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Chinese youth baseball team visiting Yankee Stadium tonight

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Sep 22, 2010 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Here’s the announcement from the Yankees.

The New York Yankees announced today that players from the China Youth Baseball League (CYBL) who won the 28th Boys Nankyu World Championship Tournament in Tokyo in July will be honored at Yankee Stadium on Wednesday, September 22, as the people of China celebrate the Mid-Autumn Festival, the second-most significant holiday in China after the Chinese New Year holiday.

The visit is the latest effort by the Yankees to show their continued support for the growth of baseball in China. All arrangements for the visit have been made within the guidelines of the cooperation agreement between the Chinese Baseball Association (CBA) and the Yankees.

The championship-winning players are all members of the Beijing Xinxing Longren Baseball Club, which has given athletic and academic opportunities to children from severely disadvantaged rural and migrant-poor backgrounds, including many orphans. All of the children attend the nearby Dacheng School and receive room, board and training equipment.

“The date of the visit to Yankee Stadium is very significant as it is the holiday that tradition calls for the Chinese people to be with their parents,” said Kenneth Huang, Founder and Chairman of QSL Youth Sports Development Foundation, which is sponsoring the group’s visit. “These children, who do not have the opportunity to be with their parents, are able to live another dream — the dream of coming to the cathedral of baseball, Yankee Stadium, to see the team and the sport they love.”

The 2010 Nankyu Tournament, which featured 16 teams from 12 countries, was a milestone achievement for Chinese baseball, marking the first time in 11 years that a team from the CYBL had won an international championship. The rules of Nankyu are the same as the rules of baseball with one difference — the ball is made from rubberized material.

Beijing Xinxing Longren Program Director and Baseball Coach Wei Li will be joined by players Zichao Jiang (age 11), Zhenbei Bao (11), Kaiming Yin (11), Xiao Han (14), Renzeng Qiangba (9), and Jin Yang (11). Additionally, Secretary General Wei Shen will represent the Chinese Baseball Association.

The group is scheduled to watch Yankees batting practice from the field, followed by tours of Monument Park and the New York Yankees Museum presented by Bank of America. Before enjoying the Yankees’ game against the Tampa Bay Rays, the six players will receive the honor of throwing out ceremonial first pitches.

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107 Responses to “Chinese youth baseball team visiting Yankee Stadium tonight”

  1. MTU September 22nd, 2010 at 12:00 pm

    Way to go Yanks. Start your recruiting early. ;)

  2. Bronx Jeers September 22nd, 2010 at 12:07 pm

    Don’t get fooled China!

    You’ll only end up heartbroken like Taiwan and Japan.

  3. CountryClub September 22nd, 2010 at 12:08 pm

    In September things came to a head. Jeter went just 6 for 36 with two walks and two extra base hits in the month. His BABIP: .200. He was looking as poor as ever. During an extra innings game on September 10 in Texas Jeter went 1 for 7, and that seemed to be the breaking point. Joe Girardi gave him the next day off, during which he went to work with hitting instructor Kevin Long. The changes were subtle. Long had Jeter focus on striding straight forward rather than towards home plate. Try that at home; you’ll notice that you generate better bat speed when stepping straight forward. They also worked on the timing in Jeter’s front foot tap and his leg kick. But would these changes translate into results?

    The effect was almost immediately noticeable. Almost every Yankee looked poor against Cliff Lee the next day, but Jeter managed to put together four superb plate appearances that included two walks and an RBI double. Since then he has at least one hit in every game and is overall 14 for 45 with five walks and four doubles (.311/.396/.400). It might sound like something you can dismiss with a small sample size disclaimer, but the changes are noticeable in Jeter’s approach. His swings look more authoritative, and he’s putting the ball in the air more often.

    http://riveraveblues.com/2010/.....ate-35698/

  4. MTU September 22nd, 2010 at 12:11 pm

    CC-

    Kevin Long for President ! :)

  5. yanksfansince67 September 22nd, 2010 at 12:13 pm

    Chinese youth baseball team visiting Yankee Stadium tonight

    wu hu!

  6. Wave Your Hat September 22nd, 2010 at 12:19 pm

    “The Cardinals GM has already said that he will not trade Rasmus.

    Upton and Braun also won’t be on the market. ”

    Perhaps unlikely, but they could be available if the price was right. I think all three players had seasons that didn’t quite meet expectations, so you never know. Same could be said of Matt Kemp.

    Larger picture, I think the Yank offense needs to get younger and ultimately cheaper. The only place that can really be done is in the OF, and Granderson or Swisher are the movable pieces. Trading Gardner doesn’t help salary-wise (and besides I like him!).

    Plus, the Yankee pitching depth means they are going to have to trade a few someones. So, I think you explore trading them and either Granderson or Swisher for the young cheap good OF of Cash’s choice.

    The Yanks may like what they have, but the offense has missed a certain je nais sais quoi. Staying put, and adding Lee, of course helps but may not be enough.

  7. CountryClub September 22nd, 2010 at 12:21 pm

    The Yankees still have hope lefty reliever Damaso Marte might recover from a shoulder injury to pitch in the playoffs. He played catch Monday and felt good.

    Cashman said it would not take long to get him ready to pitch since he usually faces one batter.

    “We can get him going if he’s healthy enough to go,” Cashman said. “He’s in a unique situation being a left-handed specialist. We’ll see.”

    Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports.....z10HB9ZHXD

  8. raymagnetic September 22nd, 2010 at 12:26 pm

    Why would another team trade their young, cheap and good outfielder and take back an older, more expensive outfielder even if they get pitching back in return?

  9. Bronx Jeers September 22nd, 2010 at 12:27 pm

    MTU,

    No love for the young master this morning? What gives? :wink:

  10. Wave Your Hat September 22nd, 2010 at 12:27 pm

    “Why would another team trade their young, cheap and good outfielder and take back an older, more expensive outfielder even if they get pitching back in return?”

    Because they get back pitching in return? And maybe the Yanks eat some payroll too. Just a thought.

  11. MTU September 22nd, 2010 at 12:30 pm

    Jeers-

    You’re always late to the party but I’ll do you a solid since we’re friends.

    http://picasaweb.google.com/cy.....PckKKgjgE#

    There you go.

    Enjoy. :)

  12. JM September 22nd, 2010 at 12:30 pm

    The return of an effective Marte would be huge. But when was the last time he pitched in a game?

  13. blake September 22nd, 2010 at 12:31 pm

    Ray,

    That’s the main point. Teams aren’t going to make those trades including an older more expensive Granderson or Swisher + an unproven pitching prospect…it would take Gardner + Hughes+ others and I doubt they see the outfield is in enough need to warrant that..

  14. MTU September 22nd, 2010 at 12:32 pm

    JM-

    “But when was the last time he pitched in a game?”

    At the dawn of Civilization I think. :)

  15. raymagnetic September 22nd, 2010 at 12:33 pm

    Wave,

    What pitcher(s) are you trading? Phil Hughes?

    Besides, the guys who are young and good are making paltry salaries compared to what Granderson and Swisher will be making next year.

  16. MTU September 22nd, 2010 at 12:35 pm

    Blake-

    I agree with your take. If the Yanks really wanted a guy like Upton GGBG would almost certainly have to be a a part of it.

  17. CountryClub September 22nd, 2010 at 12:37 pm

    Marte came back late last yr after missing most of the season. So it’s possible he could do it again. But I think he came back early enough last yr to get in some minor league games. So it wasnt THIS late in the yr.

  18. blake September 22nd, 2010 at 12:38 pm

    Here is a question: would there ever come a point where the Yankees would consider eating a considerable amount of AJ’s salary if it meant they could move him?

  19. West Coast Yankee Fan September 22nd, 2010 at 12:38 pm

    Someone who thinks K.Long is god please explain to me why months and months of sub par performances by Granderson, Teixeira and Jeter are mysteriously fixed by small tweaks. Why now and not then?

  20. SJ44 September 22nd, 2010 at 12:38 pm

    The Yankees haven’t eat much, if any payroll, since Cashman took full control.

    In fact, they have looked to get more payroll relief from teams in trade than vice versa.

    The idea is to get better. Getting younger doesn’t necessarily mean getting better.

    Why do they have to get younger in the OF?

    Gardner, Granderson and Swisher aren’t old players and they are all productive.

    The Yankees are banking on Granderson continuing his improvement.

    The fact is, he is already hitting higher against lefties for a season than he has in any of his previous years except one.

    Teams aren’t trading young, cost controlled OF’s these days unless they get a lot in return.

    The Yankees have no reason to break up a winning formula.

    Nor do they have to trade any young pitching right now.

    Especially since, as the old axiom goes, you can never have enough pitching.

  21. hardwired7 September 22nd, 2010 at 12:38 pm

    from CountyClub’s link:

    “Mexican billionaire Carlos Slim Helu , reportedly the richest man in the world and a huge Yankees fan, was a guest of Yankees president Randy Levine last night.”

    how wealthy is he? he could buy the Yankees along w/Yankee Stadium, and still have over $55B to play with.

    ‘On August 4, 2007, The Wall Street Journal ran a cover story profiling Slim. The article said, “While the market value of his stake in publicly traded companies could decline at any time, at the moment he is probably wealthier than Bill Gates”.’

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Slim

  22. Wave Your Hat September 22nd, 2010 at 12:38 pm

    ray-

    Assuming the Yanks sign Lee and Andy comes back, sure I’d trade Hughes. I’ve been pretty consistent there.

    I think Hughes can be great, but I’d take a weaker # 5 starter and move an outfielder (preferably Granderson, but even Swisher if need be) AND pay some of Grandy’s or Swish’s salary for the right guy.

    I’m thinking down the road, an offense with Montero, a Braun, Kemp, Upton, Rasmus or Choo, and Gardner, to pair with what the Yanks already have, would be spectacular, while giving Yanks payroll space to meet other needs as well.

    I know it’s a minority view.

  23. MTU September 22nd, 2010 at 12:39 pm

    Blake-

    Yes. At the end of next year if he has another season like this one.

    At that point, he would disappear.

  24. Wave Your Hat September 22nd, 2010 at 12:39 pm

    SJ44-

    All you have done for the past three weeks is complain about the offense.

    I’m just trying to help.

  25. Joe from Long Island September 22nd, 2010 at 12:40 pm

    I really don’t see another team dealing a young, dynamic, power hitting OF type for an older, more expensive OF (I don’t think the Yanks would be paying the freight), and a couple of minor league pitchers. Too many questions. Can the minor league pitchers pitch in the majors successfully? Can the young OF adapt to NY?

    The young bat I look to get is Jesus Montero. He’s young, and unproven at the major league level, but you don’t give up proven players for him.

  26. raymagnetic September 22nd, 2010 at 12:41 pm

    Wave,

    I like the idea, but I just don’t see it happening. It’s a great idea actually however.

  27. SJ44 September 22nd, 2010 at 12:42 pm

    Because hitting coach’s can’t force players to work with them.

    That’s not how it works.

    For veteran guys like Jeter for example, the hitting coach has to tread lightly.

    You can see what a guy is doing wrong. However, the player is used to hitting a certain way and its very difficult to change that in season.

    Its like a swing coach can see what Tiger Woods is doing wrong off the tee.

    However, if Tiger isn’t yet ready to change, the coach can’t force the changes on him.

    Same holds true for hitting coaches and how they work with players.

  28. pat September 22nd, 2010 at 12:43 pm

    From Buster:

    Interesing question posed by GM: Will the Red Sox wait on Adrian Beltre to make his free-agent decision — knowing his agent, Scott Boras, often waits until late Dec./early Jan. to finalize deals — which could leave them with empty hands, as with Teixeira, if Beltre signs elsewhere.

    In other words: would the Red Sox go hard after Carl Crawford early rather than wait for Beltre?Or go after both?

  29. SJ44 September 22nd, 2010 at 12:44 pm

    The players are already in place for the offense to be productive. They don’t need to go outside for more help.

    It helps to play the A Team more than once every six weeks.

    Situational hitting, their real problem, can also be fixed from within.

  30. MTU September 22nd, 2010 at 12:45 pm

    WCYF-

    If reports are to be believed Long started more one on one with Grandy in august. The results are seen from that point on.

    Jeter just went to him recently. Also looking better.

    As far as I know Long did not do special one on one work with Tex.

    Are these small samples ? Yup. But IMO the synchro in time plus Long’s other successes lead me to believe he is responsible.

    That’s just my take. And in spite of my praise I don’t think Long is a God. President will be good enough. ;)

  31. blake September 22nd, 2010 at 12:45 pm

    MTU,
    I agree. If it became clear that he was no longer one of the 5 best starters in the system, I could see them choosing to relieve themselves of some of his salary rather than paying all of it for him to be a long man or whatever…this assuming they could find a taker for him. Of course I’m hoping he piches better and it never comes to that.

  32. West Coast Yankee Fan September 22nd, 2010 at 12:49 pm

    MTU, I understand. But why does so much time transpire before Long gets serious with some of these guys that are obviously in severe slumps? This notion that the players must come to Caesar is the height of absurdity to me. I’m not knocking Long particularly as much as I am questioning the process.

  33. MTU September 22nd, 2010 at 12:50 pm

    Blake-

    Agreed. that would be a lot simpler and more cost effective so let’s just hope it goes that way.

    I do have my doubts though.

  34. SJ44 September 22nd, 2010 at 12:51 pm

    The Red Sox are in the same place the Yankees were with Johnny Damon last year.

    Scott isn’t changing his negotiating strategy for anybody. He will wait out the market as long as he can.

    Its going to be interesting to see what happens in Boston in the off-season.

    They have a ton of touch decisions to make and there aren’t easy answers to any of them.

    You can have all the money in the world. However, if you don’t make smart decisions, the money isn’t going to help you.

    If Crawford goes to Anaheim and Lee to NY (the likely destinations, IMO), the Sox may have to overpay to keep Beltre and Martinez.

    Its debatable as to whether that’s the right way to go.

    You can bet however that Scott Boras is going to wait out the market because he knows its in Beltre’s best interests to do so.

  35. MTU September 22nd, 2010 at 12:52 pm

    WCYF-

    I think SJ explained that above. A lot better than I ever could.

  36. blake September 22nd, 2010 at 12:52 pm

    Derek Jeter is his own hitting coach first and foremost….as SJ said Long isn’t going to go and change a lot of things with hitters (especially HOF ones) unless he’s asked to.

  37. Vineyard Yankee September 22nd, 2010 at 12:54 pm

    WCYF, you been nippin at the new batch of moonshine we got out in the back shed ?

  38. Bronx Jeers September 22nd, 2010 at 12:54 pm

    MTU,

    Talk about “brownstone” apartments.

    What do you think the square footage is in of those? I may be looking to re-locate. :wink:

  39. SJ44 September 22nd, 2010 at 12:54 pm

    It has nothing to do with Long. Those are player driven decisions.

    Some guys, like Alex for example, have no problems tinkering with their swings at any time.

    Other players have a tough time tinkering with the way they swing the bat since many of them (Jeter for example) have been doing it one way (with enormous success) for almost 20 years.

    Its why its so tough to be a hitting coach. Its not a one size, fits all position and you have to also be a part-time psychologist to boot.

  40. Vineyard Yankee September 22nd, 2010 at 12:56 pm

    In the subterranean of Yankee Stadium dust off those presses, ink up the rollers and prep some of that paper to roll out some fresh new greenbacks. Sign em all and absolutely kick butt for the next 5 years.

    After all you know what they say……………………………………after all, its only money !

  41. MTU September 22nd, 2010 at 12:57 pm

    Jeers-

    The rent is cheap thats for sure. Plenty of room for hobbit-sized people. I think you’d feel a little crowded though. ;)

    It’s amazing to be able to walk up to and look around in structures that are 800 years old. They made ‘em well. All things considered.

  42. West Coast Yankee Fan September 22nd, 2010 at 12:58 pm

    Vineyard, 2009, what a great year in Napa. Cab anyone?

  43. blake September 22nd, 2010 at 12:59 pm

    yes but is Boras prepared to defend against the Jedi mind tricks of the incomparable Theo Epstein?

  44. ac1 September 22nd, 2010 at 1:01 pm

    sox have a lot of tough decisions. they have said ortiz is coming back. they have to pay drew 15/year, cameron (8-10?), will have no catchers without signing one in FA, no 3B, and their three worst starters are the ones making 17 M/Year, or in dice K’s case 8 + reminence of the posted fee to talk to him).

    They are up there in salary as is, pushing into yankee territory with much less to show for it.

  45. CountryClub September 22nd, 2010 at 1:01 pm

    Jeter ,especially, has never been a guy that made mechanical adjustments at the plate. He was always just a natural hitter that went up there and hit what he saw. Now that he’s getting older he’ll probably need to concentrate more on mechanics. This is a good thing.

  46. West Coast Yankee Fan September 22nd, 2010 at 1:03 pm

    SJ44
    September 22nd, 2010 at 12:42 pm

    Because hitting coach’s can’t force players to work with them. That’s not how it works. For veteran guys like Jeter for example, the hitting coach has to tread lightly. You can see what a guy is doing wrong. However, the player is used to hitting a certain way and its very difficult to change that in season. Its like a swing coach can see what Tiger Woods is doing wrong off the tee. However, if Tiger isn’t yet ready to change, the coach can’t force the changes on him. Same holds true for hitting coaches and how they work with players.

    ******************************

    I understand the way it works. I am questioning that system, it’s ridiculous. Players are payed what they are to perform at a certain level and when they are mired in a horrendous slump it is hardly professional or fair to your teammates to not seek help from the very person whose job it is to help you. It’s the players obligation to do so.

    It’s also not so difficult to make changes that produce results. Obviously. They all talk about the smallest adjustment making a difference. It happened almost instantaneously with Granderson and it happened quickly with Jeter as well once he started working with Long.

  47. Ruby Tuesday September 22nd, 2010 at 1:04 pm

    Via Tom Friedman:

    “For the U.S. visitor, the comparisons start from the moment one departs Beijing’s South Station, a giant space-age building, and boards the bullet train to Tianjin. It takes just 25 minutes to make the 75-mile trip. In Tianjin, one arrives at another ultramodern train station — where, unlike New York City’s Pennsylvania Station, all the escalators actually work. From there, you drive to the Tianjin Meijiang Convention Center, a building so gigantic and well appointed that if it were in Washington, D.C., it would be a tourist site. Your hosts inform you: “It was built in nine months.” …..

  48. MTU September 22nd, 2010 at 1:05 pm

    CC-

    Once a ballplayer, even a star like Jeter, reaches a certain age the maintenance manual calls out for more frequent oil changes and tuneups. :)

    (And I’m not touchin’ that line about the oil changes, or for that matter the tune ups).

  49. Ruby Tuesday September 22nd, 2010 at 1:08 pm

    In other words, these kids will probably feel jaded visiting this “little stadium.”

  50. m September 22nd, 2010 at 1:08 pm

    Long IS great. To argue otherwise is foolhardy.

    Doreen,

    Maybe you got your Uptons mixed up? I’m not positive, but I think BJ is a converted infielder. 2B I think. Don’t know why they did it, but iirc he was not very happy about it at the time.

    As for Mo and Jeter? They’re at the age when an option year makes sense. Will give the appearance of being a larger contract than it really is, but protects them against a precipitous decline.

  51. DaSaint007 September 22nd, 2010 at 1:08 pm

    Hello everyone. Starting on 2011 already I see.
    Ok, for what it’s worth I see the following as possibilities:

    Carl Crawford gets signed for LF, Gardner gets moved to RF, and Swisher becomes the ‘everyday’ DH. Granderson stays in CF.

    Lee is signed. Andy returns. Rotation: CC, Lee, AJ, Pettitte, Hughes
    Mariano gets resigned, as does Jeter of course.
    Wood could get signed. Nova makes bullpen (Mariano, Wood, Chamberlain, Robertson, Logan, Nova, Marte).

    But I don’t see Wood returning. So I’d substitute Alabaldejo instead.

  52. YankeeBlue222 September 22nd, 2010 at 1:08 pm

    West Coast Yankee Fan September 22nd, 2010 at 1:03 pm
    It’s also not so difficult to make changes that produce results.
    ———–

    Really? So you’re saying you can be a productive, Major League hitter after a few hours of work with a hitting coach?

    Better yet, why do players even retire? Based on your reasoning, all they have to do is make a few changes to produce results. Right?

  53. JM September 22nd, 2010 at 1:09 pm

    # MTU September 22nd, 2010 at 12:32 pm

    JM-

    “But when was the last time he pitched in a game?”

    At the dawn of Civilization I think. :)

    _________________

    About the same time Nick Johnson was last healthy. :)

  54. SAS September 22nd, 2010 at 1:09 pm

    MTU,

    As always superb pics. How will I ever choose?

  55. SAS September 22nd, 2010 at 1:10 pm

    Chad,

    I know you need down time, but it just isn’t the same when you aren’t here. Thanks for all your hard work.

  56. MTU September 22nd, 2010 at 1:10 pm

    JM-

    No. I think that was during the Ice Age. :)

  57. blake September 22nd, 2010 at 1:11 pm

    DaSaint,

    That’s a steep payroll your predicting….a good team, but a steep payroll.

  58. SAS September 22nd, 2010 at 1:12 pm

    Unless you were picking up an Arod type of player, why would you trade the young pitchers and outfielders who are playing so well?

  59. MTU September 22nd, 2010 at 1:12 pm

    SAS-

    More to keep you busy.

    My pleasure.

    I guess you could just flip a coin. :)

  60. SJ44 September 22nd, 2010 at 1:14 pm

    You only hear about changes when they work. You rarely hear about changes when they don’t.

    Many players live in fear. Its the fear of trying something that doesn’t work, leading to bigger problems, that often drive their mindsets.

    Its why until a player, especially a star player, is completely committed to change, there is only so much a hitting coach can do.

  61. Bronx Jeers September 22nd, 2010 at 1:15 pm

    Now that he’s getting older he’ll probably need to concentrate more on mechanics. This is a good thing.

    ———————————–

    ????????????

    His slump-proof swing is failing him and it’s a good thing? Tell him that! :lol:

  62. SoS September 22nd, 2010 at 1:15 pm

    The obvious solution is for Long to make a hitting video(heard of six second abs?, how about SPLIT SECOND LONG-EVITY), have a booth in the clubhouse selling it to the players while it plays over and over on the screens.
    PROBLEM SOLVED and the whole Yankee lineup bats .300 with 30 A bombs.

    Next problem?

  63. MTU September 22nd, 2010 at 1:16 pm

    SJ-

    Sounds like AA.

    Got to hit that personal bottom. :)

  64. m September 22nd, 2010 at 1:16 pm

    Anyway, we can debate the virtues of Kevin Long. But one thing us very evident. Those hitters swear by him.

  65. West Coast Yankee Fan September 22nd, 2010 at 1:16 pm

    ankeeBlue222
    September 22nd, 2010 at 1:08 pm

    West Coast Yankee Fan September 22nd, 2010 at 1:03 pm
    It’s also not so difficult to make changes that produce results.
    ———–

    Really? So you’re saying you can be a productive, Major League hitter after a few hours of work with a hitting coach? Better yet, why do players even retire? Based on your reasoning, all they have to do is make a few changes to produce results. Right?

    *******

    No, wrong. I said quite clearly that for months Granderson and Jeter as the most prominent examples were mired in horrendous slumps. And that after coming to Long for assistance, results were seen in a short period of time and the changes were explained as being minor adjustments.

  66. MTU September 22nd, 2010 at 1:17 pm

    m-

    “Those hitters swear by him.”

    Or at him ! :)

  67. West Coast Yankee Fan September 22nd, 2010 at 1:18 pm

    I also said clearly above I was not questioning Long as much as I was questioning the process by which it’s decided that at a certain point in time a player needs intensive and immediate work.

  68. m September 22nd, 2010 at 1:20 pm

    Granderson was to be an offseason project and Jeter was in a slump.

    Of course you wish the struggles didn’t happen, but they did. And thankfully the work that Long did with Cano, Swisher, and Gardner paid off as they held us afloat while others struggled at the beginning of the season.

  69. SoS September 22nd, 2010 at 1:20 pm

    Many players live in fear. Its the fear of trying something that doesn’t work, leading to bigger problems, that often drive their mindsets.

    =============

    SJ,
    May I add that many players that struggle know the leash is short and are scared to change things mid season because of it? Who knows if Granderson would not have been benched a few games and they didnt pick up an outfielder on the trade deadline, if he wouldnt have just waited until the season ended to mix things up. I believe that it lit a fire under him.

  70. SJ44 September 22nd, 2010 at 1:23 pm

    Gardner isn’t a RF. He doesn’t have the arm to play RF.

    I think folks need to do their homework on Carl Crawford.

    If they do, they will see he isn’t a NY or Boston kind of guy.

    He’s very quiet, not a fan of big cities, and lives in AZ.

    He’s a perfect fit for the Angels from a style of play, location, and team standpoint.

    Its why it would be somewhat of an upset if he doesn’t end up in Anaheim.

  71. DaSaint007 September 22nd, 2010 at 1:24 pm

    blake, I know, and that’s a good point. Lee & Crawford will cost dollars and years. Maybe for that reason Wood doesn’t get signed and Albaladejo gets his chance. But a rotation of CC, Lee, AJ, Pettitte and Hughes would be awesome, with 3 of the 5 capable of winning 20 each, and the other 2 capable of winning 15 each. Marte could also get traded to save some money in the bullpen, but that’s doubtful due to his injury history.

    While expensive, a lineup featuring speedsters like Crawford, Gardner, Granderson, and Jeter could make life interesting on the basepaths, giving Girardi many more options for scoring runs, as we’ve seen what long droughts does to this veteran team.

    A DH/Bench of Swisher, Posada, Thames would be an upgrade over current options.

  72. m September 22nd, 2010 at 1:24 pm

    Why did they not do it earlier? Probably why a golfer does make major changes to their golf swing on the tour.

    You need to do, not think at the plate.

    Anyway, credit goes to Long and the players. It’s one thing to hear the advice, but another thing to do it.

  73. Brian September 22nd, 2010 at 1:24 pm

    I read Wood has a “vesting option” for next season for $11 million. I don’t know what the vesting option is, but is that too much $$ to pay him for next year to be the EIG, and also give some insurance/flexibility for Rivera to reduce his workload?

    Oh. I found this article from 2008 when he signed his current contract. Doesn’t seem like he’s met the vesting criteria…

    “The Cleveland Indians signed free agent right-hander Kerry Wood to a two-year contract with an option for the 2011 season to complete the team’s 40-man roster.

    The Major League Baseball team didn’t disclose the terms of the agreement. The contract was valued at $20.5 million over two years with $11 million if the option is picked up, contingent on Woods having 55 games finished in either of the next two years, the Associated Press reported. “

  74. MTU September 22nd, 2010 at 1:25 pm

    I think KLong is really a holy Man or a Prophet masquerading as a hitting coach because whenever players work with him or are around him they see the “light”. ;)

  75. DaSaint007 September 22nd, 2010 at 1:28 pm

    SJ, I respectfully disagree. IMO, Gardner has a much better arm than Swisher, so therefore he could play RF. A speedy outfield would mean improved outfield defense.

    You may be correct about Crawford being quiet, but I don’t believe that ever stopped the Yankees from pursuing talent. And because he lives in AZ doesn’t mean he wouldn’t play on the East Coast. A more salient point may be whether the Yankees want to spend on 2 major Free Agents, as opposed to 1, and in that case they’ll probably choose pitching over an OF’er.

  76. Bronx Jeers September 22nd, 2010 at 1:28 pm

    Brian September 22nd, 2010 at 1:24 pm

    I read Wood has a “vesting option” for next season for $11 million. I don’t know what the vesting option is, but is that too much $$ to pay him for next year to be the EIG, and also give some insurance/flexibility for Rivera to reduce his workload?

    ———————————————————————————————————

    Wood’s option was based on “games finished” and it did not kick in. I believe he needed 55 GF in either 2009 or 2010.

    And yes 11 mil is way too much to pay for a set-up guy.

  77. m September 22nd, 2010 at 1:29 pm

    Oops. Does NOT make major changes.

  78. kd September 22nd, 2010 at 1:29 pm

    isn’t crawford really close with cc?

    if the yankees do go after crawford, wouldn’t he be a big recruiter? i’;m not saying they will, but i didn’t think they’d sign tex either.

  79. SJ44 September 22nd, 2010 at 1:30 pm

    Its very true SOS.

    I don’t think folks realize or appreciate how much guts it took for Curtis Granderson to decide to re-work his entire swing (despite what’s being said publicly, they did) in season.

    In Derek’s case, the adjustments have been more minor in nature. Its mainly taking his trigger mechanism (his toe tap) and directing it more toward the pitcher.

    That allows him to let the ball travel further to him while keeping his hands back, allowing him to regain his “Jeterian” stroke.

    Granderson’s change has been much more dramatic.

    From how he sets up in the box, to how he holds his bat to his follow through (both hands on the bat now), its a complete revamping of his swing.

    I honestly can’t recall another player who has done that this late in the season.

    The fact that the results have been so positive is not only a positive for the rest of this year, its a positive for the future.

    Granderson deserves a lot of credit for having the guts to do something I don’t think many ML players would even think about doing this late in the season.

  80. sunny615 September 22nd, 2010 at 1:31 pm

    From ESPN:

    One not so good trade this summer:

    Cliff Lee to the Texas Rangers:
    So far, this deal hasn’t worked out great for either club — although admittedly, the point of the deal for Texas is the playoffs, where Lee shined last year for Philly.

    However, it’s the Mariners who have a front office in bitter turmoil over the move. While the central piece of the deal, Justin Smoak, has not performed well since joining Seattle’s organization, it is the second player in the deal who has caused tremendous problems for the organization. Minor league reliever Josh Lueke’s arrest last year on a rape charge that was eventually pleaded out as “false imprisonment with violence” — has led to many questions about whether the Mariners did enough due diligence when researching the players they were getting back for Lee. Fallout from the move has already been felt, with director of professional scouting Carmen Fusco losing his job over the matter, and reports that GM Jack Zduriencik may not be on the best of terms with upper management after the debacle.

    Compounding the issue, the Mariners scorned the Yankees’ offer of Jesus Montero and two players in order to take the Rangers deal, and Montero caught fire for Triple-A Scranton/Wilkes-Barre immediately after the deal fell through. His strong finish to the year, as a 20-year-old playing at the highest level of the minor leagues, has reaffirmed the belief that he’s one of the game’s premier young hitters. With Smoak’s struggles and Lueke’s baggage, Seattle has to be wondering what could have been if it had just accepted New York’s offer.

    =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
    TOO LATE!!!

  81. sunny615 September 22nd, 2010 at 1:32 pm

    I wonder if there will be more tinkering for Granderson in the offseason…?

  82. m September 22nd, 2010 at 1:33 pm

    I think that Granderson’s improvements might have sealed Crawford’s fate more than Gardner did. Crawford and Gardner have similar skill sets, but Granderson will give more power at a cheaper cost than Crawford.

    Finding Granderson’s stroke must have felt like they discovered a diamond mine.

  83. Bronx Jeers September 22nd, 2010 at 1:36 pm

    MTU,

    I believe I was a “classmate” of Longs back in my salad days in Tucson. He’s a “U of A” man.

    I never ran into him while I was out in the desert “pondering the universe” but then again, it was kind of dark. :wink:

  84. MTU September 22nd, 2010 at 1:36 pm

    Sunny-

    I would think so. And even better results to follow. :)

  85. SJ44 September 22nd, 2010 at 1:36 pm

    Crawford is friendly with CC.

    Torii Hunter is his best friend.

    Gardner’s arm isn’t stronger than Swisher’s. Its more accurate.

    In RF, you need arm strength.

    Gardner has never played RF. He’s strictly a LF/CF.

    With Montero on the come, and age among Arod, Jeter and Posada, I don’t see a scenario by which they will make Nick Swisher a permanent DH.

    I think that spot will be rotated among the 4 guys above I mentioned.

    Wood His vesting option won’t kick in, making him a FA at the end of the year.

    If he pitches well in the post-season, I think the Yankees will make a serious run to retain his services.

  86. MTU September 22nd, 2010 at 1:37 pm

    Jeers-

    Then he just wasn’t there. He generates his own kind of light. ;)

  87. sunny615 September 22nd, 2010 at 1:40 pm

    From the Crasnik chat earlier:

    Steve (NY) How about Crawford for $15-20M vs. Gardner for the league min??
    Jerry Crasnick (12:28 PM) Steve, Bret Gardner gives the Yankees speed, competitiveness, defense and great plate discipline, but we’re talking apples and oranges here. Carl Crawford is an elite outfielder. If you put Gardner on a weaker team, do you think he would have the same impact? (Just take a look at Melky Cabrera in Atlanta). And never mind that if Gardner hangs around another three or four years, he’s going to get pretty expensive, too.

    =-=-=

    Chris (Staten Island, NY) Jerry, If Yu Darvish is indeed posted this year as we are now hearing rumors he will, do you think he moves ahead of Cliff Lee as the most in demand starting considering the age difference (24 vs 32) and Lee’s back problems this year?

    Jerry Crasnick (12:30 PM) Chris, Not for me. Yu Darvish has a chance to be very good, but there are a lot of variables and question marks with a pitcher coming over from Japan. Cliff Lee is a proven commodity and a top-of-the rotation guy. He’ll cost more, but he gives you a more reliable bet. Especially if you’re a contending team and you can’t afford to mess around.

  88. hardwired7 September 22nd, 2010 at 1:41 pm

    maybe Khalil Gibran had visions of KLong before he wrote ‘The Prophet’?

  89. Betsy September 22nd, 2010 at 1:42 pm

    Even if the Yankees see OF as a problem, they aren’t trading Phil Hughes.

    Marte may come back? I don’t know, seems like a pipe dream.

    I hope the Yanks try and re-sign Kerry. I know he’ll want to close, but where will he get those chances? On a mediocre or bad team? If he wants the $$ that much, good luck to him.

  90. West Coast Yankee Fan September 22nd, 2010 at 1:42 pm

    Granderson’s numbers are generally on par or lower this year compared to what he has produced in the past; even taking into account his injury. He hit 30 home runs last year and his OBP and BA in 2010 are the lowest of his career.

  91. MTU September 22nd, 2010 at 1:42 pm

    Hardwired-

    That’s a strong possibility. ;)

  92. JM September 22nd, 2010 at 1:43 pm

    The M’s were idiots not to make the deal with the Yankees when they had the chance. Would love to have Cliff Lee for the playoffs but I’m really glad Montero is still a Yank. Can’t wait to see him up in the show next year.

  93. MTU September 22nd, 2010 at 1:44 pm

    WCYF-

    That’s great then there is room for further improvement. :)

  94. JM September 22nd, 2010 at 1:44 pm

    The Indians leading the Twins 1-0….Go Tribe!

  95. sunny615 September 22nd, 2010 at 1:45 pm

    More Crasnik:

    Doug (NYC) Here’s what it comes down to, Jerry. Would the Yanks be better off the next 4 years with Crawford for approx. $60M or Gardner (approx. $4M) + $56M in other player value?

    Jerry Crasnick (12:37 PM) Doug, If Jason Bay could get four years and $66 million, I don’t think 4 & $60 million is going to land Carl Crawford. Until recently, wasn’t the plan for the Yanks to keep Gardner and trade Curtis Granderson to make room for Crawford? Has that changed since Granderson got hot? I have a hard time keeping track of the Yankees’
    offseason shopping plans.

    =-=-=-=-=

    Jon (Charlotte) Jerry,What two teams do you have making it to the WS as of right now, and who wins?

    Jerry Crasnick (1:02 PM) Jon, As boring as this sounds, right now a rematch of the Yankees-Phillies 2009 series looks like a distinct possibility. The Phillies look stronger at the moment only because they have more certainty in their rotation.

  96. Betsy September 22nd, 2010 at 1:46 pm

    It’s not that easy to just develop young pitching and say that well, we have other talented prospects, so let’s dump Phil. This is a guy that Cash has hoped for years to build a pitching staff around, so why would he trade Phil? The question is – why would he want to? Just so we can get an OF? You can get one of those pretty easily. Potential front-line starters don’t grow on trees.

  97. sunny615 September 22nd, 2010 at 1:47 pm

    A) Even if Marte did come back, I’d be hard pressed to use him in the post season until he demonstrated the ability to get people out.

    B) I thought so MTU :)

    C) Yu Darvish or Cliff Lee – or both? Or Crawford? Or just one?

  98. Brian September 22nd, 2010 at 1:47 pm

    From the Crasnik chat earlier:

    Steve (NY) How about Crawford for $15-20M vs. Gardner for the league min??
    Jerry Crasnick (12:28 PM) Steve, Bret Gardner gives the Yankees speed, competitiveness, defense and great plate discipline, but we’re talking apples and oranges here. Carl Crawford is an elite outfielder. If you put Gardner on a weaker team, do you think he would have the same impact? (Just take a look at Melky Cabrera in Atlanta). And never mind that if Gardner hangs around another three or four years, he’s going to get pretty expensive, too.

    ———————————————–

    Pretty weak answer, no? Gardner and Melky has different skill sets. If Gardner went to a different team, he might have MORE impact since he’d be able to steal a lot more often (given he gets on base w/o the Yankee lineup, which I guess is what he’s insinuating) since he won’t be waiting for home runs like with the Yankees. And to worry about what a player will cost, esp the Yankees, in 3-4 years from now vs Crawford THIS season seems pretty much a reach to make his case.

  99. Betsy September 22nd, 2010 at 1:51 pm

    Can’t argue with Crasnik about the Phils, but there is a long way to go.

    The OF is fine as is. I don’t think Swisher is a fluke, though I want to see if Gardner can perform for a full year. Granderson? He got a raw deal at the beginning, even though he showed how clutch he could be already in the first Boston series. I agree it took a lot of guts for him to make such drastic changes and I hope these changes stick because he’s a huge part of our offense for next year. I think Jeter will be fine, but you never know…….Jorge? Who knows also? Will Tex disappear for half the year? Will Alex stay healthy? The lineup is going to have question marks, so Granderson really needs to be solid for us.

  100. SJ44 September 22nd, 2010 at 1:54 pm

    Let the Red Sox sign Darvish.

    They have cornered the market on overrated Japanese pitchers.

    Let them fall for the hype and I’ll take the sure thing in Cliff Lee.

    As far as Marte is concerned, all he has to do is get lefties out.

    If he can get activated in the final week, and face 4-6 lefties, and looks good, you have to put him on the post-season roster.

    Two lefties in the bullpen is preferable and Marte could be a weapon if he is ok, healthwise.

  101. Betsy September 22nd, 2010 at 1:56 pm

    http://www.nypost.com/p/sports.....C6VJayjLEI

    Pretty solid article from Sherman; Phil is certainly not a finished product, what with his tendency towards HRs and long counts…….love Eiland’s quote, lol.

  102. SAS September 22nd, 2010 at 1:57 pm

    The sports mediots are saying Crawford is going to the Angels who need him. The Yankees don’t need to add salary for the sake of it. I like our outfield. Can it be improved …yes, but is it necessary…no.

    The Yankees should not be an all star team. I would, however, take my chances with Lee. They may also need short term catching protection. They need someone who can play first base in addition to another infield/outfield position. You cannot expect Teixera to play with no days off indefinitely.

    Those are the needs I see for next year.

  103. Betsy September 22nd, 2010 at 1:59 pm

    SJ, if he’s ok, then I would absolutely love Marte to make it back……..

    I’m not overly interested in Darvish either. If Lee signs and Andy is back, then we’re set for next year. If Lee signs and Andy retires, then we have a spot open……but I think that would either go to Nova or some solid veteran to hold the place warm for one of the other kids down the line. I don’t think the Yankees really want to tie up another spot in the rotation given the arms they have……

  104. SAS September 22nd, 2010 at 2:01 pm

    I forgot…we also need a good DH.

  105. Wave Your Hat September 22nd, 2010 at 2:01 pm

    “Potential front-line starters don’t grow on trees.”

    Yes they do. Actual front-line starters don’t.

  106. SAS September 22nd, 2010 at 2:02 pm

    :arrow: Kevin Towers heading for Arizona

  107. Cashman needs to go September 22nd, 2010 at 2:16 pm

    I’m sorry I don’t buy the “he’s a HOF hitter” or ANY hitter really and the hitting coach can’t approach him if he’s slumping. You mean to tell me that if jeter or granderson were hitting .197 at this point in the season everyone on the yankees coaching staff are supposed to stay quiet and make believe nothing is wrong. Kevin Long can’t innocently walk over to jeter (or granderson or whomever) and say “Hey I know you’re struggling a bit and I ‘m sure you’ll break out of it eventually but I’m here for you and i think I know what to do in case you want to hear it”…

    I find that rather stupid and if coaches or managers don’t at least approach the hitter with some sort of advice or offer to help then that coach or manager is absolutely not doing his job – its a travesty that long or girardi waited until late august to help granderson if they knew since may or june what he was doing wrong and what he needed to do to correct it

    i.e. – if i have a spouse or family member that is coming home drunk 5 out of 7 days a week and i just stand there and pretend its not happening while waiting for them to make the first move then i’m not doing a good job of looking out for a loved one…

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