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Royce Ring: Late addition who could stick around

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Sep 16, 2010 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Ring, Royce 1169 (schofield)Royce Ring was home in San Diego. He was taking his six-month-old baby girl — the one who was born during spring training — to a routine checkup on Tuesday when he got a call from his agent. The Yankees had tried to get in touch with Ring, and he hadn’t answered.

Four days earlier, Ring had wrapped up one of the finest minor league seasons of his career, but he’d given up the idea of joining the Yankees when a second round of September call-ups came and went. Ring told himself that his .202 opponents batting average against lefties would at least help him earn a good job for next year.

Brian Cashman told him he wasn’t finished with this year just yet.

“He said, ‘What time do you want to leave tomorrow?’” Ring said. “I said, ‘As early as you can get me out.’”

That meant a 6:20 flight to Atlanta, a connection to Tampa and a chance to play a role well into October.

Last year the Yankees had Damaso Marte and Phil Coke in the playoffs. Marte was positively dominant as their late-innings left-handed reliever, and Coke was good through the first two rounds.

This year, the Yankees have learned to lean on Boone Logan, but Ring has a little more than two weeks to make them think about carrying a second lefty in the playoffs. He could easily be more valuable than an extra position player or extra long reliever, but that’s assuming he passes what seems to be a down-the-stretch audition.

As the Yankees saw this week, Tampa Bay is willing to put three straight lefties in their lineup against a right-handed starter (though they’re also willing to pinch hit Sean Rodriguez or Willy Aybar if a lefty comes in from the pen). The Rangers have Josh Hamilton, Julio Borbon, David Murphy and Mitch Moreland getting regular playing time from the left side, and the Twins have Denard Span, Jason Kubel, Jim Thome, Joe Mauer and possibly Justin Morneau. Twins second baseman Orlando Hudson is generally worse against lefties than righties.

“It’s an awesome opportunity for me,” Ring said. “I’m hoping to make the most of it and help them out. Obviously they’re pushing for the playoffs, and if I can help them out in any way, that’s what I’m going to try to do.”

Photo of Ring from my friends at the Scranton Times-Tribune

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160 Responses to “Royce Ring: Late addition who could stick around”

  1. Chambliss September 16th, 2010 at 4:38 pm

    Nice story. Should have been pitching to Johnson in the 7th last night.

  2. Chad Jennings September 16th, 2010 at 4:42 pm

    Thing is, he wouldn’t have been pitching to Johnson in that situation. If Ring came in, the Rays would have pinch hit Willy Aybar like they did on Monday.

  3. Patrick September 16th, 2010 at 4:44 pm

    If Ring can come in a few times and get some lefties out I’d definitely take him on the roster. Basically here is what is locked in:

    (2) Catchers: Posada, Cervelli
    (6) Infielders: Teixeira, Cano, Jeter, Rodriguez, Berkman, Pena
    (5) Outfielders: Swisher, Granderson, Gardner, Kearns, Thames
    (4) Starters: Sabathia, Pettitte, Hughes, Burnett
    (6) Relievers: Rivera, Wood, Robertson, Logan, Chamberlain, Vazquez

    So that leaves 2 spots open with the following players having shots at making it:

    Position players: Golson, Nunez
    Pitchers: Nova, Moseley, Mitre, Gaudin, Ring

    I think the Yanks need another long man, especially with Burnett starting so I take Nova. For my second choice it comes down to Golson or Ring. Golson can play defense and run. Ring can get lefties out. Tough choice but I think Ring is probably more valuable.

  4. MTU September 16th, 2010 at 4:46 pm

    JCPD-

    If you’re still around I sent you an e-mail.

  5. Nick in SF September 16th, 2010 at 4:47 pm

    I am also a Yankee fan on the west coast and I accept free wine.

    Looks like it got a little chippy in the previous thread with more insults flying.

    Let’s all be thankful that no one was called a toil, a drudgery, or a British slang term for cigarettes.

  6. Yankee Trader September 16th, 2010 at 4:49 pm

    Remind me again. What measures would have to be taken to allow Royce Ring to be eligible for the playoffs? Thought players added to the active roster, unless on DL, after September 1st are not eligible.

  7. SAS September 16th, 2010 at 4:50 pm

    Patrick,

    I think they need a 2nd long reliever. Who would you choose? I am torn between Mosely and Nova. Then do they need/want a Golson or Nunez or the 2nd lefty in Ring, who hasn’t thrown a pitch yet.

  8. SAS September 16th, 2010 at 4:51 pm

    They can replace Marte because of 60 day DL.

  9. Chad Jennings September 16th, 2010 at 4:52 pm

    Cashman has already said Ring could be added to the playoff roster. Teams are allowed to add players as replacements for injuries. Essentially, the Yankees can claim Ring is taking Marte’s place. It’s the same thing they did with Freddy Guzman last year.

  10. Bronx Jeers September 16th, 2010 at 4:53 pm

    British slang for cigarette is also “a bundle of sticks”

    I know this because writing “Mr. Ventura is a bundle of sticks” on the blackboard got me in a bit of trouble back in the 6th grade.

  11. Laura - I Bleed Blue September 16th, 2010 at 4:54 pm

    Is anyone else shocked by MIN’s record? All this w/o Morneau and Nathan.

  12. Patrick September 16th, 2010 at 4:54 pm

    SAS,

    I’d pick Nova as I noted in my previous post. Vazquez and Nova would be a pretty good duo as long relievers. If worst comes to worst and A.J. craps the bed you have two very quality pitchers backing him up.

    I pick Golson over Nunez because there isn’t really a defensive replacement option in the OF without him. For example, what if Swisher’s knee starts acting up and he is a liability defensively? Golson would be a good late game replacment there. For the infield we already have Pena. I also think Golson might be faster than Nunez.

    I wouldn’t pick Ring to make the team unless he can come in and get some outs over the next few weeks. If he can, I like having a second lefty in the pen and I’d probably go with more pitching rather than a 6th outfielder.

  13. Bronx Jeers September 16th, 2010 at 4:55 pm

    SAS,

    How old is your oldest?

    I could very well be older than him/her as I’m quite immature for my age. :wink:

  14. Cashman needs to go September 16th, 2010 at 4:56 pm

    Laura – I Bleed Blue September 16th, 2010 at 4:54 pm
    Is anyone else shocked by MIN’s record? All this w/o Morneau and Nathan.

    ********************

    I think playing the royals, indians and to some extent the tigers about 60 times this year may have something to do with that…also they had Cy Pavano carrying them on his broad shoulders all year :-(

  15. Nick in SF September 16th, 2010 at 4:57 pm

    Robin Vetura deserved better.

  16. Chip September 16th, 2010 at 4:58 pm

    Sounds like the Yankee coaching staff may get raided heavily if you are listening to Heyman:

    Tony Pena is the favorite for the Marlins
    Robbie Thomson in the running for Toronto

    With that in mind, and with Torre leaving the Dodgers and Tim Wallach likely to get that job would Donnie Ballgame return to the Bronx to work on Joe’s staff?

    I highly doubt it – For much the same reason Mattingly left when Girardi got the job I don’t think he would come back now. I think if Torre doesn’t manage next year, Mattingly’s best bet is to join Buck’s crew in Baltimore (I also think Brian Butterfield could wind up there).

    I think we can also rule out Willie coming in to work for Girardi

    So who would replace Pena and Robbie?

    I could see them elevating Butch Wynager from Scranton to work at 1b – and move Mick to 3b – the reason being all the work he’s done this year with Montero.

    They could also give long time AAA manager Dave Miley a promotion to work on Girardi’s bench.

    If they opted to go outside the organization my choices would be:

    AJ Hinch, Lee Mazzilli or Trey Hillman for Bench
    Mike Gallego or Larry Bowa for 3b (though I think Bowa has burned his bridges here)

    The other coaching move I would do, if LaRussa retires, I would throw whatever it takes at Dave Duncan – not to serve as the Yankee pitching coach, but to serve as an organizational pitching coordinator – the role currently held by Nardi Contreras.

    Let Duncan base himself out of Tampa and work with the pitching coaches at the various levels to set up plans for the top pitching prospects. Work closely with those prospects during the winter and spring and then during the season travel to the various clubs to continue working the plan.

    If Duncan can make guys like Looper, Loshe, Piniero and Penny decent pitchers I would love to see what he can do with talented guys like Brackman, Betances, Banuelos, Phelps, Mitchell etc.

  17. SAS September 16th, 2010 at 4:58 pm

    Patrick,

    I didn’t see your previous post. I love Nova so far. I think I agree about Golson too especially without so many slow pokes, and he does have a good arm. I am not enamored with Kearns. I hope he starts to change my mind. I truly thought he would hit better.

  18. 108 stitches September 16th, 2010 at 5:00 pm

    The Yankees will need to mix and match against most lineups as has been seen on many occasions.
    The Yankees can use every advantage available. If Burnett or any other pitcher has a strugging outing and Boone Logan has been used before the 8th inning, another lefthander will be appreciated.
    The playoffs involve a different pitching strategy……. more of a sense of urgency than the regular season. The Rays for example, will have only Randy Choate to use as the lone LH in the bullpen. That’s risky. The Rangers and Twins have more than one LH out of the pen.
    If Royce Ring pitches well for in the times he’s used for the remaining 16 games, he’s more valuable than Vasquez, Mitre, or Gaudin can be. I trust Mosely to be the long reliever if needed.
    Ring takes the place of Damaso Marte on the playoff rosters.

  19. hardwired7 September 16th, 2010 at 5:01 pm

    it seemed a little nuts that even in September the Yanks had only one lefty in the pen.

    I think Toronto had four lefty relievers in the last series they played. the Yanks had Boone Logan and crickets chirping.

    Royce Ring should have been given a look earlier.

  20. Cashman needs to go September 16th, 2010 at 5:02 pm

    If kearns continues his stellar play both on offense and defense do you really think he’d warrant a spot on the P/S roster?

  21. LGY September 16th, 2010 at 5:02 pm

    Judging from last thread I guess trisha is not the lone “stick in the mud”

    Must be a New England thing.

  22. Patrick September 16th, 2010 at 5:04 pm

    I can see Pena being a really good manager. Thompson I’m not too sure about…

  23. Cashman needs to go September 16th, 2010 at 5:05 pm

    Hey who knows how this will play out but Tony Pena may be the Yankees manager next year ;-)

  24. RayVT September 16th, 2010 at 5:07 pm

    Patrick September 16th, 2010 at 4:44 pm

    Not sure Pena is a lock.

  25. Wave Your Hat September 16th, 2010 at 5:08 pm

    Despite the rights or wrongs of not calling up Ring sooner, I just can’t see the Yanks choosing to put a pitcher on the post-season roster who they evidently did not think worthy of a 25 man roster spot until mid-September.

    I suppose if Ring proceeds to retire every batter he faces between now and the end of the season, in crucial situations, that could change.

    But the Yanks tend to be very predictable in their roster moves.

  26. Chip September 16th, 2010 at 5:08 pm

    Patrick,

    Pena’s been a really good manager. He was manager of the year with KC in 2003

    Robbie is a very smart guy, a book guy much like Girardi.

  27. Wave Your Hat September 16th, 2010 at 5:09 pm

    Oops, I meant a call-up, not a 25 man roster spot.

  28. Patrick September 16th, 2010 at 5:11 pm

    Not sure Pena is a lock.

    In my opinion he is. He is a good defensive replacement, can bunt, has good speed. Nunez is average at best defensively. Unless there’s an injury, the backup infielder is not going to get any at-bats. If you take the offense out of the equation I think Pena is the better pick. Also, considering Pena has been on the roster for the entire year I think the Yankees value him more than Nunez.

  29. Jerkface September 16th, 2010 at 5:11 pm

    Duncan would ruin top prospects by making them spam 2 seamers and get away from their strike out pitch. See: Reyes

  30. Chip September 16th, 2010 at 5:11 pm

    Wave –

    I don’t know about that (the predictable part). I don’t think anyone would have guessed that Freddy Guzman would have been on the post season roster last year.

  31. Bronx Jeers September 16th, 2010 at 5:12 pm

    Pavano’s mustache is the most underrated facial hair in the majors this season.

    ———————————————

    I never cared for the name Robin for a male. A boy growing up with that name is liable to start smoking British cigarettes.

  32. stuart a September 16th, 2010 at 5:12 pm

    if ring could be prodcutive the ycan really use 2 lefties out of the pen……..

    kearns will make postseason roster probably but he should see very little or no action in a perfect world.

    lately kearns has been horrible……..

  33. Patrick September 16th, 2010 at 5:14 pm

    Chip,

    Yes I remember Pena with KC. I really like him, if for some reason Girardi left for Chicago I’d love for the Yanks to interview Pena again.

    I don’t know enough about Thompson to say whether he’d be a good manager or not, so I’ll refrain from making any conclusions there.

  34. Yankee Trader September 16th, 2010 at 5:14 pm

    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....8;c_id=mlb

    MLB article about making it tougher for the wild card to advance in the playoffs. If any of these ideas become enacted, then IMO, you need a balanced schedule and no interleague play.

  35. Vineyard Yankee September 16th, 2010 at 5:20 pm

    WCYF, Aldo the Ijit, Brad the Buffoon, Joses Taco Route, CommonFool, Iron Mike Tyson, TJ the Ninny, etc……..etc……………………………OMG, they are here under different handles ? ! Yikes ! Same old story, huh ?

  36. ET September 16th, 2010 at 5:21 pm

    Heyman said earlier that the Marlins want to interview Tony Pena… evidently, he is close with Edwin Rodriguez (who the Marlins want to keep around the organization).

  37. ET September 16th, 2010 at 5:22 pm

    oops, Chip beat me too it.

  38. Wave Your Hat September 16th, 2010 at 5:25 pm

    Kearns needs to hit so Granderson doesn’t have to face all the lefties.

    Of course needing to hit, and hitting, are two different things.

  39. Wave Your Hat September 16th, 2010 at 5:27 pm

    Pavano has outpitched AJ. I can’t stand it.

  40. Yank1 September 16th, 2010 at 5:32 pm

    Nice article by Sherman – basically echos what SJ has been saying:

    So if the Yankees essentially must employ co-starters to navigate 12-to-15 outs to stay in the game and get the ball to their best relievers, then Girardi is not going to worry about offending anyone. Forget feelings or tradition when the quest is a 28th championship.

    “I don’t disagree,” Brian Cashman said, when presented with this theory. But the Yankees GM quickly added that no postseason plans have been established when it comes to pitching strategy.

    http://www.nypost.com/p/sports.....z0zjMDIwxr

  41. martin-from-providence September 16th, 2010 at 5:39 pm

    Partick-

    I don’t think that Kearns is a lock to be on the post season roster. He hasn’t done much at the plate that I recall recently and he has struck out in many key ABs. He seems to swing and miss at the first pitch, takes the second pitch for a strike and swings and misses at the third pitch. When he swings, he doesn’t seem to come close to the ball. My sample size is small, so this might not be representative of Kearns. Golson would be a better bet as a fourth outfielder, imo. He is fast and has a great arm, but he doesn’t have as much power as Kearns.

  42. Betsy September 16th, 2010 at 5:39 pm

    Ring should have been up before. I’m sure he’s no great shakes, but having 1 lefty in the pen is not a good idea and we would have had more time to see if Ring was worth having on the post-season roster.

  43. Yankee Trader September 16th, 2010 at 5:41 pm

    Yank 1-

    Liked Sherman’s last line. “The formula is going to be CC and pray for a reign of relief.”

  44. BIG AL September 16th, 2010 at 5:42 pm

    Patrick September 16th, 2010 at 4:44 pm
    If Ring can come in a few times and get some lefties out I’d definitely take him on the roster. Basically here is what is locked in:

    (2) Catchers: Posada, Cervelli
    (6) Infielders: Teixeira, Cano, Jeter, Rodriguez, Berkman, Pena
    (5) Outfielders: Swisher, Granderson, Gardner, Kearns, Thames
    (4) Starters: Sabathia, Pettitte, Hughes, Burnett
    (6) Relievers: Rivera, Wood, Robertson, Logan, Chamberlain, Vazquez

    So that leaves 2 spots open with the following players having shots at making it:

    Position players: Golson, Nunez
    Pitchers: Nova, Moseley, Mitre, Gaudin, Ring

    I think the Yanks need another long man, especially with Burnett starting so I take Nova. For my second choice it comes down to Golson or Ring. Golson can play defense and run. Ring can get lefties out. Tough choice but I think Ring is probably more valuable.

    *************************************************
    Patrick – I agree with all your picks, except Kearns. First, he’s not hitting, and second, we have better defense with Golson. I’d rather see an extra pitcher, if not then take Nunez.

  45. Yankee Trader September 16th, 2010 at 5:45 pm

    Kearns has struck out 7 times in the last two games, many with players in scoring position and less than 2 outs. He appears to always be swinging for the fences. I’m hoping Granderson Gardner and Swisher go into the playoffs at 100% and Kearns is never needed.

  46. EA September 16th, 2010 at 5:46 pm

    There are 16 games left…. don’t know how much Ring can show. Especially now that we have to start winning some games again and might not try and use Ring in a big spot.

    He should have been up as soon as rosters expanded so he could have twice as many games to show what he has.

    We’ll see though. Would be nice to have a 2nd lefty… just wonder how much he can show in this limited time span.

  47. Betsy September 16th, 2010 at 5:46 pm

    I’m choosing not to read Sherman and I’m sure I’m all the happier for it.

    Golson has to make the post-season roster as he’s a perfect defensive replacement. That arm………….

  48. Wave Your Hat September 16th, 2010 at 5:49 pm

    “Golson has to make the post-season roster as he’s a perfect defensive replacement.”

    For who?

  49. BX33 September 16th, 2010 at 5:50 pm

    “Patrick – I agree with all your picks, except Kearns. First, he’s not hitting, and second, we have better defense with Golson. I’d rather see an extra pitcher, if not then take Nunez.

    Same. If Kearns is hitting like this, he serves no purpose. Also, if they plan on shortening games and going to the pen early, that extra pitcher will be valuable.

    I’d take Golson over Kearns and Ring (if he shows enough) + one of Nova, Mosely, Gaudin, Mitre.

  50. MTU September 16th, 2010 at 5:50 pm

    Off topic:

    Does anyone know who is pitching for Trenton in tonite’s playoff game ?

  51. Bronx Jeers September 16th, 2010 at 5:52 pm

    If the D-Backs can win a Series with Unit and the fatman then the Yanks can do it with CC and a Frankenstein of starters/longmen!

  52. pat September 16th, 2010 at 5:52 pm

    ?Golson has to make the post-season roster as he’s a perfect defensive replacement.?

    Would he need a loophole because he was a September call-up?

  53. Wave Your Hat September 16th, 2010 at 5:53 pm

    The Yanks have needed a second lefty since Marte went down.

    Ring has been pitching lights out at Scranton. Yet the Yanks did not call him up. Why?

    Perversity on the part of the Yanks? More likely the Yanks didn’t think he’d help more than the relievers they had.

    I just don’t see that view as likely to change.

  54. Betsy September 16th, 2010 at 5:55 pm

    Wave, just in case someone gets hurt………..I don’t know, all I know is that I was incredibly impressed with his arm.

  55. Yankee Trader September 16th, 2010 at 5:57 pm

    “During this ten game suckfest, the Yanks have stranded 85 of 106 total baserunners, or 80.2%. The MLB average is 72.1%, so this can’t last forever, right? Right?!? It really has been like Murphy’s Law on crack lately, anything that can go wrong does and then some.”

    The return of Gardner and Swisher to full time duty, and the benching of Kearns and Curtis should help. Of course getting Pettitte back and healthy while quickly building up his innings will be helpful.

  56. Wave Your Hat September 16th, 2010 at 5:57 pm

    Betsy-

    Can he hit? Frankly, that’s all I care about. Assuming Gardner and Swisher get back the OF defense will take care of itself. JMO.

  57. murphydog September 16th, 2010 at 5:58 pm

    Sorry I missed the “through the looking glass” performance of the usual lunatics who showed up last night to condemn Jeter’s “unethical” behavior. (Can you just imagine having the cubicle next to one of them? Frankly I’m amazed that there aren’t more workplace shootings).

    What’s next, Oh My Captain? Drowning kittens and puppies in a river with Minka on You Tube?

  58. Betsy September 16th, 2010 at 6:01 pm

    Wave, no – but who would you prefer?

  59. Wave Your Hat September 16th, 2010 at 6:05 pm

    Betsy, I’d take Kearns on the theory he might hit. He has in the past, so he might in the future.

    And an extra pitcher over Nunez, on the theory the Yanks may need multiple long men.

  60. murphydog September 16th, 2010 at 6:08 pm

    Wave Your Hat

    I would tend to agree with you. If KLong can get Kearns to shorten his swing, Kearns can hit. Golson on the other hand needs more than a tune-up with KLong before he will hit well enough to make a post season roster. And it’s not like the three regular OFs need to be replaced in late innings for defensive purposes. And yes, an extra pitcher over Nunez.

  61. Betsy September 16th, 2010 at 6:08 pm

    Wave, I thought Kearns was a given……………….

    I think we definitely need multiple long men given the state of our rotation

  62. Wave Your Hat September 16th, 2010 at 6:10 pm

    Gotta go. Bye!

  63. Jerkface September 16th, 2010 at 6:20 pm

    they dont need multiple long men in the playoffs.

  64. blake September 16th, 2010 at 6:24 pm

    let’s hope they don’t need any long men in the playoffs.

  65. SAS September 16th, 2010 at 6:28 pm

    Betsy,

    Are you getting this storm now? It has passed here

  66. Betsy September 16th, 2010 at 6:29 pm

    With our rotation we do……………

  67. Betsy September 16th, 2010 at 6:30 pm

    SAS, yep – and I want to go to the bookstore later, so I hope it passes quickly.

  68. MTU September 16th, 2010 at 6:30 pm

    Blake-

    Are you getting the Trenton game tonite ?

  69. blake September 16th, 2010 at 6:33 pm

    MTU,

    is the video online for Trenton tonight? Who is pitching

  70. GreenBeret7 September 16th, 2010 at 6:34 pm

    MTU, the Trenton game is on a free radio feed on MILB.com

  71. GreenBeret7 September 16th, 2010 at 6:35 pm

    No video of trento game. radio only

  72. MTU September 16th, 2010 at 6:37 pm

    Blake-

    Looks like GB just answered your question.

    GB-

    Thanks. I was wondering where you’ve been. How’s things going ? You’ve been kind of silent
    most of the day.

  73. GreenBeret7 September 16th, 2010 at 6:38 pm

    Here’s the link Realplayer works best if you have it.

    http://www.rider.edu/175_16702.htm

  74. blake September 16th, 2010 at 6:39 pm

    GB,

    Thanks…who is pitching for Trenton?

  75. West Coast Yankee Fan September 16th, 2010 at 6:40 pm

    Easy now…Golson made one great throw.

  76. SAS September 16th, 2010 at 6:42 pm

    The storms are supposed to pass almost immediately. Get the book called “The Help”. It is great.

  77. SAS September 16th, 2010 at 6:42 pm

    Betsy,

    The last thing said by me was for you

  78. GreenBeret7 September 16th, 2010 at 6:43 pm

    MTU, just too much BS and stupidity from the usual suspects for me to stomach, lately.

    Right now, the game is going to be delayed because of rain. Tarp on the field. 30 minutes to game time

  79. GreenBeret7 September 16th, 2010 at 6:47 pm

    Adam Warren is Trenton’s scheduled pitcher tonight

  80. Erica in NY September 16th, 2010 at 6:49 pm

    Wisdom from tonight’s fortune cookie-

    “Write injuries in dust, benefits in marble”

    Wonder if the fortune cookie is a Yankee fan

  81. The Other Phil September 16th, 2010 at 6:50 pm

    # murphydog September 16th, 2010 at 5:58 pm

    Sorry I missed the “through the looking glass” performance of the usual lunatics who showed up last night to condemn Jeter’s “unethical” behavior. (Can you just imagine having the cubicle next to one of them? Frankly I’m amazed that there aren’t more workplace shootings).

    What’s next, Oh My Captain? Drowning kittens and puppies in a river with Minka on You Tube?
    =============

    I wasn’t here either, so I can’t speak to what people may have been saying. I’m thinking that Chad’s prior post may have something to do with Jayson Stark’s innane ‘article’ on ESPN.com today, calling Jeter a cheater because he took the base.

    Yet, Pierzynski did the same thing earlier in the year (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpVAxhDrhNk) and countless players do this type of stuff all the time. It’s part of the game.

    I guess there’s more reason I hate ESPN.

  82. The Other Phil September 16th, 2010 at 6:51 pm

    Oops, sorry, it was actually Wallace Matthews. Same crappy sports ‘leader’, different schill.

  83. MTU September 16th, 2010 at 6:52 pm

    GB-

    I understand. Last night’s thread was otherworldly. SJ said it was the most Bizzaro thread he’s ever come across on the blog, and he’s been here since the inception. Wow.

    There were some good discussions earlier in the day about Hughes, etc. but I can certainly understand being turned off by some of the BS.

    The Moralizing over Jeter was putrid. He goes from Immortal to gutter slime in a microsecond, and all for something players do all of the time.

    It was a shock to some people’s system’s that people who wind up being idolized are sometimes less than perfect. Well. My take is. Welcome to the Human race. :)

  84. upstate kate September 16th, 2010 at 6:59 pm

    so this is what it is like when there isn’t a game thread…nice, peaceful, reasonable…hope I used my commas correctly Erica!

    good to see you GB

  85. Erica in NY September 16th, 2010 at 7:00 pm

    This is why off-days stink.

    If there was a game tonight, we would be over Jeter and complaining about the line up right now!

  86. GreenBeret7 September 16th, 2010 at 7:00 pm

    MTU September 16th, 2010 at 6:52 pm
    GB-

    I understand. Last night’s thread was otherworldly. SJ said it was the most Bizzaro thread he’s ever come across on the blog, and he’s been here since the inception. Wow.

    There were some good discussions earlier in the day about Hughes, etc. but I can certainly understand being turned off by some of the BS.

    The Moralizing over Jeter was putrid. He goes from Immortal to gutter slime in a microsecond, and all for something players do all of the time.

    It was a shock to some people’s system’s that people who wind up being idolized are sometimes less than perfect. Well. My take is. Welcome to the Human race.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    The Jeter play was rather funny, I thought. I’m sure that he would have preferred to get a hit, but, that’s not happening for him right now. above all, he just wanted to get on base. If four umpires missed it, blame them. I see no different from that to a hitter that leans into a pitch to get hit….you know, those gutty, scrappy players like David Eckstein. No different than the middle infielders that pull of the neighborhood plays, first basemen that pull their foot of the bag early to get the calls. Haven’t seen any infielders that know they made no tag on a base stealer turn themselves in.

  87. Erica in NY September 16th, 2010 at 7:01 pm

    Upstate Kate-

    Good comma use.

    Just don’t use the commas to use 15 words to tell me how stupid I am. LOL

  88. Erica in NY September 16th, 2010 at 7:02 pm

    new thrad :arrow:

    Yankees preliminary 2011 schedule

  89. GreenBeret7 September 16th, 2010 at 7:03 pm

    change a couple of “OF(s)” to “OFF”.

  90. upstate kate September 16th, 2010 at 7:04 pm

    yeah, I really don’t get all the controversy…unless people expect Jeter to be above that sort of thing!
    Maddon was fine w/ it, Shields said Jeter was classy for admitting to it. If it doesn’t bother the Rays, why should it bother anyone else?

  91. GreenBeret7 September 16th, 2010 at 7:05 pm

    What’s a “thrad”? If that short for “radical thread”?

  92. MTU September 16th, 2010 at 7:07 pm

    GB-

    That’s exactly my point. These things are all part of an imperfect game.

    Can you imagine the comedy of Jeter trying to tell the Ump he got it wrong ?

    “Hey ump, that ball didn’t really hit me. You and all the other umps only thought it did.”

    “You can’t award me 1st. You just can’t. ”

    How about that acting job by Posada a while back when he tagged the runner w/o even having the ball in his glove.

    Now that was quite a feat. That was hilarious.

  93. West Coast Yankee Fan September 16th, 2010 at 7:07 pm

    Green Beret that’s a bit of hyperbole don’t you think? No one said Jeter was gutter slime. It just wasn’t very Jeter like that’s all. Take your base and that’s it. No acting or ridiculous mea culpa’s in the locker room. He does have an image that is good for him and good for the Yankees. If that wasn’t the case, scores of the national media wouldn’t have been discussing it and basically saying the same thing. It was a valid topic and different people can have different opinions on it.

  94. TheStraw September 16th, 2010 at 7:10 pm

    Anyone who complains about that HBP shows incompetence with regard to the basic strategies of and philosophy of team sports at the pro level. Jeter doing what he did harmed arguably only one person- himself. If he comes clean, he let’s forty other guys down in the process.

  95. West Coast Yankee Fan September 16th, 2010 at 7:12 pm

    Straw – he did come clean.

  96. GreenBeret7 September 16th, 2010 at 7:17 pm

    “WCYF”, looks like another load of BS from you. It doesn’t “damage” his or the Yankees image. You can now climb back on your high horse, if there’s room. It must be getting pretty crowded up there. Now, just ride off to Mt Rushmore with the other moral conscience of baseball puritans. There’s a long line of those like you wanting your heads sculpted for posterity.

  97. Vineyard Yankee September 16th, 2010 at 7:23 pm

    GB, sounds like either you got a ‘burr’ in your saddle or is it just another bad day ?

  98. West Coast Yankee Fan September 16th, 2010 at 7:29 pm

    Anger issues Green Beret?

    I suppose the fact that almost the entire national sports/non-sports media was reporting this story and almost all were at least posing the question as to whether this would tarnish Jeter’s reputation is irrelevant because you said so. It must be a heavy burden to be the blog scold and moral potentate.

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