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Pettitte planning to return in Baltimore

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Sep 11, 2010 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Clearly energized and encouraged by Thursday’s start in Trenton, Andy Pettitte said he will pitch for the Thunder on the road Tuesday. He will return to the Yankees rotation on Sunday in Baltimore.

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74 Responses to “Pettitte planning to return in Baltimore”

  1. Carl September 11th, 2010 at 5:08 pm

    Great news

  2. Tom in N.J. September 11th, 2010 at 5:13 pm

    :grin:

  3. Betsy September 11th, 2010 at 5:13 pm

    Great news. What a shame he missed the greater part of the season as Andy was having his best season, but if he’s healthy, he can still end up being a huge contributor.

  4. Bret The Hitman September 11th, 2010 at 5:18 pm

    Jeter is turning into Nomar.

    I hope he’s willing to take 8-12 million per season.

  5. SAS September 11th, 2010 at 5:24 pm

    Doreen,

    You always say things so well and with a sense of humor.

    ==================================

    Great News about Andy. He will give the team a boost.

  6. sunny615 September 11th, 2010 at 5:27 pm

    That’s awesome! Thank you!

    Thank goodness Jeter is resting too. He needs another week off too.

  7. Pat M. September 11th, 2010 at 5:29 pm

    Warm night in Texas could be exactly what AJ needs to get back on track………I took the field vs. Fedderer, it would be sweet if he goes down tonight….Although Rafal kicking his tail tomorrow would be outstanding……

  8. Jacob Ruppert September 11th, 2010 at 5:32 pm

    @Pat M. You been following tennis for a long time? History would be made if Nadal and Federer face each other in the Finals.

  9. Tar September 11th, 2010 at 5:32 pm

    LGY

    Good post earlier.

    As an aside, do you think Joe would be “prioritizing getting everyone healthy and ready for the postseason” if the Sox were still mathematically in it? ( I know what we all think realistically)

    There is a Big difference between playing for the post-season and playing for HFA.

    I bring it up because that’s exactly what my point was in hoping the Rays bury the Sox a week or so ago. If they were still hanging around, Joe would not have the luxury.

  10. Doreen September 11th, 2010 at 5:33 pm

    SAS -

    Thanks. :)

    Betsy -

    Man it sure stinks about Andy. He was on his way to 20 wins easy!!!

    Well, all that matter is the last 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 or 6. Or whatever. (I was thinking of the regular season, but then I realized we need him to do well in the post-season too!)

    Pat M -

    You sure are a bettin’ man! :lol:

  11. clownthrowindown September 11th, 2010 at 5:34 pm

    Nomar fell apart quickly and its exactly the same with Jeter. Probably worse for Nomar because he was better than Jeter those years in Boston and then just hit the wall.

  12. Doreen September 11th, 2010 at 5:36 pm

    LGY -

    What is your stand on HFA?

    I think in baseball it’s over-rated unless you get to game 7. (Anyway, that’s my feeling in a nutshell. I usually wax more poetic, but, want to get down to brass tacks.)

  13. Pat M. September 11th, 2010 at 5:36 pm

    Jacob Ruppert…Started playing tennis when I was 10…..I still think it was tennis that killed my knees and hips, not so much baseball……Moving to So. Cal only accelerated the process, as you play sports all year round

  14. Jacob Ruppert September 11th, 2010 at 5:37 pm

    Nadal will win. He is just too dominant now. Nadal is the healthiest that he has ever been. Even when his opposition has an advantage in a point, it does not really matter, as Nadal has such powerful ground strokes.

  15. ac1 September 11th, 2010 at 5:37 pm

    can people stop acting like jeter is going to be forced to accept 8-10 M/year?? Jeter will get somewhere between 15-20 for either 3-4 years. Yankees will not get into a contract issue with him.

  16. Robin September 11th, 2010 at 5:37 pm

    # clownthrowindown September 11th, 2010 at 5:34 pm

    Nomar fell apart quickly and its exactly the same with Jeter. Probably worse for Nomar because he was better than Jeter those years in Boston and then just hit the wall.
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    Nomar shouldn’t have used all those steroids.

  17. Ruby Tuesday September 11th, 2010 at 5:38 pm

    I see Notre Dame coming back to beat Michigan.

  18. ac1 September 11th, 2010 at 5:38 pm

    Nomar fell apart quickly and its exactly the same with Jeter. Probably worse for Nomar because he was better than Jeter those years in Boston and then just hit the wall
    __

    jeter had a career year last year. im going to need more than one season to write jeter off as being done.

  19. GreenBeret7 September 11th, 2010 at 5:39 pm

    Nomar fell apart quickly and its exactly the same with Jeter. Probably worse for Nomar because he was better than Jeter those years in Boston and then just hit the wall.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    Hitting the wall would certainly explain Garciaparra’s nose. Will you be around spewing your stupidity here all night or will you be slithering back under your rock in Boston?

  20. Jacob Ruppert September 11th, 2010 at 5:40 pm

    @Pat M Tennis is by far the best sport to play. Anybody that plays tennis is a very smart person. Shame about your knees and hips.

  21. stuart a September 11th, 2010 at 5:41 pm

    why would anyone sign jeter to a 4 year contract.

    look at his numbers einstein……………….

  22. stuart a September 11th, 2010 at 5:41 pm

    nomar or ramon is the poster boy for steroid use and jeter has always been better.

  23. P September 11th, 2010 at 5:46 pm

    Jeter -

    Well, all year I have been watching him and he just doesn’t seem or look like he feels well. The bags under his eyes are obvious that he is not looking healthy. Maybe that is extreme, but he sure looks tired all the time. Sure he is getting older, but something just doesn’t seem right with the Capt. I sure hope he’s okay.

  24. Betsy September 11th, 2010 at 5:47 pm

    Doreen, he really was………….and a 20 win season could have helped his HOF chances. Either way, he’s been sorely missed in many ways.

  25. clownthrowindown September 11th, 2010 at 5:48 pm

    GB7,

    Nomar was better (in Boston) – just look at the stats. Its a fact fanboy so shut up unless you can show me where Jeter hit for average and power like Nomar did those years. Arod was better than both of them. Or do you think Jeter was a better SS than him too?

    Far and away, Jeter had a better career than Nomar and was a huge contributor in the playoffs every year. I’m not comparing them like that. I’m just pointing out that Nomar’s fall was even uglier than Jeter’s putrid play this year.

  26. Doreen September 11th, 2010 at 5:49 pm

    Betsy -

    That quote by CC was very telling. I mean, he’s so battle-tested on the NY Yankees, for crying out loud! To here CC say that Andy was the leader of that staff. It is no coincidence that the problems with the starting pitching started right about the time Andy went down. Whether it was his leadership or just his steady presence, it made a difference.

  27. SAS September 11th, 2010 at 5:50 pm

    Betsy,

    Agree 100%

  28. BJK September 11th, 2010 at 5:51 pm

    stuart a September 11th, 2010 at 5:41 pm
    why would anyone sign jeter to a 4 year contract.

    look at his numbers einstein……………….

    —————————————————————————————————–

    Anyone wouldn’t. Just the Yankees. And they will.

  29. P September 11th, 2010 at 5:51 pm

    Jeter is an asset to any team he is on. Not only with his on field play but also in the clubhouse. He’s had a very bad season, no doubt about that.. In my book, he gets a pass this year regardless of the underlying issue being physical due to illness or age.

    To give Jeter 4 years 20+mil on any other team would be an outrage, but this is the Yankees.. they can reward him for everything he has done for them and not break a sweat. Does it make sense compared to other contracts in the market? Probably not, but it’s really okay… seriously people.. it’s really okay. The yankees are a billion dollar enterprise. The Captain is going to get much much more than he deserves based on market value, count on that !

  30. SAS September 11th, 2010 at 5:51 pm

    I believe Andy is in Texas with the team.

  31. Betsy September 11th, 2010 at 5:55 pm

    Doreen, I think Andy’s presence has been missed, but I don’t think his absence has a lot to do with AJ, Javy and Phil struggling.

  32. Betsy September 11th, 2010 at 5:57 pm

    SAS, it will be nice to see Andy out on that mound again, giving his famous glare from under the cap……………He’s amazing pitcher because he somehow finds a way to battle his way too good/decent results even when he has nothing.

  33. Doreen September 11th, 2010 at 6:03 pm

    Betsy -

    Maybe not individually; but the staff as a whole. The “vibe” is different, for lack of better terminology.

  34. SAS September 11th, 2010 at 6:06 pm

    Betsy,

    When Andy decides to hand them up, I will really miss him. He is just a good guy. I missed him when he played for the Astros. He has been a favorite of mine from the beginning.

    I thought I would miss Mussina, but I don’t. He just didn’t have the personality.

  35. Betsy September 11th, 2010 at 6:08 pm

    Doreen, he pushes everyone back a slot and yes, it does feel different with Andy here. Still, I don’t think we can assume those who are struggling will pick it up simply because Andy’s back. In any case, I wonder who will be taken out of the rotation upon Andy’s return. Phil? Possibly. Nova? I don’t think so. AJ? No. Javy? I think he’s the most likely one.

  36. SAS September 11th, 2010 at 6:09 pm

    P,

    $80 million is a lot of money to pay a player who may not make it 4 years. The Yankees can always resign if he can go that long.

    As far as money is concerned, I wouldn’t mind having Jeter’s fortune.

  37. Jacob Ruppert September 11th, 2010 at 6:09 pm

    @Doreen I believe “vibe” is the correct word. With Pettitte in the rotation, it makes the whole staff look and feel a lot better.

  38. Betsy September 11th, 2010 at 6:10 pm

    SAS, it will be a sad day when none of the core 4 are here anymore. I guess no matter how hard they fight it, they can’t beat father time – although they’ve done a damn good job against that old man. Andy’s been a real mensch……………….his years in Houston seem like a dream because it doesn’t seem like he was ever gone. He was, though, and #65 is living proof.

  39. LGY September 11th, 2010 at 6:13 pm

    Tar,

    I think Girardi is very cautious by nature. Even if the Red Sox “statiscally” had a huge uphill climb, if the number of games back didn’t look all that daunting Joe would be pressing on the pedal harder. I understood that point of view in terms of the Rays/Sox series in big reason because of how I think Girardi would handle the situation. However, I was rooting for the Sox, because even if they gained ground that weekend, I didn’t see them hanging in there for much longer. I figured given the talent on that team, injuries, etc. at some point it would catch up to them. Them being out of it would have just come a week or 2 later IMO. I do think though that it is always a very nice luxury to be basically positive you are making the postseason and I think it is particularly important for this ballclub given the injuries/age.

    Doreen,

    I think fans generally really overrate HFA when it comes to baseball. CB laid out the pure statistical advantage you gain from about a week or two ago, and I think many fans believe the percentage advantage is much larger. There have been many studies on HFA and many articles tracking teams with or without HFA and while it helps, it is far down the list in terms of difference makers in October baseball. People get caught up in the home/away splits way too much every season.

    Then there is the whole question of if you end up even reaping the rewards of HFA, because many series do not go their full distance. The Yankees didn’t have a game 5 or 7 last season on their way to winning the WS. It is very possible HFA doesn’t play any role in the playoffs for the Yankees this season.

    I have actually wondered at times if I prefer to be the “away team” in 7 game series. I feel that if you are the away team and you can split the first 2 games, suddenly you are in the drivers seat. Just have to win 1 the first 2 and its a very positive outcome. Then you get to go home for 3 straight games. 3 straight at home is very nice come playoff time IMO.

    Take 1 of the first 2 on the road. Win 2 of 3 at home. Then just have to win one more game. Not a bad setup IMO. I think Jerkface has mentioned this before as well.

    I actually said during the ASG that Girardi had a master plan! CC is by far their best hitter for a pitcher so game 1 of the WS the Yankees could have an advantage there playing in an NL park :)

  40. Jerkface September 11th, 2010 at 6:14 pm

    Jeter is an asset to any team he is on. Not only with his on field play but also in the clubhouse. He’s had a very bad season, no doubt about that.. In my book, he gets a pass this year regardless of the underlying issue being physical due to illness or age.

    To give Jeter 4 years 20+mil on any other team would be an outrage, but this is the Yankees.. they can reward him for everything he has done for them and not break a sweat. Does

    Didn’t they already reward him by making him the highest paid short stop in the game???? Didn’t they reward him by not moving his position when they traded for an even better short stop??? You don’t get EXTRA rewarded. And its not like Jeter is ‘great in the clubhouse’. Remember when he no commented instead of defending his teammates amidst scandal or at times when other teams took shots?

    Everyone has said Posada is the vocal captain of the yankees. Jeter is some sort of silent, lead by example captain, which means he is too scared and or cognizant of making a media misstep that might jeopardize his image.

  41. BBFan September 11th, 2010 at 6:17 pm

    How civil the discussion has been this thread and last couple of threads.
    I wonder why? Who is missing? :)

  42. Carl September 11th, 2010 at 6:18 pm

    Man what a great game this Padres and Giants game was. Game ending strike em out throw em out double play.

  43. raymagnetic September 11th, 2010 at 6:28 pm

    “Didn’t they already reward him by making him the highest paid short stop in the game????”

    Technically they made him the second highest paid shortstop in the game.

    “And its not like Jeter is ‘great in the clubhouse’. Remember when he no commented instead of defending his teammates amidst scandal or at times when other teams took shots?”

    Unless you’re in the clubhouse with the team you have no clue about how he is in the clubhouse.

  44. SAS September 11th, 2010 at 6:32 pm

    BBFan,

    There are a number of civil and nice people who post here. They simply get shut out by the jerks. I like to chat when they are missing.

    There are ways of expressing opposing opinions with being mean, snide and demeaning.

  45. m September 11th, 2010 at 6:39 pm

    LGY,

    Nice post in the other thread.

    SAS,

    Nice right arrow emoticon. :)

  46. Phil in Columbus September 11th, 2010 at 6:41 pm

    Great tennis on right now. Federer 5-5 in final set.

  47. BBFan September 11th, 2010 at 6:42 pm

    “Unless you’re in the clubhouse with the team you have no clue about how he is in the clubhouse.”

    It does not have to be what happened in the clubhouse.
    As a Captain he as has an obligation to his teammates but raley comes forward.

    For example, recently when Damon cricitized Gardner about the play at 2nd base during the steal, others defennded Gardner, but the Captain was MIA.
    I like Jeter a lot as a player, but as a Captain he did not live upto it. Another example, he spoke up for Giambi but he let his personal vendetta agianst A-Rod and did not defend him.

  48. mick September 11th, 2010 at 6:42 pm

    Don’t understand why Grandy isn’t batting 2nd.
    They looked good together at the top of the order last week, Gardy and Grandy.
    Swish can’t run.
    Maybe it’s because Texas has 25 lefties in the pen.

  49. ZachA September 11th, 2010 at 6:42 pm

    Sweet! I bought tickets for that Sunday game a month ago. :D

  50. BBFan September 11th, 2010 at 6:44 pm

    SAS,

    I know.
    I was just making fun at the folks who make the threads miserable with thier incessent whining and bitc*hing.

  51. Jacob Ruppert September 11th, 2010 at 6:44 pm

    Depending on the moneyline for Nadal/Djokovic tomorrow, I will be putting quite a lot of money on Nadal. No way Nadal loses.

  52. Ruby Tuesday September 11th, 2010 at 6:45 pm

    Nothing going right these days for Jeter — even his alma mater is heading toward a loss. :(

  53. SAS September 11th, 2010 at 6:45 pm

    m,

    It is the only emoticon I know. It is colon, the word arrow, colon.

  54. mick September 11th, 2010 at 6:46 pm

    :arrow:

    just wanted to try that…..no new thread, sorry

  55. SAS September 11th, 2010 at 6:47 pm

    Ruby,

    Jeter never went to Michigan. He went right to baseball. Michigan is where his heart lies.

  56. raymagnetic September 11th, 2010 at 6:47 pm

    “It does not have to be what happened in the clubhouse.”

    But that’s what I was responding to. How Jeter is in the clubhouse. Not how he is with the media.

  57. m September 11th, 2010 at 6:48 pm

    That’s pretty funny. Alma mater. Where did Ruby go to school? BC?

  58. SAS September 11th, 2010 at 6:50 pm

    No, BU…lol

  59. Doreen September 11th, 2010 at 6:51 pm

    LGY -

    Just finished the dinner routine (cook, eat, clean-up) and so just read your response on HFA.

    YES!!! Someone who gets it!!! Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!

    :lol:

  60. SAS September 11th, 2010 at 6:52 pm

    Mick,

    There was a whole emoticon lesson on here one day before the season, but I forget it. Dinner time

  61. Ruby Tuesday September 11th, 2010 at 6:54 pm

    “In the Fall of 1992, Derek Jeter briefly attended the University of Michigan, before leaving school in the Spring of 1993 to play for the Yankees’ Class-A team in Tampa.”

  62. Crash September 11th, 2010 at 6:56 pm

    Jeter contract is a little tricky. A shortstop at his age hitting 260-270 is probably worth 5-8 million per year. No way the yanks would offer him that because he is Jeter. But they would be silly to offer him 20 million a year. Yanks already gave Jeter a great deal and it was well worth it. I would probably hope he would sign to maybe 3-4 years at 15 million per. I think that is pretty fair for both sides. What other team in baseball would pay an aging SS 15 million per year.

  63. Doreen September 11th, 2010 at 6:57 pm

    Hey! the “other guy” won the tennis match!!! :)

  64. raymagnetic September 11th, 2010 at 6:57 pm

    Alma Mater

    –noun
    1.
    a school, college, or university at which one has studied and, usually, from which one has graduated

  65. Ruby Tuesday September 11th, 2010 at 6:57 pm

    Jeter weeping in locker room.

  66. Phil in Columbus September 11th, 2010 at 7:00 pm

    I believe Derek told George he had to take off his OSU ring when he gave him his WS 27 ring.

  67. Rich in NJ September 11th, 2010 at 7:02 pm

    BIG AL September 11th, 2010 at 3:15 pm
    Rich in NJ – If you followed the Yankees for as long as I have, and been to functions where he and Billy Martin attended, you would not question Stick having a drinking problem.
    __

    Al, given the anonymity of the internet, no one has any idea of who you are or what your basis of knowledge is about anything that can’t be documented.

    As such, I think it’s distasteful, to put it mildly, that you would post that.

  68. Carl September 11th, 2010 at 7:02 pm

    :idea:

  69. 108 stitches September 11th, 2010 at 7:06 pm

    Jeter’s next contract will also contain a personal services clause. Can’t see him playing while he’s in his 40′s.
    $20M per through the year 2013.

  70. Doreen September 11th, 2010 at 7:10 pm

    Betsy -

    No, I don’t know what the other guys will do once Pettitte returns to the rotation. But, I do know that if Pettitte returns healthy and effective, then you have one more pitcher behind whom the other players feel pretty confident. I count Hughes among that group – CC, Andy, Hughes – but I know not everyone does – that’s not my argument right now. So that’s either 2 or 3 days out of 5 where the team feels pretty confident that the pitcher is going to battle and give them a real chance of winning.

    It takes the pressure off the other guys who have been less confidence inducing to be perfect.

    So, you never know what can happen.

    Anyway, having Andy will be great.

    I think it will be between Javy and Nova as to who gets skipped. But Hughes innings limits makes it interesting.

    I don’t care as long as whoever is pitching pitches well.

  71. 108 stitches September 11th, 2010 at 7:10 pm

    Ruby Tuesday September 11th, 2010 at 6:57 pm
    Jeter weeping in locker room.
    …………………………………

    White flag hanging from Pesky Pole. Lockers half cleaned out now and ready for an early exit on October 3rd.

  72. Melk Man September 11th, 2010 at 7:11 pm

    How about we PAY Jeter TO retire?

    $20 million for 3 years, with money differed in exchange for retirement.

  73. Doreen September 11th, 2010 at 7:14 pm

    Melkman -

    YOu have $20 million for 3 years????

  74. SAS September 11th, 2010 at 7:33 pm

    Melk Man,

    Jeter never needs to play another man to make him super rich. Not only has earned $20 million for the last number of years, but all his commercials and stuff. And, he lives in FL which has no state taxes.

    Therefore, you give him a shorter contract with options. They can always sign him after 2 or 3 years for another year or 2.

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