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Yankees sticking with the current rotation

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When the Yankees left Toronto, and even when they arrived in Chicago, Joe Girardi left the state of the rotation in flux. He committed to nothing and said he would evaluate after the weekend.

Now that the weekend series is over, Girardi has made his decision.

“We’re going to stay on rotation, that’s what we’re going to do,” he said. “There were things I wanted to think about, and instead of giving you quick answers, I thought about them and we’re staying on rotation.”

That means Ivan Nova will stay in the rotation — “He’s going to make another start, I can tell you that,” Girardi said — and it also means A.J. Burnett will make his next scheduled start at home against Oakland.

“He’s going out Wednesday, and we need him to pitch well for us,” Girardi said.

I’ll have more on this in the actual postgame notes, but for now two real quick notes from the Yankees clubhouse:

1. Mark Teixeira said he knew as soon as he picked up a bat that he wouldn’t be able to play. His bruised hand didn’t feel much better today than it did yesterday, but he’s hopeful that he’ll be able to play tomorrow.

2. Lance Berkman came through his pregame running just fine and will begin a rehab assignment tomorrow in Trenton. He said he’s been told it will last two days, meaning he’ll be activated when rosters expand on Wednesday.

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228 Responses to “Yankees sticking with the current rotation”

  1. Joe from Long Island August 29th, 2010 at 6:43 pm

    1. Wonder if Berkman will be back before Tex.

    2. Wonder what went into Joe’s decision to stick with AJ.

  2. Pat M. August 29th, 2010 at 6:44 pm

    AJ staying put, little surprised, but at 16 million per I guess you pitch

  3. LGY August 29th, 2010 at 6:46 pm

    Cervelli had 3 hits all of August before today

  4. kd August 29th, 2010 at 6:46 pm

    berkman will be a bench threat for this team

  5. m August 29th, 2010 at 6:47 pm

    It’s the right decision. Not a a popular one, but the right one.

    But, for heaven’s sake, shorten that leash.

  6. Joe from Long Island August 29th, 2010 at 6:48 pm

    Pat M – I’m busy making dinner, what’s going on with the Dodgers?

  7. mick August 29th, 2010 at 6:50 pm

    Don’t think any Yankee fan hopes AJ fails. The only thing to worry about with AJ is his inconsistency. He may pitch well this start and then have a bad outing his next one.
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    Which is why a consistent Nova down the stretch could steal his ALDS start.

  8. SJ44 August 29th, 2010 at 6:51 pm

    If AJ can’t pitch well against Oakland, a team that can’t hit, that’s has to be it for him.

    You also have to protect AJ from AJ.

    If he begins imploding in the first inning again, have someone get hot sooner and get him out of there.

    You can’t afford giving away anymore games.

    It would be nice if AJ can get it together.

    If he can’t though, you can’t wait any longer.

    There’s a fine line between loyalty and stupidity in a pennant race.

  9. mick August 29th, 2010 at 6:54 pm

    AJ’s next start after Oak would be Balt., a team he owns.
    He just might figure it out now that Nova is breathing down his neck.

  10. Pat M. August 29th, 2010 at 6:55 pm

    Joe from Long Island, they’re now 6.5 games back in the WC with 31 to play….Also there’s 4 teams ahead of them….St. Joe’s postseason streak coming to an end

  11. Nick in SF August 29th, 2010 at 6:55 pm

    AJ vs. Integrity will be a must-see showdown!

  12. m August 29th, 2010 at 6:55 pm

    There’s an espn article on whether or not Shields is still “Big Game James”. I didn’t realize he’s already given up 29 homeruns on the season.

    With a little bit o’ Boston luck, we’ll have sole possession of first place. Hopefully we can start pulling away before a tough September schedule

  13. mick August 29th, 2010 at 6:56 pm

    I hope we don’t lose a game till Andy comes back and we have to decide who he replaces.

  14. Pat M. August 29th, 2010 at 6:59 pm

    Nick in SF…..Giants hanging on as the faithful go nuts at Pac Bell ( yeah I know )

  15. mick August 29th, 2010 at 7:00 pm

    I must have missed the big game Shields pitched.

  16. CB August 29th, 2010 at 7:00 pm

    “Mitchell’s a good young pitcher moving fast, but, I’m guessing that considering thise in front of him with be a bullpenner or trade meat. Biggest issue might be his ability to stay in the strike zone.”

    GB7-

    Mitchell is most likely going to get traded. He looks like a legit major league starter. Not for the yankees – but for someone.

    There are just so many quality arms. I think his trade value will be worth more than his value as a reliever for the yanks.

    By this time next season he’ll probably be ready to step into the rotation of many teams in baseball. Cost contained for 6 seasons – very valuable commodity

  17. Tar August 29th, 2010 at 7:00 pm

    “It’s the right decision. Not a a popular one, but the right one.

    But, for heaven’s sake, shorten that leash.”

    Exactly. AJ is the best of the rest. Hope for the best. But have a quick trigger.

  18. m August 29th, 2010 at 7:00 pm

    mick,

    We all did. :roll:

  19. mick August 29th, 2010 at 7:01 pm

    where does he come off having that nickname?

  20. Joe from Long Island August 29th, 2010 at 7:02 pm

    THanks, Pat M – I knew they were having problems, thought something in today’s game.

  21. mick August 29th, 2010 at 7:02 pm

    AJ vs. Integrity will be a must-see showdown!
    =============================
    The Perfect Vs. the Imperfect.

  22. Nick in SF August 29th, 2010 at 7:03 pm

    Pat M, I was almost throwing things and the flat screen in the undisclosed location where I’m watching this game when the Giagantes gave up the lead… good resilience to come back, and Wilson gives up the leadoff hit as I type… ugh, let’s not choke away this run line, boys.

    It’s Dog Day at the park. Woof.

  23. m August 29th, 2010 at 7:04 pm

    Shields hates the name.

    It comes from the fact that he’s from SoCal and either his favorite was the Lakers or his favorite basketball player was “Big Game” James Worthy.

    It was a thing that started in the minor leagues.

  24. Bo knows August 29th, 2010 at 7:04 pm

    There have been many Novas through the years but as CB said the organization has a number of these kids. Three starts by the B’s pitching in AA in uncharted territory due to the amount of innings. Take a look at their numbers in MILB for, the last three days. Not only quality but quantity. Good times

  25. 108 stitches August 29th, 2010 at 7:04 pm

    Better off to skip Burnett’s next start and have him throw a simulated game out of the bullpen to iron out all his flaws. If he throws balls in the dirt out in the bullpen, he’ll certainly throw them in a real game.

  26. GreenBeret7 August 29th, 2010 at 7:05 pm

    Mitchell’s night should be finished after 7 innings, 1 hit and 100 pitches. The only problem was 4 walks and 5 strikeouts

  27. Bo knows August 29th, 2010 at 7:06 pm

    Throw a choke chain on AJ – it would go with the tats.

  28. Andrew August 29th, 2010 at 7:06 pm

    Can we get a betting line on how many times Jon Miller refers to Shields as Big Game James tonight? I think you have to take the over, regardless.

  29. GreenBeret7 August 29th, 2010 at 7:07 pm

    CB, would you trade Mitchell for a couple of good young minor league bats or MLB bullpen help?

  30. Nick in SF August 29th, 2010 at 7:08 pm

    Very needed win there. Whew!

  31. m August 29th, 2010 at 7:10 pm

    Congrats, Nick.

    Personally, I’d prefer Philly not make it into the postseason. Will root for Gigantes.

  32. 86w183 August 29th, 2010 at 7:12 pm

    I’d love to see AJ throw Wednesday with a now breaking ball rule and force him to throw changes ups and focus on commanding the fastball. His curve ball used to be a hammer, now it’s a crutch.

    Delighted with the pitching today top to bottom with a plate umpire that called nothing at the knees.

    Wasn’t it bumknee trying to convince every earlier this week that Marcus Thames is a washed up talentless bum? Hello? he might be the best stick in the lineup right now.

    Just want tonight’s game to go 23 innings and end in a benches clearing brawl

  33. Nick in SF August 29th, 2010 at 7:12 pm

    Thanks, m. A loss today and I might have choked on my calimari tonight.

  34. Pat M. August 29th, 2010 at 7:12 pm

    Pads get spanked at home by The Phillies……It’s going to be a hot September on the Coast Nick in SF…

  35. blake August 29th, 2010 at 7:13 pm

    Girardi is loyal..have to give him that and much more patient than I would be….but i guess you have to figure that if there is an opportunity for AJ to get back on track then at home against the A’s is about as good as it gets. For AJ to improve would be a big lift and worth the risk I guess….

  36. randy l. August 29th, 2010 at 7:13 pm

    “Jesus….We’ll hear the end of this from Randy. His father gets an extension. Randy’s weekly allowance is secure.”

    “Nationals Extend Livan Hernandez”

    gb7-

    you gotta admit that i was going out on a limb a few years ago when i said the yankees should have picked him up as a fifth starter instead of going with hughes and kennedy.

    a lot of good posters called me a lot of bad names for me pushing livan, but he’s a consistently good bad pitcher.

    what i mean by that is that most good guys when they go bad, go from a 4.00 era right through to a 7.00 era or higher and right out of the game.

    livan was able to get in that 5.5 era range and pitch consistently there and stay right there. a team could count on him to give up 4 runs in 7 innings and have a chance to win the game.

    livan had that 5.5 era thing down. he could do it year in an year out. now that he’s gone so low this year and having this new contract which won’t make him hungry for a new contract, i’m nervous about his future.

    i think he does better i think when he has to pitch to put food on the table.

    the nats may have ruined him.

  37. Nick in SF August 29th, 2010 at 7:15 pm

    Livan will always be hungry, no worries. :(

  38. randy l. August 29th, 2010 at 7:20 pm

    “St. Joe’s postseason streak coming to an end”

    pat m-

    i had a vivid dream a few nights ago that in the seventh game of the world series the A’s had a walk off homer as dodger outfielders banged up against the wall trying to catch it. it was a crushing blow because the dodgers were way ahead in the series early on.

    so much for my psychic abilities.

  39. GreenBeret7 August 29th, 2010 at 7:21 pm

    randy l. August 29th, 2010 at 7:13 pm
    “Jesus….We’ll hear the end of this from Randy. His father gets an extension. Randy’s weekly allowance is secure.”

    “Nationals Extend Livan Hernandez”

    gb7-

    you gotta admit that i was going out on a limb a few years ago when i said the yankees should have picked him up as a fifth starter instead of going with hughes and kennedy.

    a lot of good posters called me a lot of bad names for me pushing livan, but he’s a consistently good bad pitcher.

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    LMAO. Randy, that’s not the ONLY reason people called you bad names. If I could have reached through the monitor, I would have strangled you.

    Anyway, how are you doing? I might be the only one that misses your smiling face on here. Pat M., doesn’t really like you. He just tolerates you because you’re so old.

  40. Tom in N.J. August 29th, 2010 at 7:21 pm

    Big Game James Worthy?

    Did Sheilds co-opt somebody elses nickname? :mad:

  41. m August 29th, 2010 at 7:22 pm

    Livan will be eating some of Strasberg’s innings next season. :)

  42. Pat M. August 29th, 2010 at 7:23 pm

    Randy I ( The Original Tin Cup )……Because of Livan Hernandez you have become a LoHud / Yankee Blog legend…….The boldest call of them all……Didn’t you catch a bullpens for him on Boyer’s club ?????

  43. LGY August 29th, 2010 at 7:23 pm

    Randy,

    What did you think of Cisco’s defense today? :lol:

  44. GreenBeret7 August 29th, 2010 at 7:24 pm

    m August 29th, 2010 at 7:22 pm
    Livan will be eating some of Strasberg’s innings next season.

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    Along with most of the post game spread.

  45. GreenBeret7 August 29th, 2010 at 7:26 pm

    Pat M. August 29th, 2010 at 7:23 pm
    Randy I ( The Original Tin Cup )……Because of Livan Hernandez you have become a LoHud / Yankee Blog legend…….The boldest call of them all……Didn’t you catch a bullpens for him on Boyer’s club ?????

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    He also caught Livan’s great grandfather just after the Spanish American War.

  46. Bronx Jeers August 29th, 2010 at 7:28 pm

    “Cali”-mari ?

    Is that some new west coast squid hybrid or something?

  47. Pat M. August 29th, 2010 at 7:29 pm

    Tin Cup…..I have a similar nightmarish dream, difference is that the participants were Gary Sheffield & Bubba Crosby, Game 5 2005 @ Angel Stadium……To this day when ever I catch a game there I always take a look at the San Diego Zoo Ad on the right / cf wall and pay a moment of silence……That play still is still in slo motion in my mind, as I watched the whole play unravel right in front of my eyes that night……Yanks would have whacked Chicago & St Louis had that ball been caught…..

  48. Pat M. August 29th, 2010 at 7:30 pm

    No GB, that would be you my friend

  49. randy l. August 29th, 2010 at 7:34 pm

    “Didn’t you catch a bullpens for him on Boyer’s club ?????”

    pat m-

    naw, he was too old to play in the senior league . they would have killed him in that league because their bats were too slow to be fooled by his slow stuff.

    lgy-
    i didn’t see the game. what did cervelli do?

  50. GreenBeret7 August 29th, 2010 at 7:35 pm

    Pat M. August 29th, 2010 at 7:30 pm
    No GB, that would be you my friend

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    I’m not that old. I caught Livan’s grandfater. Randy had the gout that year.

  51. Nick in SF August 29th, 2010 at 7:35 pm

    Great-grandfather??? That was Livan.

    Bronx Jeers, good catch. My Italian should be improving, not regressing…

    Don’t know if you saw the message last night, but I ate at the Tadich Grill while you were away. Cioppinno and a vodka Gibson. Both went down well.

  52. randy l. August 29th, 2010 at 7:37 pm

    ” If I could have reached through the monitor, I would have strangled you.”

    gb7

    precisely why my instincts told me to not get too close to the monitor.
    never underestimate a pissed off green beret.

  53. Yogi Mantle August 29th, 2010 at 7:38 pm

    Cervelli didn’t do all that great behind the plate today, but he was hitting well. It was good that he was able to throw out a runner, but he isn’t consistent with it.

    My wife asked me who I wanted to win tonight’s game between the Rays and the Saux, I really am torn on this. While I would like to see the Saux out of the race, I also want to see the Yankees gain on the Rays. Either way the Yankees pick up a game on one of them, and keep it even with the other. I can’t root for either team. This race is too tight and I don’t like hoping for match ups in the post season.

    If a gun where to my head I guess I would go with the Rays losing. Give Boston a sense of hope, then see them fail.

  54. GreenBeret7 August 29th, 2010 at 7:39 pm

    Cervelli hit well with a 4-4. Threw out a runner, but, also made a throw that looked like Randy’s hook on the 17th fairway. actually, even with catching the runner stealing, his defense was pretty forgettable.

  55. LGY August 29th, 2010 at 7:43 pm

    randy,

    I didn’t think you would be happy with one play in particular. Nova threw what looked to be a clear strike on 0-2 and Cervelli immediately popped up to throw the ball around the horn without waiting for the umpire to make the call.

    The umpire called it a ball.

  56. GreenBeret7 August 29th, 2010 at 7:43 pm

    Scranton with a 9th inning 5=1 lead and 1 out with runners on the corners and a full count against the guy that burned them with a homer, just called for a change-up and the hitter had no chance.

  57. GreenBeret7 August 29th, 2010 at 7:45 pm

    Scranton wins the Division.

  58. Pat M. August 29th, 2010 at 7:45 pm

    GB….Now how do know about hooks & slices ???? Orville Moody must have been in awe watching you with a golf club in your mitts…….Frightening thought ….Glad I’m on The Coast some 3,000 miles away….

  59. GreenBeret7 August 29th, 2010 at 7:46 pm

    randy l. August 29th, 2010 at 7:37 pm
    ” If I could have reached through the monitor, I would have strangled you.”

    gb7

    precisely why my instincts told me to not get too close to the monitor.
    never underestimate a pissed off green beret.

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    LMAO. Yeah, we didn’t start out too well.

  60. GreenBeret7 August 29th, 2010 at 7:48 pm

    Pat M. August 29th, 2010 at 7:45 pm
    GB….Now how do know about hooks & slices ???? Orville Moody must have been in awe watching you with a golf club in your mitts…….Frightening thought ….Glad I’m on The Coast some 3,000 miles away….

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    AWE? Orville wet his pants every time he saw me heading his way with golf clubs.

  61. Pat M. August 29th, 2010 at 7:48 pm

    When was the last time Trenton & Scranton had a below .500 sesaon ?????

  62. Betsy August 29th, 2010 at 7:49 pm

    If the Yankees intend for AJ to start in the playoffs, then they had to stick with him. I guess this means Phil will be skipped or Joe is giving everyone 6 days of rest again – so much for the “we’re not going with a a 6 man rotation”

  63. randy l. August 29th, 2010 at 7:51 pm

    ” Nova threw what looked to be a clear strike on 0-2 and Cervelli immediately popped up to throw the ball around the horn without waiting for the umpire to make the call.

    The umpire called it a ball.”

    lgy-

    yeah, that would be an example of the hyper-ness that bothered me when i first saw cervelli. it just seems very amateurish to me.

    but good he had 4 hits. he’s not as bad as some people now down on him paint him. he’s not going to be a starter on the yankees, but he’s proven he can play in the majors.
    whatever happens at the catcher position next year, i think some triple a time would help him out.

  64. blake August 29th, 2010 at 7:51 pm

    Jays shutting down Morrow for the rest of the season…that’s certainly good news for the Yanks.

  65. Pat M. August 29th, 2010 at 7:52 pm

    GB….If we can pull off the March trip to Tampa, I’m certain I’ll have to keep reminding SJ to keep our cart behind you on every one of your shots, even when you’re putting…..At least Randy will be safe……..Then again maybe the safest place will be in the fairway..

  66. LGY August 29th, 2010 at 7:54 pm

    That would be Wood not Nova which the Cervelli play happened on. My mistake.

  67. GreenBeret7 August 29th, 2010 at 7:55 pm

    Scranton has won their vision 4 straight years (as long as the Yanks have been there), 5 including a year with Phillie. Trenton had a losing season last year but winners in 5 out of 6 years, plus 2 losing seasons the 1st 2 years.

  68. GreenBeret7 August 29th, 2010 at 7:56 pm

    ***Division***

  69. GreenBeret7 August 29th, 2010 at 7:58 pm

    Pat M. August 29th, 2010 at 7:52 pm
    GB….If we can pull off the March trip to Tampa, I’m certain I’ll have to keep reminding SJ to keep our cart behind you on every one of your shots, even when you’re putting…..At least Randy will be safe……..Then again maybe the safest place will be in the fairway..

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    I don’t know about standing behind me, Pat. On front might be safer. Just make sure that he has insurance on auto glass.

  70. blake August 29th, 2010 at 7:59 pm

    Really tough to pull for the Sox but it benefits the Yankees more for Tampa to lose. Best case scenerio they play 20 innings and Longoria takes some position player for the Sox deep to end it.

  71. GreenBeret7 August 29th, 2010 at 8:00 pm

    ***In*** front might be safer

  72. Carl August 29th, 2010 at 8:00 pm

    Getting the Sox out of the way is the best thing. I want Tampa to win. We have 7 games with Tampa to decide the division.

  73. Joe from Long Island August 29th, 2010 at 8:01 pm

    blake – just saw on MLB Network that the Jays will shut Morrow down AFTER his Yanks start on Friday. Wouldn’t you know it? Any other team, and Cito would have him on vacation now.

    I’m with 86 – I’m rooting for a nice, long 15-16 inning affair tonight, with Tampa losing at the end. They are the closest competition, and the enemy of my enemy is my friend. That’s how I’m looking at it.

  74. Betsy August 29th, 2010 at 8:01 pm

    Carl, me too………

  75. blake August 29th, 2010 at 8:02 pm

    sorry I meant end it in 20 with Boston winning…see its so hard to come up with a scenerio where I’d like to see Boston win.

  76. Betsy August 29th, 2010 at 8:03 pm

    Blake, Morrow is pitching against the Yankees and then being shut down

  77. SJ44 August 29th, 2010 at 8:05 pm

    Randy,

    FYI…

    Tony is playing in the Arizona Fall League this Fall.

    Pat M and I are going to look to get together and catch a few games. The season runs from 10/12-11/20.

    Let me know if you can make it west and we will coordinate the plans.

  78. BD (Boston Dave) August 29th, 2010 at 8:05 pm

    Man was I berated and ridiculed for suggesting that Marcus Thames still deserved a chance to play.

    I can’t remember which geniuses it was this time, but around the All Star Break they told me I was insane and that Cashman had ruined the team once again.

    Lesson learned: Cashman kinda knows what he’s doing.

    (I was also told I was nuts for saying Clay Buccholz was actually really good at the ASB last season)

  79. GreenBeret7 August 29th, 2010 at 8:05 pm

    Pat, I must be honest and fair with you about what I’m saying about my golf game.

    It’s worse. The last time that I played, I did break 100…by the 5th hole. I’m no Billy Baroo

  80. blake August 29th, 2010 at 8:05 pm

    joe,

    I didn’t see that little detail but of course…should have known. Guess we’ll just have to send him home with a bad taste in his mouth for the winter…( I hope).

  81. Doreen August 29th, 2010 at 8:05 pm

    I haven’t posted much today for several reasons, but at any rate, I wanted to say CB, wasn’t it you who last season was saying the league is going to need to beware of the Yankees because they were going to be more and more self-sufficient (basically that’s what I took from what you said).

    If the development of these pitchers means that they don’t have to deal in the “iffier” side of free agency – the AJ’s who are talented but have big question marks – wow. That would be great.

    One thing about AJ though. Most everyone thought that the deal with AJ would be his health. He has stayed healthy. But now, his flaws can’t be attributed to health. Did his previous record health-wise mask the flaws in his overall make-up?

  82. Betsy August 29th, 2010 at 8:06 pm

    BD, I was ridiculed in ST for saying Thames was a professional hitter and not to care about his poor ST!

  83. Yogi Mantle August 29th, 2010 at 8:06 pm

    Randy, isn’t the problem with Cervelli this year, or at least a portion of it, due to the added playing time he is getting. As he plays more games it makes his errors and faults that much more difficult to overcome. His hitting had been southern bound for a while, which you could live with if it wasn’t coupled with poor defense behind the plate.

  84. SJ44 August 29th, 2010 at 8:08 pm

    There is an Amber Alert out for 57Yank after his all out assault on Thames last weekend.

    Hasn’t been around all week.

    “Shocking”.

    Morrow has been much better at home than on the road. Especially against the Yankees.

  85. Betsy August 29th, 2010 at 8:08 pm

    They’re going to have to trade some of these young pitchers, though I’ve no idea who…….IF Lee signs, you have CC and Lee. Eventually AJ is going to leave – that leaves 3 spots for all these kids. I wonder how much value you’d get for trading any one of the kids – not much; we’d just get back young players in return.

  86. Doreen August 29th, 2010 at 8:08 pm

    Joe from Long Island -

    Well, I certainly hope the Jays’ decision to keep Morrow going in order to face the Yankees backfires!!!

  87. m August 29th, 2010 at 8:09 pm

    What?! No game thread for the night cap?

    Sox are 6 back in the division. I’ll cheer for them to lose every non-Tampa game.

    8) standings.com has us at 94.4 and TB at 95.4 percent chance of making the playoffs. I’d like TB’s chances to go down.

  88. CR9 August 29th, 2010 at 8:10 pm

    Amber alert lol!

    Nice to hear Jon Miller refer to Daniel Nava as Danny Nava. I always appreciate hearing affection for players from fans of the team. Thanks Jon for that touching display of affection!

  89. jacksquat August 29th, 2010 at 8:11 pm

    I don’t understand why everyone wants the RS to beat the Rays. The RS have one foot in the grave, I want the other one in. Last two of three series of the season is against the RS, I want the chances of them meaning absolutely nothing to improve. Then the Yanks can rest players, set up the rotation, etc.

  90. GreenBeret7 August 29th, 2010 at 8:13 pm

    If Pettitte resigns and the Yanks do as expected, NYY has Pettitte, Sabathia, Lee Hughes and Burnett in the 2011 rotation with the best youngster in the bullpen. Pettitte most likely would retire after next year, opening up a spot for one of the new kids in 2012 and move two new kids into the pen.

  91. Carl August 29th, 2010 at 8:13 pm

    # Betsy August 29th, 2010 at 8:08 pm

    They’re going to have to trade some of these young pitchers, though I’ve no idea who…….IF Lee signs, you have CC and Lee. Eventually AJ is going to leave – that leaves 3 spots for all these kids. I wonder how much value you’d get for trading any one of the kids – not much; we’d just get back young players in return.

    Some may go to the pen. Some might get hurt. Nova though can be auditioning for another club. But who knows?

    It’s a great problem to have. You have to give Brian Cashman and his team a lot of credit. Just look at the call ups we had 2-3 years ago. They really filled the farm with some big time arms.

  92. blake August 29th, 2010 at 8:14 pm

    Because the Sox are 6 games out and the Yankees are tied with the Rays. With the September schedule you want every game up on Tampa you can get.

  93. randy l. August 29th, 2010 at 8:14 pm

    sj44-

    it’s pretty amazing how fast tony is progressing.
    keep me posted when you two are going to be out there.
    if i have some free time then that would be a nice trip.

  94. Doreen August 29th, 2010 at 8:15 pm

    I don’t know about anyone else, but I think it would be nice to have first place alone, at least for a day! :)

    Seriously, all I wanted out of today was for the Yankees to win, because in that way, they were assured of being in first place at the end of the day. They need to keep winning to be masters of their own destiny.

  95. Carl August 29th, 2010 at 8:16 pm

    # blake August 29th, 2010 at 8:14 pm

    Because the Sox are 6 games out and the Yankees are tied with the Rays. With the September schedule you want every game up on Tampa you can get.

    You have 7 games against Tampa to decide that. Kill Boston now. Kill Tampa later. You don’t want to have to worry about Boston and Tampa at the end of the season.

  96. Betsy August 29th, 2010 at 8:17 pm

    GB, maybe, but that would leave a AJ, a de-facto #5 and a rookie, also a #5, at the back end…………I don’t love that. Also, I’m not sure Andy re-signs this year.

    Carl, yes it is a great problem -nonetheless, it’s still an issue. The Yanks seem to love Nova; I don’t think he’s going anywhere

  97. m August 29th, 2010 at 8:18 pm

    Well, the best compromise possible happened so far. The Rays and Sox split the first 2. But if the Red Sox win, we gain on TB AND we’re still 6 up in the loss column on the Sox.

  98. Pat M. August 29th, 2010 at 8:19 pm

    Randy…..If we can pull off the Arizona game dates for Tony, bring your clubs as the ball just carries forever out on the desert……..GB, will you have clearence from Nurse Karloff / Youklis by then ???? I have tons of miles

  99. Doreen August 29th, 2010 at 8:19 pm

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  100. m August 29th, 2010 at 8:20 pm

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    Wondering who he was talking about, I looked to see who he was talking about.

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  101. Betsy August 29th, 2010 at 8:21 pm

    Whether Andy comes back or not, Lee is a must get.

  102. blake August 29th, 2010 at 8:21 pm

    Carl,
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  103. CR9 August 29th, 2010 at 8:21 pm

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  104. Pat M. August 29th, 2010 at 8:22 pm

    Doreen….I think Andy hangs them up after this season….This is the 2nd season in a row ( that I can remember ) that he’s had to be shut down for awhile….Only this time it’s a longer stint…….

  105. Crawdaddy August 29th, 2010 at 8:23 pm

    “Carl, yes it is a great problem -nonetheless, it’s still an issue. The Yanks seem to love Nova; I don’t think he’s going anywhere”

    It’s neither a problem nor an issue. It’s called being in a great spot from a position of strength which only gives Cashman more ammunition to make moves to improve the Yankees even moreso.

  106. CR9 August 29th, 2010 at 8:24 pm

    I agree Carl. We can worry about taking care of TB head to head. No need to keep them any closer than they are. To us or the Rays.

  107. randy l. August 29th, 2010 at 8:26 pm

    “Randy, isn’t the problem with Cervelli this year, or at least a portion of it, due to the added playing time he is getting.”

    yogimantle-

    before he had any serious playing time, i didn’t like his approach to the game . i realize he was not a college player , but he has that rah rah fast beat you see most college players have. pro players play to a slower beat because they do baseball all day long and do it almost every day for 8 months.

    a player can’t put out that kind of energy for long day in and day out. it’s right up there with not getting too high or too low. cervelli needs to calm down and one way to do it is to have him play a lot at triple a next year.

    he will get older and he’s not going to be a fist pumping throwing the ball all over the field as a 30 year old grizzled veteran. i just don’t see him being a yankee then.

    the extra playing time just exposed him as it does every player. they are what they are. it just takes time for small samples to become big samples.

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  110. Betsy August 29th, 2010 at 8:27 pm

    I don’t see how going with a 6 man rotation is doing the SP any favors; they are used to pitching on 4 days rest and now all of a sudden it’s 5?

  111. Doreen August 29th, 2010 at 8:27 pm

    Pat M -

    Right. He works so hard physically and mentally to be in top competitive shape, and his body just isn’t cooperating after so many “miles.” it’s got to be exhausting. Plus I think that when he does come back this season he is literally going to empty the tank to get this team to a championship.

  112. SJ44 August 29th, 2010 at 8:28 pm

    There is no such thing of having too much pitching or thinking it’s a problem.

    Mainly because, stuff always happens along the way.

    Randy,

    Will do.

    I think the Clemens Trial will play a role in Andy’s decision.

    Since he and his wife are going to be star witnesses in that case, if the trial date is during next season, I’d be shocked if Andy pitches again.

    That would be the kind of distraction to Andy and the team I believe he would want no part of.

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    Hi Erica -

    How’d you do? Have fun???

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  115. m August 29th, 2010 at 8:29 pm

    The more the Rays lose, the less critical the head to heads left with them will matter.

    Anyway, those two bloodying each other up is probably the best scenario for the Yankees. Although, there’s only 4 games left between the two, including this game.

  116. SJ44 August 29th, 2010 at 8:30 pm

    They aren’t going to a 6 man rotation.

    CC, AJ, Hughes, Moseley, and Nova are the five starters right now.

    Javy is still in the pen.

  117. GreenBeret7 August 29th, 2010 at 8:31 pm

    Pat M. August 29th, 2010 at 8:19 pm
    Randy…..If we can pull off the Arizona game dates for Tony, bring your clubs as the ball just carries forever out on the desert……..GB, will you have clearence from Nurse Karloff / Youklis by then ???? I have tons of miles

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    Pat, don’t tell Randy, but, I’ve sent him a gift. It’s coming in freight. He’ll get a call in the next couple of days to go to the railway yard to pick up his gift. I was thoughtful and drilled breathing holes and a large tub of water for her….it…I meant it.

  118. Bronx Jeers August 29th, 2010 at 8:31 pm

    If the Yanks sign Lee, I just don’t see how they have a spot for Andy anymore.

    I mean there will be a spot but with CC, Lee, Phil and AJ you really shouldn’t need a Pettitte type 5th starter.

  119. Betsy August 29th, 2010 at 8:32 pm

    SJ, that’s right…….thanks.

    Boy, that would stink if Roger’s trial was the reason for Andy retiring. If he wants to anyway, that’s one thing, but to be sort of forced to? That’s another.

  120. Erica in NY August 29th, 2010 at 8:32 pm

    new thread :arrow:
    Postgame notes

  121. Doreen August 29th, 2010 at 8:33 pm

    SJ44 -

    That too regarding Andy. Unfortunately.

  122. m August 29th, 2010 at 8:33 pm

    http://sports.espn.go.com/los-.....id=5510704

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  123. Betsy August 29th, 2010 at 8:33 pm

    Bronx, I would take Andy in that case over any rookie simply because having a rookie would be like having 2 #5 starters (along with AJ).

  124. GreenBeret7 August 29th, 2010 at 8:35 pm

    Doreen August 29th, 2010 at 8:19 pm
    GB7

    I wouldn’t be surprised in Andy retires after this season. But who knows? Maybe they don’t go as far as we all hope, and he feels like he needs to come back. I just think, why would he risk putting himself through this kind of ordeal again. He was sailing along – on the way to a 20-win season – and his groin betrays him. Not even his arm. His legs. So, I have my doubts about him coming back. Which is why I think the Yankees go all out for Lee. He’s a replacement lefty. Even if he’s not the totally unhittable Lee, but the now human-looking Lee.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    Doreen, it’s just my feeling, but, I think Pettitte returns…..if only because he won’t want to end this season like this, regardless of post season success. The groin could happen to anyone one. If I remember correctly, it happened when he landed wrong in a hole dug by Price, I believe.

  125. SJ44 August 29th, 2010 at 8:35 pm

    It’s the worst part of the Clemens trial

    Especially if Andy was planning on playing next year.

  126. Betsy August 29th, 2010 at 8:36 pm

    I was/am (very conflicted) a Roger fan……..but thanks a lot, Rog.

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