
I am so glad that Cincy is doing so well. My second favorite team. There are the Yanks then Cincy way down in 2nd place.
Good night all
“I think i read that after the 2011 season if brackman is to be sent down(stay in the minors) he would have to clear irrevocable waivers”
It’s after 2012 I believe. The yankees never burned an option on Brackman initially because they put him immediately on the DL. That saved them an option year. I believe that only became known later on after RAB wrote that initial article.
I believe Brackman will need to be on the 25 man by the start of 2013. He’ll be out of options that spring.
That’s why it’s been very important for him to have such a good season this year. He’ll be able to build up positive innings and refine his game now before that option situation becomes a major issue as long as he stays healthy.
St. Louis always seems just a little bit off. Not quite sure what it is. With the talent they have you would think they would be running away with the division. Maybe it’s the reputation of the Cards fans loving them no matter what and they don’t deal with the expectations that teams like the Yanks do.
“I am so glad that Cincy is doing so well. My second favorite team. There are the Yanks then Cincy way down in 2nd place.
Good night all”
I like the notion of second favorite teams, even though they are way down in second.
NYYs have “deep depth”. That’s something you haven’t seen in this organization since the start of the amateur draft in 1965. Depth to fill needs of their own and trade depth. That has to scare teams when you combine that with cash flow depth.
Night all!
Very nice ending, what with the Nats pulling it off.
Best of the best – Navy Seals!
Wow looks like Jerkface really put on his trolling hat tonight…
Quoting RBI’s trying to make a point? Really, tell me more
Yes Trish – the fact the Cards fans love them so much is the reason the Cards don’t win more games.
GB7: ‘…NYYs could probably do this better than most potential playoff team, because of a top three of Sabathia, Hughes and Pettitte/Lee along with Burnett who will be coming to the end of his contract by then.’
The only time in my life I wish for time to go quickly is ‘with Burnett who will be coming to the end of his contract.’
There was some good conversation going on here last night and then a certain party showed up spouting his/her usual and I couldn’t take it and decided to leave. I wish people would just not respond to his/her nonsense – it may not go away entirely, but it would cut the nonsense in half.
Trisha, you may want to do yourself a favor and go back and read some of the stuff this person writes before you say he’s okay in your book simply because he shares a dislike of another poster.
As a result, I missed some other good conversation by the stalwarts who were able to wade through the muck. CB, et al, good stuff about Brackman.
Good morning Doreen.
With the rosters expanding on Wednesday, 9/1 is Tuesday the last day of GTLU?
Fran -
Good morning.
Yes, indeed. I will make an “announcement” later on.
OK Doreen. I’ll wait for the official announcement
Thanks for hosting all season.
Fran -
You’re welcome. It’s mostly been fun. Sometimes things got crazy here and I would lose track of time, but I’m glad I did it.
Good morning ladies.
Doreen, even though a certain poster is a real pain, it was kinda funny seeing jerkface banter with the poster in question.
bumknee is a Sox troll and a misogynist, he hates women.
If there is one think he dislikes more then the Yankees then that would be female Yankee fans.
He portrays himself as a concerned Yankee fan.
Jerkface vs troll makes for good sport
RhapsodyInBlue
I asked him how he could choose what injury to represent with all the injuries the RS had this year.
good morning all…I am glad I didn’t skim thru the late posts from the sounds of it.
Doreen, I will join Fran in thanking you for hosting GTLU
Good morning
I don’t know, I think there are better sports than troll jousting.
Like maybe using them for target practice
I’m starting to sound like GB.
The beauty of registration is that he retains his screen name, the stuff that was going on with multiple names prior to registration was crazy.
Even if these nuts have access to more then one PC/IP Address giving more them then one name, they are more or less isolated, at least we now have an idea who they what they are up to.
I’m wondering if Igawa was able to pick up any pitching tips from those Japanese Little Leaguers….?
Maybe I was just too tired to appreciate the sport of it. All I know is that he give me agita.
looks like there were some exciting games last night. I am happy to see Ian Kennedy do well. NL west is a much better fit for him, he was never going to make it in the AL east
I understand Doreen.
kate
That sounds like the mother in you.
Not that it’s a bad thing.
ha ha too true MY…I get attached to a lot of our former players, and wish them well, except when they play against the Yankees
New Post- Today?s main event: Andy Pettitte?s bullpen