Yankees vs. Orioles
Posted by: Brian Heyman - Posted in Misc on Sep 08, 2010 
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Update, 1:37: Finally a hit for the Orioles off Ivan Nova with two outs in the third, Josh Bell’s single to center. Nova is a rather an intriguing prospect. Wonder if he will fit into the rotation next season.
Update, 1:48: Finally a run off Brad Bergesen. Brett Gardner was out stretching for an RBI triple, although he may have been safe. So it’s 1-0 after three. Derek Jeter had a weak swing on the inning-ending grounder. The Captain is 0 for 2 and approaching .260. Wonder how many years the Yankees will offer him after this season at age 36. What do you think?
Update, 2:03: Nova has five strikeouts in four innings and has allowed just two singles, riding this 1-0 lead.
Update, 2:13: Brad Bergesen is also pitching an effective game for the Orioles, allowing one run and three hits through four. It’s amazing the way the O’s have responded to Buck Showalter, seems like he has put a little fear into them. They’re 21-13 since he took over.
Update, 2:20: Nova got a fastball up to Matt Wieters and he sent it the other way to the left-field seats for a two-run homer — 2-1 here in the fifth.
Update, 2:36: It’s not easy to double up Gardner, but that 4-6-3 double-ball play shortcircuited the fifth.
Update, 2:38: Nova starts the sixth with 73 pitches, 49 for strikes.
Update, 2:44: First and second, two outs. David Robertson is warming up.
Update, 2:47: Nova gets out of the jam. I believe he’s at 91 pitches. Can’t complain with two runs and six hits allowed over six. We’ll see if the Yankees can get something going against Bergesen. He had an 0-2 record with a 10.38 ERA in two career starts against them.
Update, 2:53: Well, it’s now one run and three hits for the Yankees through six. Nova is done. Robertson is on for the seventh.
Update, 3:09: Bergesen is done. So far he has given up one run and four hits over 6 1/3. There’s a runner on first, but now the ball is being handed to former New Jersey Nets forward Mark Hendrickson.
Update, 3:13: Joe Girardi is pulling Curtis Granderson against the lefty. Marcus Thames will pinch hit with two outs. So Showalter will counter with righty Jim Johnson.
Update, 3:19: Good job by Thames with the single to right-center. So it’s first and third for Francisco Cervelli.
Update, 3:20: Bad job by Cervelli, first pitch, grounds to third. Has he driven in a run since May?
Update, 3:23: By the way, the last time the Orioles swept three in the Bronx was 1986. The Yankees are also the only major-league team not to lose four straight this season. But there are two innings to go.
Update, 3:26: Boone Logan is coming in to pitch with one out and none on in the eighth.
Update, 3:57: Nick Swisher two-run walk-off in the ninth. Yankees win, 3-2.
nova looking much better than his competition (AJ and Javy). Maybe Joe will let him go more than 5 today.
Nothing like having a game thread start in the third inning.
Finally???? More like unfortunately. Odd choice of language.
Shame, absolutely agree about the games being more fun when teams are competitive. I love seeing a game that can go either way. And I also understood your circular thesis!
syc, I have the same thing when the Yanks play the Sux. I am blacked out and have to watch the games on NESN
Why would you love to see a game which can go either way when you’re often so sure of the outcome?? How can anything be entertaining given that?
question: is Nova this good or do the other teams just not know him, yet?
A little early to attack Trisha, isn’t it?
Apparently, somebody’s burglar alarm on their box of donuts went off and woke him up.
She is doing her own attacking, in her usual passive aggressive way.
Maybe a little of both, Rishi, but, probably more the League.
Shame, absolutely agree about the games being more fun when teams are competitive. I love seeing a game that can go either way. And I also understood your circular thesis!
syc, I have the same thing when the Yanks play the Sux. I am blacked out and have to watch the games on NESN
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I know the feeling. I live in Boston. Thank god Jerry Remy isnt bad on the mic.
Straw –
It’s a way of life with jerkface. I more often than not just ignore it.
good steal. need to stay aggressive with the offense struggling.
ac1, how horrible for you.
How about Orsillo on the mic? That guy is horrendous!
Jerry Remy is the worst on the mic. You have to hear his chipmunk voice and his freakish laugh, and then when they show them in the booth, you have to see his fat red cheeks. He belongs in a circus.
At least Cervi advanced the runner.
orsillo sucks. with remy, i meant being a homer. he isnt too bad regarding only being pro sox.
Gardner is the slowest fast guy I’ve ever seen.
GreenBeret7 September 8th, 2010 at 1:45 pm
Maybe a little of both, Rishi, but, probably more the League.
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Thanks, GB – wasn’t sure what to make of it/expectations to have…
Kenny is annoying. The O’s do no wrong in his eyes. BG was safe. Go announce their games next year.
oh well we got the one run
cervelli’s AB was the first time i can remember a batter moving a runner from 2nd to 3rd on an out in a long time.
Expos!
Wow, this game is flying!
Carl, Kenny definitely is a homer when it comes to the Orioles.
im thinking jeter’s poor year wont change too much.
i believe they want to keepo this civil, so i would say either 3/58 (shorter with higher per year, or 4/80..
Kenny is a class guy, though. He had great respect and admiration for Mr. Steinbrenner and shared many wonderful stories about the legend.
i like Kenny well enough…but I never understood why he is a Yankees announcer instead of an O’s announcer. Just cause he’s from NY…he played for Baltimore most of his career
He should go cover the O’s. We should bring Kaat and Cone back.
I wonder if Girardi would ever consider using Nova as a starter in the postseason…
trisha he should. nova has been consistent. if he struggles, then you bring in javy (who seems to be great in the pen)
That was filthy!
47 pitches through 4 from Nova. Nice.
ac1 I agree.
Nova looking good so far.
Pie couldn’t layoff on that curve because he’s been throwing it for strikes.
A nice rebound from Friday’s game where he had control issues.
Any time, Rishi. With a healthy rotation and not having issues with Hughes innings or Vazquez/Burnett’s ineffectiveness, Nova would make a perfect #6 guy/long reliever like Ramiro Mendoza was in the late 90s/early ’00s. I’m guessing he’s stays with NYYs until the other youngsters are ready, unless the demand from other teams are high with a good return. He’s a lot like Noesi, though Noesi is the best of the two.
This is one of the fastest-paced games I remember in a long time. There’s something to be said for that!
Be back in a little. Hopefully the game will still be going.
GO YANKS!
tell you what, Nova looks better then Ian Kennedy ever did, for the Yankees. Kennedy had a good August/Sept in 2006 via smoke & mirrors. Nova is doing it with excellent pitching.
this is what a real pitching prospect looks like. He may not be Betances, Brackman, or Banuelos. But he’s at least good enough to be in the NYY Top 10
Can Tex hit a curve ball or a change up?
A-rod has had two solid swings
all of a sudden tex looks lost at the plate
correction: 2007
Cano needs some time off. He looks terrible at the plate.
the Yanks are such a collective team…it’s like either everyone is hitting well or no one is hitting well…they slump together. We were hitting so well going into this Baltimore series and then wham!! nothing
The fact that we have a 1-run lead against this garbage pitcher is really pathetic. Tillman, Matusz…yes they’re the future, they have some stuff…Bergensen is just hideous.
sooooo lame
If Nova can continue to string good outings together, he certainly can pitch himself into consideration for the post-season.
Given the current state of the rotation, it’s in the Yankees best interests not to discount anyone who can help them on the mound in the post-season.
GreenBeret7 September 8th, 2010 at 2:04 pm
Any time, Rishi. With a healthy rotation and not having issues with Hughes innings or Vazquez/Burnett?s ineffectiveness, Nova would make a perfect #6 guy/long reliever like Ramiro Mendoza was in the late 90s/early ?00s. I?m guessing he?s stays with NYYs until the other youngsters are ready, unless the demand from other teams are high with a good return. He?s a lot like Noesi, though Noesi is the best of the two.
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Gotcha – so not to expect such “domination” all the time
if he crashes back to earth, I wont be upset
Time off is over. They will have to play through slumps and fatigue.
They have off days the next two Thursday’s.
They can’t keep resting guys and keeping the lineup short.
It’s September. All hands on deck now.
LOL @ Wakefield. 3-10! And they gave him the ASG nod last year – as if he was actually a good pitcher
Karma came around Wakie for not deserving your ASG berth
Every single one of theirs is out, but we dont get the call. He was safe, but of course we dont get the call. What a ….. joke.
He was out. Good call ump
Another blown call.
tell you what, Nova looks better then Ian Kennedy ever did, for the Yankees. Kennedy had a good August/Sept in 2006 via smoke & mirrors. Nova is doing it with excellent pitching.
this is what a real pitching prospect looks like. He may not be Betances, Brackman, or Banuelos. But he’s at least good enough to be in the NYY Top 10
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Be careful about making judgements about a prospect based on an August/September callup. They seem to all look good to us because we are comparing with guys we’ve been watching all season.
The Yanks just don’t hit these 5 era pitchers. Bergeson who is awful has given up 167 hits in 136 innings pitched. Maybe the Yanks can hit Wilson or Lee with Texas since they seem to do better against good pitchers with lower eras.
He was out? Good job Cervelli, cant stop a damn ball.
Here comes the run right back…this team is wearing my patience thin
Lets walk the bottom of the order!!! Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!
Cervelli needs to block that pitch. Good job…
Cervelli needs to block that pitch. Good job…
Unbelievable…..F This team, seriously
This underachieving loser just went to the opposite field for an absolute bomb. what a loser.
and we got cheated at 1st base – per the usual.
Rishi, I didn’t mean for it to sound like Nova was some sort of Moseley type of pitcher. He’s going to be pretty decent, but, I’m just guessing it won’t be with the yanks long term.
Shoalwalter: why you have to green light your hitters on 3-0 ?????!!!!
ohh crab
With CY Bergesen pitching whats next?
Great a 3-0 cookie. Nova needs to be smarter than that. Of course this AAA team gets a gift from the ump. Just pathetic against this minor league team.
GreenBeret7 September 8th, 2010 at 2:20 pm
Rishi, I didn?t mean for it to sound like Nova was some sort of Moseley type of pitcher. He?s going to be pretty decent, but, I?m just guessing it won?t be with the yanks long term
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I hear you…he’s been looking so far so good to me
i don’t care how well the O’s are playing under Buck – they’re still the pathetic O’s. But we just look kind of embarrassing against them this time around.
Can’t stay much longer with Nova.
Unfortunately, with a dead offense, every pitcher has to be on a short hook since runs are at a premium.
It’s a shame the pitchers have to be so perfect.
But, as we have seen all year, when they slump at the plate, they all slump at the same time and it lasts awhile.
So what Nova gives up a few runs.
The Yankees need to start hitting!
I despise this fat waddling duck Bell. And this stain Brian Roberts. This guy doesn’t even deserve to wear a baseball uniform.
Why all the criticism of Showalter? He has a crappy team playing great while Girardi has a $213M dollar team playing like crap.
The Orioles are just playing with more energy. This comes from the Captain and the Manager, both of whom have to go after this season. Look at the schedule. The Yankees may miss the playoffs.
Singleton is right. Nova does seem to tire, early.
Asking Nova to pitch a shut out because the lineup can’t hit an awful pitcher who has gotten smacked around all year is pathetic. If they want to win a game in Texas they better wake up. With AJ, Vazquez and Moseley pitching they will need to score at least 5 runs a game so I hope this isn’t a 2 week slump for the offense.
Who gives a flying monkeys ….. if this bum loser Roberts has a 7 game hitting streak????
yea but since they arent hitting that the problem……………..
As good as Nova has been he seems to be a 4 inning pitcher. Once he gets into the 5th he seems to not be as effective.
“The Orioles are just playing with more energy. This comes from the Captain and the Manager, both of whom have to go after this season. Look at the schedule. The Yankees may miss the playoffs”
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so Girardi needs to go after this season ?
you really should be ran off from posting here. It ruins the site, for everyone else
Captain Clutch September 8th, 2010 at 2:24 pm
Asking Nova to pitch a shut out because the lineup can?t hit an awful pitcher who has gotten smacked around all year is pathetic. If they want to win a game in Texas they better wake up. With AJ, Vazquez and Moseley pitching they will need to score at least 5 runs a game so I hope this isn?t a 2 week slump for the offense.
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I agree – when the offense goes, it really goes…no one is hitting. I’m not panicking just yet, but a few signs of life would not be bad…
GoldGlove, they aren’t going to lose 9 games to the Red Sox in the standings
You’re a terrible troll
Ok I can deal wit losing 2 of 3 to O’s bu not being swept, I don’t care what you think of Showalter is doing, they are still the O’s and being swept at home is embarassing…
Bottom line is no matter what any of the starting pitchers do, the Yankees have to start doing the job offensively and take care of these garbage 5.00+ ERA starting pitchers. The entire rest of the league hits this guy, his numbers are terrible for a reason.
The only way a bad team like the Orioles can beat you is if you let them think they can beat you, mainly by keeping them around by not hitting their awful pitching.
The Orioles have enough offensive talent in their lineup to score runs, so if you take their weakness (and not just a weakness, but a fatal flaw) and turn it into a strength, you’re going to look like garbage against them.
The O has been embarrassing
Nova bends, but he doesn’t break easily.
Unlike someone else…
2 runs through 5 innings is a good start.
The Yanks need to start hitting Now!
And who are the White Sox playing? Look at the rotation going into Texas, with the offense not hitting a thing.
“The Orioles are just playing with more energy. This comes from the Captain and the Manager, both of whom have to go after this season. Look at the schedule. The Yankees may miss the playoffs.”
Yeah because if the yanks go 12-12 from here out, Boston needs to go 22-2. Those are both definitely going to happen. Moron.
Let’s go offense!!! I hope they don’t wait until 2 outs in the 9th to realize oh we might lose this game let’s show a pulse. This is the loser O’s!! Let’s go!!!
Rishi September 8th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
GreenBeret7 September 8th, 2010 at 2:20 pm
Rishi, I didn?t mean for it to sound like Nova was some sort of Moseley type of pitcher. He?s going to be pretty decent, but, I?m just guessing it won?t be with the yanks long term
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I hear you…he’s been looking so far so good to me
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Yeah, he hasn’t done badly today at all. Hard to expect shutout pitching from a new rookie call-up when the veterans have done worse against the same team. Regardless of the 2 run homer, this is more of an offensive failure than anything else.
GoldGlove9486 September 8th, 2010 at 2:24 pm
The Orioles are just playing with more energy. This comes from the Captain and the Manager, both of whom have to go after this season. Look at the schedule. The Yankees may miss the playoffs.
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you are a moron.
# TheStraw September 8th, 2010 at 2:29 pm
“The Orioles are just playing with more energy. This comes from the Captain and the Manager, both of whom have to go after this season. Look at the schedule. The Yankees may miss the playoffs.”
Yeah because if the yanks go 12-12 from here out, Boston needs to go 22-2. Those are both definitely going to happen. Moron.
lol
I dont mind getting swept at home by the Nationals; but I mind getting swept at home by this filthy putrid low-class Orioles team.
Good -Matt-, go after bad Matt and tell him to pipe down.
Come on, CG go deep!
What is with the Yankees lineup ever since Arod returned to the heart of it
This makes no sense that they should go down so weakly at home to the Baltimore Orioles
This is harsh stuff to watch at the plate
They’re all like a bunch of Derek Jeter at the plate.
Its like since Arod came back the Yankee hitters just switched off
You might slip up in a game or 2 but the Orioles should not be sweeping a 1st place team
Yankee hitters better get their act together.
This guy is Bad Bergesen. Not Brad.
Maybe Granderson can get his hit of the week here…
I wouldn’t take Nova out, he looks great. He’s getting strikeouts and grounders at a high rate, keep him in there for a bit.
Yanks are listless…need a day off. Too many day games.
I dont mind getting swept at home by the Nationals; but I mind getting swept at home by this filthy putrid low-class Orioles team.
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Low class? You know Nyjer Morna plays for the Nats right? Unless i missed something, you have called every other team in the AL East a team of criminals. how bout just say, it sucks losing to the last place orioles?
Thanks for a good week Curtis. Back to the drawing board. Maybe he can bat right handed next week.
Bronx Jeers September 8th, 2010 at 2:29 pm
Nova bends, but he doesn’t break easily.
Unlike someone else…
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Javy or aj or both??
WIETERS YOU D-BAG OF COURSE YOU START HITTING NOW THAT I’M OUT OF THE PLAYOFFS. GAHH I’M GETTING MY MACHETE AND TAKING YOU TO CRYSTAL LAKE.
“# Bronx Jeers September 8th, 2010 at 2:29 pm
Nova bends, but he doesn’t break easily.
Unlike someone else…”
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Burnett hint, hint
Vazquez hint, hint
Thanks to those two bozos CC can’t even have an off night. Ugh
Tex, Robbie not hitting…Swish hurting…Alex not himself, Jete the same. Does that explain it?
“Nova bends, but he doesn’t break easily.
Unlike someone else…”
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does this someone have the initials AJ ?
This has the makings of a sweep…it seems inevitable…we just aren’t hitting, and the Orioles are…..to go into a 3-game series vs. Texas, with 3 mediocre pitchers after a horrid end to a homestand in the most important time of the season is really troubling…..especially following a strong 8-game win streak….the Yankees could have slowly been pulling away from TB and instead they’re regressing
Need a hit from Gardner here otherwise the inning is over with Jeter coming up. If he gets a pitch to hit he better swing.
The Orioles are just playing with more energy. This comes from the Captain and the Manager, both of whom have to go after this season. Look at the schedule. The Yankees may miss the playoffs.
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C’mon, now…lets not get hysterical. If the Yankees miss the playoffs who will beat them out? The White Sox? If Chicagi plays good enough to catch the Yankees then they will catch and pass the Twins for AL Central. The Red Sox? They are 9 games behind with less than 25 to go.
The Yankees will be in the playoffs and they know it…thats why they are playing without a sense of urgency. After the 8 game winning streak they knew they were in and just don’t have much to play for now.
This is the thing that scares me about this team. The offense just seems to slump all at the same time. Really the only guys who have been slump proof have been Cano and Swisher. I just worry that in a 5 game series that the bats might go silent for 3-4 games which will put an awful lot of pressure on the rotation which has it’s own problems. It seemed like last year at this point they weren’t still slumping like this but at least things can change.
When the Yankees start playing like this on offense it becomes an absolute torture to watch
Dead innings after dead innings after dead innings, up down, up down, up down
Brutal
Ouch!!
3 batters : .250
3 batters in .260s
0 batters in .270s
1 batter in .280s
1 batter in .290s
1 batter over .300
wow
Too many DPs lately.
Pathetic
He should’ve bunted for a triple.
Why is Brett so slow for a fast guy?
REALLY!?!?!?!
I was just using the Nationals as an example, without thinking about their individual players. However, Im sure Id be calling them the same things if they swept us at home. Heck, I was calling them names for beating us 2 of 3 last year at the Stadium. The Orioles and Blue Jays are criminals, no doubt about it. They have some nice young talented good guys like Markakis, Jones, Marcum, but most of them are filth. Primarily, Aaron Hill, Brian Roberts, and Bautista. Look at how Roberts just started that DP. All effort; something he aint showing versus another AL East team.
Of course it was a double play
OF COURSE it had to be
Unbelievably brutal….Gardner….just unreal
Gardner would have been out on that play anyway. Cervelli wasn’t within 10 feet of touching the bag.
“# Captain Clutch September 8th, 2010 at 2:35 pm
Need a hit from Gardner here otherwise the inning is over with Jeter coming up. If he gets a pitch to hit he better swing.”
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Well so much for that Double play
ROFL, I’m really trying to hang in their with the captain, but this has been his worse season since I saw him in the big leagues and it isn’t pretty to see.
ac1 – Also, Ive never called the Rays a team of criminals. The Rays are deserving of some respect.
jpb173 September 8th, 2010 at 2:36 pm
The Orioles are just playing with more energy. This comes from the Captain and the Manager, both of whom have to go after this season. Look at the schedule. The Yankees may miss the playoffs.
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They aren’t going to miss the playoffs. They have a playoff spot pretty much locked up in my mind. Now the division could be lost but they will still be in. Problems could come in the playoffs if they don’t get things figured out but I guarantee you no team wants the Yanks in the playoffs with CC and guys like Cano having great years.
You know things are bad when the roadrunner hits into a dp. Getting swept by this garbage team will be absolutely embarrassing. If they lose Girardi better be furious and call out this pathetic offense.
How is Brian roberts filth?? Your posts make no sense…really no sense!!
The Yankees have scored 6 runs in 23 innings against the worst pitching in the American League.
When you play like that against this kind of pitching, it seems a heck of a lot more like a team that is not taking the Orioles seriously than one that is slumping, especially considering they had no problem absolutely destroying the top of the league pitching thrown at them by the Oakland Athletics.
I’d would suggest taking more pitches to get Cy Bergerson out and get to the horrible baltimore bullpen but they’ve pitched lights out vs the yankees so far this series as well
and as i write this gardner, the fastest guy on the team, grounds into another DP….i guess he wants jeter to not have that title all to himself.
Hey folks why sweat it
He was just preventing the Captain from doing likewise
How does a team win 8 straight and then look like this at home
Wow.
“The Yankees will be in the playoffs and they know it…thats why they are playing without a sense of urgency. After the 8 game winning streak they knew they were in and just don’t have much to play for now.”
Actually, they know that the seven games with Tampa are the only ones that matter.
I wouldn’t take Nova out, he looks great. He’s getting strikeouts and grounders at a high rate, keep him in there for a bit.
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The Yankees have to watch out for Nova’s innings limit so they won’t push him. The most he ever pitched before this year was 148 innings. He is now at 167 innings (majors and minors combined). They probably want to limit him to about 170 or 175 innings.
It is odd how the Yankees get shut downy pitchers you have never heard of!!
“When the Yankees start playing like this on offense it becomes an absolute torture to watch
Dead innings after dead innings after dead innings, up down, up down, up down
Brutal”
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still, not nearly as bad as the post dynasty Torre years. That team was constantly just going through the motions.
first and second year players, have given this team much life in the past 2 years. Swisher too. Maybe it’s the dog days of august? I know the calendar says september. But for all intents & purposes, it’s still august
I think Javy’s trying his best to get the job done with whatever he’s got. The problem is that he’s doesn’t have much left.
AJ? The skill appears to be there. But as my grandmother used to say, nobody’s home but the wash and that’s out.
I wish they could combine AJ’s arm and Javy’s head. Together there might be something good enough to actually shut a team down.
I know we’ve been through it 1,000,000 times but Jeter just has to be hurt. There is no way you go from an MVP type year last year to this time of season. I know he is probably on the downhill part of his career and will start to lose it but I just don’t think a guy like that who keeps himself in great shape has lost it that quickly. I bet he hits around .300 next year but the days of .330 are probably gone which is alright lol.
In the games that the Yanks have lost recently there is always 1-3 dp’s. It seems to be the pattern for a loss.
I feel completely nauseous listening to this game at my desk. First of all, there are just too many day games, which is a joke. But this team is really like night and day. Against Oakland, it looked like they’d be cruising for a couple of weeks. Now, no one can hit already. It’s really incredible.
we’ve scored 5 in the whole damn series
“The Yankees will be in the playoffs and they know it…thats why they are playing without a sense of urgency. After the 8 game winning streak they knew they were in and just don’t have much to play for now.”
Actually, they know that the seven games with Tampa are the only ones that matter.
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And the games againts Tampa don’t really matter because both teams will be in the playoffs and will not play each other until the ALCS if they make past the ALDS.
3 batters : .250
3 batters in .260s
0 batters in .270s
1 batter in .280s
1 batter in .290s
1 batter over .300
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But Kevin Long is a genius…a guru!
These guys are pathetic. No in-game adjustments whatsoever.
At this pace, with our SP, we are looking at an early first round exit this October. Any pitcher, on any given night, can completely shut us down.
And while it’s been discussed ad-nauseum on this blog, Jeter needs to do something or take a few days off. His stubbornness to get healthy is destroying any chance of a rally for this team. It’s really pathetic.
Ground outs and GIDP are almost a foregone conclusion with RISP.
8 game winning streak, and we are on the way to giving 4 back. Pathetic, especially against the Orioles.
The DP’s are just piling up now.
2-4 in every game.
The offense is in full deep freeze mode and showing no signs of getting out of it anytime soon.
I’ve never seem a Yankee team in recent years in which all nine guys slump at the same time.
It’s why they have so many up and down offensive periods.
At this point, winning one game this week looks like it’s going to be a challenge.
It’s inexcusable to play this poorly against non-contending teams in September.
Certainly doesn’t bode well for the upcoming roadtrip.
Watching this game is giving me the bubble guts, just makes you nauseous seeing the type of ball the Yankees are playing against the 2nd WORST team in baseball
GreenBeret7 September 8th, 2010 at 2:30 pm
Rishi September 8th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
GreenBeret7 September 8th, 2010 at 2:20 pm
Rishi, I didn?t mean for it to sound like Nova was some sort of Moseley type of pitcher. He?s going to be pretty decent, but, I?m just guessing it won?t be with the yanks long term
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I hear you…he’s been looking so far so good to me
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Yeah, he hasn?t done badly today at all. Hard to expect shutout pitching from a new rookie call-up when the veterans have done worse against the same team. Regardless of the 2 run homer, this is more of an offensive failure than anything else.
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Agreed — he’s showing better than the others — don’t know what it takes to wake up a sleepy offense, but this is as easy as it’s going to get until the end of the season…if there is another gear, they need to find it quickly
I just saw BJ Upton’s homer against the Sox in the 6th inning last night…. WOW. He has pure power. Amazing a guy like him is struggling like he is. Absoultey amazing. He should be a .310, 30 homer, 30 steal guy.
“The Yankees have to watch out for Nova’s innings limit so they won’t push him. The most he ever pitched before this year was 148 innings. He is now at 167 innings (majors and minors combined). They probably want to limit him to about 170 or 175 innings”
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until/if Pettitte gets back, the Yankees don’t have that luxury. He has to pitch. He’s a good prospect but not a top echelon prospect. You take the risk
AJ? The skill appears to be there.
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The skull isn’t.
Javy isn’t much better.
This series is ALL ON THE umpires in the first 2 games and now in this game. They continued today right where they left off the past 2 days. The first 2 games were the HP Umpires, and today was the rest of ‘em.
Yesterday, we had the tying run up to the plate after Mark Teixeira took 5 straight balls in a plate appearance. Unfortunately, he was struck out by the umpire and away went out chances of winning the game.
I don’t worry about Yankee offense in the long run..you go through dead spells… If you want. To worry worry about starting pitching
“GoldGlove9486 September 8th, 2010 at 2:40 pm
I feel completely nauseous listening to this game at my desk.”
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ROFLMAO, I just posted the same thing
This is like having sea sickness and diarrhea at the same time
clownthrowindown September 8th, 2010 at 2:40 pm
3 batters : .250
3 batters in .260s
0 batters in .270s
1 batter in .280s
1 batter in .290s
1 batter over .300
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But Kevin Long is a genius…a guru!
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Kevin Long is a great hitting coach. Just look at how much he has improved Granderson with a simple adjustment so soon. But a hitting coach can only do so much. He can’t go up to bat with them and make them get a hit. This slumping isn’t Longs fault. It falls on the guys stepping up to the dish. Long isn’t the problem.
Cervalli is terrible! Wild pitch???
Where is the spark or leadership on this team?
It used to be Jeter, but not this year.
This ….. …. … loser just failed to block another ball. Cervelli is just not making any effort. He’s quitting! He’s showing no effort. That was an easy stop. Get your damn body in front of it.
Imagine if this team kept up playing as they should, and lost to Toronto (Phil was awful) and won the 2 games vs. Baltimore…this game would be bearable…now we deal with potentially being .5 games up on TB heading into Texas
This team is a real hit or miss.
They can reel off an 8 game winning streak and then go to sleep overnight.
Rishi, to wake’em up, I call for an on-field fight.
Can we call up Montero?
Hey, he got is body in front of that one. Yipppeee!
GreenBeret7 September 8th, 2010 at 2:44 pm
Rishi, to wake’em up, I call for an on-field fight.
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Maybe the yankees could beat up cervalli
It’s funny that people want Montero up so badly and you then realize that Wieters, who was thought to be as major league ready of a catcher as anybody for a long time, is only hitting like .255 with 11 HR…. I’d hate to hear the reaction of Yankee fans if Wieters was a Yank and was supposed to be a savior and hit like that….
Is this the New York Yankees we are watching or the New York Mets
Could fool me when it comes to the disappearing offense.
This is Nova’s last batter either way.
Cervelli again can’t catch the ball.
He refuses to put his body in front of the ball.
Pull him and put Moeller in there. If he can’t catch, he’s useless to this team.
They can’t hit, they have one starting pitcher, and now their catchers can’t catch the ball.
The wheels are definitely showing signs of coming off this team right now.
They are doing nothing right.
Hey!!! Let’s walk Cesar Izturis!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He’s so powerful!!
“The Yankees have to watch out for Nova’s innings limit so they won’t push him. The most he ever pitched before this year was 148 innings. He is now at 167 innings (majors and minors combined). They probably want to limit him to about 170 or 175 innings”
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until/if Pettitte gets back, the Yankees don’t have that luxury. He has to pitch. He’s a good prospect but not a top echelon prospect. You take the risk
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No, I don’t think the Yankees will take the risk with Nova. If they need another starter they can bring up Hector Noesi, who is already on the 40 man roster for a start. The fact of the matter is that the Yankees have a playoff spot locked up and aren’t going to take risks with their young pitchers…there simply isn’t anything to be gained by doing so.
I can’t take Cervelli behind the plate anymore. He is just plain pathetic. For a back up catcher who can’t hit at all what so ever he is costing them more runs being back there. Unless he is hitting .400to make up for it he shouldn’t be on this team. There is no way that Montero is worse than him behind the plate.
CR9 September 8th, 2010 at 2:43 pm
This ….. …. … loser just failed to block another ball. Cervelli is just not making any effort. He’s quitting! He’s showing no effort. That was an easy stop. Get your damn body in front of it
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Sounds like he’d be perfect to play for the angels or blue jays next year so he can do that when they play the redsox
watch the orioles score here – something the yankees find hard to do when given the opportunities
I agree its up to the players to execute. Granderson a success though? No way. He’s still only batting .247.
come on Nova
despite the fact that the Yankees will make the playoffs…the games against Tampa matters because I think that it is in their best interest to have home field up until the WS. They play much better at home then on the road…so yea the Tampa games matter. They can’t just mail in the next 20 games
Can we call up Montero?
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No, he’s not on the 40 man roster.
6 innings stand up!
This is like the World Series Game 7, 9th inning for the Orioles
They will treausure a sweep at Yankees Stadium and feel it signifies their Renaissance for next season
Nice play by the “aging crappy” captain.
GreenBeret7 September 8th, 2010 at 2:44 pm
Rishi, to wake?em up, I call for an on-field fight.
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Girardi needs to get thrown out again to get a reaction???
overall this was a good start from our #6 starter. considering the missed call at 1st before the HR, it should be 1-1.
I give Nova a lot of credit for today’s game…..against a garbage team, he still showed solid stuff……he’s entitled to 1 missed pitch for a 2-run shot…..the Yankees need to score more than 1 run…..
Well Nova did well today. Time to let the Pen take over.
Come on Yanks, start hitting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SPTimesRays Looks like Monday night at the Trop will be #Yanks Sabathia vs. #Rays Price. Wow.
3 minutes ago via txt
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that should be Nova’s last inning
Nice job Nova. 6 IP, 2ER. Can’t expect much more
# jpb173 September 8th, 2010 at 2:47 pm
Can we call up Montero?
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No, he’s not on the 40 man roster.
Then put him on it. Reegie Corona could go bye bye. Put Ace and Marte on the 60 day DL.
Cervelli could be a good defensive catcher. He’s just not showing any effort. That’s all it is. Simple. Effort. Effort. IT doesnt take much to block a damn ball and get your body in front of it. Especially the last wild pitch. All it is is effort, and this ….. ….. ….. loser better start showing some.
When Granderson was having trouble with a long swing and catching up to the heat, he went to Kevin Long and they made an adjustment to his swing to make him shorter and to the ball.
Maybe it’s time for Jeter to acknowledge his diminished bat speed and do the same thing.
Even A-Rod you notice is starting his swing with his hands closer to his body, and it’s allowing him to be a lot quicker to fastballs on the inner half.
Jeter is getting beaten by even league average fastballs this year, and pitchers are challenging him every time up there and he can’t make them pay.
This team is bi-polar.
Manic in an 8 game winning streak…depressive in a possible sweep by the worst team in baseball that thinks they’re good.
The cure is consistent good pitching, which we don’t have.
Last year’s staff was better.
That was a nice catch by Jeter.
Now let’s see if we can get the bats going a little.
Nova did his job.
Best performance by a starting pitcher in a week.
Too bad he can’t hit.
“wicked cold” describes the offense this week pretty well.
Jeter doesn’t have to go to Long because he’s an “instinctive” hitter.
clownthrowindown September 8th, 2010 at 2:46 pm
I agree its up to the players to execute. Granderson a success though? No way. He’s still only batting .247.
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Since Long shortened his swing he has been a success. His average is over .300 since that adjmustment. And the credit for that goes to K-Long along with Grandy implementing it.
Nice job by Nova. He’s really the second best performing pitcher on the staff right now until Andy comes back…
“# Matt September 8th, 2010 at 2:48 pm
Jeter is getting beaten by even league average fastballs this year, and pitchers are challenging him every time up there and he can’t make them pay.”
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I definitely notice that about Jeter
The other day a Toronto reliever blew a ball right by him down the middle on a 3-1 count, when everyone knew fastball was coming
Derek has lost bat speed without a doubt.
# mick September 8th, 2010 at 2:48 pm
This team is bi-polar.
Manic in an 8 game winning streak…depressive in a possible sweep by the worst team in baseball that thinks they’re good.
The cure is consistent good pitching, which we don’t have.
Last year’s staff was better.
You have to score runs. What the hell are you talking about?
you mean to tell me that we can’t score two more damn runs off of Baltimore in the next 4 innings
Reading all the comments, there seems to be an emerging consensus that the Yankee offense goes through collective
cyclesslumps like asorority housesingle organism.Time to break out of that pattern.
I think it’s a riot that someone calls the Orioles a garbage team when they are 7-3 in their last 10 games and have the best record in the AL East since Showalter took over. It may be that you need to retool your definition of garbage.
“# Tyler September 8th, 2010 at 2:48 pm
Nice job Nova. 6 IP, 2ER. Can’t expect much more”
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Solid job by the kid, unlike Burnett and Vazquez
Too bad the lineup is once again forgotten how to hit
The offense is just way too inconsistent.
Tex is in a funk.
The captain tried but he was behind the ball once again. The bat speed is not there to catch up to these fastballs. Another easy inning for the scrub pitcher.
“They will treausure a sweep at Yankees Stadium and feel it signifies their Renaissance for next season”
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lol
No team has ever gone 7-3 in their last 10 games and NOT gone on to greatness. FACT.
This Orioles team isn’t even good enough to be called garbage. Garbage is too kind a word for them. Criminals is too kind a word for them. They’re putrid, scummy filth.
We’re just going down without a fight against a loser named Bad Bergesen.
Hello Wild Card.
this is really borderline unwatchable it’s so pathetic…geez these cheap weak hacks like Cy Young is out there on the mound
Tough afternoon for Teixeira.
Tex was on fire during the 8 game streak.
Now he is cold as ice.
He carried the team, maybe that’s the answer.
Can we call up Montero?
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No, he’s not on the 40 man roster.
Then put him on it. Reegie Corona could go bye bye. Put Ace and Marte on the 60 day DL.
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The problem with putting him on the 40 man roster is they couldn’t take him off the 40 man roster after the season without subjecting him to the waiver process (where they would lose him). The Yankees have too many players to put on the psotseason 40 man roster in order to protect them from the Rule 5 draft and Montero doesn’t need to be protected. Reeggie Corono will priobably be taken off the 40 man roster after the season the clear a spot for someone who needs to be protected.
Both Aceves and Marte already are on the 40 man roster.
http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com.....p?c_id=nyy
Woohoo!!! Jeter hit the ball in the air…that’s got to make him worth at least $25M a year!
I can’t believe how the Yankees can make crap pitchers look like all stars. Simply amazing!
Not enough on that one. It went pretty far for being off the end of the bat. Jeter had a good swing, too.
Trisha,
It’s the randomness of a 162 game season.
The Pirates twice have won 8 of 10 games this season and are still a terrible team.
Even bad teams have good weeks or even a good month.
That said, the Orioles aren’t a good team and it’s inexcusable for the Yankees to be swept at home, and not hit a lick, against this team.
The only hitters in today’s lineup even putting up competitive at bats are A-Rod and Berkman.
When A-Rod comes back, it almost seems like half the guys in this lineup stop grinding out at bats because they think that A-Rod will pick up the slack if they don’t get it done.
Kearns was a big part of the success, with the way he was working deep counts and getting on base a lot during that stretch. Maybe it’s time to sit some of these slumping players and start playing the hot hand.
The only batter on the entire team doing anything is Alex, and every damn one of his hard hit balls is just an out, right at someone or just missing homers.
Both Aceves and Marte already are on the 40 man roster.
http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com…..p?c_id=nyy
Oops, should read:
Both Aceves and Marte already are on the 60 day DL.
“# syd_cash September 8th, 2010 at 2:50 pm
you mean to tell me that we can’t score two more damn runs off of Baltimore in the next 4 innings”
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Right now this game seems like an A.J. Burnett deficit
This is comical to say the least
Each and every Yankee hitter should be embarrassed at what is going on here
All we need is Brian Bullington to complete the embarrassment.
Do you know since Bullington pitched 8 innings of shutout baseball against the Yankees
vs White Sox – 5 IP, 11 H, 6 ER
vs Indians – 4 IP, 9 H, 7 ER
vs Texas – 5.1, 8 H, 4 ER
His win against us remains his only career victory
Our eyes aren’t deceiving us about this offense
Freaking pathetic.
jpb: You protect a player if you want to keep them, not for the hell of it. Montero will have to be on the 40 man sometime next season anyways, might as well do it now.
This offense plus AJ, Vazquez and Moseley pitching against Texas in that ballpark where the ball flies out of there will equal a sweep if this pathetic offense doesn’t wake up. It’s very hard to watch them get shut down by garbage every day..
The Yanks had some chemistry last week with Thames and Tex mashing.
They hit a peak and Balt caught them at the right time.
No way we lose this.
We will crush them
hallelujah el capitan hit the ball out of the infield.
this team is acting like they are facing koufax and drysdale.
sleepwalking again.
tex is totally lost… jeter is jeter.. swisher stinks lately and ditto for cano…
they need to wake up fast……
Do you think Tom Berenger a Yankee fan?
If so I say call him up and ask him if he could deliver 9 buckets of fried chicken to this line-up.
Listless. Like an aging team in need of a collective day off to catch their breath.
That winning streak took a lot out of them.
# jpb173 September 8th, 2010 at 2:55 pm
Both Aceves and Marte already are on the 40 man roster.
http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com…..p?c_id=nyy
Oops, should read:
Both Aceves and Marte already are on the 60 day DL.
Sucks. This team could use a spark On O.
Everyone needs to stop calling it a slump. When a guy is hitting .260 in September, it means he sucks. Cano is in a slump but Jeter, Tex, Arod, Berkman, Posada and Granderson are having horrible seasons hitting for average. Maybe Arod gets a pass due to injuries but the others are just bad.
Hey, Roberts didnt run to 1st after strike 3. wow, he didnt show 100% effort for once.
Showalter is getting the rings and champagne ready for the 9th inning.
i just feel bad for Nova….at least AJ and CC gave up a bunch of runs….this kid gives up 2 runs and we can’t score for him
If players are hurt and it’s affecting their hitting, they need to sit out a few games and get healthy before the Yankees face the Rays.
Swisher is clearly affected by his knee right now, so sit him out another day or two and play Kearns in right field. Jeter is clearly hurting now, so sit him for a day or two and play Nunez in his place. It’d be hard for Nunez to be much worse than Jeter offensively anyway, and as you can see A-Rod looks much sharper at the plate now that he is playing closer to 100% after sitting out some extra games.
The injured players are hurting the team by playing through it, and would be helping the team more by getting healthy so they play more up to their capabilities down the stretch. When you have a deep enough bench to play solid players in their place, it’s gotta be done.
“# Gehrig27 September 8th, 2010 at 2:58 pm
No way we lose this.
We will crush them”
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LOL, right now the Yankees lineup couldn’t crush a cotton candy at a fair
This is just awful to watch, the Yankees are playing the way the Orioles should be playing.
Macfan – Who is Brian Bullington? I know a Royals pitcher named Brian Crappington!
Everyone needs to stop calling it a slump. When a guy is hitting .260 in September, it means he sucks. Cano is in a slump but Jeter, Tex, Arod, Berkman, Posada and Granderson are having horrible seasons hitting for average. Maybe Arod gets a pass due to injuries but the others are just bad.
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Yet how does this team have the best record in baseball?
(They still have it, might as well talk about it while we can)
If I can interrupt for one moment.
Great job by Nova today. What’s not to like about this kid?
OK, carry on with the whining and moaning.
Horrific team-wide slump #97 continues.
Getting 3-hit and swept by the pathetic Orioles at home: priceless.
How long before free-falling Cano joins the .260 club, which has practically every other multi-millionaire slump-monkey on the team?
They will treausure a sweep at Yankees Stadium and feel it signifies their Renaissance for next season
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Take it easy Voltaire.
/Swingers’d
Hey, Roberts didnt run to 1st after strike 3. wow, he didnt show 100% effort for once.
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Yeah and the “great” Showalter will probably fine him for not showing all out effort against the pinstripes. Doesn’t Roberts know that against the Yanks every inning has to be treated like the 9th inning of the world series.
jpb: You protect a player if you want to keep them, not for the hell of it. Montero will have to be on the 40 man sometime next season anyways, might as well do it now.
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The Yankees want to protect about 10 guys who are available for the rule 5 draft. I’m not sure they are going to protect them all so they have tough decisions to make…I don’t see them accelerating Montero who won’t need protection for 2 years.
If they want/need to put Montero on the 40 man roster they can do so after the Rule 5 draft is complete in December. They will have to dump someone at that time but thats a better time to DFA someone than now.
Put in Kearns…He is the Golden Ticket today.
“# Captain Clutch September 8th, 2010 at 2:59 pm
Showalter is getting the rings and champagne ready for the 9th inning.”
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LOL, glory days are back in Baltimore, move over Palmer, Cuellar, McNally
The O’s are back
Lord help us this is awful to watch.
Good Job by DRob!
Now Hit Yankees Hit!
So the schnook that proclaimed Brian Crappington to be a good young pitcher during his only career victory versus us, is nothing more than a moron!
# clownthrowindown September 8th, 2010 at 2:59 pm
Everyone needs to stop calling it a slump. When a guy is hitting .260 in September, it means he sucks. Cano is in a slump but Jeter, Tex, Arod, Berkman, Posada and Granderson are having horrible seasons hitting for average. Maybe Arod gets a pass due to injuries but the others are just bad.
Could careless what they did from April to August. No excuses now when you’re trying to win a Division. Lance and A-Rod are picking it up. Everyone else? I don’t know what to say.
LET’S GO YANKEES!!!!
“CR9 September 8th, 2010 at 3:00 pm
Macfan – Who is Brian Bullington? I know a Royals pitcher named Brian Crappington!”
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LOL, guy looked like Koufax against us that day in Kansas City
Could do no wrong, kind of like today
What a surprise.
LOL, right now the Yankees lineup couldn’t crush a cotton candy at a fair
This is just awful to watch, the Yankees are playing the way the Orioles should be playing.
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Who cares!!! The playoffs don’t start until October.
Really fine inning by Robertson. He doesn’t even closely resemble the pitcher in the first 2 months of the season.
Maybe the Yanks can actually get a hit against the great Orioles bullpen.
They should re-name this blog: the Bridgejumpers Forum. Wow.
Relax everyone. A one run deficit against the O’s does not mean automatic defeat.
Kearns is hurt. Bad thumb.
Yet how does this team have the best record in baseball?
They rode great starting pitching most of the year, have had excellent relief pitching lately and have done just enough around Cano, Swisher and Gardner to score enough. But since the starters, Cano and Swisher have cooled off, the rest of the offense has really been exposed.
My gut feels like today could be a walk off win day. Or maybe I’m just hungry?
MASN showing all the O’s highlights….KISS Of DEATH.
Not to worry.
We will get hot and go on a win streak soon.
Cano.
Now we get them. (just trying for good karma here!)
I’m waiting on that comeback
Somebody has to take this guy deep!
Here is the truth: They Yankees have the team to win the WS this year, definitely. Whether or not they can actually compete at a high level in the playoffs to actually DO IT, is a different matter completely. Getting swept at home by the worst team in the AL when heading towards the end of the season is NOT a good sign. 3 innings to score a couple of runs and beat the O’s is the TICKET ! Come on Yankees, what do you got ????
A win here changes everything. Mentally.
and THERE is the start ! Sweet !
Buck sees all. How did each Oriole react to that soft single? Buck was watching.
Swisher..
“My gut feels like today could be a walk off win day. Or maybe I’m just hungry?”
I’m happy to go with your gut feeling and not hunger. The only hunger we have is hunger for the win!
“My gut feels like today could be a walk off win day. Or maybe I’m just hungry?”
I’m happy to go with your gut feeling and not hunger. The only hunger we have is hunger for the win!
calling it – DP swisher -
(jinx)
A baserunner against the great Orioles!!! Woohoo!!!
mick, you are SO RIGHT !
There’ll be no sweep folks
I don’t think Cano can hit anything but a line drive single to the left fielder
Not that I can complain, but still
kinda funny
i swear if there is a double play I am turning the TV off
Need to score at least one run. It would be a shame for Nova to take a loss from this.
“# Chambliss September 8th, 2010 at 3:04 pm
They should re-name this blog: the Bridgejumpers Forum. Wow.
Relax everyone. A one run deficit against the O’s does not mean automatic defeat.”
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The issue isn’t the deficit its the Yankees offense and its approach
Everyone knows they can go down easily inning after inning like clockwork
and when they do get men on they find a way to kill the inning.
I am glad Bergeson with a 5+ era is hitting corners in the 7th inning
WHAT????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????/
1 out? Perfect time for a double play
Would Joe G get fired up? Do something damn.
This is a job for Thames.
That was low. LOW! Nowhere near a strike! This scumpile Bad Bergesen just got handed that call. SICK!
How many obvious balls are going to be called strikes during our losing streak ? That just S’CKS !
Hey you have the three pats (well two pats and a trisha) calling for the win. So just stand pat (pun intended) and have faith!
Thames PH and lose the DH?
Swish to 1st, Curtis in right.
We can’t see the body language of the Orioles’ outfielders during the pitching change — but Buck can.
Girardi has to pinch hit for Berkman with Thames here. Berkman is hitting under .200 on the season vs. LHP and almost always hits a ground ball from that side of the plate.
This ump is a joke. It’s about time one of the batters say’s something to the ump so Girardi can get thrown out. He has given Bergeson the other batters box all game long. The Yankee batters are too soft.
Grandy will never see a righty in Oct.
CR9…..That was a money pitch, and it was too close to be caught looking……
Right now the offense has reached the pathetic stage.
It’s either DP’s or K’s looking.
Dominated by a poor Orioles pitching staff at home.
No excuses for this. They deserve their fate.
Berman can’t hit lefties, time for Thames…
Brad freaking Bergerson…never even heard of this guy
Berkman.
“Hey, Roberts didnt run to 1st after strike 3. wow, he didnt show 100% effort for once.”
If he was facing Boston, he would have walked back to the batter’s box when there were only 2 strikes on him.
“Who cares!!! The playoffs don’t start until October.”
You go! That’s the attitude I like.
Miss Steak.
sticking with berkman instead of thames?
This will be an easy out. Berkman stinks batting right handed and it will probably be a dp.
Who cares how close the calls were.
Swisher took three FBs at 89 right over the heart of the plate.
Something’s wrong with him – he’s being tentative instead of crushing that garbage.
Don’t blame the umps. Swish needs to swing the bat and trust himself.
So Berkman doesn’t have a HR as a Yankee yet……now would be an opportune time
The amount of negativity around here is really kind of stunning….
Swish is playing on 1 leg.
Where’s Thames?
Bad numbers against Hendrickson is my guess.
Over managing here.
Add to it, the entire lineup is swinging at balls in the dirt.
Thames should be PH’ing here.
Girardi says no Thames? Hmmm
Girardi please don’t ever let Berkman hit righty ever again this season. His swing is UGLY.
awesome AB.
The amount of negativity around here is really kind of stunning….
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It’s what happens when you expect to win every game.
“# trisha – true pinstriped blue September 8th, 2010 at 3:11 pm
“Who cares!!! The playoffs don’t start until October.”
You go! That’s the attitude I like.”
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Just remember, Yankees have never won a title as a Wild Card team
Wild Cards usually end ugly for us
I wouldn’t take the division for granted
This team is as flat as a dead lizard on the interstate.
Girardi needs to start managing these games like they matter.
How can you let Berkman hit there? That’s just totally throwing away an at bat in a one run game at home in September. Just terrible.
Thames…
Ace September 8th, 2010 at 3:10 pm
Grandy will never see a righty in Oct.
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Granderson is batting .319 verses lefties since the All-Star break.
Berkman sucks right handed and Thames should have been the hitter!
Tex should have started at 1B so they could have PH…Ugggggge
i do expect to win every game…and I can cope with losing a few games but 3 in a row to the Orioles is a little bit much for me….
Patrick September 8th, 2010 at 3:12 pm
The amount of negativity around here is really kind of stunning….
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The mood goes the way the game goes. What do you expect? Should we applaud this series? What exactly should we applaud?
There is only so many times you can say, good news is we will make the playoffs and this team CAN hit most of the time.
“# Patrick September 8th, 2010 at 3:12 pm
The amount of negativity around here is really kind of stunning….”
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The performance of the Yankees at home, in a pennant race, against the 2nd worst team in baseball is even more stunning.
Schowalter will win Manager of the Year if this keeps up.
He brings in Hendrickson, you make him look like a genius by sticking with your weakest RH bat.
NOW we bring in Thames against the RH pitcher?
Patrick – negativity…..yes….but c’mon, how can you not be negative…..An 8-game win streak….TB is finally faltering…..WE FACE BALTIMORE…..WE HAVE A DOMINANT LINEUP….this is how we play? There is no excuse. This ain’t April, where we’re still getting our footing…it’s truly pathetic and embarrassing. Negativity has to be present here…..we’re losing out on a huge lead to both Boston and Tampa…Girardi is a monotonous bum
Idiot Girardi, how much dumber does it get than this.
He doesn’t pinch hit against a garbage left hander for a garbage hitter against LHP when the lefty HAS to stay in to face the hitter, but instead chooses to wait until Granderson comes up, when Showalter can take out the lefty and bring in the righty anyway.
Just got totally outmanaged. And for clueless Girardi, Granderson has actually been hitting lefties much better than righties lately, so might want to try pinch hitting for the guy hitting under .200 against them on the season instead of the one hitting .250?
# Patrick from CT September 8th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
Berkman sucks right handed and Thames should have been the hitter!
Tex should have started at 1B so they could have PH…Ugggggge
Damn has it gotten that bad? Joe G should structure the lineup to have Thames get one at bat late in the game? Man have the mighty Yankees fallen in a couple days.
I can’t believe that Girardi just gave away an out in the 7th inning of a 1 run game. I really hope that the Cubs come after him next year and blow him away with an offer he can’t refuse. He manages like Torre did in the later years. Is there a couch in the dugout for him also?
Don’t like these moves! Joe is getting out managed!
Granderson hits lefties better than Berkman and now Thames hiting against a righty.
maybe they will win, maybe they will not, but i dont see how anyone can say we should be happy today to watch this.
Girardi had to leave Berkman in there, otherwise he would’ve had to have executed a quadruple switch which would have included putting Montero on the 40-man.
Managing is tricky.
Thames should have hit for Berkman, not Granderson.
Ah yes how could I forget, it’s Girardi’s fault that these guys can’t hit. Right right…
There is no excuse for dropping three straight to Baltimore at home. None. Zero. This team is awful right now.
I am not trying to make excuses for the Yankees, just state an observation. It appears as if major league teams take a different approach to hitting on getaway day, and the umps do too. Work the count? No chance. Big strike zone? All game. This game is 1 1/2 hours old and we are in the 7th inning. Never fails on getaway day.
Nevertheless, getting swept at home versus the O’s would be embarassing. Need a nice walkoff win to make everyone feel better.
Look at these losers throwing strikes. They cant do anything but walk red sox batters, but here they are throwing strikes and attempting to paint corners.
Don’t lets forget about Joe leaving Burnett in the game to prove a point the other day and he promptly gave the lead right back
I was shaking my head seeing Burnett come back out because we all knew what could follow and did.
Shake my head once again.
What are you talking about?
It’s certainly Girardi’s fault that he allows a guy who is hitting under .200 on the season vs. LHP to bat against a LHP when he has Marcus Thames on the bench, ESPECIALLY when that pitcher has to stay in to face at least one hitter.
Pinch hitting for the guy hitting over .300 vs. LHP since the ASB instead of the one hitting under .200 against them on the season is just foolish.
Yeah out managed huh? Just shut up.
PH for Cervelli?
Posada PH?
3-4 new bats during the winter. They simply cannot ignore the offense this winter.
This is inexcuseable and it has been going on all year, except it has never been as embarrassing as it is now.
Thames gets a hit.
Should have been in there for Berkman.
what’s Buck complaining about
Cervelli…
3-4 new bats during the winter. They simply cannot ignore the offense this winter.
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And where are they going to play?
Getting Cliff Lee is Priority #1. Has to be.
Here comes more deadwood, Blowvelli
I really wish Girardi hadn’t given Berkman the strikeout sign.
On the positive side, Thames has been terrific.
and no Posada PH ?….Yes Cervelli is who you want up right now….gee I wonder what’ll happen ?
Thames is on fire. No need to play matchups with him.
cervelli’s hitting 8-{
HA. didnt see that coming.
No Po?
well would look at….splendid
Cervelli? Does Girardi have money on this game?
Thames is a breath of fresh air in this line-up.
GREAT MANAGING JOE !
Buck is complaining that the Orioles don’t get the honor of playing and losing to the red sox 162 games in a season.
Just a first pitch swing. Why didnt he take a pitch or two and hope that another catcher would be as lazy as him and fail to block a pitch.
Cervelli should be traded this offseason. He has failed to make any adjustments….
Again, can we call up Montero?
Wow, why was Cervelli hitting? Terrible call.
Sigh…..
Why not pinch hit for Cervelli? Are you kidding me, Girardi?
Yes, outmanaged, because Berkman K’d weakly in front of that hit by Thames in a totally needless non-move by Girard in a one run game.
And what in the world is Girardi doing letting Cervelli hit?
Does Girardi even think these games matter? Because they definitely matter a lot, this is a totally different team playing at home versus on the road and it’s been a season-long trend. Taking the division could make a huge difference in their chances of making it to the World Series this year.
Where was Posada?
Wow, was Girardi in the bathroom when Cervelli was announced?
Girardi got lost in that inning. He slept through that one.
Is Girardi drunk??? Why isnt Posada hitting for Cervelli???!?!?!?!? Girardi just gave away 2 outs in the 7th inning. He is an absolute moron. Good job Cervelli swinging at the 1st pitch.
On the positive side, Thames has been terrific.
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Yes…and he’s inexpensive. The Yankees should give him a raise and bring him back next year.
How the heck do u let Cervelli hit?
I guess Girardi was saving Posada for the 10th.
Minka’s Dog Day Afternooner.
http://gawker.com/5632121/mink.....8Gawker%29
No Posada? Girardi doesn’t need to worry about choosing between NY and the Cubs, he’ll be managing minor leaguers in San Antonio…if he’s lucky.
I’m nominating Matt as the new Yankee manager. He’ll be sure to send the hit sign on every batter.
Girardi will be happy to turn the calendar to 5771 after that inning.
Joe G has the Cubs job on his mind.
Wow. You have a one-game lead in the division, looking at a sweep by the last-place Orioles in a three game series in which you have scored a grand total of 6 runs, and you let Francisco bleeping Cervelli hit while you have a borderline hall of fame catcher sitting in the dugout? And a third catcher on the roster?
But hey, Cervelli has at least , what, 6 hits his last 200 or so at bats?
Nice.
And now we get Thames in LF…
I think Joe forgot to take his ginkgo today.
Also, I would have rather have had Thames pinch hit for Berkman than for Granderson. They both suck against lefty and now our defense is worse. Girardi is just horrible with the lineup.
watch the genius girardi now put moeller in at catcher…..i really think the yankees won last year in spite of girardi and not because of him – and he keeps thames in? i know he wants to keep the bat in there but if that was the case then sit swisher (who is obviously hurt) and play thames the entire game..
Seriously Girardi? I called a first pitch groundball by Cervelli and he didn’t disappoint. What’s wrong with Posada? Are both his legs broken?
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First pitch for Cervelli. Brilliant!
WTF was Joe thinking there. Now I’m starting to get pissed off.
This team craps its pants with RISP and wastes more leadoff runners than nearly any I can remember.
Does Thames in LF make any sense to anyone? Does Cervelli hitting for himself with two catchers on the bench make any sense?
We pull granderson but not .02 hitting Cervelli….I would repeat that but it only makes me mad.
Girardi has completely lost me as of today. How can he possibly not pinch hit Posada for Cervelli in that situation?
I’m not entirely convinced Girardi will be back next season. He’s been brutal at times this yr.
Girardi can’t manage. I really really hope the Cubs offer him a gigantic contract. He slept threw this whole series.
Joe Girardi seriously has to go. He needs to fire up the team, and wake up in the dugout. Torre never would have done that. No one would. Any of us could have managed this game better. WHY DON’T THE STEINBRENNERS EVER INTERVENE????
it doesn’t make sense to PH for Grandy and then not for Cervelli, what was the point in that
Right now the Yankees look STINK on offense
I can deal with losing, but to face the prospect of getting swept at home by the Orioles, the Orioles,
R U kidding me.
Just pitiful stuff and no amount of homerism can alter that.
In a pennant race good teams shouldn’t be swept by bottom feeders.
Moreover the Yankees schedule gets much harder from here
You know the BloSux will want to at least spoil the Yankees division chances and the Yankees pitching of Burnett, Vazquez, Hughes/Mosely combo is to be weary of
Then of course their is the offense. Today is Exhibit A of a noticeable up down pattern with them for a while now.
Don’t worry, still time to pull this one out. However with the remaining schedule, there’s a strong chance they’ll be in the playoffs, starting off in the open air stadium in Minneapolis in October.
Now if they do lose today, if Cashman is around, he should give the team a little verbal whipping like he did in Atlanta, when rookie hanson shut them down and Posada earned the Golden Sombrero!
Cervelli has jumped the shark….
Too many key players having bad years (avg. wise) at the same time: Jeter; Posada; A-Rod; Teixeira all hitting in the .260′s.
That won’t get it done in this league.
This definitely is not a fun game to watch. And if I feel that way I can imagine how some of the rest of you are feeling.
Didn’t say they won’t come back. Just saying that it would be more fun if they didn’t have to make this a game, so to speak.
a real head scratcher there. cervelli hit. WTF. WHY?
girardi takes resting guys to insane levels. moeller could catch if he did not want to wear jorge out.
BTW great AB by the catcher of the future. Way to work the count…
this team is in a coma…
wheres posada in that situation! omg girardi your an idiot
Granderson benched facing Hendrickson but Cervelli in a 2-out spot gets an at-bat against a power pitcher. Wow. I don’t get on managers but what was that?
Having Berkman bat in that situation is as dumb as leaving Burnett in the game the other day to lose it for you.
Why is Posada not PH for Cervelli?
If not Posada, Colin Curtis.
A complete breakdown from the top down with this team.
Dumbell managing at it
Cervelli earned the at bat with his stellar defense this afternoon.
Girardi is something else. What a meathead.
Hey guys, Cervelli blocked a ball, with NOBODY ON BASE! Alright Cervy, great baseball sense!! YEAH!
GI Joe is in a slump too. He did not play that right at all.
Thames hits for Berkman and Posada hits for Cervelli.
Did Girardi go to the bathroom for the first part of that inning and forget to tell Thames and Posada to get ready to PH? How in the world could a major league manager forget to make those moves in that spot, especially when he has an expanded roster with a ton of bench players to choose from?
Cervelli has been one of the worst players in Major League Baseball since the beginning of June, and Berkman may be one of the worst hitters in all of MLB against LHP. You cannot expect those guys to provide anything, use your head.
…runner at third and Cervelli hits with Posada available to pinch hit… and another cather on the bench.
Joe…what the hell?
“# comet September 8th, 2010 at 3:24 pm
Does Thames in LF make any sense to anyone? Does Cervelli hitting for himself with two catchers on the bench make any sense?”
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These are only questions the manager can answer with an off day tomorrow
What is he thinking exactly
Joe has put it in cruise control since that 8 game streak…playing for a Wild Card.
Girardi is proof that managers lose games, players win them.
Watching Buck manage vs. Girardi… it is no contest. Buck makes astute strategic moves that put his awful team in position to win. Girardi tries to play “unconventional” TLR type managing to show everyone how smart he is for doing the exact opposite of the logical thing. He is trying to be the Bill Bellicheat of MLB, except he is more like Norv Turner – a mediocre headman with superior talent to overcome it.
Girardi is indeed a meathead, seriously SJ44 would easily be a better MGR ! What stinks is that they could still get hot at the end of the season and in the playoffs and win another WS and the illusion that it has ANYTHING to do with Jughead Joe will continue !
Maybe we can trade for Joe Maddon. Seriously.
FIRE GIRARDI
Please…just fire him….bring in some new blood, or even just see if we can lure back Torre, apologize…make nice, and end his career where it should be ended….in NY, with Jeter/Andy (1 more year), Mo and Posada….
Girardi really is a goofy moronic idiot
SJ44-
Is that really you? Give me the name of your nephew in one minute or less, or I’ll consider you the fake SJ! LOL.
This game is ours to win!
this loss is on the offense and girardi who I like. his moves last inning are indefensible.
like others have mentioned I would have pinch hit for berkman not granderson and leaving cervelli in is staggering.
the 3 loser pitchers going in texas for the yanks they need to win this game..
Gehrig27 September 8th, 2010 at 3:21 pm
Cervelli should be traded this offseason. He has failed to make any adjustments….
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Who would want him???
“# Captain Clutch September 8th, 2010 at 3:25 pm
Girardi can’t manage. I really really hope the Cubs offer him a gigantic contract. He slept threw this whole series.”
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The Cubs and him will be a perfect match, Those lovable losers will enjoy him, while they sing his praises in deficits during the 7th inning stretch at Wrigley
Girardi has been brutal in this series.
Po has K’d 5 out of 8 pinch hit AB’s. By the Book Joe.
Keep it here and all we need is a bloop and a blast – then pie in the face.
Girardi is trying very hard to demonstrate that Showalter is a genius. Should be an interesting flight to Texas, as team “Hanging On” tries to show they’re not the Padres of the A.L.
syd_cash September 8th, 2010 at 3:25 pm
it doesn’t make sense to PH for Grandy and then not for Cervelli, what was the point in that
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girardi’s post game explanation:
I was keeping jorgy for a pinch hit opportunity in the 12th inning, plus cervy was looking good behind the plate, he only let 2 balls pass him today and he had that “look” in his eye that he was going to bust out offensively in that situation. I liked what i saw out of cervy today and we will continue to have him hit with the game on the line in the 7th inning or later.
Why use a manager if we’re going to do everything by statistics? Insane. Someone’s got to scream at someone after this loss.
that was a bonehead move by Girardi. I sure hope he’s planning on having all the regulars available each game against the Rays in the upcoming two series-home field advantage, while not a requirement to get to the WS sure would help.
Its kinda funny reading this board today…you guys are really freaking out about a meaningless game against Baltimore. The Yankees know they have wrapped up a playoff spot and simply aren’t playing with the urgency that they have for most of the season.
The playoffs don’t start until October!!!
People pay way too much for tickets to have the team pack it in before a road trip. Good news is that Robertson seems to be getting back on track.
The pieces are just about in place for this team to win it all again.
Yes, hitting has been crappy lately, but during the 8 game win streak hitting was not a problem. This team will hit.
Bullpen-check-locked and loaded with Mo, Logan, Wood, Joba and Robertson.
Starting pitching is the question. Beyond CC, there are many question marks. Andy is the key. If he comes back strong and they can get decent starting pitching from two out of Hughes, Javy and AJ, #28 is not too far away. If CC has to go at it alone, the Yanks will be lucky to get to the ALCS.
Unless PO is hurt, Girardi is a complete bonehead…Your #9 hitter is coming up late in the game with the game on the line and not only do you let him bat, but you give him the green light on the 1st pitch ? My daughter’s softball coach knows better than that !
Why is Thames in LF?
Holy crap!
Why is not Curtis out there?
Cervalli batting?? Strangest move of the year?? Is posada hurt?? Makes no sense
Still six outs left. Not insurmountable.
Who is up next?
I wonder if the check cleared from the Orioles to that Umping crew?
I think the answer Girardi is going to give re: Cervelli is that he’s hitting 400+ over his last 5 or 6 games. Not saying he shouldn’t have pinch hit for him just saying I bet that will be his answer.
Need. Runs. Now.
Girardi definitely hasn’t been managing like he is trying to win the division. Posada, Nunez or Curtis were better options than Cervelli. They have a 3rd catcher on this team for a reason. Plain and simple you can’t give away 2 outs in the 7th inning.
Nice job Logan!
Great job by the bullpen.
Come on! Bloop and a blast and then some…
Six outs to get one run
C’mon
it has to be possible
Nice bullpen . . . would be terrific to give them the lead to protect one day
Yeah, that’s right, this is all on Girardi.
As if no manager in this league ever made a questionable move, or a move that was a gamble and didn’t pay off.
And, please, stop with the “get Torre back” nonsense.
What other answer could Girardi give?
Berkman may be one of the worst hitters in all of MLB against LHP.
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Surprisingly, Vernon Wells and A-Rod have been sub .200 against lefties also this year.
Good job again, by the bullpen!
Are the late afternoon shadows going to make it difficult for the hitters?
Walk
GIDP
K
The only thing I can think of is Girardi has been affected by the pressure of a tight division race and the stress is leading to mental lapses and poor decisions.
White Sox and Braves always had hopes for Logan as a specialist, but, I doubt that anybody expected this sort of pitching.
Still six outs left. Not insurmountable.
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Also, if one or two guys get on base in the 8th or 9th inning there is still time to use Posada as a pinch hitter for either Berkman, Thames or Cervelli.
alrighty so what shall we do this inning
Where is the HP umpire on that list of “players of the game” He gets my vote.
Girardi will pop a gasket after the game but, he’s going to get grilled about that inning.
Curtis Granderson hits lefties now better than Berkman.
You have Thames hit for Berkman to face the lefty.
You don’t throw away an out there.
You NEVER have Cervelli hit in that situation.
Also, the days off and half days have to end.
Not having Tex on first is dumb and because of it, Girardi couldn’t even correctly play the matchup game he loved to play so much.
If he isn’t going to play his “A” lineup the rest of the way, he isn’t going to win games.
This series is Exhibit A of that.
Another horrible day on the bench by Girardi.
They are piling up at the same pace as the losses these days.
We already know Girardi is thinking about who to rest 2 days from now
Wins, Yankees don’t need no wins, just limp into a Wild Card spot
Those Wild Cards have really worked out well for us in the past.
Wild Cards for the Yankees usually means a 1st round exit
5 outs left
Jeez even Brett Gardner up there trying to go deep
two pitches and out number one…………. hooray
come on guys…LET’S GO YANKEES!
damon, matsui, melky, or even hinske would have driven in some runs. thanks cashman
Jeter Home Run?
Anyone who calls a game (against Baltimore or anyone) in September when you have a one game lead in the division meaningless is, well, I’ll be polite. Not paying attention. This team, with the one-man rotation and the lineup that goes AWOL en masse every other week needs every single advantage — especially home field — in the playoffs if they even hope to advance out of the first round.
And Chambliss, yes, they will hit, but you can’t count on when. This team is the most inconsistent offensive Yankee team in years. Maybe decades. You cannot count on them hitting this year in any game, let alone against the superior starting pitching they will face in the playoffs.
Can jeter go yard any more?
Don’t hit the ball on the ground or bunt, Brett. We really don’t have a leadoff hitter.
They say a picture is worth a thousand words:
http://www.lostrepublic.us/Gra.....cePalm.jpg
Wow…shocking. “hit on the ground weakly to short.”
If so, not today.
That’s 4.
Maybe he should pinch hit for Jeter against RHP now too?
wow they must be trying to set a record for quickest inning ever….i mean there is an off day tomorrow and flying to Texas….so hey why bother to try
Jeter flat out sucks right now
OMG, Jeter is stinking…
“# YankFanCA September 8th, 2010 at 3:34 pm
Nice bullpen . . . would be terrific to give them the lead to protect one day”
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The bullpen that Girardi wouldn’t bring into the game the other day after we tied it, because he wanted that egghead Burnett to pitch, to stroke his ego
Well that worked out well
What a mess Joe has made of this series.
I love the Cap but this is getting ridiculous
Man, it feels like these guys just want to get out of town.
For god’s sake, just win it and then leave.
Let’s hope Uehara isn’t on his game today.
Here comes another curve.
Nobody should panic and here is why -
Vazquez, Burnett, and Mosely on the mound in Arlington. We’re in good hands.
Jim Johnson pitching well is just absolutely, horrifyingly sickening. This Jim Johnson is a putrid scumball with no talent.
Lifeless.
The hapless O’s have gotten into our heads.
Down looking.
jacksquat September 8th, 2010 at 3:36 pm
They say a picture is worth a thousand words:
http://www.lostrepublic.us/Gra…..cePalm.jpg
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lol priceless
Sorry…
Thanks for everything, Derek over the years.
Tough to see you pound everything into the ground this year – it really is.
You’re a shell of your former self.
I was almost right
Flyout
Groundout to short
K
Yanks look flat
Ridiculous. Just insane that the inning is already over.
Flat?! Man, I wish they were flat.
Shows you how pathetic this team is when the topic on this blog is about Pinch hitting.
This team is screwed if CC doesn’t win every start. It’s a one man rotation.
Even a pitcher can hit the ball harder than Jeter does. He is useless…
Just pathetic . . . haven’t even touched a lousy Baltimore bullpen over 3 days.
On the plus side, I’d rather they do this now than against Tampa or in the playoffs.
Get swept at home to the Orioles in September in a tight pennant race isn’t “meaningless”.
A few more “meaningless” losses and they can limp into the post-season as the WC team.
That last inning was boneheaded managing at it’s finest and it cost the Yankees their best chance to win the game.
He manages like this Chicago next year, he will go from hero to zero in record time.
“# ET September 8th, 2010 at 3:37 pm
Nobody should panic and here is why -
Vazquez, Burnett, and Mosely on the mound in Arlington. We’re in good hands.”
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I think I just threw up in my mouth a little,
Hang on folks this ride could get rather bumpy and ugly in the coming days.
All the while Joe Girardi seems to be losing his faculties on the bench.
have we tried “small ball” ?
Pat M, I also think too many posters weren’t paying close enough attention to the resurgence of the Orioles under Showalter. This is a different Orioles team.
That said, let’s get them in the 9th.
If the Yankees go on and lose the division/home field advantage… there will be a lot of talk of this series. I’m sick to my stomach, I can’t take it anymore. It’s funny there is NO ENERGY AT ALL EVEN THE CROWD ISN’T DOING A THING…
“On the plus side, I’d rather they do this now than against Tampa or in the playoffs.” Agreed. Get this slop out of the way with now.
Thank goodness the lead for the Wild Card is large. Just saying.
Bobby V. said on Sunday night that the Yankees were due for an extended losing streak but the Orioles. To quote Sterling ” You can’t predict baseball.”
“This team is screwed if CC doesn’t win every start. It’s a one man rotation.”
Can’t blame the pitching staff today.
The Yankees had their chance in the 7th and Girardi didn’t go for the kill. But still, they have had 7 other innings to do ANYTHING against a terrible Orioles pitching staff and have pretty much given away at bat after at bat.
Girardi should not just hold a team meeting if they lose this one, he should rip into his gutless players who took the Orioles for granted at home. He should start sitting players who are injured like Jeter and Swisher until they are healthy, and he should start TRYING to win these games since they mean a heck of a lot at this point in the season.
What’s unbelievable is that despite the 8 game win streak, they may end up giving away all of the ground they gained from it just because they did not show up against the last place Orioles.
The Yankees should be up 4 or 5 games on the Rays, if they only didn’t totally forget how to hit for 3-4 game stretches every other week.
Look at it this way. It will be satisfying to see the Yankees beat the crap out of Carl “the thief” Pavano in the postseason. Still scratching my head at the thought that he could pitch 200 innings this year.
If the Yankees loose this one Joe has to take a lot of the blame.
He screwed up that 7th inning.
Let’s hope ARod can start something in the 9th…
Another 0 for Jeter day.
He’s now 5 for 29 in september (.172).
This is embarrassing. They haven’t hit the ball hard at all. It’s 5-6 pitch innings and all easy outs. In a penant race it’s nice to give away 3 games.
like that curve caught ANY of the plate…..the Umps stink this series about as bad as the Yankees do !….but can anyone tell that a curve that curves INTO a glove from the outside of the plate BEHIND the plate can not CROSS the plate ?….Where do they get these umps from anyway…..FUDGE !
“The only thing I can think of is Girardi has been affected by the pressure of a tight division race and the stress is leading to mental lapses and poor decisions.”
Makes sense… he was god-awful in the playoffs last year, managing scared, looking nervous. Robertson gets 2 easy outs and he goes to Aceves to face a RIGHTY. He pinch-ran for half his team and we ended up with the likes of Guzman and Cervelli batting against the Angels in extra inning games twice. He pulled Andy with like 80 pitches when he was cruising and the bullpen almost blew it. And in the WS, he was about to pitch Coke in the bottom of the 9th in Philly if we didn’t score in the top half… that is akin to using Weaver in 2003.
But this slide is on the offense – their hot streaks and cold streaks are basically 50-50 now. And they come in bunches.
Why wasnt that a strike???????? A pitch too close to take!!!! Wow, now he calls a cheap strike 3 off the plate.
Almost tempted to root for Tampa Bay tonight to keep Boston off the Wild Card pace.
on a positive note….our bullpen has been looking dashingly solid for a while now….to bad we never give them leads
nice makeup call on that strike 3 though….pathetic !
So, it’s 6 runs in 26 innings against the mighty O’s. There’s something to make you vomit.
Nice play lance.
A Jeterian throw…
Great throw Jeter
The Umps helped quite abit yesterday. No doubt about that.
trisha – true pinstriped blue September 8th, 2010 at 3:40 pm
Pat M, I also think too many posters weren’t paying close enough attention to the resurgence of the Orioles under Showalter. This is a different Orioles team.
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oh, bullcrap. The lost 2 of 3 at home to the stinking red sox.
and Jeter with the error to boot…..SON OF A ……. !!!!!
Jeter just lost another $250,000 on his salary for next year
Remember the Orioles just did the same thing to the Rays. Whether they did it at home or on the road, they did it. They are playing good ball. The Yankees unfortunately are not.
Exactly, a meaningless makeup call when we’re down in the 9th inning. Leave it to umpires to try and make it look fair and to the idiot fans who think it is fair.
Each and every Yankees hitter should be made to walk to Texas, after this disgusting display of baseball
No excuse at this point of the season for this
In April, May you shake it off
In September it is the money part of the season and Yankees went bankrupt in this series
I am disgusted with watching Girardi in this series, he got schooled by Showalter
Jeter has now gone 23 games with zero or 1 hit. I am glad he is still batting 2nd.
Even if u bring Cap back u cannot play him at SS
Every throw by Jeter is an effort.
If he is hurt he should admit it.
He nursed that over.
I sincerely hope this ends up as the low point of the season. Can’t get much worse.
OK, the team is flat, we get it!
As hot as they were last week, they are as cold this week.
But, come on; “Jeter is useless”??
The guy that has given his heart and soul to this club year after year?
He is not having a great year, no question about it, but “useless” is delusional.
I’m getting sick of Tex too – the guy goes hot to cold faster than any player on the team. He looks great for a week, sucks for a week. Unless the guys around him are hitting, he can’t hit his way out of a paper bag.
Tex scoops that in his sleep.
“oh, bullcrap. The lost 2 of 3 at home to the stinking red sox.”
oh, bullcrap. They won 2 of 3 at home to the stinking Rays.
to bad el capitan is not up in the 9th, i am sure he would come thru after all he did about 5 years ago…
jeter is not only getting out but his ab’s stink..
can he hit the ball to center? he hits 40% of his balls to the SS or 3B.
dreadful performance by the yanks…
good news jorge will be rested on friday. that 1 AB to day that he did not have makes all the difference in the world..
yep postgame managers report will be interesting. think any of the brain dead reporters will ask any legit questions………..
Playing through an injury is admirable, but Jeter really needs some time off. If he were a pitcher, he would be on the DL. Instead, he keeps going out there everyday grinding it out.
They cheated us this game out of Gardner on 3rd base with 1 out.
And they gave the Wieters HR a 2 run homer with that cheap call at 1st base.
Rightfully, the score is and should be 2-1 Yankees and not vice versa.
Stop it Trisha, stop it.
The Orioles are a terrible team, and everyone with a clue knows that there is a huge difference between doing it at home and on the road.
Every team in MLB is better at home than on the road. The Orioles are 23-45 on the road, 23-45.
Just because it happened to other teams doesn’t mean it can be excused if it happens to the Yankees. The Angels are a joke this year, they are under .500. The Yankees are the “best team in baseball,” or maybe not for long if they can’t beat the Orioles even once at home to earn it.
Jeter looks like the career fairy left town for good.
“I sincerely hope this ends up as the low point of the season. Can’t get much worse.”
And therein would be your silver lining!
Whatever happens today, it isn’t fatal.
actually despite that error Jeter is solid at SS and has like the highest fielding percentage at SS in the AL….so….(yea he totally sucks at bat)
# trisha – true pinstriped blue September 8th, 2010 at 3:44 pm
“oh, bullcrap. The lost 2 of 3 at home to the stinking red sox.”
oh, bullcrap. They won 2 of 3 at home to the stinking Rays.
The Rays still scored a lot of runs. We ain’t pushing a damn thing across.
“# syd_cash September 8th, 2010 at 3:42 pm
on a positive note….our bullpen has been looking dashingly solid for a while now….to bad we never give them leads”
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And when Joe had the chance to go to them in a tied game the other day he instead left Burnett in to lose the game.
Savior Alex, please.
good inning, Joba – now can someone score a few freaking runs here
This series proves that Girardi doesn’t care about winning the division. Plain and simple. He is managing like a it’s a late September game that means nothing. The way he used AJ the other day and the 7th inning of this game proves that.
Walkoff time.
Matt – Dont even bother with Trisha. She is too far gone mentally to understand baseball – or anything for that matter.
the jeter apologists with his supposed phantom injury..
he is just getting old star worshippers it happens…
Buck Showalter didn’t make Brad Bergesen a quality major league pitcher. He’s average at best and he made the Yankees look wretched.
It’s inexcusable for a team like the Yankees to get swept at home, by a team like the Orioles.
Macfan September 8th, 2010 at 3:43 pm
Each and every Yankees hitter should be made to walk to Texas, after this disgusting display of baseball
No excuse at this point of the season for this
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Better yet they should be forced to sit in coach for takeoff and landing (ala minky kelly) on the flight to texas
Michael Kay: Can the Yankees make up a 1-run deficit?
Nope!
Way to pick up the captain Joba.
Now hit the ball Yankees!
Sorry, when you’re barely hitting .260 . . . with no power . . . and you constantly kill rallies, you don’t deserve praise. This team needs to do something in the 9th.
With the 3 pitchers we are throwing out in Arlington, and with the way this offense hits on the road (and they are ice cold as it is) it is not smart to assume that we’ve seen the worst.
If CC doesn’t win his game in Tampa, this could get real ugly. No one can have any expectations for this team to do anything in Arlington.
NICE job by Joba!
Arod will homer.
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Matt, stop being a stupid ass if it’s possible. Everyone knows that the Orioles are playing good ball now. Except you obviously.
I’m hoping for pie…….
Here’s how I want it done:
A-Rod walk, Cano Homerun.
Nice and simple…..easy…..and if it’s done….if we get pie. Players should not celebrate. They should shake hands, walk off the field and head to Texas realizing how lucky they got.
This has been awful and horrific
Lately, it’s been 1-2-3 9ths.
Have faith Alex is up. He’s hit the ball well today.
Maybe it’s the day games.
Like Dracula, sunlight hurts them.
If Jeter is hurting…he is now hurting the team.
Come on Yanks!!!
Win it…bloop and a blast!!!
Michael Kay’s perfect life partner would be Trisha. Both arrogant morons who know nothing about baseball; they both claim to be Yankees fans, but show no loyalty to the Yankees whatsoever!
“# Swishalicious33 September 8th, 2010 at 3:44 pm
I sincerely hope this ends up as the low point of the season. Can’t get much worse.”
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Oh yeah, with Burnett, Vazquez and Mosley in Texas and Texas starving for wins and back home
It will likely get a lot uglier than this.
Which is why games like this was important to leave some margin for error, instead they threw it away.
People still use fielding % to grade defense?
alright…9th inning comeback!!!!!!!!!
right…i hope…maybe…
lets hope for a boston victory !? oh its terrible to think that way
Hey maybe we can get an Orioles pitcher to throw more than 5-6 pitches in this inning. That would at least show a pulse, something they haven’t shown all series.
I’ll feel relieved if we come back and win, not thrilled. This has been a painful week and now I have to dread the rest of this difficult schedule. CLUTCH HIT ALEX!!!
The Orioles on the season score 3.8 runs per game.
This series they have scored 4 runs per game.
There is nothing different about this Orioles team except their pitchers are facing a Yankee offense asleep at the wheel.
no 1-2-3, good start!
Tex-
Yanks way better record in day games than night games this year.
There won’t be any pie today. This Japanese closer is lights out.
They had their chances against Jimmy Johnson and Bergson and they failed.
A-God
syd-cash…….dashingly solid…….Like that !!!!!
Oh you just took the gloves off CR9. Dumb on your part. I’ve held back, but you who are almost on the floor with stomach pain in fear of the Sux have the audacity to question anything anyone else says? You’re lucky I don’t start in on stuff I would love to having to do with you and your posting habits.
C’mon, please rally!
Trisha,
Stop it, stop it.
Who cares if the Orioles have been “hot” lately?
You are at HOME, you are the supposed “best team in baseball,” you should be able to beat a “hot” LAST PLACE TEAM.
The Pirates have had stretches where they have been ok this year, but they are still a terrible team. Stop being ridiculous.
“# CR9 September 8th, 2010 at 3:46 pm
Matt – Dont even bother with Trisha. She is too far gone mentally to understand baseball – or anything for that matter.”
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LOL
Line drives Robbie, line drives.
Please run. Please run.
Nunez has to steal before Cano has a chance to hit into a dp.
come on yankees. save me from hearing from annoying oriole fans tonight.
Why the PR for Alex? Stupid.
Anyone who says they’ve been losing since Alex came back is brutally wrong. He looks great! Glad A-Rod is in the lineup.
just because there is someone on 1B and you can win the game with a HR..,..doesn’t mean swing at the first pitch……..just saying
still want cano for MVP?
And both Michael Kay and Trisha are more concerned with their own egos than anything else – especially the Yankees.
Cano is just hacking away at anything right now
Texas is 2-8 in their last 10 games with Hamilton hurting, so there is no need to be fearful of that team.
Another hit for A-Rod who is hitting well. He can carry a team when he gets hot.
Time for Cano to end it.
Bridge is gonna be a mess this afternoon with all the jumpers out.
You people never cease to amaze me.
They won 8 in a row. Did you really think there wouldn’t be a losing streak to follow that up?
Do you follow baseball?
I guess the big question now is, how many regulars will Girardi “rest” in Texas and Tampa?
He seems unwilling to play the regular lineup more than one day in a row.
You have to hope he ends this nonsense and actually plays the regular, including Posada, every day on the roadtrip.
Unless of course, he enjoys losing.
If he does, he shouldn’t change a thing because it’s working.
Good job by Girardi running Cano into the ground. He can’t even buy a hit right now.
How don’t they steal here??
We need an afternoon pie!
LGY – FORGET ON THE SEASON. Are you guys incapable of looking at what’s right in front of you? Is it something in the way you’re wired??? The Orioles are playing good baseball NOW! NOW is what we’re talking about. Jesus some of you can be dense.
Man, wasn’t Cano at like .370 at one point in the season? He may end up right around .300
its funny and sad. alex comes back. the team is hot without him, and when he returns, cold as ice, but HE is getting hits. Its like they are now dependent on him to win the games.
Cano is another guy who needs a few days off. If Girardi is going to punt the division, Cano should be sitting.
GO YANKEES!!!
Not feeling it here. I think it’s over today.
“With the 3 pitchers we are throwing out in Arlington, and with the way this offense hits on the road (and they are ice cold as it is) it is not smart to assume that we’ve seen the worst.
If CC doesn’t win his game in Tampa, this could get real ugly. No one can have any expectations for this team to do anything in Arlington.”
That’s a good point. I don’t think we’ve seen the worst just yet. We’re throwing out 3 well-below average pitchers in a bandbox against a good team.
Good job by Girardi running Cano into the ground. He can’t even buy a hit right now.
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except the he hit this afternoon?
Think basehits not HRs…
Cano was actually holding up at .370 for a week or so, but he’s hit under .300 since then
“GO YANKEES!!!” That isnt going to make people think you are actually a Yankees fan. Because you’re not one.
LGY – FORGET ON THE SEASON.
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They are scoring the same amount of runs THIS SERIES as they have ALL SEASON.
SWISH!!!!!!!
Posada should be playing everyday. Cervelli defines awful
My gut was right!
Finally, I can smile.
SWISH!!!!!!!
they gutted one out, Robbie just missed and Swish nailed it…
Reverse psychology!!!!!!
PIE! A timely call on my part, eh?
# Yankee44 September 8th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
We need an afternoon pie!
Showalter watched that one very closely.
YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Take that you drunk BUCK *****************************************************
OMG….I almost had a heart attack watching that ball…..
This team was goofing on us all along…
WOW!!!
Thank god for Swish!
PAT YOU CALLED IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HA HA HA HA. Take that crybabies on this forum.
Pat, Pat M and trisha are the heroes of the game!
Pie!
Swisher with the walk off!!!!
I’m not gonna lie, I just love pie
THANK YOU,!! SWISH
YEAH!!! This scumpile team Orioles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Take that you criminals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
that bee-otch aj burnett better be no where near home plate right now!!!
THANK YOU.
Now all go and cry some more, you whiny idiots.
it didn’t even seem like a win…
That’s why you play your regulars whether they are hurt or not.
Hopefully Girardi has figured that out.
Great for us and the Yankees. But there shouldn’t be any pie today.
Go get em Vazquez, AJ and Moseley in Texas.
i knew it couldn’t be that hard to score two runs off the O’s bullpen
Now is the time to take some chances.
Pie for Swish!!
swish does seem like the only one immune to long slumps this year no?
that was easy
YankeesWFAN How ironic. Swisher hit it over Pie’s head and will now get pie for the walkoff.
Does AJ dare?
Yes, he’s found his role.
OMG I am going to pass out for realllll
Cano, Swish, or Berkman was bound to ramp up on a guy throwing sub-90 fastballs….
Kim Jones looks good with creme on her face.
Phew
actually, that’s the first walkoff this year not hit by Thames
“Pat, Pat M and trisha are the heroes of the game!” There Mrs. Michael Kay is, stroking her own ego!
But hey, the Yankees won and that’s all that matters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AJ WITH THE PIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And Kim’s got it on her!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WOOOOHOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SJ44,
I think Girardi was tricked by a false sense of security. Over the last 10 days the team hit with a lot of backups playing so Joe continues to play them. But even the most positive fan/coach/whatever would acknowledge that it was only a matter of time before the backups went back to playing like backups.
Oh and hey look the Yanks just won.
And just like that *poof* Matt is gone.
And Swisher saves Joke Girardi
I have tears in my eyes. I have been packing up my daughter’s stuff, but I had the game on in the background. I KNEW they were going to win this game. I am really happy about this win. It means a lot.
Nova – wow – great job by him. Great job by the bullpen.
It’s a big win.
Swish helped Girardi out. Even though Girardi didn’t care if they got swept or not.
I FREAKIN LOVE YOU SWISHER!
Good for swish. He needed that
“Now all go and cry some more, you whiny idiots.”
Thank you. As you know, they’re not capable of anything but fearing every pitch and every at bat.
-Matt-
Swish had the walkoff against the Rays after the death of Mr. Steinbrenner!
Holy Cow and Swisher wins the ballgame.
Swish comes through!
Nice!
Now I’ll be able to watch sports center tonight.
Amazed that they found a way to beat the juggernaut that is Baltimore.
Please tell me Burnett’s funky behind isn’t throwing any pie
He needs to sit down and learn to pitch.
Still no 4 game losing streak, thank god.
THANK GOD FOR SWISHER!
SWISH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Man that was a shot of oxygen!
H e hit that on one leg to the opposite field.
Swish bails out Joe G and most of the rest of the offense…
pat September 8th, 2010 at 3:52 pm
Think basehits not HRs
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Well, maybe just one for the Heck of it.
bkk September 8th, 2010 at 3:55 pm
Kim Jones looks good with creme on her face.
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nice….
Girardi should give Swisher half his game check for saving his butt
A win is a win.
In fact, I think I will stroke my ego even more. This was my first post today:
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trisha – true pinstriped blue September 8th, 2010 at 1:09 pm
Hey all.
Yankees WILL win this game.
It’s probably alright to start to root for the fenway franks since they’ve given up on their season.
Baltimore is finally showing the kind of team they really have. (Doreen, wish you were here last night when I was talking about Baltimore as a good team, fielding a good team, finally reaching its promise. ) Anyway, everyone outside of this forum seems to realize that they have a lot of good players who, under Buck, have turned their season around!
GO YANKEES!!!
This was more a relief than joy
Don’t get too carried away this was not a good game
I would rather we win any day of the week even if playing poorly but this team has deeper issues to figure out for a repeat to happen
Amazing to think Cashman got Swish for Wilson flippin’ Betemit.
Trish are you a closet RS fan?
Kim got Bukkakied!
haahahahahahahhahahahhahh
pinstripepoetry @YESNetwork What happened on Sept 8 2009? Swisher walk-off HR.
Can one really declare oneself a hero? that isnt very heroic. Though it is self centered.
Kay was disgusted with this win, no joy in his call.
LOL
YOU ARE ALL A BUNCH OF WHINY BITCHES
YOU ARENT ENTITLED TO ANYTHIN AND YET YOU THINK YOU ARE
AND YOU CANT EVEN WATCH AN ENTIRE GAME WITH AN OPEN MIND AND JUST ENJOY IT
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
WHAT A JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOKE
I was wrong…I was wrong…I was wrong…I was wrong…I was wrong…I was wrong…I was wrong…I was wrong…I was wrong…I was wrong…I was wrong…I was wrong…I was wrong…I was wrong…I was wrong…I was wrong…( and I am HAPPY ! )
I’ve got a good headline for Burnett, IF he wins his next game-” The Pieman Delivers.” I know I could do that job for a lot less than AJ makes!!
oh and theREALkevin, get BENT !
Continue strokin’ it, Trisha. If the Yankees win ballgames, then keep on strokin’ it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SWISH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He wouldnt let us lose to this criminal Orioles team with this filthball manager Buck.
bkk September 8th, 2010 at 3:55 pm
Kim Jones looks good with creme on her face.
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so does that mean that burnett missed his spot once again – god he sucks…
Patrick,
Agreed.
That said, he’s got to stop.
Arod was $&$$&@ he was not in the lineup the other night because he felt great and was swinging the bat great.
Today, not having Posada or Curtis hitting for Cervelli, and DH’ing Tex makes no sense.
This is September and they are in a fight.
Play the regulars and cut the crap.
At some point, guys have to play to stay in rhythm and you deal with the ups and downs.
There can’t be 2-3 regulars out of the lineup every game. Not at this point in the year.
@MacFan
true but isn’t it good to still manage to win a game that you played god awful in…that counts for something and possibly this will lead us back to our winning ways on the road to Texas
I’m not a hero.
I’m more of a Hoagie; perhaps a grinder…
“# Cashman needs to go September 8th, 2010 at 4:00 pm
bkk September 8th, 2010 at 3:55 pm
Kim Jones looks good with creme on her face.
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so does that mean that burnett missed his spot once again – god he sucks…”
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LOL
Oh and hey look the Yanks just won.
And just like that *poof* Matt is gone.
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Yeah, but he was commanding quite an audience before Swisher ruined his day.
The “Matt Fan Club” was gaining members by the inning.
Lorenz is funny. lol
girardi’s moves were still moronic.
huge hit obviosuly from swisher. they needed that one..
i like the saying players win games and managers can lose them.
4 walkoffs only this year.
BIG WIN…
By the way, the homeplate umpire today made 25-30 missed calls. The offense can’t do a whole lot when this guy is calling strikes 2 feet out of the zone.
mick, indeed I am. But I affectionately refer to them as the Sux. Please address them that way if you want to ask me about them.
I am a closet Sux fan. I live for them. I would die for them. Any astute poster here who has been here more than a few weeks apparently would pick up that I’m a closet Sux fan. Surprised you even had to ask.
Congrats to Swish. You take ‘em anyway you can get ‘em. Good way to hit the road.
Kind of a “what a relief” win rather than a “woo hoo!” win, but we have the pitching staff to thank for it. Good job across the board by the hurlers.
No Sweep
SJ-
This is something that has bothered me about Joe all year.
trisha -
I thought I did chime in a bit last night, but I guess I slipped through the cracks! (But to tell the truth it may have been the night before – it’s very nuts at home right now.)
you definitely like to tell people I -told-you-so.
While I’m loving the way we won it still feels like we lost that game….
“By the way, the homeplate umpire today made 25-30 missed calls. The offense can’t do a whole lot when this guy is calling strikes 2 feet out of the zone”
You mean NEITHER offense, I assume. He wasn’t good. But he wasn’t one sided about it.
theREALkevin – and that’s the reason I make it a habit to stay away from game threads for the most part. Whiny bitches make it impossible to enjoy any Yankee game because unless they get a hit every AB and unless they pitch a no hitter, the complaining begins. Always.
Swisher was 2-0 and it made a huge difference. When the pitchers get ahead in the count it seems like the Yanks just disappear.
You know, SJ, perhaps Girardi has bought into the idea that home field advantage is of little value.
Because it looks like he’s more interested in resting players for October, then winning games in September.
you definitely like to tell people I -told-you-so.
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She only gets so many chances. We don’t get any ‘I-told-you-no’s” when her prognosticating doesn’t work out.
Last year there’s no chance Swisher could have hit that home run.
Swisher still hits for a lot of power and gets on base but he’s no longer the “take and rake” kind of hitter he once was. And in turn he’s become a much more complete and valuable player. In the process he’s gone from being a good player with certain limitations to an all star and one of the games best RF.
If Swisher tries to yank that pitch out of the park, if he tries to pull it in order to hit it hard, if he tries to take advantage of the short RF fence, he grounds out to second.
Uehara was consciously pitching with yankee stadium’s short RF porch in mind. He kept going away to Swisher. He wasn’t going to let Swisher pull the ball to RF.
That pitch was up but it was on the outside corner. It was a mistake but it wasn’t a horrible pitch. It wasn’t the kind of mistake where the ball just sits belt high middle.
Swisher stayed back, he kept his hands back, and hit the ball where it was pitched. And by doing so he was able to take advantage of the mistake in elevation while not getting himself out by trying to pull a pitch which was outside, which is where Uehara wanted it.
Just a brilliant at bat and demonstration of Swisher’s new approach at the plate and why he’s been so tremendous this season.
Nice try, but I post all the time, and I’ve still been posting now.
Looks like you just lost the only card in your hand in your weak attempts to discredit my posts.
SJ44,
Yes I completely agree. And you’re right, A-rod seemed pretty annoyed about not playing the other day. I’m sure you heard it from his people or something like that but just listening to his interview it was very obvious.
Joe is obviously trying to rest his guys in preparation for the stretch run to (and through) the playoffs but he has to realize that THIS IS the stretch run. He has to go into postseason mode and manage his team to win every game at all costs.
Once again Nova pitches well and the bullpen does their job
Now we have the reality of Burnett, Vazquez, Mosley
Barf, Yuck
Frankly Mosely is the most reliable of that sorry lot, which says it all
At least tomorrow is an off day and hopefully this team wakes up, because they have huge series coming up in the coming days and weeks to come.
Looks like Matt The Mook had to take a quick break and slide over to his Stuart Little computer.
I’m one mightily relieved Yankee fan but it still doesn’t change the fact that we were horrid in this series and were fortunate not to be swept. Well done Ivan Nova for having the balls to keep us in with a glimmer of hope. Well done Mr Swisher for once again demonstrating that you truly belong in the Bronx.
GB
Think small and big things happen. Think big and you pop out to 2nd.
“Kind of a “what a relief” win rather than a “woo hoo!” win, but we have the pitching staff to thank for it. ”
So true
BryanHoch Posada wasn’t available – concussion symptoms after foul tip last night. Went to a neurologist today.
4 minutes ago via txt
I didn’t get to watch the game today. If someone could sum up how Nova looked I’d appreciate it. The boxscore looks good…
with this win, now my mood will be a lot better tonight. any of you like that ?
Nova is their 2nd or 3rd best starter.
And it looks like GreenBeret7 is still whining and moaning like he usually does. Troll.
Hey, GB, why dont you go listen to the corked bats of Bartlett and Zobrist that apparently, you’re the only person in the world that can hear, ya schnook!
and now for the REAL TEST….these next 6 games in Texas and Tampa before heading to Baltimore for 3 games are going to REALLY show what we can do….Look at the pitchers we are facing and none of them are slouches: Wilson (14-6), Hunter (12-3), Lee (10-8), Price (17-6), Garza (14-7) and Shields (13-12) !!! If we go 3-3 or better during that stretch, THAT will be something to bring into Baltimore for some payback for this series that they almost swept us away in. Coming home 6-3 after these 9 games would be a HUGE lift heading into the final games of the season. I would love to see the Yankees respond the way we all know that they can !
“Last year there’s no chance Swisher could have hit that home run. ”
What are you talking about? Swisher hit HRs last year at a higher rate than this year. He was sitting 2-0 and got the pitch he was looking for.
“# Patrick September 8th, 2010 at 4:05 pm
SJ44,
Yes I completely agree. And you’re right, A-rod seemed pretty annoyed about not playing the other day. I’m sure you heard it from his people or something like that but just listening to his interview it was very obvious.
Joe is obviously trying to rest his guys in preparation for the stretch run to (and through) the playoffs but he has to realize that THIS IS the stretch run. He has to go into postseason mode and manage his team to win every game at all costs.”
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That’s because Joe has become obsessed with resting guys, you take care of business then rest guys is the old adage
Joe’s manic need to micromanage the lineup every day is becoming too much.
Its like the lineup is a shiny new toy for him to play with
BryanHoch Posada wasn?t available ? concussion symptoms after foul tip last night. Went to a neurologist today.
4 minutes ago via txt
That explains it.
“BryanHoch Posada wasn’t available – concussion symptoms after foul tip last night. Went to a neurologist today.”
Now don’t you Girardi haters feel stupid for slamming him for not playing Jorge. Believe it or not, the manager knows more about his players than we do.
Saying that you “told us so” is stupid, because you just got lucky. There was a greater chance of them losing the game than winning it given the position they were in, but since this is baseball they were only one good swing away from erasing it and finally got it.
The difference in this series was really that first game. If the Yankees pull out that first game that they lost by one run and left a ton of guys on base, then they take 2/3 instead of lose 2/3, which looks a lot better than what transpired.
This team has let a lot of games slip through the cracks like those, but they are so talented that they win other games to make up for it. You just have to hope that in the end those games though aren’t the difference between home field advantage and the wild card.
So JoPo at the doctor with concussion-like symptoms — some of you should be embarrassed.
Shouldn’t be celebrating…should be relieved….let’s go to Texas and thrash Baltimore next week at their house
You mean NEITHER offense, I assume. He wasn’t good. But he wasn’t one sided about it.
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I don’t think I need a grammar lesson, thanks. I didn’t say that he was biased towards one side of the other but he was an extreme pitcher’s umpire. My point is, there’s a reason why this was a low scoring ballgame.
Yankees have yet to get swept in a series at New Yankee Stadium (in series of 3 games or more)
The last time they got swept at home is May 2008 against Detroit.
mick – actually pat called the walk off and Pat M said we would not be swept. It wasn’t an “I told you so” as much as excitement at calling it right. I seldom come on a game thread and say that we will unequivocally win the game. Today I did and said it was a gut feeling I had. So it made me very happy that my gut feeling was right on. Okay? I’ve said the Yankees will take it all but you don’t hear me saying they will win every game of the season. In fact you hear me say BFD to Yankee losses.
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Doreen –
It was a few days ago that you chimed in. Believe me I wished you were there last night!
Posada wasn’t available – concussion symptoms after foul tip last night. Went to a neurologist today.
I won’t pile on Joe Girardi – not my style. But I will say, I agree that at this point, it is time for the regulars to play together as much as possible and establish their rhythm.
There are more off days to work with now.
No, we don’t feel stupid for slamming Girardi because he still made the wrong move with Cervelli at the plate.
He had Curtis on the bench who could have hit, and Moeller, a 3rd catcher, is on the roster.
Cervelli was still the worst option, and that could have been their only chance to tie up and possibly win this game and he left his worst option in to make the out.
WYH, I think he is talking about it being opposite field. Though Swisher did hit 4 opposite field homers last year. 3 left handed.
Swish bailed out Joe G today!
Joe stunk as bad as Berkman hitting LH pitching.
Maybe Joe needs a day off.
Now go get hot on the road guys!
6 or 7 of the next 9 on the road could finish the deal.
I didn’t like Cervelli hitting in that spot but I knew Girardi had to have a reason not putting Jorge in. I don’t agree with all of Girardi’s moves but he almost always has some kind of justification for what he does.
That is a perfect reason why Cervelli was not pinch hit for. Perfect. Cant argue that one.
GB7-
Who do you think Matt would like if you saw him?
1) Eddie from the Munsters
2) Pugsley from the Addams Family
No cheating now, and you can only choose one.
pat September 8th, 2010 at 4:06 pm
GB
Think small and big things happen. Think big and you pop out to 2nd.
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You’d think that the Yanks would rack up 20 hits a game with so many small thinkers on here. One day, these people will stop making these idiotic predictions and just enjoy the games.
For me, watching the Yankees play is like watching a beautiful stripper. You don’t ask why, you just enjoy what’s coming off.
OK, even if PO is unavailable, Matt is right, you have better batters on the bench, Moeller to catch and if you DO send him up to hit, he does NOT get the green light on the 1st pitch….Just because PO has a headache, doesn’t mean Joe is a genius, ALL !
Pepitone September 8th, 2010 at 4:11 pm
GB7-
Who do you think Matt would like if you saw him?
1) Eddie from the Munsters
2) Pugsley from the Addams Family
No cheating now, and you can only choose one.
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He may look like Pugsley, but, he thinks like Jethro Bodine.
# Pepitone September 8th, 2010 at 4:11 pm
GB7-
Who do you think Matt would like if you saw him?
1) Eddie from the Munsters
2) Pugsley from the Addams Family
No cheating now, and you can only choose one.
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I vote for “Thing”
Posada not being available changes nothing.
Colin Curtis or even Nunez are better options in that situation.
Posada may not have been available but, Colin Curtis was and you have the Moeller as the third catcher ready to go into the game.
Cervelli never should have hit in that situation.
Wave,
Last year, Nick doesn’t hit that ball the opposite way for a HR.
He’s hit with more power going the other way, especially LH all season.
He wasn’t doing that at all last year.
Did know Posada was hurt, let’s hope he’s OK.
Joe still screwed up by not hitting for Berkman.
# Don Vito A. Bellamo September 8th, 2010 at 4:13 pm
OK, even if PO is unavailable, Matt is right, you have better batters on the bench, Moeller to catch and if you DO send him up to hit, he does NOT get the green light on the 1st pitch….Just because PO has a headache, doesn’t mean Joe is a genius, ALL !
Well If you take out Cervelli then Moeller gets hurt you’re in trouble.
“You’d think that the Yanks would rack up 20 hits a game with so many small thinkers on here. One day, these people will stop making these idiotic predictions and just enjoy the games.
For me, watching the Yankees play is like watching a beautiful stripper. You don’t ask why, you just enjoy what’s coming off.”
But GB, that would take maturity. I wouldn’t hold my breath.
pat, again what a great call. There’s something really nice about being able to trust your gut. Im serious about that.
CR9 September 8th, 2010 at 4:07 pm
And it looks like GreenBeret7 is still whining and moaning like he usually does. Troll.
Hey, GB, why dont you go listen to the corked bats of Bartlett and Zobrist that apparently, you’re the only person in the world that can hear, ya schnook!
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This coming from a guy who believes that MLB umpires are on the Red Sox payroll.
“What are you talking about? Swisher hit HRs last year at a higher rate than this year. He was sitting 2-0 and got the pitch he was looking for.”
He did hit home runs. But very few to the opposite field. Swisher’s power was largely pull power.
Go back and look at where that pitch was located. It was up. But it was right on the outside corner. It was not that a bad pitch.
If Swisher had tried to pull that pitch he grounds out. No way a pitch on the outside part of the plate could be pulled for a home run. It’s possible he could have muscled up on the ball and pulled a single through the right side. But chances are it would have been a weak out to second.
Last year Swisher would have either taken that pitch or tried to dead pull it over the RF wall. We saw that countless times where he’d helicopter himself into the ground on big swings he’d take.
He’s a different hitter this year. To watch him go with the pitch and leverage his strength to hit an opposite field bomb is great. He wouldn’t have done that last season.
Swisher is a different hitter. I know you feel that saying that is some kind of slight on his past performance. It’s not.
He’s improved. He’s gone from a good player to an all star. Good for him.
But he’s qualitatively a different hitter even though some of his quantitative indices of performance like total home runs are similar.
He’s much more well rounded and complete. And we saw the benefits of that today in the 9th inning.
“Cervelli was still the worst option, and that could have been their only chance to tie up and possibly win this game and he left his worst option in to make the out.”
Cervelli has been with the team the entire season and during that time, he’s gotten some clutch hits here and there. Colin Curtis is a minor league call-up with less experience. Continue arguing that Cervelli was the wrong call. I bet if you asked all 30 managers what they would have done in that same situation and ALL of them would have went with the guy they know the best, which in this case is ‘ol dreamy eyes.
Great, old man Posada gets hurt every week.
If you don’t like the way Swisher plays ball you must be dead.
Noticed that Nova has pitched 145 at SWB, plus his innings in the bigs. It would be a shame if he had to be shut down, because at the moment he’s been more effective than all our starters cept CC.
“This coming from a guy who believes that MLB umpires are on the Red Sox payroll.”
The umpires dont even take the Red Sox money. They do it for free to help the team!!!
Carl September 8th, 2010 at 4:16 pm
# Don Vito A. Bellamo September 8th, 2010 at 4:13 pm
OK, even if PO is unavailable, Matt is right, you have better batters on the bench, Moeller to catch and if you DO send him up to hit, he does NOT get the green light on the 1st pitch….Just because PO has a headache, doesn’t mean Joe is a genius, ALL !
Well If you take out Cervelli then Moeller gets hurt you’re in trouble.
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Well if you are thinking that way then you should never DH posada when cervelli is catching – if the fear is that you won’t have anyone to catch in case of injury.
Joe Girardi just said it was safe to say that if Posada were available he would have pinch hit in that situation.
If Posada has a concussion he could be done for the season and the play offs.
He may look like Pugsley, but, he thinks like Jethro Bodine.
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or, Gunther Toody.
Jorge in a Gazoo helmet! I like it!
Madden “Is it safe to say, Jorge would have inch hit”
Girardi “Uh, yeah”
Tex September 8th, 2010 at 4:15 pm
# Pepitone September 8th, 2010 at 4:11 pm
GB7-
Who do you think Matt would like if you saw him?
1) Eddie from the Munsters
2) Pugsley from the Addams Family
No cheating now, and you can only choose one.
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***I vote for “Thing”***
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Maybe “Thing”, if he’s alone in his room.
Well, the mystery of Jorge Posada and why didn’t pinch hit in the 7th is now solved. I hope he is OK.
“Cervelli never should have hit in that situation.”
You guys are only saying that because Cervelli has been stinking up the joint lately. If this were May or June when Cervy was hitting over .300, you’d be singing a different tune.
This could open the door for Montero
C’mon Boston !
Adios til the Rays game! I need to take my meds again. Ive had fury building for 3 hours watching this criminal Orioles team!
SJ44-
I think you are overdoing the narrative. The fact is, Nick is hitting for HRs at a slightly lower rate this year, and SLG at a slightly higher rate. So maybe he pulls the ball last year, maybe he hits an opposite field HR last year anyway as he did do from time to time. That was not an unhittable pitch he hit, and Nick was sitting ahead in the count.
I dont meant to rain on CB and SJ44′s parade, but Swisher was demonstratively better last season at going opposite field.
This year he is hitting only .186 going opposite field as a lefty with 4 doubles and 1 HR.
Last year he hit .362 with 10 doubles and 3 HRs.
And his slugging RHB opposite field is the same despite a batting average nearly 200+ points higher.
Swisher has improved his ability to hit for average while decreasing his patience and raw power. The trade off is that you get more RBIs and advances.
Hmmm…tose who want to see Montero this season might get their wish. This would be a helluva way to get to see the kid. Still I hope that Jorge is OK and that the Yanks don’t have to make a roster move.
Wow. Joe Girardi is saying that he is contemplating the possibility of not having Posada for a while. That was in response to a question about Girardi contemplating not having Posada for the postseason. (I think I got that right)
Letting Cervelli bat still made no sense. Nunez or Curtis were still available and they are better options than Cervelli.
Wow. Joe Girardi is saying that he is contemplating the possibility of not having Posada for a while. That was in response to a question about Girardi contemplating not having Posada for the postseason. (I think I got that right)
CB-
Would be interested on your take on what adjustments Jeter needs to make at the plate.
Ah yes, Damn Posada for getting hit in the head with a foul ball! What a fool, how could he possibly allow this to happen!! I will never forgive you Jorge (pronouncing it “george” to show the maximum amount of disrespect)!!
These splits are readily available on baseball-reference, you could check them before writing a bunch about it, likewise for anyone jumping to agree with him because he is CB.
tose
should be:
those
guys, u sure u don’t want nova as a 4th starter in the ps? He’s been very good and can pitch 5-6 maybe 7 if necessary. I’d rather have him + bullpen than AJ or Javy pitchin
Yankees need a catcher next year who can start the 90 to 100 games Jorge will miss.
THEEEE YANKEEES WIN GIRARDI IS A GENIUS!!!
Just put the oversized helmet on Posada and he’s good to go.
Joe Girardi “micromanaged” the Yankees right to their 27th championship last year.
If that’s micromanaging, I’ll take that over macromanaging any day.
Laura – I Bleed Blue September 8th, 2010 at 4:17 pm
“Cervelli was still the worst option, and that could have been their only chance to tie up and possibly win this game and he left his worst option in to make the out.”
Cervelli has been with the team the entire season and during that time, he’s gotten some clutch hits here and there. Colin Curtis is a minor league call-up with less experience. Continue arguing that Cervelli was the wrong call. I bet if you asked all 30 managers what they would have done in that same situation and ALL of them would have went with the guy they know the best, which in this case is ‘ol dreamy eyes.
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Cervelli was called up from AA and he wasn’t even a good hitter in the minors. He hasn’t hit since May. Curtis and Nunez are better hitters.
I bet Joe went with him because he’s hit .286 for September (7 days). Joe loves small sample sizes.
“Jorge in a Gazoo helmet! I like it!”
It’s sheer idiotic nonsense for catchers to not be wearing those reinforced, better designed helmets when they are behind the plate.
Cervelli himself wears a regular catcher’s helmet, IIRC.
Just no reason for it. Those helmets aren’t designed with to withstand expected impact. It’s remarkable.
Laura actually Cervelli had been hitting over .400 over the last six games or so. I figured that’s why Girardi stayed with him. He had been heating up.
Has there been another season when Jorge was this banged up or injured this much?
Joe Girardi is saying that he is contemplating the possibility of not having Posada for a while
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joe also said that he didn’t forsee putting Arod on the DL, that he thought pettite would return before 6 weeks and that granderson is his CF and will not pinch hit for him in late innings vs left handers…..
# Cashman needs to go September 8th, 2010 at 4:18 pm
Carl September 8th, 2010 at 4:16 pm
# Don Vito A. Bellamo September 8th, 2010 at 4:13 pm
OK, even if PO is unavailable, Matt is right, you have better batters on the bench, Moeller to catch and if you DO send him up to hit, he does NOT get the green light on the 1st pitch….Just because PO has a headache, doesn’t mean Joe is a genius, ALL !
Well If you take out Cervelli then Moeller gets hurt you’re in trouble.
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Well if you are thinking that way then you should never DH posada when cervelli is catching – if the fear is that you won’t have anyone to catch in case of injury.
But you still have a back up in case Cervelli gets hurt. Who’s gonna back up Moeller if he gets hurt?
“Joe Girardi “micromanaged” the Yankees right to their 27th championship last year.
If that’s micromanaging, I’ll take that over macromanaging any day.”
Me too.
Yankees have yet to get swept in a series at New Yankee Stadium (in series of 3 games or more)
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I was actually writing this as Sterling went onto his HR call. They did get swept by TB in a 2 game series in May.
And Swish’s HR was awesome but it doesn’t necessarily hide the fact that they looked lifeless at the plate.
2.33 runs a game against the Orioles is pretty sorry.
Arod looked good and if he went to Girardi on 3 separate occasions to get in the game then Joe should oblige him. Tex DHing today was another head scratcher.
I like the fact that Joe is really into resting his players but the schedule and travel is relatively light now so I think he should get his tentative postseason lineup together and just let em go.
Would be interested on your take on what adjustments Jeter needs to make at the plate.
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It’s pretty simple – stop swinging at garbage
“This year he is hitting only .186 going opposite field as a lefty with 4 doubles and 1 HR.
Last year he hit .362 with 10 doubles and 3 HRs. ”
I know what his splits are. The sample sizes are too small to draw meaningful inference from.
This is a common problem when trying to do sub-group analysis. That’s a very well known topic in statistics.
The difference in Swisher is more qualitative than purely quantitative.
He’s a more balanced hitter this season.
Would you throw another pitch if you knew he was going to swing? Come on Kim are you serious?
But you still have a back up in case Cervelli gets hurt. Who’s gonna back up Moeller if he gets hurt?
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You can’t manage that way. You can’t be in fear that your backup catcher might get hurt in the two remaining innings of the game. You have to take the opportunity to score.
Laura-
In 2008 Posada only played in 51 games compared to 102 so far this season.
Qualitatively, swisher was much more impressive going opposite field last year. Come on, now, you got caught with your hand in the cookie jar. You don’t have to be perfect.
Swisher had some big flies opposite field on pitches away last year. It was no different than the one he hit today. 2010 he is going opposite field at a slightly higher rate, but doing so less effectively.
What is obvious about his swing is that he is able to produce higher batting averages, but he is swinging more and his ISO has decreased. I wouldn’t go saying things like ‘there is no way he could have hit that HR last year’ when he clearly did do that.
Has there been another season when Jorge was this banged up or injured this much?
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2008. He played a total of 51 games.
He only played 111 last year.
# jacksquat September 8th, 2010 at 4:27 pm
But you still have a back up in case Cervelli gets hurt. Who’s gonna back up Moeller if he gets hurt?
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You can’t manage that way. You can’t be in fear that your backup catcher might get hurt in the two remaining innings of the game. You have to take the opportunity to score.
I don’t know what Joe Gs thinking was. I’m just speculating.
Well, Girardi has a real situation with Posada out for an undetermined time. If he’s out, NYYs have 3 catchers that could be used…Montero, Romine or Rene Rivera….unless they want to take a chance on Robby Hammock or just go with 2 catchers. I’m more inclined to go with Rivera.
Carl September 8th, 2010 at 4:24 pm
# Cashman needs to go September 8th, 2010 at 4:18 pm
Carl September 8th, 2010 at 4:16 pm
# Don Vito A. Bellamo September 8th, 2010 at 4:13 pm
OK, even if PO is unavailable, Matt is right, you have better batters on the bench, Moeller to catch and if you DO send him up to hit, he does NOT get the green light on the 1st pitch….Just because PO has a headache, doesn’t mean Joe is a genius, ALL !
Well If you take out Cervelli then Moeller gets hurt you’re in trouble.
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Well if you are thinking that way then you should never DH posada when cervelli is catching – if the fear is that you won’t have anyone to catch in case of injury.
But you still have a back up in case Cervelli gets hurt. Who’s gonna back up Moeller if he gets hurt?
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Carl – i meant before the sept 1st call ups – the yankees have dh’d posada quite a few times when cervelli has caught (prior to rosters expanding)
i’m not pretending to be a baseball know it all – like some posters on here – but if you play thinking someone is going to get hurt and sit guys out for those reasons – then you are really compromising the lineup…..which is why next year the yankees really need a 3rd catcher because posada will be getting hurt or sitting alot more next year at age 40 or whatever he is (48, 63?)
they can’t rush jorge back if its a concussion. not good. just ask chris drury. he never was the same.
# Cashman needs to go September 8th, 2010 at 4:31 pm
Carl September 8th, 2010 at 4:24 pm
# Cashman needs to go September 8th, 2010 at 4:18 pm
Carl September 8th, 2010 at 4:16 pm
# Don Vito A. Bellamo September 8th, 2010 at 4:13 pm
OK, even if PO is unavailable, Matt is right, you have better batters on the bench, Moeller to catch and if you DO send him up to hit, he does NOT get the green light on the 1st pitch….Just because PO has a headache, doesn’t mean Joe is a genius, ALL !
Well If you take out Cervelli then Moeller gets hurt you’re in trouble.
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Well if you are thinking that way then you should never DH posada when cervelli is catching – if the fear is that you won’t have anyone to catch in case of injury.
But you still have a back up in case Cervelli gets hurt. Who’s gonna back up Moeller if he gets hurt?
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Carl – i meant before the sept 1st call ups – the yankees have dh’d posada quite a few times when cervelli has caught (prior to rosters expanding)
i’m not pretending to be a baseball know it all – like some posters on here – but if you play thinking someone is going to get hurt and sit guys out for those reasons – then you are really compromising the lineup…..which is why next year the yankees really need a 3rd catcher because posada will be getting hurt or sitting alot more next year at age 40 or whatever he is (48, 63?)
I understand.
Thank the lord Jesus is coming.
GB7-
Just use Pena or Girardi as your backup catcher!!
Still could fish for someone on waivers!
“This is a common problem when trying to do sub-group analysis. That’s a very well known topic in statistics.
The difference in Swisher is more qualitative than purely quantitative.”
In other words, the numbers don’t back you up and you just have an opinion like anyone else.
The numbers show Swisher went to the opposite field more successfully last year. And, Swisher hit HRs more frequently last year. The fact is, Swisher hit just fine last year, and he is hitting just fine this year. He has mainly traded some walks for some singles.
GreenBeret7 September 8th, 2010 at 4:31 pm
Well, Girardi has a real situation with Posada out for an undetermined time. If he’s out, NYYs have 3 catchers that could be used…Montero, Romine or Rene Rivera….unless they want to take a chance on Robby Hammock or just go with 2 catchers. I’m more inclined to go with Rivera.
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Montero. Any defensive weakness he has vs the other options he could very easily make up for (and more) with his bat. And it’s not like Cervelli has been a master of blocking pitches lately.
“These splits are readily available on baseball-reference, you could check them before writing a bunch about it, likewise for anyone jumping to agree with him because he is CB.”
And before you make petty, snarky comments based on aggregate rate statistics, you might want to actually look at the data more carefully and actually look at how large the samples you’re talking about are.
In 2009 Swisher as a left handed batter 47 at bats where he went the other way.
This season he only has 43 at bats where he went the other way as a LH hitter.
The notion that you can draw some grand conclusion from the quantitative data from 47 vs. 43 at bats is ridiculous. You yourself would mock such notions if another poster tried to make that much out of such small samples.
Trying to derive inference from sub-group analysis of switch hitters is very difficult because you start running into the problem of scant data in each cell.
The qualitative evidence in this case is much more helpful than the quantitative.
Justin Morneau is younger than Posada and has missed most of the season with concussion-like symtoms.
A head injury has nothing to do with age.
This was a big win. You can’t get swept by the Os at home in September. As it now stands it was a 7-3 homestand and that plane ride to Texas will be much nicer.
I was thinking to myself before the game how I hadn’t seen a swisher homer in a while and I was sitting in class and checked my phone and saw one on and swisher at bat, all I could think was Walk Off! And not a minute later did my phone buzz and the score 3-2 show up in my text box. Ill have to go watch the 9th to see it for myself cause I’m bummed I missed it. Glad they were able to avoid the sweep and great job by Nova for keeping them in the game.
SJ44-
BTW, did you ever look into the C-Flap helmet attachment to protect against mandibular injuries, for Tony?
“In 2008 Posada only played in 51 games compared to 102 so far this season.”
That was the shoulder season, right? That was one injury. This year, it seems like he’s had several different injuries. It seems like each week, there is something else wrong with him. Just not his year I guess.
BLah blah blah science terms. Your opinion.
“In other words, the numbers don’t back you up and you just have an opinion like anyone else.”
No. The numbers in each cell are too small to derive valid inference regarding generalizable skill.
These are common issues one deals with in statistics. They happen all of the time. Sub-group often requires throwing out large stores of data as you continue to slice up cells. That’s particularly true in this situation as Swisher is a switch hitter.
I don’t know if Swisher couldve hit that pitch out last year or not but I sure am glad he could this year
No way would I like to see Montero/Romine thrown into a tight pennant race before they are ready for it.
I’m not the one drawing any conclusions from a small sample, you are. You drew the conclusion of ‘Swisher would never hit like that!’ from his 1 AB in the 9th *today*. You wrote like, 6 paragraphs about it!
I could write 6 paragraphs about how Swisher’s opposite field bomb vs the White Sox in 09 was majestic and awesome and he wouldn’t be able to do that in 2010.
Try to separate your own opinions from the knowledge you are attempting to drop on everyones head. Swish hit a cool opposite field HR, it doesn’t have to be grandoise, especially compared to last year where he hit more.
Montero pack your bags for Texas. There is absolutely no way that he is worse than Cervelli behind the plate.
Yankee Trader September 8th, 2010 at 4:34 pm
GB7-
Just use Pena or Girardi as your backup catcher!!
Still could fish for someone on waivers!
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I wonder what catchers are out there that cleared waivers? I can’t guess that Molina or Buck cleared.
“BLah blah blah science terms. Your opinion.”
You have no idea what you’re talking about.
And for you to again resort to silly snark – especially when it comes to science you don’t know and aren’t familiar with – is really rich. But I guess everyone can play the luddite card if they want to.
That would invalidate most of the arguments you’ve ever gotten into with Randy, for instance.
He could dismiss all of your points in the same way, “blah blah science term. Your opinion.”
These are common issues in statistical analysis. Just because you don’t know about them doesn’t make them any less of an issue.
There is no “qualitative evidence”. There is certainly no “qualitative evidence” applicable to this pitch that Swisher hit today. The pitch was low and away, but not that far away, and Swisher hit it to the opposite field, but not that far to the opposite field. It wasn’t an inside out swing, and Swisher certainly didn’t roll over every outside pitch he saw last year.
Swisher was ahead in the count and hit it a ton. There is no good reason to say he couldn’t have done the same thing last year.
The Jays aren’t helping the Yanks out. Only a team in the NL would.
I’m sure there a lot of issues with using 40 AB sample size to determine anything. You could just say that and move on. Instead you post 500 words on aggregate sub group cell slices. You’re wrapping up what is at worst, a wrong statement, and at best, your opinion, in science trying to escape from your tediously long point about Nick Swisher’s swing in 2010.
Trader,
He doesn’t like it. He doesn’t feel comfortable with wearing it.
He used to wear the hockey-style mask and moved away from it.
Nike is working with us to design a mask that has a little extra padding in the jaw area.
We are supposed to have a prototype to test next week.
If he likes it, he will wear that during the instructional league and Arizona Fall League seasons.
“The pitch was low and away, but not that far away, and Swisher hit it to the opposite field, but not that far to the opposite field.”
Check on gameday – that pitch was on the very outside part of the plate and up.
“There is no good reason to say he couldn’t have done the same thing last year.”
You’re right. It would have been more accurate to say that he would have been less likely to hit that pitch out last year given his approach at the plate.
“There is no “qualitative evidence”. There is certainly no “qualitative evidence” applicable to this pitch that Swisher hit today. ”
This is probably where we disagree. How the game is played is qualitative evidence and it matters.
Well, Rene Rivera is only 27, had 150 ab’s (.585 OPS) and caught only 380 innings (~42 full games worth) in the majors. I wouldn’t consider that much more of an advantage in a pennant race.
Montero is not a baby, bring him up (if Posada is going to be out for a while).
Swish hit a similiar fastball in the same quadrant in 09.
Duh!
SPTimesRays #Rays Shields on watching in clubhouse as Yanks win on walkoff : “We weren’t too happy about it.”
It will be interesting to see what the lineups are for tonight’s playoff games at Scranton and Trenton. It will be especially to see which catcher is held back from starting until the Yankees know more about Posada’s situation.
Per Espn: Swisher hit a walkoff 1 year ago today.
SJ-
I was referring to the C-Flap for the batting helmet. Are you talking about the catcher’s mask, or are they working on something for the batting helmet also?
“How the game is played is qualitative evidence and it matters.”
But your interpretation of it is not evidence. That’s the problem with “qualitative evidence” and always has been. It makes it way too easy to take a preconception – that Swisher is a better hitter because Kevin Long adjusted his swing in the off-season – and shoehorn it into the set of facts you are observing. It’s just a fancy term for saying “this is what I think”. And that’s fine as far as it goes, but it is subject to way too much subjective bias for my taste. Especially when the result you claim contradicts the actual facts, be they collected on ever so small a sample.
“Check on gameday – that pitch was on the very outside part of the plate and up. ”
I watched it on live on replay before I posted the comment. I’m right.
Wow who cares if Swisher would have hit that ball in 2009 or not!? He is having a much better year this year, that’s all that needs to be said.
On a completely separate note, I think it’s time to call up Montero. I’m sure a lot of people here will disagree but there are a couple reasons I feel this way. First, the idea that Cervelli is worthy of catching 2 out of every 5 games is ludicrous. He is not a good hitter at all, and his fielding does not make up for it, not even close. Second, now that Posada might miss significant time Cervelli would basically be catching 4 out of every 5 games. That’s even more insane.
It’s time to call Montero up and put him behind the plate while Posada recovers from his concussion. Jesus might struggle at times but this team needs more offense at the catcher position and Cervelli is not going to provide it.
JMO but if Marte is out for the year, I’d want another lefthander in the bullpen rather than put the entire burden on Boone Logan. A 40-man roster move would have to be made to add Royce Ring.
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....pid=429721
Also, I’d strongly consider signing FA John Buck to a 2-year deal with an option for another while packaging Cervelli in a deal.
A 2011 combination of Jorge, Buck, and Montero would fit. Montero could be used as a DH for a portion of games.
I was talking about the catchers mask.
He isn’t doing anything with the batting helmet other than using his league required Gazoo helmet! lol
Thankfully, he’s been facing live pitching in simulated games and live BP for two weeks and hasn’t had any fear concerns at the plate.
That’s a big first step, given his summer.
“Wow who cares if Swisher would have hit that ball in 2009 or not!? He is having a much better year this year, that’s all that needs to be said. ”
Uh, no he’s not. Marginally better, maybe.
SJ44-
I’m very glad to hear that.
Biggest difference is that he is hitting like .90 points better with RISP. If the adjustment gives Swish a better chance with runners on, I’m all for it.
WHOA including today, since August 1st the cumulative ERA of Rivera, Chamberlain, Robertson, Wood and Logan is 1.15!!!!! Where did this come from? I mean I knew they were good but not Rivera-like-automatic good.
jerkface-
RISP has got all kinds of sub-group slicing problems…
“But your interpretation of it is not evidence. That’s the problem with “qualitative evidence” and always has been.”
And this is a common issue and limitation with qualitative evidence. Nothing is perfect and that’s why it’s important modes of looking at the game.
Is there a subjective component to it. Yes.
But observing a hitter not tryng to pull an outside pitch, keeping his front side closed and his hands back and taking the ball the other way is not pure “opinion” either.
Swisher had a great approach at the plate in that at bat. And that’s something he’s done more of this year.
whoohoo Swisher
Go NYY~!