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Video chat tomorrow at 1 p.m.

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Aug 31, 2010 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

On the first day of September — the end of August got here quickly — Sam and I are going to be video chatting here on the LoHud Yankees Blog. The chat begins tomorrow at 1 p.m. Just guessing, but some of the topics we’ll probably discuss…

The state of the Yankees rotation. We’ll be talking just a few hours before A.J. Burnett takes the mound. I’m sure his name will come up. We’ll probably talk about Phil Hughes’ innings limit, Ivan Nova’s hot start, CC Sabathia’s pursuit of 20 wins and Javier Vazquez’s chances of being a starter again this season.

Robinson Cano as AL MVP. Without a doubt the best and most consistent hitter in the Yankees lineup this season, he might not be the MVP favorite, but he’s certainly in that conversation. Joe Girardi has already said Alex Rodriguez will return to the clean-up spot when he’s healthy. Is that the right choice?

September call-ups. I’ll stick with my original guess of Lance Berkman, Jonathan Albaladejo, Juan Miranda and a catcher being added on the 1st. I’ll update that to guess that Chad Moeller will be the catcher. Mark Newman confirmed for me over the weekend that Jesus Montero is not Rule 5 eligible this winter. I don’t see any sense putting him on the 40-man just to play a bit part down the stretch.

The pending free agency of The Captain and The Closer. One’s had a bad year, the other’s had a great one. Both have had Hall of Fame careers that you can bet will end in New York.

Brian Cashman’s trade deadline vs. Brian Cashman’s winter. Granted, it was a bad market this winter, but the bulk of the Yankees offseason moves have no paid off. Cashman’s deadline dealing, on the other hand, has been a real help down the stretch.

Postseason expectations. Who’s most dangerous for the Yankees? What’s the best-case scenario? Is this roster built for a long run through the playoffs?

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207 Responses to “Video chat tomorrow at 1 p.m.”

  1. jacksquat August 31st, 2010 at 12:42 pm

    IMO biggest key to the postseason is Pettitte being healthy and as effective as he was during the regular season.

    If not, we have CC and a bunch of inconsistent/unproven (as of now).

  2. Bronx Jeers August 31st, 2010 at 12:44 pm

    “Cashman’s deadline dealing, on the other hand, has been a real help down the stretch.”

    Like Meatloaf famously sang, “2 out 3 ain’t bad”

  3. NYY fan in NH August 31st, 2010 at 12:46 pm

    31 games left. Just need to guys to get healthy and back into the lineup. Vazquez deserves another shot. This next start is crucial for AJ and hopefully he bears down and stays focused. Who really knows at this point but what other choice is there for NY?

  4. Chuck58 August 31st, 2010 at 12:47 pm

    Hi, Doreen, and thank you for running GTLU.
    Here’s my lineup, which I borrowed from my ol’ MUTLUPT-M, Erin :-) :

    [1] LF Brett the Jet
    [2] SS Derek Sanderson Jeter
    [3] 1B Tex
    [4] 2B Cano aka Erin’s PBF
    [5] DH “en Fuego!” Thames
    [6] RF Swisha licious
    [7] C “Pee-pee Hands”Posada
    [8] CF Grandy
    [9] 3B el Nino

    Any thoughts of doing GTLU next season?

  5. upstate kate August 31st, 2010 at 12:53 pm

    GTLU
    SS Jeet
    RF Swish
    1B Tex
    2B Robbie
    C Po
    DH Thames
    CF Grandy
    3B Pena
    LF GGBG

    thanks for a fun season of GTLU Doreen
    my own awards (sorry guys, no prize)
    most creative line up names goes to Chuck, who always gives me a chuckle
    most repectful line up goes to RayVT, who always types out their full names

  6. blake August 31st, 2010 at 12:54 pm

    The Yankees should have a good chance at a title this year but if certain dominoes fall into place the 2011 team COULD be very very special.

  7. SJ44 August 31st, 2010 at 12:56 pm

    Sam Borden?

    Is he being taken out of the LoHud Witness Protection Program? lol

    Good to see Sam back. Always enjoy his, as well as Chad’s, perspective on the team.

  8. stuckey99 August 31st, 2010 at 12:57 pm

    As I see it, Gardner has 3 weaknesses:

    1. Bunting.
    2. Lack of aggressiveness stealing bases.
    3. Taking too many pitches. Yes, you can take too many pitches. Especially 3-1 cookie fastballs in the middle of the plate.”

    I think I may be in the “be careful what you wish for” camp in regards to #1 and #3.

    Boiled down the argument is Brett Gardner needs to put more balls in play. And I’m not entirely convinced that would be a slam dunk good thing.

    He’s 7th in the AL in OBP, despite averaging like .235 for July through August.

    I’m not certain I want him changing his approach at all. It’s working as is.

  9. GreenBeret7 August 31st, 2010 at 12:57 pm

    My choice of backup catcher is in Trenton. Rene Rivera.

  10. Patrick August 31st, 2010 at 12:58 pm

    Hanley is hitting .200 with RISP and his attitude is really rubbing guys the wrong way in the clubhouse.

    Lacking a veteran leader on the Marlins has hurt Hanley’s development, IMO.

    I never said that he’s having a great year but it’s not like people will forget about him if he keeps putting up these kinds of numbers. From a skill position his numbers are very very respectable. And we can’t forget that he was one of the best players in the NL prior to this year, this is likely just a down year for him. Let’s put it this way, he’s been far more valuable at the plate this year than Jeter and it’s not even close.

    That being said, you are probably right that he needs to move to CF and I’m sure you know what you’re talking about when you discuss the clubhouse issues with Hanley. Everyone knows about the one issue he’s had this year but I’m assuming there have been more conflicts since then.

  11. Erica in NY August 31st, 2010 at 12:59 pm

    GGBG LF
    Jeter SS
    Tex 1B
    Cano 2B
    Swisher RF
    Posada C
    Thames DH
    Granderson CF
    Nunez 3B

    Thanks as always Doreen. You did good! :-)

  12. stuckey99 August 31st, 2010 at 1:00 pm

    I’m going on record predicting Javier Vasquez starts Saturday over Moseley.

    I think Girardi wants to get proven veterans back into the rotation when he can. And probably sees Moseley as a better option in the bullpen than Vasquez.

    And this is just a guess, but I suspect maybe the Yanks think the lightning in Moseley’s bottle might be wearing out.

    And despite a small sample size, Vasquez is “hot” right now.

  13. Shame Spencer August 31st, 2010 at 1:01 pm

    Repost!

    Shame Spencer August 31st, 2010 at 1:00 pm

    Pointless interjection: As much as I love Munson, Mercer, Mattingly… none of them hold a candle to what Derek Jeter means to the New York Yankees/Major League Baseball.

  14. GreenBeret7 August 31st, 2010 at 1:01 pm

    For those at home and watching TV with nothing going on of importance, Bob Costas and Ernie Harwell is on MLB.

  15. stuckey99 August 31st, 2010 at 1:02 pm

    Oh, and yeah, it was a 6 run lead, but I also think he let Vasquez finish that game and go 4.2 for a reason.

  16. SJ44 August 31st, 2010 at 1:07 pm

    Having Gardner put more balls in play is not necessarily a bad thing.

    In fact, it would improve his overall game greatly if he did bunt better and turn on get me over fastballs.

    You can’t expect the league to continue to walk him next year if they sense a lack of aggressiveness.

    I do agree that at times he has gotten a bad zone.

    It is though, a game of adjustments and if Brett continues to make positive adjustments, he will continue to improve as a player.

  17. Bronx Jeers August 31st, 2010 at 1:08 pm

    stuckey99 August 31st, 2010 at 12:57 pm

    As I see it, Gardner has 3 weaknesses:

    1. Bunting.
    …..

    ——————————————————

    From an article in today’s NY Times that discusses Jeter.

    “Earlier in the day, Jeter bounced into the batting cage with great energy and assumed an unusual position, standing tin the left-handed batters’ box instead of his usual right side.

    Jeter opened batting practice by dragging a couple of left-handed bunts, which drew immediate attention from a few teammates and Girardi.

    “Hey Gardy!” Girardi shouted in the direction of Brett Gardner, who was standing in short right field. Several Yankees picked up the cue. “Gardy!” they shouted….

    Jeter caught Gardner’s eye and dragged two more left handed bunts to the happy yelps of his audience.”

  18. MaineYankee August 31st, 2010 at 1:08 pm

    GB7

    “Oh, please…let’s not get syrupy here. What kind of board would this be without rants directed at anybody and everybody?”

    I save my rants for curmudgeons like you and randy.

  19. Chuck58 August 31st, 2010 at 1:11 pm

    “upstate kate August 31st, 2010 at 12:53 pm

    thanks for a fun season of GTLU Doreen
    my own awards (sorry guys, no prize)
    most creative line up names goes to Chuck, who always gives me a chuckle
    most repectful line up goes to RayVT, who always types out their full names”

    Aw, thanks, Kate :-)
    That is a wonderful prize!

  20. Doreen August 31st, 2010 at 1:11 pm

    stuckey99 -

    If I had to choose from 1, 2 or 3 for Gardner, it would definitely be #2, to be more aggressive on the basepaths. And even so, if you look at the league SB leaders, he’s right there.

    Erica -

    Thanks – you were a good mentor. I really appreciate the time you took last off-season to help me out.

    Chuck 58 -

    It’s too soon to say. After the last lineup today, I am going to post a year-end report on GTLU on the GTLU web page (“click my name”) along with the full standings, including those who never won a game. All 182 people. :lol:

  21. MaineYankee August 31st, 2010 at 1:11 pm

    Also if Gardner does turn on those get me over fastballs he has shown the ability to really drive the ball.

    Either in the gap that he can turn into triples or in NYS a short porch HR.

  22. jacksquat August 31st, 2010 at 1:14 pm

    Yes, Gardner takes too many cookies. It’s surprising how many walks he still draws when he’s not really a “proven hitter” yet (with almost no hr power).

  23. MaineYankee August 31st, 2010 at 1:14 pm

    kate is just like Erica.

    Give out awards with no prizes. :evil:

  24. Carl August 31st, 2010 at 1:15 pm

    Bat Cano third. Tex 5th.

  25. Doreen August 31st, 2010 at 1:15 pm

    I truly don’t understand what’s up with Hanley Ramirez.

    He was a guy we saw play in Trenton (I believe it wasn’t the Thunder yet), and he was simply awesome. Clearly showed not only his talent, but a really professional demeanor, that I thought could translate to leadership ability. He was head and tails above everyone else on the field and while there have been other players that I’ve been impressed with at Trenton since, no one like that.

    I wonder what happened?

  26. Erica in NY August 31st, 2010 at 1:16 pm

    Doreen-

    You took the game further than I ever could have dreamed. You really took the game and made it your own.

  27. Chuck58 August 31st, 2010 at 1:16 pm

    Doreen, thank you for all of your hard work :-)

    Maine, the award IS the prize :-) ;-)

  28. Erica in NY August 31st, 2010 at 1:16 pm

    MaineYankee August 31st, 2010 at 1:14 pm
    kate is just like Erica.

    Give out awards with no prizes.

    *************

    :lol:
    Are my bragging rights worth nothing??????

  29. MaineYankee August 31st, 2010 at 1:18 pm

    Doreen

    Trenton was the RS AA team then.

    He seems to maybe caught a bit of the B.J. Upton disease.

  30. YankFanCA August 31st, 2010 at 1:18 pm

    It won’t happen, but against righties the Yankees are better off with Gardner leading off and Swisher hitting second. As blasphemous as it may be, Jeter should be batting 8th or 9th versus right-handers. It’s not fun to watch him struggle mightily at the plate, but the sample size this year is pretty large.

  31. GreenBeret7 August 31st, 2010 at 1:19 pm

    MaineYankee August 31st, 2010 at 1:08 pm
    GB7

    “Oh, please…let’s not get syrupy here. What kind of board would this be without rants directed at anybody and everybody?”

    I save my rants for curmudgeons like you and randy.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    That’s good. Always save your best for the best. Never waste a good rant on 2nd rate hacks.

  32. ron August 31st, 2010 at 1:20 pm

    I can’t see the yankees starting montero’s clock at 20 yrs old when he will not play much down the stretch unless they make him sit in the stands in uniform just to enjoy the show but not be added to the 40.He can do everything else with the team though.

    Also if montero is added to the 40 it leaves one less prospect protected from the rule 5.

    Moeller if added can be cut to re-open a 40 man spot.

  33. Doreen August 31st, 2010 at 1:20 pm

    Erica -

    Thanks. It just shows I had either too much time on my hands, or I really don’t like housework. :lol:

  34. MaineYankee August 31st, 2010 at 1:20 pm

    Chuck58

    I knew a comment like that would not get past a certain poster. :lol:

    It was totally for effect and it worked.

  35. LGY August 31st, 2010 at 1:21 pm

    Gardner probably shouldn’t bunt as much as people want him to. His approach now is working out pretty well, no?

    But, putting the bunt in the other teams mind would likely benefit him. If he could just lay down a solid bunt once in a while that at the very least puts the option out there for teams to have to think about.

    The 3B will be pulled in more and more often to protect against the bunt and it could be something in a pitchers head that he will have to guard against. The more things going on in a pitchers head to try to counteract IMO could lead to more mistakes and therefore more hittable pitches for Gardner.

  36. stuckey99 August 31st, 2010 at 1:21 pm

    “You can’t expect the league to continue to walk him next year if they sense a lack of aggressiveness.”

    People said the same thing last year. And they’re walking him more than ever before, especially the last 2 months, even though he’s struggling when he swings.

    Maybe the lesson guys like Gardner and Nick Johnson and Nick Swisher (last year) is if you’re simply willing to take pitches (even if they’re clear fastball strikes) and not be afraid of getting down 2 strikes, ML pitchers will issue you a fair amount of walks.

    It’s a theorem I believe worth testing.

  37. justinxdance27 August 31st, 2010 at 1:23 pm

    GTLU

    Brett Gardner LF
    Derek Jeter SS
    Mark Teixeira 1B
    Robinson Cano 2B
    Nick Swisher RF
    Jorge Posada C
    Marcus Thames DH
    Curtis Granderson CF
    Ramiro Pena 3B

    Going with same line-up as yesterday’s official. Thanks Doreen for your time this GTLU season!

  38. Erica in NY August 31st, 2010 at 1:25 pm

    MaineYankee August 31st, 2010 at 1:20 pm
    Chuck58

    I knew a comment like that would not get past a certain poster.

    It was totally for effect and it worked.

    ******************

    HISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS :-)

  39. LGY August 31st, 2010 at 1:25 pm

    I should add to that though, that I don’t expect it to happen this year. Which also kind of bothers me about the way people view Gardner.

    Many Yankee fans tend to view Gardner like he has completely tapped out his potential and talent this year. Many view him like he is not a young player or any sort of “prospect” or work in progress. They expect him to have perfected every intricacy of his game.

    This is Gardner’s first full year starting in the big leagues. He should over time improve aspects of his game like aggressiveness on the base paths or bunting.

    Gardner is not a seasoned vet at the end of the rope here. He has shown to be a very promising young player this season.

    Unfortunately, young players are not complete products though and he should “develop”

  40. SJ44 August 31st, 2010 at 1:27 pm

    Doreen,

    Head got too big, he won the “war” he had with Fredi Gonzalez because the owner loved him and hated Fredi, and he lost the respect of the guys in the clubhouse.

    If you are going to act like that, you have to then carry the team in order to have your teammates have any regard for you. He hasn’t done that this year.

    Here is all you need to know about Hanley……

    The day after he loafed on that ball, Andre Dawson went to talk to him.

    Andre Dawson not only works for the Marlins but, he is universally loved by the players and is one of the most respected athletic figures down here.

    He told Hanley he needed to apologize to the team and Fredi.

    Hanley told him to @#$# off.

    They needed three guys to hold Andre back because he was going to punch out Hanley on the spot.

    Hanley, shocked by what was going on, apologized on the spot to Andre, they went off and talked for awhile, and Hanley then apologized to Fredi and the team.

    He needs a veteran player on that club he respects to set him straight.

    Unfortunately, the Marlins are too cheap to add such a player so, he has to mature on the fly.

    So far, those results have been mixed.

  41. Fran the original August 31st, 2010 at 1:30 pm

    Doreen,

    Here is my line-up. Can’t believe we are at the last GTLU.

    Thanks so much for hosting this season. You did a great job. You really deserve an award for Best Hosting Job on a Blog :)

    Gardner LF
    Derek SS
    Tex 1B
    Robbie 2B
    Thames DH
    Swisher RF
    Jorge C
    Granderson CF
    Nunez 3B

    Thanks again.

  42. MaineYankee August 31st, 2010 at 1:31 pm

    Erica

    :lol: :lol: :lol:

  43. SJ44 August 31st, 2010 at 1:31 pm

    Nick Johnson was hitting in the low .100′s with this approach. Not really a recommended way to go.

    Nick Swisher is hitting more balls hard, and is more productive, with the pragmatic approach I’m suggesting Gardner take.

    The game is more than just drawing walks.

    He has the ability to attack more fastballs. Which in turn, will make pitchers adjust knowing they aren’t going to get 1-2 gift strikes in his AB’s.

  44. JS August 31st, 2010 at 1:32 pm

    Great stuff re: Hanley SJ.

  45. pat August 31st, 2010 at 1:32 pm

    Doreen

    I saw a press release about this site this morning and thought it might help if you wanted to assist your daughter in finding tickets. If you’d prefer she forget about it, you never saw this. :wink:

    http://www.tiqiq.com/Tiqiq/Sin.....erID=29085

  46. Doreen August 31st, 2010 at 1:32 pm

    SJ44 -

    Thanks for filling in the blanks.

    That’s really a very sad turn of events.

  47. GreenBeret7 August 31st, 2010 at 1:33 pm

    The vast majority of gardner’s potential is speed based. If he fails to properly use that speed, he is wasting most of his potential.

  48. SJ44 August 31st, 2010 at 1:34 pm

    IMO, we should all chip in and get a prize for Doreen for hosting this year.

    I’m game if anybody else is.

  49. upstate kate August 31st, 2010 at 1:35 pm

    Stuckey and LGY
    good points on GGBG
    as you say, he is a work in progress
    It would be nice to see him attempt to bunt more, if only to be disruptive to the other team.
    It is good to see that he is not concerned by having 2 strikes on him, but sometimes he should take advantage of a good pitch. Swish is like that, he usually takes his share of pitches, but if there is one he likes, he goes for it. Actually, that was one of the things I liked about Abreu.

  50. Bronx Jeers August 31st, 2010 at 1:37 pm

    I was at MIA recently trying to kill some time before a flight.

    At a gift store outside terminal E they had a lot of Yankee paraphernalia and some Dolphins stuff but I didn’t see any Marlins gear.

  51. MaineYankee August 31st, 2010 at 1:37 pm

    SJ44

    Maybe you can get her a signed Gardner ball. :lol:

  52. Jacob Ruppert August 31st, 2010 at 1:38 pm

    I’m game.

  53. upstate kate August 31st, 2010 at 1:40 pm

    Maine Yankee
    you are a trouble maker today :) you even got HISSSSSSed at

    SJ
    that sounds like a nice idea

  54. SJ44 August 31st, 2010 at 1:42 pm

    Maine,

    LOL. I was thinking a signed ball of some kind though.

  55. LGY August 31st, 2010 at 1:42 pm

    I think Doreen needs a new GPS lady

  56. Wave Your Hat August 31st, 2010 at 1:42 pm

    “No, I’ll just continue reading your insipid whinings and remark on those…boring as they are.”

    Ah, GB7-

    Your apparent need to respond to comments you find insipid and boring is fascinating. You need to get away from the computer more, have Nurse Cratchet wheel you out into the sunshine, sit on the veranda and gaze out at the parking lot.

  57. Betsy August 31st, 2010 at 1:42 pm

    Hanley Ramirez had the nerve to talk like that to Andre Dawson? It seems to me that the Marlins are enabling him……..it’s their fault as well as Hanley’s.

    As to Jeter, I’m not about to write him off over one year; I would’t be suprised at all if he bounced back in a big way next year.

    As to the rotation, I still would not put Javy back there yet, but eventually if he keeps this up, yes. Aside from CC and Andy, no pitcher has a playoff spot locked up so it would behoove all of them to get their acts in order.

  58. LGY August 31st, 2010 at 1:43 pm

    “LOL. I was thinking a signed ball of some kind though.”

    Sounds good. Signed LGY ball it is. Been waiting for the right cause to donate that baby to.

  59. GreenBeret7 August 31st, 2010 at 1:44 pm

    SJ, Florida has needed a Cliff Floyd/Mike Lowell type player for years to ride herd on some of those kids in Florida. That’s the trouble with young but talented kids. Nobody can tell them or show them about the facts of baseball life.

  60. Mgumpher August 31st, 2010 at 1:44 pm

    The thing that drives me crazy with Gardner is his not using his speed, his best talent, to do more offensively.

    He waits far too long to try a steal and the league has noticed it. A few throw overs and he stands like a statue. Crawford is always a threat to steal. Throw over on him a few times and he seems even more determined to swipe a base.

    Its the biggest reason I would love to see Crawford in pinstripes. He might teach Gardner about stealing and using his speed to the best advantage.

    That also goes with his hitting. He doesn’t, nor shouldn’t bunt all the time, but he should look to bunt a lot more often than he does. He can nearly beat it out when he hits the ball fairly well to a fielder, if he makes them come in its a harder play for them. His speed up first base has caused fielders to rush and make mistakes as it is, why not exploit that more?

    Imagine Crawford and Gardner on 1st and 2nd.

    I don’t think it will happen. I do hope that the Yankees work on Gardner on his stealing and bunting skills. He has the one portion of that skill that you can’t teach, speed.

  61. rb from LI August 31st, 2010 at 1:45 pm

    I don’t usually have time for GTLU, but I want to give it one more shot this season.

    Gardner LF
    Jeter SS
    Teixeira 1B
    Cano 2B
    Swisher RF
    Posada C
    Thames DH
    Granderson CF
    Pena 3B

    Hopefully I win and can keep my 1.000 BA. (2 for 2) ;)

    Thanks Doreen!

  62. Eduardo August 31st, 2010 at 1:46 pm

    The Marlins can hire Matt to teach Ramirez about the facts of baseball life. Matt will then have less time to post here.

  63. Chuck58 August 31st, 2010 at 1:47 pm

    hahaha, Maine, and good one. Righteo!
    [I'll mention as well that I've tried, but never quite managed to get "Hissed" :-( ]

    hahahahahhahaa!

  64. MaineYankee August 31st, 2010 at 1:49 pm

    kate

    It’s not hard to get a hisss. She just overreacts. :lol:

  65. stuckey99 August 31st, 2010 at 1:50 pm

    “Nick Johnson was hitting in the low .100’s with this approach. Not really a recommended way to go.”

    Nick Johnson has a career .401 OBP, including .388 THIS year.

    Yes, the .167 hitting Nick Johnson got on base at a .388 clip this year.

    I think you well know that’s what I meant.

    “Nick Swisher is hitting more balls hard, and is more productive, with the pragmatic approach I’m suggesting Gardner take.”

    Nick Johnson has a tool Gardner doesn’t have – slugging. Turning fastballs into doubles and HRs is something Gardner just won’t do as often as other players in the line-up.

    If Gardner gets on base at a .390 clip, I don’t care if he never swings at another pitch.

    The question I posing is – is there a correlation between his high walk rate and his taking pitches. I think there most definitely is.

    Swisher’s OBP IS down this year, but he makes up for it in his increased slugging.

    I KNOW you’re smart enough that you’re not placing value on Gardner’s avg over OBP, so the question is, 1.) will Gardner GET ON BASE more by swinging more; or, 2.) will the additional slugging potential outweigh a sacrifice in OBP?

    I’m not convinced of either at all.

  66. Robin August 31st, 2010 at 1:51 pm

    How did Hanley get along with Girardi?

  67. GreenBeret7 August 31st, 2010 at 1:51 pm

    If you need to be hissed at, just tell Erica that Johnny Damon is an over rated bum. You don’t have to mean it or anything. but, that’ll wind her up like a clock. Just be careful of the flying mainsprings, though.

  68. MaineYankee August 31st, 2010 at 1:51 pm

    I’ll bet if we could get matt to come here during the day we’d find he’s actually likable.

    Or maybe not.

  69. Patrick August 31st, 2010 at 1:52 pm

    SJ44,

    Interesting stuff about the Marlins and Hanley. You are probably right about them needing a veteran player to help hold the clubhouse together. When your best player is as immature as Hanley is, I guess you need that kind of veteran presence. Maybe now that Josh Johnson is becoming a star he can step up and fill that leadership role? Not sure if he’s up to it, I know nothing about him beyond the fact that he’s one of the best pitchers in the league.

  70. GreenBeret7 August 31st, 2010 at 1:54 pm

    MaineYankee August 31st, 2010 at 1:51 pm
    I’ll bet if we could get matt to come here during the day we’d find he’s actually likable.

    Or maybe not.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    God….I never realized what a sick sense of humor you have.

  71. Carl August 31st, 2010 at 1:54 pm

    # Robin August 31st, 2010 at 1:51 pm

    How did Hanley get along with Girardi?

    He loved Joe G

  72. RayVT August 31st, 2010 at 1:55 pm

    SS Derek Jeter
    RF Nick Swisher
    1B Mark Teixeira
    2B Robinson Cano
    DH Marcus Thames
    C Jorge Posada
    CF Curtis Granderson
    3B Eduardo Nunez
    LF Brett Gardner

    Thanks Doreen! Thanks Kate!!

  73. MaineYankee August 31st, 2010 at 1:56 pm

    GB7

    You need to fill that mentor roll to a certain poster that shows up during the games. :lol:

  74. Patrick August 31st, 2010 at 1:56 pm

    How did Hanley get along with Girardi?

    He loved Joe G

    Yeah, remember Hanley cried or whatever when talking about how great Girardi was? Maybe Hanley needs that kind of tough manager to keep him in line….

  75. GreenBeret7 August 31st, 2010 at 1:58 pm

    MaineYankee August 31st, 2010 at 1:56 pm
    GB7

    You need to fill that mentor roll to a certain poster that shows up during the games.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    Please. Not while I’m eating.

    You’re sadistic.

  76. ron August 31st, 2010 at 1:59 pm

    Great little inside story about hanley & dawson.

    How on earth can hanley not show respect to a man like dawson is mind boggling.

  77. SJ44 August 31st, 2010 at 2:00 pm

    Girardi and Hanley got along great. They are still close.

    Stuckey,

    What if swinging at more fastballs in certain counts/situations helps him become more aggressive in his overall game.

    It doesn’t do much good to look to draw more walks and then just stand at first base. Which he has done far too much of in the second half of the year.

    I’m not suggesting he completely abandon his approach and become a free swinger.

    I am suggesting he adds a more aggressive element in his game……

    For example, runner on third, less than 2 outs, 3-1 count on him…….

    That’s not the situation to be looking for a walk.

    That is the situation to be looking for a fastball in your happy zone and if its there, look to drive in the run.

    Taking that pitch, which he often does, for strike 2, is not a good approach. He has to be less predictable to keep pitchers uncomfortable when they face him.

    He makes some minor adjustments to his approach, he will be a more dynamic offensive player than he already is, IMO..

  78. Wave Your Hat August 31st, 2010 at 2:00 pm

    I don’t see Swisher and Gardner as being comparible at all.

    It is way premature to attribute Swisher’s year to any fundamental change in Nick. His batting average is up about 50 points over his career average, and unsurprisingly that has translated into a SLG which is about 50 points higher than his career SLG. The year he is having could easily just be random upside variation on the basic Nick Swisher, and the basic Nick Swisher is an above average player.

    Swisher is walking less this year, but that could be a random result, or the result of pitchers throwing him more strikes due to the Yankee lineup, or a combination of both.

    It is just too soon to say.

  79. Erica in NY August 31st, 2010 at 2:02 pm

    MaineYankee August 31st, 2010 at 1:49 pm
    kate

    It?s not hard to get a hisss. She just overreacts.
    ***********

    Me?!?! Overreact????…………………

  80. Nick in SF August 31st, 2010 at 2:04 pm

    I think we should collectively treat Doreen to a meal at her local ramen house.

  81. Patrick August 31st, 2010 at 2:06 pm

    WYH,

    From a statistical point of view you’re right, it’s too early to put any significance in Swisher’s numbers. But we know that he spent a ton of time with KLong this offseason and made some major changes in his swing. Because of this knowledge, I think we can put some more significance in the numbers he’s putting up.

    About Gardner, just watching him play, I think it’s a good conclusion that he needs to swing at more fastballs. It seems like every at-bat he looks at a fastball right down the middle in a hitter’s count. Obviously his purpose is to try and get on base but when he does get there he isn’t as aggressive as he should be. It seems like his objectives at the plate and on the basepaths are in conflict.

  82. Patrick August 31st, 2010 at 2:06 pm

    Hey Nick how are those Giants doing? Am I going to owe you even more of my hard earned dollars?

  83. stuckey99 August 31st, 2010 at 2:09 pm

    “What if swinging at more fastballs in certain counts/situations helps him become more aggressive in his overall game.”

    Not sure I see the correlation. I mean it’s a theory, I grant you. Not sure it’s a solid one.

    I’m simply suggestion if the count is 3-1 and a fastball is heading down the middle (to play off your example), is Brett Gardner going to have a greater chance of getting on base by putting that ball in play, or getting a ball on the next pitch (or the next several since he’s fairly adept at fouling pitches off.

    I’m simply in the “don’t fix was isn’t broken” camp, particularly if you’re not even certain the fix will make the car run more smoothly.

    I will say this. I say Cervelli swing at two 3-1 pitches this week, with the Yankees down and no on base.

    This is the sort of “aggressiveness” I don’t want Gardner displaying.

  84. Betsy August 31st, 2010 at 2:10 pm

    http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/s.....rdi-082910

    Can’t say I disagree with Bob here…………

  85. Nick in SF August 31st, 2010 at 2:11 pm

    Patrick, the Giants are scuffling and they blew a 9th inning lead last night to the Rockies, but they’re at 72-60 right now, so they just need 11 wins out of the remaining 30 games to make me a winner.

    I like my chances.

    At this point the decision to add the extra $5 to make the bet $35 so you would clear enough to get a fancy Starbucks drink with your profits might backfire.

  86. GreenBeret7 August 31st, 2010 at 2:12 pm

    The only Yankee that’s walking more than usual is Cano. He’ll have the highest in his career without counting the intentional walks. Everyone else is below their norms.

  87. Noreaster August 31st, 2010 at 2:12 pm

    My point(s) of view on Gardner are:
    1) Taking so many pitches is a good thing. Anything to drive up the pitch count of the pitcher is a good thing, especially in October.
    2) His defense is great, this should not be under rated. Again, especially in October.
    3) There is no excuse for him being such a horrible bunter. Speed is his game and this should add 10 base hits a year.

  88. Patrick August 31st, 2010 at 2:13 pm

    stuckey,

    But Gardner is a better hitter than Cervelli. He makes contact 98% of the time when swinging at a pitch in the strikezone and has a much higher avg when he puts the ball in play than Cervelli. I want him swinging on 3-1 fastballs down the middle, especially with men on base.

  89. Carl August 31st, 2010 at 2:14 pm

    # Betsy August 31st, 2010 at 2:10 pm

    http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/s…..rdi-082910

    Can’t say I disagree with Bob here…………

    So he is saying what everyone else has been saying for about 2 weeks now?

  90. Wave Your Hat August 31st, 2010 at 2:14 pm

    Patrick-

    As far as Swisher goes, I disagree. I think fans in general are too quick to attribute random upswings in a player’s statistics to coaching. I’m not knocking Kevin Long at all, but it’s just as likely, if not more likely, that Nick is just having a good year.

    As to Gardner, I don’t have any judgment on whether he should swing more aggressively or not. I think, generally speaking, that’s not a productive line of speculation but given Gardner’s lack of track record it isn’t impossible that he should (be more aggressive).

    I do like him, though, and believe he will improve naturally and be a very valuable Yankee. I am a firm Gardner not Crawford guy.

  91. Patrick August 31st, 2010 at 2:16 pm

    At this point the decision to add the extra $5 to make the bet $35 so you would clear enough to get a fancy Starbucks drink with your profits might backfire.

    Your nefarious gambling mixed with peer pressure is taking overpriced latte out of my childrens’ mouths! How am I supposed to put macchiatos on the table if I keep losing money to you!?

  92. tom tresh 15 August 31st, 2010 at 2:16 pm

    SJ44 August 31st, 2010 at 12:42 pm

    Not everybody who is a highly touted prospect makes it.

    Ruben Rivera was much more highly touted than Robinson Cano.

    Marty Jansen was much more highly touted than Andy Pettitte

    Things happen along the way on the road to the majors.
    *********************************************************************************
    One prime example was Brian Taylor. At the time he was better than even Andy Pettite. Just a shame .

  93. Patrick August 31st, 2010 at 2:18 pm

    Wave,

    Usually I’d agree with you about Swisher but in this case it seems more than a coincidence.

  94. Erica in NY August 31st, 2010 at 2:19 pm

    Nick in SF August 31st, 2010 at 2:04 pm
    I think we should collectively treat Doreen to a meal at her local ramen house.

    **********

    I like that idea!

  95. GreenBeret7 August 31st, 2010 at 2:19 pm

    sorry, but, Klap-trap is wrong about a few things. Pettitte’s injury hasn’t crippled the yankees. It may have made them uncomfortable, but it hasn’t come close to crippling them That spot has won an additional 6 games without Pettitte. He wasn’t going to win more than that. I’m sure that the can muddle along with that unreliable 15 game winner, whatever his name is.

  96. Noreaster August 31st, 2010 at 2:20 pm

    Wave, Totally agree with your stance on Gardner vs. Crawford. I wonder if Crawford might be on Theo’s shopping list in the off season. They have a lot of work to do on their roster with Beltre, Lowell, Ortiz, Tek coming off the books this year and Nancy, CF, Scoot, DiceK coming off next year.

  97. Nick in SF August 31st, 2010 at 2:20 pm

    Patrick, the best strategy is to chase your losses. I’m sure we’ll come up with another nifty bet to give you a chance to win back some of your money.

    Hopefully after you’ve been drinking. ;)

  98. Noreaster August 31st, 2010 at 2:21 pm

    Not to mention Martinez this year too!

  99. LGY August 31st, 2010 at 2:22 pm

    “As far as Swisher goes, I disagree. I think fans in general are too quick to attribute random upswings in a player’s statistics to coaching. I’m not knocking Kevin Long at all, but it’s just as likely, if not more likely, that Nick is just having a good year.”

    ————————————————-

    But then you are ignoring the evidence in front of our eyes and solely concentrating on the statistics. You are only taking into account part of the equation.

    Swisher last year had a very good year by his standards. It was arguably his best season to date in his career. That good year though was very much in the context of his career though in both his numbers and his appearance/approach at the plate.

    This year there are noticeable differences in almost all aspects of his game that do no fit the context of Nick Swisher’s career so far. His swing, his consistency, stance, approach, using more of field, etc. all in addition to his statistics.

    The upswing in his statistics has occurred but it is difficult to say where are still running on the same graph line.

    He seems to have taken one of those steps where he has transformed himself as a player and is running on a completely different path now.

  100. SJ44 August 31st, 2010 at 2:22 pm

    Good column by Klapisch.

    Wave,

    Given the fact KLong and Swisher spent the off-season changing his approach and mechanics from both sides of the plate, I think it’s reasonable to assume those changes are a major reason for his improved offensive play this season.

    Swisher certainly believes it to be the case.

  101. GreenBeret7 August 31st, 2010 at 2:22 pm

    The sad thing about the Brien Taylor situtation was that he wasn’t out looking for trouble and he was never in a bar that night. He went there to keep his brother from killing a guy for messing with the brother’s girfriend.

  102. Betsy August 31st, 2010 at 2:23 pm

    GB, you’re right – Moseley has done as well as could be asked in Pettitte’s place. AJ and Javy have killed the rotation. He never said Phil was unreliable, just that he has innings limits. I guess I don’t see what he said that was so wrong. CC is the only sure thing down the stretch – Andy at most will get two starts. The Yanks rotation just is not that strong – it’s the truth. Are they depending on Nova to run off a hot streak? I hope not………

  103. Betsy August 31st, 2010 at 2:24 pm

    Not that strong in comparison to the Rays, that is………they need Javy or AJ to step up.

  104. Wave Your Hat August 31st, 2010 at 2:25 pm

    Patrick-

    Swisher’s BABIP is up 61 points over his career norms. Perhaps that is due to Kevin Long, but I suspect it is more due to random fluctuation. If you take even 30 points of that away from him his numbers this year are virtually indistinguishable from his career numbers.

    Let’s wait another year to draw any conclusions.

  105. GreenBeret7 August 31st, 2010 at 2:26 pm

    If Pettitte stays on schedule, he’ll get at least 4 starts and maybe 5…not 2.

  106. Wave Your Hat August 31st, 2010 at 2:26 pm

    SJ44-

    I don’t doubt Nick Swisher believes it, and like I said I’m not knocking Kevin Long who I like, but see my 2:25PM response to Patrick.

  107. Nick in SF August 31st, 2010 at 2:27 pm

    That powerhouse Rays rotation is looking to get pounded by Yankee bats down the stretch.

    You’ll see.

  108. Betsy August 31st, 2010 at 2:27 pm

    GB, that would be great………hopefully all will go well with Andy.

  109. 108 stitches August 31st, 2010 at 2:29 pm

    It’s just outrageous how the Rays fighting and clinging to a 1st place tie with the Yankees can draw just 11,968 fans and playing a dynamic team that can provide the long ball in the Blue Jays that can play spoiler toward the Rays.

    It didn’t go unnoticed by the players.

  110. Patrick August 31st, 2010 at 2:30 pm

    Wave,

    Maybe you’re right, either way I don’t care, Swisher is awesome :)

    But just for the sake of argument lets look at a few more things. Swisher’s line drive percentage is up, his GB% is down, infield fly % is down, fly ball % just about the same. I think those numbers point to an improved swing, not improved luck. The only thing that could be luck is his infield hit % is up slightly but it’s such a small % of his hits I don’t think that has much influence on what we’re seeing from him.

  111. Wave Your Hat August 31st, 2010 at 2:31 pm

    I believe they said on the telecast last night that the Tampa TV station was getting record ratings for the games. Maybe the retirees down there just don’t want to trek to to the Trop when they can watch from their couch.

  112. SJ44 August 31st, 2010 at 2:32 pm

    It’s more than just looking at raw numbers.

    His mechanics and approach are completely different than a year ago.

    It makes no sense to look again a year from now because further adjustments could be needed as pitchers adjust, he gets older, etc.

    He’s a completely different hitter than he was a year ago, both mechanically and in his approach on certain hitting situations.

    That’s a direct byproduct of the changes he and Long incorporated into his game this off-season.

    It’s not a random occurrence. It’s the byproduct of making the changes needed to become a more consistent hitter.

  113. stuckey99 August 31st, 2010 at 2:34 pm

    “But Gardner is a better hitter than Cervelli. He makes contact 98% of the time when swinging at a pitch in the strikezone and has a much higher avg when he puts the ball in play than Cervelli. I want him swinging on 3-1 fastballs down the middle, especially with men on base.”

    What do you expect the tangible results will be?

  114. Noreaster August 31st, 2010 at 2:35 pm

    The problem with the Rays attendance is the Trop. It’s in an awful location and doesn’t ‘fit’ with the lifestyles of the average person down there. Move it to tampa, give it boating access, put a retractable roof on the place and make it ‘nice’ and people will come…

  115. Patrick August 31st, 2010 at 2:36 pm

    I have to agree with SJ44 on this one. I’m usually a numbers guy but in this case we have more information to go on, rather then just numbers.

    stuckey99, if Gardner swung at more 3-1 fastballs down the middle I suspect he’d probably get more hits. I don’t want the guy to become a free swinger overnight but it seems like he lays off a lot of very hittable pitches.

  116. Bronx Jeers August 31st, 2010 at 2:36 pm

    Katana-Ya East.

    I get the Kontatsu Ramen. (pork bone broth)

    http://www.yelp.com/biz/menkui.....uery:ramen

  117. Wave Your Hat August 31st, 2010 at 2:38 pm

    Patrick-

    I disagree with you on LD%. It is the same as it was 2006-2008, it is just up from last year.

    The only noticeable difference is ground ball percentage, which is down, and K/BB, which is significantly up, and HR%, which is actually down.

    He’s basically the same hitter, with a very large increase in BABIP, fewer walks and fewer ground balls.

  118. LGY August 31st, 2010 at 2:38 pm

    “What do you expect the tangible results will be?”

    ——————————

    Higher average and more run production.

    Or simply, the ability to maintain his current numbers as the league makes adjustments.

  119. UnKnown August 31st, 2010 at 2:41 pm

    GTLU

    Gardner LF
    Jeter SS
    Tex 1B
    Cano 2B
    Swish RF
    Posada C
    Thames DH
    Granderson CF
    Pena 3B

    A lot of peeps with this same line up. I highly doubt Girardi going with the same line up for two days in a row, but I think this is the best line up he could go with. So I am going with it.

    Thanks for Hosting D

  120. stuckey99 August 31st, 2010 at 2:42 pm

    “stuckey99, if Gardner swung at more 3-1 fastballs down the middle I suspect he’d probably get more hits. I don’t want the guy to become a free swinger overnight but it seems like he lays off a lot of very hittable pitches.”

    I’m just extremely dubious on expecting him to do better than a .390 OBP.

    I acknowledge it’s possible. But I’m beginning to suspect a high OBP might simply be a product of having a decent “eye”, bat control to foul off pitches and more than anything, a simply willingness to take pitches.

    Every extra ball in play Gardner records is also a potential walk taken away. I’m simply not sure at .390, extra hits are going to outpace the walks.

  121. Wave Your Hat August 31st, 2010 at 2:42 pm

    SJ44-

    If Nick’s BABiP were lower (less than a 61 point improvement), then he wouldn’t be as consistent a hitter. A hitter’s BABiP isn’t random like a pitcher’s, but still, a 61 point increase is off the charts.

    And I disagree on the value of waiting a year – if the swing is improved and not just changed good results will persevere through league adjustment.

    I think sometimes something happens, and we look too hard for a narrative to explain it.

    And, you know I love Nick Swisher. So don’t take the argument too far.

  122. goyanks27ws August 31st, 2010 at 2:43 pm

    Gardner LF
    Jeter DH
    Teixeira 1B
    Cano 2B
    Swisher RF
    Posada C
    Granderson CF
    Nunez SS
    Pena 3B

  123. stuckey99 August 31st, 2010 at 2:44 pm

    “Or simply, the ability to maintain his current numbers as the league makes adjustments.”

    Just FYI, the league is either not bothering to adjust or adjusting in Gardner’s favor. He’s walking at a ridiculous clip right now.

  124. Wave Your Hat August 31st, 2010 at 2:46 pm

    I thought we all knew walks are produced by the batter not the pitcher.

  125. CountryClub August 31st, 2010 at 2:48 pm

    jnorris427 Melky Mesa has been named the Florida State League’s Player of the Year

  126. ac1 August 31st, 2010 at 2:49 pm

    Reading comments about Jeter lately, don’t you all think he deserves the benefit of the doubt from us after all these years? There is clearly more to this than jeter is one year older. He hit .337 last year. Age doesnt account for the .268 this year, but because Jeter never complains, we would never know if he is hurt or if there is some other explanation.

    He has earned patience from us to see if he can bounce back in 2011 and beyond, and i believe he will. In the short term, we just hope that we can win in spite of his problems at the plate.

  127. LGY August 31st, 2010 at 2:49 pm

    He is walking at a ridiculous clip but his batting average has suffered.

    I don’t think anyone is saying they want Gardner to swing at every 3-1 pitch. Just to select his moments. He will likely be a more dangerous hitter if he adjusts his approach at times to the context of the game like with runners on base for example.

    Baseball is a game of adjustments. They don’t always come midseason, but they do eventually come.

    Gardner is also on pace to strike out 100 times btw. So while not swinging 3-1 at times is the loss of a potential walk, it is also the loss of a potential strike out.

    Finally, no one is saying to swing at anything on 3-1. But, when pitchers are throwing cookies over the plate, it could benefit him to swing at it.

    He has certainly proved that he is a good enough hitter to be handle a fastball down the pipe at a high success rate.

  128. Shame Spencer August 31st, 2010 at 2:49 pm

    You guys can’t be serious..

    If we take Doreen out to dinner it needs to be at a classy place like Red Lobster.

  129. EdFlorida August 31st, 2010 at 2:49 pm

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    file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Eduardo/Desktop/New%20York%20Yankee%20Jorge%20Posada,%20Wife%20Pen%20Book%20About%20Son%27s%20Deformity%20-%20AOL%20Health.htm

  130. Patrick from CT August 31st, 2010 at 2:50 pm

    Hi Doreen,
    Thanks for the GTLU fun all season!

    Gardner-lf
    Jeter-ss
    Tex-1b
    Cano-2b
    Swish-rf
    Posada-c
    Thames-dh
    Granderson-cf
    Nunez-3b

  131. SJ44 August 31st, 2010 at 2:51 pm

    I think sometimes you overthink the obvious.

    Over the course of 162 games, marginal improvements can often lead to better results.

    However, to achieve those marginal improvements, a player has to make major adjustments, which Swisher.

    It’s pretty tough to call that a “random” event or to say he could have made the same improvements if he didn’t change anything. There is no evidence that is the case.

    Especially since Swisher himself was looking to make changes after his awful post-season.

    If the player wants to make changes, it’s pretty clear he didn’t believe his results would improve in 2010 unless changes were made.

  132. Patrick August 31st, 2010 at 2:51 pm

    Wave,

    Perhaps his BABIP is higher because he’s hitting the ball harder.

    stuckey99,

    Maybe his average goes up, walks go down and obp stays the same? That’s pretty much been the case with Swisher. He’s been more aggressive so his BB% is down, his average is up but his OBP is largely the same as last year’s.

    Or what if his average goes up, walks go down and obp goes down slightly? A hit is better than a walk because it has a higher chance to drive in a run. So at what point does a higher average but a lower obp become a negative? If he swung at more pitches he might hit more than just singles and then his slg will also go up.

    I don’t know the answers to these questions so I’ll break it down pretty simply. A fastball down the middle is not a difficult pitch to hit (for major leaguers). Swinging at a fastball down the middle, in a count where most batters would expect this pitch, will probably generate hits at a pretty high percentage. This is a good thing as far as I’m concerned.

  133. CountryClub August 31st, 2010 at 2:51 pm

    jnorris427 Brad Suttle has also earned a spot on the FSL’s postseason All-Star team, although milb says he won it for his work at … shortstop

  134. champ809 August 31st, 2010 at 2:51 pm

    BAseball is a game of adjustments and Gardy strikes me as the type pf guy that will realize that he needs to always be making adjustments and thinking of ways to improve as a player in order to maximize his potential and earning potential….

    It’s not as if he’s just a god blessed talent like a Pujols or ARod or Hanley where he can take his game for granted and still earn.

    When guys that are natural hitters like an ARod or Cano or Tex rave about a coach like Long then you know that the he def brings something to the table. I mean can it be complete co incidence that the players that make the effort to take extra and off season work with him see immediate results and an increase in production?

  135. Giuseppe Franco August 31st, 2010 at 2:54 pm

    This has really been a breakout season for the Yanks minor league system. Now Melky Mesa has won the FSL Player of the Year.

    http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....;fext=.jsp

    HUGE change from a few years ago. Hell, even a couple of years ago when it seemed like every major arm was going down needing major surgery.

    Good for them. Lots of valuable young pieces being developed.

  136. GreenBeret7 August 31st, 2010 at 2:55 pm

    It should come as no surprise that suttle won a spot on the all-star team as a shortstop. He certainly didn’t confuse anybody as being a 3rd baseman.

  137. champ809 August 31st, 2010 at 2:57 pm

    GTLU- Last time winner

    LF Gardy
    SS Jeter
    1B Tex
    2B Cano
    RF Swish
    DH Thames
    C Jorge
    CF Grandy
    3B Nunez

    Phranchise’s 16th W tonight……7ip/3hits/0 runs/9ks….

  138. 108 stitches August 31st, 2010 at 2:58 pm

    Aside of further work with Kevin Long, it wouldn’t hurt Brett Gardner to listen to some advice from Mickey Rivers this spring on basestealing and bunting skills.

  139. MTU August 31st, 2010 at 2:58 pm

    GB-

    I guess you’re saying that there isn’t anything subtle about suttle’s third base play.

    You gotta be happy about Mesa. :)

  140. rl15 August 31st, 2010 at 2:58 pm

    Doreen,

    I disappeared for most of the summer, but I’m back for 1 last game of GTLU.

    GGBG LF
    Jeter SS
    Tex 1B
    MVP 2B
    Swish RF
    Jorgie C
    Thames DH
    Grandy Man CF
    Pena 3B

    Thank you again for putting the time and effort in. I look forward to playing next year.

    28 in ’10.

  141. Patrick August 31st, 2010 at 2:58 pm

    GF,

    You ain’t kidding man, this has been a really great year for the Yankee system. Almost every significant prospect performed at or above expected levels. Awesome.

  142. Wave Your Hat August 31st, 2010 at 2:59 pm

    SJ44-

    No point in continuing the argument. I am not saying your explanation is impossible, I simply said it is too soon to say it is true, and I hold to that. I also think a 61 point increase in BABiP (75 points over last year), with no significant corresponding uptick in LD% and a decrease in HR%, is as likely as not to be in large part random.

    I may overthink things, I do have a tendency that way, but I think you often are too quick to attribute change to coaching or attitude or the like because that is what you are familiar with. It’s an understandable bias we all share.

  143. Wave Your Hat August 31st, 2010 at 3:00 pm

    The Yanks should hire Rickey Henderson to work with Gardner.

  144. blake August 31st, 2010 at 3:01 pm

    Swisher is in better shape, has a shorter quieter swing from both sides of the plate, and is keeping his head more still when he strides. After making these changes he has performed better this season…I guess you could attribute it to chance but in doing so you’re choosing to ignore what’s been seen on the field.

    Sometimes BABIP just means you’re hitting the ball harder…it doesn’t always mean you’re getting luckier.

  145. GreenBeret7 August 31st, 2010 at 3:03 pm

    MTU August 31st, 2010 at 2:58 pm
    GB-

    I guess you’re saying that there isn’t anything subtle about suttle’s third base play.

    You gotta be happy about Mesa.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    All you hear at the ballpark when a grouder is hit to Suttle is, “Watch out!! He’s got it again.”

  146. CB August 31st, 2010 at 3:05 pm

    “The year he is having could easily just be random upside variation on the basic Nick Swisher, and the basic Nick Swisher is an above average player. ”

    From a statistical standpoint that’s not particularly true.

    Swisher is now probably several standard deviations above his mean career performance. As such he’s outside of his expected performance simply due to random variation around his prior mean performance. You’d have to do formal evaluation to determine this but just eyeballing the means I’d guess that would be the case.

    Swisher projected to hit .235 coming into this season. He’s likely over two standard deviations past that projection. That would suggest that he’s outside of performance one could reasonably expect from random variation.

    Could it be a random occurrence. Sure that’s always possible. But it’s very difficult to say that’s the case given how far above expectations he is.

    Season’s like Swisher is having raise the general issue of how does one handle, interpret and treat statistical outliers.

    That’s a fairly complicated topic.

    But it’s also one that is best not treated purely statistically. What you really want to do is evaluate substantive reasons for potential outliers based on things like well validate theories and models.

    The answers are purely in the data. The data can’t fully answer those kinds of questions because they are often contextual.

    So if a player is at performance this far above expectation what’s more reasonable than attributing it to random variation would be to see if there is a substantive reason for this altered behavior.

    And in Swisher’s case when you watch him hit he’s very, very different than he was in the past.

    People are now attributing way to much “random” behavior in baseball.

    Baseball isn’t even a game ruled that much by randomness. It’s much more accurate to describe it as primarily chaotic than primarily random.

  147. stuckey99 August 31st, 2010 at 3:05 pm

    “He is walking at a ridiculous clip but his batting average has suffered.”

    You’re assuming a cause and effect, aren’t you? His avg has dipped BECAUSE he’s walking so much/taking to many pitches.

    Perhaps his thumb his a factor in the avg dip and the increased walks is his adjustment to that (which huge applause to him if so).

    Can someone smarter than me check his BABIP splits in July and August as compared to April-June?

    “Finally, no one is saying to swing at anything on 3-1. But, when pitchers are throwing cookies over the plate, it could benefit him to swing at it.”

    I just think that’s somewhat assumptive.

  148. GreenBeret7 August 31st, 2010 at 3:05 pm

    MTU, I’ll be happier when he cuts back on the strikeouts and the multiple slumps during the year, but, no question…quite a power/speed and leather combination.

  149. Erica in NY August 31st, 2010 at 3:06 pm

    Wave Your Hat August 31st, 2010 at 3:00 pm
    The Yanks should hire Rickey Henderson to work with Gardner.
    ************

    That didn’t turn out so well when the Mets brought him in to help Jose Reyes.
    But poker abilities went through the roof!

  150. Erica in NY August 31st, 2010 at 3:07 pm

    Shame Spencer August 31st, 2010 at 2:49 pm
    You guys can?t be serious..

    If we take Doreen out to dinner it needs to be at a classy place like Red Lobster.
    ************

    LOL…
    A couple of years ago, I was working on an audit with 4 other people and Red Lobster was having “Endless Shrimp”. We went for lunch one day and did a shrimp eating contest.

    This little blond girl ate 76 shrimp and ran away with the title

  151. stuckey99 August 31st, 2010 at 3:07 pm

    “Maybe his average goes up, walks go down and obp stays the same?”

    What’s the virtue in that for a non-slugger?

  152. MTU August 31st, 2010 at 3:07 pm

    GB-

    You’ve been consistent in your view of Suttle’s 3rd base play.

    I’ve always thought it was good for people to have more than one career skill. In Suttle’s case one is Baseball player the other might be a Man who cuts meat. :)

  153. champ809 August 31st, 2010 at 3:09 pm

    Suttle and especially Mesa deserve all the accolades that come their way.

    GB

    I think is being a lil hard on Suttle he’s a good defensive 3B working his way back from 2 shoulder surgeries. … Not easy for a 3B to do….

    His game seems to be rounding back into shape.

    Two years ago before the injuries he was every bit the hitter that Laird was when the played in Charleston together and he was a much better glove not to mention a switch hitter.

    I feel that Mesa, Suttle, Sublett, Murphy and the Almonte Bros( no actual relation ) Abe and Zoilo are the hitters to make that quantum leap next season on to everybody’s radar.

    I’m also high on Segedin, Maloney, Roller, Eduardo Sosa, Kelvim Duran and Kelvin Perez.

    This year for the Yanks farm was the year of the pitchers and next year will be the position players that make the most noise, imo.

  154. Wave Your Hat August 31st, 2010 at 3:09 pm

    “Sometimes BABIP just means you’re hitting the ball harder…it doesn’t always mean you’re getting luckier.”

    Sure, I don’t disagree.

    But in Gardner’s case, let’s say he is hitting the ball harder.

    But, those hard hit balls aren’t flying out of the park more often. And while his LD% is up 3% from 2009, it isn’t up from 2006-2008, and he is hitting fewer ground balls.

    So for Nick, fly balls which aren’t line drives seem to be dropping safely more often.

    Is that an improved swing, luck or both? I believe we need to wait to decide.

  155. SJ44 August 31st, 2010 at 3:09 pm

    I attribute it to coaching when the guy is a completely different hitter than he was a year ago.

    He is more balanced from both sides of the plate. He’s hitting the ball harder, and more consistently, from both sides of the plate.

    He is using more of the entire field, especially in RISP situations. Something he didn’t do a year ago.

    Those are all adjustments from a year ago. How is it not coaching?

    Had he not made those adjustments, he wouldn’t be as effective a hitter because he wasn’t as effective, or as consistent, with his mechanics a year ago.

  156. stuckey99 August 31st, 2010 at 3:10 pm

    btw – Fangraphs did a very interesting thing recently, IMO.

    The got 2000+ readers to respond to a survey in regards to what Carl Crawford’s next contract will be.

    The results?

    Average length: 5.5 years
    Average salary: $16.4 million

    http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs.....-crawford/

    Just fans, no ML team is beholden to honor the findings, but interesting nonetheless.

  157. GreenBeret7 August 31st, 2010 at 3:10 pm

    Suttle is a player for the fans behind 1st base….except for the ones that he hits with the throws.

  158. Giuseppe Franco August 31st, 2010 at 3:11 pm

    # Patrick August 31st, 2010 at 2:58 pm

    GF,

    You ain’t kidding man, this has been a really great year for the Yankee system. Almost every significant prospect performed at or above expected levels. Awesome.

    ————

    The Yanks are going to have to decipher which of the minor leaguers this season has really overachieved (perhaps Nova?) and fringe 40-man roster guys and package a few together for perhaps a bullpen arm, bench guy, or even a catcher.

    Now I’m not suggesting it will only take spare parts to acquire anything of value in return. But these minor leaguers do have value to them and could be used to package together for other pieces.

  159. Wave Your Hat August 31st, 2010 at 3:12 pm

    CB-

    If you want to call it chaotic rather than random be my guest.

    But if you are saying a BA improvement of 50 points in a given year is so rare that it can’t be a random result (or a chaotic result if you like) I disagree.

  160. Joe from Long Island August 31st, 2010 at 3:13 pm

    CB – interesting discourse on Swish being greater than 2 SDs above his mean. Hard to disagree with the conclusions, but I do have a question. How are you defining “chaos” and “randomness”?

  161. GreenBeret7 August 31st, 2010 at 3:14 pm

    champ809 August 31st, 2010 at 3:09 pm
    Suttle and especially Mesa deserve all the accolades that come their way.

    GB

    I think is being a lil hard on Suttle he’s a good defensive 3B working his way back from 2 shoulder surgeries. … Not easy for a 3B to do….

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    I don’t care if he was the Brooks Robinson of college baseball. He’s like watching Gary Sheffield or Marcus Thames playing third base. He’s never been good as a pro….as much as you dream that he is.

  162. stuckey99 August 31st, 2010 at 3:14 pm

    No arm blow-ups in the last 2 weeks and a few decent performances in the MiLB postseason will do a wonderous year for the Yankees system even greater wonders.

    There will be many, many interesting topics of discussion in the off-season.

  163. Patrick August 31st, 2010 at 3:15 pm

    What’s the virtue in that for a non-slugger?

    Ribeyes!

    No but seriously, a single is more valuable than a walk. Are you telling me that Gardner will never come to the plate with runners at 2nd and/or 3rd? Or he could hit a double or a triple or even a HR. Those are all more valuable than a walk. Or even if there is a runner at first he could push the runner over to third with a single.

    Again, I don’t want Gardner to swing at everything. I don’t even want him to swing at ever 3-1 pitch. I’m just saying, I think it would benefit his game if he swung at 3-1 pitches that get a lot of the plate. Just from watching him play, it seems like he ignores a lot of those pitches.

  164. Wave Your Hat August 31st, 2010 at 3:16 pm

    “He is using more of the entire field, especially in RISP situations. Something he didn’t do a year ago.”

    He went the opposite way 65 times last year. So far this year he has gone the opposite way 62 times. Not a big difference. And he hit the opposite way much better last year.

  165. CB August 31st, 2010 at 3:16 pm

    “But if you are saying a BA improvement of 50 points in a given year is so rare that it can’t be a random result (or a chaotic result if you like) I disagree.”

    Well then you don’t put much value in statistical testing.

    What can I tell you. The arguments you are making aren’t correct to support your point. They actually point to the exact opposite.

    Now it’s very possible that Swisher goes back to more expected career production next season. But that still wouldn’t mean his current performance was purely random. It very well could mean he was unable to continue to reproduce skills he refined for this year.

    And by the way – the notion that “chaotic” and “random” are some kind of small semantic difference is not the case.

    People are now completely misconstruing the notion of randomness in baseball.

  166. GreenBeret7 August 31st, 2010 at 3:17 pm

    For some infielders, defensive issues can be traced to footwork, like Laird and Nunez. Sorry but when an infielder has two clubbed feet, he ain’t never going to be Fred Astaire.

  167. CB August 31st, 2010 at 3:21 pm

    “interesting discourse on Swish being greater than 2 SDs above his mean. Hard to disagree with the conclusions, but I do have a question. How are you defining “chaos” and “randomness”?”

    Your a doctor. How do you know drug X works better than drug Y in a clinical trial? It’s a similar principle only more complicated because it’s observational data.

    Random behavior is roughly behavior without deterministic cause. Chaotic behavior is behavior that is highly sensitive to initial conditions. Chaotic behavior often does have a component of randomness to it but it is not governed by randomness.

  168. ac1 August 31st, 2010 at 3:22 pm

    swbyankees Montero is the youngest (20) member of the team. Since Triple-A All-Star Game in July, he has hit .350 with 11 home runs,
    ___

    I hope we see him sometime in September.

  169. Fran the original August 31st, 2010 at 3:22 pm

    LOL…
    A couple of years ago, I was working on an audit with 4 other people and Red Lobster was having “Endless Shrimp”. We went for lunch one day and did a shrimp eating contest.

    This little blond girl ate 76 shrimp and ran away with the title
    ***********
    Erica,

    Congraulations. The last time I was in a Red Lobster it was held up at gun point and we hid in the back room until the police got there.

  170. CountryClub August 31st, 2010 at 3:23 pm

    The game has moved back to speed and defense. So I don’t doubt that Crawford will get a deal that average 13 – 15 mil per yr. That’s why a player like Gardner is so valuable. As someone said earlier today, he’s not as good as Crawford (and probably won’t be next yr either), but he’ll be making 400k next yr. Is crawford 13 mil better than Gardner? Obviously not.

  171. Wave Your Hat August 31st, 2010 at 3:23 pm

    CB-

    I couldn’t disagree with you more.

    Sometimes statistical outliers are just statistical outliers. The whole point is to avoid being too quick in concluding action X is caused by preceding action A, as you well know.

    In this case, preceding action A was trumpeted and well known, and action X is being viewed in the context of that preceding action A. And people therefore jump to the conclusion that X was caused by A. But we don’t know that.

    More time is needed to decide.

  172. SJ44 August 31st, 2010 at 3:23 pm

    He is a month ahead of his oppo field numbers of a year ago. That is a big difference in a baseball season.

    He also has hit the ball much harder, in every direction, than he did a year ago.

    The guy is a completely different hitter than he was in everybody’s eyes but yours.

    That’s ok but, to assert its a “random” event is less likely than his incorporated swing changes taking shape to improve his game.

  173. GreenBeret7 August 31st, 2010 at 3:24 pm

    If you want to see Montero in September, buy some photos or look at his pix on the internet. That’s about your only prayer.

  174. Patrick August 31st, 2010 at 3:24 pm

    Wow guys… interesting conversation.

    On what other blog would we discuss the differences between random and chaotic behavior and how it applies to baseball? That’s why I love Lohud!

  175. Tyler August 31st, 2010 at 3:25 pm

    I know that I am late to the discussion but I honestly think that Jeter has to be hurt. He had an MVP type season last year and while he is getting up there in age, he still is only 36. I think he has at least 2-3 more solid years left both offensively and defensively. Plus, Jeter started off the year very hot and had his average above .300 for most of April if I remember correctly. I think that something happened around that time (either a leg injury or I can’t remember if he got hit with a pitch) that has hampered him all year. The weak groundouts to 2nd and shortstop are just very un Jeter-like. He always drove the ball so well the other way and now 4 out of 5 balls out there are just weak grounders. I bet he comes back very strong next year and as many others have said, his contract won’t bog the Yanks down either way.

  176. stuckey99 August 31st, 2010 at 3:26 pm

    “No but seriously, a single is more valuable than a walk. Are you telling me that Gardner will never come to the plate with runners at 2nd and/or 3rd? Or he could hit a double or a triple or even a HR.”

    No, I’m saying rather than assuming the change will affect better results, perhaps some study is required.

    I’m just slightly conservative about changing the approach to something that’s working. It’s a risk. Yes, we can speculate about the benefits in the best case scenario, but if this approach is part of his baseball DNA, I’m somewhat hesitant to genetically engineer a mutation.

    This may be the baseball player Brett Gardner is supposed to be. And it’s a good one.

    i don’t fault fans are looking for small ways to improve, just caution positive results are not a given.

  177. CB August 31st, 2010 at 3:29 pm

    “I couldn’t disagree with you more.

    Sometimes statistical outliers are just statistical outliers. The whole point is to avoid being too quick in concluding action X is caused by preceding action A, as you well know.”

    You can disagree but this isn’t a matter of opinion.

    What you’re saying is just incorrect from the standpoint of statistical analysis.

    Yes, some extreme results outside of standard expectation are going to be made. Type II and type I errors are always going to happen.

    So sure Nick Swisher could be on of those cases.

    But that’s not the standard interpretation of what’s happening.

    If people interpreted data the way you are science would be completely different and there would be no reasonable basis for drawing inference regarding substantive differences.

  178. ac1 August 31st, 2010 at 3:29 pm

    tyler i 100% agree and i also think jeter has earned our patience with him. if it becomes clear next year that he has slipped, then we can talk, but jeter is too good to lose 70 points on his average with no reason other than one extra year.

  179. Patrick August 31st, 2010 at 3:30 pm

    WYH,

    Occam’s razor.

    Is it more likely that Swisher’s enhanced performance is caused by the extensive work he did in the offseason, where he re-made his entire swing and approach at the plate? Or is it more likely that he’s performing more than 2 standard deviations above his projections, simply due to random factors that we can’t quantify?

    Swish is about .50 points higher in BA this year than he was last year. For him to be hitting .250 this year we would have to take away about 23 hits. Do you think he’s had 23 MORE bloop hits this year than he did last year?

  180. SJ44 August 31st, 2010 at 3:30 pm

    Baseball is a year to year sport. It isn’t a statistical study of a test drug.

    Player numbers are evaluated on a year to year basis.

    In doing so, when you see improvement, you go back to see what the source of the improvement could be.

    When you see a guy make significant swing changes, and the results improve as they have, to say its a “random” occurance is incorrect.

    Especially since significant changes were made to achieve the results he has achieved to date.

  181. Joe from Long Island August 31st, 2010 at 3:30 pm

    CB – True. I hadn’t used the terms random or chaos to describe the phenomena, but it makes sense. I would use the term chaos to describe why a treatment only works for some patients with a particular condition, (said condition being the product of a variety of different causes), and not all patients with the same condition. The reason being, because different patients develop said condition (or end state) due to different primary diseases, and ultimately, you have to treat the underlying cause, not just the symptom.

    It’s why in clinical trials, you have to be fanatical to define your entry criteria, so that you’re really dealing with what you think you are, a uniform population.

  182. Wave Your Hat August 31st, 2010 at 3:30 pm

    CB-

    I thought you were a more careful reader.

    My point all along has been that Nick’s improvement could be random, or largely random, and that we can’t conclude yet that it isn’t and/or that it was caused by Long’s instruction.

    Others have said that we can conclude it isn’t random and that Long has been responsible for it.

    You have raised no point other than the 2 standard deviation one, and that the increase in BA is rare and followed the pre-season work. I’m sorry but that is not sufficient. The improvement in BA from Nick is far from unusual.

  183. GreenBeret7 August 31st, 2010 at 3:32 pm

    Gardner has no real baseball DNA. He’s half concert cello player and half middle line backer. Passive in the concert hall and aggressive on the field. He’s night and day and nobody knows what time of the day it is.

  184. CB August 31st, 2010 at 3:32 pm

    “On what other blog would we discuss the differences between random and chaotic behavior and how it applies to baseball?”

    Baseball is not random in the way people describe it. This has driven me increasingly nuts over the years.

    It is best described as chaotic.

    BABIP for example has a random element to it (most behavior does) but it’s not purely random. It’s more aptly described as chaotic though i can’t say that for sure as that kind of analysis hasn’t been done to my knowledge.

    Conceptually it fits though.

  185. Bronx Jeers August 31st, 2010 at 3:32 pm

    Congraulations. The last time I was in a Red Lobster it was held up at gun point and we hid in the back room until the police got there.

    —————————————————————————————————————–

    Scary stuff.

    But did you enjoy “endless shrimp” afterwards?

    Or was it just “endless nightmares”?

  186. Patrick August 31st, 2010 at 3:33 pm

    GB7,

    That was almost poetic.

    And hilarious :)

  187. Wave Your Hat August 31st, 2010 at 3:33 pm

    Patrick-

    I don’t know. Do you? Nick is hitting fewer ground balls and fewer HRs on a percentage basis. His LD% is up from last year but not from the preceding three years. Where are the balls going? I haven’t charted them, have you?

  188. CB August 31st, 2010 at 3:35 pm

    “You have raised no point other than the 2 standard deviation one, and that the increase in BA is rare and followed the pre-season work. I’m sorry but that is not sufficient. ”

    So then what level of certainty are you looking for?

    Because you’re level of expectation is outside of what’s practiced in science on a regular basis.

    What you’re saying is simply not correct from the standpoint of accepted statistical practice.

    You’re asking for cuts off that go past 95% confidence intervals. People don’t do that.

  189. CountryClub August 31st, 2010 at 3:35 pm

    SI_JonHeyman webb apparently wants $7.5 mil guaranteed for next year. love the guy. but come on now. maybe if sheets deal worked better

  190. Wave Your Hat August 31st, 2010 at 3:35 pm

    CB,

    If you want to grab the statistical high ground and make a point with the difference between randomness and chaos as it applies to baseball, that is perfectly fine.

    But then you owe us all a much more complete discussion of the difference between them as it applies to baseball than you have given us.

  191. Disco August 31st, 2010 at 3:36 pm

    The sense of bringing up Montero down the stretch is he would be a top 9 hitter on the team right away and play everyday.

  192. CountryClub August 31st, 2010 at 3:36 pm

    benshpigel #yankees v a’s: gardner, jeter, tex, cano, swish, posada, thames (dh), grandy, pena, hughes sp

  193. austinmac August 31st, 2010 at 3:36 pm

    I question the BABIP concept on the simple notion not all balls put in play are equal. I prefer to look at line drive percentage since that, presuming the record keeping and definition is good, shows us how often the batter hits the ball hard. I suspect Greg Maddux BABIP was high but his line drive percentage was not.

    Of course, someone may actually look that up and prove me wrong.

  194. Irreverent Discourse August 31st, 2010 at 3:37 pm

    disco – montero has never hit a pitch in the major leagues so… that would not be true at all.

  195. Wave Your Hat August 31st, 2010 at 3:37 pm

    CB,

    You are wrong.

    You are the one drawing a conclusion, not me, so the burden of proof is on you. That is the essence of science.

    You have said, I take it, that Swisher’s improvement is due to Long’s revamped swing. Fine. Now prove it.

  196. CountryClub August 31st, 2010 at 3:38 pm

    Disco August 31st, 2010 at 3:36 pm
    The sense of bringing up Montero down the stretch is he would be a top 9 hitter on the team right away and play everyday.

    —————–

    Would Jesus come up tomorrow and hit better than Thames? Kearns? To me, the answer is no. So it makes no sense to start his clock at age 20.

  197. CB August 31st, 2010 at 3:39 pm

    “My point all along has been that Nick’s improvement could be random, or largely random, and that we can’t conclude yet that it isn’t and/or that it was caused by Long’s instruction.”

    I should also say that from the data alone one cannot infer causation because this isn’t an experiment. And that’s going to be a recurring problem in baseball because while the data is exhaustive it is all observational.

    So even though one would conclude this is not a random occurence, that does not prove that it was Long’s instructcion that did it.

    But given the context that would be a reasonable inference to draw.

    But again, this is a common difficulty when working with observational data.

  198. Irreverent Discourse August 31st, 2010 at 3:40 pm

    austinmac – maddux had a .228 babip with a LD rate of 18%

  199. Chambliss August 31st, 2010 at 3:41 pm

    I agree about Jeter. He must be hurt. The jump throw play was nice last night, but he does not seem to be getting to balls to his left. It would be nice for the Yankees to open up a nice lead for the wildcard, enough to allow them to sit Jeter for a week to get healthy.

  200. CB August 31st, 2010 at 3:42 pm

    “You have said, I take it, that Swisher’s improvement is due to Long’s revamped swing. Fine. Now prove it.”

    I never said that. What I’m saying is that you cannot reasonably attribute an increase in swisher’s performance to random behavior. To do so would go past what the reasonable cuts off established in rigorous science are.

    That’s all I’m saying. One cannot definitively know why this has happened because that’s an issue of substantive context that’s outside of the data.

    But it’s incorrect to say this is likely due to random behavior.

    That’s all.

  201. MTU August 31st, 2010 at 3:43 pm

    WYH-

    Correlation is correlation.

    But even strong correlation need not be causation.

    The only way to determine causation is through controlled experimentation, and unfortunately not all phenomena are subject to
    controlled experimentation.

    For example, Large hips in women might be highly correlated with successful pregnancies but that doesn’t mean they cause successful pregnancies.

    To say that, you would need to manipulate women’s hip sizes in a controlled fashion and then observe the resulting effect on pregnancy success rates.

    In essence you would need to perform an experiment, or series of experiments to validate the hypothesis.

    Since the Women would never consent I guess we’d never know but you get my drift. :)

    The distinction between correlation and causation is sometimes very subtle but nevertheless very real.

    I promise that’s as serious as I will get for a long time.

  202. RayVT August 31st, 2010 at 4:02 pm

    Wave Your Hat August 31st, 2010 at 3:30 pm

    Hello Wave! Go Hokies!

    I actually think Nick’s results are based on both Coaching and random. LOL! Not trying to be a diplomat here, but here is why.

    Nick changed his batting stance, his approach to swinging, and his swing. His stance allows him to see the ball better. His hands use to move quite a bit and that can be distracting & keep him from seeing the pitch recognition quickly. (These are coaching!)

    On the random side, confidence is playing a factor as well. Since the coaching seems to have taken, then Nick’s self confidence has increased and the results tend to follow. (This is the random side.)

    Even though I agree with SJ that stats are an individual year to year thing, the proof of his approach being tied to coaching (good that is), will be shown in the next year too. I suspect it will. Given the drastic change in approach, stance, swing & even studying tendencies of pitchers, I believe it is predomintely coaching and only tweaks will be needed next year to adjust to the pitcher’s changes for him.

  203. ron August 31st, 2010 at 4:07 pm

    It is doubtfull that montero will give us more offense than thames is now so bringing him up would not be smart.He also would not play much because you wan’t posada playing almost every game down the stretch.

    You start the clock on him & have to create a 40 man spot for him meaning we leave someone else unprotected in the rule 5.

    Imo moeller will be up,then he will be dfa’d to re-open a 40 man roster spot so we can protect an additional prospect.

  204. ron August 31st, 2010 at 4:14 pm

    CB & WAVE

    Can you just slow down just a bit i am still looking up outliers in the dictionary.

    Great stuff.

  205. reddog44 August 31st, 2010 at 5:13 pm

    Whoa, I sometimes forget we almost got Cliff Lee –

    YOU GUYS SEE THIS??

    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....8;c_id=mlb

  206. Native Bronxite September 1st, 2010 at 12:56 pm

    Return Javy to rotation and put AJ into bullpen.

  207. Elsy Alexader August 23rd, 2014 at 12:08 am

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