Game 136: Yankees vs. Blue Jays
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Gameday Thread on Sep 04, 2010 
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YANKEES (85-50)
Brett Gardner LF
Derek Jeter SS
Mark Teixeira 1B
Robinson Cano 2B
Marcus Thames RF
Lance Berkman DH
Curtis Granderson CF
Eduardo Nunez 3B
Francisco Cervelli C
RHP Javier Vazquez (10-9, 4.86)
Vazquez vs. Blue Jays
BLUE JAYS (69-65)
Dewayne Wise RF
Aaron Hill 2B
Jose Bautista 3B
Vernon Wells CF
Lyle Overbay 1B
John Buck C
Adam Lind DH
John McDonald SS
Travis Snider LF
LHP Marc Rzepczynski (1-3, 6.03)
Rzepczynski vs. Yankees
TIME/TV: 1:05 p.m. / YES Network
UMPIRES: HP Ed Hickox, 1B Fieldin Culbreth, 2B Jim Wolf, 3B Gary Cederstrom
WEATHER: Beautiful day. Not too hot. A lot of sunshine. The flags up top are showing a hard wind blowing out. It’s supposed to be pretty windy today, so it could get interesting.
FAMILIAR SPOT: For the second year in a row, the Yankees are the major’s first team to reach 85 wins.
WELCOME BACK: Javier Vazquez is returning to the rotation, having pitched his way back after a demotion to the bullpen. “I’m sure he’s thought about it, and he’s doing what he’s accustomed to doing, which is starting ball games,” Joe Girardi said. “I wouldn’t put too much pressure on this one start. It’s not something I want him to do. We want him to be a starter for us and we just thought we’d have him take a little break and work on those things he did out of the bullpen, and it seemed to really help him. I’m not going to make too much of today’s start.”
MINOR SUCCESS: High-A Tampa locked up a playoff spot last night, meaning the Yankees top three affiliates will advance to the postseason.
HARD TO BEAT THAT: This is part of an email I received from Russell late last night:
Has there ever been more (Scrabble) value in two opposing pitchers? They BOTH have two Z’s in their last names and Javy has a Q to boot. Rzepczynski has 40 points to his last name. Vazquez has 37 points. I have no idea how to search for higher scrabble point totals by last name — baseball-reference does not yet have that feature. But I find it hard to imagine you could find another matchup in MLB history worth more than 77 points.
So, you know, there’s that.
UPDATE, 1:31 p.m.: Not a lot of boos but a few when the Blue Jays first hit of the day left the park for a solo homer to right. It’s 1-0 on the Overbay solo shot.
UPDATE, 1:34 p.m.: Few more boos now that McDonald got a ball off the foul pole for a two-run shot that has given the Blue Jays a 3-0 lead.
UPDATE, 1:44 p.m.: Dustin Moseley getting loose after a lead-off walk in the third inning.
UPDATE, 2:03 p.m.: RBI double by Jeter. Two-run single by Cano. It’s a 3-3 game in the bottom of the third.
UPDATE, 2:34 p.m.: RBI ground out by Gardner. Run-scoring wild pitch. Just like that, it’s a 5-3 Yankees lead. A couple of doubles by Francisco Cervelli have made a huge difference today.
UPDATE, 2:50 p.m.: For the second day in a row, Girardi goes to the bullpen with two outs in the fifth inning. Vazquez was clearly not happy to see Girardi come out of the dugout. Here’s Moseley to try to strand runners at the corners.
UPDATE, 2:54 p.m.: A curious move for Girardi, and it doesn’t work out at all. Moseley allowed a two-run double that has tied the game at 5.
UPDATE, 3:30 p.m.: Bautista seemed to have a legit gripe there. He’s ejected after arguing a called strike three that was clearly outside, and that could be a break for the Yankees. Not facing him in a tied game seems to be a good thing.
UPDATE, 3:31 p.m.: Chopper up the middle and off Joba Chamberlain’s glove for an inning-ending double play. Another good break for the Yankees.
UPDATE, 3:43 p.m.: Marcus Thames. Again. A two-out, two-run home run for a 7-5 Yankees lead in the seventh. Even the most optimistic Thames supporter could not have predicted he’d have this kind of impact.
UPDATE, 3:48 p.m.: Ramiro Pena to third. Greg Golson to right.
Rzepczynski is too long, illegal word play.
Thames in RF will likely be better than Thames in LF. RF is much smaller and easier to play at the Stadium than LF.
To be honest, RF in the stadium doesn’t require that much range to play because many balls over your head are going to be out of the park.
I’d guess this might be a day when the Yankees really try to take advantage of the fact that they play two plus defensive CF in the outfield. They can shade Granderson to help out Thames and essentially tell Gardner to play LF aggressively, to play LF almost as if he were really playing CF.
The issue is that such a tactic would ideally require some practice and work to put into place. A last minute switch isn’t ideal.
It’s very difficult to know how the trade off will work. Thames has been red hot so it’s tempting to get both his and berkman’s bat into the lineup.
On the flip side, not only is Javy a fly ball pitcher, the Jays are a fly ball hitting team with significant LH power.
Girardi is probably betting that given the Jays power, tough fly balls to RF have a high probability of turning into home runs and it doesn’t matter as much who is playing RF.
“LHP Marc Rzepczynski (1-3, 6.03)”
Frightening.
This will not bode well for our offense.
Javy vs the Jays at YS with the wind blowing out… this will be a real test.
ruby
are you trying for stupidest post of the day?
Erica might know how to find Scrabble values.
Maybe this means that Javy will be put in the bullpen for the playoffs. It seems as if he pitches better coming out of the pen then starting…
Ruby Tuesday, you are the worst troll is the history of trolldom-the Yankees crushed Rzepczynski in Toronto.
the over/under on HRs today has to be at least 6 with the way the wind is blowing…
are the Red Sox playing a doubleheader today?
Which is the bad sun field. Right or Left. I think in the old stadium it was vicious in Left? Is that still true?
Which is the bad sun field. Right or Left. I think in the old stadium it was vicious in Left? Is that still true?
it’s going to be a good day if Javy pitches like this for the next 6 innings
syd
yes, they are playing now and have another game tonight
UnKnown, the sun field is still Left.
Well, there is only one “z” tile in a scrabble set; so the second “z” in both names would be blank tiles, which have no value. So there’s that.
Vazquez is throwing so much better than he was a few weeks ago there is no comparison-his fastball has life again and it has nothing to do with starting or relieving, it’s the mechanical changes plus some additional confidence.
Nice inning for Javy.
Great start by Javy! Good for him.
Nice 1st inning for Vazquez. His stuff was much better recently out of the bullpen and once he worked with Eiland. So hopefully stuff was his main problem and it wasn’t more mental.
I’m thinking Ruby Tuesday is a superstitious sort. Maybe?
No, Doreen. Just a troublemaker.
yay Brett!!! it’s amazing how his speed creates hits
I like when Ruby Tuesday makes predictions…he/she usually looks like a fool afterwards ..:)
It would be great to get number eight …
Go Yankees 2010 !!!
What thoughts go through a fielder’s head on those kind of grounders by Gardner?
Gardner has to be off and running before Jeter gets a chance to erase him.
Doreen,
You remember ER and California? That’s Ruby Tuesday.
He tried to explain his um, whatever you want to call them as “reverse jinxes”.
But it’s obvious what he really is.
That is a positive by Jeter to keep it off the ground
Yankees got a break there. Gardy was out.
Thanks ump lol
Trivia: Today is the 17th anniversary of Jim Abbot’s no-hitter. Maybe some good luck for Javier.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cm6VJG4mxkg
Nice steal by Gardner. Oops. Blown call.
If you’re Rumplestilsken, don’t you just say, “Let’s just go with the number”?
yup he was out,….how can the ump not see that standing right there. Oh well hopefully we get a RBI out of the freebie
poor Robbie…why won’t Girardi give him a day off…he’s given Jeter a day off recently
Cano continues with the bad swings.
And Rzepczynski has a shut out going. You were saying?
cano really needs a day off.
Look at that horrible 3-1 change up Teixeira swung at. He was guessing that Rzepczynski would throw him the same pitch he threw on 3-0 – a two seamer away.
The timing on Tex’s swing is so narrow, that he was unable to wait long enough to recognize that it wasn’t a two seamer but a change up that wasn’t going to be close to a strike.
The last couple of days Cano has taken the weakest swings. Waiting until Arod comes off the dl to give him a day off makes no sense. It also isn’t fair to Cano.
Go back and find the number of shut outs after the first inning. In all of baseball. Then come back and tell us what you find.
CB September 4th, 2010 at 1:27 pm
Look at that horrible 3-1 change up Teixeira swung at. He was guessing that Rzepczynski would throw him the same pitch he threw on 3-0 – a two seamer away.
The timing on Tex’s swing is so narrow, that he was unable to wait long enough to recognize that it wasn’t a two seamer but a change up that wasn’t going to be close to a strike.
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then he crushed the 3-2 pitch but right at Snyder. He was better off missing the change, it wasn’t a pitch he could really drive anywhere.
Overbite has always killed the Yankees.
that won’t be the last one hit out today, that’s a guarantee…
mistake there…right down the middle and up
“then he crushed the 3-2 pitch but right at Snyder. He was better off missing the change, it wasn’t a pitch he could really drive anywhere.”
He was better off not swinging at a pitch in the dirt. The issue there was his pitch recognition and how it relates to his swing. That was the exact problem he had in the post season last year.
The pitch he wound up hitting hard was a bad slider that missed it’s spot.
A shutout after one inning?
You really are a moron.
The Yankee pitchers have to keep the ball down to Overbay!! Especially today with the wind Vazquez has to keep the ball down. Now a 4 pitch walk. That is how you know it’s not just stuff with him and it’s mental also.
That home run by overbay is part of the reason why Girardi decided to play Thames in RF.
In another park with a deeper RF that ball would have been very difficult to play.
In yankee stadium with that short porch if the ball is over your head as a RF there’s a good chance it’s gone and there’s nothing to defend.
Ugh. Guess the improvements lasted one inning.
Ruby Tuesday September 4th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
And Rzepczynski has a shut out going. You were saying?
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Rzepczynski has as much of a chance throwing a shutout against the Yankees as one of your stupid comments has of being correct. You have a worse record than a broken clock.
Vazquez is a joke. Just like AJ. Homerun or something goes bad and he completely loses it. Bad body language and afraid of the strike zone. Just pathetic.
and that’s how things go from fine 1 hr to…walking someone and giving up another homerun
back to the pen.
Two terrible pitches right down broadway….
Captain Clutch September 4th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
Vazquez is a joke. Just like AJ. Homerun or something goes bad and he completely loses it. Bad body language and afraid of the strike zone. Just pathetic.
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Yup seems like they both have the same deal with that. Give up one run and lose it all of a sudden. Yesterday we saw Nova give up some runs and keep it together and have a productive day….ridiculous Vasquez and Burnett
Thats embarassing….McDonald is trash
Javy’s getting under the ball again much more frequently this inning. He did it a couple of times in the first but the blue jays were so aggressive it wasn’t an issue.
Right now though he’s not consistently staying on top and that’s why he’s throwing those cement mixer sliders that are getting crushed.
He just has not repeated his delivery consistently this year and it’s killed him.
Two terrible pitches by Vasquez – right down broadway
I’m beginning to think that Dave Eiland and Joe G. are full of crap when they claim that they fix a pitcher – because their “fixes” don’t ever seem to take. Javy. AJ. Etc. Does Eiland even have a clue?
That’s the Javy we know n hate. Face it. He stinks. Keep him in pen when Andy is back
it sure doesn’t take much for the whiners and complainers to go back to their roots. If the Jays score one more run they’ll be calling for Vazquez to be pelted with eggs.
Cano looked really tired at that AB. I hope he gets a day off tomorrow with Arod hopefully coming back. Doesn’t make sense why he didn’t rest him today, its not like he has been red hot.
They should of kept Javy in the bullpen. He was actually pitching well as a long man. Hopefully Nova will be good in his next start. And they eventually give Javy spot to Pettitte when he returns.
Nova > Javy
It’s really pretty clear.
I say Javy is lucky to pitch into the 5th inning.
But well – they were due a stinker and this game might be it.
But still 7 innings to come back
Nice. 6 pitches. The Yanks must be double parked again.
nothing like a 6 pitch inning
Javy’s due a stinker every time he starts.
that’s the type of inning the yankees havent had much of during the winning streak and we would not like to see again.
I am not among the whiners or complainers, but Javy needs to show some consistency in order to remain in this rotation for the rest of the season. He probably won’t be there in the playoffs anyway.
Could be kind of a sluggish games for the Yankees today. Can’t win them all.
That was a pathetic inning by the Yankee bats. Thames swings 2-0 at a pitch he can’t drive, Berkman swings at the 1st pitch and Granderson 2nd. Some patient at bats against a 6 era pitcher would be nice.
Oh, they’ll still win the game, but the hope was that Javy could start a playoff game, and alas, he can’t.
And Rzepczynski still has a shutout going.
In homeruns: Blue Jays 2; Us, 0.
You were saying?
They should get Mosley up. Javy is a mess out on the mound with his mechanics.
Almost time for the eggs.
Playoff rotation will be CC, Andy, AJ and Phil. That is the rotation that gives Yanks the best chance to win, AJ and Phil’s struggles notwithstanding.
Signing Javy is a disaster. anyone disagrees?
Nobody said anything, you started this nonsense.
Its STILL 2004 all over again with this Loser Vazquez. Nothing has changed. Once a STIFF, always a STIFF.
Can’t have too long a leash with Javy today in the wind when you have two guys in the pen that can sink the ball.
Dustin Moseley up already. Yikes.
Well, they tried. I just think it’s clear that Javy isn’t gonna cut it. Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice…won’t get fooled again.
Vazquez is only in the rotation until Andy comes back. Hopefully that is very soon. Small ballpark and Vazquez’s stuff is not a combination for success. With Vazquez you could see most of it is mental. He was very aggressive the 1st inning and as soon as he gave up the homerun to Overbay he was scared to throw strikes. The Yanks can’t leave him in the rotation he is a mess.
I disagree. They only gave up Melky, and he did give them a stretch of 15 good games or so. He’s not quite the innings eater they expected, but I would not consider him to be a total disaster.
looks like Javy is on a short leash
“Signing Javy is a disaster. anyone disagrees?”
The trade? I wouldn’t have made the it because I like Vizcaino, but there was a reasonable basis for making the move (i.e., a risk worth taking given their business model and the innings load of CC, Andy, and AJ last season), and I wouldn’t be surprised if Javy has a good year for an NL next season.
he had such a good first inning…..what happened??????? Back to the bullpen for Javy just leave him there he’s better out of the pen
Vazquez better stay away from Bautista here. When he sees a fastball he swings out of his shoes.
# TheStraw September 4th, 2010 at 1:44 pm
Playoff rotation will be CC, Andy, AJ and Phil. That is the rotation that gives Yanks the best chance to win, AJ and Phil’s struggles notwithstanding.
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Not sure they’re gonna throw 2 lefties and 2 righties in a row. Our philosophy (and it’s a common one) is to break up lefties and righties when possible so that the batters don’t get too comfortable. But you might be right, because Phil’s been struggling, and AJ is Jekyll and Hyde. So we’ll see.
It’s not mental with Vazquez unless you think “mental” issues are causing his mechanics to be a mess.
Watch the way he throws the ball. Watch his arm. He’s not consistent with how his arm action is.
No pitcher can be successful that way.
And with Vazquez the mechanical issues are obvious and glaring. They stick out like a sore thumb.
what the hell is Bautista starring down Vasquez for after the strikeout
Bautista’s wild swings at off speed pitches is really funny to watch. He has no chance at anything but a fastball.
Choke-
So flip AJ and Andy. That would be like last years rotation anyhow.
#The Straw: I’m not sure where that stretch of 15 games was. He’s only had 10 “quality starts” out of 23.
It’ll be nice to see vazquez off the team next year – almost as bad a decison to bring him back as it was the nick DL johnson signing..
what did mosely do wrong to get demoted to the bullpen – i didn’t pitching better than vazquez will get you demoted?
only cashman could come up with a decison like that
# syd_cash September 4th, 2010 at 1:49 pm
what the hell is Bautista starring down Vasquez for after the strikeout
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Why does Bautista do anything he does? Simple answer: He’s a prick.
CB September 4th, 2010 at 1:49 pm
It’s not mental with Vazquez unless you think “mental” issues are causing his mechanics to be a mess.
Watch the way he throws the ball. Watch his arm. He’s not consistent with how his arm action is.
No pitcher can be successful that way.
And with Vazquez the mechanical issues are obvious and glaring. They stick out like a sore thumb.
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CB, we both know that logic and informed analysis come in 2nd behind complaining, whining, and overreacting here
both AJ and Phil pitches better at home…since they prolly won’t let the kid start game 2 of a playoff series AJ will prolly start game two Andy 3 and Phil 4
Bad decision to put vaz in the rotation again.
He has shown that he can’t get the job done & now with 27 games left in the season something is going too change?
Mosely is not that good but i liked the fact that he gives us a chance too win every time out,just like nova,that is what you are looking for til pettitte gets back.
Girardi has done a great jobs on a lot of things,most things in fact from resting older players & a great job in managing the pen but things were working by taking vaz out of the rotation & it got us on a nice run that is needed.
Vaz is a perfect long man,should of been left in the pen.
bautista is just pissed because everyone can hit a homerun off javy and all he does is strike out.
He looked better that inning.
Bautista seems to be a beast. I wouldn’t want to have to pitch to him.
# TheStraw September 4th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
Choke-
So flip AJ and Andy. That would be like last years rotation anyhow.
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That’s what I was thinking, too. Having AJ in a game two scares the bejeezus out of me, but at this point, we just have to suck it up and hope “Game 2 of the World Series” AJ shows up.
both AJ and Phil pitches better at home
Phil has pitched better on the road:
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....erId=28638
That was a much better inning.
Please correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t Logan come from Atlanta in the Javy deal? If so, then that tips the scale in our favor. Logan’s been a boon to the bullpen.
Once the Yanks get a lead …we can all start singing …”Goodbye Ruby Tuesday”…
Go Yankees 2010 !!!
I guess the complaining on here is to be expected considering we’ve lost 7 in a row.
Mosley walked way too many hitters for the kind of pitcher he is. He kept them in games but he was getting lucky. And in that last start you could see that teams had finally started paying attention to him and establishing a plan of attack.
Mosley’s command has not been good and unless that changes it’s only a matter of time before he blows up.
the Yankees are killing me with these at bats
Cervelli got very, very lucky! Let’s go, bats.
Cervelli got lucky there with a bad decision.
Yes M …we did get Logan and he has been a BIG part of the bp especially since we lost Marte.
He’s our go to Lefty …
Go Yankees 2010 !!
There is a fine line between being aggressive and stupid…. This time it worked out for Cervi
cervelli is bringing his average back up.
that fastball to Wells missed the target by about 18 inches, he really wasn’t much better there. He is what he is and that’s not nearly as bad as some of you think. He’s not a top of the rotation guy at this point in his career (and realistically, he never was) but he is capable of decent outings. The 2nd HR was a foul pole job, it wasn’t exactly a rocket and that was 2 runs.
wow risky by Cervelli…lucky that paid off…maybe we can get a run in
Stupid. Lucky.
” If so, then that tips the scale in our favor.”
It depends on the time horizon for assessing the deal. If Vizcaino becomes a #2 or #3 then no.
Vizcaino?
CB, we both know that logic and informed analysis come in 2nd behind complaining, whining, and overreacting here
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Very true.
But there still are some people who bring both logic and informed analysis here which makes it worth reading (even if not commenting about them), at least.
Double play time.
Down 3-0 with the top of the order coming up, Cervelli decides to take an extra base against an outfielder who has an absolute gun for an arm.
The outcome worked out due to luck, but that’s just not the kind of thought process you want to see out of a player. Catcher’s in particular should have a deeper understanding of the game.
Down 3-0 the yankees need baserunners and to avoid making outs. The risk was not worth it.
oh boy double pay Derek is up…. :/
Gardners been walking a lot lately, it seems.
Did the ump just look at Gardner to make that call on ball 4?
Let’s go, Jeter.
Oh god, please stop whining everyone. Let Javier have a few innings before you crucify him.
*play
Yay, Jeter.
It’s not mental with Vazquez unless you think “mental” issues are causing his mechanics to be a mess.
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I think his mechanics change because he thinks too much on the mound and tries to do too much and that makes his arm angle move. He was fine in the 1st inning and after the homerun was back to nibbling and trying to hit corners. He did made good pitches to Bautista and Wells so let’s see which Vazquez starts the 4th inning.
great job derek
syd_cash September 4th, 2010 at 1:57 pm
oh boy double pay Derek is up…. :/
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stick it, whiner…
Yes, first pitch swinging!
alright i take that back…..
Jeet did it, I was worried about a GIDP, but he came through.
Right now, Tex is absolutely who I’d want up here.
MG,
I think (think) syd was being sarcastic :/ there.
Wow, Jeter’s first 2B since August 20th, per Kay.
Prospects are prospects. It was still a good deal at the time. Or do you not remember Joba’s struggles last year in the rotation?
Rumors of Jeter’s demise are greatly exaggerated.
Captain Clutch September 4th, 2010 at 1:58 pm
It’s not mental with Vazquez unless you think “mental” issues are causing his mechanics to be a mess.
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I think his mechanics change because he thinks too much on the mound and tries to do too much and that makes his arm angle move. He was fine in the 1st inning and after the homerun was back to nibbling and trying to hit corners. He did made good pitches to Bautista and Wells so let’s see which Vazquez starts the 4th inning
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His arm angle was shifting in the 1st inning as well.
Down 3-0 with the top of the order coming up, Cervelli decides to take an extra base against an outfielder who has an absolute gun for an arm.
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Agree. 99% of the time he would be thrown out at 2nd base. It wouldn’t of been pretty and really stupid if he was out.
Trying to figure out a player’s mental state is to embark on a slippery slope.
A Robbie HR here would end those ‘Robbie looks exhausted’ posts for at least 2 innings…
wow….missed by a lot…here is a good opportunity for Robbie to get back in a groove
What in God’s name was Robbie swinging at there?
Robbie needs to swing at strikes.
Come on Cano!! Swing at strikes…
A single up the middle will probably do more to get Cano out of a slump than a HR.
Much better, Robbie. Much better.
Haha Cano wanting the baseball. That is classic. Love that Guy
Nice slump breaking single for Robbie.
love it Robbie!!!! even at 0-13 i trust him in a big spot
Funny move asking for the baseball. lol
Good stuff.
Nice job of not trying to hit it out of the park. So cute, joking around asking for the ball.
I guess Robbie needed to be in the lineup today after all. And where is that noted prognosticator, the successor to Nostradamus, Ruby Tuesday?
Go Cano!!! Tired and all he comes threw. Now bring his bed to 1st base so he can rest.
Down 3-0 with the top of the order coming up, Cervelli decides to take an extra base against an outfielder who has an absolute gun for an arm.
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I wonder that he also seems to have regressed defensively. Is it regression or was he playing over his head last year and is being exposed for the flaws in his game by more playing time?
Funny move asking for the baseball. lol
Winfieldian?
Highest-Scrabble-scoring last names in history
Marc Rzepczynski 40
Jim Czajkowski 39
Carlos Velazquez 39
Freddie Velazquez 39
Gil Velazquez 39
Now …. technically, you can’t spell any of those last names with a standard English Scrabble set without blanks. The highest-scoring last names that CAN be spelled with a standard English Scrabble set, without blanks:
Steve Wojciechowski 37
Mike Jerzembeck 36
Good, at least we won’t lose to the Blow Jays by a shutout.
“I think his mechanics change because he thinks too much on the mound and tries to do too much and that makes his arm angle move. He was fine in the 1st inning”
Actually he wasn’t fine in the first inning. He just got away with his mistakes.
And it’s not his arm angle that’s changing.
His front side is opening faster than his backside and his arm lags his body. It’s been that way the entire year.
He was doing that in the first inning as well. Go back and rewatch that inning. In particular you’ll see a few fastball’s that were around 85-86. Those were the pitches were he was blatantly doing the same thing he was in the inning where he got hit around – he was getting under the ball and pushing it.
So the idea that game conditions caused his mental state to change which made his mechanics change doesn’t hold.
He’s not repeating his mechanics. That’s primarily a physical skill. It’s an issue he’s also dealt with frequently in his career due to the way he throws.
almost thought for a moment there that Thames had it….just missed….
Highest-Scrabble-scoring last names in history
You forgot Doug M to Z.
Cano is fine he is a young guy. He isn’t old like Jeter or A-Rod. He should be playing everyday.
ahh thames just misseed it
Berkman should never be allowed to bat righthanded.
Wow. Berkman looks REALLY bad hitting right handed. Really bad.
Berkman should give up switch hitting. His right handed swings are ugly.
Berkman looks like he has trouble picking the ball up batting RH.
Kearns must be hurting from HBP yesterday. Berkman is a much better LH hitter.
Mientkiewicz is only 33 points.
Now let’s see how long Vazquez can keep the game tied. Hopefully it lasts more than 1 inning.
How does Man Ram get away with not cutting that damn hair everywhere he goes. Now the palehose who have that policy are turning a blind eye to it. Cut your hair Manny
will vazquez give it right back – lets see..
Once Swisher is healthy and A-Rod is back, Berkman will only bat lefhanded.
Today they had no choice with Kearns banged up.
nothing like walking the leadoff hitter after your teammates tie the game up
Get Moseley up.
It’s amazing how much people try to generalize from one at bat from Berkman.
How many RH at bats have people seen Berkman take over his career?
Mark Teixeira has had numerous at bats just like the one Berkman just had this season. If you picked out any one of them (or a small handful of them) you could just as easily jump to similar conclusions.
Berkman is better from the left side but it’s not as if he’s completely incompetent as a RH batter either. Few switch hitters are ever equally good from both sides though.
Vasquez is afraid – Dont think one of those pitches to Overbay was a strike
Javy gets a do over! Settle in and find your groove now.
Let’s see how long Javy can hold up. Mosely, Mitre, Gaudin, Albaladejo, and Robertson can be used. Boone Logan threw only 13 pitches yesterday and Mariano just 6.
“It’s amazing how much people try to generalize from one at bat from Berkman.
How many RH at bats have people seen Berkman take over his career?”
I have watched many of his AB this year and he seems to have trouble picking up the ball batting RH.
Pull him now. The pen has been too good not to use them.
Missing location with everything.
Get Moseley in the game ASAP.
Javy has nothing today.
if Javy gives up runs right here, he should be gone.
its time to get him out of there – hope clueless joe doesn’t keep him in to build his confidence again..
Girardi has had a quick hook on the end of the rotation guys, he won’t hesitate to pull Vazquez if there’s another hit here…
In Moseley We Trust!
And we don’t trust our 10+ millions man!
base will be loaded.
this is the most frustrating part of javy. yankees put up runs, and he cannot shut is down, often times giving it right back..
wow, I am shocked! 1 more to go.
he got away with a bad pitch there to McDonald.
At this stage of Javy’s career, his mechanics have to be flawless in order to be effective because the velocity isn’t what it was.
Without clean mechanics, it’s a real struggle for him.
It’s not mental. It’s all physical.
When his mechanics are clean, he can still be an effective pitcher.
How many times has Javy gotten us a win?
I’m not talking about how many wins he has, because most of those wins were in spite of his pitching, not because of it.
Let’s just gave facts, Javy’s stuff doesn’t lend itself to pitching in this small a ballpark. He leaves pitches up and needs them to be singles, doubles @ most.
Once those high fly balls and line drives become home runs, Javy’s ability to work his way out of trouble is almost completely diminished.
“I have watched many of his AB this year and he seems to have trouble picking up the ball batting RH.”
Lance Berkman has had 71 at bats as a RH hitter this entire season nearly all of which were with the Astros.
71 at bats is nothing. That’s why I referred to his career when making generalizations about his overall skill set.
Even if you watch Houston Astros baseball religiously and happen to see every one of those 71 at bats it’s not a lot of information.
Flaherty is being refreshingly honest about Vazquez.
Javy this year has not shutdown an opponent in the next inning after the Yanks scored runs. This is a first. I would hope Girardi keeps his options open early.
got himself in and out of trouble
*face facts. I’m clearly heated over this topic.
Way to go, Javy. Can’t be burning the pen at the first sign of trouble. It’d be ashes by now.
Nice recovery–but he’s not going more than five or six innings today.
“At this stage of Javy’s career, his mechanics have to be flawless in order to be effective because the velocity isn’t what it was.
Without clean mechanics, it’s a real struggle for him.
It’s not mental. It’s all physical.
When his mechanics are clean, he can still be an effective pitcher.”
Well said. He has no margin for error at all anymore. If he’s not perfect with his throwing mechanics he’s at huge risk for the ball getting hit very hard.
He’s out there completely on guile. If anything, every out he does get is purely based on his “mental” game and experience because physically he just doens’t have much right now.
WOW!! He didn’t give up any runs..
Now get someone else up and take vazquez out of there before its too late…leave him in next inning and the jays will score 4 runs with the heart of the order coming up
Great so Vazquez has turned into Jamie Moyer. No fastball some off speed pitches and needs to be pin point with his location to get people out. Good thing he isn’t signed past this year. Andy get back soon!! Vazquez would never be successful in the play offs.
It’s a struggle, no question.
That’s why getting Andy back is so important.
If Andy comes back healthy and effective, Javy is in the pen in the post-season.
He wiggled out but it really seems like Javy is teetering on the edge of a big inning by the Jays…
“Lance Berkman has had 71 at bats as a RH hitter this entire season nearly all of which were with the Astros.”
MLB Package.
“71 at bats is nothing. That’s why I referred to his career when making generalizations about his overall skill set.”
Did I say that he shouldn’t hit v. RHP No, only that his swing v. RHP in comparison to his swing v. LHP looks to be indicative of a hitter that isn’t seeing the ball well.
“71 at bats is nothing. That’s why I referred to his career when making generalizations about his overall skill set.”
So, I’m not making an observation about his overall skill set. I’m just putting forth an observation. I don’t know if it’s accurate, or if it’s enduring.
Even if you watch Houston Astros baseball religiously and happen to see every one of those 71 at bats it’s not a lot of information.
You are basically using very little information from some short posts to overgeneralize what I’m thinking.
SJ44 September 4th, 2010 at 2:24 pm
It’s a struggle, no question.
That’s why getting Andy back is so important.
If Andy comes back healthy and effective, Javy is in the pen in the post-season.
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I would guess that Javy would probably be left off the ALDS roster if he continues to pitch the way he has today. He threw a couple of fastballs to the glove in the 1st inning and hasn’t been able to do that since. It must be really tough on him pitching like this…
“Did I say that he shouldn’t hit v. RHP”
Should be LHP.
Nunez calm down. He goes up there hacking…
Nunzio really is a hacker. He loves to swing that bat.
Javy labored this inning but did not break.
Hopefully, he will find lhis rythm from next inning.
Negative comments based on Javy today are justified upto this point.
But when some make comments without checking facts on alll his past starts, that is stupidity.
He pitched very well for many starts before he lost the velocity and demoted to BP.
CB,
That’s why the “mental midget” whine about Javy makes no sense.
He’s pitching ALL on guts right now.
You can’t be “gutless” and pitch like hrs pitching now.
In fact, the opposite is true.
He’s out there competing with diminished stuff and flawed mechanics.
That takes guts.
I can actually see a scenario where Javy comes in the 3rd inning in a post season game and pitches like 4 shut out innings to give the Yanks time to climb back into like a 5 to 0 game or something. Definitely can’t see him starting a game in October.
Hopefully Nunez touched 2nd base there
That would have been a heck of a catch.
Nice!! Have to score the runner on 3rd. At least…
“You are basically using very little information from some short posts to overgeneralize what I’m thinking.”
I have no desire to get into one of those protracted debates you involve yourself here. My original comment wasn’t even directed at you. Several people made comments about Berkman.
You for some reason seem to have taken it as some kind of slight to yourself. That wasn’t the case.
And I’m not inferring anything about what your thinking. 71 at bats isn’t a lot of information and if another poster tried to suggest that it was you’d get into some argument with them about the silliness of drawing conclusions from small samples.
i leave and comeback and its 2nd & 3rd one out…..
Crazy Cervy with 2 more doubles today somehow
Got lucky there…
I’ll take a lucky run any day.
Travis Snider looks like he was just had his Bar Mitzvah. He looks like a teenager.
Great read by Nunez to score the run.
SJ, CB,
You guys are right. Javy has nothing…some of the fastballs he’s throwing are 86 MPH…its not mental of because he is gutless or anything like that. His mechanics and stuff have left him and he’s just having to pitch with lesser weapons than he’s used to…its admirable really and I feel bad for him…but that said, he’s just not able to be very effective right now.
Vazquez’ next day to start would be Thursday, an off-day for the Yankees. It’s very possible this is his last start of the year with Andy taking his next scheduled start after that.
Crazy Nunez playing this game with reckless abandon. Almost got doubled up twice on that series of events and hacks at everything.
go Jeter
Teix could make this a 7-4 game here…
“He’s pitching ALL on guts right now.
You can’t be “gutless” and pitch like hrs pitching now.
In fact, the opposite is true. ”
It’s very ironic isn’t it? The most damning criticism of the player is the exact opposite of the truth.
I watched Javy throw quite a bit last season as he was having such a strong year. He looks nothing like he did last year. Not even remotely the same. He has so few of the tools he had last year.
Every out he gets at times is a struggle. Each out is moxie right now.
His stuff is AAAA quality stuff in terms of physical performance.
Should Jeter be running here? I say yes. If he gets in, 2 in scoring position for Tex. If he gets caught, Tex leads off next inning.
Mark has a shot here now. He will get good pitches to hit.
“I have no desire to get into one of those protracted debates you involve yourself here. ”
Yeah, I’m the only one who does that. You never do.
“You for some reason seem to have taken it as some kind of slight to yourself. That wasn’t the case.”
You made a general point about posts about Berkman. I had just posted something about Berkman, so I expanded on my post in response to your comment. You then responded by quoting that post. I think my reaction was reasonable.
“And I’m not inferring anything about what your thinking. 71 at bats isn’t a lot of information and if another poster tried to suggest that it was you’d get into some argument with them about the silliness of drawing conclusions from small samples.”
Again, I already said I wasn’t necessarily generalizing anything about Berkman going forward, but with aging players, sometimes you look for little signs. Quite often, those signs mean very little, but that’s not always the case.
SJ-
Agree. In fact, he has shown not to implode with diminished stuff, unlike AJ whose problems are definitely more mental than physical.
Here is how good this team is this year….
Today, Vazquez is walking a tightrope….
Jeter is in the worst slump of his career and a third (Arod, Swisher, and Posada) of the regular lineup is out and they have scored 5 runs in 4 innings and have the lead.
That’s pretty amazing.
ouch…if i played baseball I would wear one of those elbow protectors
if Javy can hold the lead after 6, that would be a good sign
CB September 4th, 2010 at 2:33 pm
“He’s pitching ALL on guts right now.
You can’t be “gutless” and pitch like hrs pitching now.
In fact, the opposite is true. ”
It’s very ironic isn’t it? The most damning criticism of the player is the exact opposite of the truth.
I watched Javy throw quite a bit last season as he was having such a strong year. He looks nothing like he did last year. Not even remotely the same. He has so few of the tools he had last year.
Every out he gets at times is a struggle. Each out is moxie right now.
His stuff is AAAA quality stuff in terms of physical performance.
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CB, the same ones who call Vazquez ‘gutless’ would have also called Catfish Hunter, Ed Figueroa, and Mel Stottlemyre gutless at the end of their careers. And, of course, it couldn’t be further from the truth. You can’t pitch well without the tools and Vazquez just doesn’t have them in 2010.
They don’t seem to spray that stuff as much as they used to.
Yanks showing a lot of grit on this homestand.
Tex will have a Mark.
SJ44 September 4th, 2010 at 2:27 pm
CB,
That’s why the “mental midget” whine about Javy makes no sense.
He’s pitching ALL on guts right now.
You can’t be “gutless” and pitch like hrs pitching now.
In fact, the opposite is true.
He’s out there competing with diminished stuff and flawed mechanics.
That takes guts.
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Beautifully said and spot on. There is no way I can improve or elaborate on that. You have crystallized my thoughts eloquently.
So I’ll just say “Yeah!”
“Vazquez’ next day to start would be Thursday, an off-day for the Yankees. It’s very possible this is his last start of the year with Andy taking his next scheduled start after that.”
That sounds like a plan.
Let’s hope Andy rehab goes well and they can follow through with it.
Even in the innings where he’s not giving up runs Vazquez just does’t look good. He’s not consistent with the way he’s throwing the ball at all.
I am sure Girardi will go batter to batter with Vazquez in the 5th. Guts or not it’s very hard to be perfect in this ballpark especially against a homerun hitting team.
Yankees will have some decisions to make on long relief for the playoffs. Javy, Moseley, Nova, Gaudin and Mitre all competing for two spots at most.
there is an interesting decision coming up for Girardi-CC would not face the Rays in the 1st series if he pitches in turn for his next two starts, he’d have to move back a day or 2 to be in both series. If I’m the manager that’s exactly what I’d do.
The sun is really awful in LF today.
nice catch by Gardner
I agree about it being amazing.
Cervelli has been hitting a little better & we have been bringing up some minor leaguers over the last few years that really have been helping with some really great looking ones not far off.
This team has a chance to burry the rest of the majors if we just keep the focus on pitching,lee in particular.
Over the last 8 games or so this team has taken a similar look it had in the dynasy years of the 90′s.
With the team now,their financial resources,the farm system it is scary how good they can be.
if you want to know about left field sun problems at Yankee Stadium, just look up the name ‘Norm Siebern’
Big test for Vazquez here. That 1st pitch was in a really bad location…
Javy started out that at bat by throwing Wise an 85 mph fastball.
And he was somehow able to get him out by throwing junk and changing speeds.
His stuff is horrible but he’s still gotten outs. And outs against a very dangerous team.
I really have no idea how he’s doing it. It’s purely on veteran guile.
Poor Gardner. The wind/sun must be crazy in LF today.
Nunez will eventually learn a little more self control. He’s much like a 23 year old Cano. He figures if he can reach it, he can hit it. Must be working fairly well. He was hiting .300 at AAA and hitting .290 and producing runs along with stealing bases. Defense has yet to hurt. Find a real topic to whine about….like why you feel the need to complain about everything. It’s either mental or you’re gutless.
ahhhhhhhh had him 0 and i think
I don’t think for a second that Bautista is doing anything unnatural, but I am really looking forward to seeing what he does next season.
Ah, ya gotta give Javy a chance to get the win, right? I know he could end up giving up the tying run, but you gotta give him the chance.
that kid looks sad…likes its the worst day of his life…not his birthday
Cervelli was setting up too early behind the plate with his glove against Bautista. I am sure he saw exactly where the glove was on the outside part of the plate. He has to be less obvious back there sometimes.
Pull him.
this will be Vazquez’ last batter with Overbay up next…
Okay, guys. Just one more out.
ad javy imploding as usual. he a disgrace. a gutless 5th inning.
Let’s hope that’s the last time Javy takes the mound as a starter for the Yankees.
Wish Boone was available.
jesusmonterofordh September 4th, 2010 at 2:49 pm
ad javy imploding as usual. he a disgrace. a gutless 5th inning.
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why don’t you try saying that to his face, coward…
Good move to take him out. He was getting way with a lot of mistakes, which is ok if you’re not walking batters.
yea javy looked pissed, eff him, nova showed more class when pulled after 4 2/3, take it for the team loser
This is a situation where not having a second LH reliever out of the pen hurts.
The Yankees are fortunate to have Logan. Marte may need shoulder surgery.
Without Logan they would be going into the post season with Royce Ring as their LH specialist. That would have been a big problem.
Girardi showed something.
Yesterday when he took out Nova, people, mainly mediots, were wondering if he would do it to a veteran. Girardi replied he would and he followed up today.
javy, lol
Got to get Javy out of there now.
Can’t have him face Overbay again.
Hopefully, Moseley can keep the ball in the park here.
Tough outing for Javy.
Back to back short starts.
Gonna need innings from Phil tomorrow.
MG, he’s a troll. Trolls are known to be cowardly piss bags.
4 inn from Javy again. Another solid performance. He’ll do fine in queens next yr
the extra win wont get you a better contract next year javy
That was a terrible ending for Vazquez. 2 outs and then of course more nibbling. We know he is scared of their 2 best hitters but you have to make Bautista hit the ball. If Girardi knew that was going to happen he would of taken him out before the Bautista at bat. I would be surprised if Vazquez makes another start. Flaherty was right about his stuff all game, he had nothing.
why don’t you go get him, so i can
with half the pen being long relievers, no starter is getting a long leash, especially not javy
Great job Dustin!
Why the hell do you put Moseley in there?????
Moseley not much better than Javy.
Javy is thinking he could have done that.
“yea javy looked pissed, eff him, nova showed more class when pulled after 4 2/3, take it for the team loser”
Nova “looked” exactly the same when he got taken out. If it wasn’t for his post game comments the way Nova looked could easily have seemed like he was showing up the manager.
Need the second LOOGY.
Good Chirst Almighty. Our long relief. She is not good.
tie game because javy has no b*lls.
he should never start a game for nyy again, he finished
great job Mosley out of the pen
If he’s gonna pull Javy y not go to Logan for the lefty?
Logan vs Overbay! Where are you Joe?
Not sure that I would have picked Moseley. I figured Gaudin would be the pick.
Now we can here the non-sense from the kids, or adults acting like kids, that Girardi was wrong in taking javy out.
Replacing one softtossing “pitcher” with another…
Yesterday he went to Logan – an arm he trust in a similar situation….
So why this move today?
They haven’t gotten Overbay out all year.
I think that’s his 18th extra base hit against the Yankees.
Between Bautista and Overbay, they will combine to reach base nearly 100 times against the Yankees this year.
That’s inexcusable.
New ballgame.
That three year contract that Marte signed was basically for the playoffs. He doesn’t work in the regular season.
Great, a pitch right down the middle to Overrated. This mess never would of happened if Vazquez didn’t nibble to 2 straight batters. The rotation is an absolute mess. CC is the only pitcher that is consistent and gives them 6 innings or more.
Girardi with a bonehead move not bringing Logan in for Overbay
Gee …what a great move taking Javy out and not giving him a chance for the last out. He could have done the same thing OR he could have gotten the out like he has the past few innings when he got into a jam. The grass always does seem greener on the other side of the fence …till you get there.
Let’s get some more runs the next inning ….
Go Yankees 2010 !!
what a bunch of whiners and complainers. You want Moseley starting, he comes in and gives up a hit and you complain about him.
It’s a tie game, 5th inning, a game the Yankees most likely will win, just shut up and watch it happen.
Wait. If Logan is up, why wasn’t he facing Overbay?
I understand Girardi wants to use a guy who can give them innings given Javy’s short start.
But that was a very high leverage spot and they needed a pitcher who has the stuff to miss bats.
Logan is up now. If he’s ok to warm up and get used now I have no idea why he wasn’t pitching to overbay given how big that spot was. Very confusing seeing Logan up and warming now.
“tie game because javy has no b*lls.”
Actually, the 4 to Bautista is what helped tie the game.
Can we get a pitcher who’s not afraid to throw strikes?
I thought a 7 game winning streak would give some of these posters some guts, but, obviously, that’s not the case.
Gaudin’s hard stuff would be much better against this lineup. Moseley’s stuff doesn’t look good so far.
Captain Clutch September 4th, 2010 at 2:54 pm
Great, a pitch right down the middle to Overrated. This mess never would of happened if Vazquez didn’t nibble to 2 straight batters. The rotation is an absolute mess. CC is the only pitcher that is consistent and gives them 6 innings or more
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And yet the Yankees have won 7 in a row. Calm down.
this game should be a WILD one.
Yankees win, as usual
Whiners, keep whining.
Yanks will win this game comfortably irresepctive of your whining
Andy can’t come back soon enough.
Getting tougher and tougher to massage short, ineffective starts from 60% of the rotation.
Thankfully, the offense has been hot this week.
CC is the only pitcher that is consistent and gives them 6 innings or more.
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getting a fresh Andy back will help, big time.
I would have had Logann pitch to Overbay and then, if things works out well then let Moseley start the 6th inning instead of coming in with runners on against a lefty – very strange move by JG
CB September 4th, 2010 at 2:55 pm
I understand Girardi wants to use a guy who can give them innings given Javy’s short start.
But that was a very high leverage spot and they needed a pitcher who has the stuff to miss bats.
Logan is up now. If he’s ok to warm up and get used now I have no idea why he wasn’t pitching to overbay given how big that spot was. Very confusing seeing Logan up and warming now.
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the only thing I can figure is that it was 2 out, nobody on, and two righties coming up. He had Moseley warm but wasn’t thinking Overbay would be up in that spot.
Maybe if Javy didn’t pitch like garbage Girardi wouldn’t have to take him out. I dont think Girardi himself is thrilled to take another starter out in the 5th inning. And terrible job by Mosely.
BBFan September 4th, 2010 at 2:57 pm
Whiners, keep whining.
Yanks will win this game comfortably irresepctive of your whining
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They’re a pack of gutless mental cases, BBFan.
I am just tuning into the game now so I am sorry if this has been answered but is the bullpen short today or something? I don’t really understand going to Moseley in that spot especialy since Joe has shown the willingness lately to go to his good relievers in crucial spots even early in the game
i never said the game was over, i just say javy a gutless bum
Hopefully Andy comes back soon and healthy. The rotation is being held together by glue right now. Always asking Moseley and Gaudin to come in during the 5th is eventually going to hurt them.
“Vazquez was clearly not happy to see Girardi come out of the dugout.”
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Right about now it doesn’t really matter what Vazquez is or isn’t happy about
The good thing is the Yankees will send him on his merry way in the offseason
He is put back in the rotation and reverts to the same pattern
Some guys are what they are, unreliable.
Team battles back from a 3-0 hole, gives you a 5-3 lead and you can’t get out of the 5th cleanly. Says it all.
If you warm up Logan with Moseley in there, it’s probably smart to have him up earlier to be ready to face Overbay.
Especially since he’s the only guy on this staff who has been able to get Overbay out this year.
“i never said the game was over, i just say javy a gutless bum”
So his velo is down 3 mph because he lacks guts? You’d think if he was scared that he would be throwing harder but without command.
I’m thinking today would be a good day for Jeter to get his first pie.
MG
CC can open the TB series away and close it at home, if they skip Javy’s turn, with the day off.
Carllson is the guy NYYs need to make a run at in the off season.
“But that was a very high leverage spot and they needed a pitcher who has the stuff to miss bats.”
CB
100% agree. He could have started Mosely in the 6th if he wanted him to eat up innings.
I sometimes find myself not wanting to post anything negative, just so I don’t agree with the “negative nellies” on here. But as always your commentary is spot on, with out all the negativity.
up 5 to 3 with 2 outs and doesn’t throw strikes.
what does velocity have to do with throwing strikes
“# Captain Clutch September 4th, 2010 at 3:01 pm
Hopefully Andy comes back soon and healthy. The rotation is being held together by glue right now. Always asking Moseley and Gaudin to come in during the 5th is eventually going to hurt them.”
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That is the key for the Yankees “Clutch”
Get Pettitte back and make sure he is healthy and go from there and hope Burnett can give you something down the stretch and into the playoffs to redeem his sub par season
As for Vazquez I will help pack his bags to a new destination.
Swish please come back soon. I doubt Berkman will get anymore starts against lefties. His approach is swing at the 1st pitch and hope to make contact.
Javy is a 5 inning pitcher, a nibbler, he’s better off in the pen as a long man.
This move proves Girardi made a bonehead move
Moseley comes in to face a lefty and now Logan comes in..Great lol
“what does velocity have to do with throwing strikes”
You’re missing the point.
Vazquez’s velo is down about 3 mph this season. Do you think that’s because he lacks guts? Seriously?
Yea pretty strange that you wouldn’t have Logan ready to face Overbay that last inning if he was available.
“# Rich in NJ September 4th, 2010 at 3:02 pm
“i never said the game was over, i just say javy a gutless bum”
So his velo is down 3 mph because he lacks guts? You’d think if he was scared that he would be throwing harder but without command.”
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No offense Rich but aren’t we tired of hearing about his
Tired Arm
Low Velocity
and whatever the excuse du jour is for his unreliability
Whether he is gutless or not doesn’t even matter at this point in time, the Yankees are battling for the division and he came out and spit the bit again today as soon as they put him back in the rotation, make what one may of it.
Rain delay in Boston
you have to wonder if Javy will even be on the postseason roster.
his stuff is so diminished that it doesn’t seem likely he’ll be one of the 25. at this point, hopefully he just maintains his Type A free agent status and delivers a 1st round draft pick in next yr’s loaded draft.
The Javy defenders have gone silent since Aug 1
They haven’t gotten Overbay out all year.
I think that’s his 18th extra base hit against the Yankees.
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.233 .353 .372 .725 , 10 hits 3 xbh hits not counting today ???????????
Overbay was 0-7 lifetime against Moseley before that AB.
That was probably Girardi’s reasoning.
I’d have still gone to Logan because he’s the hotter pitcher right now.
mick September 4th, 2010 at 3:04 pm
MG
CC can open the TB series away and close it at home, if they skip Javy’s turn, with the day off.
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CC is pitching Tuesday, his next day on turn would be on Sunday so they’ll have to move him back a day to do that. That would mean a spot starter would be needed for the Sunday game (assuming they skip Javy because of the day off-they could also just pitch him next Friday and it all lines up).
# Ace September 4th, 2010 at 3:08 pm
The Javy defenders have gone silent since Aug 1
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Unfortunately, you persist.
Ridiculous. This game is on Girardi now.
Boooooone
yay Logan…good job
Damaso who?
# SJ44 September 4th, 2010 at 3:09 pm
Overbay was 0-7 lifetime against Moseley before that AB.
That was probably Girardi’s reasoning.
I’d have still gone to Logan because he’s the hotter pitcher right now.
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Yeah, Kay was just talking about that. Overbay was 1-4 against Logan. I don’t usually have a problem with the matchup game Girardi plays, but the way Logan has been pitching, you have to go to him there.
Macfan
This isn’t about excuses, it’s about common sense logic.
Yes, Javy is a diminished pitcher.
Yes, he should not have an important (any?) role in the postseason.
But what does guts have to do with it?
Be it mechanics, innings accumulation, age, whatever, I don’t see what guts have to do with his decline.
“Ridiculous. This game is on Girardi now.”
Correct, as were the last 135, including the most recent 7.
heck no
“# Ace September 4th, 2010 at 3:08 pm
The Javy defenders have gone silent since Aug 1″
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They’re still those out there
What is more annoying is Javy is doing this nonsense as a veteran, I expect this from Phil Hughes, Ivan Nova, but not a guy in his 30′s with years of major league experience involved in a pennant race.
Vazquez is an absolute joke and like I said I hope the Yankees don’t put him on the playoff roster. Can’t wait for them to cut bait with him when the season ends.
You have to win in spite of guys like this not because of.
Gotta open the 7th with Logan for Wise and bring in Chamberlain for Hill and Bautista. Feed ‘em nothing but breaking pitches
No offense, but 0-7 means nothing to me.
MG
There is an off day on 9/9 Thurs.
If they go in turn , CC would go Mon. vs TB.
I guess Girardi should have known that Vazquez would allow 2 batters to get on base with 2 out and no one on and had Logan warmed up even though he had Moseley ready. Of course, if he did, you would complain he is burning out the bullpen. It just never ends around here…
Marte better not squeeze that bottle with his left hand, it might fall off. Too bad he is always hurt. The Yanks could of really used him in the earlier innings with Logan being the late inning lefty. You don’t want to have to use your only lefty in the 5th and 6th innings.
Anyone pining for the Javy draft picks – the Yanks have to offer him arb to get picks, and I am not so sure he would pass up the 12-14 mill he would get in arbitration after a down year.
mick September 4th, 2010 at 3:12 pm
MG
There is an off day on 9/9 Thurs.
If they go in turn , CC would go Mon. vs TB.
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I know, I’m assuming they would skip Vazquez. If they don’t, it lines up…
this game isnt on girardi. this game would be on javy and moseley.
“Overbay was 0 for 7 against Mosley”
IMO that is having your head in the book too much. Not one of Joe’s best moves.
“Anyone pining for the Javy draft picks ”
Not a chance.
# Rich in NJ September 4th, 2010 at 3:12 pm
No offense, but 0-7 means nothing to me.
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Especially with a guy like Moseley. Strange decision there to be sure.
I think it was just a rote move: “I’ll bring in Moseley to relieve Javy” (regardless of the matchup.)
our bullpen really has settled down over the last few months…they are pretty solid…
“# Rich in NJ September 4th, 2010 at 3:11 pm
Macfan
This isn’t about excuses, it’s about common sense logic.
Yes, Javy is a diminished pitcher.
Yes, he should not have an important (any?) role in the postseason.
But what does guts have to do with it?
Be it mechanics, innings accumulation, age, whatever, I don’t see what guts have to do with his decline.”
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Ah okay I got you, he just isn’t effective at a key point of the season for the Yankees
Given another shot in the rotation you think he would have seized it and ran with it, instead we got this from him today. Wow.
I think people look at the season he had last year in Atlanta and wonder why he hasn’t come close to that in the AL or this season with the Yankees certainly.
U can’t keep running Javy out there to start. Leave him where he has had success. Long man
GB
Someone had the same thoughts you did about the simulated game.
“Rodriguez said his main concern was not hitting a ball back up the middle into Pettitte.”
There is ZERO chance they offer Javy arbitration. None.
Bad move by Girardi but if they lose this game it’s on Vazquez. He put Bautista on base because he was nibbling and then fell behind Wells and gave him a pitch to hit. With 2 outs in the inning you have to get one of those batters out.
“# JohnnyK September 4th, 2010 at 3:13 pm
Anyone pining for the Javy draft picks – the Yanks have to offer him arb to get picks, and I am not so sure he would pass up the 12-14 mill he would get in arbitration after a down year.”
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LOL, so much for those picks, Yanks wouldn’t dream of that in a million years. I get the feeling they can’t wait to send him on his merry way.
Someone want to explain what “guts” are? Are we talking courage? Like, it takes guts to run into a burning building or go off to war? What the hell does this have to do with baseball?
pat, that was my real concern. That’s usually Rodriguez’ target (up the middle) when trying to get his swing down. I’m surprised that they didn’t have a screen up.
at least they got boone logan out of it. that’s something…
Moseley had faced Overbay 8 times in his career before today. One walk, 5 ground ball outs (4 of them weak), a fly ball and a strikeout. I can understand a preference for Logan but with that experience with Moseley it’s probably not enough to not go with him in that spot.
Well, that didn’t work.
For whoever mentioned that Javy defenders are silent -
It’s not a matter of “defending” a player. If a guy is having a bad outing, he’s having a bad outing. Javy has at least shown a work ethic and desire. If it can’t culminate in the wanted results, it doesn’t make him gutless or a non-competitor. It just makes him ineffective.
I had hoped he’d find his way. He’s had a rough year, but he hasn’t shied away from the work or the inquisition after games.
I am disappointed he didn’t have a better season. But I’ll never put him down.
I have a feeling he will not even be looking for a deal for next season, but that he’ll retire.
Girardi is turning into LaRussa because the starters can’t give 6.
“# IIOIIOIIO September 4th, 2010 at 3:18 pm
Someone want to explain what “guts” are? Are we talking courage? Like, it takes guts to run into a burning building or go off to war? What the hell does this have to do with baseball?”
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See Andy Pettitte on the mound
Even when he doesn’t have his best stuff he finds a way to get outs and keep the game close, even if he bends in the game and gives up runs early he finds a way to go deep into the game and limit the damage
Now look at the likes of Burnett and Vazquez and you have the antithesis of Pettitte
That is why fans mention guts, and the ability to grind out a start when you are not sharp on the mound.
We all know we can give the ball to Pettitte and say go out and give us a chance to win, cannot say that about Vazquez or Burnett from start to start, much less in any big spot ala Andy.
Now let’s see which Joba we get today
joba just cannot miss on his fastball when he gets to bautista.
Joba time, nervous time
drill bautista
So Girardi played the right card with Logan and it didn’t work with wise. Do you blame Girardi or Logan?
Guts is making big pitches in big spots. Guts is roughing out 6+. Guts is keeping leads. Guts=what Javy doesn’t have
@green beret. It’s not even close to the same call Stop that
MG
I am sure that was what Joe was thinking, (also Overbay has an identical split vs LH and RH pitchers) it sort of gives him a free pass on that decision.
But come on Logan (if avavilable, which he was) was a no brainer in that situation.
Anyway new game, like SJ said perfect game for Jeter pie.
# Macfan September 4th, 2010 at 3:22 pm
“# IIOIIOIIO September 4th, 2010 at 3:18 pm
Someone want to explain what “guts” are? Are we talking courage? Like, it takes guts to run into a burning building or go off to war? What the hell does this have to do with baseball?”
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See Andy Pettitte on the mound
Even when he doesn’t have his best stuff he finds a way to get outs and keep the game close, even if he bends in the game and gives up runs early he finds a way to go deep into the game and limit the damage
Now look at the likes of Burnett and Vazquez and you have the antithesis of Pettitte
That is why fans mention guts, and the ability to grind out a start when you are not sharp on the mound.
We all know we can give the ball to Pettitte and say go out and give us a chance to win, cannot say that about Vazquez or Burnett from start to start, much less in any big spot ala Andy.
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So when Andy Pettitte stops being successful he ceases to have guts?
This is a meaningless word in regards to baseball. Why hasn’t there ever been a unsuccessful baseball player with “guts?” It’s just another way to explain a poor performance when people are too obtuse to look for root causes.
Vazquez has a dead arm. Burnett has always been an inconsistent starter. Neither lack “guts,” they just don’t perform up to your standards.
I had lofty expectations for Javy this season……I thought he’d be good for 17 wins , or at the very least 15 …….Disappointed to say the least
Javy is better suited for a National league team. How about the Montreal Expos
FYI. There is a reason he hasn’t brought Joba in with men on base
alright Joba…..
ok, drill bautista next time
Good to see Joba returning to form.
Come on Joba!! I hate watching him pitch close in games. He is all over the place.
Ace September 4th, 2010 at 3:25 pm
@green beret. It’s not even close to the same call Stop that
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Oh, I see. You just pick and chose as to who to blame. Takes all of the pressure on you. Makes you never wrong.
how could he not think that was a strike it was down the middle….ball one was a strike….
Doreen September 4th, 2010 at 3:21 pm
For whoever mentioned that Javy defenders are silent -
It’s not a matter of “defending” a player. If a guy is having a bad outing, he’s having a bad outing. Javy has at least shown a work ethic and desire. If it can’t culminate in the wanted results, it doesn’t make him gutless or a non-competitor. It just makes him ineffective.
I had hoped he’d find his way. He’s had a rough year, but he hasn’t shied away from the work or the inquisition after games.
I am disappointed he didn’t have a better season. But I’ll never put him down.
I have a feeling he will not even be looking for a deal for next season, but that he’ll retire.
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Doreen, very well put, I could not have said it better myself…
Grab some bench, Bautista.
told you bautista bastard should be drilled, on the head
insert Nelson from the Simpson’s .gif:
Ha! Ha!
3 Ks. guess when teams dont throw fastballs straight down the middle, bautista isnt going to hit them.
Joba got very lucky there. Predictably he threw a 3-2 slider yet again. And unsurprisingly it was out of the strike zone. That was a ball. But the ump bailed him out.
I can only imagine if this was a Yankee being called out in a spot like that, that was 6 inches outside.
Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.
That’s homecooking. Ball four.
Wowsa, that pitch was way off the plate. Couldn’t have happened to a better person though.
Wow Teix!
he is mad that he isnt being fed homeruns. guess he better learn how to hit offspeed pitches and balls on the outside of the plate.
oh man, the throw from Cano is sooooooooooo poor.
Tex saved him
Oh jeez, Tex isn’t going to be able walk tomorrow. My groin is sore just watching that.
batista got hung up because he argue a strike.
whats with cano bad throws lately?
That pitch was in the other batters box.
Not shedding any tears for Bautista though.
Great play by Tex and Joba got out of it.
Piece of cake! lol
LOVE IT TEX!!!! Awesome play
Bye bye vitamins. In a tied game I will take it. Nice play by Tex.
If anyone tells u Tex isn’t a GG 1b they r brain dead. Esp any def metrics that say he isn’t top notch
Cano’s throws have been erratic lately. Great stretch by Teixeira and solid recovery from Ch
Big time Tex. A Big Fly is going to decide this game.
Mark Teixeira folks. What a huge play.
That went from a potentially very ugly inning to no damage in a very quick turn around.
***Chamberlain***
bautista argued earlier and that is why that lousy call went against him.
Let’s go Yankee bats. A few runs would be nice this inning.
# Ace September 4th, 2010 at 3:31 pm
If anyone tells u Tex isn’t a GG 1b they r brain dead. Esp any def metrics that say he isn’t top notch
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Okay, this isn’t even English.
tex is the man. girardi has to be seeing that cano needs a break. give him one day, maybe two, get him fresh.
Pitchers should never pitch Bautista inside with a fastball. Make him prove he can hit the ball to RF. Even if he hits the ball it will probably stay in the ballpark until he proves the can drive the ball there.
like cc’s ace status, maybe the glove makes tex a ‘bargain’ as well.
“So Girardi played the right card with Logan and it didn’t work with wise. Do you blame Girardi or Logan?”
Girardi. He should have brought in Mitre to face the lefty.
At a certain point in time, wouldn’t it be wise for some of you to consider finding a team to root for whose players and manager exhibits the reliability, character, fortitude and intelligence you require, rather than this team as apparently currently constituted?
This our inning. My pick to click.
“like cc’s ace status, maybe the glove makes tex a ‘bargain’ as well.”
As with CC, at this point in the contract, he’s earning his money.
# IIOIIOIIO September 4th, 2010 at 3:25 pm
So when Andy Pettitte stops being successful he ceases to have guts?
This is a meaningless word in regards to baseball. Why hasn’t there ever been a unsuccessful baseball player with “guts?” It’s just another way to explain a poor performance when people are too obtuse to look for root causes.
Vazquez has a dead arm. Burnett has always been an inconsistent starter. Neither lack “guts,” they just don’t perform up to your standards.”
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Nope we will just acknowledge the fact that Andy was a successful Yankee and give him his due and say thanks for the terrific years of service and Championships
Andy Pettitte has done it time and time again when called upon for the team
No doubt in my mind if Vazquez was in Milwaukee, Florida, places where the light isn’t shining on him, he would be pitching better than this junk on the mound that he is doing for us.
This guy put the team in a 3-0 hole, then the team ties it up and takes a 5-3 lead and the very next inning with 2 outs he creates a jam that has the manager take him out right there and then. It just shows the lack of trust Girardi has in him that he yanked him there and then
Captain got overpowered
Wonder if all the people saying the nasty things about Javy would say it to his face…now that would take “guts” and I doubt any of them would have it …
Doreen …I agree 100% with you post on Javy…perfectly “typed”…
Go Yankees 2010 !!!
“At a certain point in time, wouldn’t it be wise for some of you to consider finding a team to root for whose players and manager exhibits the reliability, character, fortitude and intelligence you require, rather than this team as apparently currently constituted?”
Kind of like the Larry Brown led Knicks with Starbury as the PG.
# Macfan September 4th, 2010 at 3:36 pm
# IIOIIOIIO September 4th, 2010 at 3:25 pm
So when Andy Pettitte stops being successful he ceases to have guts?
This is a meaningless word in regards to baseball. Why hasn’t there ever been a unsuccessful baseball player with “guts?” It’s just another way to explain a poor performance when people are too obtuse to look for root causes.
Vazquez has a dead arm. Burnett has always been an inconsistent starter. Neither lack “guts,” they just don’t perform up to your standards.”
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Nope we will just acknowledge the fact that Andy was a successful Yankee and give him his due and say thanks for the terrific years of service and Championships
Andy Pettitte has done it time and time again when called upon for the team
No doubt in my mind if Vazquez was in Milwaukee, Florida, places where the light isn’t shining on him, he would be pitching better than this junk on the mound that he is doing for us.
This guy put the team in a 3-0 hole, then the team ties it up and takes a 5-3 lead and the very next inning with 2 outs he creates a jam that has the manager take him out right there and then. It just shows the lack of trust Girardi has in him that he yanked him there and then
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You addressed nothing I said.
Long ball TEX, PLEASE.
Pat M – you were wrong about Phil Hughes, also, remember – only 13-7. Can’t trust your judgment, man…
The bats have to wake up again. They haven’t done anything the last couple of innings.
Don’t mind if we don’t score these next 2 innings
I want some pie.
The 3-2 pitch to Bautista was off the plate, but even little leaguers are taught you have to swing at anything close on a 3-2 count.
Besides, the first pitch was a strike. It was the exact same pitch and location as the second strike. It evened out in the end.
I’m just a little disappointed that Bautista can’t go for the Golden Sombrero!
“Kind of like the Larry Brown led Knicks with Starbury as the PG.”
Exactly, there is virtue in loyalty to be sure, but sometimes you just have to cut your losses, for mental health reasons if nothing else.
Good signs from Robbie.
Frasor has good stuff out there…
That was ball 4. Tex has been chasing out of the zone a lot more today than we usually see from him.
LET THE GOOD THAMES ROLL
Interesting how base ball works. Cano didn’t have a hit in September until today. And now he has two.
Thames just missed a cookie and he knows it.
Unbelievable.
Joe Girardi – genius!
You called it, jackamir!
Well he didn’t miss that cookie lol
Thames!
told you we will win the game.
well looks like now Thames have something to show for all his good swings today
and there are the couple of runs I asked for. Thanks Marcus!
Impressive. Really.
he didn’t miss the 2nd cookie, he can really rake when he’s hot like now…
thames has been the best of the offseason moves no?
MARCUSSSSSSSSSSS THAAAMMMEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
WOHOO, NOT THAT IS A GUY WHO HAS STEPPTED UP FOR THE TEAM DOWN THE STRETCH
BOOYAH!
All in favor of bringing Marcus Thames back next year, say “YESSSSS”!
maybe granderson in the long term.
At this point Marcus Thames is like a human rabbit’s foot. He has provided such incredible value and has had so many big hits.
Should start at DH against every lefty in the playoffs.
marcus is making himself a lot of money this offseason!
Thames has been on the ball all day. He’s made several very hard outs to the deepest section of the park where he just got under the ball.
He missed the first pitch he got to hit by being too quick. And he was unhappy with himself.
He got a second pitch and did not miss.
He is hitting everything hard right now. He’s squaring one ball after another. And he’s bull strong so when he hits it it goes very far.
What a great pick up he’s been. Where would this team be without him.
So does Girardi go to Robertson or Wood in the 8th? Wood has been pitching much better recently but he pitched yesterday and who knows what he is like on back to back days. Robertson really struggled yesterday though.
# Yank1 September 4th, 2010 at 3:44 pm
Should start at DH against every lefty in the playoffs.
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Just lefties? He’s been hitting righties lately as well. I would say that if the playoffs started tomorrow, he’d be the every-day DH.
“# ac1 September 4th, 2010 at 3:43 pm
thames has been the best of the offseason moves no?”
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Without a doubt, all season he has hit lefties and has been money down the stretch for us
These are the kind of role players that help you to win a Championship
“# Joe from Long Island September 4th, 2010 at 3:43 pm
All in favor of bringing Marcus Thames back next year, say “YESSSSS”!”
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YEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Don’t (let him become) a Free Agent
Should start at DH against every lefty in the playoffs.
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Berkman can’t touch lefties so you don’t have to worry about that. It’s an easy decision.
CB September 4th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
What a great pick up he’s been. Where would this team be without him.
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Yet I could almost retire if I had $1 for every negative comment about Thames on the blog during spring training.
Good job Thames. Now bring in Kearns for defense in RF.
The roster now has so much balance – something we didn’t have earlier in the season. We have lineups that can crush lefties AND righties now. And late in the game, if they bring in a hard throwing RH to neutralize Thames, Berkman is there, or hard throwing lefty, we can just bring in Thames. Plus Kearns when he is hot can hit both types of pitching. And Nunez at the bottom providing speed.
The balance has improved dramatically. We went from vulnerable against lefties to now crushing most of them.
He’s also the guy half this blog wanted DF’ed in ST, quoting meaningless ST stats as the reason why he should be gone.
BloSox losing to the White Sox 3-1 in the 9th at Fenway
Bwahaahahahahaha
They were alread finished anyway but always love salt to be rubbed in the wounds.
thames did his job. golson can field. good call.
“He’s also the guy half this blog wanted DF’ed in ST, quoting meaningless ST stats as the reason why he should be gone.”
*raises hand*
KW has done a decent job since he became a Yankee
Overbay had no chance on the easy Wood burning gas.
That was some major heat to Overbay
Wood is the 8th inning guy now. I don’t think there’s any question about it.
“Yet I could almost retire if I had $1 for every negative comment about Thames on the blog during spring training.”
The writing was on the wall, he wasn’t even suppose to make the team.
How good is the yankees outfield defensively right now?
They have 3 guys who are plus CF manning each of the outfield spots.
Gardner in left, Granderson in center and Golson in right field.
That’s a lot of speed and leather in that outfield.
Marcus is such a gentleman. Just a real plus in the clubhouse. His Mother is bedridden and watches every game. He is such a good guy. It’s really great when the good people in this world get their 15 minutes.
It’s almost unbelievable how good Wood has been since getting here. When we made that trade, I was almost positive we were walking in to another Eric Gagne situation. He’s been HUGE for us.
Tex should win a platinum glove.
Wood was a great add by Cash. Made up for Park.
“# ZMAN September 4th, 2010 at 3:47 pm
The roster now has so much balance – something we didn’t have earlier in the season. We have lineups that can crush lefties AND righties now. And late in the game, if they bring in a hard throwing RH to neutralize Thames, Berkman is there, or hard throwing lefty, we can just bring in Thames. Plus Kearns when he is hot can hit both types of pitching. And Nunez at the bottom providing speed.
The balance has improved dramatically. We went from vulnerable against lefties to now crushing most of them.”
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Not to mention the bullpen dumping Park and adding Wood
Thames, Wood have been very solid additions by Cashman.
I always figured the Yankees went into the season knowing the bench was pretty weak but would make adjustments, if needed, at the trade deadline. That’s exactly what happened and the players they picked up are all contributing. Thames, of course, has been a revelation, he’s just someone you can put into the right spot and know he will do a good job.
I know relief pitchers are notorious for being unreliable, and I realize the money issues here, but I would love Kerry Wood coming back next year, also. It’s not just his stuff, though that’s obviously important, but the guys just looks like he’s been around the block and knows how to pitch.
“# Ace September 4th, 2010 at 3:50 pm
Wood was a great add by Cash. Made up for Park.”
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LOL, you posted that the same time I did as well
Yankees are ROLLING, Woohoo
Some team next year is going to thank Eiland and the changes he made with Wood. His stuff is electric right now.
The Yankees have really been playing good team baseball lately will a lot of guys contributing and picking each other up. How about Marcus Thames…what a bargain.
I can’t believe this is the first time that Wood has pitched in back to back games. It seems Joe uses him everyday. And with great reason, he has been solid
# ChokeXOnXFailure September 4th, 2010 at 3:49 pm
It’s almost unbelievable how good Wood has been since getting here. When we made that trade, I was almost positive we were walking in to another Eric Gagne situation. He’s been HUGE for us.
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I have to agree. I was far from convinced that Wood would be able to contribute like he has.
Wood is good.
If only the NY Yankees didn’t have an incompetent manager, an over the hill shortstops and nearly an entire starting rotation filled with gutless, unreliable 4-inning-ceiling starters, just imagine what they could have accomplished these last 8 games.
any chance the yankees hold onto wood next year?
Really good bullpen work again, regardless of Moseley’s game tying hit allowed.
Gagne has known ‘roid issues, as the Mitchell Report points out via Theo talking to a scout.
Anybody see 57Yank on here lately?
Seems his departure from the blog coincided with Thames’ hot streak.
Nothing personal but, he can’t post here anymore until Thames cools off! lol
Ever since Dave Eiland got Kerry to change his arm angle he’s been lights out as a Yankee.
I remember Kerry saying it was the first time in his career any pitching coach looked to change his mechanics.
Pretty amazing when think about it.
You all realize the Yanks just won the game, when Wood finished off the top of the 8th?
“# jackamir September 4th, 2010 at 3:49 pm
Marcus is such a gentleman. Just a real plus in the clubhouse. His Mother is bedridden and watches every game. He is such a good guy. It’s really great when the good people in this world get their 15 minutes.”
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yeah I remember seeing a documentary about that story of his. Quality stuff.
Maybe Joba can move in with Wood for a couple of months. I can sure there is a lot he can teach him and a lot he can learn from watching him.
“# Joe from Long Island September 4th, 2010 at 3:53 pm
You all realize the Yanks just won the game, when Wood finished off the top of the 8th?”
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Its MO time
I wouldn’t count on Wood not being with the Yankees next year. They have paid competitive salaries to other relievers like Gordon and Farnsworth, why not pay a guy like Wood who has pitched so well for them. And, for Wood, why wouldn’t he want to pitch for a championship team? I doubt pitching for the Indians made him feel very good the past couple of years.
It would be nice to find a way to bring Wood back. It may not be easy.
Props to Cashman for getting Kerry Wood on 7/31. He looks like he loves being a Yankee.
woo michigan! starting to look like the wvu offense. that kind of offense if done right will dominate the big 10 ( or whatever it is called now )
It hurts to think how good Wood could have been as a starter if he’d been able to stay healthy.
His stuff was just amazing.
Hopefully, he can make some memories this season.
57 Yank is posting on Blogging the Bombers once in awhile. Spews ridiculous stuff over there. Speaking of that comment board they got some knuckle head posters on that thing. Bizarro world over there. I like Feinsands twitter page though.
The Yankees bench, bullpen is so much more improved facets that are helpful in the playoffs
The lineup will get Arod back tomorrow
The rotation will get Andy back in a short while
Yanks have picked up steam at the right time.
Lets Go Yankees
“I always figured the Yankees went into the season knowing the bench was pretty weak but would make adjustments, if needed, at the trade deadline.”
This is something that Yankee fans simply don’t understand. It’s kind of amazing because it happens every single year.
And every single year yankee fans get into a panic about two things which always change and improve: the bench and the bull pen.
Yankee fans just cannot accept the fact that players who would be quality bench players for the yankees can get starting positions with other teams.
Jerry Hairston has been starting for the Padres – a first place club – this entire season. Why would he even want to play for the yankees if he’s gong to be a bench guy. Money always talks but players want to play if for no other reason than that is what ensures their longer term financial security past the current year.
Guys like Austin Kearns, never mind Lance Berkman, are never going to agree to bench roles with the yankees in the winter when they can get more playing time elsewhere.
But that dynamic changes as the season goes on. Teams fall out of the race and players who wouldn’t take bench spots in the winter are made available in trades and are satisfied, even happy, to play off the bench in August in a pennant race.
This happens every single year. But impatient yankee fans still don’t seem to figure this out or see the larger patter when it’s April and the complaints about the bench are endless.
This is the yankees strategy for building a bench right now and will be until some guys from the minors like Nunez are ready to assume utility roles with the big league club.
Another scoreless outing from the Yankees pen again with MO to come in the 9th
I wouldn’t count on Wood not being with the Yankees next year. They have paid competitive salaries to other relievers like Gordon and Farnsworth, why not pay a guy like Wood
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It would be great if he came back next year. The only reason I said he might not is if another team offers him $5m to close and the Yankee aren’t going to be able to match that. Maybe $3m+ but not much higher than that. It depends on what is more important to him, winning or a little bit more money.
Indeed, it is good to have Wood.
SJ – is that right, about Wood and Eiland? That’s really remarkable. If that’s true, it’s doesn’t speak well of many pitching coaches. But, it is in keeping with a lot of what I’ve read about Eiland, about both his diligence, and pitching smarts.
The Yanks really seem to have a solid coaching staff.
Bobby Jenks closes it out – the immortal Clay Buchholz suffers the loss.
You can’t have a strong bench if you have to play them as regulars, like they did early this year. NYYs was lucky that they had some young players come in from Scranton that helped win a lot of games.
redsox are fading into oblivion…maybe after another week people will stop bringing there name up in the pennant race
Boston just lost so I have to get this in quickly.
The magic number right now?
A magical moment.
http://bosoxinjection.com/file.....lk-off.jpg
wow, Buck has a rifle behind the plate…
Wood was good in June too.
Wow, that was some throw, but he was safe. Make up call?
Hmmm, I see the Sox just dropped their first game to the Whitesox…
On that note, I’d like thanks today’s umpiring for their usual excellent conscientious job today at the Stadium.
And I’d also like to give a shout out to Boston College for their big win against Weber State this afternoon.
Going to go celebrate another (probable) Yankees win with a big, steaming bowl of chowda.
Wicked good day.
Wicked good.
Yanks on the verge of 8 straight wins
BloSux lose to the Pale Hose
Ahhh, feels good to be a Yankees fan.
ooh yeah
He was safe. I can’t blieve it was that close and Pena had such a big jump.
The RS gave up a lot of hits, though only 3 runs.
remember, you can never count the Sox out of anything, they never lose and even if they do it doesn’t count…
Brett Gardner: The Incredible on-base machine.
It will be interesting once A-Rid is back whether Girardi keeps Gardner at the top of the lineup.
The gap between Gardner and Jeter in terms of speed, pitches seen, and on base ability this season is stark.
It’s a good time to be a Yankee fan. I wonder how many Met fans are swinging over to the Pinstripers.
GGOBBG’s OBP back up to .393.
The called balls and strikes have gotten so bad that its almost hard to get angry about it anymore.
While the talking heads are overboard about the replay, maybe they should focus more on how bad the Home Plate umpires have been all year.
“Wood was a great add by Cash. Made up for Park.”
Wood and Park aren’t that different in terms of strategy for building a bull pen. People aren’t fully seeing this.
Everyone loves Wood now. But Wood was utter garbage for the Indians this season. He was horrible. He was blowing saves and recurrently injured. He’d just gotten off the DL and thrown only a few appearances before he was traded to the yankees.
So in other words the yankees had no real clue what they were getting in Wood. All they knew was his past record for having great stuff, limited control and his immediate performance this season which was abysmal and disappointing.
The yankees took an educated risk in trading for Wood. And it was absolutely the prudent thing to do because the cost was low and worth the potential upside benefit.
That same strategic point of view for building a pen was used to select Park. The risk on Park was minimal – 1.25M after he turned down a $3M deal from the phillies while looking for a multi-year deal. It was a very low cost move to add the 12th man to a bull pen. Park was very good for the Phillies last year out of the pen. Go back and look at how the threw in the playoffs for them and how he threw against the yankees in the series.
The same strategy brought them Wood and Park. Guess what, those kinds of plays work out 50% of the time you are going to wing up with a very good bull pen by the time August rolls around. And that’s what’s happenned.
But it takes time to sort out how those risks are or arent’ going to pay off and then wait to see how the trade market develops.
A-Rid ….
lol.
Jeter needs help and I think he has to swallow some pride and get Long’s tutorial. He needs to sleep on the other side of his bed.
CB, great insight into the thought process for bringing in first Park and then Wood.
The gap between Gardner and Jeter in terms of speed, pitches seen, and on base ability this season is stark.
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I definitely would. He gets something going at the top and it gives the big bats a baserunner. With Jeter struggling and not getting on base it’s very quiet at the top until the big guys come up. A great lineup with Arod back would be Gardner, Jeter and then Swish 6th. It extends the lineup even more.
“He needs to sleep on the other side of his bed.”
I wonder how Mrs. Long is going to feel about that?
that last pitch by Mo was completely unhittable…
love it Mo
is there another team in baseball with more grind than the yankees?
game in game out, they never give up. you see a lot of team mailing it in when their starting pitcher doesn’t have it. this team simply doesn’t quit. yes, they’re not perfect. but you get the sense that they’re gearing up for a deep playoff run
Rivera is almost as automatic as any pitcher in history in the closer role. The Sandy Koufax of closers.
how is it possible that Mo, at age 40, is having what is probably his best year statistically?
Just amazing, what a performer.
“is there another team in baseball with more grind than the yankees”
Probably, but they don’t have as much talent.
Mariano is my favorite Yankee to watch!
I should’ent jinx him – my bad
stuckey99 September 4th, 2010 at 4:07 pm
GGOBBG’s OBP back up to .393.
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Yeah He is turning into a speedy version of Nick Johnson.
In a short career, Wise has done some damage against the Yankees.
Make it 1-11 Mo.
Jays get to face Mo and the shadows
“game in game out, they never give up. ”
No. They never do. The level at which this cohort of players has performed at over the past two seasons has been extraordinary.
To win 100 games is extremely difficult. To have a shot to win 100 games in back to back seasons even more so.
And you don’t do that if you don’t flat out compete all the time, every inning, wire to wire.
But this teams ability to fight too often gets dismissed as a function of talent and money.
Mo is not in decline.
frozen pizza…
8 in a row, find something to complain about now, whiners.
That’s our Mo! Sweet job by Mo.
Gardner in left, Granderson in center and Golson in right-
The fastest 3G network in baseball?
Incomparable genius. Artistry.
Mo looked as good as ever in this inning…….lets keep it rolling NY
Mo= perfection.
What a sick pitch that was !!!!
Good job Mo!! That last pitch was perfect and unhittable to Hill.
I think I just heard the groan from the Rays players. lol.
Thames has been doing really well.
Javy didn’t have much today, but he battled. He had nothing but kept the score down early to help the Yankees to this win.
Nice job all around.
“But this teams ability to fight too often gets dismissed as a function of talent and money.”
I think that’s the most frustrating thing about being a yankee fan, the pure pursuit of baseball excellence is often overlooked by people focused on the payroll. imagine what espn would do if the red sox showed this kind of fight?
last year going into the playoffs this team showed a quiet confidence. this year they deserve to feel the same
Good stuff today fellow blogers. I had fun, THANKS everybody. Read you tomorrow.