Game 142: Yankees at Rangers
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Gameday Thread on Sep 11, 2010 
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YANKEES (87-54)
Brett Gardner LF
Nick Swisher RF
Mark Teixeira 1B
Alex Rodriguez 3B
Robinson Cano 2B
Lance Berkman DH
Curtis Granderson CF
Ramiro Pena SS
Francisco Cervelli C
RHP A.J. Burnett (10-13, 5.15)
Burnett vs. Rangers
RANGERS (78-63)
Elvis Andrus SS
Michael Young 3B
David Murphy LF
Vladimir Guerrero DH
Nelson Cruz RF
Ian Kinsler 2B
Mitch Moreland 1B
Matt Treanor C
Julio Borbon CF
RHP Tommy Hunter (12-3, 3.99)
Hunter vs. Yankees
TIME/TV: 8:05 p.m. / YES Network and MLB Network
UMPIRES: HP Ted Barrett, 1B Alfronso Marquez, 2B Dan Iassogna, 3B Dale Scott
WEATHER: Pretty much the same as last night — temperatures in the high 80s with the wind blowing in — but this time there’s a chance of rain at about 10 p.m. local time.
WHAT GOES AROUND: After the Yankees walked off with a win on Wednesday, the Rangers walked off with a win against the Yankees on Friday. It was the first time this season that the Yankees walked off and were walked off against in back-to-back games. It happened to them twice last season.
PLENTY OF PRODUCTION: The Yankees have baseball’s only set of teammates — Mark Teixeira and Robinson Cano — with 90 runs and 90 RBI apiece. They are the only team in the Majors with five players who have scored at least 80 runs this season (Cano, Teixeira, Gardner, Jeter and Swisher).
NEW EXPERIENCE: The Yankees have a total of 12 career at-bats against Tommy Hunter. Curtis Granderson (3-for-4) is the only player in the Yankees lineup with more than two at-bats against him.
UPDATE, 8:29 p.m.: A walk and a two-out single. That’s enough for a 1-0 Rangers lead after one.
UPDATE, 8:35 p.m.: Back in his home state, Lance Berkman just singled in Robinson Cano to tie the game at 1.
UPDATE, 8:47 p.m.: It’s like April all over again. Francisco Cervelli’s big RBI single gave the Yankees a 2-1 lead before Nick Swisher struck out to end the second innings with the bases loaded.
UPDATE, 8:50 p.m.: Kevin Russo and Juan Miranda have been called up. They’ll be here tomorrow.
UPDATE, 8:59 p.m.: Hey look, the Yankees got Julio Borbon out.
UPDATE, 9:07 p.m.: An inning ago, there was action in the Rangers bullpen. Now Tommy Hunter has four straight strikeouts, including the side in the third inning when he burned through Mark Teixeira, Alex Rodriguez and Robinson Cano.
UPDATE, 9:18 p.m.: Another walk comes back to hurt Burnett. Guerrero drives in the run and ties the game at 2 after three innings.
UPDATE, 9:33 p.m.: Rough couple of nights for Brett Gardner, who stranded eight last night — five in the first three innings — and just struck out with two on to end the fourth inning.
Also, while the Yankees were taking the field for the bottom of the fourth, the video board showed members of the National Guard who are guests at tonight’s game. The crowd cheered and the Yankees stopped what they were doing to turn and cheer. Burnett was seriously on the mound clapping. Teixeira stopped short of the infield to do the same. Pretty neat.
UPDATE, 9:59 p.m.: Well that’s just bad luck. Cano lined out to second, and Mark Teixeira was doubled off to end the fifth inning. Still tied at 2.
UPDATE, 10:01 p.m.: It’s starting to rain. A lot of the crowd is retreating.
UPDATE, 10:02 p.m.: Rain delay. Most of the Yankees are staying in the dugout. That seems to be a good sign.
UPDATE, 10:33 p.m.: The tarp is coming off the field. Play is supposed to resume around 11 Eastern.
UPDATE, 10:52 p.m.: Chad Gaudin getting loose in the pen.
UPDATE, 11:05 p.m.: Another outfield assist for Gardner, Guerrero is out stretching and Gaudin is through a scoreless fifth.
UPDATE, 11:15 p.m.: Francisco Cervelli has reached base seven straight times.
UPDATE, 11:16 p.m.: Something must be wrong with Gardner. Austin Kearns is coming into pinch hit.
UPDATE, 11:25 p.m.: As Ring of Fire plays at the stadium, Boone Logan is coming in with no outs and runners at the corners.
UPDATE, 11:34 p.m.: It’s last night all over again. Here comes Robertson with the bases loaded. Let the quick pitching changes begin.
UPDATE, 11:45 p.m.: Nice play by Robinson Cano helps the Yankees end the sixth inning, but two runs scored on a sac fly and a two-out single off Robertson. Texas has taken a 4-2 lead.
UPDATE, 12:02 a.m.: Pedro Strop is the same Rangers reliever who walked Mark Teixeira with the bases loaded last night. Tonight he’s come in with the bases loaded again, and this time he’s allowed a run on a wild pitch and walked Curtis Granderson to reload the bases. Now Jorge Posada is pinch hitting for Ramiro Pena.
UPDATE, 12:08 a.m.: Of course, Posada grounds into a double play. The Yankees have loaded the bases in three innings, and they’ve put two on in two innings. They have three runs to show for it. Eduardo Nunez now playing shortstop for the Yankees.
UPDATE, 12:22 a.m.: A two-out walk and a two-out single have pushed the Texas lead to 5-3 and chased Robertson from the game. Here comes Albaladejo. There is nothing else I can add that you don’t already know.
UPDATE, 12:40 a.m.: The Yankees have now loaded the bases three innings in a row, and in four of eight innings overall.
UPDATE, 12:42 a.m.: Finally a Yankee gets a big hit in Arlington. Rodriguez doubled down the line, clearing the bases and giving the Yankees a 6-5 lead.
Just Don’t Lose !
@Trisha I agree that fans have an effect on games. The fans are called the 10th man for a reason.
That’s the spirit!
SAS & trisha,
I was only half joking, but yes the romance went from May to October and to April and on to another October. Maybe somebody’s biological clock’s ticking & nagging his ass about it. He always said he didn’t want to marry until he left baseball. His offseason was his time to play house. His calendar is all mixed up!
You know your third place Sux will do their best for you Ruby but they did ask me to tell you that they wished you’d spend your time on SOSH rooting for them instead of hanging here because you know what a superstitious bunch baseball players are. They believe you’re bringing them bad karma and Ortiz said especially is pissed. He said that he’s good friends with Sam and that he’s going to find out your real name and where you live and that if you are still hanging here during games he’s going to drink three milkshakes instead of just one and come and find you and hit you 450 feet.
Just letting you know.
Ugh! Tampa crushed Toronto today. Those Jays needed to show more fight…
“His offseason was his time to play house. His calendar is all mixed up!”
Absolutely. When’s the last time you saw Jeter have a mediocre game and show up the next day at some public sporting event (US Open) with a squeeze on his arm, looking all happy. Our boy is definitely smitten. She flew out from LA to go to the US Open with him and then hopped a plane and went back to LA. That’s some serious business.
Yankeefran – 13-1! And let me say that it’s a good thing that some of my position players came through big time for me this week in fantasy baseball because I had Ricky Romero as one of my pitchers and he earned me negative points today. Ouch!
In head-to-head fantasy baseball, I would think fantasy players would consider anything over 21 points a good week for a position player. Check this out. Troy bleepin Tulowitzky earned me 52 points – so far; Shane Victorino – 39.5; and Vernon Wells – 29.5. That’s some heavy pointage!
GO YANKEES!
“clownthrowindown September 11th, 2010 at 7:31 pm
Girardi bends over backwards to support Jeter and the payback he gets is an ungracious qoute from Jeter. Why can’t Jeter just say the break will be good or something along those lines? Instead the spoiled brat makes a little passive aggressive remark. Hey Jeter…its true you don’t get hits if you aren’t in the game…but with you its also true that you don’t get hits even if you ARE in the game. Pompous, egocentric, pampered brat.”
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FAIL and so wrong in every direction.
Minka has nothng to do with Derek’s hitting woes. I think his legs are really bothering him this year. He seems to have very heavy feet when he runs right now.
Texas has a 7.5 game lead in their divison. Look for the Yankees to take this game.
@Trisha Do you think the Yankees would be better off facing Texas or the Twins in the ALDS? Or would you not mind either?
it sounds like everyone besides thames and arod in this lineup are 2 for 20 something.
Phil in Columbus – we have no way of knowing exactly what the components are. But what we do know is that Jeter is doing in-season relationship things with Minka that he theretofore never did with his relationship squeezes. In addition there was a story about him signing autographs at some Steiner collectables auction and Minka was with him – this was recently. The article talked about how he was participating in some PDA – also not at all Jeter-like. Let’s just say I would feel a lot more comfortable about believing this was all injury related if he wasn’t so immersed in his relationship with Minka.
lil m,
Which part is wrong?
Girardi did support him.
Jeter did make a passive aggressive remark.
Jeter does suck.
Jeter is egocentric.
good start. he and javy are battling for who sucks more…
Jersey Boys was PHENOMENAL! (just saw them as part of a commercial on YES)
Jacob good question. If forced to pick one or the other I think I would go with Minny if only because the Yankees know how to tame them and so there is that familiarity factory that comes into play. The Rangers are the new tough kid on the block and they have a weapon they haven’t had in a long time – quality pitching. Plus they can hit. I believe Minny has a built-in worry factor when it comes to the Yanks but the Rangers are feeling their oats (may he rest in peace, what a lovely man he was. Johnny Oates)
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Okay, I did say that AJ might have a shaky inning or two…
nothing like walking the leadoff hitter AJ…….
I could be wrong, but I don’t think it was AJ’s hair that was causing him to pitch poorly.
Jacob, who would you rather have the Yanks face?
AJ, please do not start falling apart in the 1st inning. We need good AJ!
Texas would be 8 games out of the wild card if they were in another division
tommy hunter can throw strikes. why cant aj?
@Trisha I agree with the familiarity factor and the ability to tame the Twins. Pavano, Duensing, and Blackburn do not scare me. Only Mauer and Morneau scare me.
AJ – you know how to pitch buddy. Dig deep and just trust your stuff. Come on AJ. Good vibes flowing your way. Right gang?
aj’s half innings are so brutal to watch. they go on and on and on, and there is always someone on base.
AJ with awful command again. This could get ugly quick again.
yeah trisha….. except we know him so it is hard to rally.
And Jacob, Mourneau probably won’t even play in the postseason.
AJ Bustnett
swish has a distinctive limp. i respect him playing through it but man he looks like he is in pain.
Lets do a poll. Who sucks more? AJ or Jetes?
@trisha What is wrong with Morneau?
ac1 – the faith of a mustard seed can move mountains.
I think it’s better to have all of our positive vibes going to AJ rather than have a bunch of negative stuff out there. You get more with honey than with vinegar!
i’ll take jeter over aj. jeter is bad this year but had 15 years of being good. aj doesnt have that to fall back on.
So as I was saying boys and girls.
May it continue!
I think it’s better to have all of our positive vibes going to AJ rather than have a bunch of negative stuff out there. You get more with honey than with vinegar!
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yep… but i am not blind or stupid either.
DON’T START COMPLAINING
It’s only one run.
oh well hope the Yankees are in the mood for scoring runs today
@trisha Why did you never respond to my trade request? Did you think it was unfair?
first of many for da Bust
aj may have more luck if he tried pitching ahead in the count.
at this point, NOVA would have to start over this pathetic excuse for a starting pitcher in the playoffs.
Nova in all caps nice.
“yep… but i am not blind or stupid either.”
Nor forgiving or understanding it would seem. Nor probably do you practice unconditional love, at least not when it comes to your rooting interest!
I always like the feeling of not having to say I’m sorry for jumping the gun. But whatever works for you I guess.
I hope everybody is well and ready for a win tonight. It got a bit testy last evening. There were a lot of negative vibes. I hope we are all in a good mood. Kay is not in a happy place.
jacob – trade request?????
aj just got some help from the ump. he needs to pick up the pace, just to keep the teams heads in the game. my eyes were glazing over watching him pitch.
Over under aj innings pitched… 5???
Boy, AJ really is sweating out there. It has to be tough playing in that heat. I just hope AJ settles down.
I’m familiar with the 12th man in football concept but not the 10th man in baseball.
In AL baseball, the 10th man would be the DH.
I always like the feeling of not having to say I’m sorry for jumping the gun. But whatever works for you I guess.
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I can always admit when i jump the gun, and i often hope i am wrong about AJ. I can generally stay positive except for aj and javy. Even if AJ wins, it doesnt change what i said.
1. always have someone on base
2. pitches really slow
3. always behind in the count.
Which is wrong?
@trisha I sent a request a week ago; never got any response. I wondered if you were upset by it.
wow does this whole umpiring crew suck…..and that is BS if they make bad calls on purpose so hitters will swing
Jacob, this is the update on Mourneau:
Morneau has been out since early July with post-concussions symptoms and is still battling occasional headache spells. He has another month before the postseason to recover and work on his timing at the plate. An early-October return would be a real boost for the playoff-bound Twins.
none the less i believe when playoff time comes, the yankees will make it happen…
Well, that was a foot outside
Everything is bigger in Texas, including the strike zones
Yankeefran September 11th, 2010 at 8:28 pm
Boy, AJ really is sweating out there. It has to be tough playing in that heat. I just hope AJ settles down.
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Yeah, Hunter really seems to be struggling with it too.
nice hit.. hope cano gets hot again.
jacob – I never got it! I wondered why you didn’t send me the request. I figured you thought since I didn’t really know what I was doing in fantasy football that you just didn’t bother.
Hunter is throwing lots of strikes
“1. always have someone on base
2. pitches really slow
3. always behind in the count.
Which is wrong?”
None of them if he gets out of innings and wins the games for us…
berkman is heating up…
“Lets do a poll. Who sucks more? AJ or Jetes?”
I think you do for proposing such a poll.
Puma,
Puma! Is what I meant to post. Damn iPad
Shut down inning for AJ please?
solid Berkman
@trisha That’s weird. I will resend a request in the next few days. Thanks for providing the information on Morneau.
yankees are a contageious hitting team. 1 starts and the flood gates open.
YankeesWFAN
Lance Berkman is now 10 for 20 since coming off the DL.
AJ talks about taking pride in having shut down innings. We shall see what happens here in the bottom half. CMON
trisha
well said
trisha – true pinstriped blue says:
September 11, 2010 at 8:33 pm
“1. always have someone on base
2. pitches really slow
3. always behind in the count.
Which is wrong?”
None of them if he gets out of innings and wins the games for us…
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his problem is he has zero command
i feel like cervelli is going to nail one here.
Cano now has a twitter account. That’s pretty cool.
ac1 says:
September 11, 2010 at 8:38 pm
i feel like cervelli is going to nail one here.
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does grounding out to short count as nailing one
See this is the real problem. Everyone wants Jeter’s head but cmon your options are Pena or Nunez right now. Might as well let Jeter play.
C E R V E L L I !
does grounding out to short count as nailing one
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Maybe sharply.
Take two pitches here Cervy. 3-0 count
TOLD YOU!
Cervelli got a couple of hits lately
Ac1-
I think that qualifies.
i just dont have the same feeling for gardner though
Well, that is more like it.
UnKnown says:
September 11, 2010 at 8:40 pm
See this is the real problem. Everyone wants Jeter’s head but cmon your options are Pena or Nunez right now. Might as well let Jeter play.
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well said… They don’t have hanley rameriz on the bench
cervelli is about to pass jeter in average… he is hitting at the right time.
And after a very tough week managing, Joe Girardi finally does something right in sending Pena to allow Cervelli’s shot to get past Ian. Things are a turning.
george bush looks like such a doof….
G A R D N E R !
Where’s all the Cervelli hate gone? He was Public Enemy #1 on the blog for a while.
“i feel like cervelli is going to nail one here.”
the power of positive thinking. Or as my dad used to tell us, it takes 37 muscles to frown. It only takes 22 to smile! (or whatever the numbers were)
now that scranton is out, who do we think the yankees will bring up?
wow that usually gets called on gardner.
C’mon Swish, keep the line moving.
3 run double?
Something in the gap would be awesome.
What a difference a night makes. It also helps when you send runners sometimes. They are working Hunter pretty well. This is going to be another big night for the bullpens.
actually Cervelli had a pretty nice thing going in the last week and a half or so. I think he was hitting over .400. But rather than do homework, posters just seem to remember the bad and proceed from there!
S W I S H E R !
arod, berkman, and cervelli are on a streak right now.
After leaving 18 lob last night. Clearing the bases here would be Grand
I wonder if Berkman could play outfield and give Swisher a few nights off. He is hurting.
o’neill doesnt seem to consider the fact that the strike zone in this series has been all over, so they arent taking as many.
It almost seems like A-Rod’s been great mostly against teams for whom he played in the past
NO BIG DEAL. Swisher has done plenty for us. Yankees will continue to flourish tonight.
ugly looking at bat by Swisher and we just left 3 guys on base……but hey at least we got the lead I mean AJ is going to shut the Rangers down no worries
Why thanks for trying to hit a slam Swish.
dont remind us about the 18 LOB last night. hopefully those three are it.
Please, let’s not have another night of 18 LOB.
BJK September 11th, 2010 at 8:30 pm
Yankeefran September 11th, 2010 at 8:28 pm
Boy, AJ really is sweating out there. It has to be tough playing in that heat. I just hope AJ settles down.
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Yeah, Hunter really seems to be struggling with it too.
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He sure was.
Can Burnett stand prosperity ? Can he make a one-run lead hold up ?
During this half inning let me say this. I have a HUGE problem with umpiring in baseball and tend to write some kind of article on it and hope I can get it published. This is pure BS and no players should have to play with umpires who can’t get balls and strikes right.
The 10th player has turned into the flippin home plate umpire!
i cant get mad at swish. he is playing his heart out and very injured.
bottom 2: Dear AJ, dont pull a Monica and give the runs back please please please.
that should read “and intend”
108 stitches c’mon now you must be crazy
Of course da Bust can’t do that
The 2 runs are nice but they fail to get the big hit once again. I wish Swish had the eye to lay off that crap in the dirt.
Kevin Russo and Juan Miranda called up.
Trisha, Umping as a whole has been awful this year. beyond awful. This may be all that Hawk Harrison and I agree on.
# ac1 September 11th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
i cant get mad at swish. he is playing his heart out and very injured.
bottom 2: Dear AJ, dont pull a Monica and give the runs back please please please.
Wish some people could take that same approach with Captain.
C’mon AJ, shut down inning please.
Now let’s see how long this lead lasts. AJ throw strikes!!!
What do you think? Will A.J. give the runs right back this inning?
# Chad Jennings September 11th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
Kevin Russo and Juan Miranda called up.
I think you meant to say, #28 is now a lock.
I want to discuss something good tonight. Adam Warren in Trenton.
He looks real good and i hope he gets a shot in AAA next year, and gets to the Yankees…. Real impressive.
It would be nice if AJ got the corners called strikes like Texas did yesterday and today. The strike zone is only gigantic for them.
Way to many balls as usual for Allen James.
AJ is working on getting his confidence back. So much of his game is mental. So be patient while he is working it out. He’s at least getting hitters out. The more it happens, maybe the more he will trust his stuff.
Wish some people could take that same approach with Captain.
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I personally dont often complain about Jeter, but my confidence in him this year is non-existent. I respect him as much as any player though and i think this is a 1 year thing.
m September 11th, 2010 at 8:48 pm
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He sure was.
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LOL. Gladly stand corrected on that one, m. I just don’t buy blaming pitchers’s struggles on being affected by 91 degree heat. That’s why they’re paid the big bucks.
I will take AJ over Javy 100%. AJ has it in him, and we have seen it. Plus, he often gets later into games. Javy should be in the pen because he has been good there.
1. Thanks, Chad, for the update on players called up.
2. Ted Barrett appears a bit inconsistent in his outside strike zone. It doesn’t help AJ. Though, so far, so good. Just get out of this inning.
Too many fastballs. Throw some curves.
I’m a Matt Treanor fan just for the fact that his at-bat music is the A-Team theme
Oddly enough I think Moseley will beat Lee tomorrow. Well it isn’t odd that I would choose a Yankee pitcher over the competition, but it is the particular match up that I am talking about.
GO AJ!!!!!
I won’t be surprised if Jeter gets arthroscopic knee surgery after the season.
i am so conflicted on Cliff Lee. I want him to suck against us, but i want to see the dominant cliff lee again, so when we get him, we know we are getting a second Ace.
BJK,
I think Texas is throwing Lee at us just to spite us…and him!
What’s the A-Team music for, Traenor or regular stadium thing?
Where was that pitch?
WTF? Where exactly was that?
I would love to know where that pitch was
gah! This arbitrary zone is just…arbitrary!
Carl – understand the player and then you understand the nuances. If he doesn’t have a feel for his curve he isn’t going to throw it, especially trying to get his game back on track. Pitchers need to believe in what they are throwing. It doesn’t matter what fans think they should be throwing!
Thats the wicked curve AJ used to throw. That had bite and depth.
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AJ’s looking better. He just needs to keep this going for longer than a few innings.
Ruby Tuesday September 11th, 2010 at 8:51 pm
What do you think? Will A.J. give the runs right back this inning?
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Nope. I got one for you. Will Ruby Tuesday ever get a prediction right?
HooHoo. Nice swing and a miss.
AJ’s curve looks better tonight.
That curve was nasty
# trisha – true pinstriped blue September 11th, 2010 at 8:58 pm
Carl – understand the player and then you understand the nuances. If he doesn’t have a feel for his curve he isn’t going to throw it, especially trying to get his game back on track. Pitchers need to believe in what they are throwing. It doesn’t matter what fans think they should be throwing!
Did you just see that curve trisha. I think you did. Yep
At least there is som positivity on here tonight. Last night was brutal on this blog.
ac1 September 11th, 2010 at 8:56 pm
i am so conflicted on Cliff Lee. I want him to suck against us, but i want to see the dominant cliff lee again, so when we get him, we know we are getting a second Ace.
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Perhaps this will spur a conflict resolution for you.
I hope we BOMB Cliff Lee.
Yes Carl I did. But I didn’t demand that he throw it.
I’m actually happy letting AJ do his thing without any of my expert help – at least in terms of choosing pitches for him.
The first bottom half inning was brutal on this blog.
better inning from AJ there..still getting behind too much. Can’t continue to do that but he does seem to have a little better feel for his curveball tonight than he’s had recently.
Puma is in attack mode.
I did predict a loss last night. No?
Speaking of positivity…
Where is Mr. one-and-done SJ44?
kay and joe talking umps in the car? I’d imagine there had to be some four letter words there.
Not Teixera’s best hack
ac – I told you Barrett has an interesting version of the strike zone.
where has tex’s bat gone? he was red hot a week ago. like 10 for 11 at some point.
“At least there is som positivity on here tonight. Last night was brutal on this blog”
I wasn’t here last night but I’m here tonight. And I don’t suffer fools gladly. So I am not going to stop the positivity going because there are some posters who are so faint of heart that they can’t see the forest for the trees. That’s my gift to the forum tonight – at least my gift to those who know how to enjoy life despite the bumps in the road!
I hate when the guys struggle because the patience is no where to be found.
triple? not quite Kay.
double.
Yeah SJ44 was kind’ve freaking out after the loss last night. What was up with that?? Weird?
“The first bottom half inning was brutal on this blog.”
mel, I actually think it’s sad that some people are so insecure or demanding that they totally lack perspective and do nothing but knee jerk. Certainly not a healthy way to do life.
Yes,but if they fall behind we will be bombarded by posters who claim the team with the best record in baseball is underachieving.
Since everyone is getting along, who is sharing pics of their significant other tonight??
I caught that mistake by Kay, too.
BTW. The camera guys need to stop rewarding people for bringing Kay signs. They’re not Kay fans, and they don’t deserve face time for pretending to be!
Not sure about this little change Alex has made with his hands. He has been swinging it pretty well since coming off the DL but there are AB’s where it just seems like he has a hard time getting his timing after he lifts the bat off his shoulder….not all the time but occasionally its like he doesn’t get ready in time and it throws his rhythm off….I guess time will tell. He knows what he’s doing more than I do….
“I hate when the guys struggle because the patience is no where to be found.”
Are you being funny here?
I can name at least five posters right now who are pretty darned patient. It’s just that their voices are drowned out by the yelping and howling of those who are not.
LGY September 11th, 2010 at 9:07 pm
Since everyone is getting along, who is sharing pics of their significant other tonight??
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And no, Ruby. This does not mean we want to see a picture of your right hand.
Kim looks pretty!
just to be clear, it isnt knee jerk to talk about the flaws of a pitcher.
I saw and complained about AJ, but i never declared the game or the season over. That is knee jerk, but simply talking about AJ’s problems is not.
I think Jeter needs to grow his hair back out….even if he’s losing a little in the front there…..the struggles coincided with the buzzing of the hair.
nice catch Swish
Man Swish got up like Jordan on that catch
Ac1-
Agreed. I don’t have a problem with specific in-game criticisms. I just hate all the prognosticators here who are convinced that every bad game will equate to a bad postseason. One has no bearing on the other.
gah! the strike zone. 2 quick outs. nice.
no matter how bad jeter has been, the idea that it is age is just stupid. you dont just completely lose the ability to hit when you hit .310 for 15 years, and .337 last year. Age isn’t the problem. Something else is definitely wrong.
Kim Jones is really hot.
AJ seems to have found a rhythm which is very important for him.
“I did predict a loss last night. No?”
Yeah, and OUCH! 5-0 with BOCholz (Bride of Chucky) pitching. Scary indeed.
Good job Ruby!
I think Jeter needs to grow his hair back out….even if he’s losing a little in the front there…..the struggles coincided with the buzzing of the hair.
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it isnt just the front. its the top/back too.
2 more of those for Mr. Guerrero, please.
2 out walks kill ya every time.
And then they score so easily. There goes the lead.
damn W looks emaciated
both runs AJ has allowed have been walks. Should have never thrown Vlad a pitch that close to the plate.
just when I thought AJ was doing so well
told ya 1 run wouldn’t hold for da bust
you dont just completely lose the ability to hit when you hit .310 for 15 years,
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Thats kind of exactly how age works?
AJ losing focus again.
“Should have never thrown Vlad a pitch that close to the plate.”
I wa typing that as he threw the pitch.
More 2 out bs…and yet another walk scores. Can AJ ever get the 3 out of an inning without givjng up a walk or a hit??!! What a headcase.
the most annoying thing here is the posters that ONLY contribute when something bad happens. Some of us may complain, but we contribue positive conversation too.
Carew hit .339 at age 37, then hit .295, then hit .280, 40 points below his career average.
I don’t know why anyone throws Vlad a strike. He just chased one that wasn’t even close, so the next pitch he hangs a curveball in the middle of the plate…..not smart.
Nice recovery.
Does anyone know what type of pitch it was that Vlad hit?
I think Jeter needs to grow his hair back out….even if he’s losing a little in the front there…..the struggles coincided with the buzzing of the hair.
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Not quite.
I cannot wait for all of you to act like you never said anything when jeter is hitting .300 again next year. I’m sure the hypocracy will be here in full force.
Vlad hit a hanging curve
Jerkface September 11th, 2010 at 9:18 pm
Carew hit .339 at age 37, then hit .295, then hit .280, 40 points below his career average
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Bernie Williams had quite the sudden decline as well.
Ac1-
One of those posters has a name spelled 66% of the way you spell yours.
“I don’t know why anyone throws Vlad a strike. He just chased one that wasn’t even close, so the next pitch he hangs a curveball in the middle of the plate…..not smart.”
That’s like a rookie mistake. I can excuse Hughes for that, but not AJ.
I wonder if Jorge was back there if they pitch Vlady different.
Giambi lost his ability to hit .300 as well in his thirties.
ac1,
I’m one of Jeter’s biggest supporters in case you haven’t noticed. That was a joke.
That is, you have only one letter difference from him.
The days that AJ and Vazquez start have to be such a downer for the offense. They score runs and the lead is always given up immediately. These 2 out walks and hits by AJ have to stop.
Puma is pouncing.
MPF Lance Berkman = Awesome
ac1, give me a break. This is talking about the flaws of the pitcher?
good start. he and javy are battling for who sucks more…
tommy hunter can throw strikes. why cant aj?
aj’s half innings are so brutal to watch. they go on and on and on, and there is always someone on base.
yeah trisha….. except we know him so it is hard to rally.
yep… but i am not blind or stupid either
I think the thing that surprises me most is that I have always thought of you as one of the positive posters here.
Sorry Straw, none of that qualifies as constructive discussion of a player’s problems. Not to me. That I think is more than welcome on a forum. I think someone like CB has shown the ability to do that. The rest is just whining and complaining.
Carew hit .339 at age 37, then hit .295, then hit .280, 40 points below his career average
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that is more gradual than .337 to .260.
Speaking of Frank Thomas, Frank Thomas! Hit .300 rather regularly then suddenly .260 or lower.
Tar,
I don’t know….maybe. AJ should know better than that but its probably just as likely that the pitch was supposed to be in the dirt or outside and he just missed his location and hung it in the middle of the plate…either way, it wasn’t a good pitch.
that is more gradual than .337 to .260.
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Jeter hit .300 the year before. And it doesn’t have to be gradual.
trisha…
ill give you some of that.
but again, talking about how boring some of those half innings are is not knee jerk and expecting the worst from javy and aj comes from watching their games this year.
and i said i am bias against those two. find me being negative about anything else.
Thanks for showing up this yr Grandy
swung at ball 4
Pena gave it a ride
Especially for a hitter who made his living being quick to balls inside. Any loss of bat speed spells trouble if the hitter doesn’t adjust. Which Jeter obviously has not done given his approach to inside pitches.
“And then they score so easily. There goes the lead.”
In case you hadn’t noticed, the Rangers have been an offensive juggernaut for a while.
“AJ losing focus again.”
Because he gave up a hit to Vladdy? Seriously? This isn’t Babe Ruth League baseball. Hitters get hits. It doesn’t mean that the pitcher is losing focus.
trisha… i live in boston now. maybe they are wearing off on me?
Trisha-
I can live with those comments more than the “we are not capable of matching up with Tampa” or ” we have a 1 man rotation and everyone else is better” or “the offense is terrible”. At least specific player complaints are more fact based than this other subjective generalizations.
Posada looks pretty pissed off.
Centerfield is so deep here. So many of our fly balls just died out there over the past 2 nights.
Offensive juggernaut? They’re score 80 fewer runs than the Yankees.
with russo, nunez and pena here, is there any chance jeter will take a few days to try to hear his body a bit? I still believe is is hurt and it isnt him being 1 year older.
Bullpens are gonna decide this game tonight as well.
Wonder if Washington will go to his pen fifty times tonight.
Gardner takes another 1st pitch cookie. Pitchers know he won’t swing so they just aim for the middle of the plate.
Poor Gardner, he keeps coming up to bat with men on base and 2 outs.
ac1, as I said, you are one of the most positive posters on this forum. That’s a good thing.
Ace, I am going to be kind about this because we are all different individuals. It is my opinion that you find fault more than you praise. In a season of 162 games, you are going to be a very unhappy camper if you look at each player under a microscope. Hardly ever is there going to be an entire period of time where there are no problems for any particular players. And some will have more difficult periods of time than others. That’s the ebb and flow of the game. What you want to do is remember the times that Granderson came through and helped the team to win games – and there were those times. Without those games the Yankees wouldn’t be where they are right now. Try to accentuate the positive and eliminate the negative. It can be done.
granderson ruined the inning
More RISP/LOB issues.
Gardner is getting pretty annoying with his reactions to borderline strikes. Someone needs to tell him that he is not a veteran.
Gardner needs to tighten his swing a bit. He has a very wide swing. Not enough power to get away with that swing long term.
does anyone else agree that Bush looks really old now?
could use a quick 1-2-3 here.
“Offensive juggernaut? They’re score 80 fewer runs than the Yankees.”
They are 4th in the AL in runs score and they are 2nd in the AL in average. Andrus can run and Vladdy can hit. The Rangers can hit. Don’t let them getting some hits and runs throw you too much.
Tex flossing the glove yet again.
When Tex is struggling with AB, try to remember what you just saw. Defense helps win games too.
ac-
1. I think there’s no question, Jeter’s hurting more than the average bear. It wasn’t that long ago I remember him limping trying to beat out grounders.
2. Gardner’s swing has been too long for a while. He needs to go up the middle more. But, what do I know?
3. Tex is fabulous at first.
Most presidents look old when their terms are over…pretty stressful gig I’d imagine.
What a play by Tex…
What a play by Tex. There are no words!
Flashing, that is.
blake
I went back and looked at it. To a mere mortal, that was pretty good pitch. At the knee or lower. Up and down plane it was right where Cervelli called for it, though it did get more of the plate than he wanted.
Not a bad pitch, but still think AJ should have known better. I have a harder time excusing mental mistakes.
Even the current president aged in office. It’s pretty stark.
But yes, Dubya looks older, but probably because he lost a lot of weight. Laura looks lovely, though.
need to stop walking people with 2 outs.
I don’t think that was ball 4. I think AJ had him.
need to stop walking people period.
Tossing out words like “juggernaut” with the Texas office is pretty absurd. They’re on pace to score 784 runs. A decent offense yes, will they score runs yes, but they are hardly a “juggernaut”
Yet another 2 out baserunner. Treanor is a non hitter, throw the ball over the plate and make him hit it.
Obama looks much older. Lots more gray hair now than a couple years ago.
hey a walk, leads to a texas rally
I wish the current president would age two more years and two months and then be on his merry way. Sorry, that’svmy first and last political comment ever on this blog.
This 2 out bs has to stop
da Bust continues to show she is a gutless wonder
Presidents are probably forced to function on an average of 5 hours of sleep.
Here is where AJ has to bear down and dig down.
COME ON AJ!!!! I know you can do it buddy.
Signed,
Trisha
Tampa is up 2-0 in the FSL championships!! One more to go.
tex is amazing at first. i hope the yankees can pull away from tampa a bit so they can rest some guys the last weekend to be fresher for the playoffs.
Be a great idea to get out of this inning right here. This has potential to get really ugly
And the wild pitches must cease.
oh god…..great job cervelli + AJ = dynamic duo
AJ does lose focus with 2 outs, there isn’t any doubt. The head case is at it again.
Gardner really needs to start hitting
Clinton’s before and after pics are pretty stark as well….that job weighs heavy on a person.
AJ has to stop walking people .
Big pitch for AJ
Eric UWS – correct me if I’m wrong but your posts here are typicall glass half full. So I can’t take them to heart.
Straw – my first and last political comment. Agree, and I voted for him.
Eric UWS that was wishful thinking on my part. I meant to say glass half empty.
perfect pitch.
There it is.
AJ making his own called strike signal?
i see felix’s name and i want to scream. im tired of the argument he should win the Cy Young with 10 wins. Yes he is a victim of bad offense, but he is also benefitting from only facing the yankees and the rest of the East a couple times. If CC got to face the AL west 20 times each, i bet his ERA would be in the lower 2s also.
great pitch and a bit of good fortune on the call….that one could have went either way. Glad Young won’t be up with the bases loaded.
GO AJ! GO AJ! I HIT IT! I HIT IT! GO AJ! GO AJ!
Faith is its own reward.
Bryan September 11th, 2010 at 9:42 pm
da Bust continues to show she is a gutless wonder
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As he comes back from 3-0 for the strikeout to end the threat.
AJ is showing some more mental toughness tonight. Must happen whenever he’s in Cliff Lee’s presence.
That corner is proving to be more beneficial to AJ than Hunter. AJ needs all the corners he can get. Lets freaking go now with the power coming up.
“i see felix’s name and i want to scream.”
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I scream because he chose the Mariners over the Yankees when he first signed out of Venezuela.
good job swisher
“AJ is showing some more mental toughness tonight. ”
A couple of lapses, but so far he’s got it done when he needed to.
“i see felix’s name and i want to scream. im tired of the argument he should win the Cy Young with 10 wins”
It’s not a ridiculous argument. Hernandez has been the best pitcher in the AL by a pretty wide margin.
Swish needs a couple days off.y
That was hit to the good side of second base.
“AJ is showing some more mental toughness tonight. Must happen whenever he’s in Cliff Lee’s presence.”
And here I was thinking that my faith in him and my positive vibes had gone into the universe and reached his psyche!
Is a banged up Swisher better than a healthy Kearns or Curtis? Swish needs a couple of days off.
How bout parking one in the bleachers here Alex.
Take em all you want Trisha. I pitched Division 1 baseball and played against guys like
- Andrew Miller and Daniel Bard when they were at UNC
-Delcarmen in high school at West Roxbury HS in Mass
- Dustin Pedroia at ASU
-Matt Weiters
I think I know a little about how the game is played.
“I scream because he chose the Mariners over the Yankees when he first signed out of Venezuela”
Speaking of mental lapses, not a good decision on his part.
Sooner or later Alex is going to catch one of these and pound it.
You know I don’t mean to chill discussion here but I don’t think it’s unreasonable for the constant complainers to have to sit it out, so to speak, for a night and see what it’s like to root for your team without putting every step to the plate or every pitch under a microscope. A marathon, not a sprint. Try coming to the other side even for a night. You might actually learn to like it!
good job arod
trish, can i have some of what youre smokin?
Wonder if Misty May is at the game watching her hubby catch.
Nice AB by Alex….looked like he was seeing the ball better than AB…took better swings.
It’s not a ridiculous argument. Hernandez has been the best pitcher in the AL by a pretty wide margin.
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PArtly because of competition.
I do not believe he would be this good if he faced the AL East 18 times each, each year.
Every team in the AL East can hit.
Only team in the AL West that can hit is the Rangers.
this kay just loves the sound of his own voice.
Looks like another late night between the weather and the slow pace of the game. By the way, I think Cano’s last few swings look better.
“I think I know a little about how the game is played.”
Lots of people know a little about how the game is played. But not everyone knows how to be gracious in the face of adversity. It might be something for you to think about.
the yankees are a disgrace.
what a mess.
they have complely tanked
really Tex….horrible base running you should not get doubled up off of a line drive
More bad luck for the Yanks. It’ll turn, but this recent spat is frustrating.
:/
This team is finding new ways to look terrible every day. I’m almost impressed.
ball luck….
well jesusmonterofordh has finally made it to the party.
wow, bad baserunning by Tex.
where the heck was tex going?
Great way to end another inning. I guess they are trying to leave more guys on base tonight than last night. The at bats with runners on base are brutal.
that rain must be refreshing to the players.
“trish, can i have some of what youre smokin?”
Unfortunate that level-headed thinking doesn’t come naturally to you mick. But since I don’t smoke anything but common sense I would suggest that you go to your doctor and ask for some valium or something else that will even you out. Best I can do for you.
No charge for the advice.
Don’t forget his friend ChokeXO.
This game has a familar stench. Missed opportunities. AJ needs a shutdown inning in the rain.
aj needs to hold them this inning if there is a storm headed there.
the hot berkman coming up , tex in scoring position would have been nice
“I do not believe he would be this good if he faced the AL East 18 times each, each year.”
Sabathia has 12 starts against the AL East. ‘s 6-2 (4 wins over the O’s) with a 3.38
Hernandez has starts against the AL East. He’s 5-0 (3 wins over the Yankees) w/ an ERA below 1.
Sabathia has been terrific this year, but he’s not been as good as Hernandez.
“the yankees are a disgrace.
what a mess.
they have complely tanked”
Y-A-W-N!
Matt and clownthrowindown to reappear any second.
that rain looks as thick as snow
I don’t know where Tex was going but he should of had plenty of time to back since Kinsler looked at 1st base first. That brain fart was very Posada like.
It seems like AJ has sure pitched in a bunch of games where rain has delayed the game.
trish, why are you so condescending?
always the need to one up…
Trisha, I’m not getting into flame war with you. You called their offence a “juggernaut” which is a patently false statement. 4th in the AL in runs and on pace for less than 800 does not a “jugernaut” make. The end.
AJ Burnett has pitched a very good game for the Yankees, especially in light of the way he had been pitching and in light of the Texas heat. This is the AJ we have wanted to see. The Rangers are much more used to playing in staggering heat than the Yanks are. Cut them some slack.
a 900 run offense is a juggernaut. A 700 run offense is average.
10 wins is 10 wins. If CC has more than 20 wins and a 3 ERA, that has to trump Felix. If CC was 20-5 with a 5 ERA, thats different….
And CC also has that one game he would have won but was called with 2 strikes and 2 outs in the 5th.
Just like felix shouldnt be penalized for his team, cc shouldnt be penalized for pitching to his situation. He doesnt have to completely strike everyone out. He just needs to win.
TheStraw September 11th, 2010 at 10:02 pm
Matt and clownthrowindown to reappear any second.
You forgot the California crew
lol the Texas crew is doing the slowest job I’ve ever seen in covering the infield
The 2009 yankees had a better road offense than the 2010 Rangers have offense at home. 2009 yankees were a juggernaut.
“why are you so condescending?
always the need to one up…”
Are you playing stupid or are you really stupid? You come in here and ask for some of what I’m smoking? Bug off mick. You’re like one of the midges in Cleveland. We have enough crybaby behavior on this forum. I’m here and I’m trying to keep it upbeat. If you don’t like it that’s too bad. Okay? Anytime you come at me with something stupid you can bet I’m going to come back. Or did mommy and daddy bring you up to think that little mick can say what he wants and everyone is going to bow?
Just wondering.
“without putting every step to the plate or every pitch under a microscope”
Trisha
I think you mean to not over react to every pitch or step to the plate.
It’s the nuances, the minutia that fascinate me. Putting the game under a microscope is how I slow the game down.
But you’re right, over reacting to it, is absurd.
“You called their offence a “juggernaut” which is a patently false statement. 4th in the AL in runs and on pace for less than 800 does not a “jugernaut” make. The end.”
Uh you played ball and you spell it “offence”? Okay there Eric. Let me say this. Since you are one of the biggest pissers and moaners on the forum I felt I needed a brick bat to get your attention. So juggernaut was the word. The end.
trish has taken over the blog, sorry to intrude…
don’t mean to be rude.
“If CC has more than 20 wins and a 3 ERA, that has to trump Felix”
In terms of winning the Cy Young, sure. In terms of actually being the best pitcher, no.
Tar – for people with perspective, the microscope is a really nice thing. For people lacking in it, it’s an instrument of destruction.
Enough said.
Is it possible to be the best offensive team in baseball and NOT be a juggernaut?
“Is it possible to be the best offensive team in baseball and NOT be a juggernaut?”
What you are describing are the 2010 Yankees
Aj pitched well today? Not really
trisha – true pinstriped blue September 11th, 2010 at 10:03 pm
AJ Burnett has pitched a very good game for the Yankees, especially in light of the way he had been pitching and in light of the Texas heat. This is the AJ we have wanted to see. The Rangers are much more used to playing in staggering heat than the Yanks are. Cut them some slack.
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You must not be watching the same game I’m watching.
Burnett has not been good. He’s lucky only 2 runs have scored.
Bill D September 11th, 2010 at 10:10 pm
“If CC has more than 20 wins and a 3 ERA, that has to trump Felix”
In terms of winning the Cy Young, sure. In terms of actually being the best pitcher, no.
-Felix has proven nothing in the postseason yet. I’ll take CC over him anytime.
King Felix has better stats than CC [other than wins], but he’s not winning the Cy Young if he finishes with less than 15 wins. 10 wins just doesn’t cut it.
“Aj pitched well today?”
He pitched well for AJ.
“trish has taken over the blog, sorry to intrude…
don’t mean to be rude.”
You got it bucko. I’m here tonight and I’m the head cheerleader. The negative lohud forum has hoperfully gone on sabbatical for at least a night. Since I don’t dwell here during games there are plenty more where you can take over and be whoever you need to be. But tonight I decided I’m going to be heard. Those who don’t like it can scroll on by. Never mistake kindness for weakness. I really like being a happy and cheerful person. But I will step up the the plate and hit them out anytime someone puts out the challenge.
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Would everyone take a game like tonight’s from AJ every time?
Im just talking about cy young. felix may be the best.
Jacksquat-
I’d like to see you hit a few of those curves that have ended innings. No, AJ is markedly better tonight. Not great, but markedly better.
“Is it possible to be the best offensive team in baseball and NOT be a juggernaut?”
Sure. This year, nobody is going to come close to 900 runs. Yankees are pretty clearly the best offensive team in 2010, but measured against some of the truly great offensive teams over the years, including several editions of the Yankees, they don’t compare favorably.
Mick, you like being the master baiter huh?
and again, part of felix’s better stats is his competition. he has been good in limited starts vs the east. its like when an al pitcher goes to the nl and drops their era 1 run. the AL East is by far the toughest division to pitch regularly in. Baltimore’s in last and their offense is better than 3 of 4 teams in the AL West.
Hey two runs in the Texas heat? I’d take it every time. The important thing is to get out of innings. We cheer like heck when Andy and others get into jams and get out of them. So should we with AJ.
And yes Laura, another way to look at it is he did pitch well for AJ.
TR10, I read your posts from last night and was happy to see you call some people out.
TheStraw September 11th, 2010 at 10:16 pm
Jacksquat-
I’d like to see you hit a few of those curves that have ended innings. No, AJ is markedly better tonight. Not great, but markedly better.
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AJ always throws a few nasty curves. In 4 innings he’s given up 4 hits and walked 3. He doesn’t have command as usual. He’s been helped by some good defense, balls hit right at fielders, and Texas hitters helping him at times.
“and again, part of felix’s better stats is his competition.”
Starts against teams .500 or better: Sabathia 15, Hernandez 19
Starts against teams under .500: Sabathia 15, Hernandez 11
TR10,
That’s hilarious.
Felix is good, but imagine how good CC would be pitching in the West parks against the AL West hitters.
Hey I want to enter the Chevy fan of the year contest – or whatever they were scrolling at the bottom of the screen!
Bill D-
So if ERA means everything, Mo should win the Cy Young, correct?
Its fair enough to give CC credit for the competition in the East. But, likewise, you then have to factor in the 7 runs a game of support he gets and that seven of his wins are against Seattle, Baltimore and KC. CC is a beast and deserves the award. But its not outrageous to give it Felix.
Is it possible to be the best offensive team in baseball and NOT be a juggernaut?
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Sure, it depends on the degree of separation. If every team in baseball scored around 700 runs and the #1 team scored like 20 more runs than the #2 team, I wouldn’t call that a juggernaut.
The yankees through the years have been positively juggernautic.
Let’s put it this way, the AL East is an offensive juggernaut. Wouldn’t you agree, trisha?
“AJ always throws a few nasty curves. In 4 innings he’s given up 4 hits and walked 3. He doesn’t have command as usual. He’s been helped by some good defense, balls hit right at fielders, and Texas hitters helping him at times.”
jack he has 6 Ks in 4 innings. And some of those strike 3′s were nasty pitches. He actually has had command on some of the hitters. His command has gotten better as the night has gone on. I think he is feeling better about his pitching and getting more confidence. You can see it in his body language.
“So if ERA means everything, Mo should win the Cy Young, correct?”
There’s an exceedingly stupid way of looking at it. Though there was one year when Rivera probably should have won.
Why is there so much hate here? Can’t we as Yankee fans get past this competition. The game and the team come first. Relax and put this into perspective.
Starts against teams .500 or better: Sabathia 15, Hernandez 19
Starts against teams under .500: Sabathia 15, Hernandez 11
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Oakland and Anaheim were over .500 for a little bit.
We are going to have to agree to disagree here.
mel – absolutely! Check out what both Baltimore and Toronto are able to do offensively, and they are our 4 and 5 teams!
Felix has better numbers against the East than CC does, and unlike CC, Felix has to face ALL teams in the East, CC doesn’t have to face the Yankees offense. I think he could handle it just fine.
88 pitches is a lot for 4 innings. He was going to be fortunate to get to the sixth inning without the rain. Have to give him credit for limiting the damage, but he was going to need 12 outs from a pen that worked a lot of innings last night.
Its fair enough to give CC credit for the competition in the East. But, likewise, you then have to factor in the 7 runs a game of support he gets and that seven of his wins are against Seattle, Baltimore and KC. CC is a beast and deserves the award. But its not outrageous to give it Felix.
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I am just saying. CC has a 3 ERA not 5. And he can pitch to contact because of that run support. If felix got 7 runs a game, he could throw more fastballs and pitch more to contact and would have less Ks.
Funny how those with high K totals seem to come from bad teams? Felix, Greinke last year?
King Felix loaded the bases. If the Anahiem could make that ERA go up, It might help CC.
LOL!
354 comments; 54 by Trisha.
The rain delay is more interesting.
Well, that’s essentially what you’re saying with Felix. Sorry, 12 wins is almost only half of 20 and 12 losses is twice as many as 6. Felix shouldn’t even be in the Cy Young discussion playing for that sorry team. In fact, CC should be considered for MVP as well as the Cy.
By those standards, maybe Jon Lester should win the Cy Young. He has a lot of Ks and more wins (i think) than Felix. How bout Jered Weaver? Why not him?
“LOL!”
I’m always impressed by anyone who uses “LOL”
YAWN!
trisha – true pinstriped blue September 11th, 2010 at 10:25 pm
“AJ always throws a few nasty curves. In 4 innings he’s given up 4 hits and walked 3. He doesn’t have command as usual. He’s been helped by some good defense, balls hit right at fielders, and Texas hitters helping him at times.”
jack he has 6 Ks in 4 innings. And some of those strike 3’s were nasty pitches. He actually has had command on some of the hitters. His command has gotten better as the night has gone on. I think he is feeling better about his pitching and getting more confidence. You can see it in his body language.
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His command might be a little better, but it’s still not good. I’m just judging by the quality of pitches I’ve seen. I think he’s been not far from a another bad outing. Like last inning, he gets two outs, then a walk, a hit and a wild pitch, just like old AJ. At least he made a good pitch for the strikeout…
Oh nice, his ERA isn’t going up because he made a throwing error.
“Check out what both Baltimore and Toronto are able to do offensively”
Baltimore is 13th in the AL in scoring.
I think CC should win the Cy Young because he plays for the Yankees…there’s my case.
Oh nice, his ERA isn’t going up because he made a throwing error.
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I feel like when the pitchers makes the error, the runs should still be earned, because he is the one who caused the runs to score, hence they were earned off him.
rah rah sis boom bah!
“At least he made a good pitch for the strikeout…”
jack, I think that’s the kind of thing I try to build on. While he isn’t where we need him to be entirely, I am really heartened by the difference between tonight and some of his other recent outings. Tonight he at least seemed to be pitching with more confidence, even when he got into jams. I think for someone like AJ that is huge. Where some of our other pitchers might be upset with an outing like tonight’s, I think that AJ will feel really good about it and use it to build on.
Time will tell…
I still don’t have any interest in seeing this dude in the playoffs………….but the Yankees will say they see encouraging signs and he’ll get a start.
Think what Felix’s numbers would look like if he got to pitch against the Mariners 3 or 4 times a year.
CC should win the Cy Young because he is the most dominant pitcher in the league with the most wins playing for a team that is in the tightest divisional race and in the biggest media pressure cooker in the country. Felix pitches in anonymity in low pressure games for a cellar team and still has only managed to win half of his decisions. There’s my case.
Hernandez doesn’t particularly benefit from pitching in the West, as his numbers against the Angels/Rangers are average.
Hernandez has career ERAs under 3 against every team in the East except Toronto. His road ERA in the East is under 3 in every ballpark except Tropicana.
Also, Hernandez doesn’t get to pitch against the pathetic Mariners lineup. Conversely, CC benefits from not having to face the Yankees lineup.
The guy has to win out, though, to get serious consideration for the CY Young. You can’t give it to a guy with 13 or 14 wins.
Baltimore is 13th in the AL in scoring.
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But they are first in the heart of showalter
trisha – true pinstriped blue September 11th, 2010 at 10:30 pm
“LOL!”
I’m always impressed by anyone who uses “LOL”
YAWN!
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Makes you wonder how meaningless and boring somebody’s life has to be to count another person’s posts, doesn’t it?
“In fact, CC should be considered for MVP as well as the Cy”
I’d actually give him an MVP vote, before I’d give him a Cy vote. Cy Young is supposed to be for the best pitcher. Sabathia isn’t that guy. MVP is supposed to be for player most valuable to his team, and it could very easily be argued that Sabathia is that guy. Consider the 5+ ERA’s put up by Burnett and Vazquez (and Hughes for the past 4 months) and Pettitte’s injury, and it’s not hard to appreciate just how significant Sabathia has been to this team. He’s been a rock.
Think what Felix’s numbers would look like if he got to pitch against the Mariners 3 or 4 times a year.
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That idea balances out the fact he pitches his home games in seattle, where power is non existent. one of the larger parks in baseball.
CC’s road ERA is almost 4. His home ERA is 2.5
He has no problem pitching in a HR park… he’s only given up 8 HRs in 105 home innings.
Occasional Poster September 11th, 2010 at 10:29 pm
LOL!
354 comments; 54 by Trisha.
The rain delay is more interesting.
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mick September 11th, 2010 at 10:34 pm
rah rah sis boom bah!
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A parallel there? Why are you all excited Mick, you get a new set of hides?
Felix’s away era is 2.47, he is a dominant strike out ground ball pitcher.
mel, I understand exactly what you are saying and agree with it. Stat heads will pick a certain stat and extrapolate only from that stat. Liberal arts types
will watch games and see teams that keep coming at you and coming at you and call them an offensive juggernaut – which to us, they are. It becomes definitional is all. All depends on your perspective.
I think if CC gets to 22 or so wins with an ERA around 3 then he will win the Cy and will have deserved it. Felix has been the best pitcher in the AL this season by the numbers but I do think the meaning of the games that the stats were achieved in should have some merit. CC could have 10 more wins than Felix….that’s too much for the other statistics to cover for IMO.
Mitre after the rain delay I presume?
to this day im curious why felix chose to sign a 5 year deal with the mariners.
“Makes you wonder how meaningless and boring somebody’s life has to be to count another person’s posts, doesn’t it?”
Absolutely does.
trish, didnt you go back an count my posts earlier?
I presumed wrong. It’s Gaudin.
if only there was technology, which could count all the instances of something on a webpage in seconds… oh there is.
13-12 or 12-12 is not acceptable for a Cy winning pitcher. I even believe it was a stretch for Grienke to get it at 16-12 for KC although last year there was no clear cut winner. This year, no one has come close to having the type of season CC does. There is just bias against him because everyone thinks the Yankees offense is so good ( they must not read this blog).
ac1 September 11th, 2010 at 10:41 pm
to this day im curious why felix chose to sign a 5 year deal with the mariners.
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Security. He got offered a very large, guaranteed paycheck that set him up for life. As a pitcher your career can end the next day in one shoulder tear. I would have taken the money too.
I hate rain delays…
By Trisha’s definition the following teams are juggernauts: Tigers, White Sox, Rangers, Jays, Twins, Angels.
So what would that make the Yankees and then the Rays and Red Sox???
Super Juggernauts?
“Baltimore is 13th in the AL in scoring.”
Bill D, more interesting I think would be to find where Baltimore would be in scoring minus playing teams in the AL East, which is the majority of their games. To play the majority of your games against the toughest division in the majors would necessarily skew the stats.
That said, Baltimore can hit the ball and get on base. Offense has never been their problem. I think that’s what mel and I are talking about. Let’s just say we’re looking at “offensive juggernaut” differently from the way some of the others are. It’s all good.
Security. He got offered a very large, guaranteed paycheck that set him up for life. As a pitcher your career can end the next day in one shoulder tear. I would have taken the money too.
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He would have gotten that from NY or Boston.
Why is it not Mitre. Especially given that Gaudin worked last night. Joe I am not understanding you of late.
No other sport can compete with baseball for sportstalk.
I’ve never seen anything like it.
“to this day im curious why felix chose to sign a 5 year deal with the mariners”
Good deal for both sidess. Hernandez had two arb years left heading into this season. He gets some security and the right to test free agency while he’s still under 30.
“trish, didnt you go back an count my posts earlier?”
Did not. Pointed out specific posts that seemed to be in opposition to what you were saying. It had nothing to do with numbers. There could have been 20 or 200 and I would have pointed to them as examples of what we were talking about. It was content driven.
“He would have gotten that from NY or Boston.”
Sure, but not until 2012.
ac1 September 11th, 2010 at 10:49 pm
Security. He got offered a very large, guaranteed paycheck that set him up for life. As a pitcher your career can end the next day in one shoulder tear. I would have taken the money too.
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He would have gotten that from NY or Boston.
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Not until he was released from control of Seattle. I don’t know how many years of arbitration he had left. But basically Seattle got a discount and he got security.
409 posts, I just counted em.
yeah odd that they would hold mitre out. why not use him today, and gaudin tomorrow if moseley had to be taken out early.
Orioles have scored 334 in 84 non AL-east games. Which is 3.9 Runs per game. Which is bad.
JUGGERNAUT!!
Let’s just say we’re looking at “offensive juggernaut” differently from the way some of the others are. It’s all good.
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So you’re willfully misusing a word to incorrectly describe what you’re seeing?
i get it jack and i agree…
Go Yankees
Long day tomorrow, I will have to watch the DVR version in the morning.
Good night all…
Yanks are calling up some help tomorrow, pitching would help.
“I still don’t have any interest in seeing this dude in the playoffs………….but the Yankees will say they see encouraging signs and he’ll get a start.”
Betsy actually it will be very important to see what the Yankees have to say about AJ’s outing since they have the greatest stake in winning in the postseason and they are going to do what is good for the team. It doesn’t matter what you think or what I think or what Michael Kay thinks. I’m always interested in seeing what Joe Girardi has to say and then what action he takes. You see that he has Javy on a short leash.
I do trust them to assess accurately and move from there.
“To play the majority of your games against the toughest division in the majors would necessarily skew the stats”
How come it hasn’t skewed the stats of the Yankees, Red Sox and Rays??
How come it hasn’t skewed the stats of the Yankees, Red Sox and Rays??
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Doesn’t it? They all beat up on each other.
Night Tar.
DVR the postgame too. We’ll get hints about the future from what we hear there.
“Doesn’t it? They all beat up on each other”
My point is that one can’t claim playing in the AL East is the real reason the O’s defense stinks when everyone else who plays in it has no trouble scoring runs.
Nice pitch
Unfortunately, I do not get the post game reports with the MLB package.
I just realized who Jerk reminds me of. It’s Eddie Haskell.
You sure do love all that negative attention, don’t you. Would it kill you to be a positive person for a change? The act, gets old and is juvenile.
Vlad never got the Memo about Gardner’s arm obviously.
Great throw by Gardner but seriously why do Yankee pitchers keep throwing strikes to Vlad…..Cervelli wanted that pitch in the dirt.
Don’t run on GGBG.
I’m positive about a lot of things. Gardner, Swisher, A-rod, the Yankees in the postseason, the yankees right now, Mariano Rivera, David Robertson, Brian Cashman, Granderson, Nick Johnson, etc.
Don’t know what you’re talking about.
Why Gaudin again? Something wrong with Serg?
Great throw by Gardner but seriously why do Yankee pitchers keep throwing strikes to Vlad…..Cervelli wanted that pitch in the dirt.
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Most of the pitchers who have given up hits to Vlad had poor command? Cervelli wanted pitches off the plate and in the dirt and Guadin threw them all over the plate???
its poor execution
“its poor execution”
yes
jack, they’re saying that since Moseley is pitching tomorrow and they are not sure what they are going to get out of him in terms of innings, they’d rather hold Mitre back in case they need him to go longer.
Jerkface, step up to the plate.
Vlad uses Santeria to “guide” those pitches over the heart of the plate.
“Don’t know what you’re talking about.”
You are obviously an intelligent person, so why all the snark all the time? It’s Not necessary
Don’t answer, I am going to bed anyway.
Jerkface, step up to the plate.
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Home run!
All anti jeter people please see Pena. Thanks
You are obviously an intelligent person, so why all the snark all the time? It’s Not necessary
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Hiding a rude, needlessly egocentric, and malodorous personality behind a cheery disposition is much worse.
Ace, You ain’t a kidding. Get the captain back in there tomorrow and let him fight through it.
Granderson should run here. Why do the fast guys never try and steal? Granderson and Gardner just stand on 1st like stautes. Even yesterday when Girardi pinch run with Nunez and Golson they never attempted to steal.
Still playing your Sega huh Face?
Gardner can you please come through here this weekend with the Bat.
Cervelli having very good AB’s tonight….
Oh Boy here comes Ron. He is going to wear out another path tonight.
Again, 2 on and 2 out for Gardner. He can’t catch a break.
This is the 3rd of 100 pitching changes from Washington tonight…
Anybody ate one of those KFC double down things without cardiac incident? They any good?
“My point is that one can’t claim playing in the AL East is the real reason the O’s defense stinks when everyone else who plays in it has no trouble scoring runs.”
The ONLY team in the AL East who has their highest percentage against the AL East teams is the Yankees. All of the others play better ball against one of the other AL divisions. So let’s just put that to rest shall we?
taking out Gardner in the 6th inning for Kearns?? WTF??
Girardi is overmanaging big time
What’s wrong with Gardner is the last 10 times he came up with runners in scoring position
Girardi got lucky pinch hitting with a guy that is ice cold
Girardi playing for the 3 run homer there I guess….don’t really like that move but Gardner has been struggling of late. Come on Swish.
Oh man…
Three more left on base. Anyone surprised?
Anyone?
Didn’t think so.
The ONLY team in the AL East who has their highest percentage against the AL East teams is the Yankees. All of the others play better ball against one of the other AL divisions. So let’s just put that to rest shall we?
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The rays play .600 against the East and the Jays and Red Sox play the same against the east as the other 2 divisions combined.
The ONLY team in the AL East who has their highest percentage against the AL East teams is the Yankees. All of the others play better ball against one of the other AL divisions. So let’s just put that to rest shall we?
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Why are you using statistics, I thought it was all about “one’s perception”
If Swish is 100% that ball goes a lot further than that. Are we sure this game is being played tonight and we aren’t just watching a replay of yesterday’s game? If you told me it was yesterday’s I would believe you. As the offense continues to forget how to get a big hit and continue to leave 2 to 3 guys on base every inning.
And the yankees have a worse record vs the East than other divisions.
“You are obviously an intelligent person,”
“Malodorous personality”? Tar, you want might to reassess your judgement on intelligence.
Dispatching the wah wah wambulance to casa de jerkoff!
Wow, this offense sucks on the road
They need to make better 1st pitches to Cruz. As we have seen he swings early in the count and he is getting pitches right down the middle.
You act like BG is just killing the ball and we needed him to bat in that situation.
Gaudin in? Auto loss
Why was Gaudin even in this game? He pitched last night, and Mitre hasn’t pitched in 4 or 5 days. Mitre is also a sinker baller against a bunch of right handed hitters, and is more reliable in general.
Gaudin stinks tonight. Good job throwing fastballs right down the middle of the plate. Since the offense can’t get a hit with risp this could be the game right here.
What did Gaudin do to deserver a second inning last night? Did I miss something. Are we not using Abie at all?
When was the last time anyone managed a clutch hit on this team? Four times in two nights we’ve had the bases loaded and no one has done a damn thing. Can’t we manage one effing bloop? Another walk off wins for the stinking Rangers beckons.
Two nights in a row he’s gone to Gaudin instead of Mitre. WTF?
If they lose the remaining series to TB, they deserve to lose the div.
Got to play for the dp here. Give them one for 2 outs. THis sucks
why is gaudan in the game? he will not be on the postseason roster.
he sucks and is a mopup guy.
why don’t these astute baseball people comment about it…………….
swisher stinks right now. he needs to sit, no excuse about the damn knee.
aj still sucks
Girardi has completely lost the plot. Gaudin = game over. Goodnight all.
alright that will work. Now induce one.
gardner has played like crap for at least a week.
gaudin in the game in the 6th is a mega head scratcher…………….
no friggin reason at all……….
girardi is a friggin moron…….
gaudin stinks tonight.
clowns he stink every night look at his tats morons…..
This is becoming one poorly managed team. Giradi used to do so well with the pen, but lately he has blown it big time.
Big out by The Boon-er..Now turn 2……Tricia holding her own tonight vs large numbers
Maybe Girardi needs a day off?
Come on Logan , the back up catcher is hitting .225!!!
Jerkface September 11th, 2010 at 11:13 pm
Hiding a rude, needlessly egocentric, and malodorous personality behind a cheery disposition is much worse.
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Jerkface, are you the modern day Howard Hughes? Your new name is Howey, ok sport? LOL
C’mon, double play ball…
Tricia holding her own tonight vs large numbers
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We must be operating on different definitions of holding ones own.
This is a surprising move by Wash. Borbon is speedy and would be tough to double up. Now we can get a groundball off of Jeffy
Here comes the big hit we have been missing. We can watch a playoff team get the big hit in a a tight game. Maybe our players can learn something.
Bad move by Washington, but Boone hasn’t looked good this series anyway
righty up and a righty on deck and he is leaving logan in.
if that is true bad idea……
all this could have been avoided but girardi owes something to the 13th best pitcher on the team gaudan.
unbelievable gaudin in the game… the pen is not burned out moron………
“Why are you using statistics, I thought it was all about “one’s perception”
Only because when someone specifically questions scoring runs it’s necessary to talk about runs rather than perception. Compris?
Actually some of the stat heads are very one dimensional in their use of stats. They like to spit out the most elementary data and use that as their entire argument for life. If you’re (meaning anyone who does it) going to do it, do it right. Go and find out all of the run differentials. Find out the exact numbers of runs scored against the different teams and then add them up. Do the AL East teams have lower runs scored in the AL East despite winning percentages (those who do) because of the pitching in the AL East? Is it possible that teams with losing records against the AL East actually have more runs against the AL East teams but due to the superiority of the AL East in general, they have lower winning percentages? I’m dead on serious about stats. If you’re going to do it, do it right. Don’t come across with sophomoric pap and try to pass it off as meaningful. Maybe that’s why those of us who talk about what we actually see might be more on target than those who are only able to throw out one bottom-line stat and try to sell that as “the answer”.
Anyway I want to do what makes the most sense of all – watch this game. So if people who are tied to one-dimensional stats want to keep the discussion going, have at. Seriously, I’m happy to be in the company of someone like mel.
The pen is on the verge on being burned out!!
Jerkface…Holding her own like in a pack of wolves
Good job Robertson. Here goes this game….
3-0 oh god just pitch to Francoeur
Girardi really seems nervous managing these days. Like he can’t handle the pressure of these close games late in the season and this is how he looked in the post season. It’s like he can’t make a decision about who to pitch and when to take a guy out and what moves to make.
Thanks Pat M.
How do you assess AJ’s outing?
that didn’t seem that hard, did it?
Walk Traneor…then fall behind the awful Jeff Francouer and have to throw him fastballs.
Jeff G.D. Francoeur can do that, but none of our guys can. Just ridiculous.
Oh crap I forgot there was only one out
Yankees really need to kick it up a notch on offense
Manages like his hair is on fire
Trisha,
Thank yoy for your counsel.
Well better than a bases loaded walk. Got an out from the ab.
Yankees need to score some runs that is the bottom line. The offense has been ridiculously bad and needs to do there part in helping to win ballgames. This is stupid where every run given up feels like its the game.
# Captain Clutch September 11th, 2010 at 11:39 pm
Girardi really seems nervous managing these days. Like he can’t handle the pressure of these close games late in the season and this is how he looked in the post season. It’s like he can’t make a decision about who to pitch and when to take a guy out and what moves to make.
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This is the first we’re actually seeing him manage in a pennant race.
Kearns is useless right now. Ice cold at the plate and now might of cost them another 2 runs. What a moron.
Aj pitched average walks two out hits.. He did okay.. Still can’t have confidence in him in a big spot
If Girardi didn’t mess around with Gaudin for the second night in a row, he would not need pitchers performing out of their minds in order to escape jams.
Once again, it is all on the offense. 2 runs, and 9 LOB. Just terrible yet again, and it’s not like the Rangers are throwing lights out pitching at them either.
Robertson looks like Robertson from April and may
They announced that they weren’t using Mitre tonight because they thought they might need him in tomorrow’s outing if Moseley wasn’t able to go long in the game!
That’s for the 20th time that someone has asked why Mitre wasn’t in tonight’s game. You’re welcome.
Girardi not pushing the right buttons lately.
Not using Mitre because Moseley is pitching tomorrow is just as stupid as not using him in this situation to begin with.
The AAA team has been eliminated, call up some pitching with the bullpen short and stop making excuses for your manager’s mistakes.
Wow game saver by Cano
Tricia….. AJ’s effort has better than it has been, but he dodged a few bullets…..All in all consider the opposition and being on the road I view as a step in the right direction
I am glad they will most likely be sending Moseley to the mound so they don’t swept. That should be fun. If the offense just got 1 or 2 big hits they would still have the lead. The offense is dreadful and the back end of the bullpen is going to be on fumes soon. You can’t use them this much as expect them to be great everyday.
GoYanks says:
September 11, 2010 at 11:43 pm
Girardi not pushing the right buttons lately.
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in fairness anytime your bullpen is in the game early things tend to not go well..
Cano, only because you asked.
If the Yankees could actually score any runs. It makes no sense how they can hit so well one week and then nothing at all the next week. I’m dreading my trip to see them tuesday if they’re gonna look like this.
Might help if someone other than CC could last more than five innings but, right now, this is the worst I’ve ever seen the Yankees hit with RISP. We have the bases loaded with two out and it looks as though we’re under pressure rather than the pitcher. Right now, Rays deserve to win the division. They’re younger, more energetic and can hit in the clutch.
Yeah u have to safe mitre, a long man, for tomorrow,,mosley coould last only 3 innings..
This is the first we’re actually seeing him manage in a pennant race.
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Right and I don’t like what I see. He looks like a kid at their first day of kindergarten.
the offense is pathetic on the road, at least they’ve been consistent.
They just can’t hit on the road.
Not fair to ask the pitching/pen to be so fine.
Let Joe manager Cubs next year.
really, it doesn’t matter at all.
During rain delay watched lord of the rings on TNT still awesome
This game is turning out about as bad as it could be. They will likely lose, and Girardi probably thinks that AJ showed enough to to wrongly convince him that he should be in the playoff rotation.
‘manage’
It seems they have been in a perpetual 0-2 count this whole game. Has anyone but Cervelli walked?
I defended Girardi this afternoon, because he has been making decisions in order to get his team ready for October.
However, Chad Gaudin has absolutely no role come October as he will be sitting at home off the roster.
Him pitching that last inning is absurd, then only to end up going to 2 more pitches anyway.
Girardi must have been knocking a few back during the rain delay and got confused who he was sending out there.
Game saver? You think they’re going to score 3 runs and not give up another?
The problem for Girardi: Does the offense come back to life before the BP comes back to earth?
“This is the first we’re actually seeing him manage in a pennant race.”
I’m not being a smart aleck here, but didn’t he manage in a pennant race last season too?
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Pat M, I feel the same way in that is was a step in the right direction for AJ.
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I know the Yanks aren’t doing great things right now but all we need is a bloop and a blast to tie the score. The Yankees are certainly capable of it.
Anyone buying the heat argument as part of why the offense is struggling? They had a really nice home stand, no?
I am surprised Girardi isn’t overmanaging and taking Tex out of the game for a pinch runner that will never attempt to steal.
LGY
Welcome to the dark side.
btw, I disagreed with your earlier post, but you did put the best spin on that side of the argument.
Rosters are expanded. There is no excuse to be using long men in order to rest your bullpen in a game like this.
You burn your bullpen out one night, you call up someone on the 40 man just in case.
I Agree aj is terrible .. But if he does not pitch in the playoffs.. Who takes his spot?? Nova??
Punch Kay’s lights out, please.
This is an older team, they are going to slump. Also these games are painfully slow…
Hopefully rest at the end of the season revitalizes them a little bit.
I thought for a second there we might have had our blast…
You know things aren’t going your way when the ball doesn’t go out of the ballpark.
I don’t buy the heat.. Stop with excuses
“I Agree aj is terrible .. But if he does not pitch in the playoffs.. Who takes his spot?? Nova??”
As long as he keeps pitching this well, yes.
Rich harden is a young has been.. I
This is the first we’re actually seeing him manage in a pennant race.
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Not really. It’s only a pennant race if there is danger of missing the playoffs. I don’t think he even cares about the division.
At least A-Rod got it into a hitter’s count. These guys like Cano and Granderson get up 2-0, and then swing at pitches in the dirt. RED SOX lose. At least we’re getting slowly closer to clinching a playoff spot.
Let me guess LaRussa brings in a lefty here…
Fair enough rich… That’s asking a lot of a young kid.. But they might not have a choice
Did we so quickly forget the dead offense for 3 games at home against the lowly Orioles?
It has nothing to do with where they are playing. The offense is cold as ice.
The pennant is won in the ALCS.
Uh, oh – RISP
Now it’s time for for the batters to get all nervous
Let’s go Berkman!!!
Yanks are due to bust out
Harden no command
“I don’t buy the heat.. Stop with excuses”
I asked a question. I asked if someone considered that a reason. There is a difference between a reason and an excuse. And by the way, I will always look for reasons if they are out there because I know baseball isn’t PacMan where everything it automated. People play the games not robots.
Beantown loses, E# is 13. COMEON BERKMAN!
Does berkman have a yankee homerun? No right
“I don’t think he even cares about the division.”
Not true. He absolutely agreed that HFA is important to the NYYs this year.
It’s deja vu all over again.
Good AB.
Nice pacman reference!!
oh lord not the Grandyman. A grand slam would be grand thought
Girardi better not pull Granderson – at least he won’t GIDP
Thames?
Yankees lot of baserunners
“The offense is cold as ice.”
Hmmm. Not so cold if 18 men were left in scoring position last night. Getting on base is part of offense. Which players were up when there were scoring opportunities? All of them?
It appears they aren’t cold tonight either, certainly not right now. Look at the whole picture.
Save Thames for pena’s spot.. Let grandy hit
Yeah what I think is that by Cano making that play the Yankees only need 2 runs to tie and not 4. I think they can get a couple runs, plus your mentality at the plate is a lot different down 2 runs vs 6. Thats what I think Bruceb
Did Granderson use up his hit of the week yet?
“Nice pacman reference!!”
Thank you!
Have to get at least 1 this inning…preferably more.
Not true. He absolutely agreed that HFA is important to the NYYs this year.
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I post this all the time, but not having home field doesn’t really matter for the yankees. The World Series won’t have HFA for the AL anyways.
In the ALCS , you play 2 home, then 3 away, then 2 at home. The series can be decided before home field advantage even comes into play! In fact, having HFA against the yankees puts a TON of pressure on every other team in baseball to win the first 2 games of either the ALDS or the ALCS, knowing that you will be playing 2 at Yankee Stadium in the ALDS and 3 at Yankee stadium in the ALCS.
The 7 game series are so stupidly lopsided in the middle set that I’d almost prefer the yankees not get HFA.
2 away then 3 in a row at home? With 1 swing game away? Sign me up!
(Really the only reason HFA might be worth it is to pitch Hughes on the road)
Oh, I thought he’d bring in a lefty.
Any way we can get one we will def take it
Blake – they heard you! Ask and ye shall receive!!!
I do rememberr relief pitchers riding in on cars.. But who cares
Love that….now fly ball ties it, base hit takes the lead.
Thanks for the gift. Now can Granderson actually hit a sac fly? That is the big question.
Strop is the same guy who walked Teixeira with the bases loaded to force home a run yesterday. Have to be patient with him, even in hitters’ counts.
Tough 3-1 pitch
Great at bat…
YESSS
Grandyman can
Nice take on that 3-2 slider. Station to station boys….come on Jorge.
HIP HIP
Really good take by Granderson on the 3-2 pitch there, especially considering he just got that pitch over for a strike. A lot of hitters look fastball on 3-2 and swing over the top of a slider like that.
Great at bat
Look ahead.
Joba ever pitch the 8th again?
tough to lay off that one. Ron is tired now Maddux out to talk things over. Grandy great eye. Cervelli keep that streak of getting on base alive.
I’m so very tired of Ron Washington and his staff feeling the need to visit the mound 38 times an inning.
I think they should change the ALCS to
2-2-2-1 format. Game 7 is the away game so the home team gets 4 at home before the away team gets their final home game.
But I think MLB likes the current format because it might push series to game 7 more often or something.
Due to bust out
Im very cool with this. Hip Hip sighting
Not a strike.
This is a big game…a win guarantees starting the Tampa series with at least a half game lead….
NOT A STRIKE
Jorge its gotta get better than last nights ab
I would pinch hit with Thames and not Posada. Posada hasn’t played recently besides yesterday’s pinch hit and he is probably rusty.
Guy has good stuff he is all over the place
Are their kids coming up from Scranton tomorrow?
That pitch to Jorge WAS NOT A STRIKE. DROBERTSON didnt get that call on either of his first two pitches to Francoeur.
Sometimes, I wonder if the HP umpire gets together with the catcher to discuss pitch selection.
THAT WAS A CHEATJOB
Yes first pitch inside
trisha,
The team batting average last night was .255.
Their team OPS in September is .740.
There is being positive and then there is being irrational. The offense has been cold lately.
3-2 slider?
Yeow. This is so cool. This is baseball folks. No matter what happens here.
F’ing A.
last thing you wanted…..ugh.
Well that was clearly going to happen…this team is really the worst sometimes…
I thought it was the NFL. My bad.
Is this one of Core 4?
really, Core 2 is reasonable.
What the crap?
This is not cool. This is painful to watch. The Yankees are brutal. You could have almost put money on someone hitting into a double play at that point. Doesn’t matter who it is. Is it horrible to ask for Girardi to call a team meeting???
EVERY F-ING TIME
Wonderful.
There is not a team in the majors playing worse baseball than the Yankees right not. Not one.
Are you kidding me??? Get the ball in the air, Jorge!!
This team is garbage right now
WHat a god dman joke. They cheated us. Strop didnt throw a single strike in the first 5 pitches. And yet it ends in 2 outs.
Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it. The more and more umpires cheat us and everyone lets them get away with it, it will only get worse and be accepted.
I have never been so irritated with them. What happened to their awesome BA with the bases loaded. Ugh
Pathetic. Just pathetic.
This has been the story of this team all season, and especially so on the road. If they took care of their own business, they wouldn’t have to worry about Tampa.
This rendition hurt my ears…love the gesture thought
Bases loaded yankee kryptonite
Of course Posada would of walked if the ump didn’t give them a gift on the 1st pitch. As I said Posada was the wrong move in that spot. I shouldn’t be surprised that this team failed once again to hit a fly ball.
GoldGlove9486 September 12th, 2010 at 12:06 am
This is not cool. This is painful to watch. The Yankees are brutal. You could have almost put money on someone hitting into a double play at that point. Doesn’t matter who it is. Is it horrible to ask for Girardi to call a team meeting???
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Here’s a solution: If it’s too painful, don’t watch.
Problem solved.
Why did we load the bases. WHY.
Posada is the most absolutely useless player with the bases loaded. You might as well just pull your baserunners off the field and start the next inning.
The Yankee offense is averaging 4.3 runs per game in September.
That translates to 702 runs over a full season.
They are the anti-juggernaut lately.
BJK taking over for SJ44!
And in a situation in which you need to hit the ball in the air, a Yankee hitter once again pulling off a pitch away and hitting a ground ball. No situational hitting from anyone on this team whatsoever, it’s embarrassing.
ChokeXOnXFailure says:
September 12, 2010 at 12:07 am
Wonderful.
There is not a team in the majors playing worse baseball than the Yankees right not. Not one.
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hi we are the pittsburg pirates we can Argue that comment
anti-juggernaut, another way to say cold as ice.
If you bring criticism, bring a solution or analysis.
I think you have to blame Granderson there. A walk in that situation helps Texas more than the Yankees (as was proven) because of the double play. Curtis needs to atleast swing after being up 3-0, will see pitches down the plate. Not good strategy there and it cost them.
Posada got himself out, it had nothing to do with the umpire. He swung at a garbage pitch on 1-1 and got a 3-2 fastball and was completely beaten by it.
“J. Posada really D. Jetered that ball.”
Yeah, why did Posada try to hit the ball into that double play? He should have tried to hit a deep fly ball.
That translates to 702 runs over a full season.
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That sounds like a team that keeps coming at you (atleast 702 times), juggernaut status restored!
Yeah I would have rather seen thames.. Posada hit for cervalli.. Moot point now
MEMO TO JOE GIRARDI: Get Gaudin in the game tomorrow. Let’s see if he can possibly lose 3 games in one series!!!
“I post this all the time, but not having home field doesn’t really matter for the yankees.”
It does this year for the people close to the team. The stated concern is that the last games of the season are on the road and losing HFA would mean turning right around for a tough ALDS road trip.
sweep time tomorrow.
GoldGlove9486 September 12th, 2010 at 12:08 am
BJK taking over for SJ44!
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Just trying to help.
Robertson not sharp.. Hanging breaking balls
Paul oneill is so proud of his trivia question
This is a Texas team without Josh Hamilton and with pretty much no bullpen outside of Feliz.
Texas coming into this series was something like 4-10 in their last 14 games. But of course the Yankees come in here and make them look like a championship caliber team.
There is really not a legitimate excuse you can make for this team, they are playing like garbage and have been doing it for many games now. If they did not win 8 in a row and only went say 6-2 over that same stretch, they wouldn’t even be in first place right now. This has to be one of the streakiest Yankees teams in a long time.
This team is old and lifeless. It’s actually difficult to be this non-clutch. Some kind of shake-up is needed. Twenty more games left for these geriatric failures. Uggh.
This scumpile umpire didnt call one pitch for Robertson to Francoeur and then calls the first pitch in a key bases loaded at bat to Jorge a cheap strike.
The umpire took control of the game right there and then. He did what he had to do, and until somebody else besides me understands this and does something about it, it will continue to happen.
Something needs to be done about these umpires. Even on September 11, they couldnt bother to put aside their bias. They are the true definition of scumpiles. I HATE THESE perverted pigs.
Something has to be done. Something. Anything. Consequences. Something. Anything.
Robertson isn’t a 2 inning pitcher. He shouldn’t be out there for another inning.
7 innings, 11 stranded.
That is TWENTY NINE MEN left on base in two games.
TWENTY NINE, with two ABs left to go.
Inexcusable.
Matt September 12th, 2010 at 12:09 am
Posada got himself out, it had nothing to do with the umpire. He swung at a garbage pitch on 1-1 and got a 3-2 fastball and was completely beaten by it.
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Matt, why was that pitch garbage? I only have gameday, which has it as a borderline strike. Was it too low?
Thome= good year
Jim Thome has more home runs than Alex Rodriguez this season. HOW is this team in first?
Having HFA means less to the Yankees than having a fair umpiring crew – most notably, a fair HP Umpire.
Unfortunately, we AINT ever gettin’ a fair HP umpire. IF they couldnt do it on September 11, then they aint doin’ it ever.
That is 100% true.
Cr I think you should go to Texas and solve this problem and Yankee bias..
Geno rocking the ball cap tonight
What do you think Choctaw casino is like? Lets try to stay a little positive
Posada got beat on a 97 mph fastball, its not like it was a BP pitch
GoldGlove9486 September 12th, 2010 at 12:13 am
Jim Thome has more home runs than Alex Rodriguez this season. HOW is this team in first?
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What does that have to do with anything?
Needed to bring Mirandi up earlier. They are lagging an extra bat off the bench, and he is the only one who could provide it. The kids they brought up earlier from AAA can’t hit and it limits their pinch hitting ability with the expanded rosters. Though the farm systems are good, their isn’t anybody that can play in the majors for a couple of years.
“There is being positive and then there is being irrational. The offense has been cold lately.”
Hello? 18 men on base is not a cold offense. Not bringing them in is another matter. And it isn’t a matter of being positive, it’s a matter of being factual.
And while we’re at it, I’m also tired of posters who talk about winning teams and losing teams and who we should be winning against. How about this? There are teams who have played both above and below 500 ball. If you play against them when they are below 500 you’ve played against a losing team. If you’ve played against them when they are over 500 you’ve played against a winning team. So let’s start talking about accuracy and giving real team records when we speak of winning and losing teams. There’s a lot of cliches thrown out here by people who like to quote stats but they truly don’t take the time to be totally accurate.
If you’re going to do it, do it right. Be totally accurate. Go through the entire drill. Or don’t do it at all. Because I don’t buy half-way arguments in the name of stats telling the story.
GoldGlove9486 says:
September 12, 2010 at 12:13 am
Jim Thome has more home runs than Alex Rodriguez this season. HOW is this team in first?
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I think they are in first because they have the most wins
Blame Granderson for putting Posada in the situation, not Posada.
That’s what you can do when you get ahead….even with good hitters.
Where was that pitch????????????????????????????????????????????????????/
Of all of the outfielders that could become available over the coming winter, one player that I would target is David Murphy. Outstanding arm, very good defense, power and speed.
Trish there is no Clutch hitting right now… Leaving men on base is a killer.. It kills teams and loses games
Mr. Sandman42 September 12th, 2010 at 12:14 am
Blame Granderson for putting Posada in the situation, not Posada.
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This is just silly.
You have to realize BJK that the outline you see on Gameday is not the strike zone, but the borderline strike zone. Notice that it is a few inches wide, it has a bit of thickness to indicate the fact that pitches in that area are often called strikes but are not technically in the zone.
The dimensions of home plate are actually located on the inner border of that fuzzy area you see. So the pitch that Posada swung at, which is in the bottom area of the blurry part, is actually 2 or 3 inches below his knees, and he was way out in front because it was a changeup as well. It was the kind of pitch he could have just as easily rolled over on and hit into a DP anyway.
“Blame Granderson for putting Posada in the situation, not Posada.”
Sarcasm presumed.
# GreenBeret7 September 12th, 2010 at 12:16 am
Of all of the outfielders that could become available over the coming winter, one player that I would target is David Murphy. Outstanding arm, very good defense, power and speed.
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Carl Crawford?
Please tell me how that pitch to Kinsler isn’t a strike but the 1st pitch to Posada was. This umpiring crew is so one sided it’s not even funny.
ugh
Mr. Sandman42 says:
September 12, 2010 at 12:14 am
Blame Granderson for putting Posada in the situation, not Posada.
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I don’t understand this post
I didnt know this, the HP umpire Ted Red Sox Barrett.
It’s awfully coincidental that every umpire in baseball has the middle name of Red Sox.
So Granderson should have swung at balls so that Posada wouldn’t hit into a double play?…Granderson had a good AB and did his job by getting on base.
Where was that pitch?????????????
That was strike 3…plain and simple…I am even on board with that one…
Where was that pitch??????????????????????
Somehow working the red sox into this game.. A bizarre red sox obsession
please, this game was not decided by the umps
It’s not silly. Have guys on 2nd and 3rd with 1 out and you are up 3-0. You swing to get the run in. Granderson didn’t lift the bat off his shoulder. Walking there only helps Texas set up the DP (which I thought they would intentionally) and look what happened. Strategically you need to atleast swing there and hope you drive in the run.
trisha,
What are you even talking about?
I just posted the Yankee offense is averaging 4.3 runs per game in September.
I believe in this team. I believe they will turn it around. But right now the offense is cold. There is no way you can spin how they have performed offensively in September into a positive light.
It is just what has happened.
final score is 5-3 or 6-3.
“There is being positive and then there is being irrational. The offense has been cold lately.”
Hello? 18 men on base is not a cold offense. Not bringing them in is another matter. And it isn’t a matter of being positive, it’s a matter of being factual.
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Offense is not how many men you put on base, it’s how many you score. There is absolutely no logical argument that states, “They have left 30 men on base the last 2 days, the offense is doing just fine”. None.
Im so angry!!! On a day in which our country should come together as one and unite – and not hold biases – the umpires COULDNT DO IT! They cheated us! THey didnt care about this country, about fairness, about baseball, about being human, they only cared about their anti-Yankee bias. THATS IT
Reallily extending Robertson here
Walking helps more when you move runners up a base, not let the other team set up a double play they wouldn’t otherwise have.
They were likely being careful with Granderson with Pena on deck and a base open…..swinging at balls would have just helped him get himself out..
New York wins this game if Robertson can get the final out here. book it
OH, Ted Red Sox Barrett
Oh wont you try to be fair
Oh Ted Red Sox Barrett
You have me in despair
Granderson had a great at bat
Robertson gets screwed on 2 pitches to Kinsler. If Girardi was as fiery as we heard he would of got thrown out of yesterday’s game and at least said something to the ump in this one. Instead he says nothing and the Yanks get cheated from this umpire crew.
so Girardi is overmanaging all night
now that its obvious Robertson is gassed
he leaves him in
Matt September 12th, 2010 at 12:16 am
You have to realize BJK that the outline you see on Gameday is not the strike zone, but the borderline strike zone. Notice that it is a few inches wide, it has a bit of thickness to indicate the fact that pitches in that area are often called strikes but are not technically in the zone.
The dimensions of home plate are actually located on the inner border of that fuzzy area you see. So the pitch that Posada swung at, which is in the bottom area of the blurry part, is actually 2 or 3 inches below his knees, and he was way out in front because it was a changeup as well. It was the kind of pitch he could have just as easily rolled over on and hit into a DP anyway.
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I know Gameday isn’t totally accurate, that’s why I asked what you saw. It didn’t seem like an awful pitch to swing at on the cpu.
Robertson missed his location again…have no idea why Girardi stuck with him that long. Was playing with fire the whole inning.
wow, a team that can get hits with RISP…
The inconsistent lineups are going to keep causing this.
Some players are too old to play every day then can’t stay sharp when needed in a crucial at bat.
Then the ineffective players get days off due to ineffectiveness leading to subs to come in and asked to do the job of a regular.
The roster is a revolving door of players who don’t know where they fit or what their roles are.
Girardi, age and injuries have created a monster of a lineup that has no cohesion to it.
For some reason, this season is becoming the poster child for throwing sentimentality out the window and getting younger players who you can run out there day in day out.
That said, it looks bad right now, but that still can change if the banged up vets come around.
Right now though, it feels like an avalanche of suck surrounding some of the great players on this team and the avalanche keeps feeling like it’s getting bigger and bigger.
Jeter’s ineffectiveness, Posada’s penchant for injury
Congratulations Ted Red Sox Barrett. You gave them another run. Must feel proud of yourself.
Ted Red Sox Barrett
OH wont you play nice
Ted Red Sox Barrett
You screwed us not twice, but thrice!
Trouble now. Just way too many blown opportunities offensively again tonight. Just sitting ducks to get beat.
The ump comes back to bite the Yanks again. They should just pack up their things and get ready for tomorrow.
If he gets out and scores the run, that’s all that matters. Need to give yourself chances to score on plays that on avg score runs (sac flies), not hope that you load the bases and the other team throws a wild pitch like they scored the 3rd run.
if the score stays the same chad girardi’s bi-ch will be 0 and 5 on the year. with terrible walk rates a almost 6 era. someone explain to me why he was pitching? now they warm up abeledejo when they could have piched him earlier in a less stressful situation.
michael kay adds nothing to the telecast. he knows nothing and never questions the manger, the umps, nothing.. he goes base on history(ie jeter and never ponders maybe jeter is friggin old).
this stretch is the most frustrating of the season with many many runners left on base.
aj sucks and so does gaudin…then again michael kay still insists that aj is there 3rd starter. if he is there 3rd starter they are toast……………………
GoldGlove9486 September 12th, 2010 at 12:10 am
MEMO TO JOE GIRARDI: Get Gaudin in the game tomorrow. Let?s see if he can possibly lose 3 games in one series!!!
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YankFanCA September 12th, 2010 at 12:12 am
This team is old and lifeless. It?s actually difficult to be this non-clutch. Some kind of shake-up is needed. Twenty more games left for these geriatric failures. Uggh.
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Geriatric failure huh? I think the answer is in the author.
Game over. Girardi giving away any chance of winning the game there.
Even if Granderson walking did decrease their chances of scoring a run in that inning, blaming Granderson for Posada’s inability to hit the ball in the air is just plain stupid. Granderson had a very good at bat and laid off a tough 3-2 slider to draw that walk.
What was he going to do? Swing at a 3-2 slider in the dirt to not walk? Use your heads.
And why is Girardi leaving Robertson in? He definitely has to be fatigued of what do you expect when you leave fatigued pitchers in to pitch in a close game?
But what is he supposed to do when his whole bullpen pretty much had to pitch yesterday and they did not call up any pitchers to help him out? Still, you have to trust SOMEONE, bring in Albaladejo or Mitre and worry about the other moves tomorrow.
The way Girardi is managing really makes you wonder whether he thinks HFA matters much for this team. He can say it all he wants, but his moves on the field belie his words.
Well that is what happens when you have starters that can’t go deep into games. Have to use these guys too damn much.
Batter too late. Texas was all over Robertson during his outing. Even the outs were loud.
Seems to be Girardi’s calling card the past week.
Ted Red Sox Barrett
Have you ever heard of right
Ted Red Sox Barrett
You steal away all our might
The offense and Joe G are definitely not at their best of late.
now the moron manager will bring in abeledajo. verse no stress in the 5th..
he is friggin clueles. just as clueless as michael moron kay………………
maybe they can bring gaudin in again…………….he most have photos of girardi doing something bad……..
Girardi has been AWFUL for a few weeks now.
this game is over. Good night folks.
This old team is being flat-out schooled. One can only hope at this point that professional embarrassment might somehow motivate these underperformers.
Ted Red Sox Barrett
You’re not worth a hill of spit
Ted Red Sox Barrett
You’re a worthless piece of ….
Don’t hit the first guy out of the shoot tonight Alba
“Trish there is no Clutch hitting right now… Leaving men on base is a killer.. It kills teams and loses games”
Ken I absolutely agree with that. LGY, all I’m saying is that there’s a difference between an offense that is ice cold and an offense that has no clutch hitting. Anyway, I wasn’t talking about you in terms of spouting superficial stats. That whole thing about winning and losing percentages is something that has bugged me for years. Because if you don’t do it right you are not making an honest argument/assessment. About the offense, you know it’s been up and down because we were scoring runs in big bunches in a few of the series and then not at all in other series, yada yada yada. It certainly has been inconsistent, that’s for sure.
I say they throw in the towel here. Maybe I’m irritated because I put off my homework til the last minute and it turned out to be more work than I expected so that’s getting on my nerves and or that this game is just awful. I know I should turn it off but I just can’t. Its like a trainwreck
Sorry for those that think that Albaladejo is a savior, but, he’s not. He’s not worth the 40 man roster spot he takes up.
Ted Red Sox Barrett
OH what I wouldnt give
Ted Red Sox Barrett
To find out where you live
Im off the deep end tonight
this really isn’t a fun team to watch/root for.
The only thing that matters with offense is scoring runs.
If you can’t score runs, like this team hasn’t been able to do in many of these games, it’s tough to win regardless of how good your pitching is.
There are no more moral victories at this point in the season. You have to win games, and the offense is killing them right now. We saw during the 8 game winning streak how big a difference it makes for this team when they consistently score runs. It takes them to a completely other level as a team.
Without their offense, they are barely better than any of the other playoff teams they will face. With it, they are by far the best team in all of baseball.
Not scoring runs is bad no matter how it happens, but when you had as many chances as this team generates and couldn’t get it done, that’s even worse.
Alby, yet another Yankee pitcher who is better than Gaudin.
I would have had Granderson swing at the 3-0 fastball right down the plate everyone knew was coming. Posada should ahve done better too in that situation no doubt, just saying Granderson helped Texas more than he did the Yankees.
They’ve had other chances too and didn’t capitalize. First last night, and now this. I just don’t see how they can expect to win a close game in the playoffs.
Apparently, we have to throw it right down the middle to get a strike.
Ted Red Sox Barrett
You’re a piece of slop
Ted Red Sox Barrett
You helped Pedro Strop
CR9,
Will you give it a rest? We don’t need to read the same damn post from you every 3 seconds.
Really. Take a breath and step away from the keyboard.
You do realize you’re talking to yourself. Get a mirror and do it. It’ll be more fun.
Trisha,
Oh. You went on this whole thing about WP and I thought some wires got crossed there.
“There is absolutely no logical argument that states, “They have left 30 men on base the last 2 days, the offense is doing just fine”. None.”
Right. And I didn’t see anyone here try to make that argument.
A cold offense is one that isn’t hitting. This team is hitting. It’s not bringing runners in. So there is no clutch hitting. It’s okay to acknowledge the difference.
i do not expect much from abeledejo but i know he is better then gaudin that is my point.
if they loss chad the sh-t will be 0 and 5, with terrible numbers.
that is the bottom line……………….
Ted Red Sox Barrett
You make me very sick
Ted Red Sox Barrett
Cheats to compensate for his tiny dictionary
The Yankees might as well bring their gloves with them when they get on base — it’ll save them a trip back to the dugout when the third out is made.
Strop walked Teixeira to force home a run yesterday with the bases loaded. He does not know where the ball is going and it showed last night and in every at bat tonight.
Saying Granderson should have swung at anything close to prevent a DP situation is idiotic, give it a rest. What if he swings at a pitch nowhere close and dribbles it back to the mound or pops out? I’ll take my chances with the bases loaded against a pitcher who has erratic control rather than tell my hitter to swing at garbage pitches and get himself out.
That’s not a strike!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
2 runs feels like 10 right now. Offense has to go to work and see what happens.
“Ted Red Sox Barrett”
Similar to Red Sox McCllend?
Last 4 games the yankees are hitting: .229 .313 .319 .632
Thats cold. Even if they get hits, there aren’t many extra base hits.
cervelli has a higher obp then the great jeter.
i got it lazy guys like michael kay go on history, it is easier. he does not have to read or think.
aj needs to start since they owe him $50 mill or so
ZMAN – yes. Every MLB umpire has the middle name Red Sox. Awfully coincidental
What in the world. Why is Cervelli batting and not Thames??? People think that Girardi is trying to win the division but he lets Cervelli bat in the 8th inning. I think not…
Enawmous pressure on CC Monday
If we don’t win his games, what games will we win with this subpar road offense?
Tonight Joe asked Posada who was cold and hates pinch hitting to come in and get a big hit and he failed.
Last night he expected Jeter who is in the worst slump of his career to get a hit after a sac bunt to win the game and he failed.
These guys are 2 of the main reasons this team’s offense is struggling. Without having our offensive positional advantage at SS and C, we’re a much weaker team.
That’s what we’re seeing.
The lineup is not long without the two of them hitting well.
Trisha,
They aren’t hitting.
They are just walking at a decent clip this month and last night. They didn’t hit well last night, but drew a lot of walks.
Can this guy throw 3 strikes before he throws 4 balls? I’d make sure…need baserunners.
“Trisha,
Oh. You went on this whole thing about WP and I thought some wires got crossed there.”
That was in response to something another poster brought up, not having to do with Yankee offense but having to do with the AL East.
Hey Cervy gets on for like the 8th time straight. And what do you know more chances coming for the Yankees. Someone come up with a clutch hit. Goodness
can someone please assassinate Maddux so he can’t run to the mound 3 times an inning
Ted Red Sox Barrett
You take away my fight
Ted Red Sox Barrett
But I’ll continue this all night
feliz has pitched 3 games in a row. he has never pitched 4 in a row………………………
kearns bothers me also. he is a total hacker. does not seem to think at the plate at all, simply hacks….
Cervelli has had a good AB every time tonight…and he just did again.
Even though he walked it still made no sense.
a two run bomb would be nice…I LIKE HR’s
Like to do it this inning with Neftli in waiting for the 9th.
“Sorry for those that think that Albaladejo is a savior, but, he’s not. He’s not worth the 40 man roster spot he takes up.”
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Why does the best bullpen in baseball need a savior and even if they did what Yankee fan actually views Albaladejo as one?
Seriously, what is the MLB record for LOB over 2 consecutive games?
This is very annoying….
Ice cold Kearns with another dreadful at bat. I am glad he got to waste an at bat in the 8th inning. Thames is still no where to be found.
This coke-head continues with his pitching changes. I wonder if every time he picks up the bullpen phone, he thinks he’s calling his dealer.
As SJ pointed out last night, girardi is really making baffling decisions lately. The team is scuffling, but he is not giving them the best chance to win games. It was understandable earlier in the season, but now it as if he doesn’t realize it’s crutch time. The handling of Gaudin and DRob was ridculous. Ditto his decision with Wood and Joba last night.
There are also so many worthwhile players on the 40 man who are much more valuable than Albaladejo.
Sanchez, Gaudin, Steve Garrison, Reggie Corona, Miranda all so valuable to the Yankees.
Swish sure looks determined. Lets see that determination pay off here.
zman with some more hysteria. huge pressure on CC……..
are you 8 years old… the yanks are in the playoffs woosies….
talk to me about october 7th about pressure…….
Ted Red Sox Barrett
You’re an embarrassment as a human
Ted Red Sox Barrett
While I sit here a fumin’
CR9 September 12th, 2010 at 12:32 am
Ted Red Sox Barrett
You take away my fight
Ted Red Sox Barrett
But I’ll continue this all night
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I know you’ve posted before that you’re getting help. Perhaps you should seek alternative counsel.
Girardi never should of pinch hit for Gardner. Gardner hasn’t been getting big hits but I would rather see him at the plate than ice cold dreadful Kearns. When Kearns isn’t hot he swings threw every pitch and swings out of his shoes.
YankFanCA September 12th, 2010 at 12:33 am
Seriously, what is the MLB record for LOB over 2 consecutive games?
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Look it up pal.
There you go, Swish.
Prediction: we will load the bases.
BJK
My psychiatrist encouraged me to do this. To get my anger out constructively while not using profanities or offending anyone else.
This is the last chance to dance for the Bombers tonight. Make it pay off boys
“Trisha,
They aren’t hitting.
They are just walking at a decent clip this month and last night. They didn’t hit well last night, but drew a lot of walks.”
That’s fair then. People kept talking about all of the men left on base but I didn’t realize that the majority came from walks. (playing devil’s advocate can you fault men for walking but not hitting? Wouldn’t it mean that they were being thrown lots of balls and nothing to really hit at? Anyway, if they aren’t hitting and have had good opportunities, then your assessment is a fair one.)
Okay LGY, I trust you to take this home with GB and Pat M and TR10 and the other positive members of this here forum. Here’s hoping the Yanks come away with the win. I have faith that they will…
Night all. Taking this offline. I expect cheers from the disgruntled.
Here comes the scary spot for the offense….
Texas has been dancing around land mines for two nights now. Cmon
What happens when The Yanks win this game tonight ???? All the idiots will look like, well idiots…..And there’s many here tonight
Ted Red Sox Barrett
You tried to steal away this game
Ted Red Sox Barrett
You’re a fraud and a shame
CR9 September 12th, 2010 at 12:38 am
BJK
My psychiatrist encouraged me to do this. To get my anger out constructively while not using profanities or offending anyone else.
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Apparently your psychiatrist doesn’t have the pleasure of reading your posts.
Did Girardi say pre-game that he is planning on “resting” A-Rod tomorrow.
let me guess….another pitching change.
*You’re a fraud without shame*
Okay. Lets see if we can not hit a double play with the bases loaded. Please.
Let’s score like rock stars.
Ha, you seriously can’t make this stuff up. What will it be this time boys. Bases juiced again!!
This is ridiculous – does the pitching coach really need to come out every batter. I hate Texas
Come on Arod….lets finally break through here. Been knocking on the door all night and all last night.
A-ROD, please right the ship!
This series has been the biggest joke. Let’s see how Arod ends this one.
Time to break this bullish-t open.
I would pay money for an ignore function in this forum. You hear that Journal News? No one buys your paper anymore. At least let me buy an ignore button.
There you go Trisha
Clutchest. Player. Ever.
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
About time.
YESSSSSSS
A-god.
well, that hit was clutch
If Joba pitches the 8th inning, so help me Christ…
Go Arod!!! Can it be a hit??!?!
What happens when The Yanks win this game tonight ???? All the idiots will look like, well idiots…..And there’s many here tonight
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I was going to post ‘What happens if they don’t win’? But A-rod is awesome so whatever. I think both stances are just as stupid. The games not over till its over.
Clutch Rod Strikes again! Curious move there after changing pitches 500 times….he leaves a struggling lefty in there to face Alex…Thanks Ron Washington.
YES A-ROD!!!
Finally someone got a clutch hit!
This team is better without A-Rod, right?
Ted Red Sox Barrett
Although you’re an ass
Ted Red Sox Barrett
You finally showed some class
SAFE!!!!!
YEAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ALEX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Take that Ted Red Sox Barrett!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you
Nice hit, 6 more outs
Excellent. No please, please, do not bring in joba.
Teixeira isn’t a fast runner, but, he is one of the smartest base runners around. Mattingly was like that.
Great slide by Tex. Thought he was going to be out.
So help me God if I see Joba warming up.
Holy Crap. I did not see that coming. Let’s see if we can hold on to it. Great situational hitting from Arod and a great slide by Tex.
Wood better be warming up and not Joba meatballs. If Girardi messes this up then he is a real moron.
Girardi and Washington must have went out for drinks last night and were sharing managerial tips.
Not the finest hour for these two this series.
That’s more like it!!!!
I thought the Yankees would lose tonight because of the Gaudin effect.
I may well be wrong. Hot damn.
The one time Ron should’ve went to the pen for a righty to face Alex he didn’t. What a knucklehead. Him and Girardi couldn’t manage there way out of a paper bag in this series.
Woooohooo!!! I went from angry to giddy in a mere moment!
Ted Red Sox Barrett
This is a game we should win
Ted Red Sox Barrett
But your employment is a sin
“Teixeira isn’t a fast runner, but, he is one of the smartest base runners around. Mattingly was like that.”
Yea he really is…Alex is a great baserunner as well and never really gets much credit for that part of his game.
Joba can’t pitch the 8th. Not real comfortable with Woods in that role either. Sure wish Hughes had another inning in him!!!
Tonight’s magic number is 131 . . . The combined IQ of Girardi and Washington.
Saying “I told you so” and all that other nonsense is just pointless. You could say every night “well if they comeback I told you so…” and be wrong 70% of the time, which is pretty much what you guys do so I don’t think you have the right to call out people when it does happen to work.
The odds were against them, but fortunately they took advantage of a big chance there that Texas handed them by once again not throwing strikes out of the pen.
Joba is going to be warming up because Joe (can’t get to Chicago fast enough) Girardi trusts him (or for some reason WANTS him) to be the EIG over Wood or anyone else.
A hit here by Cano would be real big
“Alex is a great baserunner as well and never really gets much credit for that part of his game”
Alex gets very little credit for anything when viewed in terms of how good he really is.
Finally…
Cano is looking lost up there. He needs to work on that the final month.
It’s baffling that with all of Washington’s mixing and matching, he left in a lefty to face A-Rod with a hard throwing righty in Ogando warming up in the pen. Fortunately he helped speed up the game for us and didn’t make the move.
Make room on the Go Yankees bandwagon Tricia, here they come to jump on board…..Jerkface, get a clue just once tonight would be nice
Finally- a big hit w/ RISP! Yeah Alex!
I agree with Rich – the Yankees are going to see AJ has being “improved” and he’s going to start in the post-season. Then again, I firmly believe he’d start in the post-season no matter what. Therefore, it comes down to Phil or Nova.
Come on Joe your wife and Wood’s wife are friends. Let Kerry have the 8th tonight. PLEASE
What in the world is Washington thinking? Even Granderson hits lefties better than Berkman.
If Joba pitches the 8th inning tonight, Girardi needs to be fired on the spot.
Also, he better not rest Arod. He sat him the other day and they had a day off on Thursday.
He doesn’t need another day off. He needs to be in the lineup everyday.
The moronic decisions from Girardi really have to end.
It’s tough enough for this team to win games lately. It’s impossible if the manager continues to be an impediment.
Ted Red Sox Barrett
I’ll take it as a sign
Ted Red Sox Barrett
That you’re no better than a swine
Rich,
Mark my words. With Jeter and Posada struggling with injury & ineffectiveness, Yankee fans are going to embrace Arod like they never have before.
Cano has to get back to swinging at strikes. I wonder if it’s fatigue or what caused him to get back to swinging at anything at the plate.
.Jerkface, get a clue just once tonight would be nice
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I guess you haven’t been paying attention? I’ve been clued up all night. I’m never a doomsday yankee poster. And I think the doomsdayers and the ‘told ya so’ crowd is equally obnoxious.
SJ44 is alive. I like it.
blake September 12th, 2010 at 12:44 am
“Teixeira isn’t a fast runner, but, he is one of the smartest base runners around. Mattingly was like that.”
Yea he really is…Alex is a great baserunner as well and never really gets much credit for that part of his game.
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Rodriguez, like Jeter and others have speed but, hardly ever make mistakes on the bases and don’t steal many useless/unnecessary bases. I was mainly referring to guys that were smart on the bases, but, not fast. Bernie Williams had great speed but wasn’t a real good base runner. He just never had that first step base stealing speed, either.
yanks have warning track power this series
How many balls have the Yankees hit to the track in this series so far? They have just missed several HR’s…
Alex will never be embrace and frankly I don’t want hypocritical Yankee fans to embrace him, the same clowns that booed him in ST and on opening day. Alex doesn’t care about fan adulation anymore, so whether they embrace him or not is no big deal anymore.
Just missed that one. A lot of credit to Pat M. for sticking by Granderson and never quitting on him. One of the very few on here.
Centerfield at this park is where balls go to die.
Warning Track power is not very encouraging…………..they only way they can win is via the HR, so they’d better start finding it.
Here we go again…..
I have a feeling that Thames is hurt and we will find that out after the game. If not it doesn’t make sense why we haven’t seen him pinch hit yet.
Wait a minute…Mo pitched 2 innings last night.
Ted Red Sox Barrett
You’ve caused pain in my gut
Ted Red Sox Barrett
And that’s why Im such a nut
Thank you Joe thank you
Here comes a typical Kerry Wood inning. I hope.
Can we get 1 DP?
I guess nothing will be easy for this team tonight. Francoeur who can’t hit at all with a hit.
In Seattle watching the game.
If any of you are ever in Seatte, go to Metropolitan Grill if you like a great steak.
They also have the Baseball Package at the bar and the late night bartender is a Yankee fan.
Wait a minute. Is Matt The Mook really blasting somebody for doing the “I told you so” moment? That’s his specialty.
CR9.
CUT IT OUT!!!!
Both managers have made some curious moves in this series.
C’mon Kerry, get the last out.
I would walk Vlad and be careful to Cruz.
Ted Red Sox Barrett
You’re worthy of disgust
Ted Red Sox Barrett
You’re not fair and just
Swish what was that? Cmon Wood one more here.
Please don’t let Murphy beat them again
Where was the 0-1 pitch…
That was a strike
Ted Red Sox Barrett…..There you go again……Ted Red Sox Barrett….Cheating our bullpen
I think even if they lose this one tonight I won’t be too upset. That piece of clutch hitting made my night.
Wood is good.
YEAH! WOOD! BOOM! HUGE INNING!
Wood phenomal again.
Thanks again Ron Washington for giving up an out with the sac bunt and playing to tie the game.
Is Rivera available tonight?
Kerry effin wood. The difference in the pen
Please get alteast 1 insurance run, tia
Phenomenal, that is.
Ted Red Sox Barrett…….When the Yankees become your friend…..Ted Red Sox Barrett….Then this will end
Yankees have Woood!
Schwinnng!
This guy was picked up for peanuts and he’s been a real difference maker in the pen……………good guy, good pitcher. Thank you for saving us from Joba, Kerry!
Yanks will score 3 in the top of the ninth.
CR9,
I just want to let you know that you, singlehandedly, are ruining mine and others enjoyment of the game and this blog tonight on such a huge level.
If you believe in karma and “what goes around comes around” the negativity you are spreading will come back to you in spades.
Take a freaking break for your own health, safety and sanity.
You are, by far, the most annoying poster in here who adds nothing to this forum other than stress and for that you should be truly ashamed of yourself.
Why don’t you try harder to be better than this? Life is short. You’re wasting it.
Mo gets the meat of the order in the 9th. After pitching 2 innings yesterday hopefully he is sharp tonight. Of course an insurance run wouldn’t hurt but with this offense I am not expecting it.
Love the Wood is doing so well. He’s had a rough career. Good for him.
Gotta hope for a couple of runs in the top of the 9th. That’s going to be a nasty 3 hitters to face, regardless that it’s The Legend.
So much for Joe wanting Joba to be the 8th inning guy and trusting him so much… eh?
Joe isin’t nearly as stupid as people think he is… he made a mistake yesterday and he learned from it.
# Wang IS Taiwan September 12th, 2010 at 12:58 am
Love the Wood is doing so well. He’s had a rough career. Good for him.
I wouldn’t say rough. Mark Prior on the other hand…
Must. Steal. Second.
Would love some insurance…..even for Mo.
I like Nunez…always seems to make something happen when he gets in there.
So they waste Mariano for 2 extra innings yesterday and now he has to come out tonight. I have all the faith in the world in Mariano. I just think that wasting him last night might come back to haunt them tonight.
been to metropolitan grill good place. seattle is a nice town.
a shortstop for the yanks who got a hit……….still did not hit it out of the infield but i will take it.
cervelli should bunt…
Hope MO has his good stuff and isin’t too tired…. meat of the Texas order coming up.
YankFanCA September 12th, 2010 at 12:44 am
Tonight?s magic number is 131 . . . The combined IQ of Girardi and Washington.
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Block head.
Ted Red Sox Barrett…….Im sorry Im such a stress…….Ted Red Sox Barrett….But I digress
Sorry G Love, just finding a way to get my anger out. I’ll give it a rest, for you.
Great jump.
I have a feeling Mo is going to be dominant tonight……………
Nice, Nunez..
I like this Nunez kid.
Nice steal Nunez!
Great job Nunez…..now get him to 3rd.
It’s kind of funny that Nunez and Pena take off almost immediately, but Gardner sits there for pitch after pitch.
Nunez always seems to find a way to get on base when he plays. Girardi should play him over Pena but I guess he wants Pena’s defense over Nunez’s. The Yanks have to score this run.
Bunting on a 3-0 sucks.
I don’t understand bunting 3-0 there at all.
What the…
Cervelli is far and away the best bunter the Yankees have…I think I would have taken a strike there first though.
This series is a mess
Cervelli has had some good games as of late. Nicely executed there again.
What is Girardi doing?
Wow. That decision to bunt was crazier than any of my posts tonight. And that’s tough to do.
Let’s see if that’s better than a walk.
I like pinch hitting Thames here because he has a good chance of hitting a fly ball at least and Kearns is struggling
Rivera only threw 24 pitches last night.
Sometimes he throws 19 or 20 pitches in one inning to get a save, and people don’t start worrying about him then.
He had a very easy two innings last night. It’s more about pitches than innings, that’s why an innings limit for Hughes doesn’t make much sense because every inning is different in terms of stress and work.
G. Love — you’re too kind. CR9 is pure garbage . . . Psychotic, misanthropic, and idiotic.
That made absolutely no sense bunting 3-0. Girardi making some weird moves…
Cervelli may have done that on his own.
Beyond asinine. Must. stop. self. from hating Joe.
Wasn’t Randy I ( The Original Tin Cup ) say he was coming bacj here once Labor Day was over ????
I don’t understand bunting 3-0 either but at least the pitch he bunted was a strike….so he would have been bunting 3-1 if he took it anyway.
Got the fly ball….just not deep enough.
Another decision that’s baffling.
Bunting on a 3-0 pitch?
Without question, the worst week on the bench in Girardi’s Yankee career.
These are big runs out there night after night, eventually they have to shorten their swings and get them home.
Matt, don’t forget that Mo had to warm up twice. No, the number of pitches isn’t a concern. It’s sitting down and then having to get warm again that is sometimes a cause for worry.
Me, I’m not really worried about it. But I’ll be really surprised if Mo is available at all tomorrow.
Unbelievably stupid. Another failure to get a runner from 3rd with 1 out.
Finding new ways not to score on a nightly basis.
Runners at 3rd with less than 2 outs just die for New York as of late. Pretty hard to figure. Well on comes Sandman then. Need this one dearly. Cmon MO
Maybe Cervelli wanted to throw off the defense and get an infield single?
I doubt the was called from the bench. You do that on the 1st pitch, not 3-0.
“Cervelli may have done that on his own.”
If I had to guess, I’d say he did.
Yanks fail once again. Is anyone really surprised??!?! I hope not scoring that runner doesn’t cost them the game in the 9th.
Wow. Another failure with man on third and one out.
more clutch hitting..
this series cannot end fast enough.
The amount of over managing in this series has been pretty remarkable. At least both teams are acting like it’s the playoffs.
These expanded rosters are being used in ways which are changing the nature of the game.
Washington has pushed the game to absurd heights. But Girardi has made some head scratchers as well.
Painful two games.
Let’s hope Mo bounces back from two innings yesterday.
Why was Swisher dogging it down the line? The way that ball was juggled, if he’d been running hard, he’d have had a shot at getting in there and scoring the run. If he’s injured, and can’t run out balls like that, then he shouldn’t be playing.
Rich in NJ September 12th, 2010 at 1:05 am
Cervelli may have done that on his own.
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yeah i was thinking Cervelli did that on his own. It was a strike though but a little weird to see a bunt on 3-0 doubt Girardi called that.
Cervelli with a stupid move there on 3-0, but who knows? He may have laid one down on 3-1 anyhow. Thames didn’t get it done, this time. Let’s hope Mo is his usual self tonight.
Joe choking down the stretch? I find it hard to believe that the Yankees just LOVE Joe. He’s a good manager, but he doesn’t do anything that would inspire love from an organization……………
I’d take a guess and say Cervelli did that on his own.
Oh, and another guy stranded at 3rd with 1 out. Wonderful.
32 guys left on base in the last two games.
This team just can’t hit on the road.
No idea why.
Well, Mo can make Giradi look smart, or dumb ???
That is true, but I can’t think these warmup pitches really take much out of these pitchers. Most of these guys throw warmup pitches with less effort even than when they throw to first, and I don’t think they usually count those throws against his pitch count (even though maybe they should depending on the situation).
Choke-
He’s hurt you idiot.
CR9 – Thank you for giving it a rest. Just talk about the game when you post like you’re at a bar with friends in here. It will help you go a long way.
Can’t be hard on Thames. He’s been a Godsend.
Is it fair to say that Girardi doesn’t manage well under pressure? They won the world series last year even with all the stupid mistakes and weird pitching changes that he made. He has been absolutely brutal this week.
At this rate, the Cubs owners might not even want Girardi!
Cervelli bunted on his own. That was unlikely to be a manager’s call. That looked like a player decision to keep on bunting even after the steal. I don’t think that was Girardi.
Stay away from Vlad here. He should get all cutters off the plate. There is no reaosn to throw him a strike.
Ted Red Sox Barrett….You’re out of your mind….Ted Red Sox Barrett….You’re the worst of your kind
Mariano!
Hard to not be concerned about this offenses health.
Swish and Jeter are key cogs.
Need to get these guys some rest.
Man these white hats look stupid.
White hatted Mo just doesn’t feel right to me.
But it’ll feel better if he gets Vlad here.
Mo pounding with 2 seamers….
Ugh I spoke too soon.
# G. Love September 12th, 2010 at 1:09 am
CR9 – Thank you for giving it a rest. Just talk about the game when you post like you’re at a bar with friends in here. It will help you go a long way.
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One would have to have friends to know what that was like. I’m just sayin’.
Home/road, whatever- the offense is just inconsistent. However, they still have the best record in baseball, so if they are bad, then everyone else stinks.
That was a big run the Yankees didn’t get last inning. It changes the entire complexion of this 9th, and the way Rivera has to pitch to these hitters.
I dont believe this. He just walked him. Negate. Negate. Negate.
D’oh.
I hope that isn’t a sign of fatigue.
CB,
Washington has always been like this. Especially with expanded rosters.
I have no idea what Girardi is doing this week. At least a dozen of the most baffling decisions a manager can make.
Now he’s talking about “resting” Arod tomorrow.
If he does that, it would be mindboggling.
Uh oh
Who would have bet that the pitcher with the best control in baseball would walk Vlad Guerrero.
not good
As much I as I want lineup consistency I agree that Swisher needs to be benched until he can run again. Put Thames out there with Berkman at DH and the lineup will still be long.
Just no dinger.
# TheStraw September 12th, 2010 at 1:09 am
Choke-
He’s hurt you idiot.
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Read the last sentence, cap’n. If he can’t run out balls, he shouldn’t be in. It’s a danger to his health, and it could hurt the team in the long run.
Why was Cervelli sitting so far inside?? Great now a walk. If Mo pitching 2 innings yesterday costs them the game then Girardi is a real idiot.
Can’t walk Vlad with Cruz up. Doesn’t bode well at all.
Choke – LOL! Nobody can watch games with me. They are so SICK and tired of me complaining about my teams being cheated. I cant understand why. I dont think I ever will.
When did Joe say he’s resting Alex? That’s borderline insane – he just had 2 weeks off. These guys are used to playing everyday – what is wrong with Girardi?
SJ-
Washington does make a lot of moves at baseline. He’s turned baseball into the twilight zone.
Can’t rest Alex. He’s one of the few swinging the bat well right now.
If the Yankees could hit a fly ball and get runs like last inning home, Rivera would not have to be so careful with Guerrerro and the inning may end up playing out a little bit differently there.
Mo did a slide step there…
Gotta love Honest abe in the Geico commercial.
Mary: Does this dress make my backside look big?
Abe: Uhhh! Perhaps just a…..(holding fingers about an inch apart)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdy3orO6tQA
It looks like he’s overthrowing.
Swisher’s sore knee is taking an awfully long time to heal………..
Guess I was wrong about Mo, but this is the price Joe pays for going with him for 2 innings last night.
Then don’t use the term “dogging”. After that, I didn’t read the rest of your post.
Not enough gas in the tank for Mo.
Seen this before.
Where was that?
Betsy,
He was talking about either resting Jeter or Arod tonight and then the other one tomorrow night before the game.
We’re assuming he’s planning on resting Arod tomorrow and I wouldn’t be shocked if he followed through on that moronic thought.
Where is the strike zone.
That pitch was right down the middle!! Please tell me somebody else saw that????
Mo looks tired.
“As much I as I want lineup consistency I agree that Swisher needs to be benched until he can run again. ”
Swisher may not be right for a quite some time. Don’t know if they have a choice but to play him injured.
Gotta go upstairs again
These umps are so one sided it’s unreal.
Swisher does not look like he is running that badly when he is in the field tracking a fly ball. Maybe it’s just the explosiveness of getting out of the box that is a problem for him.
GLove, that’s worthy a “Joe Bleeping Girardi”………….Rest Jeter? Fine – give him a few days off. Alex? They have to win these games; Joe is smoking something or drinking something. He’s making my blood boil
Mo doesn’t look good at all. He never should of pitched 2 innings yesterday. Another stupid decision by Girardi.
Why wasnt that inside pitch called a strike.
Not again
This is what we get for not getting the run in last inning. We get what we deserve
Well this isn’t looking good.
Pitching Rivera 2 innings last night in a game they weren’t leading may come back to bite them…
Mo got too preoccupied with the runner stealing there.
Going to take another Houdini act I guess
Once again, if you cannot tack on key insurance runs like last inning ,you deserve to lost games like tonight.
Just embarrassing. I don’t know if Rivera has good enough control tonight to find a way out of this one, but if the Yankees did their jobs and hit a fly ball they would have a cushion to work with.
I won’t even bother being upset if they lose – what’s the point?
Great. So not scoring the runner in the 8th inning will cost the Yanks the game.
Doesn’t look good, but he has gotten out of these before.
It just shouldn’t be such a struggle to win one game against the Rangers.
that thames at bat loops larged
This umpire crew is killing them
And that’s that. Ballgame over.
He’s clearly gassed.
When you can’t hit on the road, you need perfect pitching.
Even Mo isn’t perfect.
The road offense is killing this team.
Goodnight Irene
Not this time, apparently.
Well this one looks to be over.
What the hell is with Arlington? Everything about this place annoys me.
the yankees have compely falling apart.
yanks should forfeit tommorrow, they a bunch of chokers
This is frustrating.
That’s ball game. Using Mo tonight was an absolutely boneheaded move. He was thoroughly ineffective tonight, and we don’t have him tomorrow.
Ya know…screw it. Let Joe go to Chicago. The last week of managing has been absolutely atrocious.
Had to go upstairs on Cruz there.
Just an awfully managed series.
Stupid white hats.
Mo has evolved and now very much relies on that two seamer to righties.
That pitch has just not been there for him tonight as a tool to use.
They have a good road record…………..apparently the offense is not killing them.
Girardi using Mo last night was insane..
This game ain’t goin’ into extra innings.
Well this game is over. Girardi should be fired for pitching Mo 2 innings yesterday in a tied game.
another bad sign if the yanks play texas in the playoffs…they hit rivera very well
This game is still on Girardi in my mind.
Well this one is on the offense again. Don’t blame Mariano entirely.
“yanks should forfeit tommorrow, they a bunch of chokers”
What’s wrong with some of you people? It’s a freakin’ game.
2 absolutely brutal losses
When will you people get it?
This has nothing to do with umpires, the Yankees are playing like garbage night after night and do not deserve to win a single one of these games.
Tons of runners left on base every single game. Rivera is not going to be perfect every single night, you have to give him some runs to work with and if you can’t do that, you deserve this as a team.
All they have had to do every day is hit lazy fly balls and they would win pretty much every single game. Just terrible.
If they lose tonight, it will not be bad luck, it will be bad play. They have been terrible in a lot of games lately, and they are blowing home field advantage by mis managing and poor execution.
If they go into Tampa and play like they have in the last week, who knows if they’ll even be able to win a single game?
Mo probably won’t be available for the next couple of games, including the first game in Tampa
Watch for the squeeze bunt
Ted Barrett screwed Mariano out of strike calls. Mariano Rivera, the greatest reliever to ever live. Ted Barrett screwed him.. Pull your heads out of your ….. and figure out what happened. This wasnt some schmow like Chris Ray that got cheated,
Using Mo for two innings last night is coming back to haunt Girardi tonight.
The Yankees scored 6 runs. More than enough.
Gaudin should have never pitched that 2nd inning. That is what put them in a hole.
Get Mariano out of there and save some bullets.
Winning another road game this year may be a stretch for this team.
The wheels are clearly off this group.
Going to be interesting to see if Joe decides to rest Arod.
If he does, he will go to Tampa on second place.
“Using Mo for two innings last night is coming back to haunt Girardi tonight.”
This is true.
Asd –
We owned Arlington years ago.
It’s just a ballpark, different team.
Robertson looked absolutely done earlier in the game. He was not right.
Mo doesn’t have much crispness here.
This game was lost last night when that incompetent F@#k Stump pitched Mo two innings. This is a disgrace. You can’t get this loser to the Cubs fast enough!!!
why a disgraceful loss
Never thought I’d see that in my life.
Might as well just rest most of the regulars tomorrow in what is essentially an unwinnable game.
Unreal way to lose. .5 game kids
Why not leave wood in for two innings?
That was a pathetic job by Mo. He has now blown 2 games to this decent at best team.
Let’s forfeit all the road games.
rivera looks as psyched out vs the rangers as he was vs boston
So is everyone who said they would win this game an idiot?
Oh well, we got cheated. And Mariano didnt have it. Just a bad day, on the saddest day in the history of America. More important things in life than baseball. Just one game, get over it, get ‘em tomorrow.
Another well-deserved loss. This team has earned them.
Another absolutely BRUTAL loss, and looking at the sweep with Lee going in game 3
Rivera wasn’t sharp….should never have thrown the 2nd inning yesterday in a tie game. Now you have to beat Cliff Lee with Mosely on the hill tomorrow to avoid the sweep. Yanks aren’t making life easy for themselves.
Girardi using Rivera for two innings yesterday was just absurd. Girardi is absolutely having a managing metldown this series.
This is why you don’t pitch Mo for two innings last night in a tie game.
I am really getting to hate Girardi. The man seems brain dead lately.
Oh please, Mo is never pathetic – he’s allowed to have a bad game.
Straw,
He’s cost them games all week.
HBP. Game over and the Yankees might as well get ready to be the WC card team.
That’s where it will end up.
Mo starts the inning with a walk, ends the game with a hit batter, don’t know if I’ve ever seen him do that before
at a moment, I thought I was wrong.
Without swisher’s HR on Wednesday, we’re in a 6 game losing streak of our worst baseball of the season.
The wheels are off.
This team is free falling right now.
It will be very depressing to read this blog any more tonight.
The bottomline is the Yanks still have the best record in the majors.
From tomorrow they will go on a winning steak.
Good night.
well no rivera tommorrow, just forfeit.
yanks are going to get their @>$?$> handed to them tommorrow.
yanks can’t compete
Mo had nothing. Now likely lost for tomorrow.
Terrible pitches to Cruz.
Does everyone realize we take Wild Card we open in Texas??????
Did he actually hit him?
Another crushing loss that didn’t need to happen if the Yankees as a team could do anything right. ANYTHING right.
Two crucial situations late in which a fly ball scores a run, and two failures yet again.
These are the kinds of games that cost you dearly this late in a season. This is not on Rivera, this is on the inability of the offense to get easy runs home.
The Rangers have done nothing impressive in this series. If the Yankees played like a playoff contender and not a 4th place team night after night, they would win these games and win them handily.
Just a terrible job by the Yankees, and against a team that has pretty much tanked their last 2 weeks worth of games as badly as you can do it. They are giving Texas confidence that they may carry over into playoff games against the Yankees, and you just don’t want to let an inexperienced team start to believe in itself like that.
Using Robertson too long changed the entire complexion of this game. After the poor decision to use Gaudin. Joe looks like an idiot the last few weeks. I think Cash needs to have a talk with him.
Girardi is hurting this team right now. Maybe he’s experimenting for the playoffs, but his deployment of his pitchers sucks.
Rconn, so your advocating giving up? Like other times when you’ve called the game over and then the games proved otherwise?
How embarrassing. Celebrating a “walk-off” win on a HBP? Lame.
I’m really beginning to hate the Rangers. Their fans are the most bitter bandwagon fans I’ve seen in a few years.
I blame Arod. He gave Mariano the loss last time they played texas by hitting that home run to tie it up and today he had the go ahead RBI that brought Mariano into the game. If they hadn’t scored, it would all be on Gaudin. Mariano has been beaten twice this season by Texas. Crap.
I never expect they could win WS this year.
Chicago is a lovely town. Joe will love it there.
rivera WAS pathetic tonight. he pitched afraid vs vlad and never recovered
Chambliss — they’ve talked about protecting Wood by not using him for two innings in the past. I agree with it.
But why use Mo for TWO and then again tonight. We gotta protect our prized possession better than that. You could see he was off from the get-go. He’s tired.
Say what you will but Girardi’s bad managing last night is contributing to tonight’s loss. Not using Hughes in the 8th last night and then Mo in the 9th to possibly seal the win. Means Mo had to pitch 2 innings last night (at least in Girardi’s mind). There was also the questionable use of Gaudin in tonight’s game as well.
Tonight Mo over used, didn’t have it. We lose a second game because of Girardi. Sure the offence left a lot of guys on base and meant runs were precious. Girardi though is showing he doesn’t manade well in tight conditions. Now tied in the loss column with TB.
LOLOLOLOLOL WELL PLAYED GUYS
this team will get 3 games into the playoffs before they get to go golfing.
Oh give me a break – Mo was never psyched out against Boston and he sure as hell isn’t psyched out by the Rangers.
Has everyone seen now why Florida fired this incompetent piece of $hit Stump Merrill Girardi.
We won the World Series last year DESPITE him. This is a disgrace. GO TO CHICAGO. YOU SUCK!!!
“rivera looks as psyched out vs the rangers as he was vs boston”
Oh please. Arm chair psychologizing one of the greatest pressure pitchers in the game?
His stuff and command just weren’t there.
He’s 40. How many closers every throw two innings in a game anymore?
He threw 2 yesterday and the manager asks him to throw another inning tonight.
The notion that this is Mo’s fault – never mind that he was “psyched” out is absurd. That’s just garbage.
Jesusdh-
Your comments are idiotic and add absolutely nothing here.
He’s 40 years old and Girardi foolishly used him for two innings yesterday.
Only so many bullets in his arm.
Better hope CC wins Monday or this could be a winless roadtrip.
Robertson has been bad lately – so much for trusting him in a big spot.
This game should have been over long before the 9th. Right now, we SUCK.
# Bring in the Goose September 12th, 2010 at 1:24 am
Mo had nothing. Now likely lost for tomorrow.
Terrible pitches to Cruz.
Does everyone realize we take Wild Card we open in Texas??????
Twins have a better record. We would get the Twins, Rays would get the Rangers.
Who bunts 3-0? What was the purpose of that? It just made no sense.
Sheesh, even SJ is in angst mode, lol.
nice crisp train wreck. great clutch hitting. good bullpen management.
good player moves. what more can you ask for???
what a friggin disgrace…..mo throwing inside ove rand over and over……jeez.
arod the only guy who can get a hit when it matters.
what a horror show….between the game, the decisions, and michael kay and his stupidity i need to throw up………………….
nice nice nice………………..
Whether they play Texas or Minnesota it doesn’t matter.
They can’t win in Texas and they can’t hit Liriano and Pavano.
I wish we could “rest” or bench the manager for a while. He’s looking beat up, too.
HONESTLY – am I the only one who thinks the way we lost tonight is a good thing? We rode and collapsed onto shore a wave of the 2010 yankees momentum. Its ……… i guess bad no matter how u look at it…..
Mo had nothing tonight. I hope Girardi the overmanaging moron is happy with his decision to pitch him 2 innings in a tied game, on the road last night. The team is trying to overcome their managers idiotic decisions but they aren’t able to.
Without Mariano blowing the game tonight the Yankees are in a 1 game win streak.
LOL we’re the wild card………games over; let’s not play them. Holy cow……..
What we all can agree on is that Nelson Cruz is a future Red Sox.
He has the scumpileness and arrogance of a Red Sox. Therefore, he will one day become on of them.
# TheStraw September 12th, 2010 at 1:25 am
Using Robertson too long changed the entire complexion of this game. After the poor decision to use Gaudin. Joe looks like an idiot the last few weeks. I think Cash needs to have a talk with him.
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I don’t think the talk needs to be all that long to say, “Have a nice time managing in your hometown, Joe.”
Mariano didn’t freakin’ blow the game.
OMG, what a bunch of babies here tonight ! Poor pathetic losers ! Grow up, it’s a game being played by a bunch of overpaid men. It’s not life or death !
TODAY’S ANNIVERSARY WAS !!!
Stop with the nonsense. Rivera pitching two innings was not the problem, the one run lead was the problem.
The fact that they did not tack on an insurance run changed the entire way Rivera had to pitch in that inning. He did not have his usual control, but because of the extra run he had to pitch so carefully to these guys that outcomes like this were inevitable.
Guerrerro, Cruz, Kinsler coming up, you have to put that run on the board if you expect to win this game and the Yankees didn’t. They didn’t deserve to win this game and they lost it as they deserved to. It has nothing to do with umpires, but everything to do with the inability of this offense to put crucial runs across home plate in close games.
This Yankees team is very scary come playoff time. You really have no idea which team is going to show up, and if they don’t get HFA who knows if they will even make it past the first round if they go into Minnesota or Texas and have a few games like tonight? It’s not bridge jumping, it’s being realistic. What has this team shown this year to make you think they are anything more than a coin flip against good teams, and especially so on the road?
# SJ44 September 12th, 2010 at 1:19 am
When you can’t hit on the road, you need perfect pitching.
Even Mo isn’t perfect.
The road offense is killing this team.
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Bingo. When you give the pitchers such little margin for error night after night, it is not going to end well.
mo looking psyeched out………..are you on drugs………
mo threw 20 or so pitches yesterday he has pitched in 53 innings this year he has not been overused.
again no excuse for pitching gaudin at anytime in this game bottom line…….
ZERO CLUTCH HITTING AGAIN AND YOU LOSE………
Mo had nothing. The least command I have ever seen from him. Not his fault though.
Well, I was ready for the Yanks to get swept this series…
I love that Girardi is getting so much flak. When your team loads the bases three times in a row with almost nothing to show for it, you get a free pass on that day.
Sticking with Gaudin and Robertson this game killed them. Girardi killed them this game.
rivera struggled vs texas a few weeks ago, too. it’s not just tonight
Please refer to this clown with the correct name. STUMP Girardi. He is an incompetent jackass. http://www.StumpToChicago.com
I don’t buy this hitting on the road v. hitting at home thing.
mariano did blow the game, he imploding .
but it was a fluke, but rivera blew the game
Yeah Matt, Mo has never pitched with a one run lead before.
“Robertson has been bad lately – so much for trusting him in a big spot.”
Nothing to do with trust. His arm isn’t right.
He’s probably fatigued or going through some dead arm.
He’s absolutely not right at this time. His fastball is very flat, lacks life and is down velocity wise.
We scored 6 runs this game?
The Blown save goes to Joe Girardi. That performance reminded me of 2008 games.
Bunting on 3-0! Ridiculous!
This team isn’t nearly as good as last year’s. I hate to say it, but any success in the playoffs is going to surprise me. Time to look reality in the face. Girardi can’t make a good move to save himself right now.
Cliff Lee is hurt so tomorrow isn’t sn automatic loss.
Betsy,
Every facet of the game is such a struggle for the Yankees right now.
These have been two crushing losses. Games they should have won. Lee’s not going to struggle forever and the league is catching up to Moseley’s average stuff.
I cant believe that people actually have the audacity to fight and argue with each other on this anniversary. Rather than just blaming the umpires and moving on.
MO threw, what, 20 pitches last night?
Let’s not act like he threw 40 and Joe brought him back after that.
In the playoffs, MO is going to be asked to do this pretty much every night. If he can’t pitch a 2nd day after throwing 20 pitches the night before then we’re really in trouble.
I might agree that Girardi killed them this game if they didn’t have the best closer in baseball pitching with a lead in the 9th inning.
That almost sounds like a perfect script to me.
Get the ball to Mariano with a lead in the 9th inning. Win games. A lot of them.
I am glad I can take this kind of lose like a man.
Don’t expect too much on this team, guys, they won’t go very far in postseason.
besides, it’s unreal to expect your team win WS every year.
matt is right. the yanks scored 6 runs. they should have scored 11…
there offense has sucked………….
btw the saviour aj burnett still has a over 5 era, and he still sucks big time.
i think michale kay and aj are dating….
“In the playoffs, MO is going to be asked to do this pretty much every night.”
If so, Girardi is an idiot. He’s almost 41.
Cliff Lee isn’t automatic against the yankees uninjured either. he has a high ERA against them.
Mariano didn’t blow the game.
An offense that can’t hit on the road and a rapidly inept manager is killing this team right now.
Now he’s talking about “resting” the only guy on the team that hits in the clutch tomorrow against Cliff Lee.
Clearly this “genius” doesn’t mind being the WC team. Despite the fact his team doesn’t hit or play with any consistency on the road since the ASB.
Hopefully, the Cubs will overpay him and he will move on.
He’s the biggest impediment on this team right now and he gets worse by the day.
There’s enough blame to go around for the entire team. Everyone had a hand in this awfully-played piece of crap. The pitchers, the hitters, the coaching staff, the managers. They all royally effed this game.
The way Girardi is managing right now he is lucky if Cash and the organization even want him back next year. When pressure is getting to the manager and his moves are costing the team games that isn’t a good thing. He has already cost them 3 games the last week and most likely the division. I would be really happy if they brought someone else in next year. I really don’t think he is ready to manage a team with as much attention and high profile as the Yankees.
I’m not upset about the loss really – just taking it in stride. Whatever happens, happens – why give myself an ulcer about it? I do really hate Girardi and want to see him leave – I’m done with him.
Oh stop being ridiculous. Rivera is not perfect, nobody is perfect. Rivera is going to give up runs once in a while, if you don’t give him any cushion to work with then you are going to get burned by it some nights.
If the offense did its job, Rivera would not have had to be perfect and could have challenged hitters like Guerrerro, and the inning most likely evolves differently than it did.
The Yankees have almost got burned by it many times this year, but Rivera has been perfect and gotten out of impossible jams. He can’t do it every night if you give him nothing to work with. Guerrerro, Cruz, and Kinsler are three really good hitters, and they didn’t deserve to win this game if they could not get all of those runs across inning after inning and it came back to bite them.
yea rich. they cannot pitch mo back to back in the playoffs because he is almost 41.
rich are you mentally challenged???????????????
Even if we have a lead tomorrow… Wood has been used 2 days in a row, Robertson isin’t right, MO probably isin’t available (nor should he be after the work these last 2 days), Logan is used basically everyday and his command has started to erode.
If we’re going to win tomorrow, we’re going to have to do it with Mosely, Joba, Mitre, Albaladejo…. against Lee.
How about this “great” offense show up on the road for once and put a 10 spot up?
“MO threw, what, 20 pitches last night?
Let’s not act like he threw 40 and Joe brought him back after that.”
The number of pitches is important, but throwing 24 pitches in one inning is not the same as throwing 24 pitches over two because the arm cools down and has to warm up again.
He’s 40. He’s not 28 anymore.
And the pitches he threw last night don’t even include him needing to warm up. He may have gotten up more than once given that game and how Girardi was managing it.
Rich in NJ: Absolutely correct.
Jerkface: You’re right. We’ve hit Lee in the past; so why not tomorrow? For some reason, the guys can hit against the great pitchers, but get nothing off the newbies/scrubs.
This has nothing to do with an offense that cant hit on the road versus at home.
We have scored 6 runs each of the past 2 nights.
This has to do with an offense that doesn’t value opportunities.
The offense scoring 6 runs and giving Mo a lead in the 9th is a script you will take every night.
Tonight’s game is history. No matter how much you want to analyze it, it’s over.
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I think the Yankees can beat Cliff Lee. I trust Moseley to get the job done. Tomorrow’s a new day and a new start for the Yankees.
The Yankees will NOT be the wild card, they will win the division.
The Yankees have lost 22-0 and come back to win the division and the world series. Don’t be blown away by one and two run games.
Okay, I’m going to bed. I wanted to add that post. And whoever said 9/11 and not baseball was life and death had it exactly right.
Yankee players have alread turned this page. Their fans should be able to do the same.
Please tell me what exactly Cashman and Hal see in Joe. Why exactly do they love him so much? I don’t even want to re-sign him……………….
stuart a hole
The point is two innings on one night and then use him again the next night.
It sucks that the offense was so horrible that Mariano had to get another loss next to his name and to this same team. When you load the bases every inning and don’t manage to score any runs, the game is on you. Too bad the game goes to the pitcher cause Mo didn’t deserve that one.
Technically, they lost the game on 9/12 so all of the people saying that we shouldn’t be upset because it’s 9/11 are a day late and a dollar short.
If Girardi gets an extension… that speaks very poorly on Cashman and Hal.
Remember, it’s their call to bring him back, not Girardi’s.
Let’s see how smart the FO really is. They bring this guy back… we have our answer right there.
stop making excuses for rivera, cause he won’t.
he didn’t do his job tonight yanks losted.
it not the first time, won’t be the last .
He has already cost them 3 games the last week and most likely the division
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must have mised where tampa was 10 games ahead?
last i looked, tampa had not taken over first, much less the yankees being done.
Stop being ridiculous, when you strand as many runners on as the Yankees did tonight and missed two chances to score on outs late in the game, 6 runs is not anywhere near enough. You can’t expect your bullpen to be lights out every single night against good hitters in a hitters’ ballpark to bail out your offense, eventually they have to start helping out.
A-Rod’s 3 run hit was the only thing saving the Yankees from having a tremendous failure of a night offensively yet again, but they should have been able to tack on some runs to give themselves something to work with and didn’t.
You have to win games that are slugfests some nights. If you let the other team hang around, you deserve to lose a game like this.
rich moron that is not what you said. also moron mo did not throw many pitches yesterday and has thrown 52 or so innings on the year…..
that is it……………….
mo has not been overused for the season or recently.
moron/……..
Rconn, lol – the odds are not good. I just hate giving up on a game before it’s even been played. I hate giving up on a series, on the playoffs, on anything – because then why should we bother even playing the games?
I don’t expect to win tomorrow, I admit, but we’ll see.
Laura – Actually, it’s still September 11 in some parts of the United States.
If Girardi gets an extension… that speaks very poorly on Cashman and Hal.
Remember, it’s their call to bring him back, not Girardi’s.
Let’s see how smart the FO really is. They bring this guy back… we have our answer right there.
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Yeah how dare girardi leave the bases loaded 6 times in 2 games. How dare him bring in the best closer and history and how dare girardi blow a save.
stuart a hole
You can read my mind? Sweet.
Mariano pitching 2 innings in a long game in the heat last night, and expecting him to bounce back easily is tough to ask from a 40 year old man.
He’s got 7 more games on this road trip.
Plenty of time to “rest” more guys, make boneheaded pitching decisions, and manage as if these games don’t matter.
It’s been his worst week as Yankee manager.
Only a Swisher swing has kept him from a six game losing streak.
Not good. Not good at all.
This old team has played nearly 10 hours of baseball over 2 nights. TB
is fresh and must be licking their chops. This may be a very long losing streak.
Not in Texas or NYC, CR9.
If Joe rests Alex tomorrow, he should be fired on the spot and replaced with a Fan of the Day because that tells me he has other things on his mind than winning. I can’t imagine how angry Alex will be – and the other players – if he does that. The guy is healthy and just sat for 2 weeks.
LOL, Kay just said tomorrow’s game is very important to Rangers because if they want to play 1 or 2 round playoff they have to win this kind of games.
what a moron. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Yanks are 3 and out, not a bit.
ac1
Do you actually watch the games and see the moves, non-moves and constant over and under-managing this idiot does on a daily basis?
Look Girardi hasn’t had the best week but let’s not go overboard either and start making pronouncements about next year.
The team is in a tough spell. The age may be showing on the roster.
They are still very well positioned to win in the postseason.
It’s going to be a challenge – primarily because the AL is quite good this year. There are going to be 4 very good teams in the playoffs.
The second that Girardi comes to the Yanks this off season and says “well you offered me this much money but the Cubs offered me this much more and I want more money to sign” I would say good bye. He isn’t a good enough manager that the Yanks should feel like they have to over pay him to get him to stay. He has been absolutely dreadful with pressure on him.
If the Yankees let the Cubs set the market for Girardi, that’s a sure sign they are done with him this off season.
Outside of the fact that Jeter, Swisher and Posada can’t be relied on right now to play to their capabilities, Girardi is not helping this team win crucial games.
If he gets the Wild Card, I wonder if Hal and the front office are ticked off at losing the guaranteed games in the post season they lose by being Wild Card and opening every series on the road.
Yanks left too men on base the last 2 nights and that’s more the reason for the losses than anything, if you wanna blame someone or some thing. It’s not like they’re trying to do this, IT HAPPENS! IT’S BASEBALLL. Yanks have been up and down all season, and yes it will be a tough post season. Ya’ can’t win at will !!!
1 swing away from a 6 game losing streak with 20 games left in the season.
Mosely vs Lee tomorrow? Well, you never know but I get the feeling that they already blew their best shot to take a game here.
# SJ44 September 12th, 2010 at 1:32 am
Mariano didn’t blow the game.
An offense that can’t hit on the road and a rapidly inept manager is killing this team right now.
Now he’s talking about “resting” the only guy on the team that hits in the clutch tomorrow against Cliff Lee.
Clearly this “genius” doesn’t mind being the WC team. Despite the fact his team doesn’t hit or play with any consistency on the road since the ASB.
Hopefully, the Cubs will overpay him and he will move on.
He’s the biggest impediment on this team right now and he gets worse by the day.
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100% agree.
Out of curiosity, who would you suggest as his replacement? I’ve been trying to think of options, and I’m drawing a blank.
He bunted 3-0!! Has anyone seen that before???
I have never!!
you people are ridiculous. how is it girardi’s fault that they have absolutely sucked with runners in scoring position? they have been in position to win and have not. the managers job is to give them the chance to win and they have had that chance. Joe cant swing the bat for them, nor woud we want him to.
Joe also cannot control pitchers constantly pitching from behind, or with runners on base.
The curse of the billy goat still exists, so since IMO Joe is a goat, he won’t be allowed in Wrigley.
Laura – lol, but I dont care either way. All these people arguing with one another and name-calling each other rather than name calling the people that deserve to be name called – the umpires. It’s disgraceful
Fans might have to start praying for a Cashman intervention . . . just kidding . . . I think. What’s going on with Joe G?
Tony Pena should be the Yankees manager next year. Case closed.
And if Alex plays tomorrow, blows his calf and is out for the rest of the season, you guys would be killing Girardi for that.
Again:
I want to know why Hal and Cash love him so much. Like him? Yes – he’s a good guy and a decent manager. Love him? No – he’s by no means a special manager. Let him walk.
CC better win his game (and pitch 9 innings) or this thing could go downhill fast.
Mosely tomorrow. Nova on Tuesday, Hughes off a long layoff on Wednesday. Then we get to start the Burnett-Vazquez show again over the weekend.
As long as this road offense shows up, CC might be the only thing keeping them from a winless road trip.
Rivera didn’t pitch lights out tonight, it happens once in a while. If you don’t tack on runs, then you are going to lose the game if it happens to come on that night. With Guerrerro, Cruz, and Kinsler coming up in the 9th, it was going to be tough if you didn’t tack on the run and the Yankees couldn’t get it done yet again.
Last night’s game was a terrible job by Girardi in every facet of the game, and the moves he made last night made tonight’s game even tougher to win, since he had to go to his entire pen in a game that should have been over in 9 innings.
The only reason Tampa has not already passed them is that Tampa has been playing poorly as well. When Tampa loses 2/3 in Boston and the Yankees are playing Baltimore at home, you expect at the very least that they should gain at least 1 game in the standings on them, but the Yankees almost lost one to them if not for Swisher’s home run.
If you don’t take care of your own business, you deserve what they are getting.
Laura, why would he blow out his calf? He’s healthy – are you worried about other players blowing out their calves?
How dare Girardi use a guy in the 8 th inning last night who has blown 6 8th inning leads to blow another one last night.
How dare he continue to use an ineffective Chad Gaudin for more than one inning.
How dare he foolishly PH for Gardner, Noe of the few guys who has hit this year.
How dare he waste Rivera for two innings last night in a tie game on the road.
I could go on with his horrible idea but, you get the picture.
Purenyyankee September 12th, 2010 at 1:39 am
ac1
Do you actually watch the games and see the moves, non-moves and constant over and under-managing this idiot does on a daily basis?
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I see everyone here constantly acting like they know what to do after the fact. Funny how you all know what is the best move everytime, or what not to do.
Maybe YOU should manage the yankees. yeah thats a thought. since you could make this team 162-0.
I do find it curious that Girardi keeps telling his guys to leave so many runners on base.
A Burnett 4.0 4 2 2 3 6 0 88-51 5.13
C Gaudin 1.0 3 2 2 0 1 0 14-12 5.43
look at the numbers for these clowns…. aj 7 baserunners in 4 innings. he literally sucks. i dispease this overpriced mental case…………….
no clutch hitting and you lose, not real complicated………….
Girardi makes me sick. How can he say with a straight face that he doesn’t think that Mo pitching 2 innings yesterday was a big deal. Right now Girardi looks like Tom Gordon under pressure. He hates when the media asks him questions about his stupid move.
Marlins have won their 2 W.S. as a wild card, S.F. hasn’t won since moving west in 58′ !
Others have NEVER won one !
Lossen up and view a little reality, it’s tougher than ever to win a W.S. !
It’s called SPORTS !!!
How dare Girardi use a guy in the 8 th inning last night who has blown 6 8th inning leads to blow another one last night.
How dare he continue to use an ineffective Chad Gaudin for more than one inning.
How dare he foolishly PH for Gardner, Noe of the few guys who has hit this year.
How dare he waste Rivera for two innings last night in a tie game on the road.
I could go on with his horrible idea but, you get the picture
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1. Gardner left a small army on base the last two nights
2. Chad was fine for the first inning both times.
3. Joba was pitching much better lately.
4. Rivera didnt throw that many pitches last night
I can go on too, but you know best.
winles road trip. the hysteria of trolls on this site is staggering. they play 3 in baltimore morons……..
btw they are i think 32 over 500…..
CB, no pronouncements from me. The team is still well-positioned to do good things. They are a good team, but nothing special; then again, the Rays aren’t the 1998 Yankees either (right, Buster?)……………..If they lose in the first round, it wouldn’t surprise me; if they win it all, wouldn’t surprise me. However, I can say that about all the teams. This is the year for the NL, I think……………
stop making excuses for rivera. he simply didn’t do his job.
before last night game, his last appearances was was sept 4
# raymagnetic September 12th, 2010 at 1:43 am
I do find it curious that Girardi keeps telling his guys to leave so many runners on base.
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Two completely separate complaints.
The offense has been totally atrocious for the last 2 series. That goes without saying.
But that doesn’t absolve Girardi from making boneheaded moves.
Both things have been a huge problem. No one’s blaming Girardi for the offense sucking. He IS, however, being held accountable for his mismanagement of the bullpen and bench.
“Laura, why would he blow out his calf? He’s healthy – are you worried about other players blowing out their calves?”
Betsy, Alex just came off of the DL from an injury to his calf. Of course he’s vulnerable to re-injury. Truth be told, Swisher is probably hindering his healing knee by playing on it. I want Alex in the lineup everyday as well, but I do understand why Joe would play it safe with him at this point.
Girardi took out 2 of his better hitters yesterday for pinch runners with 2 outs and runners on first. He brought in Joba to face Cruz leading off the 8th inning of a 1 run game yesterday.
Girardi can put his players in positions in which they are likely to succeed, and he does not. He left Berkman in to face a lefty the other day when he had to face the hitter, then pinch hit for Granderson and allowed them to take out the lefty and bring in the righty to matchup with Thames.
If you continue to put your team in a position where it is harder for it to get the job done, then you can’t be too shocked when the results aren’t there. He is not managing the games with any kind of urgency, and he’s getting burned night after night as a result.
mo threw 23 pitches yesterday, sorry clowns that is not a lot. he also had the previous 4 or 5 days off.
they lost because arod was the only guy who got a clutch hit, gaudin pitched for no conceivable reason. that is it quite simple…………….
This is hilarious though…. people hated Torre and wanted him gone. We find a guy who is the exact opposite of Torre, and now people turn on him a year after winning a WS and want him gone…
The grass is always greener on the other side.
They hire Pena and he makes a few bad decisions, people kill him and kill Cashman for hiring a guy who quit on the Royals when he couldn’t handle losing. Or if they hire Mattingly, they kill him for hiring a guy with no experience.
Those looking for the perfect manager ain’t going to find it. Again, people hate Torre AND Girardi despite the fact that they are polar opposites of eachother. That shows how fickle fans are.
GLove, now I think that would be unfair – to let him go just based on getting the WC. After all, Tampa is still a good team…………not great, but good. If they lose the division winning close to 100 games, you can’t use that as a reason to get rid of the guy. Now if it’s a matter of process, then that’s another story. If they don’t like how he’s going about his business, then absolutely let him go. Cash and Hal are very smart guys, so if they love Joe, then maybe I have to start to question their judgment when it comes to managers
The manager’s job is to put his team in the best position to win.
If you think Girardi has done that this week, let’s just agree to disagree.
I hope the Cubs aren’t watching these games.
I think Joe Girardi would be an excellent manager for the Cubs.
I wholeheartedly recommend him for the job.
In the meantime, it would be nice if he shows up and finishes the job he has right now.
He hasn’t showed up all week v
# 4 NYY September 12th, 2010 at 1:28 am
OMG, what a bunch of babies here tonight ! Poor pathetic losers ! Grow up, it’s a game being played by a bunch of overpaid men. It’s not life or death !
TODAY’S ANNIVERSARY WAS !!!
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Thanks you for some sanity in the midst of all this madness. Well said.
i love that when the yankees win 7 in a row, it’s in spite of Girardi, but when they lose, it is all on him. You hate Joe, we get it. You hate everyone when they lose. You probably hate your own life too. We get it. Go support a team with a better manager, like the A’s, or the Royals. You know, the QUALITY teams.
If Girardi sits Alex tomorrow it will be more about the 3 games coming up on turf in Tampa and having him available for all of those than Alex needing the rest tomorrow.
Screw tomorrow’s game. The problems are much bigger than this series. Ummm, like having only one starter who can pitch past the 5th. Like an old team that can’t hit in the clutch. Like a manager who is wetting his pants on a nightly basis.
ac1 and betsy with some reasonable posts.. wow, yo udo not want to jump off a bridge like the othe rfools???????????/
leave 30 runners in 2 games and you usually lose.. how complicated is that??????who is less clutch; granderson, jeter, or gardner?????????can it be a tie, they all stink…………
Swish should be DL’d – and maybe have his knee re-examined. How can it be just a sore knee when he’s looking this bad? There has to be something wrong..and even if there isn’t, he can’t play, so no sense pretending he can.. It sucks.
“The manager’s job is to put his team in the best position to win. ”
What better position is there than getting the ball to Mariano with a lead in the 9th?
If you can come up with a better scenario I’d like to hear it.
If Mo wasn’t tired, his command would have been better. A blind man can see that.
“Those looking for the perfect manager ain’t going to find it. Again, people hate Torre AND Girardi despite the fact that they are polar opposites of eachother. That shows how fickle fans are.”
It’s the “What have you done for me lately” syndrome. That being said, I do agree that Girardi has made some moves this week that I find puzzling. In the end though, I don’t think his moves are to blame for the losses. It is mostly on the offense. I almost wish Alex hadn’t gotten that bases clearing double. I hate false hope and when we took the need, that’s all I had.
There is absolutely no way that Arod can sit tomorrow. If he doesn’t play 3rd base then let him DH. I doubt that Moseley will pitch good tomorrow but weird things have happened. They will need all the runs they can get with him on the mound and with everyone cold in the lineup they can’t sit their best hitter.
“What better position is there than getting the ball to Mariano with a lead in the 9th?
If you can come up with a better scenario I’d like to hear it.”
So whether or not he’s rested doesn’t matter?
Girardi’s choking – big time. That said, as I mentioned earlier today, it’s not his fault the SP has been so lousy.
as stated previously. they need pettite else the yare toast.
starters for the playoffs are; cc, pettitte, hughes, and then pray for rain.
aj is coming up next for the post game. it should be profound. this guy is clueless and as smart as a rock…..the guy sucks and is a woosie, scared of contact like a control pitcher who throws 87…………
Look, blame the offense all you want, but if Joe pulls Robertson when he should have, it may have been 6-4 after the eighth. This after inserting Gaudin in a tie game one day after he blew the last game. It’s on Joe, not the offense. And tonight, mo.
Gardner was pulled because of a sore wrist.
Sometimes there are reasons and not just Girardi picking names out of a hat.
# 4 NYY September 12th, 2010 at 1:45 am
Marlins have won their 2 W.S. as a wild card, S.F. hasn’t won since moving west in 58? !
Others have NEVER won one !
Lossen up and view a little reality, it’s tougher than ever to win a W.S. !
It’s called SPORTS !!!
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Dude…high horse. Come off of yours.
You may not get upset when they lose. You may have an “Aw, shucks” attitude towards the team. That’s fine.
But others do not. To many, watching the team lose is upsetting. That’s just as reasonable as you completely blowing off a lose.
I understand that some teams have never won a Series. That doesn’t mean I’m going to sit here and hope we get bounced early so that those plucky Rays have their time to shine.
I want the Yankees to win every year. Is that realistic? Not at all. But if someone DOESN’T want their team to win a title every year, then they aren’t really a fan.
THAT’S sports.
The Yankees scored 6 runs tonight.
The offense was not a problem.
Mo needs to be given a break – period. He’s exhausted………….thanks Joe. Let Wood try and close for a few games. Wait, he’s unavailable probably for the next couple of games also.
Gardner’s wrist was bothering him that is why Girardi took him out.
I really liked the Garder-Grandy combo at the top of the order. I thought he should have done that tonight.
If he sits Alex tomorrow, I might freak. Let him DH a game in Tampa Bay and give Nunez a start at 3B against a lefty.
DLed? With expanded rosters?
Nobody has a personal vendetta against Girardi.
Girardi will earn the response of the fans with what he does on the field, and Girardi has earned a negative one by making some very questionable decisions a lot of the time.
He’s not Torre bad, but he’s made a ton of big mistakes in his own right. The only saving grace for Girardi is that he at least knows how to keep his bullpen from getting burnt out, but he so overmanages and gets outmanaged by every decent manager.
The Yankees do win in spite of Girardi, not because of him. Last year’s team overcame his incredibly boneheaded managing many times to bail him out because they were the best team in all of baseball. This year’s team is most likely not good enough to do so if he puts them in situations every night in which they are not likely to succeed.
You do realize that if A-Rod did not hit that home run off Fuentes last postseason, the next two hitters due up were Guzman and bad Gardner, with nobody available to pinch hit other than Hairston pretty much? Bringing in Aceves in Game 3? Leaving in Burnett once they took the lead in Game 5? The fact that they won the ALCS is a miracle given how many situations like that presented themselves.
I’m really baffled as to why ANYONE questions what happened tonight. Mariano had nothing, but the reason is incredibly obvious–he threw two innings yesterday (in a tie game on the road). He was gassed out there. The man is going to be 41 in November, and his knee has been hurting. You can’t expect him to be right the day after an extended outing. And to those who say, “he only threw 23 pitches,” or whatever: yes, but it was over two innings, when a pitcher has to get up, sit down, get up again. What a pity. Bad managing last night led to tonight’s loss, and it seems as plain as can be. Seriously bad managing.
so rivera never blew a game when was rested?
24 pitches please?
o whether or not he’s rested doesn’t matter
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23 pitches 24 hours ago. He was just fine. He walked a hitter who walks less than cano to start the inning.
Look, blame the offense all you want, but if Joe pulls Robertson when he should have, it may have been 6-4 after the eighth. This after inserting Gaudin in a tie game one day after he blew the last game. It’s on Joe, not the offense. And tonight, mo.
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Pull Robertson for who? I’ll give ou Gaudin, but what were the other options? Like Mitre is a shut down pitcher? If you go to Wood in the 7th, then what?
Well, I’m off to bed. I’ll pray that we win tomorrow. If we don’t, life will still go on.
Later!
giradri under any cirumstances would never ever abuse mariano
Jobs hadn’t pitched well in high leverage situations or 8th innings all year.
Using Gaudin for two innings on two consecutive nights, when you have a rested Mitre, who is the better pitcher, is dumb.
PH for Gardner for a guy who is 3 for his last 28 is insane.
Mariano is 40, pitching in 90+ degree heat, and hasn’t pitched multiple innings too much all year.
Pushing him now is also dumb.
Senseless moves and he’s hurting the team.
Let’s see if he follows thru on his plan and rests Arod tomorrow.
That will be “fun” if he does that.
“So whether or not he’s rested doesn’t matter?”
What happens in the playoffs then? No way he’s going to be rested when the playoffs come around.
They’ll likely need him to pitch back to back games comes playoff time.
Should they simply forfeit the game?
The offense got six runs. That should be enough to win when your Jekyll starter gives up only two and the pen with it’s 3 ERA comes in. If they are used correctly.
The Yankees hit .333 tonight with a .467 OBP
betsy now getting hysterical. mo is not exhausted…. he has thrown 53 innings…………
also lgy. the offense sucked tonight…….
aj thinks he pitched well….. 4 innings 2 runs, man he has some low standards. i guess $85 mill does not buy you much……………………
listen to this crap………………….
SJ needs help……
Pat. Arod does not have to really deal with the turf in Tampa. It is not like the turf in toronto that covers the basepaths. Unless he is going to play the outfield, he might only touch the turf if they bunt or he has to go back towards the outfield to catch a popup.
Resting Arod would be a horrible idea, he has been doing very well lately and shouldn’t sit for any of the games.
Pat, then don’t DL him but he shouldn’t play for a few games at least.
“24 pitches please?”
Over 2 IP (sitting down and warming up again isn’t free) in the extreme heat.
Mo’s command is the tell. It is virtually never off unless he’s tired.
Stuart, excuse me? I’m not hysterical so don’t tell me I am…………..
people were whining about not going to posada the other day, but he was in the hospital.
Now gardner, and his wrist.
Maybe you should all shut the hell up and wait until you have facts before complaining into the early morning hours.
Betsy September 12th, 2010 at 1:50 am
Swish should be DL’d – and maybe have his knee re-examined. How can it be just a sore knee when he’s looking this bad? There has to be something wrong..and even if there isn’t, he can’t play, so no sense pretending he can.. It sucks.
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He’s on the 40 man.
“What happens in the playoffs then? No way he’s going to be rested when the playoffs come around.”
Do you think he is the same guy that he was in Game 7 v. the RS in 2003?
Wood can share the burden.
Let Wood close a game, and have Joba pitch the 8th? I thought Joe putting Joba in the game is why we lost yesterday? Robertson has looked awful lately, he is far from a sure thing the last 2 weeks.
Folks, as long as the starters can’t get out of the 5th inning night after night, the bullpen is going to be overtaxed and guys who shouldn’t be pitching in big spots (Gaudin, Joba) are going to find themselves there.
So if you have been walked 20 times in the game and score 6 runs while going 2 for 18 with RISP, did the offense do its job?
It’s not black and white, the offense failed tonight and failed big time. A-Rod’s 3 RBI double was the only thing between this being a tremendous failure and just a failure.
The Rangers pitchers could barely find the strike zone in many of those innings, and the Yankees still found ways to let them off the hook. You have to make them pay for putting so many guys on, and if you can’t, you didn’t do your job.
So you would assume tomorrow Robertson, Wood, Logan and Mo wouldn’t be available. That is going to be a tough game to win especially with Moseley on the mound.
betsy you are hysterical . first off no need to put swisher on the dl with expanded roster.
2. mo exhausted. no he is not maybe you are……….
Rich,
What if they need Wood and Mo on back to back nights? Then what?
Whatever, it’s not like I care what you think of me………
The fundamental issue with the team right now isn’t the manager, the bull pen or even the offense as much as a it is the prolonged lack of length being provided by the rotation.
That’s the root cause of much of the strange issues we’re seeing now such.
Management, bull pen and the offense have all been problematic – they’ve all been contributing.
But the base issue is lack of innings from the starting rotation.
That’s been going on for a while now and it’s now starting to affect other aspects of the team and the manager’s decision making in very negative ways.
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He could have put in Alba earlier. He has been pitching in pressure situations all year long at Scranton. I also may have trusted Joba to get one out there more than a gassed dRob.
raymagnetic
Both pitching 2 IP in extreme heat?
Pray for rain.
Lifting Gardner for a pinch hitter would have been the right move whether he was hurt or not.
He has looked terrible against LHP lately, and you were in a situation in which you needed to generate offense any way you could.
Girardi was brought here to be intelligent and unconventional when it was necessary, yet all he does most of the time is play it exactly by the book and it costs him.
You don’t win the wild card.
You default into it.
If that’s what we do, it’s a letdown.
Then we’ll be peppered with all the “we just wanted a ticket to the dance” cliche’s to justify this collapse the team is going through.
You don’t want to blame Girardi that’s your prerogative.
My feeling is he’s out of his mind right now. His team has so many banged up and ineffective parts that he’s trying ridiculous moves to spark the offense.
This all begins because the starters fall apart and the pen is overused. That’s always the recipe for disaster here.
But what Girardi is doing strategy wise with the offense is mind boggling.
O’Neil didn’t even want to comment on some of the moves tonight they were so absurd.
The one thing I agree with is he had to put Mo out there tonight. He had no choice.
The thing that some of you fail to admit is he didn’t have to use Mo the way he did last night and that’s what probably led to this failure.
Last night he could have went Hughes in the 8th and a fresh Mo in the 9th and ballgame.
Instead he goes back to Joba who fails and will always fail in that situation.
That’s bad managing. That move has cost his team 2 games in a row they were leading in.
“raymagnetic
Both pitching 2 IP in extreme heat?
Pray for rain.”
Game 1 of the playoffs in Yankee stadium (hopefully). Wood pitches the 8th, Mo pitches the 9th and 10th, Yanks win in the 10th.
Next night Yankees 1 run lead. Wood pitches the 8th. You using Wood over Mariano in the 9th?
“The one thing I agree with is he had to put Mo out there tonight. He had no choice.
The thing that some of you fail to admit is he didn’t have to use Mo the way he did last night and that’s what probably led to this failure.”
Well put, and it is the best way to look at it.
the bullpen knowledge on this blog isd laughable.
wood threw 9 pitches tonight clowns..
should they wrap him in plastic for 2 days?????????
they lost because the offense sucked. they have gotten 2 big hits in 1 week. the swisher HR and arods double tonight, that is it in 1 week.
swisher hassucked, so has tex, gardner, cano, jeter, etc… berkman has been good but with little or no power………………………………..
raymagnetic
Here’s the thing, and G Love said it well, this isn’t the playoffs.
There was no reason to use him for two IP last night.
CB, you’re right…………..Andy coming back will be great, but he won’t be able to go deep into games. Phil has been extremely inefficient and hasn’t gone deep in a dog’s age. Lord knows about AJ and Javy………….and Nova’s a baby. Will Nova be the one removed from the rotation upon Andy’s return?
Sometimes Joe leaves AJ in even when he’s bad just to get some innings from him; he did that with Phil earlier this season, when his bad starts were rare, but he can’t do that now, since Phil is running up ridiculously high pitch counts.
The chances are slim he will be pitching in 90+ degrees in the playoffs.
Also, you don’t play more than 2 days in a row in the playoffs. It’s easier to manage his workload.
LGY,
Some nights, 6 isn’t enough. Leaving 32 guys on base in two days doesn’t absolve the offense of it’s futility on the road.
At this point, the team is what it is.
Hopefully, they can win a few games on this road trip and play better at home.
It’s looking like the WC is probably where they land at this rate.
If it is, they will have to make the best of it in the post-season.
Joba protected a 1-run lead in Chicago 2 weeks ago.
ChokeXOnXFailure September 12th, 2010 at 1:52 am
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I’ve been around long enough to see Yanks lose in 57′ and come back to win W.S. in 58′ after being down 3-1 as a young kid. No one wants to see them win more than I do ! PERIOD ! But, I grew up and no longer live and die with every pitch. I take the good with the bad and enjoy ! And the Yankees, as far as I can see, are well represented almost every year. They never stop trying to do the best for their fans and spend a ton to do so. So, for some to act like children on here is ridiculous. We can’t control the players, manager, or coaches.
That is baseball as a Yankee loving fan knows it.
GLove, why do you think he avoided using Phil? The only reason he ended up using him was because he had no choice at that point. He kept saying before the game that Phil would be used if the chance presented itself – and that getting Phil in a game would be preferable to an extended bullpen session. His comments, and then his inaction until the 9th, tell me he has absolutely no clue what he’s doing. I don’t know if he lost faith in Phil or he prefers Joba’s pure stuff or he’s related to Joba.
“But the base issue is lack of innings from the starting rotation.”
We have a winner!
Getting 4+ innings from the pen over an extended period of time is going to come back and bite you and it did.
Girardi’s biggest problem is that he is inconsistent in his philosophy. He pulls Javy and Nova at the first sign of trouble, yet leaves AJ and DRob in too long when they scuffle. He uses a different lineup every day to “rest” his veterans. He overmanages on some occasions and under manages on others. When a team slumps offensively, as they all do, this type of managing puts them at a huge disadvantage.
“The thing that some of you fail to admit is he didn’t have to use Mo the way he did last night and that’s what probably led to this failure.
Last night he could have went Hughes in the 8th and a fresh Mo in the 9th and ballgame.
Instead he goes back to Joba who fails and will always fail in that situation.
That’s bad managing. That move has cost his team 2 games in a row they were leading in.”
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Spot on. High five and a gold star to you, friend.
Of course, the starters are hurting the team, but that doesn’t excuse mishandling the pen.
I don’t need help at all.
Perhaps you should put down your pom poms and take a good look at this team, how they are playing, and how that bodes the rest of the way.
If you think there is nothing wrong, or Girardi has been great behind the bench, we can agree to disagree.
Hard to believe with Vazquez and Burnett pitching that they should have won both games. The starting pitching is simply not good enough. Big picture folks.
Well tonight the rain delay didn’t help things – AJ surely would have given us another inning or two.
“How dare Girardi use a guy in the 8 th inning last night who has blown 6 8th inning leads to blow another one last night.
How dare he continue to use an ineffective Chad Gaudin for more than one inning.
How dare he foolishly PH for Gardner, Noe of the few guys who has hit this year.
How dare he waste Rivera for two innings last night in a tie game on the road. ”
1. Because he’s also used the same guy in the 8th in games where he hasn’t blown leads?
2. Because he sported an ERA of 1.27 over the last 9 games before last night?
3. ?
4. Because he was trying to win the game and thought that he had the best chance of doing it with Mo on the mound, especially since so many Yankees had made it on base?
How dare he? You’re a Yankee fan. He’s the manager of the New York Yankees and the manager who won the world series last season. And I think you are letting your dislike for Gaudin and Joba creep into the equation.
Bottom line – the difference between a manager being a genius and a manager being an idiot is based on whether or not the players execute the plays.
It’s a game, not life and death. And players and managers know how to get past losses and go back to work.
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By the way, I suggested that the extreme heat could have had something to do with the Yankees poor play. AJ mentioned the heat as having had a negative effect on his pitching tonight. And AJ doesn’t look for excuses. He calls it like it is.
Men, not machines. Baseball, not PacMan. Some of you need to get over your indignation. It isn’t like the Yankees begged you to be their fan. You opted in. If you don’t like what you see, opt out, don’t flip out. Or learn to life with imperfection. It happens everywhere, I bet even in things you all do.
It’s a game. It is NOT life and death.
“Also, you don’t play more than 2 days in a row in the playoffs. It’s easier to manage his workload. ”
Actually this year in the playoffs they will definitely be playing back to back nights.
In the ALCS they play 3 games in a row.
Ledger_Yankees Gardner has a sore right wrist, been bothering him since getting hit in LA but it’s been worse in recent days. May get an MRI in TB
TheStraw September 12th, 2010 at 2:06 am
Girardi’s biggest problem is that he is inconsistent in his philosophy. He pulls Javy and Nova at the first sign of trouble, yet leaves AJ and DRob in too long when they scuffle. He uses a different lineup every day to “rest” his veterans. He overmanages on some occasions and under manages on others. When a team slumps offensively, as they all do, this type of managing puts them at a huge disadvantage.
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Not going to defend all of the moves Girardi has made lately, but I will say that part of managing a baseball team or in the workplace is adapting your philosophy to the needs of the players/employees under your control. Not everyone should be treated in the same way, different strokes for different folks and whatnot.
CB September 12th, 2010 at 1:59 am
The fundamental issue with the team right now isn’t the manager, the bull pen or even the offense as much as a it is the prolonged lack of length being provided by the rotation.
That’s the root cause of much of the strange issues we’re seeing now such.
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Excellent point, and absolutely true.
Look, in the National League, there is one team that would love to hire Girardi if the Yankees are dumb enough to let him walk, and that’s the Cubs.
Of all the managers that could get that horrendous franchise over the curse and into a WS, I would pick Joe Girardi.
This team has one reliable starter, and he’s a good one. But, you are going nowhere fast in this league with only one reliable starter. It’s just that simple.
All this nonsense about Mo being too old to go two days in a row, or that he’s “gassed” from pitching last night – in 90 degree weather! – is horseradish! He had a bad game! Surprise, he’s human after all. But, most of the time he ain’t!
The Yankees are going to the postseason, WC, or East champs, it doesn’t matter. Get to the postseason, then we’ll see what happens.
Straw, good stuff. Basically that’s the long way of saying he has no clue what he’s doing, that he pulls stuff out of his rear end.
The offense hasn’t been efficient but to be frank this offense is built in ways in which it is going to have games like it has had tonight and yesterday.
Looking at the number of runners on needs to be balanced with the number of runs scored. It’s not an offense that is going to be consistently efficient.
It’s an offense made up of guys with relatively high OBP but not a lot of guys hitting for high batting averages. That combination is going to tend to score by sheer brute force of getting guys on base over and over and then getting a few big hits with power.
The past two games were very strange for Arlington. The ball didn’t carry for whatever reason and that hurt the offense a great deal. They hit 5-6 balls that on most night would have been home runs in Texas.
That’s part of why they’ve played so well there traditionally. They can leverage the park with their power hitting. The ball simply didn’t carry. Very unusual for Arlington.
So it’s been since before the ASB that Brett’s wrist has been bothering him and they didn’t think to get an MRI before now?
Mo doesn’t pitch as well in goofy hats.
He’ll be fine in October.
CB,
Friday night Tex should have had at least 2 HR’s that the park somehow kept in.
It was downright baffling to me since this park usually played about as small as Camden Yards to us in the past.
# Betsy September 12th, 2010 at 2:10 am
So it’s been since before the ASB that Brett’s wrist has been bothering him and they didn’t think to get an MRI before now?
http://www.miamiherald.com/201.....ative.html
Come on we aren’t the Mets.
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Tex has hit shots that normally would have flown out of that ball park.
Look at Alex’s reaction to that shot he hit to center field tonight. He got a bit under the ball but he fully expected it to leave the park. But it didn’t.
Granderson has hit two shots to deep centerfield that usually would have at least hit the wall.
This has been a very bizarre two games in that ball park.
And that’s artificially making the offense perform worse than what you’d hope and expect.
They’ve squared up a lot of balls that have gotten caught deep.
“The fundamental issue with the team right now isn’t the manager, the bull pen or even the offense as much as a it is the prolonged lack of length being provided by the rotation.
That’s the root cause of much of the strange issues we’re seeing now such.
Management, bull pen and the offense have all been problematic – they’ve all been contributing.
But the base issue is lack of innings from the starting rotation.
That’s been going on for a while now and it’s now starting to affect other aspects of the team and the manager’s decision making in very negative ways.”
Aha! And this is what happens when you have the ability to remove your own hurt feelings and petty annoyances from the situation and look at things objectively.
The manager doesn’t manage in a vacuum, he manages on a continuum. (Probably the only words I know with double u’s in them!) He knows the overall situation much better than self-interested fans do. And he wants to win as much as the fanbase if not more. More probably since he is MUCH closer to the actual situation. Life happens, games happen, odd things happen. Big deal. So they happen. Today is the tomorrow your worried about yesterday. You can’t control it so try to enjoy it. Believe it or not, Girardi knows how to manage. Like all managers he is going to lose some games. The fact that he has won more than he has lost and has managed to keep the Yankees in first place despite an unsteady rotation tells me that he is really a quite good manager.
The park couldn’t contain Cruz’s blasts.
“Girardi’s biggest problem is that he is inconsistent in his philosophy. He pulls Javy and Nova at the first sign of trouble, yet leaves AJ and DRob in too long when they scuffle.”
Haven’t D-Rob and Burnett earned a longer rope than Nova and Vazquez? Nova is a rookie and Vazquez has sucked all year. What have they done to earn any rope?
“He uses a different lineup every day to “rest” his veterans.”
Considering they have a playoff spot locked up, doesn’t he have the luxury to do that? With all the age we have, plus guys like Gardner/Swisher who are battling injuries, shouldn’t he use it to his advantage that we are in the playoffs and not push these guys now, when he needs them in 3 weeks? He has said repetedly that he is not going to chase the division if it means playing hurt guys, screwing up the rotation, etc. Fans want the team to go pedal to the medal, but it’s not always the smart thing.
“He overmanages on some occasions and under manages on others.”
Don’t all managers do that? Didn’t Torre, the HOF manager, do that? I don’t think Girardi is doing anything fundamentally different from other managers. Francona, who everyone loves, basically concedes the WC every year to get his team ready for the playoffs.
# 4 NYY September 12th, 2010 at 2:05 am
I’ve been around long enough to see Yanks lose in 57? and come back to win W.S. in 58? after being down 3-1 as a young kid. No one wants to see them win more than I do ! PERIOD ! But, I grew up and no longer live and die with every pitch. I take the good with the bad and enjoy ! And the Yankees, as far as I can see, are well represented almost every year. They never stop trying to do the best for their fans and spend a ton to do so. So, for some to act like children on here is ridiculous. We can’t control the players, manager, or coaches.
That is baseball as a Yankee loving fan knows it.
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All I’m saying is, you have every right to watch the game and enjoy it however you want to. If you can enjoy the bad and move past it, more power to you.
But I don’t think it makes anyone less “grown up” to be upset that the team is playing as poorly as they are right now.
Some of us DO hang on every pitch. I don’t think that’s unreasonable. It’s passion.
This isn’t a condemnation of the organization. I agree 100% that they do spend a ton, and try to put the best product possible on the field for their fans.
But when you see the kind of continued futility at the plate, or a manager who is clearly lost his ever-lovin’ mind…it’s frustrating. Maybe you are able to allow that frustration fall by the wayside and move on. If you can, that’s great. More power to you.
But I don’t think that getting upset when you see a team that you’re incredibly passionate about, playing so far below what they’re capable of, is unreasonable. We can’t control it, you are correct in that. But that doesn’t make it any less frustrating.
Both responses are valid. I guess I just felt like your previous statements were a little holier than thou.
Carl, but if it’s been bothering him for that long, and it’s been affecting his play, then I think an MRI should have been done. I’m not going to make a big stink out of this, but it surprises me.
“The park couldn’t contain Cruz’s blasts.”
That’s not how probability works.
Rich, that’s true. I wonder if the Yanks are just suffering a power outage that has nothing to do with the park. Alex hasn’t hit HRs all year..
I also wonder how much Borbon’s defense in CF has affected these games vs. Hamilton’s defense in CF.
Granted Hamilton is clearly a better bat in the lineup, but Borbon has been a vacumn cleaner in CF.
The Yankees are hitting balls deep in Texas. Even Ramiro Pena got into one tonight.
They just aren’t clearing the wall.
# Nick in SF September 12th, 2010 at 2:14 am
Mo doesn’t pitch as well in goofy hats.
He’ll be fine in October.
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Good line, but it seems everyone everywhere today wore the “goofy” although patriotic hats.
The Yankees scored 6 runs.
The road offense was not a problem.
The offense failing to value opportunities was and remains a problem.
ChokeXOnXFailure September 12th, 2010 at 2:19 am
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Fair enough. To be totally honest, I guess I’m somewhat like Torre was. Cool outside, while still churning inside. Respect.
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Good points. But I would prefer that he show more instinct at riding the hot hand. Nova should get more rope than Javy at least, and he should have left either Wood or Hughes in longer last night. I agree with your other two points, but I don’t want him to do that atvthe expense of dropping say 7 of 10 games. I would like to see them win the east, but the important thing is getting there I agree. We’ll see if any of this craziness carries over to the playoffs.
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The Yankees issue is starting pitching.
If they can get the starting pitching back on track, and I mean you too AJ Burnett, then they will go far (I think all the way) in the playoffs.
However, if they cannot get Pettitte back to being the Pettitte he was earlier, and Burnett is still, well, Burnett, and Hughes is still on innings limits, then you can say goodbye to the Yankees after the first round.
C.C. Sabathia is a great pitcher, and is having a great season, but his huge back isn’t nearly big enough to carry the whole staff.
C.C. Sabathia is a great pitcher, and is having a great season, but his huge back isn’t nearly big enough to carry the whole staff.
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Realistically, it might be. But I get what you’re saying.
# IIOIIOIIO September 12th, 2010 at 2:26 am
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BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA…That actually made me LOL. Thanks.
Bottom line, taking both Tampa series would alleviate much of the angst. Let’s hope they can turn it on.
Phil was not available for more than 1 inning – he’s a starter, not a reliever now, and he’s starting on Wednesday. I’ve no problem with taking him out after 1 – I would have been upset had Joe just changed his mind on a whim and left Phil in there despite comments to the contrary.
Can someone – in their long posts about what they think is wrong with the Yankees – PLEASE mention the umpires??
PLEASE??
# Pepitone September 12th, 2010 at 2:30 am
The Yankees issue is starting pitching.
If they can get the starting pitching back on track, and I mean you too AJ Burnett, then they will go far (I think all the way) in the playoffs.
However, if they cannot get Pettitte back to being the Pettitte he was earlier, and Burnett is still, well, Burnett, and Hughes is still on innings limits, then you can say goodbye to the Yankees after the first round.
C.C. Sabathia is a great pitcher, and is having a great season, but his huge back isn’t nearly big enough to carry the whole staff.
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Exactly right. Pitching, especially starting pitching is still the biggest part of the game. The other parts just take over sometimes, but it always comes back to pitching.
Phil’s innings limits won’t come into play anymore as I doubt he’ll have to be skipped. The bigger problem is finding a way to get him back to a semblance of his former self……………but I don’t expect that against Tampa after long rest.
CR9 September 12th, 2010 at 2:33 am
Can someone – in their long posts about what they think is wrong with the Yankees – PLEASE mention the umpires??
PLEASE??
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Good morning. In less than an hour, aircraft from here will join others from around the world. And you will be launching the largest aerial battle in the history of mankind. “Mankind.” That word should have new meaning for all of us today. UMPIRES. We can’t be consumed by our petty differences anymore. We will be united in our common interests. Perhaps it’s fate that today is the Fourth of July, and you will once again be fighting for our freedom… Not from tyranny, oppression, or persecution… but from annihilation. RED SOX. We are fighting for our right to live. To exist. And should we win the day, the Fourth of July will no longer be known as an American holiday, but as the day the world declared in one voice: “We will not go quietly into the night!” We will not vanish without a fight! We’re going to live on! We’re going to survive! SCUMPILES. Today we celebrate our Independence Day!
I think it’s awfully dangerous to say things like, “Mo’s human, he blew it,” simply because this wasn’t a situation in which he just blew it. He’d thrown two innings the night before–again, in a tie game on the road–and he’s, well, OLD. He had no command whatsoever tonight, and that–not a dip in velocity–is the true indicator of fatigue. Also, yes, it’s true, Rivera’s thrown fewer innings than usual at this time of the season. But this is indicative of nothing. He has been hurt, and the RHYTHM of his appearances has been odd; a week will go by when he is not used at all, and then, last night and tonight. If it were 1999, that would be one thing. But it’s 2010. The man’s getting up there, and he really needs to be watched. Last night was the problem. Bad managing, that’s all I’ll say.
# CR9 September 12th, 2010 at 2:33 am
Can someone – in their long posts about what they think is wrong with the Yankees – PLEASE mention the umpires??
PLEASE??
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“Umpires.” Don’t know all their names though ! J/K
They’re part of the game too, for all teams, not just Yanks.
“We’ll see if any of this craziness carries over to the playoffs.”
See – that is what everyone is missing. Girardi isin’t going to manage like this in the playoffs. He isin’t going to rest A-Rod randomly. He’s not going to use Gaudin in the 6th inning with a lead. He’s not going to use Joba in the 8th.
Yes, he might overuse MO in the playoffs, but it’s out of necessity. Would you rather see MO on fumes or Joba/Mitre/Gaudin in an extra inning playoff game?
When he has all his horses and is getting length from his guys, he has proven he knows how to manage a pen well.
The craziness he is showing now is not going to present itself in the playoffs. Everyone talked about how he loves Joba and how he is back in the circle of trust – yet who did he go to tonight in the 8th? I think yesterday, he favored Joba over Phil, not that Joba was back in his circle of trust.
As CB pointed out, in the long haul, our fate is not going to be determined by management of the team. He is not going to use his 2nd rate arms in the postseason to protect leads, nor rest anyone.
It’s going to be interesting to see how Girardi handles the next 3 weeks. Swish, Jeter and now Gardner are all hurting and need time off. The starting pitchers not named CC average 5 innings per start and the bullpen is probably on fumes right now. Arod is coming off an injury so he will get a day here and there. I wonder if resting guys to make sure they aren’t on fumes entering the play offs is the way that Girardi will go. Since it definitely doesn’t seem like he is managing right now to win the division anyway. It will be interesting to see if Arod plays tomorrow.
Girardi was horribly jumpy in the playoffs last year and he was killed for it by everyone in baseball. Geez. He was overmanaging to the hilt — that’s his forte. His overthinking everything is killing the guys.
Mo didn’t just “blow it” — I agree. His location is only off when 1) he hasn’t pitched in ages and 2) when he’s been over-used. Those two things have nothing to do with Mo and everything to do with managment.
And whoever said he was “psyched out” obviously doesn’t know Mo.
The umpires have the largest effect on the Yankees. It’s so clear and simple to see. Yes, the umpires affect all teams, but they affect the Yankees more than any other team. There is absolutely no doubt. They cheated us out of both these games. Yes, Mariano didnt have it tonight. But we would never have been in that position if once again, our batters and pitchers weren’t cheated all night.
This happens too often, and nobody cares. Nobody cares, nobody but me and a select few others in my personal life that I have influenced with years of complaining. I really dont want it to take years of complaining before you all catch on.
You are all Yankees fans; it’s time you realize what the umpires are and what their goals are.
Something needs to be done about these people, whether it be some sort of picket against them, or some sort of petition.
How about a video documenting, the 200, 000 bad calls that have gone against us this season being sent to MLB offices and perhaps to a prominent lawyer that could sue MLB for cheating us.
Something needs to be done. Anything needs to be done. They can no longer be allowed to get away with the corruption that they practice nearly every night.
It just cant happen any longer
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Prepare for a lot of Moseley and Mitre on Sunday, with a helping of Joba as the potential closer.
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How great that looks like a receipe for success…Joba in the 9th inning…
“David Ortiz struck out looking at a fastball that was well off the outside corner.
I thought so when I saw it and pitch f/x confirmed it. Ortiz said a bunch of things after the game that I can’t print here.
Such is the way it’s going for the Sox.”
Pete Abe
There’s a “professional” who has no problem complaining about umpires – and putting the blame where it belongs.
I agree that there are some bad umpires. But the umps are really out the team’s control. They can only focus on what THEY can do to improve.
trisha – true pinstriped blue September 11th, 2010 at 9:45 pm
– my first and last political comment. Agree, and I voted for him.
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Since you’ve publicly stated in the past that you are a Catholic, perhaps since the time of your Obama vote, you were able to form your conscience according to the teachings of the Church and realized that you erred gravely in your vote for him? By no means a judgment statement, because you’re certainly not the [i]only[/i] Catholic to vote for a pro-abortion candidate, but as fellow Catholics, it is our obligation to point out these extremely important matters of our faith to those (Catholic or not) that may be thus ignorant.
Glad to hear you regret your vote even though you didn’t state why. Nor is this really the place, and was only compelled to respond due to you publicly stating on this blog that you are a Catholic.
Pax