Game 128: Yankees at White Sox
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Gameday Thread on Aug 27, 2010 
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YANKEES (78-49)
Brett Gardner LF
Derek Jeter SS
Mark Teixeira 1B
Robinson Cano 2B
Nick Swisher RF
Jorge Posada DH
Curtis Granderson CF
Francisco Cervelli C
Ramiro Pena 3B
RHP A.J. Burnett (9-11, 4.80)
Burnett vs. White Sox
WHITE SOX (69-58)
Juan Pierre LF
Omar Vizquez 3B
Alex Rios CF
Paul Konerko 1B
Carlos Quentin RF
A.J. Pierzynski C
Alexei Ramirez SS
Mark Teahen DH
Gordon Beckham 2B
RHP Freddy Garcia (10-5, 5.08)
Garcia vs. Yankees
TIME/TV: 8:10 p.m. / YES Network
UMPIRES: HP Alfonso Marquez, 1B Tim Timmons, 2B Tim Tschida, 3B Bob Davidson
WEATHER: Absolutely gorgeous day here in Chicago. I can’t imagine it gets much nicer than this in late August. Upper 70s. No clouds. Just a really nice day.
CLOSE ON THE ROAD: Of the Yankees’ 63 road games, 36 have been decided by three runs or less. That includes 10 of the past 12 and 13 of the past 18. Eight of the past 12 road games have been decided by one run, with the Yankees going 3-5 in those games.
ONE AWAY: With his next appearance, closer Mariano Rivera will pass David Weathers for sole possession of 17th place on baseball’s all-time games pitched list.
TOUGH MATCHUP: As a team, the Yankees have a collective .181 career batting average against Freddy Garcia. Of the five guys with at least 10 at-bats against him, Derek Jeter’s .265 average is the highest. Mark Teixeira is hitless in 13 at-bats against Garcia, and Granderson has a .182 average with 12 strikeouts in 33 at-bats.
UPDATE, 8:12 p.m.: Brett Gardner is fast, and because of that, he’s standing at third base right now. Freddy Garcia tried to rush a throw, threw the ball a way and Gardner took two extra bases on the error.
UPDATE, 8:13 p.m.: Jeter grounds to short and it’s a 1-0 Yankees lead.
UPDATE, 8:22 p.m.: Before he’s recorded an out, A.J. Burnett has allowed two hits and let the White Sox tie the game at 1.
UPDATE, 8:36 p.m.: It’s rarely good when less than 30 minutes into the game, the Yankees bullpen is already going into action. Burnett has already allowed four runs and he just now got the third out of the first inning. The White Sox batted around. It’s 4-1 and Burnett might not last long.
UPDATE, 9:01 p.m.: I’m going to go ahead and say that any time Ramiro Pena steals a bag directly in front of him, there’s a good chance Brett Gardner is going to steal a bag too. Pena stole his way into scoring position, then scored on Gardner’s single. Now Gardner has stolen his way into scoring position, and the yankees have three outs to get him home as well. It’s 4-2 in the third.
UPDATE, 9:08 p.m.: Strikeout. Pop out. Fly out. Gardner left stranded. Still 4-2.
UPDATE, 9:36 p.m.: Mitre is in with the White Sox leading 7-2 in the fourth. Just an ugly outing for Burnett. At one point he retired five in a row. Those were half of his outs in the entire game.
UPDATE, 9:42 p.m.: An error and a wild pitch brought in two more runs here in the fourth. It’s been an ugly game for the Yankees. It’s 9-2.
Go AJ! Start the climb back to .500!
David Weathers? Really? I remember him on the Yankees, but I didn’t realize he pitched in so many games in his career.
Let’s go Yankees!
David Price is such an Ace … just like Ubaldo Jimenez and Tim Lincecum.
Lol.
It’d be a sad night if the R*d S*x gain a game on both the Rays and us.
It’ll be a good night as long as I don’t hear Hawk and his ” put it on the board yeah ” or the ” He gone ” stuff…..Yanks take 2 of 3, Boston takes 2 of 3 in Tampa & it’ll be a nice weekend
I wanna see how Guillen manages Manny being Manny… although Manny is closer to being a normal person now than before.
Balking Bob Davidson & the rest of these umpires are not my favorites. Let’s get it started early and often against Garcia.
“I like Cervelli and I think he could be better with more experience and less exposure”
LGY-
i think the blog is overreacting in the other direction with cervelli now.
i think cervelli is fine as a back up catcher if he catches once every 5 games or so.
he’s just getting exposed now because he’s playing too much because of posada’s nagging injuries.
cervelli will probably have a nice 10 year plus career as a back up with a variety of teams and do quite well for himself for a young man.
he just wasn’t going to be the yankee starting catcher. and for the record, i wasn’t the only one to see his limitations. cb, sj44, and a lot of others saw them too.
hopefully good AJ will show up tonight…and the good Yankee hitters
Back in Black and Start Me Up were the two songs before first pitch
You know at one point the hawk was a Yankee announcer in the late 80s….for example if you watched the Yankees at that time u would here Mel hall hits one deep and u can put it on the board
We’ve been screwed numerous times this year by Alfonso Marquez and Tim “Cheata” Tschida.
?????? How are they arguing pitches after only 1 pitch in the game ???????????????????????
wow drama after the first pitch…isn’t it best of the catcher to keep his mouth shut about balls and strikes. Won’t the ump be tougher on you if you are complaining
That looked like a bad throw before the ball even left his fingers.
Dumb play by Garcia, gotta know whose running. An early run would be really great.
Cerevelli is back up catcher…. No reason to spend anytime discussing him… He is what he is
woo hoo!!
No excuses for not getting this run in.
Fireworks on the first batter. I said this crew of umps are weak.
Ken
thats a nice little nugget of info
at least Jeter got the run in, how awful he has been swinging the bat lately
Nice situational hitting by Jeter. Get the ball in play on the ground, and a run scores. Beautiful.
They argued the first pitch of the game, so that they’ll be rewarded the rest of this game/series.
Ozzie is quite smart, indeed.
You can always count on that Jeter groundout. Nice job, Captain. And I mean it.
C’mon AJ!
i pray that the good AJ shows up today
From Sporst Illustrated “For geriatric reasons Vizquel demands that he gets seated closest to the aircraft lavatory on all flights.”
Bad A.J. Burnett, I presume?
Yes I remember hawk announcing Yankee games during the dark times of the late 80s…he said put in on the board then… The “yes” was added later
Good job kid. He’s a Yankees fan.
AJ already trying to give away the lead.
oppsie lol…lucky for the Yanks, that was a triple easy
See all after the post game….It’s Friday night and I can fully expect lunacy here tonight at The LoHud
Please don’t let that moron off the hook, AJ.
look at that AJ gives up a double and now he can’t find the strike zone…..get ready for a long night
Gotta throw some strikes there AJ.
Tied game just like that.
Um, thx, AJ.
Tied up. The story of AJ, get a lead, give it right back.
Wow- 5 pitches and the leads been given up?
Jeez Vizquel plays better ball than half the kids that are half his age. Friggin amazing.
Lord, Burnett sucks
Unreal!
Wow- 8 pitches and the leads been given up?
Over under aj innings pitched tonight….. 4 2/3..
Wow…
aj is not good in the first inning, but why do we always give runs right back?
Why Ruby Tuesday and not ER or California?
Just curious.
So what, we are still in first place.
It’s not like the Rays will win tonight or the R*d S*x will ever, ever catch us.
Why worry?
Viz= freak of nature
this is why the yankees just score all their runs in 1 inning, and in high numbers.
Yankee starting pitching is very dubious after CC. Right now, Boston and TB both have better starting pitching.
I’ll take the under on that
I can’t believe Vizquel is still playing that is ridiculous I grew up watching him play
foreboding start w/ AJ
Man-up AJ. Anybody that can say Cervelli is what he is does not know what is to be a Yankee. He just isn’t good enough.
Where was that pitch????
A lot of times when you tell a pitcher to trust his stuff, the stuff actually sucks. AJ’s doesn’t.
aj will go 7, but the first inning is never good. just stop them now.
Andy can’t get back fast enough.
is it me? or does Burnett seem to start all his games like this? Cervelli dropping balls on stolen base attempts. Runs in the first inning….
cmon dp
This looks to be a short night for Burnett
sigh this is pitful/borderline unwatchable…. is it possible for someone to be as consistantly bad as AJ as been
Cervelli brings nothing to the table at all. Not good behind the plate, can’t hit a lick. But don’t worry….he’s got “spunk.”
cerv just saved a run
Who will homer here?
For the first time, I’m starting to get concerned about the rotation. AJ can’t be consistent. Javy has a dead arm. Andy might be done for the season. Hughes has innings limits. We might be in some trouble here.
Do they have anybody warming up yet? Seriously.
I would handle the rotation like this right now. CC’s safe. Hughes is probably still safe. But for Burnett and the rest? You crap the bed in a start, welcome to the bullpen. Vazquez already got sent there. But if Burnett doesn’t pull it together quickly? To the ‘pen for you, welcome back Vazquez. Keep doing that until somebody gets it together.
But, maybe that’s why I’m not a major league manager.
I said u can’t complain about cervalli because he is really not that good….hence the phrase ” he is what he is” …. A back up catcher.. I just get annoyed that aj needs a ” personal catcher” and still stinks it up
AJ again. Another gem.
The problem is, if you take AJ out of the rotation, who takes his place? They already have two Triple A guys in the rotation as it is. And yes they have done really well…..so far.
Burnett also throwing a ton of pitches. This doesn’t bode well.
Someone tell A.J. that the bullpen sessions are over, please.
Can they stick him with some B12 before the next inning?
Un freaking believable. I’d rather see Mosley start at this point. AJ is just terrible.
I dunno I kinda feel Quentin deserved that hit
Why the hell is Jeter shading towards second when it’s a right hander at the plate? Hit due to bad positioning. If he is where he should be, that is a DP.
That ball needs to be fielded
Right past Captain Intangibles.
Time for Mitre to get up
damn!! this guy is so frustrating
AJ is really having a bad year. Unbelieveable, I’ve really run out of things to say.
If you look up the word frustration in the dictionary, you would see AJ’s picture.
There’s an AJ i definitely dislike more
Again. U can’t start Jeter at SS next yr. He can’t play the position
Please- at least record the 2nd out!
This is a friggin joke. Tremendous $82M pitcher. What a mistake.
Hey at least he throws pies… Because that is what is really important
That ball looked like it went where Jeter usually plays.
But, AJ, WTF???????
Game over.
having a root canal done is more enjoyable than watching burnett pitch
It’s hard to believe that AJ is getting knocked around like this. He’s throwing 94-96 but the Sox batters are all over his fastball. He’s really lost his confidence and not pitching with conviction at all.
Another gutless AJ performance so far
Get AJ out of there. He’s got nothing again.
You are carrying 13 pitchers. No reason to keep him out there to put the team out of the game.
Yet another garbage outing for AJ.
At this point, if you are going to keep him in the rotation, you can’t give him a long leash.
# JM August 27th, 2010 at 8:30 pm
The problem is, if you take AJ out of the rotation, who takes his place? They already have two Triple A guys in the rotation as it is. And yes they have done really well…..so far.
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I understand that, but…could you do worse than how he’s been pitching? 6.08 ERA in August…before this game.
If nobody is warming up, Girardi needs his head examined.
27 pitches in the first?? 4-1?
OK yall have a goodnight.
AJ sucks.
I guess that’s not a strike. This is frustrating. Im raging angry right now, like a steroid user.
oh well, 3 runs down already.
AJ Brunette……pitches like a girl…
gotta love the fact that every game is over before it even starts.
I guess Vazquez could be back in the rotation almost no matter what Nova does.
This is an absolute joke of a performance in a pennant race. AJ is pitching the Yankees out of EVERY game he’s pitching.
Horrible pitch selection, he would of swung over the curve. A.J with another horrible start so far.
Get him out of there!!!!! These games are important!
Unless Andy comes back and comes back soon they are going to have a hard time making the playoffs
We are in serious trouble right now.
Benny Blanco August 27th, 2010 at 8:32 pm
AJ is really having a bad year. Unbelieveable, I’ve really run out of things to say.
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Hey don’t worry we have him 3 more years after this
Pena saves the fifth run.
Not only did this team give him a 1-run lead to start with, but he has NOTHING. NOTHING.
AJ has nothing. The offense is going to have to score a lot of runs tonight. I hope they have it in them!
who’s in the bullpen? Gaudin? So if Javy gets benched and sent to the bullpen for sucking twice this season…why hasn’t that happened to AJ yet?????
Watch Girardi leave AJ in until we can’t overcome the Sox’s lead…again.
Im stuck watching AJ stink up the mound as usual and listening to the White Sox jackass announcers. Great evening for a Yankee fan…
Must be frustrating as a player when AJ pitches. The Yanks get a lead in the first off a guy they notoriously have trouble with, and then AJ pitches so poorly he puts them in a deep, deep hole. Argh.
This Tin Man is an absolute JOKE!
It should really come as no surprise though. Except for CC every free agent pitcher who comes here in the last 8 years mails it in and steals money from the Yanks
I guess if you can hit 95 mph, you don’t have to get benched…which is ridiculous. It should be about control.
Can CC start every game?
A.J’s stuff is so good, but he is a head case, to think we have 3 more years left with this nut job!!
Anyone want to argue that Boston and TB don’t have better starting pitching? And by quite a lot?
Get. Him. Out. Now.
early or not, i think it is safe to say AJ is a real disappointment.
I wrote that post too late. Hrs already put them out of the game.
Perhaps Cash needs to re-think a Kuroda waiver claim.
At this point, AJ Burnett is no longer a capable ML starting pitcher.
You either have to replace him with somebody or have bullpen action going from the first pitch of the game and pull him before he implodes.
Disgraceful.
Empty the pen ton. Coming off an off day. CC tom. Play to win
burnett is literally a joke. how can this guy get a paycheck? he does no anicllary tasks well. he cannot hold a runner, he cannot field, he walks to many batters, he leads the league in wild pitches.
aj is a farce…..he is a disgrace and any fan that can support this clown is a joke………
His stuff isn’t that good. It’s straight as a rope and up in the zone.
can we do a javy on this bum?
they are just all over his fastball, it sure seems like he is tipping his pitches because they aren’t close to the breaking ball.
I always thought that AJ’s contract was an albatross, mainly because of the lengh of the contract. Now i think that after just one year is already a bad contract, wow!!
only pitches well in contract years
That strikeout was a mistake… he meant to leave the ball over the plate
AJ should skip a start or two…..They can’t afford to have these kinds of games in the midst of a pennant race.
Well, at least we have eight innings to try to catch up.
oh, boy. Yeah. Only 30-plus pitches and 4 runs later, the inning is ovah.
Boston has MUCH better SP. Lester n clay r top notch. Lackey dice k n Beckett are solid. We have one top notch SP. Hughes is solid. That’s it
A.J. Burnett is a joke ! The guy doesn’t know how to pitch. Like I said he is what he is and that’s a .500 pitcher who is overpaid.
Come on offense! Maybe a miracle happens and A.J settles down.
Just a disgraceful job by AJ. He’s got to man up and at least get them 4 innings of 4 run ball now. The offence can score, but can they keep up with AJ?
Thank goodness CC is pitching tomorrow. We have a chance of NOT getting swept.
I know the game isn’t over yet, but already down 4-1 and no signs of getting out of the inning. And you KNOW that since AJ got out of this with no more damage, Joe will send him out again in the 2nd. Who knows how long it will take then until Joe finally pulls him?
Add in the fact that nobody in this line up hits Garcia well, and we’re in for a LONG night. Doesn’t matter that Garcia has been struggling. The Yankees often make struggling pitchers look like Cy Young candidates.
Trade him in the offseason, even if you have to eat some of that onerous contract. After his ability to kill both the Yanks and Red Sox as a Blue Jay – this absolutely sucks largely.
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Put Burnett in the far end of the bullpen. As far back as it gets. Not worthy of a No. 5 starting pitcher.
Please tell me that no matter what the Yanks do in the top of 2nd that AJ will NOT be going back out there
Well, what’s working in our favor is that Garcia is their worst pitcher. The game is not over.
AJ is one of the worst signings (for the money) in Yankee free agent history. Mental case on the mound. Has no guts. Gets rattled easily and loses his composure to often. I could go on. This team is in the thick of a pennant race with thirty something games left and AJ is killing this team right now. He had a 4 plus ERA last year which was acceptable, but he is on the verge of just getting skipped. Yanks can’t afford to ship out this guy anymore. Just terrible!
He’s competing with Javy for worst pitcher. Tough contest
Exactly, Ace.
playoff rotation: CC, Hughes,Andy,Nova
AJ to the pen…in SWB.
AJ isn’t/wasn’t a bad signing. Just for Game 2 of the WS alone it was worth it.
Not even a discussion
“Perhaps Cash needs to re-think a Kuroda waiver claim.”
We pick last. He’d never make it all the way to us.
Ace
I wouldn’t call Lackey, Beckett, and Dice-k solid. Ask any Red Sox fan and they would not agree with your post. Also check out the stats all three of those pitchers you mentioned are mediocre at best.
They have two solid starters in Lester and Clay.
the Yanks don’t hit Garcia well and they have been batting iffy lately. Lucky to get that run in the 1st, it was basically a gift
Second pitch. After giving up 4 runs. Bat AB
Jeez Swish at least give AJ some time to rest
Need Toronto to bury Boston. Then again, it doesn’t seem like this team has the pitching to go deep into October.
GUTLESS overpaid NO heart LOSER, .500 career pitcher, Burnett
This is an absolute joke. The Ozzie argued after the first pitch of the game. And now AJ cant buy a single call. Add on to that that he has nothing, and these losers like Quentin fought off his pitches repeatedly, I think it’s better if I stay away tonight and not bring any more insanity to the blog.
CR9 is NOT ON MEDS TONIGHT
AJ is an embarrassment to the Pinstripes.
Ugly inning
This guy is a stone in the Yankees’ collective shoe.
Right now this team is CC and all bets are off.
Who would you line up no.2?
This was supposed to be the easy Month.
I sure am a lil worried to see this team play in the hard month coming up.
Yeah Swish way to go seeing 2 pitches
“AJ isn’t/wasn’t a bad signing. Just for Game 2 of the WS alone it was worth it.”
Only if you remove him from the rotation. If you pitch him every fifth day for the next 3+ years, it sucks.
If I told u on match 1 that on sep 1 our 3 best starters would be cc Hughes n nova who would have thought I was nuts?
# Doreen August 27th, 2010 at 8:32 pm
That ball looked like it went where Jeter usually plays.
But, AJ, WTF???????
Game over.
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Is that really you,Doreen?
Next year id either put A.J in the bullpen or trade him to and NL team and eat as much of his contract as I can. Eat 7-8 mil of the contract and get rid of him.
I think at this point I like Javy (dare I say) more than AJ….*gasp*
I don’t understand why Burnett has not gotten the same treatment as Vasquez has twice already…he’s been as inconsistent if not worse than Javy. He’s got a 5.87 ERA since May 9th and that’s not counting this game.
If you want to try and win the game, AJ can’t be put out there for the second inning.
If you want to save the pen, he goes back out there to get killed again.
If you are going to carry 13 pitchers and have 8 innings left in the game, no reason not to try and win the game.
Go to Mitre, cross your fingers, and hope he can get outs.
If Andy can’t come back, the Yanks are in deep trouble.
this blog is hysterical when the Yankees are behind. It’s almost like all of you are lined up at the GWB ready to jump at the first sign of trouble.
This game is far from over, period. Garcia pitches to a 5 ERA throwing junk up there, do you really expect him to shut them down tonight?
@Jeremy. Check lackeys record. Check dice K the past 45 days. Beckett as a 5? Um yea I think EVERY team takes that.
I’m tired of Yank broadcasters saying AJ ‘has the stuff but just needs to control it.’
He’s 33 years old? He doesn’t have ‘the stuff.’
Jeremy — you’re right. Only Clay and Lester are solid, and even Lester has had some bumps here and there.
Sure burnett sucks, but the lineup shouldn’t mail it in. Garcia is awful and the league is hitting almost .300 off him. No reason the yanks offense can’t pound this guy if they focus. If u win a slugfest its still a win.
Joe and Cervelli conversation:
Joe: You think AJ has anything tonight
Cervelli: Nope
Joe: Great its going to be a long night
Cervelli: Yup
They need to claim Lilly off waivers. Anything would improve the rotation at this point.
Ace August 27th, 2010 at 8:40 pm
AJ isn’t/wasn’t a bad signing. Just for Game 2 of the WS alone it was worth it.
Not even a discussion
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Can we discuss it when we are still paying him in 2011, 2012 and 2013… And he is still pitching like this???
” Eat 7-8 mil of the contract and get rid of him.”
No team is paying this AJ the other 8-9m per year.
2010 A.J. Burnett = 2005 Kevin Brown
At this point they should seriously look into DLing AJ.
At the least give him a CAT scan and see if anything is in there.
U can empty pen tod. Got CC tom. Off day yest.
Mitre can’t be any worse than AJ was in the first inning.
If Andy gets healthy go with a three man rotation in the playoffs. The three being CC, Andy and Hughes
# Laura – I Bleed Blue August 27th, 2010 at 8:39 pm
Well, what’s working in our favor is that Garcia is their worst pitcher. The game is not over.
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Did you forget the fact that nobody on this Yankee team hits him well? And the only reason they have a run right now is due to Gardner’s speed? They haven’t even gotten anything out of the infield against him, and most of the contact has been pretty weak.
I’d let him go out for the next inning, but he’d be on a VERY short leash. The first sign of trouble, I’d get him out of there.
We can complain about the batters tonight, but I think AJ just contributes to a mental letdown. The hitters know the game is over after one inning.
September’s hope may be that other teams can’t hit the pitchers we bring up that they’ve never seen. Wouldn’t that be nice for a change?
game isnt over but i agree with the mental letdown…
And how is it that Tampa has these dopes like Joyce and Jaso who take our pitchers deep, yet John Lester is mowing them down with his eyes closed???
@phelps. No. We can’t. Titles r what it is about. That Game 2 performance makes this contract worth it.
Thats not fair to Kevin Brown- he was 10-6 in 2004.
“Did you forget the fact that nobody on this Yankee team hits him well? And the only reason they have a run right now is due to Gardner’s speed? They haven’t even gotten anything out of the infield against him, and most of the contact has been pretty weak.”
I was trying to be positive. Thanks for raining all over my parade.
I agree sj… But can we have a night when we are not discussing the pros and cons of mitre in the second Inning??
“At the least give him a CAT scan and see if anything is in there.”
Where?
SJ is right, bring in Miltre…..There’s nothing to gain by running Burnett back out there, he’s a mess right now….Just 2 starts ago he was lights out at Kauffman Stadium…..It’s just a matter of time before he turns it around, but that time is not tonight…..
Let him pitch until his arm falls off.
Tough to mount comebacks with 3 auto outs in lineup.
LOL
Take,
There is no way AJ doesn’t pitch in the playoffs unless he is DLed.
At this point I trust Moseley over him.
I’m with the ‘the Yanks can still win this game’ camp, but I can’t get on anyone who’s frustrated with AJ right now.
Maybe he’ll… settle down. Or step up. Or whatever not pitching like an ass clown is called.
Sure the offense cn come back…they can great!! But these starting pitchers can’t blow up in The first two innings!!
Yankees should be able to get 4 runs off Garcia, Garcia sucks. He is horrible.
This is y mitre is here btw. Play to win joe
If they can keep it at 4-1, they still have a great chance to come back. Put Mitre in. AJ has nothing.
Purenyyankee August 27th, 2010 at 8:46 pm
Let him pitch until his arm falls off.
1-47 by the end.
rich
where the brain is supposed to be
I don’t understand why jorge can’t even catch after an off day. I’m tired of him clogging up the lineup with his having to DH all the time. It hurts the team.
Wow Cervelli you are such a bad hitter.
I think I would have Cervelli take every pitch every time he’s up.
Garcia has given up 7 runs in 12 innings in his two starts against the Yankees in 2009-2010, not exactly evidence that the Yankees have problems with him.
Can anyone answer this question: Who would you rather have as your catcher: Francisco Cervelli, or one of those kids from the Japanese Little League team?
Ace
Sorry bit I watch Dice-k, Lackey and Beckett pitch and they are far from solid. And stats over the short term mean very little to me. Javy looked good for a little while and look at him now.
If the Sox rotation was as solid as you say it is the numbers sure don’t reflect it.
AT least we cleared the pitchers spot in the lineup.
Cervelli should never be allowed to swing 3-1 ever. It’s not like he hits anything other than singles anyways. Take the walk.
Good thing? It’s not posadas fault!
He also brings the team down.
They are not hitting because he sucks again.
The problem MG is, AJ Burnett has no ability to keep his team in games.
Also, Garcia may throw slop but, he has great numbers against the guys in the Yankees lineup tonight. Check the numbers.
Bottom line is, it’s still a game of pitching.
If Dustin Moseley is the second or third best starting pitcher on the team, which he is right now, that ain’t good.
Especially when you have two .100 hitters at the bottom of your lineup.
Makes comebacks very difficult.
“where the brain is supposed to be”
Faiaz
You’re assuming that they would find one?
Remind me why Cervelli is on this team?
3-1 count, down 2 runs, and they hit and run because guess what, Garcia is throwing it RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE with a 3-run lead.
And what can Cervelli muster in this predictable and obvious situation? A lazy fly ball to center field.
If you are going to play the personal catcher nonsense, you cannot have one as useless as Cervelli starting in a major league game.
Who was it waxing poetic about Cervelli?
Yankees can 7 runs off Garcia… Is that enough with aj pitching??
Not a very auspicious start for AJ. The only ones who cheer for him lately are the opposition. Someone with the pitching ability he has shouldn’t be this bad. If he was a back of the rotation starter you could put up with this, but not for what he is being paid.
He is becoming a joke as a starter, you also wouldn’t want him in the BP, as you need someone to get outs, not give up runs like candy during Halloween.
Sorry about raining on your Parade, Laura. I’d really like to think that the Yankees have what it takes to make a comeback, but after seeing at least 3 batters get ahead in the count (I think they were all 3-1) and then hit weak outs, I’m not too optimistic. But, hey, at least Cervelli finally got a ball out of the infield. That’s a plus, I guess.
The Yankees can come back if they hold them at 4.
Pat M. August 27th, 2010 at 8:46 pm
SJ is right, bring in Miltre…..There’s nothing to gain by running Burnett back out there, he’s a mess right now….Just 2 starts ago he was lights out at Kauffman Stadium…..It’s just a matter of time before he turns it around, but that time is not tonight…..
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Pat M, you have a good eye, what do you think AJ’s problem is out there-he’s throwing hard but to me doesn’ t have confidence in his fastball at all.
Mark,
We haven’t cleared the pitcher’s spot in the lineup, because there are 2 pitchers in the lineup tonight thanks to the brilliant management that has decided Francisco Cervelli is a major league catcher when there are many options down in AAA that are better than him.
@Jeremy. What if yanks lost their leadoff hitter 2 hitter n 3 hitter?? Spare us. Respect the competition bud.
Short leash, please.
AJ is horrible. Yankees give him a lead and he can’t give it up fast enough. 16.5 million for I don’t know what, a head case or just a .500 pitcher.
Doesn’t matter who catches him.
Doesn’t matter if Eiland is here or not.
After the game the same story from AJ.
Can someone be DL’d for being a mental case?
One major fail of this yr? Assuming cervelli could catch fulltime.
“Short leash, please.”
Choke collar.
Can someone be DL’d for being a mental case?
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Definitely.
“16.5 mill” i threw up a lil in my mouth
Maybe AJ is injured and he’s keeping it on the down low. That seems to be the modus operandi these days.
aj will settle down. its always the first inning.
AJ can’t throw curves for strikes. almost every game hitters gears up for his FBs, with little control of that in the zone… implosion! i really don’t think this rocket science. when you have one pitch and he can’t locate it. boom!
If the Yankees can eat 9-10 million of A.J’s contract would any NL team take him?
Is Kay kidding me? Deep right? What is he doing?
uh-oh 66% complete of an easy inning
everytime a ChiSox player connects I’m holding my breath….
Holy sh- t, two outs in a row!
I have to admit that I’m a little surprised by Dreamy Eyes rapid decline. Didn’t a team ask for him in a trade and the Yankees said no?
aj will settle down. its always the first inning.
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You are prolly right.
Why is that?
He always has to get that one bad inning out of his system.
all I can say is the millions made by AJ from Yanks are too easy, way too easy.
niiiiiiiiiice
First guess and not a second guess….
Regardless of the results, it’s a mistake keeping AJ in this game.
AJ’s problem this year has been, he hasn’t had a quality curveball all year.
He also has no confidence in his two seamer.
So, if you can’t throw your curveball for strikes, won’t throw your two seamer, you are reduced to being a one pitch pitcher.
That gets you killed at this level as a starting pitcher.
Ace
I respect the competition. But I don’t agree with giving due when it doesn’t need to be given. Also you love to talk about how great the Sox are on a constant basis. I respect the sox but this is a Yankee blog not a Red Sox blog.
Great, now we have to put up with him for another inning.
whew an easy inning….all right, maybe there is still some hope
“If the Yankees can eat 9-10 million of A.J’s contract would any NL team take him?”
I think the Yankees would have to eat at least 10M for anyone to look at Burnett.
# Laura – I Bleed Blue August 27th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
Maybe AJ is injured and he’s keeping it on the down low. That seems to be the modus operandi these days.
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If that’s the case, he’s been injured his whole career.
I don’t want to be one of those guys who is always ragging on umpires, but…the 3rd pitch to Vizquel was pretty much in the same spot as the first pitch to Cervelli. One was called a strike, the other a ball. Can you guess which one?
Okay, I feel a little better now that AJ got through that inning rather “easily”. I would really hope that he is like the “old” AJ that had one bad inning but pitcher pretty well in the others. Fingers crossed.
Laura – I Bleed Blue August 27th, 2010 at 8:53 pm
I have to admit that I’m a little surprised by Dreamy Eyes rapid decline. Didn’t a team ask for him in a trade and the Yankees said no?
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Can we call it a decline??? I mean it is cervalli we are talking about,… When was he ” good”
MG….Good to see you…….AJ has no clue as to the definition of control…..CB has explained his rotation which makes perfect sense…But basically he’s a grove type pitcher…….Have you been away for awhile, I just realized that I haven’t seen you around much this season…..
Is Kay kidding me? Deep right? What is he doing?
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He’s not paying attention again.
He called the 1st pitch of the game fastball.
It clocked at 80mph.
JobaTipsHisCap August 27th, 2010 at 8:53 pm
all I can say is the millions made by AJ from Yanks are too easy, way too easy.
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Lol the way AJ pitches I can go out there and pitch for the Yankees and make millions
Pena’s OBP is that of Rondell White, circa 2002.
AJ’s problem this year has been, he hasn’t had a quality curveball all year.
He also has no confidence in his two seamer.
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bingo! when you have one pitch arsenal on a ml level and can’t locate it well… what else do you expect to happen.
The Yankees really have to start taking care of their own business without all this nonsense like giving credit to every mediocre pitcher who shuts them down.
The Red Sox are only on the periphery now, but if they beat the Rays a few times and the Yankees keep struggling, it’s going to be a 3 team race all of a sudden with the number of head to head games remaining, and considering the state of the Yankees pitching right now, that would be a scary situation.
Come on offense!
Wow great partner play
It doesn’t matter if he “settles down” now.
It’s still a garbage outing because he puts his team in a big hole on the road, after they gave him a lead, after the first six hitters of the game.
Unacceptable in a pennant race.
rakin ramiro is getting his average up
Say what you want, but at least Pena tries hard and is scrappy in a non-cervelli type of way.
watch as soo as the Yankees offense ties it up or get the lead back A.J. will cough it up. He does this all the time and he did the same thing in game 5 of the ALCS.
# JM August 27th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
Can someone be DL’d for being a mental case?
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Wasn’t Milton Bradley? Or was he just put on the “unable to perform” list, or whatever it’s called?
Pena> Nunez esp in a pennant race.
Better second inning, but it may be too late, if the Yankees can’t get something going against Garcia. There’s time, but AJ handicapped them.
AJ is proof that you can have all the “stuff” in the world but if you don’t know what to do with it or you can’t control it, it’s not worth very much.
I’m peeved because EVERY time he faced the Yankees he was almost unhittable. Where is that AJ?
For those of you who would still rather have AJ on ths team instead of a John Lackey or even Derek Lowe should really just stop following baseball. AJ is a below average pitcher always was always will be.
I don’t care how much “talent” you have if you don’t know or don’t care how to use it. AJ isn’t 24 years old anymore, he is past the age where you can honestly say “he’ll get it together anyday now”.
Put him on the waiver wire and hope some idiot GM who thinks AJ can make a difference will pick him up. Go with the younger guys in the postseason and hope for the best…
It’s the JalaPena show tonight.
i do agree that Pena tries hard…may not be much with the bat…but he sure as heck can play 3rd base…AND he gets hits every now and then
Pat M. August 27th, 2010 at 8:54 pm
MG….Good to see you…….AJ has no clue as to the definition of control…..CB has explained his rotation which makes perfect sense…But basically he’s a grove type pitcher…….Have you been away for awhile, I just realized that I haven’t seen you around much this season…..
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Pat M, I’ve been in and out, probably working too hard…
It seems like AJ just puts every fastball in the middle of the zone or misses badly, he’s just a mess out there right now, isn’t he? He’s going to have to change his pattern somewhere along the line and probably should show the change more just to make the fastball tougher to hit. First pitch breaking balls for strikes would probably help a lot, batters usually don’t go after them and then he’s pitching ahead in the count. But that’s pitching 101, it’s nothing Eiland and Girardi don’t know.
running? take not gardy.
We’re rollin’ now
What’s the injury? Crayon shoved too far up his nose?
AJ is the only pitcher on this team that I don’t seem to be able to cut any slack.
Okay. That’s a start. Good job, Pena and Gardner.
Hey, Gardner should take a page out of Pena’s book – RUN!!!
Nice job, Nino.
Like I told another poster A.J. will never change he is too old and too stupid. Just get Cliff Lee next year and bury him in the number 5 spot. Better yet I wish they could get rid of him.
Chippin’ away? Or just an excuse for AJ to give up more runs this inning?
Doreen August 27th, 2010 at 8:58 pm
Better second inning, but it may be too late, if the Yankees can’t get something going against Garcia. There’s time, but AJ handicapped them.
AJ is proof that you can have all the “stuff” in the world but if you don’t know what to do with it or you can’t control it, it’s not worth very much.
I’m peeved because EVERY time he faced the Yankees he was almost unhittable. Where is that AJ?
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Stealing Yankee Money.
GGBG should run!
yes!!! look at the bottom of the order doing it up big. Pena basically created that run with the hit and stolen base. So far Gardner has Garcia’s number
Didn’t John Smoltz have mental problems and sought out a shrink who helped turn his career around.
# TheStraw August 27th, 2010 at 8:57 pm
Say what you want, but at least Pena tries hard and is scrappy in a non-cervelli type of way.
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Everyone on the team “tries” hard.
Gardner better steal because Jeter will ground into a DP if he doesn’t
I don’t understand why Burnett doesn’t throw his other offerings, because his changeup and 2-seamer are actually really good pitches for him. He hasn’t had his curveball most of the year, but he was still very good early on because he was mixing it up.
I don’t like to say that players “give up” on the field because you figure they are always trying to some extent, but the way Burnett continues to throw the same garbage pitches that aren’t working without even trying to find a way to grind through it has made me wonder whether he does.
Burnett is emotional and hard on himself from what it seems, but he cannot control his emotions and gets frustrated to the point of not trying to grind through it anymore, and that’s what’s unacceptable.
Great jump.
Takes the DP away from Jeter
YEAH!
RUN BMG!
nice 2 SB!
Come on, steal, before Captain GIDP strikes again !
“Like I told another poster A.J. will never change he is too old and too stupid. Just get Cliff Lee next year and bury him in the number 5 spot. Better yet I wish they could get rid of him.”
Has anyone noticed that Cliff Lee hasn’t exactly given TEX what they traded for? I think they are under .500 in games he’s started since being traded there.
# Jeremy August 27th, 2010 at 8:59 pm
Like I told another poster A.J. will never change he is too old and too stupid. Just get Cliff Lee next year and bury him in the number 5 spot. Better yet I wish they could get rid of him.
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Other than A-Rod’s contract, A.J’s so the worst on the team. I wish the Yankees could get out of both deals.
nice. now they are making things happen..
I guess I meant to say, “tries to make plays”.
Hey! Gardner stole a base? Holy Cow, its either going to snow or he finally remembered he can run.
Rob B August 27th, 2010 at 8:57 pm
# JM August 27th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
Can someone be DL’d for being a mental case?
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Wasn?t Milton Bradley? Or was he just put on the ?unable to perform? list, or whatever it?s called?
Yeah, I think Bradley was put on the “restricted list” after that incident but the last thing I read about him he was on the real DL and I think he now needs knee surgery.
Cashman need to go
You are 100 % right. A.J. is a mediocre pitcher and that will never change. It would be nice if they could get rid of him.
Wow! Umps are going to get Ozzy going big time… any minute now.
Captain Clutch!!!
“Didn’t John Smoltz have mental problems and sought out a shrink who helped turn his career around.”
I have a hard time believing that someone with Smoltz’s lack of sensibilities would see a shrink.
Greinke?
Two hours into a game and the Rays haven’t reached HIT # 2 yet.
Jeter has a very pronounced limp now.
jeter epic fail.
typical yankee baseball.
good job jeter, well done
Jete is just not the same hitter anymore.
Horrible AB by Jeter he didn’t even advance the runner. Garcia owns Tex.
Love the Cap but he needs to be Paul molitor next yr
Awful AB by Jeter. He’s just brutal right now.
Jeter missed a horrible hanging breaking ball.
That was a hittable pitch.
Wow Derek.
Just hit it right side and move him over.
Wow, these are some crappy at bats!
Jeremy, I don’t think its that AJ is a mediocre pitcher, he has mediocre results. It seems more mental than ability, which is what makes him so frustrating.
Tex vs. Garcia equals automatic out you would think he would learn to stay back.
Tex is in a little bit of a slump too
and tb ruins a scoring chance f*ck
The Burnett signing was the correct one in the offseason. The Yankees needed top of the rotation, power pitching types, and Burnett had been the definition of that for pretty much his entire career. Once he had showed the past few seasons that he had more durability, it was a no brainer.
Anyone who would rather have Lowe is just delusional. Derek Lowe would have an ERA even higher than AJ Burnett in the AL. He eats innings, and that’s it. He’s a junk throwing sinker baller who tops out at 88 mph, he’s only been good because he was in the NL West for many years.
Remember what Lowe’s ERA was with the Red Sox before they let him go after the 2004 season? 5.42, even worse than Burnett.
And just a terrible at bat by Jeter there, not moving the runner up. Down 2 runs, you need to do the little things and scratch out runs, and he didn’t even put the ball in play. The Yankees never do the little things, and that’s why it always seems like they don’t come back much except in one inning bursts. Those runs are the difference in close games.
Embrace AJ as the 5 starter. Cos that’s what he will be next 3 yrs. Good as a 5. Bad as 2.
if playoff starts today and Andy is available, after CC and him, who’s next sp?
NONE.
tex: hit the ball out, not up.
This team hasn’t hit on the road all year.
That’s why the starting pitching has to be better than it’s been because the offense is not going to bail out the pitching a lot on the road.
Come on Cano, get a hit. Please.
Cano hitting .267 in August
And I loved the AJ signing which wad proven by game 2 n a title. Not like the yanks care bout ‘bad contracts’
At this rate, AJ will get bought out at some point.
nice jackass camera work by Yes.
Just missed it.
Just missed it. Great.
Damn.
Man…camera’s fooled me. I was following the right fielder and thought it would be at least a double. Boo!
Ugh
In this lineup if 3-4 don’t hit it’s dead.
Yogi Mantle
He has the goods but Burnett has never been able to put it together. Which is why he has been a mediocre pitcher over the course of his career. I agree it is frustrating.
Jeter and Tex killed our chances to get within one run.
damn. close. got one back, please dont give it back.
Please tell me why John Sterling is announcing games on the radio?
Thought that had a chance.
Just missed.
And I wish Kay would get off Cano’s back. It’s like he goes out of his way to find negative stories.
lol Cano dropped that bat like he hit a home run…
didn’t the Yanks have a runner at 2nd base with no out and not score….yea they should have gotten that other run in…
Sterling had me up and then down with that bungled play-by-play.
playing 500 ball and is showing.
no situational hitting, weak pops up
Second and third, nobody out, and can’t score.
Please go to Mitre this inning Joe.
If AJ gives anymore runs back, they coming from behind.
It’s tough enough as it is. Don’t make it tougher.
The reason the teams record is as good as it is is cos of pitching. They got great SP til recently.
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# IIOIIOIIO August 27th, 2010 at 9:01 pm
# Jeremy August 27th, 2010 at 8:59 pm
Like I told another poster A.J. will never change he is too old and too stupid. Just get Cliff Lee next year and bury him in the number 5 spot. Better yet I wish they could get rid of him.
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Other than A-Rod’s contract, A.J’s so the worst on the team. I wish the Yankees could get out of both deals.
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Hypothetical situation I was thinking about the other day:
Yankees place A-Rod on waivers, as I’m sure they did. Random team claims him (this would obviously never happen). Do the Yankees say – take him?
MG…The one thing that gets him in trouble is his drifting back to the plate fastballs….It’s as though if the rubber was 1 foot closer he’d be lights out…..His hook has all but disappeared since June
The Yankees only advance 35% of their baserunners from 2nd base with no outs. That ranks to third to worst in the AL, ahead of only Seattle and Cleveland.
That’s just terrible, and you need to be able to scratch out those kinds of runs if you want to win close ballgames against good teams.
Agreed with SJ. Play to win Joe.
There are no buyouts in MLB.
Can’t do it under the terms of the CBA.
Garcia not really fooling us. We keep it at 4 we can slug this out. AJ’s got to come up very big.
And everything A.J. is throwing is turning into deep fly balls.
# Eric August 27th, 2010 at 9:08 pm
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# IIOIIOIIO August 27th, 2010 at 9:01 pm
# Jeremy August 27th, 2010 at 8:59 pm
Like I told another poster A.J. will never change he is too old and too stupid. Just get Cliff Lee next year and bury him in the number 5 spot. Better yet I wish they could get rid of him.
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Other than A-Rod’s contract, A.J’s so the worst on the team. I wish the Yankees could get out of both deals.
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Hypothetical situation I was thinking about the other day:
Yankees place A-Rod on waivers, as I’m sure they did. Random team claims him (this would obviously never happen). Do the Yankees say – take him?
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This is a pretty interesting scenario. I would have to imagine they would let him go. The guy has 7 years and 170 million or so left. That’s just insane. Good hypothetical though, I’ll be thinking about it for the rest of the night.
All this talk about the postseason on YES is really annoying me. It’s far from a given that this team is making the playoffs the way they’ve played.
we are definately going to be screwed if Andy doesn’t get healthy before the playoffs….hell we may need him to make the playoffs
@Eric. Did u forget what he did in October last yr? What champ team gives away their best hitter???
Do u guys not get that these r the Yankees n bad contracts don’t mean anything?
“The Burnett signing was the correct one in the offseason. The Yankees needed top of the rotation, power pitching types, and Burnett had been the definition of that for pretty much his entire career”
AJ is basically a .500 pitcher except in his walk year. He cashed that in with the Yankee contract.
He has stayed healthy which I guess can be considered a plus.
My boy Montero is a beast. 2-4 single and a double. Threw out a runner. Almost threw out another.
SJ44 August 27th, 2010 at 9:05 pm
This team hasn’t hit on the road all year.
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that’s a strange statistic. Last year they hit .284 at home, .283 on the road with almost the same number of runs.
This year it’s .284 at home and .255 on the road with 80 less runs scored on the road. Losing Damon and Matsui don’t account for that difference, it’s most likely just coincidence but they need to do better the rest of the season or it’s going to be an early end to the season.
another walk.
Playing with fire staying with Burnett.
# Ace August 27th, 2010 at 9:11 pm
@Eric. Did u forget what he did in October last yr? What champ team gives away their best hitter???
Do u guys not get that these r the Yankees n bad contracts don’t mean anything?
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This is inane.
Just awful baseball by AJ and Cervelli. No dp, again.
Cervelli is not a good defensive catcher.
test
They r prob gonna give jeter a 3 yr deal for 20 per. Obv they don’t care bout $. They got a 5 mil pitcher toiling in mid relief for 3 yrs in Scranton!
Look for a meatball over the plate.
Has Evan Longoria finally realized that the best way in life is not to be a Red Sox Killer.
That he’ll be rewarded in the long run if he is not.
3 chances tonight to do something productive, and 2 strikeouts and 1 double play. The latest strikeout comes with bases loaded 1 out on a STRAIGHT Fastball with no movement right down the middle!
Maybe Evan has learned from Blue-Baldo Jimenez. Jimenez certainly got rewarded for his failure and his team’s failure in the 2007 World Series – now becoming one of the best pitchers in baseball.
Just terrible. He has no ability to throw a curveball anymore.
Staying with a guy who has nothing, can’t throw strikes, and can’t miss bats is a losing strategy.
Pat M. August 27th, 2010 at 9:08 pm
MG…The one thing that gets him in trouble is his drifting back to the plate fastballs….It’s as though if the rubber was 1 foot closer he’d be lights out…..His hook has all but disappeared since June
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the 4 seamer doesn’t have the same life through the zone of a couple of years ago, does it? The two seamer might get more ground balls but he’s going to have to adjust if he wants to win some games. The way the 4 seamer moves you would think he could pound it inside to righties and steal some strikes inside to lefties but he just doesn’t locate well enough.
**correction: Rays TV had bases loaded, but it was only 1st and 2nd with 1 out.
@//o. Y would the Yankees who don’t care bout $ give up their cleanup hitter who is still ultra productive?
AJ usually throws a wild pitch here, right?
Ace
Why do you post as if you were writing a text message?
Kay panicking over Andy’s rehab.
Matt where do you find all this….I have to think for every down stat, there has to be at least 5 plus stats…Of course we never see those…….
biggest difference between aj and javy:
we only need to suffer through another month of javy…
would any team take aj? an NL team maybe???
Patheric AJ, just pathetic. THEY DIDNT EVEN GET A HIT.
And, there it is, not a surprise.
Thank you, Kenny. This is what I have been saying/thinking about Andy all along. I am not counting on him to be –
IS THERE ANYTHING LEFT TO SAY HERE ABOUT AJ/CERVELLI?????
Way to give it back AJ.
Let me ask a ? How bad def can Montero be? Cos cervelli is brutal.
Good job AJ. Excellent job! Good job Francisco!
pathetic.
seconds August 27th, 2010 at 9:16 pm
AJ usually throws a wild pitch here, right?
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You are correct, Walk, Wild Pitch, Wild Pitch. Thats A.J.
Why can’t they do to AJ what they did with Javy?
Skip his turn.
Are they afraid they will lose him?
He’s already gone.
Just awful.
That’s the ballgame. AJ gives the run back.
Should have been out of the game 10 hitters ago.
@rich. On I phone. Easier I guess.
Cervelli is just brutal behind the plate right now, they should think about picking up a catcher on the waiver wire who actually resembles a major leaguer.
Boooooooooooo
Cervelli does not even belong in AAA he is that bad.
How do you miss a fastball that was 2 inches off the plate inside? You CANNOT give away runs like that, and the only reason that run scored was the two “wild pitches” that should have been caught by Cervelli.
Despite their record being 9 games worse than the Yankees right now, this White Sox team has the best record in baseball since June. You have to play like a major league team to beat them, and the Yankees have not showed up tonight yet again.
Actually, on second look I realized it was Cervelli again. These two are made for each other.
WTH?
And AJ gives it right back, just as I figured he would.
Nicely done there AJ, can’t even keep a run from scoring when you don’t allow a hit. Brilliant.
Burnett is either trash or pracitcally unhittable. And its mostly trash this year. He just can’t grind out starts when things go wrong for him. Simply not reliable. Good pitchers can battle thru when it looks like thigs might not be going their way and end up giving u 7 strong. Damn.
“Pena can’t hit. Case closed.”
Ace, Pena said he doesn’t agree.
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I’m not minimizing these series, for those who believe each game is vitally important, but I do want to say that Chicago needs these games more than the Yankees and the Sux need the games more than the Rays.
Just stating the obvious.
Rays playing without Crawford tonight.
What are you talking about SJ? That run is not on Burnett, AJ has pitched very well since the first.
That run is entirely on Cervelli. That run does not score without the last wild pitch, he struck out that hitter!
Could AJ be hurting and not wanting to say anything?
At least AJ gave back the run in a new and amusing fashion. I was waiting for Girardi to bust out laughing.
Who can we skip him for?? Another reason y Javy being brutal hurts.
Get off Matt’s back.
*practically
Hank really should not have said what he said yesterday.
The Dodgers have added Lilly to the waiver wire. Rather see him that AJ any day. Does AJ have a full no-trade? Not that anyone would want him, but just asking…
# Matt August 27th, 2010 at 9:18 pm
What are you talking about SJ? That run is not on Burnett, AJ has pitched very well since the first.
That run is entirely on Cervelli. That run does not score without the last wild pitch, he struck out that hitter!
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I agree somewhat, but not entirely–AJ did walk the batter.
Is the Cervelli experiment over?
aj hurting. yep he is hurting in the brain.
the bottom of the 3rd was a classic AJ inning. a walk and 2 wild pitches.
this guy is a joke. people have been mesmerized by his stuff for 12 years, this guy SUCKS……….
Damn poor Aceves.
Trisha- the Yankees are 12-12 in their last 24 and have blown a 4 game lead already in the division. We need to start winning games in a consistent way.
I know what everyone says, but I’d still rather see Montero back there than Cervelli.
you would think Swish would turn it on this series…with all the angst he has against Ozzie…
CERVELLI has to play scholars because the yanks main catcher is only 39 years old.
And for anyone who is dumb enough to root for Boston to beat Tampa so we don’t lose ground to them, keep in mind that Boston is still within striking distance. I’d rather Tampa sweep Boston than the other way around, even if the Yankees lose 2/3 in Chicago they’ll bury Boston deeper and increase their hold on a playoff spot.
and cervelli is catching AJ because why? oh thats right because they work well together and AJ hates pitching to jorge because he seems to always pitch bad when jorge catches (rolls eyes)
I guess Swish thinks this guy throws 97
Trisha- agree with you, but we need to win series against teams. 1 of 3 is not going to cut it from here on out.
@trish. I hope pena proves me wrong. Just don’t see the talent offensively. Def? Off charts
Bad pitch by AJ, but Cervelli should have caught it.
Swisher and Tex 0-26 against Garcia. Garcia is throwing nothing but meatballs.
Cervelli is crying out for help.
He does not want to play anymore.
He is saying , bring up that kid from AAA, he deserves it more than me.
its become so predictable that anytime we score, the other team will score in the very next AB.
Garcia throws pus.
The Yanks don’t hit pus.
Case closed.
I’ll settle for the Rays taking 2 of 3. That way neither teams gains much ground.
Cervelli does not have to play for any reason, they have tons of options in AAA and refuse to give them a chance.
Want a veteran? Choose Chad Moeller, he’ll do everything better than Cervelli even though he isn’t even that good himself.
Want some youthful spark? Bring up Montero, who will hit 10 times more than Cervelli and can’t be any worse defensively.
Want no contributions whatsoever? Continue to use Cervelli like an idiot.
How is that run not on AJ? He threw the WP’s.
What a complete failure he is. This guy is in his 30′s and still hasn’t been able to grasp what he needs to do to succeed. Look at Curtis Granderson. He knew he needed to do something and Long sat him down and changed his swing and look at the improvements in a matter of 1 game. For AJ not even attempt to improve start to start is beyond my mental capacity. I fail to see that his “stuff” cann’t be controlled. Rather just rid of him in a Yankee uniform.
is it sad that so far tonight…only the bottom guys in the order has hit…instead of the “big guns”
All of a sudden the Yanks will have a 4.5 game lead over Boston with lots to play. You know they will set it up so that the Yankees have to face Lester and Buchholz a total of four times over the final six games. This could be an absolutely epic collapse.
Its obvious the book on swish lately is he can’t hit a curve…. And until he starts proving otherwise that’s all he should see right now
AJ’s issue is immaturity.
We saw it with the personal catcher.
Now we see WPs and lack if concentration with runners on.
Live arms are only good when they’re connected to parts managed by mature heads.
AJ is a mess. Honestly I can think of only two positives – a start in the ALDS and 1 in the WS.
Anything else has been fair to poor.
Is that what the Yankees are paying for?
On a different note – I think Dereks playing through this leg issue has the potential to hurt this team down the stretch.
They have to realize a simple fact about AJ Burnett.
You can’t keep him in a game when he is in implosion mode.
He should have been out of this game in the first inning.
He just gives away runs in his outings.
That makes him useless as a starting pitcher.
You needed a shutdown inning to have a chance to win this game.
Instead, typical AJ. Walk, a few WP’s and giveaway another run.
You can’t manage this guy as if he is CC Sabathia. He’s not.
If you continue to, they won’t win another one of his starts the rest of the year because he doesn’t give you a chance pitching like this.
I thought cervelli would be better def. He hasn’t. He is not a regular catcher which is what he is right now.
“and cervelli is catching AJ because why? oh thats right because they work well together and AJ hates pitching to jorge because he seems to always pitch bad when jorge catches (rolls eyes)”
I don’t think Posada can catch 4 out of 5 days. So to the extent, deciding who he will catch is kind of arbitrary.
pettitte and AJ are polar opposites. pettitte will grind out a game, 6 innings 10 hits, 3 runs. when aj does not have it which is often he wets his pants…….
they are missing every 3-1 pitch they get.
The league made an adj on swish. He has to make it back.
It’s amazing that any junk ball pitcher who throws all changeups and dinky breaking balls can shut down this lineup.
Every hitter seems to be up there pulling everything and trying to lift it, so any pitcher that doesn’t throw them the fastball they are looking for will make them look like minor leaguers.
Last year’s team was so good because they hit over .280 as a team. This year’s team hits around .250 on the road. It’s hard to score runs when you never gets hits with runners on base, or hits in general.
Yanks went down too fast. They need to put more life into their at bats and start scoring.
GoldGlove-
Let’s not get hasty here. Still quite a few games between now and then for Yanks to right the ship or for Sox to slump.
Aceves just hit a guy in the neck.
“They have to realize a simple fact about AJ Burnett.
You can’t keep him in a game when he is in implosion mode.”
Girardi doesn’t seem to be able to discriminate between who deserves loyalty even when they struggle and who doesn’t.
He’s a good but not great manager, not that there are many (any?) really great manaters.
It’s Freddy Garcia!!!!!!!!!!
Give ME a bat!!!!
All of a sudden the Yanks will have a 4.5 game lead over Boston with lots to play. You know they will set it up so that the Yankees have to face Lester and Buchholz a total of four times over the final six games. This could be an absolutely epic collapse.
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this wouldnt be an epic collapse. a collapse yes, not epic.
By the way, Garcia hasn’t been so great of late. Why do you think we can’t get those runs back? There’s certainly time.
This is y they juggled rotation. With CC backing him u can go to pen early n often
Does it matter what Tampa-Boston outcome LoHudders root for?
Offense is not helping out.
Jeter and Damon of 09 > Jeter and Swisher of 10
The guys like throwing to Cervelli. I don’t see the Yankees making a change there.
Garcia is a smart pitcher. He’s doing what any guy does with a 3 run lead does. Attack. Throw strikes.
and you know how medicore the Yanks are against the East and we end the season with 17 straight games against the AL East.
# Cashman needs to go August 27th, 2010 at 9:21 pm
and cervelli is catching AJ because why? oh thats right because they work well together and AJ hates pitching to jorge because he seems to always pitch bad when jorge catches (rolls eyes)
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I’m rather skeptical of that idea as well, but the stats do back it up. This season in 37.1 innings, AJ has a 7.23 ERA throwing to Posada. Throwing to Cervelli, 3.73 in 91.2 innings.
# Carl August 27th, 2010 at 9:25 pm
Aceves just hit a guy in the neck.
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For some reason I feel like seeing this typed out might be more shocking that actually seeing the pitch.
“All of a sudden the Yanks will have a 4.5 game lead over Boston with lots to play. You know they will set it up so that the Yankees have to face Lester and Buchholz a total of four times over the final six games. This could be an absolutely epic collapse”
Uh no. Because it’s not going to happen.
The White Sox home broadcasters are the worst in all of baseball.
Time to put AJ on the DL with a phantom back injury. I would rather Mitre or Gaudin out the at this point. In the offseason dump AJ for mediocre prospects even if you have to eat a lot of salary. he helped win #27 last year but he is cooked right now. He looks like a guy who does not want to be out there. big Stein would not have stood for tHis.
meanwhile the Yankees are swinging at too many pitches early in the count, making it easy for a mediocre pitcher. If they have trouble with Garcia they should be making him work so they can get into the ws pen which is banged up.
And he still sticks with him.
Nick in SF August 27th, 2010 at 9:25 pm
Does it matter what Tampa-Boston outcome LoHudders root for?
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Its in our best interest for Boston to win the series 2-1. That way we can game two games on Tampa…if hypothetically speaking we were to sweep or win this series against the White Sox
Hindsight. This team really misses Molina. Great def catcher. N is cervelli a better hitter?
Rich in NJ August 27th, 2010 at 9:23 pm
?and cervelli is catching AJ because why? oh thats right because they work well together and AJ hates pitching to jorge because he seems to always pitch bad when jorge catches (rolls eyes)?
I don?t think Posada can catch 4 out of 5 days. So to the extent, deciding who he will catch is kind of arbitrary.
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Rick – off day yesterday – posada catches tonight day off tomorrow and plays on sunday
instead we will see cervelli play tonight and sunday – why is cervelli in there? – because he is aj’s personal catcher for the most part
btw – i guess eiland being away wasn’t the reason basketcase couldn’t pitch…
Ace August 27th, 2010 at 9:27 pm
Garcia is a smart pitcher. He’s doing what any guy does with a 3 run lead does. Attack. Throw strikes.
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Strikes he is throwing meatballs. The guy has a 9+ ERA in his last3 games. Yankees have trouble hitting pitchers who have no right pitching in the majors.
FYI. No one needs a DL stint with 40 man rosters in 3 days
“and you know how medicore the Yanks are against the East and we end the season with 17 straight games against the AL East.”
If A-Rod and Pettitte are healthy, they are the best team in MLB. If not, they struggle.
meanwhile the Yankees are swinging at too many pitches early in the count, making it easy for a mediocre pitcher. If they have trouble with Garcia they should be making him work so they can get into the ws pen which is banged up.
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Swisher follows Jeter’s lead.
He just has no ability to throw the ball over the plate.
Time to throw 3 more WP’s to give away another run.
Sure hope Ivan Nova can pitch because they can’t keep this guy in the rotation much longer.
All the Yankees have to do is take care of their own business with Tampa and Boston playing each other.
But if the Yankees continue to flounder and give away games, this Tampa/Boston series could instead turn this back into a 3-team race and threaten the Yankees’ hold on a playoff spot.
It’s time for this team to start playing baseball and stop making excuses for why they can’t get it done. Poor AJ Burnett with his 96 mph fastball and hammer curve, it’s so tough to get out major league hitters. Poor Cervelli who can’t catch a fastball that barely was off the plate, it must be though catching a straight pitch that you called for. Poor Yankees offense, it’s just so hard to hit Freddy Garcia and his 85 mph fastball and garbage rolling breaking balls.
So many excuses for why they can’t beat garbage teams and garbage players. The Yankees were in great shape for a playoff spot, but they’ve given away pretty much everything they had built up, and it’s time to wake up and play with some kind of intensity out there. Every team has head to head games against them, it’s not impossible for them to blow this lead over Boston if they continue to play like this.
But the Yankees once again have only themselves to blame for this situation. If they could score anything with bases loaded, no outs in that last game against Boston, they’d be 7.5 games back now and done. The only reason Boston continues to hang around is that the Yankees refuse to bury them.
Exactly mark. As long as he doesn’t walk anyone they can deal.
# Ace August 27th, 2010 at 9:28 pm
Hindsight. This team really misses Molina. Great def catcher. N is cervelli a better hitter?
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I was just thinking the same thing. Cervelli was a better hitter early on this year, but lately? Not at all. At least Molina was a pretty decent situational hitter.
Matt it’s a pennant race, bring in AAA ballplayers is not exactly what you want……What is the team overall team ba ???
I wish people would only look at the loss column when looking at GB. It is the only column that matters.
“Rick – off day yesterday – posada catches tonight day off tomorrow and plays on sunday”
That’s still a lot of wear and tear for a 39 year old catcher battling multiple injuries all season.
“btw – i guess eiland being away wasn’t the reason basketcase couldn’t pitch…”
I never thought he was.
syd -
I think the reason Swisher isn’t looking good is BECAUSE of the ill will there – he wants to prove too much.
Matt -
What TONS of options are there in AAA? Moeller is fine defensively, but can’t hit. Aren’t you already griping that there are 2 “pitchers” at the bottom of the lineup? How does that change that. Montero may or may not be better behind the plate than Cervelli is right now, but he is a 20-year-old unproven kid not on the 40-man and not really an option. The only other viable option is in AA, and he won’t hit either. So don’t know what you’re talking about with your TONS of options.
Can’t believe girardi here. Manage like the game means something.
Why Joe? Why stay with this guy?
He can’t get anybody out.
Get this loser off my team.
I guess Giradi wants to lose this game.
Its in our best interest for Boston to win the series 2-1. That way we can game two games on Tampa…if hypothetically speaking we were to sweep or win this series against the White Sox
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we only gain a game if we go 2-1 and TB 1-2
Amazing how much worse this team is hitting on the road this year. It doesn’t make sense, really.
One thing Molina would def do. End the opp’s running game. Cervelli? Not so much
Thanks, Joe, great job managing tonight.
This games over. I’m going out to enjoy my night in New York City. Good night everyone.
Bad bad baseball all around on that play.
Swisher is playing like garbage tonight. he needs to put his White Sox experience out of his head.
Matt is saying Cervelli can’t catch or hit.
At least Moeller can catch.
ugh watching AJ pitch is the most frustrating thing ever….he should be out of the game NOW. (Somehow its hard to comeback when the other team keeps scoring) and why wasn’t AJ backing up Cervelli….
Wel my over under for aj’s innings pitched at the start of the game I think we 4 2/3 innings we are just about there
It’s Juan Pierre.
You don’t even need a scouting report on this guy.
AJ is gutless, period.
Who exactly are they going to replace AJ with? They don’t have anyone……….the Yankees are stuck with him.
As to the starting pitching needing to be better, that’s fine…………if they had a staff really capable of that. CC is holding this rotation together by himself. Moselely has done a fine job given the physical tools he has to work with. Javy is terrible, but believe it or not, AJ is worse. Nova? Seems to have talent, but he’s an unknown quantity.
The offense is just not that great – it is what it is. Forget the names; most of them are having poor years.
Swisher is trying too hard.
This game is over folks. This team has been going through the motions for a while now. A-Rod and Andy can’t come back soon enough.
SJ….Giradi should have pulled AJ after the 1st as mentioned by some
You can count on there being new options on Sept. 1.
well, the game is gone
does anyone have any confidence in burnett anymore?
first it was posada, then eiland being away, now what?
Ballgame and AJ doesn’t even bother backing up the throw.
You keep a guy out there who should have been out of the game in the first inning, this is what you get.
Garbage outing #16 for Burnett this year and he’s still out there.
Amazing.
Why can’t AJ repeat is old self an go ont the DL? who will miss..anyone..anyone??
I thought the team would come out looking sharper after the off-day. Guess not.
This is why losing Pettitte was such a blow:
Burnett has been in goonie land all year.
Hughes is on an innings limit and looks to be running a quart low now.
Moseley is a AAAA pitcher doing ok in a pinch, but do you want him on the mound in an important game? Me neither.
Nova is a rook, nuff said.
Sabatahia is it, he’s a heck of an “it” but he cannot do it alone.
If Pettitte cannot come back to be at least as effective as he was before he went out on the DL, then you can forget about the playoffs this year.
You cannot win in this league without strong starting pitching, and as of right now, the Yankees don’t have it.
Are we debating moller vs cervali??
This is unbelievable. Red Sox back within 4 1/2 games. My goodness, without Pedroia, Youkilis, and only god knows who else.
I’ll be concerned when they’re back within 4 in the loss column.
I will not be concerned yet.
I will not be concerned yet.
I will not be concerned yet.
I wll not be concerned yet.
I willl not be concerned yet.
I will not be concerned.
I will not be concrened yet.
lol, $16.5M man!
The team hitting worse makes tons of sense. Lost Damon n Matsui. Two great off players last yr. Replaced by a guy hurt all yr n a cf with a 320 obp. Down yr jeter. Cervelli auto out at catcher.
tell me why AJ is being left in the game…and someone tell me again how the Yankees are going to come back. (Oh yeah!!!! take him out after he gives up 2 runs this FREAKING inning)
ahahahaahahahahah who called the over under???????????????????
Give back your paycheck for tonight, Girardi.
One more hit and this game is over. Dumb play there by swisher. This team is starting to get tight. I would rather watch re-runs of the 2004 alcs at this point.
Maybe the Cubs will see how Girardi manages and won’t want him. LOL!
Is anyone even warming up?????
I don’t understand Girardi on this one. Just don’t.
good night guys this is a slaughter
Do we have another Nova that can take this bum’s place?
how much longer are the Yankees going to wait until AJ finds himself? I think if he’s still the same pitcher by the middle of next season. They might let him go and eat up his contract. Or trade or something.
AJ had loser written all over him from day 1.
How some defended him is beyond me.
Jeez, let A.J. go to the pen for the long relief. So what if he’ll be overpaid for those duties. They had Kei Igawa earning big bucks for AAA pitcher.
OK, so Dave Eiland is here…what is his excuse?
Girardi auditioning for the Cubs job by trying to to get fired tonight. I mean why even take him out now, just let him get blasted on the mound till around midnight and then get him. Freaking Joke managing by Joe and AJ is beyond gone and ridiculous.
What are you talking about Doreen?
Cervelli is hitting something like .180 since the end of May, EVERYONE is a better option than him right now.
If you are going to start garbage hitters, at least start good defensive players, and that’s what Moeller is. Cervelli is a mediocre defensive catcher to go along with his non offense, and also calls a bad game behind there.
Montero is not just a AAA player, he is a once in 10 years kind of prospect.
I’d rather have your “AAA players” up here than a guy who deserves to backup the AA catcher. Your excuses for why Cervelli continues to play are just baseless. If you won’t start AAA players, then you certainly shouldn’t be starting AA ones either. Cervelli came up directly from AA last year, where he was hitting under .200. And guess what, Cervelli shockingly is not a major league caliber hitter, who knew?
Joe G after the game: he just couldn’t command his fastball today. AJ after the game: I felt real good out there today; I just made a couple of bad pitches and they hit them. Something I’ve got to work on.
Let’s be honest. Girardi gave this game up.
ac1 August 27th, 2010 at 9:34 pm
does anyone have any confidence in burnett anymore?
first it was posada, then eiland being away, now what?
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Maybe it is that aj is awful…. Hey at least he throws pies
“Matt it’s a pennant race, bring in AAA ballplayers is not exactly what you want”
Pat M
While I agree – and I have no idea who Matt is suggesting we get rid of – we brought on Nova and he pitched very well and had fire to him, standing up to that scum bag Bautista.
Nova – in one start – inspired more hope and confidence than AJ or Javy have in quite a while.
Joe G has given up on this game.
“The White Sox home broadcasters are the worst in all of baseball.”
Are you kidding? They are the worst announcers in all of SPORTS!!!!
I say sit Burnett and start Mitre.
You’re rolling the dice anyway, might as well roll with someone who might give your ballclub a chance.
mick -
I know what Matt said. But he said there were TONS of options and named two, one of which is not really an option.
Buy Joe tickets to Chicago, lol – or just leave him here when we leave.
pitching wins the game.
our starting pitchers suck, except CC and Andy, and don’t show me Hughes’ overall numbers, they are meaningless.
Besides, the offense is too inconsistent.
Ace August 27th, 2010 at 9:36 pm
Let’s be honest. Girardi gave this game up.
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Yup he prolly thought this win wasn’t important…it just being one game of many more to come….
Well A.J what can I say screw you for ruining my night. Get them tomorrow boys. A.J you suck.
Girardi is giving this game away tonight. Why is he managing like the Yanks don’t need to win games. I think Cash or one of the Steinbrenners needs to step in and make some moves before things really start to fall apart. We need another SP here. We need a better backup catcher here. Joe needs to start managing with some urgency.
Girardi goes from over managing to falling asleep. 4-2 it’s within range. Now? With this lineup?
Thanks Girardi by the way for not even trying to win a game in the middle of what is becoming a 3-team race in the AL East.
Wonder what we should do down 3 runs when the pitcher is starting to give up hard hit balls again? Leave him in until he blows it wide open? Idiocy at its finest.
What is the point of carrying all these pitchers if you refuse to use them. There was an off day yesterday, give someone else a shot to pitch better than him. Now it’s probably too much for them to come back with the terrible lineup Girardi ran out there tonight to appease his personal catcher nonsense.
You know they will set it up so that the Yankees have to face Lester and Buchholz a total of four times over the final six games
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and that is the difference between girardi and the rest of the managers – they’ll switch their rotation around to have their best pitchers face the teams they are battling for the playoffs –
francona comes up with dice k’s “bad back” so he can switch lester over to pitch tonight against the rays instead of dice k – girardi will never do that because he doesn’t want to step on anyone’s toes
has CC pitched against the blue jays this year?
Mitre should have been in this game in the first inning.
You don’t stay with this guy when he is in full implosion mode.
Get him out of the rotation and put Javy in his spot.
It’s all you can do right now.
He has no ability to get ML hitters out any longer.
To continue to run him out there to get pounded serves no purpose at this point.
Unless they enjoy losing. If that’s the case, keep running him out there because he won’t win another game the rest of the year.
Girardi mailed in this game. He has done this far too often this season when the SP has absolutely nothing.
“Showing confidence” is great, but there comes a point where that backfires.
You think AJ feels good that he gave up 7 runs and basically single handedly put this game out of reach, barring a great comeback? You think that Girardi showing confidence in him is a consolation prize?
Everyone could see AJ had absolutely nothing tonight and there was little chance that this was going to turn out well.
Sometimes it is just better to say listen AJ, I don’t think you have it tonight, but I have confidence you will get them next time.
I am sure AJ would have felt better about that than how he is feeling right now.
All of a sudden the Yanks will have a 4.5 game lead over Boston with lots to play. You know they will set it up so that the Yankees have to face Lester and Buchholz a total of four times over the final six games. This could be an absolutely epic collapse.
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I think this may be how it is word for word.
One thing George would do was go beserk after a game like this.
It wasn’t pretty but it got things done.
How they keep throwing him out there is beyond me.
Hope that’s the last AJ start for the year. Mitre and Gaudin can do better.
I have to agree with many people here, watching the Yankees piss away games instead of burying the redsox is going to cost them. The Yankees last couple weeks of the season are brutal and they are not inspiring confidence by playing 500 ball.
Bad pitching by Burnett and Vazquez, coupled with Pettite’s injury and inconsistent hitting, spells trouble to me.
I know they technically have many come from brhind wins, but Unlike the redsox this year and the Yankees last year, when this team gets behind it just seems like it is over.
Girardi didn’t give up on the game. His mistake was thinking that AJ was going to settle down. AJ NEVER settles down in starts like this. We can see that; how come he can’t?
Ace August 27th, 2010 at 9:36 pm
Let’s be honest. Girardi gave this game up.
Agree
Aj: ” hey this start was something to build on…..I feel great”
Joe: ” he missed some spots, but was throwing the ball really well”
Yankees will be panic if they got swept and Sux somehow sweeps, or even 2-1 wins over rays
YankeesWFAN Hide the plastic lineup card holders on the clubhouse doors—AJ Burnett is out of the game after 3.1 inn pitched.
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Why? Let him punch a wall…
CR9,
Are you serious? You don’t know who they should get rid of?
CERVELLI IS A JOKE. HE CANNOT HIT, HE CANNOT THROW, HE CANNOT CATCH PITCHES RIGHT AT HIS GLOVE.
Cervelli belongs in AA where he was called up from last year, he had done nothing to prove he deserved to be in the Major Leagues and it shows in his lack of skills on the field.
ANYONE who is a catcher from Romine up is a better option to catch than Cervelli right now. ANYONE..
When something is obviously not working and hasn’t been working for months, you don’t keep messing around in the middle of a pennant race.
I am not concerned about the Red Sox. I am not concerned about the Red Sox. I am not concerned about the Red Sox. I am not concerned about the Red Sox. I am not concerned about the Red Sox. I am not concerned about the Red Sox. I am not concerned about the Red Sox. I am not concerned about the Red Sox. I am not concerned about the Red Sox. I am not concerned about the Red Sox. I am not concerned about the Red Sox. I am not concerned about the Red Sox. I am not concerned about the Red Sox. I am not concerned about the Red Sox. I am not concerned about the Red Sox.
I don’t care what any stupid writer, Yankee-hater, analyst says….CC Sabathia is without question the most valuable pitcher in the American League. How can he not win the Cy Young (assuming he finishes strong) when you look at the Yankees’ starting staff the 2nd half of the year? It’s not even a debate IMO. He is a true horse.
Someone needs to tell me why Joe can rant at the Yankees over the KC game, but he can get away with this crap.
I like Joe and he’s a good manager, but if he really wants to go to Chicago – let him. He’s not worth getting into a bidding war over.
AJ Burnett will be the reason the Yankees don’t make it past the ALDS.
Cervelli strikes again!!
Another cheap run given away just like that…
all right, that’s it for me. enough is enough
When Joe gets a 20 mil for 4 deal from cubs can he give ARod n Mo half?
it’s pretty clear that unless Andy gets back to full strength before the playoffs the Yankees aren’t going to repeat. AJ is having an awful year, period.
A little historical perspective: in 1964, the Yankees called up an unknown rookie, Mel Stottlemyre, in mid-August; he goes 9-3 down the stretch as the Yankees come from way behind (partially the courtesy of Phil Linz’ harmonica as well as Pedro Ramos pitching the best ball of his career out of the pen) and take the pennant after being way behind. There is no reason to believe that Ivan Nova can come close to repeating that in 2010 but the Yankees also aren’t in the same position in the standings.
I’m sorry but AJ should have his next start skipped. He sucks and if Vasquez can have his start skipped why not AJ, who has actually pitched worse then Javy.
Good thing that rosters expand next week because they Yankees are going to need more arms very soon.
Bad news bears time. Oh my.
The way AJ has been pitching lately, I’m not sure he could beat PIT, HOU or BAL.
And now Cervelli threw it into center field.
Are you all happy now?
This guy DOES NOT DESERVE TO BE IN THE MAJOR LEAGUES.
Cervelli if he were not a catcher might be the single worst player in the major leagues right now.
Sept. 1st must have a real catcher on this team.
I hope they get beat 16-2 tonight. Maybe that will wake them up.
Yankees will be panic if they got swept and Sux somehow sweeps, or even 2-1 wins over rays
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But i thought there was no way Boston could catch us.
the Yankees in general look like crap tonight
Montero anyone??
Bring up, Montero.
Get him out of the rotation and put Javy in his spot.
It’s all you can do right now.
He has no ability to get ML hitters out any longer.
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Isn’t it ironic that Javy is the likely substitute for AJ?
Matt -
I didn’t said Cervelli is the best option. I’d be fine with Moeller for his defense. But you overstate the situation – there are not TONS of options to playing Cervelli.
And I’ll NEVER agree that Montero is an option right now, once in a lifetime prospect or not. You can’t bring a kid up who is still working on his game defensively to be a key piece in a pennant race.
ANOTHER cheap run given away just like that!
Cervelli again. He makes posada look like Johnny f’ng Bench.
Tough night for Aceves too…..
swbyankeesTT Seventh inning for Aceves: Two hit batsmen, two walks.
swbyankeesTT Lehigh Valley batted around in the seventh inning — and got ONE hit. #howbadwasalfredoaceves
This is one of those games you forget about.
The Red Sox are buried. They have been for weeks. This game changes nothing.
Really, Yankee fans should be rooting for the Red Sox this weekend, so the Yankees will have HFA in the playoffs where they are a much better offensive team.
I loved George, but I hated his ranting – why do people keep wishing for the poor guy to come back from the dead? It’s not happening and even if it did, I doubt his yelling would have an effect. The team is trying – they just aren’t that good right now. I’d like to know who on earth is motivated by being told they are no good, which in essence is what yelling at them would be saying?
THIS HAS TO BE THE WORST GAME PLAYED BY THE YANKEES THIS ENTIRE YEAR!!!
Again. Can montero be worse???
This is without a doubt the worst defense of the year by the Yanks.
Old fashion ass whipping tonight……Clunker in Chi-Town
yeah cervelli was supposed to bring defense, but clearly that ship has sailed.
LGY, I respect your opinions a great deal but they aren’t close to being buried.
Is the little league world series on? I want to watch some good crisp baseball.
Matt
I said I had no idea who you were suggesting we get rid of. At this point, Cervelli is terrible. He cant block pitches, he drops balls out of his glove on what could be attempted throws to 2nd base, then when he throws it, they’re bad throws. He cost us an inning versus the Sox with a dropped popup. He cant hit any longer. He cant walk any longer. He has no power and he gets out weakly on hitters counts. What’s more to say?
Girardi put Mitre in a position to fail. He should have started an inning.
@lgy. Be careful burying them. Theve hung around this long.
You said it, Kenny.
Cervelli can’t catch anymore games here.
Can’t throw, can’t block the plate and can’t hit.
Get Chad Moeller up here tomorrow. At least he can catch.
Cervelli is an embarrassment back there.
He’s the AJ of catchers.
Cervelli is garbage. How much longer are they going to keep seeing this type of crappy play from him, and yet insist he gets so much playing time?
I just can’t bother watching this game anymore. Maybe that day off wasn’t such a good thing.
Last year against CWS, the Yankees had a game like this. They lost the first game and came back and won the next two. Let’s hope history repeats itself.
Cervelli should try soccer.
I don’t think the RS are buried either.
I am not concerned about the Red Sox. I am not concerned about the Red Sox. I am not concerned about the Red Sox. I am not concerned about the Red Sox. I am not concerned about the Red Sox. I am not concerned about the Red Sox. I am not concerned about the Red Sox. I am not concerned about the Red Sox. I am not concerned about the Red Sox. I am not concerned about the Red Sox. I am not concerned about the Red Sox. I am not concerned about the Red Sox. I am not concerned about the Red Sox. I am not concerned about the Red Sox.
Cervelli has looked truly awful for awhile. Moeller can’t hit but neither can Cervelli. Can Moeller at least play better defense?
how can the Yankees as a team show up and play like this every guy out there should be embarrassed to have on the uniform…they look like a little league team out there…
Konerko did not hit a ball that would have even scored a single run in that situation.
Cervelli single handedly just gave away 2 more runs, and has given away 3 already in this game.
As bad as the rest of the team is, when you start players like Cervelli, it always comes back to bite you. If you start AA players in the middle of a pennant race, it’s going to burn you. You need to have legitimate players in these games, you can’t keep running him out there because he’s a nice guy.
Anyone have any good movie suggestions? I can’t watch this much longer.
# Laura – I Bleed Blue August 27th, 2010 at 9:43 pm
Last year against CWS, the Yankees had a game like this. They lost the first game and came back and won the next two. Let’s hope history repeats itself.
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Laura
Didn’t this all happen last week?
Joe on cervalli:
” he’s got guts..we love his fire! Kid is a fighter”
Props to Kay for telling it like it is about Cervelli’s complete ineptitude.
When was the last time they won an opener of a series?
I can’t believe the Yanks #2 starter has a 5.23 era. Just a horrendous performance and lack of guts from AJ. I personally don’t want him to ever pitch another game in that uniform, but unfortunately that albatross of a contract restricts that. FML!
I was calling for Moeller weeks ago and was told he was no savior. So what? At least he could catch……………
Rich in NJ August 27th, 2010 at 9:42 pm
Girardi put Mitre in a position to fail. He should have started an inning.
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Mitre did his job, he didn’t give up any hits. The two runs scored because of a wild throw to 2nd base and a pass ball by that idiot Cervelli
this is comical….
What a damn joke. I long for the days of The Boss calling the guys out with no guts, heart and brains. Cervelli SUCKS. I thought he is playing for his defense. He deserves to be in Scranton. Burnett is a no heart dog. He should get skipped and go to the pen. I’m tired of hearing “we have the best record in baseball.”. This team is completely LOST like their manager.
Yelling is not the issue, being proactive is.
Sad part is cervelli is the regular catcher.
Kay actually said something rational????
I have the game on mute, his voice was more annoying in the first few innings than most games. Sounds like he’s coming off of a cold or flu.
“Didn’t this all happen last week?”
Did it? I don’t remember. LOL!
” the aj of catchers”. Great line! Lol!!! Except he does not have a 5 year 80 million something contract
GOOD NEWS
Jesus: 2-4 with a double so far tonight
Brackmonster with another great performance: 6 IP, 2 ER, 4 Ks, 2 BB, and only 2 hits.
For all those blaming Girardi for this:
Yeah, maybe he left Burnett in too long. But after pitching fairly well in the 2nd and 3rd, I don’t necessarily blame him for letting AJ go back in the 4th. But he can’t pitch for AJ. Fact is, Burnett couldn’t get anybody out. Nor is Girardi to blame for Cervelli’s poor defense and the sloppiness of other players.
Although, he may be to blame for the poor positioning of the infielders. There have been at least two hits that happened because the wrong guy was shading towards the 2nd base bag in a DP situation.
Still, Girardi isn’t one of the guys that couldn’t even get Gardner to 3rd when he was standing on 2nd with nobody out.
“Anyone have any good movie suggestions? I can’t watch this much longer.”
“Body of Lies” on HBO Signature at 11.
Chambliss August 27th, 2010 at 9:43 pm
Anyone have any good movie suggestions? I can’t watch this much longer.
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I will be watching some season 3 of Chuck.
Maybe if Cervelli didn’t pick up dirt after each ball, he’d get a hit. LOL!
Pep – we caught lightning in a bottle with Aaron Small. You have no idea how Nova will work out, rook or not.
I agree that pitching is going to be key. I also believe that it will be fixed, one way or another, by the time we start the postseason. If we have to patch together innings with certain pitchers, then so be it. As long as we win. We certainly have the pitchers to put innings together.
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If Rays lose tonight Sux pick up a game on them and the Yankees, pending a Yankee loss. They’re still 5 games behind both in the all-important loss column.
I don’t know what you guys are getting on Girardi’s case for?
What options did he have? This guy is supposed to be his #2 pitcher … his #2!! He’s getting paid #2 money, and the management probably wants to get this “investment” in the groove.
Well, like SJ has said, he isn’t getting his mojo back, at least not this year. Unless Eiland can pull a rabbit out of a hat, sprinkle pixie dust and mutter bibbidy bobbadi boo, A.J. Burnett is done for 2010.
But, Girardi had to find out if he could battle back, well, he can’t.
This is not on Girardi, this is on Burnett, period!
“I long for the days of The Boss calling the guys out with no guts, heart and brains.”
Makes you almost wish Hank would speak up. Almost.
You hear that fan,”Cervelli, what do you think he’s gonna throw next?”
Tired of AJ.
Laura,
No, the Yankees lost 3 out of 4 in Chicago last year and had two of these games back to back, and almost blew the one they stole on the last day of that series. This team has no urgency, and it comes from its manager, who sets the example by leaving Burnett in to get destroyed night after night in a pennant race.
Everyone needs to stop saying Boston is buried. A team that is 5 out in the loss column after tonight with an entire month of the season to go is in no way buried, especially when they have a ton of head to head games remaining.
The Yankees were 4 out on September 12th in 2005 and won the division on the 2nd to last day of the season. The Red Sox are not out of this, but they would have been if the Yankees could take care of their own business and didn’t crap the bed and split that series at home against them.
Rich in NJ – don’t agree that Giardi put Mitre in position to fail…he put us in position to fail by having AJ in the rotation. AJ needs to sit like Javy…no other way about…this Jekyl and Hyde joke must end now. We need to put in 5th position next year because not a soul will take off our hands..we have what, three more years of this??
It has come to this. They have to win every CC start. Have to.
Singy killing Cervelli.
I’m tired of AJ.Bustnett. I don’t want t hear his tired excuses during the postgame.
Love to see all the rah-rah fans who said all season losing one game to this pitcher who never won a game, or this other pitcher who is a rookie doesn’t matter. We could really use all those games from earlier in the season.
The division is won by one game so many times and the yankees have one starting pitcher right now with andy out. Boston is going to be back and the yankees are a total mess…
“I don’t know what you guys are getting on Girardi’s case for?”
When your serially inconsistent starter is struggling yet again. try another option.
He messed up.
AJ didn’t leave himself in.
“The Situation” could pitch better than AJ…lol
Wow!! I have never heard yes network bash a Yankee like cervalli is getting bashed
Ok, who do you replace AJ with in the rotation? It’s not fair that Javy gets yanked (which he should) and AJ doesn’t. The difference is that there is something wrong with Javy’s arm (dead arm or what) and nothing with AJ. That’s basically what Joe said the last time a potential AJ removal was brought up. They don’t have anyone they can call up and there’s no way they are getting a good pitcher through waivers
The Yanks have to get rid of Cervelli. He is a disaster behind the plate seems to be overmatched in every way in the majors. The Yanks have to bring up Moeller.
Cervelli got a hit? Watch him make a base running mistake now.
How is Boston buried.
They throw a good starter out there everyday.
“No, the Yankees lost 3 out of 4 in Chicago last year and had two of these games back to back, and almost blew the one they stole on the last day of that series.”
Okay, I must be remembering the year before.
Cervelli tied for 2nd most errors amongst MLB cathers…everyone he’s tied with has played in 20+ more games. Kendall (#1 with 3 more errors) has played in 40 more games. Eeesh.
WOAHHHHHHHHHHH!!
Cervelli got a hit! A ball found a hole for us down 7 runs. Alright Frankie, really providing for the team.
Why dont you show that emotion that everyone loves….come on buddy, rather than helping the team more often, just show emotion!!!
Who knows, maybe we can come back this game.
Ok, who do you replace AJ with in the rotation?
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Uh, Javy.
Did Tampa’s heckler move to Chicago?
I do believe that for the most part we are 12-12 in August because the starting pitching blows more so then because of lack of hitting. (So the whole A-rod hurt thing isn’t really a big deal yet) There were about 3 of the 12 losses where it was a tight game that the Yanks lost because of lack of runs and about 9 where the starting pitcher mailed it in.
I do believe that for the most part we are 12-12 in August because the starting pitching blows more so then because of lack of hitting. (So the whole A-rod hurt thing isn’t really a big deal yet) There were about 3 of the 12 losses where it was a tight game that the Yanks lost because of lack of runs and about 9 where the starting pitcher mailed it in.
boston is without at least 3 starters and are 5 games behind the yanks..
cervelli stinks on all fronts that is the bottom line.
aj stinks……..
RiveraBlues
Mediocre long men should start innings whenever possible. It’s not like Girardi didn’t have multiple warnings that AJ sucked again.
BOS isn’t buried, but they have several players injured which makes their comeback unlikely. Not impossible, but unlikely.
Moeller is not that great an option either. He’s a backup in the minors. Up here with Posada’s nagging injuries he’ll be playing a lot too.
I’m sure they will lose 9-7.
I think it is time for Cashman to make a trip to Chitown. Close door meeting to talk about who This TEAM is and what they expect from them.
Pena at the plate is terrible to watch.
Garcia is the perfect pitcher to shut the Yanks down. He throws all garbage off speed pitches. When a pitchers fastball is under 90 mph the Yanks don’t hit.
Wow yes network announcers really sweating
Matt -
I am not saying they should stick with Cervelli now, because he has melted down – he is nowhere near the player he was last season for the — but they did win a WS with both him and Pena on the team last year and they both have one more year of experience behind them. It was reasonable of the Yankees to count on them for backup roles this season.
However, Posada has caught fewer games than they banked on; ARod is missing time. Pena at least is still stellar in the field. But they both are being used much more than was planned.
Nice at bat for cervelli. Must be listening to Kay.
Anyone have pedro’s number?
Ok. The Red Sox aren’t “buried.” Buried would imply them having no chance.
This is not a 3 team race though. The Sox have basically been in the same place for months, and for that to change would take a giant collapse on the Rays or Yanks and a huge comeback for the Red Sox.
I don’t get how anyone could think a team with a .570 WP all season will suddenly play .700+ baseball.
How is that reasonable to believe at all?
If the 3rd place team was named anything else than the ‘Boston Red Sox’ not Yankee fan would care about them.
Rich — that I agree with…
If not Montero, bring up Moeller, or Rene Rivera.
The reason I give the RS a chance is that the rotation is currently a mess.
“Moeller is not that great an option either. He’s a backup in the minors. Up here with Posada’s nagging injuries he’ll be playing a lot too”
If he can field, he’s still a better option than Cervelli.
Rob B, that’s true. This is a total team effort. I’m not even really upset anymore – what will be, will be. If they are good enough, great. If not, that’s unfortunate. Cash did all that he could, but when the middle of your lineup, not to mention your leadoff hitter, are having poor years, what can be done? I don’t blame the struggles on Andy’s injury because Moseley has done a fine job. AJ has been awful all year except the beginning – nothing to do with Andy. Javy has been awful – and his struggles have as much to do with his physical condition than anything else. Phil has been not so good since the ASB. Again at this point, it is what it is.
My biggest problem with Joe is that he never trots out the same lineup two days in a row, how is a team supposed to hit consistently when the players don’t know if they are in the lineup or not everyday. When you combine that with subpar years from Jeter and Arod and the many injuries, it puts the Yanks at a disadvantage.
Boston being this close with the injuries is an incredibly scary thought.
If they had stayed healthy this year, they may have won this division and the Yankees may have finished in 3rd place with 95 wins.
The Yankees are in this position because they have played well to an extent, but also because they are very lucky that Boston hasn’t been healthy. They have not played well against contending teams, and have destroyed the bottom feeders all season.
Betsy August 27th, 2010 at 9:48 pm
Ok, who do you replace AJ with in the rotation? It’s not fair that Javy gets yanked (which he should) and AJ doesn’t.
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Javy pitched fairly well in relief the other day. I say pull Burnett and give Javy another shot. If he pitches like crap again, then give Burnett the next start when that rotation spot comes around. Or give it to a guy in AAA.
I hate all this talk by the announcers and Hank and fans about the postseason. Wake up people, they are not a lock to make it there!
Home ump sucks. Garcia getting lots of borderline pitches
“The Red Sox are buried. They have been for weeks. This game changes nothing.
Really, Yankee fans should be rooting for the Red Sox this weekend, so the Yankees will have HFA in the playoffs where they are a much better offensive team”
LGY, totally agree. And their taking a game from the Rays tonight doesn’t change that.
And yeah, who said the Yankees aren’t doing well on the road this year? They have the 3rd best record in the majors.
I know game threads are conducive to spontaneous utterings, but isn’t it good to say things that are factually correct when quoting stats?
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Today Peter Gammons said that the Rays and Yankees are the best teams in baseball, bar none.
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Is 27-20 the definition of mediocre? Someone said the Yankees are mediocre against the AL East.
We could actually come back in this game, and the HP umpire just cheated Brett Gardner out of Ball 4 on 2 occasions and got a double play out of it.
HP Umpire = kicking us when we’re down.
Another fail by Cash in a season filled of em. No legit UTL infielder.
AJ simply sucks. He needs to be skipped for the season. He’s no help. A freaking waste of money. Dump the SOB.
Uh, Mick……….Javy is awful and I don’t care about his last outing in the pen.
“They throw a good starter out there everyday.”
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Really?
People can’t honestly still buy this crap that the media is pushing all year?
A good starter everyday?
Josh Beckett and his 6.5 ERA, John Lackey and his 4.51 ERA, and freakin Matsuzaka?
How can people still say that with a straight face after seeing what the Red Sox pitching staff has done this year?
How in the hell does this happen after an off day???????? Sloppy sloppy sloppy. Embarassing, take some pride. WOW!
Cervelli had no part in winning the WS. Molina was the backup.
Pretty sad.. our best chance to rally was two #9 hitters..sad…
from 3-0 to a double play?
just going to be one of those nights.
U think a team that has 1 good SP is a lock??
I thought Joe went too long with the Hughes the other night as well….The pen is a strength of the club right now, maybe he should take advantage of that ….The rotation is in pieces
Get rid of cervelli already. Moeller would be a major upgrade at this point.
Did you conveniently forget Lester and Buchholz.
Thats called selective memory.
Saying that the Yanks have not played well against contending teams is not true if you count Minnesota, Texas and the Red Sox as contending teams.
YankeesWFAN Hide the plastic lineup card holders on the clubhouse doors?AJ Burnett is out of the game after 3.1 inn pitched.
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can they do to aj basketcase what they did to the goalie in the movie “Victory” with sylvestor stallone?
They can’t hit Garcia and he is pitching to the score and grooving fastball after fastball to them.
It may not have mattered if Burnett held them down because the offense again has not shown up against a mediocre pitcher.
The pitching has been bad many nights, but the pitching has kept them close enough in most of these games. When you are only down 2-3 runs in games, you need to be able to find ways to scratch out some runs and steal games occasionally.
This team never bails out starting pitchers who have so-so starts. Maybe Burnett wasn’t great tonight, but Garcia has a worse ERA than Burnett coming into tonight. Sometimes you have to win a slugfest, but this team never does because it gives up as soon as its pitchers put it in a hole.
The Yankees have two major problems….starting pitching and catcher.
They have to stop playing Cervelli. He’s a disaster.
He’s hitting .170 since June 1.
He can’t throw. He has the second most errors of any catcher in baseball.
He can’t 3-4 days a week for a playoff calibur team.
Get Moeller up here tomorrow. He’s a veteran catch and throw guy who can at least stabilize the position right now.
That’s the first step.
Next? Get AJ out of the rotation and PRAY Andy Pettitte can come back.
In the meantime, put Javy back in for AJ and dint be afraid to pull guys early in games.
They have 13 pitchers on this roster. They will be able to add more on September 1.
There is no reason to leave guys out there to put you out of games when you are carrying 13 pitchers.
The RS rotation is mediocre, but it’s better than this one right now.
I vote that Girardi gets tossed in the first inning tomorrow! Who’s with me?
mick,
Why would I list their good starters when talking about their bad ones?
Last time I checked 2=everyday.
Trevor, all we need is a guy that can catch. He doesn’t have to be Johnny Bench.
LGY, I’m not spending any time thinking about the Sox except when people keep giving blow by blow descriptions of their games, but they have games against us and the Rays………and their pitching is a lot better. Yes, I know about Lackey and Dice K, but they are capable of pitching good games…………and Lester is a great pitcher while Buchholz is excellent. We have CC and no one else.
Don’t have a good feeling about this team heading towards the end of the season. More question marks come out every day and the pitching is getting worse. Combine that with a sporatic offense and you got problems. Yanks need to have a serious team meeting. Jeter is the Captain, right??
Montero is batting .361 post all star break. 122 at bats. Throwing out 23 percent of all base runners.
Please call up him or Moeller.
YankeesWFAN Hide the plastic lineup card holders on the clubhouse doors?AJ Burnett is out of the game after 3.1 inn pitched.
Sweeny Murti is a jerk.
* 2 =/= everyday *
I would replace AJ with anyone at this point. Bring al leiter out of the booth. I don’t care.
Papelbon walks aybar. Tieing run to the plate.
CR9 August 27th, 2010 at 9:53 pm
We could actually come back in this game, and the HP umpire just cheated Brett Gardner out of Ball 4 on 2 occasions and got a double play out of it.
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Wrong. Sorry, but that’s just not true. I’m one to criticize the umps as well, when they make bad calls, but in this case Gardner actually got the benefit. Pitch #2 could very well have been called a strike, according to its location on Gameday. But it wasn’t. The pitches called strikes are well within the zone.
No one did a worse job than Cashman. Only good move was he got lucky with Logan. Lil tougher when u just can’t sign the best.
Trisha,
I love your enthusiasm, I really do, but this pitching staff is not going to get fixed “one way or another.” Too many key guys are just not pitching well – at the worst possible time!
If Pettitte can come back, and be the Andy we all know and love, then my worries are going to be less.
But, even with him this starting staff is not instilling confidence in me.
Rob, I don’t give Javy another shot yet…….and one outing is not enough for me to say he’s physically fine.
I know Sweeny personally. Ease up. The guy is trying to make light of an awful game.
Girardi, Eiland and Cashman need to have a kick in the pants meeting with AJ. Enough is enough with his bs already. This team has no chance in the play offs with him pitching the way he is this year. Last year he was hot for 6 starts, bad for 6 starts but this year he is just dreadful. He needs to finally step up and give this team a chance instead of pitching like Farnsworth’s twin.
# Rich in NJ August 27th, 2010 at 9:56 pm
YankeesWFAN Hide the plastic lineup card holders on the clubhouse doors?AJ Burnett is out of the game after 3.1 inn pitched.
Sweeny Murti is a jerk.
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I dunno. I actually think that one is kind of funny.
All I hear everyday is how great the Sox are and if they didn’t have any injuries they would be in first place. That may be true but that’s not the case.
AJ Bustnett everyone
where are all the defenders now?
LGY, that’s just not fair. Lester is tremendous and so his Buchholz. Yes, Beckett, Lackey and Dice-K are varying degrees of mediocre/bad, but they are not as bad as who the Yankees are throwing out there.
Now Meat Tray doesn’t want to cover 1st base. Just don’t get it at all. Playing like the Natty’s tonight, going throught he motions. Even the Nationals play a lot a lot harder than this.
Even what the Yankees have done against Boston is not good enough, because included among those games are a game they blew with a 5-1 lead after 7, and one in which they lost 2-1 and scored nothing with bases loaded, no outs.
The Yankees if they took care of their own business would have long buried Boston. The only reason they are still in this race is that the Yankees have blown a bunch of games to them that have allowed them to hang around.
The Yankees last year had an easy go of it because they buried Boston by winning a lot of close games from them in August. This year’s team could have done the same thing, but they didn’t because they let those same kinds of games get away. Now they have to sweat it out and might barely make it to the playoffs unless they wake up soon.
Dear Cash,
bring up Montero. This is embarrassing. He can’t be worse.
Thanks
# Bryan August 27th, 2010 at 9:58 pm
AJ Bustnett everyone
where are all the defenders now?
Who in the hell has been defending him?
I doubt that’s Sweeney as he’s probably on his honeymoon. That said, he’s still a jerk.
Betsy,
I wasn’t talking about Buccholz and Lester. I was responding to mick.
mick said the Red Sox throw a good starter out there everyday. That is simply not true and I can’t believe people are still pushing that BS line.
“I hate all this talk by the announcers and Hank and fans about the postseason. Wake up people, they are not a lock to make it there!”
BA, I respect your right to think that but there are some of us who think they are a lock.
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“Boston being this close with the injuries is an incredibly scary thought. ”
Matt, haven’t you seen teams with injuries rally round and play over their heads for a long part of the season? The problem is they can’t sustain it. Don’t you remember the season that the Yankees were incredibly riddled with injuries and were still first in the division and EVERYONE was paying homage to Joe Torre for getting his team to the postseason with so many injuries? I sure do.
It happens. But it’s really tough to play at the necessary level if and when you get into the postseason. Sux have too many of their key players out to be able to go the distance. They’re missing Ellsbury and Pedroia and Youkilis and Mike Cameron – and they absolutely cannot rely on Wakefield, Beckett, and Lackey. You can’t play from 5 games behind in the loss column with only two sure bets – Bucholz and Lester. And as we say the other night, Lester isn’t going to win every game.
Betsy, you have to sit AJ and give Javy another shot, at least one, he can’t be worse than AJ.
In Sept., you might see a youngster.
And if the Yankees don’t win it all this year then so what. You can’t win every year.
It doesn’t matter if he is physically fine or not.
Javy has to pitch because AJ can’t get the job done.
If you aren’t on the DL, you have to be ready.
It’s all hands on deck time.
Somebody has to be able to pitch. If AJ can’t, it’s Javy’s turn.
IF they were healthy they MIGHT be ahead. Well, they’re not and they’re not.
The situation is what it is. And, you know, you can’t script the baseball season to a tee.
Oddly enough, the worse the Yankees are losing, the calmer and more rational I get.
But there does need to be something addressed. It’s getting late early and just looking at AJ’s body language, you can’t figure he’s going to just “find it.” And Cervelli is in a deep, deep funk and is not functional behind the plate, which was supposed to be his strength. There may not be a perfect option right now, but status quo isn’t going to cut it.
They can still take this series; it looks like the won’t lose ground to the Rays tonight. The Red Sox are a factor, but I don’t know how much. One things for sure, if the Yankees are down to CC and Hughes, it’s going to be “interesting.”
I’m not really worried about the Sox going on a tear. I’m more concerned with the Yanks going into a deep funk and only winning 1 out of every 3 games. That would mean that .500 ball by the Sox would put them back in the race.
LGY, oops sorry – well I agree there, but the other guys they throw out there are capable of throwing good games (mostly mediocre or bad ones). I don’t have any faith in any starter other than CC.
Mitre for the rotation!!!!
Can’t be any worse than AJ!!!!
Why is Maddon reluctant to use Crawford tongiht.
Sweeney isn’t on his honeymoon. look at the pic of Girardi doing is presser, murti is right there.
Betsy- do you call into WFAN?
Too bad Cashman wasted $4m on Berkman and now they are probably done spending $. If no one claims Kuroda he would be a perfect for this team. Or even Lily. At point anyone decent would be a good addition. You can’t win with a rotation of CC and hope for the best.
Jeremy August 27th, 2010 at 10:01 pm
And if the Yankees don’t win it all this year then so what. You can’t win every year.
Agreed, I will be disappointed but I think I’ll live.
@unknown- Crawford a late scratch with a stomach virus
Javy can be worse than AJ – or as bad. Have we all forgotten that just because of tonight and Javy’s good pen outing? To say that we should forget whether Javy can physically pitch, which is what we were sayin his last start, doesn’t make any sense. I agree that AJ can’t get it done, but sorry – Javy is no better.
“I dunno. I actually think that one is kind of funny.”
Even if it is, the guy is a jerk, imo.
the cheerleaders with the pom poms usually defend Bustnett
difference tonight. our 5 era pitcher gives up 9. their 5 era pitcher gives up 2.
Is there a danger that we’re going to slip into an alternate reality in which the Redsox have none of their injuries and the Yankees have all of theirs?
I hope not.
Disagree betsy.
Javy looked better in his last start.
Why shouldn’t AJ get the same treatment Javy got?
Ghetto, no – I would never call Joe and Evan, though they’re ok. If I were inclined to call Mike, I would never get through – too busy. I callled when Kim Jones was on, but I think that was 1050 and that was last year.
I guess there’s nothing wrong with backing into the playoffs…
Of course, we won’t have a starting pitching staff beyond CC when we do. Hughes’ arm will be about ready to fall off, and he didn’t exactly show up last year. Andy will have been out for two months (if he even comes back) and thus won’t have the time to get his 38 year-old body into playoff shape. And no one wants AJ or Javy starting. Nova is our No. 2 at this point.
And isn’t this the year they addressed the days-off issue, so you will need four starters?
What do we do? Score ten runs a game?
Mick, because that was out of the pen……….and as I just said, I think we’re all forgetting how god-awful he was his last start.
I’m all for giving AJ the boot, but what – to send Javy out there only to see him crap out and then we’ll all want to give him the boot?
mick -
Cervelli was also a back up last season and ended up playing more than expected because Molina also missed time.
He was part of the WS team.
“I love your enthusiasm, I really do, but this pitching staff is not going to get fixed “one way or another.” Too many key guys are just not pitching well – at the worst possible time”
Pep what I’m saying is that the Yankees know how to take care of business. The rotation they take into the postseason will be a solid rotation. Count on it.
Did everyone see that Ted Lilly was put on waivers? He has a 5-0 record since joining the Dodgers and he has a WHIP of 1.0374. Wow.
Merciless Pepper of Quetzalacatenango…
Garcia has been a worse pitcher than Burnett this year, and the Yankees have allowed him to dominate them.
It’s not always about AJ Burnett in the games he doesn’t do well in. Sometimes the offense has to pick him up, but they haven’t even showed up tonight.
With how bad Garcia is, they may have been able to score 3 or 4 more runs and give themselves a shot with the way he is throwing it down the middle with his lead. Instead, they have been giving away at bats and have pretty much given up in this game.
No urgency, and no results. What do you expect?
Anyway, AJ’s next start would be Sept. 1 when there will be callups.
SJ, which AAA guy do you start?
Trisha, I really hope you are right but I am not filled with confidence the way the yanks have played lately.
Time to pack it in. Another terrible opener of a series. Guaranteed. Team meeting tom
it doesn’t really matter what the Red Sox do or don’t do. The Yankees fate is in their own hands. They play Tampa Bay 7 times within the last two weeks of the season and Boston 3. If we win we are in, bottom line. The only problem is right now the Yankees are playing .500 baseball and has looked there worst all season.
is adam dunn a free agent?
Straw, agreed……….I’m much more concerned about the Yankees play than the Sox..
# Jeremy August 27th, 2010 at 10:01 pm
And if the Yankees don’t win it all this year then so what. You can’t win every year.
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Hear, hear! Do people forget that no team has repeated as WS champion since the 1998-2000 Yankees? And 8 different teams have won the last 10, with only the Yankees and (grrrr) S*x winning more than one?
Having said that, if they can just make the play offs, they’ve got as good of a chance as anybody. It’s all about who puts it together for the month of October, not who is playing better in August.
Oh well, I cant hate SchnOzzie Guillen – he did get his team to effort in the 2005 ALDS, to prevent the Red Sox from back to back championships*
The Straw
Yeah. I would be upset as well but the Yankees won it all last year and no team can win it all every year. The 1996 bandwagon Yankee fans think that the Yankees have to win every game and win the World Series every year. They grow up in a fantasy world.
Pep what I’m saying is that the Yankees know how to take care of business. The rotation they take into the postseason will be a solid rotation. Count on it.
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Trish
I don’t know how you can say that.
OK…that’s it for me..its okay for the RS to win tonight for one reason..we are still tied for first…Cashman needs come visit the team like he did in Atlanta last year and light some fire under their butt..
They have been going through the motions the entire year and need to remind themselves LAST YEAR IS OVER..
Trisha -
I saw Lilly pitch when we were in LA against the Padres. He looked good; but you still have to wonder how he’d translate to the AL East. Still, he’s a lefty and can he be worse than AJ has looked lately?
The only stomach virus Crawford had was when he saw the Red Sox uniforms in the hallway prior to the game and called his mommy with a “tummy ache” I guess he wanted no part of stealing bases rampant on the sox.
Javy pitched better the other night than AJ has pitched in two months.
Javy has actually pitched better than AJ since May 1.
You go with the better guy.
The Yankees are 28 games over .500 this year and AJ is three games UNDER .500.
Do you know how bad you are to be three under .500 on a team 28 over?
Get him out of the rotation ASAP or just be happy losing the rest of his starts the rest of the year because he’s toast the rest of the way.
As to Phil, although I don’t think he’s very reliable, I’m not about to kill him. He’d had a few decent starts in a row up until last night. It’s asking a lot for him to help carry the team when he’s way past last year’s innings count. This is all on Javy and AJ.
it doesn’t really matter what the Red Sox do or don’t do.
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ridiculous.
It’s not about the Yankees winning the World Series this year.
If this team continues to play as it has been doing, they may not even make it out of the first round given the competition in the AL this year.
Given the talent on the field and the expectations of this team, that would be beyond just disappointing, that would be a tremendous failure.
Who are you guys trying to convince, yourselves? Anyone who wouldn’t be devestated if this team backed into the first round and got knocked out by a lesser team is deluding themselves.
Skip AJ’s next turn…….Thing is, when camp broke he was dynamite thru April and deep into May…..Lot’s riding on Andy Pettite to stabilize the rotation…..This is not the time of the season for the staff to leak oil…….AJ can bounce back, but his head is constipated right now
SJ, Javy has been awful – and just because AJ has been doesn’t change that fact. Go back to his last start – not relief appearance – his last start, and read some of your comments.
. This is all on Javy and AJ.
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Who signed them?
Better to build from within like we are doing now.
That said, I suppose he’s been better than AJ…….this really sucks,lol
“Did everyone see that Ted Lilly was put on waivers? He has a 5-0 record since joining the Dodgers and he has a WHIP of 1.0374. Wow.”
Not sure that I trust him to do that in the AL East, but he couldn’t do worse than August AJ. Don’t know that the Yankees really have a chance on him, though. He has to go through all the other NL teams and all the AL teams except for maybe TB before the Yankees would be able to claim him.
SJ44 -
I would rather start Mitre than Vasquez at this point.
Let Vasquez sit for a while longer, maybe that will help. But, give him a little more time to get well before you put him back in there.
You are right, Burnett has to go into the pen as a long man now. Work with him, see what you can do with his mechanics and whatnot, then put him into some games to see if it’s working. If he seems to be responding, then put him back in the rotation. But definitely do not give him another start. He doesn’t even give his teammates a chance.
# Betsy August 27th, 2010 at 10:11 pm
SJ, Javy has been awful – and just because AJ has been doesn’t change that fact. Go back to his last start – not relief appearance – his last start, and read some of your comments.
Javy has had dead arm. We seen it in his velocity. What is AJ’s excuse?
AJ can bounce back, but his head is constipated right now
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His head is definitely jammed up.
What’s really disappointing about the games Burnett has started is that they aren’t even winning the ones in which he pitches well to make up for nights like tonight.
He had a game of 8 IP 1 ER in KANSAS CITY and got a LOSS. He threw a game of 7 IP 3 ER in Texas and got a No Decision.
AJ is an inconsistent pitcher, that’s who he is. He’s been more inconsistent this year than in the past, but he has given them many chances to win games and they haven’t backed him up.
It’s not all on the pitchers, the offense has been underachieving for much of the season as well.
Mick, it’s going to be an awful contract, but a lot better than Derek Lowe.
I don’t blame Cash at all for either AJ or Javy…………No one could have forseen Javy losing it all so quickly.
boston is going to be 4 1/2 out with more than a month of baseball left including 6 head to head with yanks. they look buried to me. funny how a week ago some posters “demanded” that all red sux talk stopped on this board. hope the yanks are not as dismissive of the sux as some people here.
The offense can’t bail out AJ’s starts when he is in full implosion mode like he was tonight.
No offense can.
They tried and he kept imploding and giving runs back.
Hitters are batting .232 against Mitre this year.
I’d give him a start before I put AJ back out there.
Javy has had dead arm. We seen it in his velocity. What is AJ’s excuse?
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Deadhead?
http://tinyurl.com/yankees-rotation-challenge
Great article on the status of the Yankees rotation
Tricia, The Dodgers are just sending out feelers on these players and getting a gauge for what they can get….This all depends on how they do in Denver this weekend…..It all has to be done by August 31st for a player to be on the postseason roster
Carl, who’s making excuses for AJ? I’m not………..
I would have went for Lowe over AJ.
Gameday just had Mitre at 94 mph, and he usually is only throwing 92, so Burnett’s 95-96 was really more like 93-94. Maybe that explains why he’s getting hit so much still.
What that also means is that Freddy Garcia’s 89-90 is really 87-88, which makes you wonder how they are not hitting him.
Mariano hasn’t pitched in 6 days
I would actually put Mitre out before AJ as well. He’s no good, but he’s more like a mediocre no good who may at least give us a few innings before crapping out…………AJ in the pen? LOL Our new long man – only use him in blowouts
This is just disheartening.
At this point, we only have CC and an innings-limit Phil Hughes. And a journeyman Dustin who can’t be significantly relied upon.
Oh gee. Imagine if girardi was awake n went to mitre at 4-2.
Matt-
Did you ever watch this team in the ’80′s. Were you even alive in the 80′s? Those teams were disappointing.
Lowe was pathetic last year in the weaker NL; he would have been much worse in the AL
Here’s a classic LoHud post:
Matt December 12th, 2008 at 5:17 pm
Alright A.J. Now we resign Pettitte and we’ll have the best rotation in baseball. Pic it
Sabathia
Burnett
Wang
Pettitte
Chamberlain
That’s one heck of a rotation. Good job Cashman.
AJ has had 10 starts over the past 2 months.
Basically 6 of those starts he has been great and 4 he has been awful. There really hasn’t been any in between.
He is a better option IMO than Vazquez. For his 4 past starts Vazquez has barely showed that he is a starting pitcher. The stuff Vazquez has been throwing recently would get crushed in the playoffs. He has been barely getting by with no fastball and fooling hitters with slop. That doesn’t work against playoff teams.
If Girardi accepted the reality and who AJ is they can utilize him to be successful. Trusting him or sticking with him just doesn’t work. We have seen that play out too many times and turn out like tonight.
Personally, I would stick with AJ on a short leash. If Good AJ shows up, then great.
If Bad AJ shows up, react to what is unfolding before your eyes and get him out of there before he puts the game out of reach. Have someone ready to back AJ up.
@syd_cash
What are you talking about. The yankees in the last 9 games of the season play the RS 6 times and toronto 3 times. The Rays have Seattle, Baltimore and KC. That is huge…
Stop with the 4 “and a half”. They are 5 games back in the loss column. And they have played more games than the Yankees.
This is per a poster on another board:
According to Kim Jones in her in-game spot on tonight’s YES broadcase, Pettitte was only throwing at about 75%, because his arm is out of shape after all the enforced inactivity. He says on a scale of one to ten, his groin is a ten, but his arm is about a four. A mid-September return would a best-case scenario
# Betsy August 27th, 2010 at 10:14 pm
Carl, who’s making excuses for AJ? I’m not………..
I’m saying Javy has an excuse for his dreadful starts. AJ does not.
Is it too late for a comeback?
important AB coming up, if Pena rolls another grounder to right side, he has the opportunity to break 500 ops for the year. pretty significant moment in yankee history coming up!
LGY, I agree.
Fially somebody did something. The Yanks haven’t done it offensively at all!
Matt
You can’t win all the time. If the Yankees lose in the first round then so what. I would be upset but I would move on. There is always next year and last time I checked this team has a great history and will eventually win it all again.
Carl, no he doesn’t…………….they’re both awful, though.
So what, Perlo?
At the time the moves were incredible jobs by Cashman. If we got the Burnett we saw in Toronto the previous few years and Wang was actually healthy instead of the shell of himself we saw then that rotation would have been better than this year’s was in the first half.
Remember how Joba was when he was a start in 2008? His ERA was under 3.00 in about 80 innings or so. That rotation had the potential to be very good and was hurt by some injuries and some inconsistency.
Pitching is the reason this team is 28 over. The pitching was outstanding the first few months. Ever since the Pitching took a step back this team has been a playing close to .500 ball. This years staring rotation with last years lineup would be on pace for 107+ wins. All you have to do is look at the Home/road splits to realize how amazing last years offense was. Last year Yankees had an amazing lineup from getting on base, to power, to timely hits.
To be fair javy gets taken out of the rotation .. How does aj not? Mitre deserves a start
Anyone that would have taken lowe over AJ is nuts.
SJ -
Moselely is starting because Mitre didn’t do well when he was put in to cover for Andy first. Now, that was one start and he is further removed now from his DL stint, so who knows? But you can’t really figure him for more than 3-4 innings. I think.
I would take a pitcher with a minimal arsenal, but a solid mental makeup than someone like AJ who has a great arm, but nothing between the ears.
Phil is going to be (or should be) skipped and the Yankees are not going to chuck the innings limits just because, by default, he’s their 2nd or 3rd best starter. So, this will all get more complicated – and not in a good way
You really have to wonder what Girardi was waiting for to take AJ out. As we have seen with him when it’s bad it’s bad and it never gets better. With Mitre in the bullpen and able to throw 100 pithes what in the world was he waiting for? Girardi has done a terrible job in those situations.
@Jeremy. If ur so nonchalant bout winning u prob shouldn’t be posting here. It’s for die hards.
By the way, if any of you want to experience true pain, come up here and root for the Bills with me.
Our big FA acquisition n his 320 obp.
If wang never go hurt the Yankees would be in a much better position right now. But the Yankees need to think about developing more starters for the rotation and adding sure guys like Cliff Lee instead of the A.J. Burnett’s and Javy’s of the world.
how did the jets do?
Straw, try rooting for the Bears, lol
U can’t skip Hughes. Not if u want to win. N to be honest no one knows his inn limit. All writers r guessing.
Id rather have a pitcher who throws strikes over A.J any day.
Jeremy, they’re trying to do that…..they may have too many kids for the rotation once AJ’s time is up.
It is a tribute to a 200 million $$$ payroll that team is still in the playoffs at this point. You can say whatever you want but w/out the injuries the Sox would most likely be ahead of NY.
Who gets the blame here? It is a bad rotation for 200 mill. CC and a bunch of mediocrity.
The bullpen has saved this team b/c the O is inconsistent and the starters by and large suck.
Can they hold onto a playoff spot?
“Pitching is the reason this team is 28 over. The pitching was outstanding the first few months. Ever since the Pitching took a step back this team has been a playing close to .500 ball. This years staring rotation with last years lineup would be on pace for 107+ wins. All you have to do is look at the Home/road splits to realize how amazing last years offense was. Last year Yankees had an amazing lineup from getting on base, to power, to timely hits”
..exactly, last years team had spunk were always in games til the end no matter win or lose. This team may have comeback wins, but lack fight and timely hitting. Just look at the averages.
At least the Bears have been to the playoffs this century. LOL.
Umps probably never make bad calls against Ozzie because they don’t want to hear his mouth. When that clown is quiet it makes it much easier for them.
Ace
I care about winning but this is not life and death it’s a game. Also like I said the Yankees are not going to win it every year and their not going to be the best every year.
Tough to score with 3 auto outs in lineup.
The Yankees care a lot more about Phil’s future and their own than they do about one season. He’s being skipped or his innings are being limited – that’s a fact. I would be exceedingly disappointed if, in a panic, the Yankees chose to toss their plan for hm out the window.
will ManRam be in a White Sox uniform by the end of this series?
@Jeremy. No offense but I would guess 99% here disagree with u. It is life n death.
Can we get rid of Cervelli? He has become a real liability.
Straw, that’s true……..but they are pretty much an embarrassment now. They’re glory days of the 1985 Bears are being celebrated – there’s nothing else to celebrate now, that’s for sure. It’s a shame too – the signal franchise of the NFL.
It is understanble why so many are down with the Yanks.
Still they have a much better chance of making the playoffs than Sox.
No doubt the offense is lacking, but they are short manned.
Once A-Rod and Berkman are back shortly, Posada can go back to catch and the offense will not have easy outs.
This kind of inconsistent play will continue may be for another week.
Hopefully, with the call ups pitchng also stabilizes.
I fully expect the team to stat taking off within a week.
They still have the best record in baseball along with Rays and have 5 game lead in the WC race.
@Betsy. Winning trumps any plan. How do u look 24 guys in eye n tell em ur shutting down ur 2 best sp?
Betsy
True ! It’s going to take some time. But their is plenty on the farm.
I’m not up on what is or is not good locker room conduct, but I wish that Jeter or Posada or Tex would call out AJ after the game, to the press – something along the lines of, “We’re tired of being so down before we even have a chance…” I don’t know what else is going to turn him around at this point; he just looks lost out there.
Someone above pointed out that he has put some good starts together – he clearly has the ability to do that. But it’s this feast-or-famine, all-or-nothing yo-yo that is so infuriating.
Either way, so far, he’s closer to a Pavano than I would’ve imagined. And he was at least injured…
Matt,
There was nothing incredible about A.J. signing in 12/08. A.J. got a max contract from a team that had placed itself in a disadvantagous position due to a lack of player development. Fair weather fans like you jumped on the name-recognition bandwagon without understanding the extreme risk associated with signing a 32 y/o incosistent flameballer for a guaranteed 5 years at top dollar.
It was akin to giving my goldcard to a trust-fund teenager entering university.
The Yanks Wont lose ground to the rays, can still win the series, and finish the road trip with a 3-3 record. Go back home and go 7-3 or 8-2 and we would have gone 10-6 or 11-5 over two+ weeks. Got to look at the big picture people.
Ace-
No, I think most here would disagree with your statement. If you think sports are life and death, you need a few life lessons.
Seven innings in and the Yanks have 5 hits, that’s right 5 hits!
Mark Teixeira, our multi-million dollar baby is 0 for 3. Here we are almost kissing Sept. and the guy still can’t get his avg. over .260. Home runs and rbi’s have been good, but his streakyness in that 3 hole has been a headache for this offense all season long.
I am not an Arod fan, but this offense needs him back … real soon.
Pepitone how can you not be an A-Rod fan?
Good thing these 5 era, journeyman pitchers don’t pitch in the play offs. The Yanks do a better job against the aces that throw 95 mph. They never hit the garbage pitchers that they should tattoo. I know they weren’t going to win the game but can they at least show some life and score 4-5 runs?? The offense has been very poor this year.
Here’s another one of my favorites in reference to the A.J. signing:
SJ44 December 12th, 2008 at 6:42 pm
CB,
I know a couple of guys on the Jays. They said he’s grown up a lot the past two years.
Changed his diet, changed his workout regimen, and really dedicated himself to the game.
Schilling had his “Come to Jesus” talk from Clemens that changed his career. For AJ, it was Doc Holliday who changed his career path.
I like the signing and I like what Cash is doing this off-season.
Ace
Please ! It’s not life and death. First of all we don’t even play this game. We are just people sitting on our butts at home and in stadiums watching grown men play a game on a field. I wouldn’t call that life and death. Also their are more important things in life. I love the Yankees but I’m not going to kill myself if they lose.
Kay called AJ’s performance subpar, but it’s actually par for AJ.
The “big picture” is that after today, the Yanks will be 15-15 in their last 30 games, against some pretty bad opposition. That just isn’t going to translate to a playoff spot.
“@Jeremy. If ur so nonchalant bout winning u prob shouldn’t be posting here. It’s for die hards.”
ahahahaha! 80% of the board is constantly giving up mid-game or waiting for the red sox to make a miracle comeback. die hards… that’s hilarious.
“Tough to score with 3 auto outs in lineup.”
Cervelli, Pena and Gardner all have hits tonight.
Ace, sorry, I completely disagree………I think that’s beyond shortsighted. Anyway, as Cash has said, innings limits go out the window in the post-season….
#Perlo – that’s a good quote. So much for SJ and his “insider” knowledge. Ha. What a joke.
Hey, a DP! I didn’t know we had any pitchers who still remembered how to induce one of those.
Jeremy you sound like an Angels fan… If they win, good, if not, oh well. Some of us care more than that. I don’t expect the Yankees to win the WS every year, but when they have been in first place most of the year they build up your expectations, so i expect them to be playing better than 500 lately . And knowing thry have a very tough schedule the last couple weeks has me worried that there coild be no playoffs this year if they don’t get back to playing well again soon.
Jeremy, in the meantime, the Yankees have to hope that Phil progresses like they hope.
# TheStraw August 27th, 2010 at 10:28 pm
Ace-
No, I think most here would disagree with your statement. If you think sports are life and death, you need a few life lessons.
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Ahmen.
Trish-
Are you still here? I think Ace has to win your award tonight.
Ace
If you think baseball and sports in general is life and death then you should talk to someone.
What in the world are you talking about, Perlo?
Burnett had thrown 165.2 IP and 221.1 IP the previous seasons, with ERA’s of 3.75 and 4.07 while facing the Yankees, Red Sox, and Rays. He had struck out 407 batters in those 388 innings and had allowed only 342 hits.
It was a great move, and what in the world are you talking about with “fair weather fan?”
YOU are the one who called his deal a “max contract.” There is no such thing in baseball, nice try. Compared to what similar pitchers were getting, that was a reasonable deal for a pitcher with his stuff and his proven performance.
Burnett last year had a 4.04 ERA, struck out 195 batters in 207 IP and allowed only 193 hits. The move was the right one, it’s just not working out RIGHT NOW.
Don’t criticize if you have no idea what you are talking about.
Must be stretching out Mitre to start. I hope.
To be fair, a lot of people thought AJ had taken a step forward in 2008.
The Yankees record is so deceiving. When you look at it you see a pretty dominant record, but that’s not the case for us die hard fans who see in between the lines that this team is treading water right now and at the wrong time.
Damn Perlo Matt just owned you
aj faces no consequences. he is owed 3 yrs at mega money and they will not skip him… they have no guts,……
cervelli has imploded… aj sucks, vazquez sucks also.
mo has not pitched in about a week again.
they have a 39 yr old catcher who is a handicap because he cannot catch as much as they need him to.
btw I think aj’s problem was the catcher…….I forgot aj’s problem was not having his blankie pitching coach…..
I forgot his problem is he SUCKS………….
It’s not life and death.
“And knowing thry have a very tough schedule the last couple weeks has me worried that there coild be no playoffs this year if they don’t get back to playing well again soon.”
If the Yankees don’t make the playoffs, yes, that would be a huge disappointment. I think Jeremy would care about that, as would all of us. But, I’m with Jeremy on the idea that it isn’t that big of a deal if the Yankees don’t win the World Series. I will be ecstatic if they do win again, but it will be tough to even get back there.
U guys are diehard bloggers looking posts from 2 years ago
BA
I care but you have to realize that the Yankees are not going to win every year and that it’s not the end of the world if they lose.
And if some of you are such die hard fans like you say you are then why do you trash the Yankees, give up on games and talk about how great the Sox are ?
AJ has a over 5 ERA.. again clowns he sucks. this has gone on for months………
Lackey is getting paid as much as Burnett and is putting up a 4.51 ERA this year, so put that in perspective. Who else were they going to sign in his place, Derek Lowe? The guy who had an ERA’s of 4.47 and 5.42 the last 2 years he was in the AL East? The guy who throws 88 mph in the NL West?
Use your head. Hindsight means nothing, it was the right move at the time. 5 years was too many, yes, but you figured he would be good value for at least 3 or 4 of them, and they needed him so they had to go the extra mile to get him.
Saying everything in a vacuum in hindsight does not make the rest of us “fair weather fans,” it makes you an idiot.
Is Threets Brandon’s guy or am I misremembering?
It might feel like life and death at times, but wow – let’s have some perspective. Somehow all of us have been able to pick up the pieces of our lives after Yankee losses……………
Sports are life and death.
# Carl August 27th, 2010 at 10:31 pm
Pepitone how can you not be an A-Rod fan?
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He’s an ego maniacal prima-donna, who generally wilts under pressure, and considers himself a “god.”
Other than that, he’s a terrific guy.
And if some of you are such die hard fans like you say you are then why do you trash the Yankees, give up on games and talk about how great the Sox are ?
This.
I have to agree with Matt on signing AJ.
All we need here is a 7-run homer.
Thank you Niblick. There is so much fertile fruit yet waiting to be plucked from the vine of the web.
To Tabbert:
Yes, it would be nice – except i don’t think they can go 7-3 or 8-2 even at home because they don’t have the starting pitching.
And by the way, to whomever pointed this out: the RBIs and HRs for Arod, Tex, etc. are great, and shows that they have hit with RISP. But the fact that so many of our starters are all hitting in the .260s or below will come back to haunt us eventually. These guys getting one hit per game isn’t going to win playoff games very often.
the Yanks will be 15-15 in their last 30 games
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Exactly. Since the all star break the Yanks haven’t played well at all. Besides CC being great and Hughes being ok the rotation is a disaster. With the offense you never know what you will get from day to day. And recently the offense has been more bad than good. They really need to get going AJ and Vazquez decent otherwise they won’t make it out of the 1st round of the play offs.
The A.J. Burnett move wa a weird move. You can understand that Cashman needed more pitching but he should have never given that extra year to Burnett. I’m just surprised that he has been healthy so far.
Say what u wAnt about aj… We got this guy for three more years!! Ugh
# Pepitone August 27th, 2010 at 10:37 pm
# Carl August 27th, 2010 at 10:31 pm
Pepitone how can you not be an A-Rod fan?
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He’s an ego maniacal prima-donna, who generally wilts under pressure, and considers himself a “god.”
Other than that, he’s a terrific guy.
You met him before?
The work AJ did in helping the Yankees win the World Series last year makes his contract worth it, despite how bad he’s been this season.
Now, if he goes on to be as bad or worse over the next 3 years of the contract? At that point, it will have been a bad signing. But, we can’t call him a failure just based on one season. Guys have bad seasons once in a while. Will he recover and do better next year and beyond? Don’t know yet. Nobody does.
Id rather be poor and ugly and have nothing in my life if my teams won. If I could guarantee Yankees World Series victories every year -which obviously I can’t – Id rather not live and let them just continue winning.
Ive learned that money cant buy happiness, but Yankees victories can!
AJ will eventually make a good reliever.
Pepitone-
Is a centaur a god, or just a mythical man-beast?
At least Derek is efficient.
It’s tough to see AJ not compete like this. I just don’t understand it.
At this point if there’s any veteran starter worth a darn who cleared waivers, Cashman has to be exploring it since the rotation is in a shambles.
And you can pollyanna it all you want but this rotation in shambles.
Phil is on innings limits and we need him to win the division. Andy isn’t ready to pitch. AJ and Javy are a mess and both on the verge of being in the bullpen.
CC, Phil and Mosely are the only thing holding the team together right now.
There will be tremendous pressure on Nova on Sunday now as well, but I hope he keeps the ball down and shows some of the moxie he had the other night.
Our starting pitching got us to 1st place and it’s now on the verge of abandoning us.
That said, I believe in this team and in the front office and I know they are not just going to sit there and watch the wheels come off like the Mets do in these kind of situations.
Don’t know what is out there that can help us, but don’t be surprised to see the team acquire a starter after the 31st to help pitch in Sept. even though they won’t be eligible for post season play.
I really don’t think people understand the mathematical significance of how far back the Red Sox are this late in the season.
People have been going on and on tonight about the Yankees being a .500 team lately.
Ok. Let’s say the Yankees play .500 baseball the rest of the way. They only win half their games the rest of the season.
That would put the Yankees at 95 wins.
To get to 95 wins, the Red Sox would have to win 21 of their final 33 games. The Red Sox would have to play .636 baseball.
The Red Sox have a .574 WP this season.
The Red Sox have a .550 WP since the ASB.
The Red Sox have been playing .531 baseball for 2 months.
That is the team that is still in this race and you are afraid of? You are going to make the argument that the even if the Yankees play .500 baseball the rest of the season, the Red Sox who have a .550 WP since the ASB, a 40 game stretch, will play .636 baseball over the next 33 games?
Centaur is not a ” god “
You figured the extra year for Burnett would not matter because you would get 3 or 4 good years out of him and just have to live with it at the end. Nobody could have predicted the way he would fall apart so quickly in the middle of this season. It seemed like for a while that he was on pace to have one of the better seasons of his career since he was mixing his pitches better early on.
He was good last year, and he pitched well for the most part in the playoffs. It’s not working now, but it was the right move at the time. You need power pitching to win in the playoffs, and as inconsistent as Burnett is, he showed that on any given night he can shut a team down. If they had signed someone like Lowe in his place you may not have gotten some of the kinds of starts you got out of AJ like in game 2 of the alcs, alds, and world series.
They don’t win those games he started if you get even a quality start. The Yankees needed power pitching to compliment sinkerballers like Pettitte and Wang, and they got those guys with the idea of winning in the playoffs, as opposed to doing well in the regular season but getting knocked out early.
Man, Michael Kay sounds just disgusted by tonights game…..I don’t blame him…..Clubhouse vibe maybe quite the same
CR9-
Unfortunately Ace will take your statement literally.
Rob B
Doesn’t your 2nd paragraph rebut your 1st?
They will buy him out or put him in the pen if he is no longer viable as a starter.
This team isn’t winning much when 2-4 go hitless. 7-8-9 r just too bad
Jeremy, they had to give it to him…………and we won a WS in large part because of him. If the Yankees can surround AJ with good pitching, then we can minimize his faults……………but who knows if they can? Even if we get Lee, with CC and Lee the rotation is top heavy. You can not just pen Phil in for great numbers next year – you hope he’ll be a solid pitcher. If he is, then that’s good…..but you still have either Andy (at his age, who knows what he’ll give us) and AJ or a ? AJ. I’d rather have balance throughout the rotation than a top heavy rotation with serious question marks.
Rich, for who? for the opposing team?
I hate Michael Kay – if he’s disgusted, too bad. I never listen to him anymore……..
It seems like A.J. doesn’t care or that he just can’t pitch. I think the guy just can’t pitch. He has only two pitches and he can’t control them which spells doom.
The guy who throws 88 mph in the NL West
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Moyer throws 88 mph and he beat the yankees, garcia tonight is dialing it up to 88 and he looked good, hell dallas braden throws 88 and he pitched a perfect game – against the rays no less… lily tomlin for the royals threw 88 and he beat the yankees a few weeks ago – should i continue? wakefield throws 66 and he has been more successful than aj burnett and his “flithy stuff”
sometimes it not how hard you throw but how smart you throw
Great job by mitre!!! Some positive
@lgy. Sox sweep rays n we get swept here. How’s that for ur stats of being so far back? Don’t fall in love with stats
I like this one:
Nick in SF December 12th, 2008 at 7:14 pm
Let’s not kid ourselves: this is a necessary signing for this season, as AJ will eat a lot of innings and win a chunk of games (though not as many as he should). I’m afraid he’s going to be a head case, though, and he’ll probably gin up some faux-catcher controversy that Girardi will let slide into a ‘real’ one just to placate his fragile pitcher. Still, I have faith that when the crucial moment arrives — say, game two of the World Series, for example — AJ will answer the bell. And that’s really all we’ll need from him. To win that crucial game. CC and Andy will take care of the rest.
2010 and beyond could be a problem, however.
A Yankee game wouldn’t be complete without a Jeter dp. I really hope Cashman forgets about feelings and performances from 10 years ago when he gives Jeter his new contract. He is dreadful.
What pitcher is going to slip all the way to the Yankees?
You met him before?
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Sure have …
the world, especially the celebrity “Paris Hilton” culture, is full of em.
I was in the Air National Guard with Kurt Russell; I know these guys pretty well.
theres something you rarely see – jeter gidp’ing
Betsy
If he’s traded…
Let’s Go Yankees!!!!
# Pepitone August 27th, 2010 at 10:45 pm
You met him before?
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Sure have …
the world, especially the celebrity “Paris Hilton” culture, is full of em.
I was in the Air National Guard with Kurt Russell; I know these guys pretty well.
How do you feel about Derek Jeter
FYI. They don’t win title 27 without AJ. Who cares about his contract? Will it make them not sign Lee??? Lol
As i said, I realize they won’t win every year. But my expectations are for them to make the playoffs THIS year because they have been in first much of the year. I just think they need to play better than 500 in the last month here (which might be tough based on the schedule and the state of the rotation).
If the yanks play 500 then the redsox need to 666, which I realize is better than they have played lately. But in my opinion their rotation is in much better shape than the yanks right now. So I am not as confident as some here, that’s all.
U want proof contracts mean nada to yanks? See Jeter in Nov.
Nick in SF December 12th, 2008 at 7:14 pm
Now THAT crystal ball was more than a paperweight.
Pena was amazing tonight. Made some awesome plays at 3rd and even scored a run. That’s about the only brightside to this game, also how effective Mitre was. CC pitches tomorrow so here is looking to a nice offensive explosion to back him up.
Maybe Girardi now realizes that he brought Mitre in too late.
shock, jeter hit into a DP. that never happens……
clowns picture this train wreck next year. a 37 yr old SS who is regressing quickly. a 40 yr old catcher…a 41 yr old closer who sooner or later will have to deal with father time..a 38 yr old lefty starter who has been thinking about retiring for about 4 years.
yep, let’s sign them all to 3 year extensions… shrewd move. and also the yanks cannot pay them less then this year else they would insult them and the yankee fan base would not like that……..
jeter is hitting 40+ points below his career avg. with much lower obp and slugging but the guy hits 1 or 2………..what is management watching???????????
BTW swishilicous is fading. the guy has only 70 + rbi’s and strikes out a ton……….he at best is a 280/25/85 rbi guy. nice #’s but nothing special especially for a corner outfielder.
Rich, I’ve always regarded you as a rational man so I’d like to respond. My position with A.J. is that he has always had undeniably great movement and velocity but accompanied by inconsistency. My point then was that in 2008 the Yanks “bought high” as he was coming off a career year and had literally painted themselves into a corner thru their lack of player development leaving only the costly FA market to fill in the gaps. His avg. fastball in 2008 was at 94.1 mph (4th fastest in MLB) and the only member of the top 12 who was on the wrong side of 30 y/o. The inference was that he was able to hold onto his velocity longer than most pitchers and that it was likely to drop 1-3 mph in the next season or two. If you think A.J. is inconsistent now, imagine what he will look like when he’s averaging 91-92 mph and still can’t find the zone (at $16.5 Mil/year).
LGY -
Sometimes logic and numbers have nothing to do with how a season plays out. Wild things have happened in history. So, a healthy respect for the Red Sox is not out of place here, especially because the rotation is not what it had been.
G Love,
I hope you’re right about something being done.
Aroldis Chapman just days away from being called up — and tonight he was clocked at 105 mph while striking out 3 in 9th in Class AAA.
Dayum
Derek Lowe is a sinkerballer.
Sinkerballers who throw 88 mph in the AL East are the kind that put up ERA’s of 4.50-5.00. The offenses are just too good for a guy to get away with it like that.
Lowe is not overpowering, and he would have been the wrong option. The Yankees needed the kind of pitching that wins playoff games, they already had good #3-#4 types that win you a division title. That’s why they needed Burnett.
Lowe may give you 200 innings, but they are going to be 200 mediocre innings.
Again, saying this in hindsight does not make it right. If they had signed Lowe in the offseason and let Burnett go, people would have been killing Cashman, and rightfully so. They may not have made it to the World Series with a rotation in which Lowe needed to be counted on to start a game 3.
With Joba mediocre and Wang out, they would have been in terrible shape with Lowe putting up a high 4′s ERA for them.
Ace,
That’s funny. Will somehow those wins not count in towards the stats? Will those wins not count?
We are talking about the same thing you dope.
A.J. is just a bad pitcher. The Yankees took a gamble and now they have to live with it. I just don’t want to see Burnett in the number 2 spot in the rotation anymore.
From Buster Olney
If sports are not life and death, then you’re not a real fan.
And I don’t mean actually living and dying. And I also dont mean “living and dying” with each game.
But, when the Yankees lose in the playoffs, or miss out on a franchise-changing player – like if we missed out on CC Sabathia – then any real fan should get sick to their stomachs daily and lose hair on their head.
If anyone had a smile on their face for the first 12 months after 2001 Game 7… – well, i think you can figure it out.
Positives:
Yankees without a doubt have one of the best Bullpens in the Majors
CC will be pitching tomorrow
we have home games coming up
5 more days until A.J pitches again
And Yankees have one of the Best minor league systems in baseball.
And stop citing stupid examples like one game of Moyer’s season.
If you put Moyer in the AL East for an entire season, he would put up a mid 5′s ERA. He’s garbage, he had a good game against the Yankees but that doesn’t mean he’s a good pitcher.
You need power pitching to win in this division, and it evens out over a season.
ed_price
Aroldis Chapman tonight hit 105 mph and “sat at” 103, with a 90-91 slider. Scout: “best fastball I have ever witnessed”
LGY……Nice point, however head to head games count as a 2 game swing….Don’t get too hung up on those equations
pat: what’s sad is that Pete Abe deleted that post for some silly reason, so I had to recreate it from memory.
Boy, I hate talking about AJ like this because he’s a really good guy………….but:
Rich, who’s going to take him off our hands?
Boy, I hate talking about AJ like this because he’s a really good guy………….but:
Rich, who’s going to take him off our hands?
Bravo, Nick.
“Sometimes logic and numbers have nothing to do with how a season plays out. Wild things have happened in history. So, a healthy respect for the Red Sox is not out of place here, especially because the rotation is not what it had been.”
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Doreen,
So we should throw logic out the window, because crazy things have happened in the past?
I feel like stuckey here, but I really do believe if this team was named anything else other than The Boston Red Sox we wouldn’t be having this discussion.
I don’t see why logic should play the prominent role in this discussion, unless there is something else going on here.
maybe the Yanks will get Lilly? i don’t think they should though
Wow, Nick in SF. You sure you didn’t just make that up now????
CC can only pitch one game around…………
*shouldn’t*
# Rich in NJ August 27th, 2010 at 10:42 pm
Rob B
Doesn’t your 2nd paragraph rebut your 1st?
They will buy him out or put him in the pen if he is no longer viable as a starter.
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Not really. Saying the World Series win makes his contract refers to right now. My second paragraph then goes on to say that it will only be an epic failure if AJ pitches the rest of it like he has been this season. Does anybody really believe he’ll pitch like this for the next 3 years? I don’t. So, what I stated in the first paragraph will probably continue to be the case. I was only giving a scenario in which AJ’s contract COULD be considered a failure.
I hope that makes sense.
Hopefully CC can beat Danks tomorrow and then the Yanks can win Nova’s game and take 2 of 3.
BA
The Yankees should make the playoffs. If they don’t it would be a big time failure. I just said if they make it and don’t win it all I won’t go crazy.
LGY -
Not at all. Just saying, “healthy respect” for a team not totally out of it.
LGY, the real discussion should be how mediocre/bad the Yankees have been. The Sox deserve real credit, but the Yankees (and Rays) are letting them hang around. The Rays have terrific pitching, though……….Yankees have CC
How do you feel about Derek Jeter
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Look, pal, you asked the question, I answered it.
You obviously didn’t like the answer.
Too bad, that’s your problem not mine.
Doreen,
Sorry, if I misread your comment. Going against alot of comments here and hard to keep straight.
Nick-
I believe you. Last time I didn’t you had pictures to prove me wrong.
Did you see my note about going to Vallejo and having a chili dog with Margie Sabathia?
Well, Im not concerned about the Red Sox, or at least I keep telling myself that…
but like I’ve been saying, the Red Sox of the last several years simply do not conform to probability and logic.
5 games is 5 games is 5 games is 5 games. Certainly not insurmountable or as impossible as some make it seem.
Hey, Coolstandings said we’re 100% to make the playoffs! LOL!
That’s how it always happens. The starting pitcher give up the game early and the relief does a better job as holding down the fort. Ex. Wednesday. Hughes struggles, vasquez pitches better than any of his last 4 starts. Hindsight is 20/20
You guys can make any excuse you want to make it seem as if we are a bad team. Do you realize that if we have all of these problems such as starting pitching, lineup, manager, etc.. that means EVERY OTHER TEAM IN BASEBALL HAS EVEN MORE PROBLEMS? Funny how that works huh?
Just to put this into perspective for some of you guys… the Phillies( the team that has been to the world series two years in a row) whom is a major threat to win it all this season just got swept in a four games series at home to the ASTROS while scoring a whopping 7 runs. Does that all of a sudden mean their lineup sucks, their manager sucks and they have no chance at winning it all? No, it simply means they had a bad series. You just have to put every loss behind you and continue to grind for all 162.
If you cant handle to ups and downs of a 162 game season then i suggest you find another sport to follow.
LGY -
I’m not “afraid” of the Red Sox. To me they are a generic 3rd place team that should have been out for good a while ago based on their injuries and shaky 3, 4, 5 in their rotation, but aren’t. They could be called the Schenectady Schooners for all I care.
I just want to see my Yankees playing better.
Yes, AJ stinks, I think it’s unanimous. But the reason the Yanks are in trouble is because Jeter’s OPS is .113 below his career average; and A-rod’s is .142 below his career average. Not to mention Tex and Grandy, who aren’t exactly up to par. 4 major offensive players all having seriously sub-par years. And Cervelli, who can’t hit his way out of a paper bag. Not good.
LGY it’s not the name of the team it’s the names of the guys in their rotation.
A good bullpen can’t do much when the starting pitchers put them in big holes every night.
The Red Sox had the best bullpen last year, but it didn’t mean much because their rotation was 2 deep.
Unless you plan on starting every game with a relief pitcher, you can’t take advantage of that unless your entire staff does its job.
Come on, let’s mount an 8 run rally and get Mariano in this game!
Perlo
This is explanation, not an excuse.
The Yankees sometimes operate based more on business than baseball reasons.
They decided that because they were opening a new mega-zillion dollar stadium and had missed the playoffs the preceding season, that they were going to do whatever it took to win the WS in 2009.
The least defensible move was signing AJ: very high risk/reward.
It worked for one season. It’s biting them in the butt now.
They have the bucks to fix it if they choose. Let’s see what happens.
As questionable as the AJ signing was, at least they didn’t give up a top prospect for him. That’s why I was against the Vazquez move from the day it was made.
LGY -
No problem. It’s slightly psycho in here tonight. Even I used “WTF.”
Yanks will win 100 games, clinch the Division and they’ll be 3 games up on Tampa when they do it…….This will be the last funk we’ll see in 2010
well the good news about aj, javy, nick johnson, chan ho park, no bench, and not winning the WS this year is that our boy cashman will be able to go on another november/december shopping spree and pick up some nice toys for next year – it’ll go something like this…
cliff lee? – how much you want? should i pay you a visit to your home in arkansas just so everyone can see what a great GM i am?
carl crawford? did you get the video of yankee stadium i sent you? you did great – how much money do you want to play here – and yes i’ll give you 6 years AND a no trade clause just to prove how much i want you in pinstripes
detroit gm dombrowski – you want to make a trade? sorry uncle hal says i’m not allowed to make trades anymore – but if you want to give me verlander for 300 million dollars i’m sure i can convince hal to open up the purse strings…afterall i am good at throwing money around..
pat: no, but I was in Vallejo today. I could’ve had a chili dog with Margie Sabathia?????
And there goes our 8 run rally…
Another hard hit ball that just goes right at someone.
Bad luck. Badl uck. Bad luck. Bad luck.
# BA August 27th, 2010 at 10:54 pm
LGY it’s not the name of the team it’s the names of the guys in their rotation.
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What names are those?
Tabbert-
I agree. But I do think they need to address the pitching rotation depth and the backup catcher situation. Perhaps they are trying to bide time until Sept 1 call ups.
# Pepitone August 27th, 2010 at 10:52 pm
How do you feel about Derek Jeter
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Look, pal, you asked the question, I answered it.
You obviously didn’t like the answer.
Too bad, that’s your problem not mine.
Just admit that you don’t like A-Rod because he dissed your boyfriend Jeter in Esquire.
“Not really. Saying the World Series win makes his contract refers to right now. My second paragraph then goes on to say that it will only be an epic failure if AJ pitches the rest of it like he has been this season. Does anybody really believe he’ll pitch like this for the next 3 years? I don’t.”
Rob
That’s where we differ and why I interpreted your post as I did. I think AJ can be this bad for three more years. His FB velo is down 1 mph this season. That reduces the margin for error for a pitcher that has little margin for error. If that trend continues, and it may given his age, he can get progressively worse unless he can make an adjustment. AJ has never been a pitcher that makes adjustments well.
I do think he can be a good reliever, albeit ridiculously highly paid.
Anybody who doesn’t like ARod aint a Yankees fan.
I’d hop on Alex’s centaur in a heartbeat!!!!!
Means little, but it must make Swish feel good.
oh wakeup me, another 9th inning failed comeback?
I’m tired of this
Wow, talk about a straight changeup.
time to watch a good movie!
Who wants to take wagers that the tying run gets to the plate this inning?
Nick
“While Sabathia-Lanier serves up giant-sized “CC dogs” drizzled with her son’s favorite – chili – at the Little League snack bar….”
http://www.nydailynews.com/spo.....z0xrkCnBqM
For al those talking about signing Lee, please see what he’s doing in Texas so far. He’s a disaster. doesn’t negate his entire career, but it is a red flag.
With 2 outs left the Yanks decide to wake up. It’s a little bit too late…
Or not.
Matt August 27th, 2010 at 10:49 pm
And stop citing stupid examples like one game of Moyer?s season.
If you put Moyer in the AL East for an entire season, he would put up a mid 5?s ERA. He?s garbage, he had a good game against the Yankees but that doesn?t mean he?s a good pitcher.
You need power pitching to win in this division, and it evens out over a season.
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moyer has pitched for 25 years – most of them in the AL – and most of them throwing 88mph – and he has been pretty successful….its not just one game its about 550 of them..
I partially agree Rich with one exception. Even the Yankees have limits on how many bad contracts they can take on. For every Javy that gets sent to the bullpen or Kei-Man in AAA, they have to pony up to fill the void left by those non-producers. The way I see it, they’re getting far below market production for the Javy, Jeter, A-Rod, A.J., Kei-Man, and to some degree even Jorge deals. That’s why I cringe when many on this blog clamor for another $100 million dollar deal in the form of 32 y/o Cliff Lee this offseason not to mention Carl Crawford.
Just think: what if AJ hadn’t allowed a run without giving up a hit in the 3rd? What would have happened in Joe had pulled him earlier in the 4th? Who knows? Fact is, Yankees lose another series opener. They seem to have done that a lot this year.
I think there are some Yankee fans who will never accept A-rod no matter what he does. It’s the stupid A-rod vs. Jeter thing and all of the dumb things a-rod did in the past.
I have no issue with A-rod.
Maybe it’s not too late. Or… Yes it is. We’ll get ‘em tomorrow. Just one game folks. Calm, Cool, Collected!
Go rip a few a-holes Joe. You better.
Thanks, pat. I hope I can make it there on a game day.
Not his team – his starter and his catcher mainly; and his RF trying too hard.
Pat M -
I hope you’re right. The calendar can’t turn fast enough.
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AJ and 4 runs should be enough to win…
The Yanks have now lost the first game of 8 out of their last 9 series.
So much for “winning each series”. Hard to do that when you consistently go down 0-1.
Just admit that you don’t like A-Rod because he dissed your boyfriend Jeter in Esquire.
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Oh, now I see …
Not only are you stupid, but you’re a jackass to boot.
Thanks for the warning.
why do the they always give us hope in the 9th just to let us down.
Nick
I’m sure she would be happy to don a Yankee hat for you. It could become the jewel of your collection.
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Joe should take Jeter by the ear and say “Stop hitting to double plays. You hear me?”
I hope CC’s back is ok. He has carried this team. Give him the ball and get out of his way. Take some lessons, Tin Man. You are the Anti-CC.
The post game should be a good one. AJ with another great performance and losing to the W.Sox worst pitcher. Once again they are asking CC to step up so getting swept isn’t left on a rookie’s shoulders. Danks and Floyd are good pitchers and have given the Yanks problems in the past. They better bring their A game for the next 2 games. The W.Sox have been absolutely awful the last 3 weeks and the Yanks need to win this series.
Perlo
You have to look at the life of the contracts, not one season. Jeter was worth his contract over the contractual period. It’s too early to tell on A-Rod.
Smaller commitments to Javy and Igawa don’t matter.
I think they could spend a $100m more a year and make a profit.
That’s why Hank’s quote that:
“We don’t make a lot of money because of revenue sharing, and we don’t shy away from paying salaries.”
Is so laughable.
Accrual of equity anyone?
Thestraw-
I think at this point we should think about skipping aj’s next outing and allow mitre to get a a chance. I see no reason for us to just send out javy and aj for the purpose of eating innings and hoping for something somewhat positive. We may as well give some of our other guys a chance to get some starts and hopefully we catch lighting in a bottle. Whats the worse that can happen?
As far as the catcher thing goes… there is not much we can do until the first. However, as much as its going to anger people i don’t see montero being the guy thats come up.
with berkman back, arod coming back shortly after, andy and marte and ace all coming back in mid september and all the call ups joe will have a lot more options and be able to try out a bunch of different things. Right now he has no cards to play though.
Hopefully Thames stays hot tomorrow vs Danks.
SJ I think that Mitre has shown he can at this moment in time out pitch either Javy or Burnett. I say it is time for him to take AJ’s next start. He can’t do much worse than whet we’ve been getting and get Rene Rivera from AA. Who cares if he can hit. He is apparently a very good defensive catcher. Cervelli has come undone.
# BA August 27th, 2010 at 11:09 pm
Hopefully Thames stays hot tomorrow vs Danks.
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Was he hot tonight ? I thought he didn’t touch one pitch off the hard throwing lefty !
Better hope Danks has an off night. He seems to only really hit the “softies” as someone else has stated.