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Hughes: “It’s certainly not a strength or a fatigue issue”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Podcast on Sep 01, 2010 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

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Joe Girardi was impressed by his starting pitcher last night, but not for the usual reasons.

“He found a way to battle through it today,” Girardi said. “Which is a sign of a good pitcher, because he had no command of his fastball.”

Phil Hughes has walked five batters in each of his past two starts. That’s a season-high, a number he hadn’t reached since his first start of the year. Hughes had walked a total of six batters his six starts before this two-outing slide.

“It’s been going on for a couple starts, to so it’s starting to snowball,” Hughes said. “It’s something I need to get right, and we’ll work on these next couple bullpens, and we’ll see if we can get this thing turned around… I rely on my fastball. I throw it more than another pitch. I throw it a great deal. When it’s not there, it really makes it tough for me to do what I want to do. That was the case tonight.”

As he creeps closer to 150 innings, it’s natural to wonder whether this might have something to do with fatigue. Both Hughes and Girardi say that’s not the case.

Hughes: “It’s probably mechanical. Standing on the rubber, tonight especially, everything was different, every pitch. I couldn’t get in a groove. I did make a couple good pitches in a row, it left me and then I had to go find it again. It was a battle, and it’s not fun to pitch like that… It’s mechanical, finding consistency. It’s certainly not a strength or a fatigue issue.”

Girardi: “I don’t necessarily think it’s fatigue. I just think he’s been a little off. That’s my personal opinion. I think he’s been a little off and we need to get him back on track. Sometimes pitchers are going to go through that where they get to that point, sometimes it could be extra days rest that are a problem for a guy. He’s used to a certain routine. It seemed like when he was going every fifth day he was more consistent. The last couple of days he went on the sixth day. Sometimes there’s just no rhyme or reason.”

Here’s Hughes talking after last night’s game.

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61 Responses to “Hughes: “It’s certainly not a strength or a fatigue issue””

  1. Betsy September 1st, 2010 at 8:46 am

    Now I’m reminded of the game in Baltimore earlier this season where his mechanics were lousy but he only gave up 2 runs.

    Maybe it is the 6 days rest thing………..either way, they’ll figure it out.

    Later guys!

  2. pat September 1st, 2010 at 8:59 am

    One of the Rays proposed new stadium locations was by Raymond James Stadium which is across the street from GMS Field. Maybe that has some impact on a possible Yankees move to Orlando?

    I would imagine the Yankees would want a new facility in Orlando if they were making the move. One that would be in a setting that could incorporate lodging (Hal’s specialty), restaurants, retail and other entertainment options to attract tourists and locals alike for before and after games.

    Johnny Damon might pay the Yankees to play for them if they moved to Orlando! :wink:

  3. GreenBeret7 September 1st, 2010 at 9:04 am

    pat, who actually owns GMS stadium? The family or the city?

  4. Erin September 1st, 2010 at 9:07 am

    If they move to Orlando for ST, then they really could go to Disney World for their team outing!! ;)

  5. Tom in N.J. September 1st, 2010 at 9:09 am

    GB, The Tampa Sports Authority owns the field.

  6. MTU September 1st, 2010 at 9:10 am

    Morning.

    Phil Hughes tribute # 16, International-style.

    We all know it’s a jungle out there.

    http://picasaweb.google.com/cy.....K2h4OUtQE#

    :)

  7. GreenBeret7 September 1st, 2010 at 9:11 am

    They could build a little town to move to…call it Muppetville? Pedroia could be among his own kind when Boston visits.

  8. GreenBeret7 September 1st, 2010 at 9:13 am

    Oh, ok. Thanks, Tom. Then there won’t be a sentimental attachment to the park for the family.

  9. CountryClub September 1st, 2010 at 9:13 am

    It’s all part of the learning curve. Good job, Phil.

  10. Erin September 1st, 2010 at 9:13 am

    GreenBeret7 September 1st, 2010 at 9:11 am
    They could build a little town to move to?call it Muppetville? Pedroia could be among his own kind when Boston visits.

    *****************************
    Love it. Only don’t mix in Pedroia with the Muppets. That’s just wrong. ;)

  11. igotid88 September 1st, 2010 at 9:13 am

    I’ve mentioned Phil pitching on extra rest the last couple of starts.

  12. Erin September 1st, 2010 at 9:15 am

    MTU-great pictures! Are those from your recent trip?

  13. GreenBeret7 September 1st, 2010 at 9:16 am

    Sorry, Erin. I guess that’s like showing a kid a shiney new bike and then giving it to the most hated kid on the block, huh?

  14. Erin September 1st, 2010 at 9:17 am

    GB-exactly.

  15. MTU September 1st, 2010 at 9:18 am

    Erin-

    No. I wish. I’ve ben digitizing some older stuff. Apologize for the quality. 1990. Way before the digital photography age.

    I call that spot “the Hand of G-d”. :)

  16. SJ44 September 1st, 2010 at 9:22 am

    Take a look at Cliff Lee’s last four starts and you will see why the collective angst by both the media and fans for Phil Hughes is a waste of time.

    He’s doing just fine. He’s having an excellent year and is learning and growing on the job.

    All players hit rough patches during a season. Hughes shouldn’t be held to the ridiculously high standard some have for him.

    It makes no sense.

  17. MTU September 1st, 2010 at 9:29 am

    SJ-

    I’ll take 16-6 each and every season. ;)

  18. GreenBeret7 September 1st, 2010 at 9:30 am

    SJ, nothing better for a young player to succeed while “struggling” and learning at the same time. He’s doing something right if he’s figuring it out on the fly when things aren’t going according to script. A lot of veteran pitchers have yet to figure that trick out. Yanks have one of those.

  19. Joe from Long Island September 1st, 2010 at 9:31 am

    Good mornnig, all. Before I start the day’s work, a few thoughts –

    1. Despite all the trials of August, they finished in 1st place, where they started. Not too shabby, and better than anyone else.

    2. Winning when you have your best stuff is easy. Winning when you don’t is hard. Phil threw more off speed stuff, didn’t have good command of FB, and still found a way to win. That’s what you want, pitchers who can win games, no?

    3. SJ – do you have any insight into why Lee is having a rough spot? It’s easy to say it’s psychologic letdown, after not getting traded to NY, but he’s a professional, so I’m not sure I buy that.

    4. Re: Orlando making an announcement abuot a ML team – I can’t see the Steinbrenner family turning their back on the city of Tampa, not with all they’ve done for the city and them making their home there. I could be wrong, of course, but I don’t see it.

  20. K-V-C September 1st, 2010 at 9:31 am

    It an attitude/aggressiveness problem. All the Yanks pitchers, except Mo and CC are getting two strikes and then nibbling. I blame Eiland. Hughes, Joba and even Moseley are regressing every outing. They are throwing too many pitches and not attacking the strike zone.

  21. JM September 1st, 2010 at 9:31 am

    I like the way Phil battled last night. It was clear from the get-go that he didn’t have great control of the fastball and was struggling. But he managed to limit the damage. Yes, I realize the A’s are a light-hitting team and things might have been different against Toronto, for example.

    But still I really like Phil’s presence on the mound. He doesn’t get rattled easily. Reminds me a bit of Andy Pettite.

  22. tyanksfan36 September 1st, 2010 at 9:35 am

    I would hate if the Yankees moved to Orlando for ST or moved their training facility. Right now I live about 30 minutes from GMS field. I go to tampa yankee games all the time and wouldn’t be able to do that if they moved.

  23. GreenBeret7 September 1st, 2010 at 9:37 am

    MTU, I had hughes penciled in for 12-14 wins this year and a low 4 ERA. I was perfectly happy with that. I was also thinking that for Vazquez, Pettitte and Burnett. I figured on 70 wins for the starting 5, thinking that would win the East. I missed on two and surpassed the other two.

  24. JCPD September 1st, 2010 at 9:37 am

    OK MTU, here’s my corresponding tribute again. Funny thing, I was going to use my waterfalls as his tribute. Next time maybe.

    http://picasaweb.google.com/10.....7u54Cl9wE#

  25. SJ44 September 1st, 2010 at 9:39 am

    The pitching coach doesn’t teach lack of aggression.

    No pitching coach does, especially Eiland.

    In fact, Hughes wasn’t nibbling at all last night.

    He did what he usually does…..attack hitters.

    His command was off. It happens from time to time.

    Joe,

    I think it’s a combination of three things with Lee:

    1. The heat. He doesn’t like pitching in extreme heat and affected both his stamina and command.

    2. With his command affected, balls are drifting toward the middle of the plate and hitters are making him pay for those mistakes.

    3. Just my own theory but, I think all the moving around and impending free agency talk has also played a bit of a role. Snapping at a radio host is out of character for him. I think all of this stuff is in his and it’s tough to pitch when distracted a bit.

  26. blake September 1st, 2010 at 9:40 am

    Hughes has consistently given the Yankees a chance to win this season. That’s how he has 16 wins. That’s the most important measure of a pitcher to me…how consistently does the team have a chance at winning when pitcher X pitches.

  27. JM September 1st, 2010 at 9:43 am

    It would be nice if AJ could give the team a chance to win tonight.

  28. MTU September 1st, 2010 at 9:47 am

    GB-

    Can’t see how anyone could be even slightly disappointed in what Hughes has accomplished this year. Just wait till his OJT is completed.

    Great way to start (no pun) a career.

    JCPD-

    You just had to show me up again didn’t you.

    Those falls make Niagra look like a dripping faucet. One of the wonders of the world. We took a boat ride into the basin at the bottom of the “Devil’s throat”. It was the experience of a lifetime seeing Brazil.

  29. blake September 1st, 2010 at 9:48 am

    JM,
    Yes it would. If he throws strikes and gets ahead of this lineup he should be able to do that….hopefully.

  30. Squeakz September 1st, 2010 at 9:49 am

    All I’m gonna say is you don’t win 16 games being lucky…

  31. Bronx Jeers September 1st, 2010 at 9:50 am

    MTU,

    The “Hand of G-d” has certainly been kind to Argentina on at least two occasions one being Iguaza and the other in the 86′ World Cup.

    I went to Buenos Aires last year. That’s a great city.

  32. JCPD September 1st, 2010 at 9:52 am

    MTU, I’m not showing you up, just adding!!! I imagine niagara would look like a dripping faucet compared to that. Funny thing, Niagara isn’t even the tallest falls here in NY. There’s one taller about 45 minutes from me. I’ll post that in a future waterfall tribute. Of course you can always see it at my website.

  33. Erica in NY September 1st, 2010 at 9:54 am

    GB7-

    Are you out there?

  34. Robin September 1st, 2010 at 9:54 am

    Did anyone else shake their head when they found out that the Dodgers pulled Lilly back off waivers, when the Yankees claimed him?

    Surely they wouldn’t have pulled Lilly back if the Twins or Rangers had claimed him.

    I just can’t get over the fact that so many teams will not deal with us outta some form of hatred.

  35. MTU September 1st, 2010 at 9:54 am

    Jeers-

    You’re just a travellin’ fool aren’t yuh.

    Surfin’ in Ecuador. Dinner in Buenos Aires. What’s next Mr. Bond ? :)

  36. MTU September 1st, 2010 at 9:57 am

    JCPD-

    A Waterfall tribute for one of Phil’s wins would be Phantastic.

  37. pat September 1st, 2010 at 9:59 am

    “I can?t see the Steinbrenner family turning their back on the city of Tampa, not with all they?ve done for the city and them making their home there. I could be wrong, of course, but I don?t see it.”

    I thought about that too.

    The mayor didn’t say the press conference was baseball related just that it involved a baseball family.

    Does Orlando have a professional soccer team?

    There have been rumors that the Steinbrenners were looking to buy/own a soccer team.

  38. BronxBorn September 1st, 2010 at 10:07 am

    Hi Guys,

    This is the article: http://www.wftv.com/news/24834014/detail.html

    I must admit I find it tough to believe the Yanks would leave Tampa. Especially after they named the field after George last year. There is a lot of emotional attachment to the area.

  39. Andrew September 1st, 2010 at 10:07 am

    The soccer rumors were Hank looking to get into the English Premiere League with potential target of Tottenham Hotspur, but that seems to have died down. Orlando has no professional soccer team.

  40. CountryClub September 1st, 2010 at 10:08 am

    According to the article, the Yankees will still use Tampa as their off season home/training facility. The minor league Tampa team is the one that may move to Orlando.

  41. GreenBeret7 September 1st, 2010 at 10:10 am

    Erica in NY September 1st, 2010 at 9:54 am
    GB7-

    Are you out there?

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    Yes, I’m here, but, I’m afraid of you after making the Muppetville remark. You aren’t going to beat me up, are you?

  42. Patrick September 1st, 2010 at 10:12 am

    Hughes is in a little slump right now but he really pitched like a seasoned pitcher last night. He had bad command, was getting no help from the umpires yet he still grinded through the game and got a win.

    The bottom line is, if I told you in April that Phil Hughes would be 16-6 with a 4.10 ERA on September 1, what would you say? He’s having a great season and it’s only going to get better from here.

  43. CountryClub September 1st, 2010 at 10:12 am

    “What will be announced is that there is an agreement to discuss moving,” said Yankees spokeswoman Alice McGillion.

    The major league New York Yankees will continue to train at Steinbrenner Field, McGillion said.

    Hillsborough County Commissioner Jim Norman helped push through the deal to build Steinbrenner Field. “Contractually, a major league team must be there,” said Norman. “The Tampa Yankees are not under contract.”

    http://www.abcactionnews.com/d.....es-to-town

  44. Patrick September 1st, 2010 at 10:14 am

    It kind of speaks to how good Cliff Lee is that there is a panic around baseball when he has one down month. Even with the recent slump he’s in, Lee is still probably the most valuable pitcher in the AL.

  45. Erica in NY September 1st, 2010 at 10:15 am

    GB7-

    No, not at all silly :-)

    I actually have a question for you, I am not comfortable discussing on the blog. If I e-mail Chad and ask him to give you my e-mail addy, will you write me?

  46. Erica in NY September 1st, 2010 at 10:16 am

    Patrick September 1st, 2010 at 10:12 am

    The bottom line is, if I told you in April that Phil Hughes would be 16-6 with a 4.10 ERA on September 1, what would you say? He?s having a great season and it?s only going to get better from here
    ************

    Considering our “fifth starter” is acting more like our “number two starter”, I really don’t think we can complain at all. :-)

  47. GreenBeret7 September 1st, 2010 at 10:20 am

    Sure, Erica, or just ask him for mine. I promise not to whisper sweet muppet nothings in your ear this time.

  48. Robin September 1st, 2010 at 10:20 am

    # Patrick September 1st, 2010 at 10:14 am

    It kind of speaks to how good Cliff Lee is that there is a panic around baseball when he has one down month. Even with the recent slump he’s in, Lee is still probably the most valuable pitcher in the AL.
    —————————————————————————————-
    I think part of the panic is Lee was anointed as the “chosen one” that could knock off Goliath in the playoffs. Now they’re panicking that no one will stand in the Yankees way.

  49. stuckey99 September 1st, 2010 at 10:22 am

    I genuinely think some of the Hughes “angst” is fueled by the fact Clay Buchholz has a 2-something ERA in Boston.

    Some Yankee fans can stomach being one-upped by Boston in anything. For some reason some fans links them (young, high-ceiling righthanders in an otherwise veteran rotation) and feel Boston is out in front right now.

  50. Erica in NY September 1st, 2010 at 10:24 am

    GreenBeret7 September 1st, 2010 at 10:20 am
    I promise not to whisper sweet muppet nothings in your ear this time.
    ***************

    :lol:

    Done.

  51. blake September 1st, 2010 at 10:29 am

    Laptop didn’t win 16+ games when he was 24.

  52. stuckey99 September 1st, 2010 at 10:30 am

    So, who’s got a prediction for what Manny does in Fenway this weekend?

    Could be an all-time laser-show, as Pedroia likes to put it.

  53. Patrick September 1st, 2010 at 10:36 am

    That would so awesome if Manny goes wild in Boston and just lights them up

  54. Jerkface September 1st, 2010 at 10:39 am

    Buchholz is the chien-ming wang of the Red Sox. How does he get away with not striking anybody out.

  55. upstate kate September 1st, 2010 at 10:42 am

    really? I always thought of Dice k as being Boston’s CMW

  56. pat September 1st, 2010 at 10:45 am

    For years every baseball commentator has said Alex’s swing is in sync when he’s driving the ball to right center.

    Buried in Joel Sherman’s article today is K. Long saying Alex’s swing is in sync when he’s “making contact out front and pulling the ball to left-center in the air”.

    I feel so lied to. :sad:

  57. hardwired7 September 1st, 2010 at 10:50 am

    How’s this for perspective from Burnett (when asked about his recent struggles):

    “Ain’t no worse than June”

    that’s setting the bar pretty low, A.J., considering your #s in June were the worst for a starting pitcher in the history of the Yankees.

  58. Wave Your Hat September 1st, 2010 at 10:51 am

    “Buchholz is the chien-ming wang of the Red Sox. How does he get away with not striking anybody out.”

    He is keeping the ball in the ballpark.

  59. JM September 1st, 2010 at 10:58 am

    # blake September 1st, 2010 at 10:29 am

    Laptop didn’t win 16+ games when he was 24.
    _______________________

    Laptops is having a great season, no doubt. Still, maybe I am foolish, but in the long run I’ll still take Phil over Clay.

  60. Joe from Long Island September 1st, 2010 at 10:59 am

    Agreement to discuss moving? Sounds to me as if the Yanks are looking for some improvements around Steinbrenner Field. Things to increase their revenues, perhaps?

  61. Erin September 1st, 2010 at 11:01 am

    New Post: Finding a job for three new guys

    :arrow:


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