Game 132: Yankees vs. Athletics
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Gameday Thread on Aug 31, 2010 
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YANKEES (81-50)
Brett Gardner LF
Derek Jeter SS
Mark Teixeira 1B
Robinson Cano 2B
Nick Swisher RF
Jorge Posada C
Marcus Thames DH
Curtis Granderson CF
Ramiro Pena 3B
RHP Phil Hughes (15-6, 4.12)
Hughes vs. Athletics
ATHLETICS (65-65)
Coco Crisp CF
Daric Barton 1B
Kurt Suzuki C
Jack Cust DH
Kevin Kouzmanoff 3B
Mark Ellis 2B
Jeff Larish LF
Rajai Davis RF
Cliff Pennington SS
RHP Vin Mazzaro (6-6, 3.61)
Mazzaro vs. Yankees
TIME/TV: 7:05 p.m. / YES Network
UMPIRES: HP Doug Eddings, 1B Dana DeMuth, 2B CB Bucknor, 3B Kerwin Danley
WEATHER: Upper 80s through most of the game. Perfect blue sky overhead. Very light breeze.
MINOR LEAGUE NEWS: Eduardo Nunez, Jesus Montero and Jonathan Albaladejo were named to the International League postseason all-star team … Melky Mesa was named the Florida State League Player of the Year … Yankees going to the Arizona Fall League: George Kontos, Austin Romine, Craig Heyer, Corban Joseph and Brandon Laird. That’s a very good group.
GOOD TO GO: Brett Gardner is fifth in the majors with 37 stolen bases this season. He’s been caught once in his past 13 attempts. It’s the highest single-season total for a Yankee since Alfonso Soriano stole 41 in 2002. In his career, Gardner has an 85.5 percent success rate, fifth-highest among active players with at least 85 stolen base attempts.
ONE AWAY: With one more home run, Mark Teixeira will be the sixth Yankee to hit at least 30 home runs in each of his first two years with the team. The others: Ruth, Maris, Giambi, Rodriguez and Sheffield.
BERKMAN READY TO RETURN: Lance Berkman expects this to be his last rehab start. He told Mike Ashmore: “I’m going to play the game tonight, and if nothing unforeseen happens, I’ll head back tomorrow.”
UPDATE, 7:26 p.m.: Double steal for Gardner and Jeter, and Suzuki chose to go after Jeter at second rather than Gardner at third.
UPDATE, 7:33 p.m.: Bases-loaded GIDP for Cano. At least it’s a run. That’s a 1-0 Yankees lead.
UPDATE, 7:37 p.m.: Triple by Jorge Posada. I’ll say that again. Triple by Jorge Posada. It’s now 3-0 Yankees.
UPDATE, 8:06 p.m.: Facing bases-loaded with one out in the third, Hughes allowed a sac fly but ultimately limited the damage to just the one run. It’s still a Yankees lead, 3-1.
UPDATE, 8:15 p.m.: Right in front of the press box, a guy just boxed out a girl to catch a foul ball. The girl then punched him right in the gut.
UPDATE, 8:18 p.m.: Second deck for Nick Swisher. His 25th of the season, a two-run shot, a 5-1 Yankees lead.
UPDATE, 8:32 p.m.: Sac fly in the third inning, now an RBI ground out in the fourth. Hughes hasn’t been great, but he’s still leading 5-2 and needs one more inning to be eligible for the win. He’s at 84 pitches.
UPDATE, 8:35 p.m.: More high than far, Granderson just went deep on a 3-1 pitch to give the Yankees a 6-2 lead.
UPDATE, 8:43 p.m.: There goes Mark Teixeira, home run No. 30. Sixth Yankee all time to hit at least 30 in his first two seasons with the team. By the way, it’s 9-2.
UPDATE, 9:26 p.m.: Solo home run by Daric Barton off Chad Gaudin. Still a 9-3 Yankees lead with Hughes in line for his 16th win.
UPDATE, 9:55 p.m.: Brett Gardner and Austin Kearns hitting back-to-back. Is this the first time two Yankees have batted back-to-back with country music as their at-bat music?
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champ809 August 31st, 2010 at 6:50 pm
GB
I’d guarantee you that Ca$h would personally deliver those 3 players to the Dodgers for Kemp if given the chance.
Kemp has the potential to be an elite player in the league along the Cano, ARod, Texiera line whereas no body from the triumvirate of Granderson/Nova/Romine would be considered to profile as elite.
I happen to like all 3 players but they’d be wearing Dodger blue in a NY minute if they could get Kemp in ’stripes!
And please don’t confuse me with Chip or Kemp with the David DeJesus’ and Brad Hawpes’ of the baseball world.
lance will be a big addition to this team
Pitch well, young master, pitch well.
I just want to get a celebratory vanilla shake at In-n-Out tonight, Phil.
Please, please, please, let me get what I want.
Really surprised that they thought so highly of Craig Heyer.
Never realized just how bad Kemp is at stealing bases. Other than last season, he’s pretty much better off not attempting to steal at all.
Pat M. August 31st, 2010 at 6:56 pm
Also, isn’t the 1 year anniversary coming up for Chad & The Lads since taking over the LoHud ????
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It was more like “Escape From The Planet Of The Ape”.
# GreenBeret7 August 31st, 2010 at 7:02 pm
Pat M. August 31st, 2010 at 6:56 pm
Also, isn’t the 1 year anniversary coming up for Chad & The Lads since taking over the LoHud ????
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It was more like “Escape From The Planet Of The Ape”.
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LOL. And on that note, I’m outta here.
Can’t stand reading all the whining during game action.
Heyman reports that the Yankees claimed Lilly off waivers but the Dodgers pulled him back. oh well. Kuroda or Dave Bush perhaps?
GB…….You & Charlton Heston
Happy they pulled him back
I wonder how long it will take the whiners to start the complaints about the Yankees never coming from behind if that is the case tonight, completely forgetting how strong they came back from a 3-0 hole last night against the A’s best pitcher.
The amount of 2 strike fouls were the shocker. Every one was aware that there were a lot of them.
does it seem like hughes is having some of the issues joba had last year? A lot of high pitch ABs, and many foul balls, not getting the ball past the bat?
Gets the outs, but takes a lot of pitches to get there?
Not a criticism as much as an observation…
Four CB’s, a cutter and a changeup in his first 13 pitches.
does it seem like hughes is having some of the issues joba had last year? A lot of high pitch ABs, and many foul balls, not getting the ball past the bat?
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Well not quite, hitters hit a lot better off of Joba last year. And he walked twice as many guys.
i just mean with the long ABs
1-2 walk.
What’s interesting about that stat is Verlander, the leader, has 30 more than Hughes. That’s a lot.
Hughes reminds me of Verlander in the way they attack hitters.
the kid is second in the AL in wins and all everyone does is pick him apart. Now it’s all the two strike foul balls-he’ll learn how to read bats and get outs easily, it’s not a skill that can be taught in a classroom, it has to be learned on the mound. And when he does, he’ll be a Cy Young Award winner.
Hughes is completely different than Joba circa-2008, who constantly nibbled and never challenged hitters. Hughes challenges all of them, he’s just getting more foul balls than you might expect. That’s an interesting stat comparing him to Verlander, SJ
MG-
You’re a bit too sensitive. I haven’t seen anyone picking him apart.
nice dp
Nice DP.
He really needed that DP
what’s up with Hughes and the high pitch count per inning. Hopefully he can get quick outs in the next inning
double play, thats why tino and michael kay should talk about the high pitch count AFTER the inning
it’s not picking him apart. they are observations.
There are times when Michael Kay opens his my only to switch feet……Talking Head idiot at times
double play!!
HOHOHO, are you kidding me? Just read all the blog comments over the past couple of months…
Joba, realistically, had 4 pitches to work with, and just didn’t attack hitters. You give Hughes Joba’s slider and change and he’s the best pitcher in baseball.
Hughes is completely different than Joba circa-2008, who constantly nibbled and never challenged hitters.
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I think you mean Joba circa 2009. 2008 Joba blew everyone away and had them all swinging over his slider.
Even with a double play, still a twenty-two (22) pitch inning.
Lol.
Okay, MG, I don’t know why you would be bringing up comments over the past few months right now, I was assuming you were talking about the comments people were making at the moment, you know, in the game thread.
I have no desire to defend comments that I don’t have in front of me.
Worse than the 235+ two strike fouls is the 38 two out runs. That needs to get fixed
Ah, Joba 2008…. before that fateful night in Texas….
HOHOHO, it was as much about the Yankees broadcasters, in particular Michael Kay, repeating this alleged issue about all the foul balls and high pitch counts.
Hughes is a first year starter, all they have to do is check David Price’s stats from 2009 and they would see exactly the same thing. One year later, Price is a top of the rotation starter.
yay Brett…he has been hitting a lot recently….basically with Jeter behind him he needs to run within the first few pitches…because JETER is the pitchers best friend (the DP)
Gardner needs to run early and at least give Jeter some strikes to work with.
steal steal steal gritty gutty brett
come on!
Thats Gardner’s game right there. Nice job.
Good little cutter there by Hughes to get the DP.
MG-
You could look back at the posts and see that I am a staunch Hughes supporter. I think, all things considered, he’s had a fabulous year.
good job Gardner!!!
there you go!
Gardner making his presence felt early in this game. Now Jete’s job is to get him to third.
I wanna rock! ROCK!
Speed!
The Yankees are picking on Suzuki.
Phil Hughes is TERRIBLE. Already 1 walk, no strikeouts and how many foul balls!?!?!
Jeez send him back to AAA
coolness….at least Jeter still has the legs
oh oh, suzuki is going to have a long night
Double steal….nice!
Nice aggressiveness on the bases by both Gardy and Jeet.
niiiiiiiiiice
be aggressing and it helps the offense all over
# Patrick August 31st, 2010 at 7:25 pm
Phil Hughes is TERRIBLE. Already 1 walk, no strikeouts and how many foul balls!?!?!
Jeez send him back to AAA
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We could trade him. I’m sure Oliver Perez is available.
uh oh please be okay mark.
its nice to see somebody else get run on…because its pitiful when AJ is pitching against a running team…like TB
Girardi challenged his baserunners to compete at a high level tonight.
We could trade him. I’m sure Oliver Perez is available.
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Good idea, at least he has “Swing and Miss” stuff
where did he get hit?
Right now, there isn’t a pitcher on the planet that wants to pitch to Cano with the bases loaded.
I, like 99% of Yankee fans, love Tino Martinez, but he just doesn’t have that “Commentator Voice” If you know what I mean.
it could be late early for the A’s if Cano goes yard here…
Girardi challenged his baserunners to compete at a high level tonight.
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Well he better give Robbie the sac-fly sign or I’m going to be mad!
# Patrick August 31st, 2010 at 7:27 pm
We could trade him. I’m sure Oliver Perez is available.
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Good idea, at least he has “Swing and Miss” stuff
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Lefty too!
Don’t be surprised if we can’t even score one here.
wow that was a low strike
# Asd August 31st, 2010 at 7:27 pm
I, like 99% of Yankee fans, love Tino Martinez, but he just doesn’t have that “Commentator Voice” If you know what I mean.
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Haha, I’m loving him less with every game.
Is this the postitive game thread or the negative game thread?
It isn’t posted anywhere.
I mean, what he’s saying is fine, good points, he just has this voice thats… I just can’t explain it, but it isn’t good.
# Nick in SF August 31st, 2010 at 7:29 pm
Is this the postitive game thread or the negative game thread?
It isn’t posted anywhere.
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# Ruby Tuesday August 31st, 2010 at 7:27 pm
Don’t be surprised if we can’t even score one here.
I, like 99% of Yankee fans, love Tino Martinez, but he just doesn’t have that “Commentator Voice” If you know what I mean.
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and John Flaherty talking hitting is like isiah thomas talking coaching
Massaro doesn’t have a pitch to get Robbie out right here…
cano is making this guys work. i like it
Massaro playing with fire.
Yeah, but Flaherty has proven his worth in the booth, he’s allowed to say stuff.
I still love Tino…just not as an announcer. He has a weird nasal sounding voice…it almost sounds like he is speaking a foreign langauge when he talks
this guy
sorry for the typo
Tough break there.
Ruby Tuesday fail.
a rocket…bad luck… we already had him at 24 pitches.. would have been huge if they only recorded 1 out there.
that is kinda sad that after all that…a DP
Man that hurts. Cano just didn’t want to walk.
he hit it on the button but right at someone, that’s baseball…
An atom dp, tough break
he hit it hard. going to be a short day for vinny.
That was a bummer! 10 pitch at bat and hits into a DP.
Carl August 31st, 2010 at 7:32 pm
Man that hurts. Cano just didn’t want to walk
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This is nonsensical.
flaherty is the worst…the best being rizzuto, mercer and seaver
Cano ripped it. Great AB, tough result.
Yes. A huge second run!
Let’s see how they score this…
there ya go
how could Cano ‘not want to walk’? He didn’t chase a single pitch in that AB. The slider down and in that he fouled off was a really good pitch that would have gotten most hitters.
Force mistakes and take advantage of them
Good job Swish picking up Cano there..
A triple for Jorge! lol! LOL!
Well we’re not going to see that again.
hip hip
There better be an iso-cam replay to show Sado running all the way.
And Posada fills the triple column
# IIOIIOIIO August 31st, 2010 at 7:33 pm
Carl August 31st, 2010 at 7:32 pm
Man that hurts. Cano just didn’t want to walk
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This is nonsensical.
He swung at 3 pitches out of the zone.
Posada has not only been hot, but he’s been running really well lately. Fleet afoot as they say.
Jorgie with a triple to left field, that’s probably a career first
Not watching the game so I guess an error.. Thank you Ellis!
I can’t believe that Posada just got a triple….LMAO!!!!!!!!!!! WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! of course if the 3B caught the ball cleanly Posada would have been a dead duck…
Oh my god. Jorge just barely got that one. Other than an outfielder breaking a leg, that is the only triple you’ll ever see by Jorge.
Posada triple!!!!
posada with a triple!! kouzmanof totally missed that play
think jeter will make fun of him running so slowly?
Bad luck for Robbie, a little good fortune for Swish…. we’ll take it.
When Jorge is bangin triples off the LF wall then it could be a good night.
the 2-1 pitch to Cano was down and far inside.
not sure that one could say swisher “picked up Cano” because it’s not Cano did anything wrong.
Posada just hit a triple and andy was cracking up in the dugout. Im dying.
POPO
phil is getting the run support as usual. and a long rest after a long top 1.
Actually according to PitchFX, Robbie swung at 5 pitches out of the strikezone in that at-bat. Although to be fair, they were all close.
Doreen August 31st, 2010 at 7:36 pm
Posada has not only been hot, but he’s been running really well lately. Fleet afoot as they say.
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Before you know it, he’ll be a basestealer! LOL
So what’s our record when we score two or more runs in this first inning?
The flip side of Cano’s AB……
Ellis boots an easy grounder for the second run and Jorgie hits a triple for run #3.
Great call Ruby Tuesday/California.
Once again, you make a horses $&$ out of yourself on here.
Congratulations.
35 pitch first inning for Massaro.
yeah those pitches to cano were too close to take…
Thames just struck out on exactly the same pitch Cano fouled off, it is a good pitcher’s pitch. This isn’t a video game, there is a real pitcher on the mound doing his best to get the batter out.
MG August 31st, 2010 at 7:11 pm
I wonder how long it will take the whiners to start the complaints about the Yankees never coming from behind if that is the case tonight, completely forgetting how strong they came back from a 3-0 hole last night against the A’s best pitcher.
the Yankees haven’t had a lot of come back and dramatic wins this year, particularly compared to last year but what the whiners will completely overlook is that this is the product of improved starting pitching this year, particularly because most of this year the 2010 team has kept on pace with the 2009 team that won 103 games.
Carl-
Let me get this straight: swinging at 3 pitches that were borderline = Cano “doesn’t want to walk?” I’m going to go out on a limb here and say that it would be more accurate to say that, as the cleanup hitter with the bases loaded, he didn’t want to strike out. Cano was looking to drive the ball, and if the pitches were so far out of the zone that he walked, so be it.
He hit a rocket to second base, you’re going to criticize his strategy in that at bat?
Posada and Swish picked up Robbie. It’s all good.
Jesus, people. pitches close to the strike zone and you’re complaining after he rips a bulley to the 2nd baseman? He could stand there like Gardner has been doing and watching pitches down the middle
The dugout reaction was priceless……
If Phil can have a quick one here and get Massaro back out there then they could potentially knock him out early and burn up that A’s pen for the rest of the series. This is one of those games where you want to put the hammer down because it could benefit you later in the series.
Yankees offense is suddenly on fire again. These at bats recently have been outstanding.
Great call Ruby Tuesday/California.
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don’t forget ER/RDM.
ugh.
Ruby Tuesday August 31st, 2010 at 7:38 pm
So what’s our record when we score two or more runs in this first inning?
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I’m gonna go with a lot better than your record of correct predictions.
Ruby Tuesday August 31st, 2010 at 7:38 pm
So what’s our record when we score two or more runs in this first inning?
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the Yankees record is pretty good, your record is 0 for however many times you have posted in your life.
***Bullet***
John F is cracking me up over Posada’s triple (paraphrase)
“He rounds second and thinks about turning it up a gear. Oh no, don’t have another gear!”
# Patrick August 31st, 2010 at 7:37 pm
Actually according to PitchFX, Robbie swung at 5 pitches out of the strikezone in that at-bat. Although to be fair, they were all close.
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Exactly. And once he had two strikes, he HAD to swing at anything close. I give him a lot of credit for fouling so many off.
# GreenBeret7 August 31st, 2010 at 7:39 pm
Jesus, people. pitches close to the strike zone and you’re complaining after he rips a bulley to the 2nd baseman? He could stand there like Gardner has been doing and watching pitches down the middle
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I know we’re supposed to ignore these people, but sometimes it’s damn near impossible.
I might skip Phil’s next turn for Javy on Sunday.
He looks a little gassed.
# IIOIIOIIO August 31st, 2010 at 7:39 pm
Carl-
Let me get this straight: swinging at 3 pitches that were borderline = Cano “doesn’t want to walk?” I’m going to go out on a limb here and say that it would be more accurate to say that, as the cleanup hitter with the bases loaded, he didn’t want to strike out. Cano was looking to drive the ball, and if the pitches were so far out of the zone that he walked, so be it.
He hit a rocket to second base, you’re going to criticize his strategy in that at bat?
Yeah I am. Obviously Cano has been a lot better at not expanding the zone, but hes been doing it more lately this month. To me it looked like he didn’t want to walk, but hit a slam. It was actually 5 out of the zone. A couple weren’t close.
that looked like a strike to me
The last game that Posada tripled, I believe that he also stole at least one base.
Mick-
I don’t think that’s a bad idea. He’s really laboring lately, maybe a little rest would do him good.
john falhety had a total of 21 singles his entire career…i kid
What is with Yankees walking the first batter after the offense gives them a lead!
ball 4 to cust was a ball. high and a bit outside. fair call
Phil aint feelin it tonight.
Hughes isn’t especially sharp yet, tonight.
How long will Jorge’s DL stint be after that one?
Great ABs by Swish & Po to pick up Cano. How in the world can anyone have a single complaint about Cano this season?
He’s a top 3 2B in the MLB.
And as I watch Hughes, is it possible he’s just tired?
I’m not one to criticize him. I think what he’s achieved this season @ this point in his career is remarkable. If he was on any other team, ESPN and other sports networks would push him as the future ace.
But maybe the season has worn on him and he’s lost a bit, thus him tailing pitches and not putting guys away.
Carl-
I assume you had the same criticism lined up if that ball got through the infield instead of going for a DP?
What you’re doing is the definition of nitpicking.
the A’s didn’t exactly come to play tonight or last night…
lol that never happens…player kicks the ball
Rough inning for Ellis so far.
baseball rules, posada gets a put out….idiotic
Ellis has to learn, you’re not supposed to kick the ball on offense or defense.
I had World Cup fever too, but it’s over now.
If Nova keeps dealing I would love to see him get either Phil’s or AJ’s Alds start.
Interestingly enough, the Yankees are actually 27-10 when leading going into the second inning. That’s a .730 win percentage .
Hughes needs a rest. It’s as simple as that. He’s going through a rough patch right now with location. I’d rather have him fresh for the postseason than to see him get to innings limit in the reg. season. This is painful to watch. He’s still a young developing pitcher, and he’s tired. Not just physically, but mentally. Teams in tight pennant race and he’s the #2 without Pettitte out.
pat
Dugout reaction was fantastic!
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Only one pitch in Cano at-bat he probably should have taken; but it changes the at-bat.
Cabbage tossing goat puncher! Throw strikes!
# Nick in SF August 31st, 2010 at 7:45 pm
Ellis has to learn, you’re not supposed to kick the ball on offense or defense.
I had World Cup fever too, but it’s over now.
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Nightly webgem from Tex.
Jesus, people. pitches close to the strike zone and you’re complaining after he rips a bulley to the 2nd baseman? He could stand there like Gardner has been doing and watching pitches down the middle
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heck no, Robbie had to swing at all but MAYBE one of those pitches. Even the one furthest out of the zone could have been called by an ump with a big zone. I have no problem with Robbie’s at-bat!
Tex!
Hughes has had other starts we’re he’s been shaky early and settled in, it’s possible the same thing will happen the 2nd time through the order.
Let’s not get too crazy over Nova.
He’s not taking Hughes’ place in an ALDS start.
great job by tex!!!!!!!
Great play Teixeira!! What is wrong with this Larish guy. He’s up there swinging for home runs and rip shots. Cant wait to see this guy after this series is over. he’ll be back to scrubbing gum off the bottom of the dugout benches.
nice play Tex
If they sit down Phil for a spell, how many starts could he miss w/out losing his rhythm?
# IIOIIOIIO August 31st, 2010 at 7:45 pm
Carl-
I assume you had the same criticism lined up if that ball got through the infield instead of going for a DP?
What you’re doing is the definition of nitpicking.
Yeah I guess I am nitpicking, I will agree, but saying my comment was nonsensical? I don’t think so.
I don’t want people to think I hate Cano. I don’t.
Tex with the Cobra strangler grapple.
GB….Hughes looks a little sloppy in the lift position, almost as if his balance is off ever so little…..Could be fatigue
He’s not taking Hughes’ place in an ALDS start.
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But he could take AJ’s.
Nova has been really good so far but he’s pitched less than 20 MLB innings, it’s a little early to be thinking about him starting a game in the ALDS over an All Star who is 15-6.
Girardi’s getting pretty good at not really saying anything. He might have a shot at White House Press Secretary if he improves his vocabulary.
No, Hughes doesn’t need a rest.
He needs to pitch thru this, learn and grow.
That’s how you develop pitchers.
Phil threw 102 pitches in 3.2 innings last time out against Toronto. He’s got 40 now in 2 innings. He’s on pace for 5 innings tonight. He needs a 7-10 pitch inning to get back on track, but he is constantly down in the count 2-0, 2-1 to most the batters. Needs to be more economical.
Count of Dave Eiland and Phil having a pow-wow in the dugout with Jorgie joining in. Need to get 6 innings if possible.
What is with Grandy?
He is so inconsistent.
College football in two days!
Anyone have an early line on Presbyterian vs. Wake Forest?
How’s that new swing treating grandy??
# SJ44 August 31st, 2010 at 7:50 pm
No, Hughes doesn’t need a rest.
He needs to pitch thru this, learn and grow.
That’s how you develop pitchers.
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I’m not sure that skipping a start is going to radically change his long term growth.
He’s not taking AJ’s place either.
Javy would get that start if they sat AJ.
Massaro is throwing much better this inning and showing he has some skill.
What is with Grandy?
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Well that AB there was arguably only 1 strike thrown, and he took no swings.
Hughes’ inning limit dictates a rest.
U don’t sit Hughes. U font sit ur #2 starter in Sep. He had to learn how to pitch. This is it. He’s smart enough
# Ace August 31st, 2010 at 7:53 pm
U don’t sit Hughes. U font sit ur #2 starter in Sep. He had to learn how to pitch. This is it. He’s smart enough
What
Can’t afford to have him skip a start right now.
He’s the second best starting pitcher on this staff at the present time and they are in a heated pennant race.
He has to pitch.
Hughes needs a mental break if anything.. He’s still got good stuff, it’s just command. He’s getting into uncharted terrority soon innings. I could never understand how they determine how many “throws” a pitcher can have in a season. You can have a guy go 4 innings, but throw 100 pitches. Isn’t that really throwing like 8 innings though?
Oh, crap. The bats have taken the rest of the game off and Hughes has nothing.
The Javy/AJ tandem is a crapshoot, literally.
I crap my pants when either of them take the mound.
Nova, if he continues like he has, can definitely pitch over either of them,if they continue to crap out.
Hughes is dominating them.
The Ole Snooze and Poke.
Works every time.
# GreenBeret7 August 31st, 2010 at 7:55 pm
Oh, crap. The bats have taken the rest of the game off and Hughes has nothing.
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Game over.
SJ
If this race goes down to the wire Phil exceeds the limit?
GreenBeret7 August 31st, 2010 at 7:55 pm
Oh, crap. The bats have taken the rest of the game off and Hughes has nothing.
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Let’s not forget that Cano hits into two many DPs, Swisher can’t get the ball out of the infield with 2 outs and RISP, and Posada should have been able to make it all the way aroun the bases on that triple-Cervelli would have scored standing up.
Sharapova makes it through the first round….I booked her to win the Womens side……I have the field vs. Roger
Let’s not get too crazy over Nova.
He’s not taking Hughes’ place in an ALDS start.
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Haha are people seriously saying this?
If Andy comes back and pitches like he did in the first half the 4 starters would be Sabathia, Pettitte, Burnett and Hughes. If Burnett continues to implode and Vazquez pitches well, Javy takes A.J.’s spot. If Vazquez and A.J. pitch well down the stretch I think Hughes gets bounced to the pen and you go with the four veterans.
Hughes doesn’t need a mental break, though, there are a few posters that do.
wooo nice change up
I know as much as anyone that home field advantage is so much better to have, especially at Yankee Stadium, but don’t you think Hughes will be worn down by seasons end and not be effective? Or is this just a blip that he’ll work through? If the Yanks are to have a fresh Hughes as your #3 starter in the playoffs. I think i’d rather have that if it gets us another, back to back WS title.
Hughes mixing in a few change ups tonight.
Would have liked to see him throw it back to back though.
That was Jorge’s 10th career triple.
And his first, since 4/26/2008.
Unbelievable that he hit that curve
What if AJ and Javy continue to implode?
Eye of the tiger Phil…eye of the tiger!
that was a good breaking ball by Phil, the guy did a good job at the plate…
AJ is clearly luring the rest of the AL into a false sense of security and saving his best stuff for October.
He’s sneaky like that.
A big Boston ‘what-if’
If the 2010 Red Sox had been healthy, what does the AL East look like?
http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb.....id=5513507
According to the article, the good play that Boston has received from their replacement players has nearly negated the loss of their injured stars. And even if the Sox were healthy all year, they would still probably be 3 games back at this point.
pat m,
good to see another tennis fan on the board. i put money on nadal and took clijsters again.
what is up with the negative nancy talk…we’re up by 3 runs and Hughes is fine
MG August 31st, 2010 at 7:56 pm
GreenBeret7 August 31st, 2010 at 7:55 pm
Oh, crap. The bats have taken the rest of the game off and Hughes has nothing.
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Let’s not forget that Cano hits into two many DPs, Swisher can’t get the ball out of the infield with 2 outs and RISP, and Posada should have been able to make it all the way aroun the bases on that triple-Cervelli would have scored standing up.
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well, yeah, but those are the easy ones. Players with mental issues, players just mailing it in, players that are gutless. Those are the classics.
Maybe Phil should be limited to 5 innings per start the “rest” of the way.
Pat M, I’m looking forward to the Borg-Brian Gottfried round of 16 match this year…
If Andy comes back and pitches like he did in the first half the 4 starters would be Sabathia, Pettitte, Burnett and Hughes. If Burnett continues to implode and Vazquez pitches well, Javy takes A.J.’s spot. If Vazquez and A.J. pitch well down the stretch I think Hughes gets bounced to the pen and you go with the four veterans.
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This is probably accurate. Starts by Hughes and AJ/Vazquez would probably be handled very carefully, with each given a very short leash. The bullpen will have at least one starter backing up the 3rd and 4th in the playoff rotation and he would come in well before the game got out of hand.
This via Buster Olney’s blog: LOL @ the Red Sox apologist Bustah!
“Dan Johnson has this habit of ripping the guts out of the Boston Red Sox, and he did it again Saturday. Boston’s rotation is probably in the best shape of any of the AL East contenders right now, and if you were to reset the standings and start the season over today, the Red Sox probably would be the favorites. But Boston’s hole is deep, and the Red Sox have reached the point that they have to win just about every head-to-head game they play, so Saturday’s loss was big.”
http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb.....ney_buster
# mick August 31st, 2010 at 7:58 pm
What if AJ and Javy continue to implode?
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The world as we know it ceases to exist.
Buster Olney is kind of a moron when it comes to analysis. He seems to be good at breaking news but terrible otherwise
Javy’s stuff will not cut it in the playoffs.
Will be too little too late for whatever AJ and Javy do the rest of the season and Hughes’ stuff is much better for the playoffs.
Hughes, barring a meltdown by him is starting in the playoffs.
kd
tennis is my favorite sport along with futbol. was just watching the 86 wimbledon finals the other day, becker lendl
get the pen up, hughes has tanked , just like every yankees starters but cc
Wow, he gets behind every batter. Terrible.
Ridiculous job here by Hughes.
What is wrong w/ him and his ever climbing ERA/
I hope they limit his innings b/c he is bad.
What if AJ and Javy continue to implode?
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Rotation becomes Sabathia, Hughes, Pettitte, Burnett/Vazquez with the other backing the first one up. Take your chance that if one of the two stinks in their start, the other one can come in and stop the bleeding.
Let’s Go Hughes!!!!
Strange to see Phil behind hitters.
I’m sure many of you saw the obituary that Dan Shaughnessy wrote today for the Red Sox in the Boston Globe. 3-0 Orioles in 3rd. R.I.P!!!!!!!
Phil looks terrible……….he’s not long for this game.
I am starting to worry about Phil.
Is his FB too slow?
Has his CB been underused?
Should he throw more cutters?
Change speeds more?
good comment by Flaherty there-Hughes isn’t missing by much and the ump hasn’t given him the borderline outside strike to lefties.
What is Phil throwing tonight?
Minimal damage, though.
Can I look now?
“Cust can hit the ball out” As Kay tries to jinx us.
Good job by Phil, all things considered. Things could have been worse, but he minimized the damage.
The walks are piling up because he’s trying to throw too many different pitches.
I get the whole idea if getting him to use more of his pitches.
However, you also have to pitch to the scoreboard.
With a three run lead, I’d like to see him be in more attack mode rather than pitchability mode.
cr9,
tennis channel literally changed my life. watched the agassi/courier french open final the other day.
the things those guys could do with natural gut was amazing. new strings have changed the game
Check out Hughes strike zone plot on the right side of the plate.
I don’t think he could pay the ump to give him a strike over there.
http://www.brooksbaseball.net/....._type=.gif
Pretty fortunate there to escape with one run. Hopefully he finds it and gets back to throwing strikes. I like that he’s been mixing in more pitches in this outing but it looks like he just doesn’t have his best fastball or command today.
I’m thrilled the Yanks are winning, but this starting pitching is beyond shaky. Hughes is very fortunate to be up 3 – 1, considering he runs the count 3 -1 to nearly every hitter.
Less than half of the pitches are strikes. Not beating him to death with rockets, but, not finding spots with most of the pitches. Just needs to get 3 more uneventful innings and turn it over to the pen while the offense gets back to work.
I thought maybe he’d caught his second win with that 5 game stretch, but he’s really out there struggling. Forget innings- he left after 3 last time and threw enough pitches to have gotten through 7.
I agree with Patrick – if Javy and AJ turn things around, Phil goes back to the pen. If only one of them does, Phil is the #4 starter.
Joe told him to use more pitches, though…………….
Phil is being too fine tonight, it’s probably the overreaction to the way the Jays hit him the last time out. As bad as he seems to be (at least according to the bloggers) he’s allowed 1 run in 3 innings.
SJ,
This could also be a chance for Hughes to take some risks and work with some of his offspeed stuff with a 3 run lead against a weak hitting A’s team.
# mick August 31st, 2010 at 8:06 pm
I am starting to worry about Phil.
Is his FB too slow?
Has his CB been underused?
Should he throw more cutters?
Change speeds more?
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I can’t help but think it’s fatigue. It’s his first full season as a starter, these ups and downs are to be expected. If it weren’t for the failures of Burnett and Vazquez, Hughes’ struggles would be easily explained as growing pains.
Oh No Phil Hughes is TTTERRRRIBBLEE!! HE gave up 1 whole run! What a bust!
I don’t think Girardi is going to have a long leash with Hughes tonight. He is falling behind every batter and throwing way too many pitches per inning. At some point they have to be concerned about his arm since he was bad his last start and he is up there in innings.
Kay is “jinx” in human form.
Tangled Up in Phil.
Jeter tests the opposing SS once again.
With a three run lead, I’d like to see him be in more attack mode rather than pitchability mode.
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Maybe he thinks now is the time to try new things because the team has the lead? Or maybe his coaches told him he needs to mix it up some more.
Sounds like Kay is getting into counting the at bats mode with Jeter’s slump like he did with Arod’s run at 600. Fun.
I think they’d have to be concerned that he’s simply working way too hard; these are very stressful innings on him. If they want him fresh for the post-season, they might need to take him out early. Pushing Phil when he has nothing and he’s working hard isn’t going to help him and it will probably fatigue him.
# Nick in SF August 31st, 2010 at 8:10 pm
Tangled Up in Phil.
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Gross.
Isn’t this sort of a feel game for Hughes? He’s not pitching his usual game. He’s throwing more change-ups. So his command is gonna be off just a bit. He’s not missing by that much. Different umpire different calls.
Isn’t this sort of a feel game for Hughes? He’s not pitching his usual game. He’s throwing more change-ups. So his command is gonna be off just a bit. He’s not missing by that much. Different umpire different calls.
II0IIO
I was being facetious ,lol.
Showalter’s : 3
Red Sox : 0
I don’t know why people would think Hughes is not starting in the postseason at this point.
He is the one with the innings limit, but Javy got yanked from the rotation, and AJ’s spot in the rotation is in jeopardy as well.
Yet, the kid with the innings limit stays in the rotation.
Girardi trusts Hughes a lot more than Javy or AJ.
I think some of you probably need to come back in two years before commenting further on Hughes.
You scare too easy.
You guys wanted him to throw more CB’s and changeups. He’s doing that tonight.
When you are learning on the job, this is how it goes.
Personally, this should be a night he attacks the zone more with his fastball.
However, it’s clear tonight is a night they want him to throw more of his secondary pitches.
Nick — We always did feel the same, we just saw it from a different point of view . . .
If the Yankees were so happy with what Phil has given them, why would they, at this late stage, when they have to win, have told him to mix it up more? It was ok for them earlier in the season, but now it’s not? That’s asking a lot of Phil…………..
Simple Twist of Phil
Forgetaboutit!!!!!!!! Phil is fine. He will turn it up a notch in the cooler weather. He will get a second wind and be our clutch performer in the playoffs.
Looking at pitchfx tells me this umpire is not helping Phil at all tonight. Bad zone – basically the ump is removing the bottom right quadrant of the strike zone.
0 k’s…4 bb’s…1 hit…uneven outing so far
How about we see how the rest of the night goes?
If Hughes can give us 6 innings of 2 run ball on 110 pitches, I’ll happily take that in a playoff game.
Pitching out of trouble when you don’t have your best stuff or best command makes for a pitcher I’ll go to war with.
Kay is “jinx” in human form.
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How does this guy have all the jobs he has?
Does he work cheap?
kd
tennis channel is excellent. dont have much time to watch it, though. Shame about Serena being out for this Open. Djoko just came back to win today from a near defeat.
Kay has ears like a coy hyena.
mick August 31st, 2010 at 8:12 pm
II0IIO
I was being facetious ,lol
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Haha, you have to be a lot more obvious than that will all the crap thrown around here. You actually sounded reasonable and rational compared to most “serious” posts.
Jeter is hitting .243 from June 1 to his last AB
If Hughes had come to the ballpark with what he had against the Jays the other night…he’d probably be dominating the game right now. He’s just a little off with his command so far tonight….he may find it yet.
# Nick in SF August 31st, 2010 at 8:13 pm
Simple Twist of Phil
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Might be even more disturbing. You’re a regular pornographic Bob Dylan.
Jeter is hitting .243 from June 1 to his last AB
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#arbitraryendpoints
I think the key for Phil tonight is to not allow himself to get frustrated. He’s trying a new approach, apparently, and he’s not getting some close calls, apparently. So he’s got to rise above all of that. If he gets through this game, doing these things, he’ll make great strides going forward.
It would be nice if the Yankees score a couple more runs to cover him, and I know every win counts, but if the greater Phil good is served with a sacrificial ball/strike ration, so be it.
I think the key for Phil tonight is to not allow himself to get frustrated. He’s trying a new approach, apparently, and he’s not getting some close calls, apparently. So he’s got to rise above all of that. If he gets through this game, doing these things, he’ll make great strides going forward.
It would be nice if the Yankees score a couple more runs to cover him, and I know every win counts, but if the greater Phil good is served with a sacrificial ball/strike ration, so be it.
If I knew at the start of the season phil would have 15 wins I would have signed up for it… Young pitcher …..growing pains….. Got to deal with it..
Patrick, but Phil (or any pitcher) is not going to get pitches when he’s not around the plate…
If Nova continues to pitch like this down the stretch, he may be the key to solidifying the rotation. The guy is unfazed and I can actually see him handling pressure situations. Maybe the bullpen in the playoffs.
Pat M. August 31st, 2010 at 8:13 pm
0 k’s…4 bb’s…1 hit…uneven outing so far
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Good way to put it, Pat. It’s not nearly as bad as CC’s last start, there was no hand wringing about how he was tired during that one, was there?
Oh wait, it’s LoHud, there is handwringing about the lineup before it’s posted.
You’re a Big Phil Now
saw how bummed robbie was after that at bat….not his usual happy smile
Mick
It has been written Kay works for pez.
Betsy….Yanks need to put a wrinkle in the souting reports….Playoff teams have several advance scouts following clubs that will be playing in October……
Betsy,
That’s how you develop a pitcher. You put more on his plate.
He’s a big boy, he can handle it.
If they didn’t think he could, he wouldn’t be out there.
Patrick, but Phil (or any pitcher) is not going to get pitches when he’s not around the plate…
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Huh?
He is around the plate. Several strikes have been called balls thus far.
Swish!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Damn Swish
Swish crushed that ball.
Go Swish!!!
So much for the run the A’s scored…
Pez? I ate them as a kid.
Hughes has basically been right around the plate all night.
Swish loves beating up his old teams
From downtown…..Swish!
“…..Swish…. Oh oh… He’s the champion….”
Can anyone tell me what that’s a parody of?
# Captain Clutch August 31st, 2010 at 8:18 pm
Swish loves beating up his old teams
Not the Red Sox!
/CR9′d
# Nick in SF August 31st, 2010 at 8:16 pm
You’re a Big Phil Now
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Buckets of Phil? All Along Phil’s Tower? Or my personal favorite: Stuck Inside of Phil With the Memphis Blues Again?
Swiiiiiiissssssshhhhhhaaaaaaahhhhhh!!!!!!!!!
Doreen,
From your lips to Swisher’s ears! lol
Patrick, 4 walks is 4 walks………….that’s not good. Are all his pitches around the plate?
SJ, ok, I agree – but then we have to live with games like this. It’s good that he’s working in his other pitches – he’s just not got his good FB tonight.
Nick swisher = dangerous. Great eye and great power.
That HR was an example of random positive results?
“Phil (or any pitcher) is not going to get pitches when he’s not around the plate”
That’s a myth. Not true. And Phil has been around the plate much of tonight, but hasnt gotten the call. However, Im not complaining because it’s been an equal zone for both teams.
Betsy,
Phil is around the plate.
Apparently though the umpire has decided to cut off a corner of the strike zone though.
sj
fair point, i do have a double standard on hughes
That was 2 huge runs for Hughes and the Yanks
Knock,knock, knockin on Phil’s Door?
Patrick, 4 walks is 4 walks………….that’s not good. Are all his pitches around the plate?
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1 run is 1 run … whatever
I feel like if Phil pitched a perfect game you’d still complain
Pat M, I do think this is good for him in the long run. I doubt the new approach is why he’s struggling, though. I thought from ST on that a 2 pitch approach wasn’t going to work long-term for him.
Fling wet poo, Phil!!!
the book on Phil is he throws 1st pitch fastballs for strikes and pounds the zone. As Pat M, who knows this better than all of us, says, the scouts will have a book on him ready for the playoffs. This is the kind of a game, against a team that doesn’t hit well, to make changes in the game plan and give Phil some options and confidence in his secondary pitches. When he was fresh earlier in the year his fastball was enough, he’s lost a little over the season (virtually every pitcher other than CC goes through this) and the art of pitching requires adjustments.
LGY, I really don’t like to blame umpires for pitchers struggling with command……..
Swisher now at 80 RBIs on the season. If he stays hot, the Yankees will have 4 players with 100+ RBIs this season. Can’t imagine that’s happened too often in MLB history.
Carl
Not funny. Swisher never played with the Red Sox. So that doesnt make sense.
And there are plenty of former Red Sox that turn into Red Sox killers. i.e. Kotsay, 2010 Masterson are 2 examples.
Good response, Patrick – that has nothing to do with what we’re talking about.
UPDATE, 8:15 p.m.: Right in front of the press box, a guy just boxed out a girl to catch a foul ball. The girl then punched him right in the gut
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Chad-Could you tell if it was Trisha or Erica?
Bob Dylan is a terrible singer.
Incredible song writer but terrible singer
Hey guys,
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Anyone interested let me know!
Betsy I’m sorry but discussing this topic with you is repetitive and frustrating.
lol, they allowed manny to go, but they pulled back lilly instead of giving him to us. what a joke.
# Patrick August 31st, 2010 at 8:22 pm
Bob Dylan is a terrible singer.
Incredible song writer but terrible singer
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Nashville Skyline
Phil is phatigued, phace it.
Phive and phly.
Swisher is 5-6 on 3-0 pitches this year.
Prior to this year, he had only put two balls IN PLAY in his entire career on 3-0 pitches. This, according to the YES stat crew.
That’s an amazing stat.
Idiot Phil
Wow, Patrick, what an excellent analysis on Dylan. By the way, before his accident, he was a decent singer.
Patrick, ok……there’s nothing to talk about anyway.
Phil Hughes has thrown 4 balls to only one hitter so far this game.
This umpire is awful.
What do you think of Neil Young, Patrick?
looks like its a good thing that Swisher hit that 2-run homer
Another 0-2 hit. The location with his fastball is just not there. The A’s stink so you know his location is really off.
Phil is addicted to his fastball
Phil seems to have put the cutter on ice tonight…
Just got him a 4 run lead, and he’s right back out there giving up solid hits.
Ugliest Phil in the World.
SJ44 -
I didn’t even realize the timing!
Nice little cushion here.
Good point about Phil needing to at least show other pitches, from now to the playoffs, to give teams something to think about. The more he throws them, the more confidence he’ll get.
this definitely looks like a “working” game for Hughes. Not an ideal situation, but it’s something that’s got to be done. Like cleaning closets.
Hughes is just itching to give some runs back. Isn’t he?
please put this loser larish away ahead 0-2 in the count.
# mick August 31st, 2010 at 8:24 pm
What do you think of Neil Young, Patrick?
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Leonard Cohen?
You’re Gonna Make Me Lonesome When You Phil
No need for that wild pitch/passed ball. Should have been stopped. lazy
Phil seems to have put the cutter on ice tonight…
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That sounds like another pitch Phil could try.
A cutter on ice, nice!
Jorge has to block that ball.
Lazy play.
really posada…….pulling a Cervelli
Look around
Leaves are brown
and the sky
is a hazy shade of Phil-ter
Nick,
# of Latin American Yankee hats compared to European yank hats?
What’s it gotta be like a 25-1 ratio?
Dylan was never a singer. He has always been a musically inclined poet and story teller. Woody Guthrie was not a singer, either.
that should’ve been a passed ball. a good catcher blocks that
I hope Gaudin is ready. Hughes has beaten himself with every run given up.
you can’t keep Phil in here. He’s just not long and he’ll end up throwing 100 pitches in 4 innings. just like his last outing. I’d at least like him to get the win, but 5 innings is asking alot at this point.
Greta Jorge, way to give one back.
Great Jorge, way to give one back.
if it wasnt for Posada’s lazy play that would have been an inning ending DP
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8qE6WQmNus
Yankee Trader August 31st, 2010 at 8:21 pm
UPDATE, 8:15 p.m.: Right in front of the press box, a guy just boxed out a girl to catch a foul ball. The girl then punched him right in the gut
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Chad-Could you tell if it was Trisha or Erica?
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I don’t punch.
I kick
Damn iPad.
Jeez….
Sad-Eyed Phil of the Lowlands
Phil is not overpowering.
What is he?
I would take Hughes out here…
5 walks is a bit too much
Patrick August 31st, 2010 at 8:22 pm
Bob Dylan is a terrible singer.
Incredible song writer but terrible singer
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“Lay Lady Lay” says hello
Don’t take Hughes out now. Let him finish 5.
5 walks in 3.2 innings . . . not good
Well, that was Phil’s walk, not the umpire’s. That sequence of pitches and locations was absurd. He has to be able to retire this weak hitting team.
Hughes is having an “AJ” outing tonight.
I love how Posada fails to block balls and then always looks at the pitcher like damn you threw a wild pitch.
Bridge Over Troubled Philter
I will lay serge down.
# Tom in N.J. August 31st, 2010 at 8:28 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8qE6WQmNus
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Christmas in the Heart is funnier than most comedy albums, although it might ruin Christmas for those who aren’t really into Dylan.
New Morning.
Bronx Jeers: I suspect nothing will ever beat Taiwan 2007 as the global epicenter of Yankee hats.
Your ratio of Yankee hats in Latin America to Yankee hats in Europe sounds realistic and worthy of of further research.
That was Phil’s 2nd real walk this game.
when a pitcher is fatigued he usually misses high, Phil is missing low tonight, it most likely something mechanical that needs to be worked out.
The game is tedious, but it’s 5-2. Yankees.
When Jon Lester first came up, he was a 5 inning 100 pitches guy. Maybe Phil will become dominating like Lester in the near future.
He looks frustrated out there………..Per Kay, 10 walks in his last 2 games, 9 walks previous 8
This is Phil’s last inning I think, if not his last batter
Gameday and this umpire are not on the same page.
Phil Me Up Buttercup
Add Phil to the recently imploding list.
Meet Phil In the Morning
What a HUGE OUT!! Thanks COCO!
No way you take him out.
He has to learn how to work thru this.
It’s the only way you get better.
He’s also getting horribly squeezed tonight, which isn’t helping.
In the end, he got the third out.
That’s how you grind thru it.
# Erica in NY August 31st, 2010 at 8:29 pm
Patrick August 31st, 2010 at 8:22 pm
Bob Dylan is a terrible singer.
Incredible song writer but terrible singer
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“Lay Lady Lay” says hello
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All of Nashville Skyline and New Morning as well.
Folks, you have watched 161 pitches thrown by both sides, and we’re not even through 4 innings.
“Lay Lady Lay” says hello
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I was thinking the same thing!
more Erin vibes?
Hurricane.
Phil Let Me Follow You Down
It looks like Gaudin is ready, though…………….
Perhaps if Hughes had been closer than 4 feet from his target there wouldn’t have been a wild pitch.
Phil, Phil, and the Phil of Hearts
Bronx Jeers August 31st, 2010 at 8:33 pm
“Lay Lady Lay” says hello
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I was thinking the same thing!
more Erin vibes?
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LOL.. maybe.
He sings that one so well, you don’t even realize its him!
Hughes has hit a wall and is not an option for the playoffs. He needs to go back to the pen to freshen up and be of some value in the playoffs. He cannot start a playoff game, it would be a disaster. That said Pettitte is the most important Yankee at this point, he must get healthy for the Yankees to contend. CC and Andy are the Yankees one/two with the rest of the starters in a mess. As of today Nova has the liveest arm and God knows where AJ and Javy are going. Javy should return to the starting lineup and Hughes needs a break.
Last inning for Phil.
5 and fly!
Phil has given up 2 runs this game.
The 2nd run should not have even scored if not for Jorge’s terrible play.
If CC or Andy was pitching in this game and were battling like this, they are warriors and clutch.
Hughes is battling and limiting the damage, he is no longer trustworthy, won’t start in the postseason, is imploding, etc.
Makes sense.
he went one game recently without any K’s… Tonight only 1 so far.
Crisp did the Yankees a big favor there.
Phil is probably holding onto the ball too long, he’s missed with a bunch of pitches low and also inside to lefties. Add the borderline strikes he’s not getting and it leads to walks…
SJ44 August 31st, 2010 at 8:32 pm
No way you take him out.
He has to learn how to work thru this.
It’s the only way you get better.
He’s also getting horribly squeezed tonight, which isn’t helping.
In the end, he got the third out.
That’s how you grind thru it.
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Agreed. And he seems to be learning pretty well.
His command is off, yet he still hasn’t allowed a hit with RISP. He’s limiting the damage.
Unreal. I wouldn’t be surprised if he skips a start soon to rest. The last 2 games every inning is a highstress inning and that is going to wear him out.
Let Phil go out in the Phifth.
My least favorite song, maybe ever, is “Lay Lady Lay.” I HATE it. Worse than a lot of Neil Young stuff that I’ve at least come to appreciate. “LLL” is just grating on my nerves!!!!
In the Phil of the Night
He’s coming out for the fifth.
Girardi is going to look to get him the win and rightly so.
Phil is just not sharp and hasn’t been recently.
Thames’ clutch hitting has run it’s course. Bench him.
bankers hours, aka Art Fowler, has arrived!!!!
thanks for the brilliant discourse and sage advice, I’m sure the Yankees will pay attention.
People want Hughes to throw the curve + change.
He does and they complain about the results.
People want Hughes to develop.
Girardi leaves him out there to battle and learn and they complain.
Makes sense.
bankers hours August 31st, 2010 at 8:34 pm
Hughes has hit a wall and is not an option for the playoffs. He needs to go back to the pen to freshen up and be of some value in the playoffs. He cannot start a playoff game, it would be a disaster. That said Pettitte is the most important Yankee at this point, he must get healthy for the Yankees to contend. CC and Andy are the Yankees one/two with the rest of the starters in a mess. As of today Nova has the liveest arm and God knows where AJ and Javy are going. Javy should return to the starting lineup and Hughes needs a break
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I agree man. I was saying earlier that they should trade him for Oliver Perez if possible. It’s just getting ugly.
Curtis Corked that!
once again, the run by the A’s means nothing…
So grandy has a pulse
Man I don’t care what anyone says, Bob Dylan is a terrible singer.
Grandy tells Kay to shut up.
Someone was asking about Granderson’s swing earlier?
Grandy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! yea boi
Doreen August 31st, 2010 at 8:34 pm
My least favorite song, maybe ever, is “Lay Lady Lay.” I HATE it. Worse than a lot of Neil Young stuff that I’ve at least come to appreciate. “LLL” is just grating on my nerves!!!!
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Really?!? I love that song!
(There is more I can say about it, but I fear it would take this conversation in the wrong direction)
Man that Grandy is over his slump.
Great trade.
Captain Clutch, agreed………….these innings are a lot more stressful than even the innings he had in some of the games where he gave up a lot of runs. If the Yankees intend to start him, or even if he’s in the pen, in the playoffs, he needs to get refreshed. He looks exhausted out there and frustrated.
What was Kay just saying about Granderson seconds before he hit the HR?
Phling that Phil!!!
The grandy man can. (every so often…)
How’s that new swing treating grandy??
Blow Jays back on top!
Nice job Curtis.
If You See Phil, Say Hello
nice play by the 2B
LGY, that’s not fair. There’s a difference between complaining and commenting. Phil does not have his good FB or command tonight – what’s wrong with saying that?
Grandy!!!
Thanks to the Blue Jays who have sat their players against the Rays and will play them against us.
Escobar due out until Friday.
Wells sat out yesterday. Overbay has concussion symptoms, and will magically no longer have them on Friday. And Morrow will make his final start of the year on Friday versus us before the Jays shut him down.
We all know what the Jays tried to do this year – whether they succeeded or failed, we will all know after the final game of the regular season.
Dylan may have sounded like a drunken interlooper on his Christmas album, but I liked it.
It Take a Phil to Laugh, It Takes A Train to Cry
He’s not exhausted. If he was, his stuff would be decreasing and it isn’t.
The overanalysis of this kid has reached ridiculous proportions.
Toronto comes alive in the 6th inning.
The Grandyman can!
Granderson theft auto!
Hurricane is oen of the best songs I’ve EVER heard!
Hard to believe the same guy wrote/sang LLL.
Sure, I’ll trade a 15 game winner for Oliver Perez, who might actually have worse control than Phil. You guys are a little too panicky.
Hi, I’ve not had much to contribute tonight (I know, you’re all so disappointed), but with all this chatter about Phil, Curtis Granderson, Swish, Jeter, and their various streaks – They’re not robots. If they play long enough, they’ll come close to what they’re capable of. But, they will have up and downs.
I know this is not a revolutionary thought, but I think it’s worthwhile to remember once in a while.
i see double steal in the future
We are all Philling in for Matt tonight.
drinking game. john flaherty and “good extension”
Betsy, how can you determine he’s ‘exhausted’ out there? He’s throwing 93-94 what do you want, 99?
Add ons are so cool. I don’t care what you say, I like Granderson. He’s a cool cat. Jays 6-3
Shelter From the Phil
We’re talking about the starting pitcher tonight; if AJ was pitching, we’d be talking about AJ………..
Good Lord, Mazzaro is making Phil look downright economical.
Kay open-mouth kisses Ginger Frenchmen.
MG, yeah – because I said that.
Granderson is one of the hottest/cutest guys I have ever seen. Ever! Grandy and Thamesie should both consider modeling!
Haha did anyone hear what O’neill said after the errant throw to first by the A’s SS?
“…makes you take Derek Jeter a little bit for granted.”
Sorry Paul, and no offense to Jeter, but he wouldn’t have even gotten his glove on that ball, nevermind throw it to first.
Booof Bonzer, great name.
“Hughes is having an “AJ” outing tonight.”
No he isn’t. The A’s have 3 hits and Hughes has been around the plate the whole game. His command is off but he’s not missing by much on a lot of these pitches. He’s not pitching well but its nothing like that.
Granderson crushed that ball.
poor Jeter can’t catch a break
Everytime Phil Hughes goes out there is a learning experience.
With that comes ups and downs.
You gotta be able to handle all situations.
That’s how you grow as a pitcher and that’s what he is doing.
TheStraw August 31st, 2010 at 8:39 pm
Sure, I’ll trade a 15 game winner for Oliver Perez, who might actually have worse control than Phil. You guys are a little too panicky
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Please. Please, please, please, please tell me you didn’t take that seriously. Please.
If you did, your response was much too kind. I wouldn’t trade a sack of balls for Perez.
Visions of Johanna is my favorite Dylan song…
come on jeter give them a chance to steal first. he’s like i bet swing at the first pitch or else i won’t hit into my patented double play. jk
Don’t Phil Twice, Its Alright
come on jeter give them a chance to steal first. he’s like i better swing at the first pitch or else i won’t hit into my patented double play. jk
O’Neill??
JoeyA August 31st, 2010 at 8:40 pm
Haha did anyone hear what O’neill said after the errant throw to first by the A’s SS?
“…makes you take Derek Jeter a little bit for granted.”
Sorry Paul, and no offense to Jeter, but he wouldn’t have even gotten his glove on that ball, nevermind throw it to first.
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Your first problem is that Paul O’Neill isn’t announcing this game
the nice thing about this game is that phil didn’t implode. he clearly doesn’t have his best stuff, but he’s only given up two runs. he’s kept his team in the game. future ace folks
It’s Alright Phil (I’m Only Bleeding)
And… as previously stated….
Buckets of Phil
Philin’ the storm out
Betsy, you said he ‘looks exhausted’ out there. He’s no doubt a little tired from throwing 80 pitches in 4 innings but ‘exhausted’? No way, he’s probably a little frustrated from missing so many pitches and getting behind in counts. If I’m on the mound in the 5th inning I just throw fastball strikes and see if I can get some easy outs, they are up 4 runs.
Oh thank god you were kidding. I save the vitriol for people who deserve it. Like Matt.
Whoohooooooooooooo!
I would take some of David Ortiz’s magic needles for Ollie Perez.
CYA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SEXY TEXY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tom in N.J. August 31st, 2010 at 8:38 pm
Dylan may have sounded like a drunken interlooper on his Christmas album, but I liked it
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It has become my Christmas album of choice, much to my family’s chagrin.
Yup saw that coming by TEX!!!!! WHO ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Okay -
Can we keep Phil in now????
Woohoo go Tex!!!
Win one for the Phil.
This team is pounding homeruns left and right!
I think it’s safe for Phil to go out another inning. Even if he gives up a couple of runs. Let him finish it so he can be in line for the win.
Tex crushed that ball more.
Txt MSG!
First Grandy, now Teix!!!! Wow!!! He smoked it!!!!
I hope you all enjoyed my presentation of “Phil on the Tracks” — or was that “Blood on the Phil”?
Gotta leave Phil in!!!!
Yankees offense seems like its doing kind of well.
Hughes may not have “it” tonight, but even though it will be a short outing, he isn’t giving up runs like candy.
Maybe the 2 days off helped recharge Tex.
I wish my stock portfolio would rise as quickly as the Oakland staff’s era has …..Granted these are the NY Yankees, but it’s still noteworthy
If Tex made an out there, I was fully prepared for a Matt dissertation on how the offense was squandering opportunities.
5 innings for Phil and the W.
Same here, IIO. My GF is a Dylan fan too, so all is well….
Bye and Bye Mazzaro
Anyone feeling better about the offense yet?
right now in the dugout Phil and Jorge are telling each other, ’1st pitch strikes, don’t be too fine out there, you have 7 runs to play with’.
MG, that’s fair. I didn’t mean he was on the verge of collapse – just tired and, yes, frustrated).
I preferred Blonde on Phil
Tonights the night we take over. Do you believe the Jays 8-3.
Pay the Texman!!!
So much for Tex’s thumb, lol
maybe Jeter needs a bruised thumb to get him out of his slump
goodbye Ruby Tuesday
who could hang a name on you?
when you change it every new day
still we’re not gonna miss you…
Pat M. August 31st, 2010 at 8:44 pm
I wish my stock portfolio would rise as quickly as the Oakland staff’s era has …..Granted these are the NY Yankees, but it’s still noteworthy
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The world is a cruel place when they leave their cushy ballpark
Phil and Phive, that’s no Jive.
This is how our lineup would be based on hotness
Jeter Grandy Thamesie Cano Pena Swishy Texy Gardy Jorgie
I’d say Tex is taking the team on his back and carrying down to the Pennant. If Arod comes back Sunday and Tex is still hot. This team could go on a roll.
Thanks Toronto for coming back on Rays. This would be great to have some breathing room
Long Distance Operator Tex
Maybe it’s good luck when these young pitchers from NJ pitch in the stadium infront of their friends. Mazzaro and now Porcello.
Tom in N.J. August 31st, 2010 at 8:45 pm
Same here, IIO. My GF is a Dylan fan too, so all is well…
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My girlfriend actually loves Dylan, but she simply will not accept Bob Dylan singing Christmas carols in Latin as acceptable gift opening fare. 5 or 6 Christmases and she ought to come around.
Bonser? That’s weird. How did he get on the A’s? He was Epstein’s genius signing.
Keep ejaculating those balls over the wall Yanks!!!!
Here comes the Boof….
I think Matt has his posts typed out in advance – boilerplate language, that kind of thing. He probably has them sorted by type of rant: bad pitching, bad offense, bad managing, team not trying, etc…
# CR9 August 31st, 2010 at 8:46 pm
This is how our lineup would be based on hotness
Jeter Grandy Thamesie Cano Pena Swishy Texy Gardy Jorgie
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Awww, poor Jorge. It’s the ears, isn’t it?
You know who must be exhausted?
Jeff Niemann.
Got pounded for 7 runs in 5 innings.
Guess the Rays pitching is not invincible.
HOME SWEET HOME. The Bronx and first place.
I’m sorry, but I’m missing all these “Phil” things in what I guess are song titles? Not getting it.
Let’s not get too excited about Tex. If memory serves, I’m pretty sure Jeter passed the torch to ARod, not Tex.
This team is a completely different offensive team at home than they are on the road.
That’s why it’s imperative to win the division and you have to do whatever it takes to get it done.
Now I wonder how many runs Hughes will try to give back right away.
Smokestack Lightning on a Viagra commercial. Interesting choice of songs.
Jorge has one of the hottest wives in baseball, that’s how much you know, CR9…
Doreen August 31st, 2010 at 8:49 pm
I’m sorry, but I’m missing all these “Phil” things in what I guess are song titles? Not getting it
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I’ve been doing it for about 30 minutes and neither do I. That’s part of its charm, I guess. Better than flame wars, right?!
Niemann’s shoulder must still be a problem
We bought it drank bourbon and decorated the tree…It was fun.
so much for Buster Olney’s ’98 Yanks comparison w/this yr’s Rays
if they lose tonight, they will have already lost more games than the Yanks did the entire season (including the playoffs)
Yankees say “Ha” to Mitch Williams.
You mean Toronto is actually winning? Against the Rays? Is Cito confused?
Hughes knows?
Best music of the 60s and 70s came from Dylan, Croce, Neil Young and Ronstadt. The 50s was all Fats and Buddy Holly.
Oh, no! If Tampa Bay loses, the streak of the Yankees and Rays sharing wins and losses will be over!
Such a shame.
Let’s go Hughes, easy 1,2,3 inning and then hit the showers…
11-3 Jays
But the Rays always wait until the ninth inning to beat the Jays. No?
Good Yankee teams were always able to win on the road..
Get 3 outs here and he’s in line for the win.
Keeps the innings down, and he has something to build on.
Mick – you mean Firewoman?
I have to go to bed now 1.51am here and I am up for work in 5 hours.
Hopefully got enough runs on the board to win this game now.
10 runs in the 6th for the Jays
people would be leaving the Trop, if there were actually people there
Jeff Niemann is one towering monster. And his face rivals Youkilis’ for ugliest in the game – now that the big unit is retired.
that was a good breaking ball to get the pop up…
# GreenBeret7 August 31st, 2010 at 8:51 pm
Best music of the 60s and 70s came from Dylan, Croce, Neil Young and Ronstadt. The 50s was all Fats and Buddy Holly.
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Ain’t That a Shame would be a perfect ballpark song after the other team makes an error or gives up a big home run.
what’s wrong with this ump?
# Joe from Long Island August 31st, 2010 at 8:51 pm
You mean Toronto is actually winning? Against the Rays? Is Cito confused?
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After tonight, the Toronto will be 7-7 vs the Rays.
It’s the Sox that Toronto flops over.
Don’t forget the Beatles, Stones and Zeppelin.
1 more out, Phil…………
This Yankee team has the second best road record in the league.
They are a much better offensive team at home than on the road this year.
Like many GREAT Yankee teams of the past.
Nick in SF……..In-n-Out time my man……
Christ, the Jays are tearing apart the Rays
9 hits (6XBH) and a HBP in one half inning
A quick out and let hughes open the 6th inning.
Betsy August 31st, 2010 at 8:52 pm
Good Yankee teams were always able to win on the road..
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the Yankees have a 38-28 road record this year, the only team that is better is the Rays and that’s because they won about 15 out of their first 20 on the road this year.
i really cant stand mike lowell. what an arrogant tool. just like youk and ortiz, argue every strike call. you do know, mike, that pitches down the middle are strikes.
Man this ump is killing Phil
Tor: 11
TB :3
IIOIIOIIO -
You got that right.
How refreshing to have a Matt impersonator in our midst.
Come on Phil!!!!!
yes
Nice easy inning………..
Blue Jays are going to have an impact on this race.
Good inning for Phil. Good game for Phil. Struggled with control, but worked through it.
Phil’s command is off but this strike zone is very tight. No outside corner to that plate.
Hughes has to remember how to throw less than 20 pitches in an inning
and how to avoid walking batters
and how to put away hitters
and how to get strikeouts
I guess because of his innings limit and he is in line for the win… 97 pitches… That could be it for Hughes no?
Phil for the 6th!!!!
I have to admit the ump was squeezing Phil in that inning. He threw a nice looking curve to the 2nd hitter (I think) – that was a strike.
I would like to go to Vegas with Ruby Tuesday.
That way, I’d know exactly what not to bet.
Then I could retire.
That was his best inning. Do you go hitter to hitter in the 6th or call it a night for Phil?
He’s getting squeezed bigtime tonight.
The 0-1 pitch to Kouzmamoff was a strike.
He bounced back and got the out.
The A’s were late on EVERY fastball in that inning and they were all sitting dead red.
Good outing for Hughes tonight. Kept his head, kept the runs down, and threw more of his off speed pitches.
The bizarro Matt is here!
Phil it up!!!
Without Matt our world is empty.
GreenBeret7 August 31st, 2010 at 8:55 pm
A quick out and let hughes open the 6th inning.
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Normally I say yea. But if his limit is closer than what we think. I’ll give the night off.
Looks like the Hughes rifle was firing with bent sights in the first 3.2 innings. Eiland must have taken a hammer and straightened them out.
A couple of days ago I posted about how had it is for a young pitcher to develop at the same time his team is trying to win now (and that’s not even the yankees which is really trying to win now…)
This is what I was talking about.
Too many Yankee fans like the idea of young pitching but don’t want to sit through what the natural process for them to learn is.
The big complaint all season is that hughes doesn’t throw his off speed stuff. Tonight he does that and people don’t like the results. They don’t want to see it.
But if he doesn’t do this he’s ability to get better will slow down.
What people really, truly want from Hughes is a pitcher with a low to mid-90′s fastball that he can locate at will and two refined off speed pitches.
In other words the expectation is that he should be a front of the rotation now. That’s really what the implicit assumption is.
Hughes is learning out on the mound. But that’s not really acceptable to too many yankee fans.
He’s trying to locate his off speed stuff. His innings are building up and tonight he’s getting under his fastball making it difficult for him to locate.
This is what it’s like for 24 year old pitcher come august 31 in their first season in the rotation.
At this time last year David Price didn’t look good at all. It’s just the way it is.
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I loved Jim Croce. Harry Chapin is someone I love to listen to as well. I love music – tunes – but lyrics that get to you? Get me every time.
I don’t know if Girardi will send him out but it would be part of his continuing education to have Phil pitch the 6th and build upon the easy 5th inning. With a 7 run lead, though, putting one of the long guys in makes good sense as well.
tonight will (hopefully) be the first night that the Rays and Yanks will finally be separated at the top of the division in eight days.
it’s the first time in the history of the game that two teams stayed tied for the division lead for an entire week this late in the season.
(Jack Curry mentioned it in yesterday’s pre-game)
Again if u told me at the start of the year Phil would have 16 wins… I would be overjoyed…
Pat M, I am looking forward to the burger and shake tonight….
@Doreen: each title was adapted from a song from Bob Dylan’s landmark “Blood on the Tracks” album to fit LoHud’s all-Phil-all-the-time gestalt.
P: Hughes, P 4.10 (98 pitches, 52S, 46B)
AB: Kouzmanoff 1-3, .260 Deck: Ellis, M
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like to see better S/B ratio from Phil near September against this team.
But you couldn’t ask for a better scenario – get him out after 5 with a great chance for a win.
Solid stuff from Hughes waiting on the guys to thank him for picking him up.
That’s great to see.
That’s enough for Phil tonight.
Way to gut it out, he didn’t have much.
98 pitches. Hughes should be done.
Wow, just looked at the Rays/Jays game score. The Jays scored 10 runs in the 6th inning! That has to hurt.
Too many Yankee fans like the idea of young pitching but don’t want to sit through what the natural process for them to learn is.
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Great point cb… Great point…. U got to be happy with hughes this year… He is still a work in progress
Phil Hughes should feel good about his night tonight. Sure, he threw a lot of pitches, but he worked on things he’s been neglecting – something to build on – and he got important outs to limit the damage. Big picture.
Cmon Marcus, keep the HR streak alive!
Thank you, Nick in SF.
I like Dylan but am an an afficionado.
CB, you’re right – and I’m guilty at times of being impatient. That said, I like that he’s throwing more pitches; it’s the only way he’s going to improve. He just didn’t have good command tonight, but the last inning I really felt like he was squeezed.
SJ, Very impressive gesture by the kid
I missed that Phil did that – good man; that goes a long way in the clubhouse.
“Solid stuff from Hughes waiting on the guys to thank him for picking him up. ”
I agree that’s great to see. Not a total coincidence that they have hit for him all year. Players appreciate that sort of thing.
Did the change ups look pretty decent? I wouldn’t know a good one from a bad………
Like stuffing a cat in a compactor.
Hughes didn’t have it tonight, but there was no melt down. While the A’s aren’t a great hitting team, they can still hit and do damage. Hughes didn’t allow that to happen.
He might, as Tino and Flash have talked about, been a little too fine early in the count, getting him in trouble.
He might also be running down a bit. He has pitched a good amount of innings this year. Its a big workload over a long season for him.
Glad to see Toronto beating up on somebody else other then us
A couple of multi hit games in a row got Tex’s BA up to .265.
Phil pheaver! catch it!
Hughes threw several nice change ups tonight.
His mechanics were off today and in ways which make it difficult to throw a good change up. Despite that he threw a few good ones.
Doreen August 31st, 2010 at 8:59 pm
GB7 -
I loved Jim Croce. Harry Chapin is someone I love to listen to as well. I love music – tunes – but lyrics that get to you? Get me every time.
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Doreen, Croce didn’t have a chance to write much, but, everything was quality. “Time In A Bottle”, One Less Set Of Footprints”, “Operator” and “Photographs And Memories” were his best. “New York Is Not My Home” is great, too. Chapin had more time, but another gone way too soon. Croce was like Holly…way to young and not enough time to write, but, what talent. What legacies in a short time.
I just don’t the angst about Phil Hughes.
He’s making less than 500k this year, is in his first full year a’s a starter, and has 16 wins if the pen finishes this off.
He’s got the SECOND MOST WINS IN THE LEAGUE!
He has a chance to win 20 games.
What more do people want?
He’s still learning and is winning a’s he learns.
I’d say that’s a good thing.
Let’s hope Gaudin likes pitching against his old team as much as Swisher likes hitting against them.
The hanging Chad…
Hopefully Gaudin doesn’t make it 9-5.
CB, thanks! He threw some very good ones in ST, which makes me think he has it in him to make that a solid pitch for him……………just has to use it more. Maybe tonight will give him the confidence to do so…………
***am NOT an aficionado – meaning, I don’t know all there is to know about Dylan. I’m a casual fan.
accodring to heyman.
yanks claimed lilly but lad pulled him back
Mitre looks like a cartel member.
Nice inning for Chad.
Doreen, you’re most likely not much for outlaw country, but, there are some great music by Willie Nelson, Lacy J Dalton and Kristoffersonn and Coolidge. Beautiful music, better lyrics.
You Don’t Mess Around With Phil
Gehrig, that’s the most intelligent thing you’ve said here, lol….He does….
Dodgers probably would not have pulled Lilly back had another team claimed him..no way they wanted him to go to the Yankees.
GB, I don’t know many songs by Willie Nelson, but one of my favorite songs ever is “You were always on my mind”.
would be sweet if Baltimore holds on to beat Boston as well…..
Strike Philter
pat August 31st, 2010 at 9:10 pm
Let’s hope Gaudin likes pitching against his old team as much as Swisher likes hitting against them
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If he could do that, with as many teams as he’s been on, he’d be a 20 game winner.
GB7 =
I think the fact that Croce and Chapin left us too soon makes their work all the more special to me. While I love the Beatles and all that stuff, the storytellers (who may not have the most technically beautiful voices) are the best.
Recently I was listening to Joan Baez – man, what a voice. Gorgeous. And Joni Mitchell – really unique voice. Pure. No histrionics like today.
GreenBeret7 August 31st, 2010 at 8:51 pm
Best music of the 60s and 70s came from Dylan, Croce, Neil Young and Ronstadt. The 50s was all Fats and Buddy Holly.
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Little Richard and Chuck Berry weren’t half-bad.
Its really odd why Hughes doesn’t wanna throw his change, it gets a lot of movement.
AJ needs to show up tomorrow night because I’m expecting a much better outing from Brett Anderson than they have gotten from Cahill and Massero.
At least keep the team in the game in the early innings and not meltdown in the first inning.
Jeter the double play meter.
what’s it going to take for toronto to overtake the red sox?
can we loan them montero for the stretch run?
Wow, Jeter has looked bad lately. Better now then in October, but I’ll feel better when he gets it going again.
Derek looks like he has a black eye.
In Future Watch news, the Royals are having their way with Cliff Lee.
Pay the Texman, Boof!!!
Brett Anderson is a good pitcher. Has he been hurt this year, his W-L is only 3-5.
our game is going slowly……….
If Teix got a hit there, he would have the same BA as Jeter
scary (but let’s not start this argument again)
Pat-
Jeter’s average has a black eye.
why does Kay think that Tino can psychoanalyze Jeter?
does Tino Martinez have some kind of “Being John Malkovich” portal into Derek Jeter?
GB7 -
I had a very short foray into country music – Reba McIntyre, the Gatlin Bros. – and I like that, again,the music tells a story. I have a Rita Coolidge album, believe it or not. I know Kristofferson has written some good music, but the others, I’m not famiiar with. I’ll have to give ‘em a try.
I used to listen to music 18/7 , but in the last couple of years, I appreciate quiet when I’m alone. No tv, no radio, no stereo. I think it has to do with sensory overload – my daughter is almost never quiet —
– and the other daughter ALWAYS has multiple electronics going.
I need to get back to my music. I used to sing a lot, too – not so much anymore.
I love Jim Croce – Bad Bad Leroy Brown and that You don’t tug on Superman’s cape song (I forget what it’s called).
GB7,
I liked me some Queen, Eagles and a little Marshal Tucker. Ronstat was under appreciated.
Timo “completes” Jeter, according to Kay.
# -Matt- August 31st, 2010 at 9:21 pm
If Teix got a hit there, he would have the same BA as Jeter
scary (but let’s not start this argument again)
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This is, for many reasons, a bad comparison.
I love Kenny Rogers………can’t look at him though; that plastic surgery ruined what was once a very handsome face.
One song I love, but I forget who sings it (Baez?) is ” The Night they Drove Old Dixie Down”…
Betsy August 31st, 2010 at 9:15 pm
Dodgers probably would not have pulled Lilly back had another team claimed him..no way they wanted him to go to the Yankees.
GB, I don’t know many songs by Willie Nelson, but one of my favorite songs ever is “You were always on my mind”.
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Thank you doll. That’s sweet of you.
Oh, my error. You’re talking about the song. Yeah, he had so many. “Forgiving You Is Easier Than anything I’ve Ever Done”, A Horse Named Music” and “Slow Movin’ Outlaw” are just a few.
Tino and Jeter are very close friends.
So close that Tino knows the cardinal rule of being a close friend of Derek’s…….
Never divulge ANYTHING of substance on Derek’s life or what he thinks about anything. lol
Bool..boool…boool
“The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down” is a song originally by the The Band
ABBA, Bee Gees, Beach Boys, Beatles, Chicago….and there are songs I love that were basically the only hits their singers ever had.
Tino and Jeter are BFFs so Tino knows him better than most people.
I like carrots.
(I forget what it’s called)
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here you go, Betsy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQrTGE4wwwA
hardwired7
Jeter and Tino are good friends.
Which is exactly why Kay shouldn’t even bother trying to get info from Tino on Jeter.
Daniel Nava just got scrizzewed on a 2-2 pitch on the 10th pitch of the AB. The pitch was way outside and the HP ump just rung him up like the loser he is!!
Betsy-
I know Baez had an extremely popular cover of it, although there’s no way to tell if you’re referring to that version.
Jays beating up on an AL East team other than the Yankees for a change. Glad to see they showed up.
Now Box of Chocolates Burnett can pitch us back down into a first place tie tomorrow.
IIOO, The Band? I never heard of them. It’s a song about a Civil War soldier, I think – something to do with the Civil War. I love it almost for that reason alone, lol
GB, lol – sorry to disappoint you, lol.
->IIOIIOIIO
Yeah, I know
AB’s, batting order, walks, speed, power, whatever
still, it’s not as if it’s not notable at all
Joe is somewhat simian in appearance, no?
Eagles!!
See, this is the problem. So many that I love and I can never remember them all.
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You had also mentioned Ronstadt. She’s so versatile – she can sing anything.
“Daniel Nava just got scrizzewed on a 2-2 pitch on the 10th pitch of the AB. The pitch was way outside and the HP ump just rung him up like the loser he is!!
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after all the calls he has gotten in his time up here, it is about time
Frozen Rope August 31st, 2010 at 9:27 pm
Now Box of Chocolates Burnett can pitch us back down into a first place tie tomorrow.
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Let me guess… when we won the World Series last year, you were already lamenting the fact we might not win this year, right?
Whoa, MLB.com Gameday is telling me that Gaudin has only given up 1 HR in all of August, which I guess was the one that Daric Barton just hit
That’s crazy (43 AB sample, by the way)
Hardwired, thanks! LOL Jim from that song and the dude from Leroy Brown should meet up – wonder who would win.
One thing bothers me about Ronstadt – what the heck is a stone pony?
Jackson Browne. Dan Fogelberg.
Betsy-
The Band were pretty popular, I’m sure you’ve heard their music. And yes, then that is definitely the song by the Band. Virgil Caine “served on the Danville train” and “He was just eighteen, proud and brave, but a Yankee/ laid him in his grave.” It’s a great song, I have never heard any version except the original, but I’m sure it’s equally wonderful.
Doreen August 31st, 2010 at 9:22 pm
GB7 -
I had a very short foray into country music – Reba McIntyre, the Gatlin Bros. – and I like that, again,the music tells a story. I have a Rita Coolidge album, believe it or not. I know Kristofferson has written some good music, but the others, I’m not famiiar with. I’ll have to give ‘em a try.
I used to listen to music 18/7 , but in the last couple of years, I appreciate quiet when I’m alone. No tv, no radio, no stereo. I think it has to do with sensory overload – my daughter is almost never quiet — – and the other daughter ALWAYS has multiple electronics going.
I need to get back to my music. I used to sing a lot, too – not so much anymore.
Kristofferson and Coolidge – “Loving arms” will make you cry. Their best.
Who let the fool in?
One song I love that I remember when I was a kid is Ghost Riders in the Sky. When I was 13, my parents and my sister and I went to a dude ranch in AZ and that song was played quite a lot………….very cool.
My favorite song by The Band is “I Shall Be Released.” Gets me every time. Once saw Phoebe Snow do an amazing version of it that had pretty much the whole audience in tears. Great stuff.
Lee getting his hard again? Did he hit a wall?
IIOO, I will check out their version on You Tube…….
I think Carl Wilson, of the Beach Boys, may have had the most beautiful voice ever. His “God Only Knows” is a sublime song.
# pat August 31st, 2010 at 9:31 pm
Jackson Browne. Dan Fogelberg.
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Saw Jackson Browne live not too far back, he ended his set with “The Load Out”/”Stay” combination, it was awesome. He’s truly under appreciated.
Doreen August 31st, 2010 at 9:29 pm
Eagles!!
See, this is the problem. So many that I love and I can never remember them all.
GB7 -
You had also mentioned Ronstadt. She’s so versatile – she can sing anything.
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always loved listening to her. Hard to believe that she’s been around for 45 years making recordings. Some of the old standards and her music with Dolly Parton and EmmyLou Harris are some of the best.
Ooh, I love a couple of Dan Fogleberg’s songs – Leader of the Band always makes me tear up.
I also love Bread – well, a few of their songs, esp. the theme from The Goodbye Girl (an amazing movie_
Ac1
No the balls he is pitching are going over the wall.
IIOO, I once looked up the history of that song – it’s very interesting. I may do it again tonight as I’m sort of inspired now.
I like small words.
# Betsy August 31st, 2010 at 9:33 pm
IIOO, I will check out their version on You Tube…….
I think Carl Wilson, of the Beach Boys, may have had the most beautiful voice ever. His “God Only Knows” is a sublime song.
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If I recall correctly, Brian Wilson was supposed to sing it initially, but just before recording gave it to his brother. I remember reading an interview where Carl was still overjoyed at being given the opportunity. Funny, now, you couldn’t picture any other voice singing that song, but it almost wasn’t so.
Obviously, Carl Wilson is dead now, but this interview was from the mid 90′s.
Thames was due for a stinker and tonight he got it.
No offense, but this entire music discussion has gotten far too conventional.
The Mekons, “Where Were You?”:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71s-T8oUTQs
No Kip Winger?
Betsy August 31st, 2010 at 9:28 pm
IIOO, The Band? I never heard of them. It’s a song about a Civil War soldier, I think – something to do with the Civil War. I love it almost for that reason alone, lol
GB, lol – sorry to disappoint you, lol.
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Betsy, she did two with that theme. “The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down” and “Cruel War”.
Jeez….what the heck…
Granderson is regressing his swing.
The Bands version of when i paint my masterpeice is good too
Saw a Mekons 25th anniversary show at Maxwells in Hoboken several years ago.
Nick-
Television? Tom Waits? Captain Beefheart?
I can’t believe I forgot Van Morrison in this discussion
I collect screws.
Marquee Moon, yes.
Betsy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMHyovwX7JM
See No Evil:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7L0IYPXKj8
Nick in SF August 31st, 2010 at 9:41 pm
Marquee Moon, yes
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The only Television album worth owning, but what an album it is.
My feet are aggressive. Very.
One of the first concerts I ever went to was No Nukes at MSG. 8th grade and took the train into the city with a group of friends without telling our parents.
Jackson Browne, Bonnie Raitt, CSN, Springstein, John Hall, Tom Petty, James Taylor, Carly Simon, Doobie Brother, Poco, etc……
Amazing line-up of talent!
Dan Fogelberg -
My absolute favorite song of his is “Another Auld Lang Syne,” but “Longer” was our wedding song and “Run for the Roses” I love too. I like Jackson Browne, but my husband LOVES him; and then there’s James Taylor, too.
Oh, my, you could go on all day.
Has anyone seen James Taylor/Carole King? I saw a PBS special – they were fantastic, and then they were on Ellen DeGeneris together and so marvelous talking about their work. Great.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwvTcU2WG3I
Marquee Moon live 2002
Pull Chad. Put in joba
One of the best songs to come out of the Vietnam era was by Buckley, (Jeff’s dad). “Once I Was”.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related
I’m now stuck watching videos from “The Last Waltz”
pat -
I was at NO NUKES!!!
But I wasn’t in the 8th grade. I was a little older. My husband had to miss it – work. Unbelievable concert. Carly Simon – one of her first appearances on stage in along time.
Sorry…Tim Buckley
3 outs left for Boston. This would just be a great night to gain on both those teams. Come on O’s !…
# Tom in N.J. August 31st, 2010 at 9:45 pm
I’m now stuck watching videos from “The Last Waltz”
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Buying the DVD was one of my greatest investments
James Taylor and Carole King are both great in concert. So was Gordon Lightfoot.
Freaking hippies…how did that work out?
We need nukes now.
Just caught Levon and Willie Nelson last month at Radio City.
Excellent show.
Levon’s once majestic voice is now limited, but his time-keeping is immaculate.
Moondance.
Memories….
That’s the thing about music – it transports you to different times and places and feelings.
Nick in SF -
I’m stuck in the 70′s or so. There’s lots of music I hear today that I like, but it’s not the same, it’s not associative.
Only for the brave, Mission of Burma:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7L0IYPXKj8
SJ-
Not sure if you are on here right now but JOnathan Mayo posted a story about the AFL nic props for Tony
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....8;c_id=mlb
Doreen
That was YOU!
It was a September concert so I guess I was in 9th grade not 8th by then.
My friend and I saw Jackson Browne in concert 6 times in one year. Doctor My Eyes and The Pretender are still 2 of my favorite songs.
looking good for the Fightin’ Showalters
“Buying the DVD was one of my greatest investments”
I cannot decide what my favorite performance is. I’m torn between Neil Young’s “Helpless” and Van the Man’s “Caravan”
Doreen, I love the 70′s too!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNKSs1J38EA
Someone has to mention Fleetwood Mac.
So there!
Great job by Gaudin.
We’ll have a fresh bullpen for tomorrow.
GB7-
I just heard Lightfoot’s song about the Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald the other day! (I think that’s the name of the song, but I’m not sure.)
He almost got it to STRETCH…STRETCH.
No one’s talking about the game? It must be over.
Good job Chad!
Doubront gives up the big 8th inning home run.
Guess they should have had Delcarmen in there to keep it close… oh, wait…
# Tom in N.J. August 31st, 2010 at 9:52 pm
“Buying the DVD was one of my greatest investments”
I cannot decide what my favorite performance is. I’m torn between Neil Young’s “Helpless” and Van the Man’s “Caravan”
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Both amazing, all the guests were great, but I gotta go with Van. Apparently he got stage fright (which was quite common for him) right before he went out and the guys backstage had to practically push him on the stage. Didn’t show in his performance though, did it?
Another interested story was that after Neil Diamond (who I can’t stand) came off stage, he said to Bob Dylan “good luck following that up” to which Bob responded “what do I have to do, go on stage and fall asleep?”
9-3 yanks bottom of the 8th
pat -
We were sitting about two rows from the very top, farthest away from the stage. It didn’t matter. It was great!
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the Yankees long relief guys have really been doing a fantastic job!
Nick-
You linked to Television, not MoB.
Caught the Smiths reference earlier, btw.
You have good taste, all considered.
m
Technically, no. But it’s felt over innings ago.
m August 31st, 2010 at 9:55 pm
No one’s talking about the game? It must be over.
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Yanks are just getting some early cage work in for tomorrow’s game.
Yeah, that’s it, Doreen. Have you heard “Dream Street Rose” or “The House You Live In”? great music.
Doreen August 31st, 2010 at 9:53 pm
GB7-
I just heard Lightfoot’s song about the Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald the other day! (I think that’s the name of the song, but I’m not sure.)
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Been listening to him in the truck for the past few days. Driving down to Wilkes-Barre next month to see him in concert.
Another homer off Doubront.
It’s almost like Francona handed him the hammer for the final nail.
Thanks for the story Gayle.
He told me he talked with Mayo. I didn’t know when he was going to post the story.
I’ve heard those stories too, IIO. Van’s performance becomes transcendent once he busts out the leg kicks…Epic.
Tom in N.J. August 31st, 2010 at 10:00 pm
I’ve heard those stories too, IIO. Van’s performance becomes transcendent once he busts out the leg kicks…Epic
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JUSTA ONE MORE TIME!
Doreen-
Do you have Sirius or XM? You would love “The Bridge”. Its all singers/songwriters and the best of folk and soft rock
Red Sox fans wanted more Felix Doubrount.
well, there you go.
The funny thing about the Sox game is, we will still have people here trying to sell the Red Sox won’t be “going away”, as if they are still in the race.
They have been out of it for awhile.
Just playing out the string now.
Thanks, Gehrig.
I was in the car listening to updates. Heard that TB was up 3-1, despite just getting their first hit. I knew we were up at the time.
I checked later via mobile and I saw that Niemann had just plunked Bautista (mini fist pump). Later on, I saw that they went up 4-3 on the next batter.
Then the radio update later said that Toronto scored 10 in that inning (big fist pump).
Hopefully, the Boston score hold up, too.
Ooopps, sorry, here’s the MoB song I meant to link to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQVZaeEmkOA
Glad someone caught that Smiths reference — lord knows, it would be the first time.
IIOO, I didn’t know that….not that Brian Wilson is chopped liver, but only Carl could have done that song.
GB, I’ll go on You Tube later and check that out…………..thanks!
Girlfriend in a Coma is such a good song (despite the unfortunate title)
Cliff Lee’s price just came down.
Asked if there’s an appropriate time to waive the white flag, Epstein said, “That’s a tough question. It’s kind of like the Supreme Court said about pornography: ‘You’ll know it when you see it.’ Right now, we’re not eliminated. We’re trying to get really hot.”
“It’ll be difficult, but not impossible,” said Epstein. “I’m not going to sit here and assess how difficult it will be. I’ll leave that up to you guys. I think, that, as I just said, we need to play better and get hotter than we’ve been at any point this season. This is not the position we want to be ion. I’m not going to sit here and blow smoke and say where we want to be. We’re not.”
http://www.boston.com/sports/b.....tra_bases/
Sayonara, bosox.
I just heard Lightfoot’s song about the Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald the other day! (I think that’s the name of the song, but I’m not sure.)
…listened to that song when I was a kid.. That one and “Sundown” was my other favorite.
another great artist back then was Al Stewart.
# SJ44 August 31st, 2010 at 10:02 pm
The funny thing about the Sox game is, we will still have people here trying to sell the Red Sox won’t be “going away”, as if they are still in the race.
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That’s the result of taking red sox blogs to seriously.
New thread
I was at that No Nukes show and also the outdoor concert…..But I was considerably older than eighth grade. Actually, freshman year in college.
Legendary two shows, for sure.
Nick in SF August 31st, 2010 at 10:03 pm
Ooopps, sorry, here’s the MoB song I meant to link to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQVZaeEmkOA
Glad someone caught that Smiths reference — lord knows, it would be the first time.
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Good times, for a change.
Yankees pick up another game on Boston. Rays lost, so Yanks are in first by themselves.
Very good day for the Yankees.
Goopyetz