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Who’s next in the Yankees bullpen?

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Sep 22, 2010 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Rays Yankees BaseballJoe Girardi has clearly found comfort in his late-inning relievers.

Since the all-star break, Boone Logan, Joba Chamberlain and and Dave Robertson have earned Girardi trust. Mariano Rivera earned that trust a long time, and Kerry Wood has been as reliable as anyone on the staff since coming over at the trade deadline. Those are Girardi’s go-to guys, and they’ll remain his go-to guys in the playoffs.

But there is value in bullpen depth, and right now it’s hard to say who the Yankees sixth reliever would be in the playoffs, much less the seventh. Last year, Girardi used seven different relievers more than once in the ALCS. He used six different relievers more than once – and eight relievers overall — in the World Series. And that was with a schedule that let the Yankees use only three starters.

It could be that Girardi already has a good idea who he wants to carry in the postseason, but if he’s still trying to decide, there hasn’t been a lot of evidence in the past few weeks.

• Javier Vazquez, a big offseason addition who was looking like a reliable starter at the all-star break, pitched last night for the first time in 11 days.
• Sergio Mitre, who has a .205 opponents average as a reliever this season, has thrown six pitches since September 5.
• Dustin Moseley, who was a regular starter for more than a month, had a pretty good spot start last Sunday and hasn’t pitched since.
• Royce Ring, the team’s only option as a second lefty in the bullpen, hasn’t pitched since joining the team last week in Tampa Bay.
• Jonathan Albaladejo, who was positively dominant in Triple-A this season, has hardly gotten a look at any point this season. Ditto Romulo Sanchez.
• Chad Gaudin, who actually has become something of a go-to guy lately, went through all of June and July pitching only once when a game was within three runs. And that was in the 14th inning.

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236 Responses to “Who’s next in the Yankees bullpen?”

  1. SJ44 September 22nd, 2010 at 9:08 am

    Add Marte to the mix.

    The rumor is, he may not be done for the year after all and could be activated as soon as the weekend to see if he can pitch.

    If he can, no doubt he would be on the post-season roster.

  2. ac1 September 22nd, 2010 at 9:10 am

    Marte or not…. Logan definitely stays. I say it cannot hurt to have two lefties against Tampa, Texas and Minny.

  3. Erica in NY September 22nd, 2010 at 9:13 am

    Doreen-

    This might sound strange but I actually got a little worried yesterday afternoon when I saw it was the “A Line up”.

    My thought was, “Now that everyone is reunited, if there aren’t runs scored, we really are in trouble”

  4. blake September 22nd, 2010 at 9:13 am

    SJ,

    Has marte been throwing etc….I had no idea he might be back.

  5. blake September 22nd, 2010 at 9:15 am

    Does Posada catch AJ tonight? That’s the big question of the day for me.

  6. ac1 September 22nd, 2010 at 9:15 am

    well probably no A- Lineup tonight with Burnett pitching to Cervelli (though Velli has been hitting lately). And i feel like Posada may have needed a break after the shot to the groin he took at the end of last night’s game.

  7. MTU September 22nd, 2010 at 9:17 am

    Blake-

    That is the 64 thousand dollar question.

  8. ac1 September 22nd, 2010 at 9:17 am

    I am not as concerned about Cervelli in the lineup as i was 2 months ago. He looks to be hitting now more like he did early in the year.

    I hope the yankees take this run right into game 1 vs. future yankee cliff lee…

  9. JoeyA September 22nd, 2010 at 9:19 am

    what’s the deal with Marte?

  10. Yankee Trader September 22nd, 2010 at 9:20 am

    Repost:

    As far as the postseason pitching roster goes, I see your point SJ about Nova not having pitched out of the bullpen before, but he’s looked good in his last two appearances until he had a long layoff between innings and for whatever reason, loss of focus, third time thru the order, he has better pitches than the others competing for a “long man”roster spot and neither the Twins or Rangers have faced him, which might be a plus.

    Kudos to Hughes for turning the tide by setting down the Rays in order in the 5th and 6th innings when it looked like the Rays might make a comeback. Still a little worrisome that he walked five and hasn’t been able to finish off hitters after 0-2 counts. Looks like Nova and Hughes have pitched about the same amount of innings this season.

    If I were to guess, based on today, Vazquez and Nova make the postseason roster over Moseley, Gaudin and Mitre. Still games to play though!

  11. blake September 22nd, 2010 at 9:20 am

    MTU,
    If they are going to do it then now is the time…they are up 2-0 in the series with CC pitching tomorrow. Of course it would probably mean either Cervelli catches CC or Jorge catches 3 straight games. My money would be on Cervelli catching today….but I really think they need to match AJ and Posada up at some point before the post season as I think he should catch every game in October.

  12. MTU September 22nd, 2010 at 9:23 am

    Blake-

    I understand your thought process, and I agree about the importance of Posada in the the LU Catching.

    The question is does Joe G. see it that way ?

    Gun to my head, I say no. I’m prepared to be surprised though. :)

  13. Doreen September 22nd, 2010 at 9:23 am

    Erica -

    I know what you mean. Because then there’s no fall-back reason is there? :)

    But now I’m thinking about tonight. They scored a nice amount of runs last night, but lately they’ve not given AJ much run support even when he’s pitched fairly well. AAAAAARRRRRGGGGGGHHHHH!

    It’s never easy. :lol:

  14. jacksquat September 22nd, 2010 at 9:24 am

    I want Nova over any of those listed (long man, emergency starter).

  15. MTU September 22nd, 2010 at 9:26 am

    Blake-

    So here’s another interesting question.

    Based on what the Yankees have seen from Nova do they trade him or keep him in the off season ?

    Where does his maximum value to the Yankees lie ?

  16. Yankee Trader September 22nd, 2010 at 9:26 am

    Cervelli will catch today with AJ on the mound. Girardi was probably kicking himself for leaving Posada in to catch the ninth after seeing him felled by a foul pitch off his inner thigh.

  17. Doreen September 22nd, 2010 at 9:29 am

    MTU -

    Baseball Reference has Justin Upton as a RF/OF. But not ever an INF, so I have no idea where I got that in my head. :)

  18. CR9 September 22nd, 2010 at 9:33 am

    # Rich in NJ September 22nd, 2010 at 2:23 am

    I’m too old to hate. I no longer have the energy.
    _____
    Rich, hate is a good thing, maybe the best of things! :)

  19. MTU September 22nd, 2010 at 9:34 am

    Doreen-

    I want him. Huge upside.

    Towers now knows our farm inside out.

    What would it take to get him ? I wonder.

  20. Yankee Trader September 22nd, 2010 at 9:34 am

    Keep Nova. What starting position spots are needed next year-none with Jeter coming back. Other than “maybe” a backup catcher, and another lefty-Lee-in the starting rotation, plus reassembling a bench, what good value would you get for trading Nova. Josh Johnson? Trevor Cahill? No!

  21. MTU September 22nd, 2010 at 9:37 am

    YT-

    I understand that position but a lot of it depends on how next year’s rotation shakes out.

    Nova certainly has opened up my eyes. The level of Pitching and catching talent in the Yankees system is staggering.

    There may not be a place for him ?

  22. Doreen September 22nd, 2010 at 9:38 am

    MTU -

    Is Justin Upton anything like his brother in Tampa, though? Meaning, is he in need of veteran presence?

    Because if he does, I’m not sure Cashman takes a chance. And at least it sounds like he is happy with his current outfield make-up.

    But – it’s fun to wish for guys. I wished for Curtis Granderson and Mark Teixeira. I got really lucky didn’t I? :lol:

  23. CR9 September 22nd, 2010 at 9:40 am

    In the offseason, it would be a great idea if the Yankees decided packaged Nova along with a centerpiece – perhaps one of our many catchers not named Montero or Romine – and a couple other players to get Greinke. Of course, that is if we sign Lee.

    Essentially, with a starting rotation of CC, Lee, Greinke, Phil, and fill in the blank (most likely, AJ), you all but assure yourself of being World Series Champions.

    Fun to dream!

  24. MTU September 22nd, 2010 at 9:41 am

    Doreen-

    Nope. More solid citizen. Better all around talent.

    Yeah. I think Cash sticks with what he has. Just a fantasy on my part.

    He has 5 tools and still very young.

  25. Yankee Trader September 22nd, 2010 at 9:42 am

    Those other arms are another year away. Nova has shown he can dial up the fastball to 97 in his first start.

  26. Bronx Jeers September 22nd, 2010 at 9:44 am

    More fun for the “Less is more when it comes to monuments” crowd.

    http://johnsterling.blogspot.c.....space.html

  27. MTU September 22nd, 2010 at 9:44 am

    YT-

    You’re preaching to the choir. I like Nova. It’s just a matter of how the Yankees perceive him.

    There isn’t room for everyone is all I’m saying.

  28. Doreen September 22nd, 2010 at 9:45 am

    MTU -

    I was SHOCKED at how young he is. I knew he was young, but he’s the same age as my oldest daughter!!!! And she’s a “baby.” :lol:

    So, there is time for Upton to don the pinstripes. Like I said, it’s fun to wish, and I got two of mine. :)

  29. Yankee Trader September 22nd, 2010 at 9:45 am

    If the Yankees trade for Justin Upton are we giving them Gardner, Nova, Chamberlain and one of our prized AA or AAA pitching prospects?

  30. pat September 22nd, 2010 at 9:46 am

    Interview with Torre yesterday from an LA writer and Torre friend.

    Some of the answers gave me Pre-2009 Alex flashbacks on the cringe-worthy scale.

    http://www.latimes.com/sports/.....;track=rss

  31. MTU September 22nd, 2010 at 9:48 am

    Doreen-

    Yep. definitely fun.

    YT-

    It would something along those lines I would think. Would you give that for Upton ? Too much. Too little.

  32. Yankee Trader September 22nd, 2010 at 9:48 am

    MTU

    Just my 2 cents. IMHO, gone are Moseley, Gaudin, Mitre, Vazquez, Ring, so Nova could be a valuable addition to the pen and as a spot starter.

  33. JM September 22nd, 2010 at 9:51 am

    Would love to see Sado catch AJ tonight, but I just don’t think it’s happening. Cisco will be behind the dish; hopefully he has another productive night like his 3-4 Monday. He’s been ice cold for months, maybe he’s starting to hit again?

  34. jacksquat September 22nd, 2010 at 9:51 am

    If Pettitte decides to not return, I’d be fine with Nova as the #5 (assuming we get Lee). If he can pitch well in September, he can pitch well in the other months. He’s already at 180 innings, so next year there shouldn’t be much of a limit.

  35. MTU September 22nd, 2010 at 9:51 am

    YT-

    Gaudin can disappear. Javy is definitely gone. Ring has questionable value. Moseley and Mitre might be keepers.

    I guess we’ll just have to see how it goes.

  36. CR9 September 22nd, 2010 at 9:52 am

    IMO, you dont get rid of a haul like that for a marginal upgrade over our current outfield. Our starting pitching next year is what needs work. We’ve got CC and Phil. You add Lee and you’ve got a damn good front 3. If you use some of your minor league assets to acquire another top-flight pitcher, you’re in the money!

  37. Rich in NJ September 22nd, 2010 at 9:53 am

    It should be Nova, then Javy.

  38. Erica in NY September 22nd, 2010 at 9:53 am

    My dad just called me…

    He is buying me a NEW Yankee Snoopy from last night’s game… YAY!!!!

    I am going to start a Yankee Snoopy collection

  39. SJ44 September 22nd, 2010 at 9:54 am

    That Torre interview left me with one impression…….

    Man, Donnie is going to have it tough in LA.

    If TJ Simers is already polishing his sword ready to shove it in Donnie’s back, the rest of the LA columnists won’t be far behind since they often follow TJ’s lead.

    Going to be a tough situation for Donnie in LA. Hope it works out for him.

  40. Yankee Trader September 22nd, 2010 at 9:55 am

    Too much for Upton. I haven’t looked at Carlos Gonzalez’ numbers away from Coors, but he has carried the Rockies all season long.
    Just sign Werth, move Swisher to DH, don’t trade speedster Gardner, after teaching him to bunt, sign lefties Lee, resign Pettitte, Rivera and Jeter reassemble the bench, bring in a backup catcher, and call it a day after balooning the roster to 225 million. :)

  41. Bronx Jeers September 22nd, 2010 at 9:57 am

    I don’t think the Dodger orrg. was ever going to re-sign Torre given their situation. They can’t spend that type of moolah on a manager.

    It is funny that he says he doesn’t want to manage the Mets because he thinks it would damage his rep with NY fans. Personally it wouldn’t rub me wrong. What do we care if wants to manage that team?

    And I certainly don’t see him working in the Yanks org. Hugs aside, Cashman is not burying the hatchet that easily.

    What I would like to see is Torre in the booth ruffling Kay’s feathers. Gotta get that guy out of here somehow. Maybe Torre could do it! :wink:

  42. MTU September 22nd, 2010 at 10:00 am

    YT-

    Very good except for a few items.

    I don’t care for Werth. If we need addtional righthanded pop meet Jesus Montero.

    And can you imagine what Upton could become with Long as his hitting coach.

    Pettitte may not return.

  43. Erica in NY September 22nd, 2010 at 10:00 am

    I actually like Michael Kay, but I will say this-

    Michael Kay and John Flaherty have absolutely zero chemistry

  44. Jason Voorhees September 22nd, 2010 at 10:01 am

    Gonzalez’ numbers at home are much much much better than on the road.

    Home: .392/.439/.766 25 HR, 74 RBI (68 Games)
    Away: .278/.320/.444 7 HR, 35 RBI (68 Games)

  45. Eduardo September 22nd, 2010 at 10:03 am

    Erica in NY September 22nd, 2010 at 10:00 am

    “I actually like Michael Kay”

    Have you listened to Michael Kay, or do you watch the games with no volume?

  46. Andrew September 22nd, 2010 at 10:07 am

    Why do they hate Mattingly so much out in LA? That Simers interview was chock-full of Mattingly jabs. Is it just that he was pre-ordained to take over once Torre was gone + that he’s never managed before and blew that whole “visit to the mound twice in 1 inning” thing early in the year? I hate to see Donnie Baseball get the dumped-on treatment out in LA, but I guess it would have been times 1,000 if he had actually gotten the Yankees job after 2007.

  47. Bronx Jeers September 22nd, 2010 at 10:07 am

    Donnie’s is definitely walking into the proverbial buzzsaw but he’s gotta get some experience somewhere.

    I really hope he keeps that team competitive because I think the Dodgers org. will fire him without batting an eyelash if things go south too quickly. He’s basically a scapegoat manager in waiting.

  48. pat September 22nd, 2010 at 10:09 am

    SJ

    Joe bringing up the Mattingly situation in that interview was my biggest cringe worthy moment because it had little to do with the conversation at hand.

    A PR savvy Torre wouldn’t have done a presser in NY. He would have attended the memorial and rode out the year in LA before talking. Instead he got caught up in being Joe Torre circa 2004, media darling but just not quite as Teflon this go around.

  49. Eduardo September 22nd, 2010 at 10:10 am

    Donnie BB should get at least a year’s worth of rope

  50. blake September 22nd, 2010 at 10:11 am

    MTU,

    Sorry for the delay…I actually had to work for a minute there. I think a lot depends on what Andy does….if he comes back then I think you probably trade Nova as he wouldn’t have a spot in the rotation and the fact that his trade value is pretty good right now. If Andy retires then I think you keep him and slot him into that 5 spot next year and hope he increases his value as either a future rotation option in NY or via trade….the important thing is that he’s given the Yankees some good options for the winter.

  51. SJ44 September 22nd, 2010 at 10:11 am

    Pat,

    Exactly. Its why all the talk radio chatter yesterday about him returning to the Yankees is misplaced.

    Just because the Steinbrenner Family, and Cashman to a lesser degree, extended an olive branch to him, it doesn’t mean they wish to employ him again.

  52. Erica in NY September 22nd, 2010 at 10:12 am

    Eduardo September 22nd, 2010 at 10:03 am
    Erica in NY September 22nd, 2010 at 10:00 am

    ?I actually like Michael Kay?

    Have you listened to Michael Kay, or do you watch the games with no volume?

    *****************

    I do listen. I find him entertaining and I usually agree with a lot of things he says

  53. MTU September 22nd, 2010 at 10:14 am

    Blake-

    No problem on the delay but should you be drinking at work. :)

    Yup. the Yankees have all kinds on options, and more on the way.

    Good thing they took out that extra insurance for Montero.

    He can do a lot of damage to free standing objects.

  54. sunny615 September 22nd, 2010 at 10:25 am

    Where did you read/see/hear about Marte’s possible return?

    As far as the “rest of the pen”, I don’t know why, but Gaudin really makes me nervous. Mitre even moreso. After this series, I’d give Ring and Alabadejo a look and see what they can do. (Or if there’s a blow out). Javy should get a spot, Moseley should get consideration as well. (Both for long man).

  55. Phil in Columbus September 22nd, 2010 at 10:26 am

    I don’t have any problems with Michael Kay. I will say he is better with Paulie and Al in the booth with him because their whit tends to put him in his place. Anytime Kay frustrates me I just listen to Ken Harrelson, Jerry Remy and the Rays broadcasters and think we don’t have it so bad.

  56. 108 stitches September 22nd, 2010 at 10:27 am

    If Marte is ready to pitch, it’s been the best kept secret in baseball. There’s barely been any sightings of him, much less throwing.
    Sooner or later Girardi has to use Royce Ring to find out if he can contribute. One lefty out of the pen is not enough to combat the LH hitting the Yankees will see in the postseason. Using Logan too early takes a weapon right out of Girardi’s hands.

  57. BIG AL September 22nd, 2010 at 10:32 am

    MTU -

    Did you get my E-mail? Good morning.

  58. MTU September 22nd, 2010 at 10:36 am

    Al-

    Good morning to you as well.

    I did. Thanks. I apologize for not getting back with you yet.

  59. blake September 22nd, 2010 at 10:39 am

    MTU,

    I really shouldn’t ;)

  60. Don Vito A. Bellamo September 22nd, 2010 at 10:41 am

    Super start to these last games against quality teams ! Imagine the confidence we are going to have after sweeping out the Rays, then welcoming that completely hopeless RedSux to town to put a dagger in them, too ! If Nova can give us 5 good innings on Saturday and we have a rested pen to take the game home, I smell a 7-0 final homestand, with HUGE momentum heading to Toronto where we clinch the AL East and make those last 3 games at Boston completely meaningless. When that happens, it is time to rest all the regulars, because I don’t trust for ONE SECOND that the BoSux pitchers, especially Beck@$$ won’t be purposefully “wild” and be plunking Yankees all weekend, the bastages ! :-)

  61. Don Vito A. Bellamo September 22nd, 2010 at 10:41 am

    that = the (oops)

  62. West Coast Yankee Fan September 22nd, 2010 at 10:44 am

    I would be hard pressed to think it matters much whether Vazquez, Moseley, Gaudin or Mitre are on the post-season roster. (I do not believe Nova being a 23 year old with little experience in the show will be trusted in November) If any of them play an important role, we are toast. They are all average pitchers at best so take your pick.

    We will win IMO with our primary starters and relievers pitching well and by scoring a lot. If as I saw glimpses of last night, our lineup is starting to click on all cylinders, no one can beat us. The weak link is Teixeira right now due to injuries. I sure hope we clinch soon and rest him to get rid of that thumb bruise.

  63. BIG AL September 22nd, 2010 at 10:47 am

    MTU -

    I’ll have to picture you digging deep into one of those caves you visit, looking for just the right pics.

  64. UnKnown September 22nd, 2010 at 10:48 am

    Hopefully AJ doesn’t show up tonight with a broken nose or something. Win tonight and set up Carsten Charles to win the division with another win tomorrow.

  65. Wave Your Hat September 22nd, 2010 at 10:49 am

    If the Diamondbacks would trade Justin Upton, he’d be worth just about anything the Yanks could give up for him. Granderson and Hughes. Granderson, Nova and Betances. Gardner and Hughes. Just about whatever, and overpaying, as long as it is overpaying in an area of Yankee depth, like pitching, would be OK.

    But the D-Backs won’t trade Upton. I’d look at Rasmus or Braun.

  66. BIG AL September 22nd, 2010 at 10:49 am

    MTU -

    Do you think Upton will be available from AZ? T thought he was a bit of a head case, similar to his brother in Tampa. Where would he fit?

  67. BIG AL September 22nd, 2010 at 10:50 am

    Later – the boss just called, she needs my help.

  68. Jason Voorhees September 22nd, 2010 at 10:52 am

    There’s no way Upton is available. You’d have to give up the world to get him. He’s only 22 and the DBacks have him locked up for a while for pretty cheap.

  69. blake September 22nd, 2010 at 10:53 am

    I don’t think the Yankee outfield is that much of a problem for the near future. If you could upgrade it through a deal strictly dealing excess then possibly I’d consider it…again I don’t consider Hughes excess though.

  70. Wave Your Hat September 22nd, 2010 at 10:54 am

    blake-

    You have to trade quality to get quality.

  71. RMS September 22nd, 2010 at 10:55 am

    I like Javy out of the pen rather than Gaudin, who the Yankees cut earlier this year, or Mitre. Does Girardi?

    Wouldn’t trade Nova unless I package him and get back a very good player. Nova has good stuff and pitches with no fear.

    Kay is terrible. He acts like he is doing his radio show. And with Leiter and O’Neill they talk non-stop about nothing pertaining to the game. The game seems like an after-thought.

  72. PagsandRags September 22nd, 2010 at 10:55 am

    I thought Albaladejo could have been given the ninth inning last night. I don’t know why Girardi had to stay with Joba, probably making him unavailable for tonight. Mix some of these other guys in there with a 5 run lead!

  73. PagsandRags September 22nd, 2010 at 10:59 am

    I think the Yankees are going to sign Carl Crawford, although I don’t really know why. What do you do with Brett Gardner if CC plays LF, Grandy in CF and Swisher in RF? You can’t DH him because you figure you’ll need the DH open for Posada/A-Rod/other player added in the offseason. It should be an interesting offseason but let’s focus on the task at hand right now which is to win #28.

  74. blake September 22nd, 2010 at 10:59 am

    Wave, that’s true but I don’t see the outfield being enough of an issue anymore to consider trading a 24 year old starter with Phil’s upside. I see your point but I wouldn’t do it..

  75. CountryClub September 22nd, 2010 at 11:00 am

    I find it interesting that there’s an agent out there that thinks Mo is only going to get $10 a yr. That guy is nuts. From heyman’s article this am:

    Here’s a closer look at the top free agents and what one executive and one agent predicted they would get.

    1. Crawford, Rays OF. A terrific all-around player who’s batting .305 with 15 home runs, 82 RBIs and 44 stolen bases and is at 29 is in his prime now. The Rays made an offer but just can’t afford this type of player. The Yankees and Angels could be among many bidders. Maybe the Giants, too.

    Executive: $126 million, 7 years. Agent 1: $120 million, 7 yrs. Agent 2: $96 million, 6 years. Me: $115 million, 7 years.

    2. Lee, Rangers SP. It’s been a tale of two seasons for Lee, who came to Texas hailed as one of the game’s best pitchers, if not the very best after going 8-3 with a 2.34 ERA for Seattle. A balky back appears to have limited his effectiveness in Texas, where he’s 4-5 with a 4.10 ERA. He’s clutch and never had arm trouble, though.

    Executive: $108 million, six years, Agent 1: $100 million, six years. Agent 2: $105 million, 5 years. Me: $120 million, six years.

    3. Werth, Phillies OF. Boras mentioned how Werth played center field the month Shane Victorino was out, and that will clearly be a selling point. Werth is a very good all-around player but not quite the hitter Holliday is.

    Executive: $85 million, five years, Agent 1: $80 million, 5 years. Agent 2: $96 million, 6 years. Me: $90 million, five years.

    4. Jeter, Yankees SS. “You are paying for more than performance, you are paying for legacy,” one executive said.

    Executive: $60 million, 3 years. Agent 1: $50 million, 2 years. Agent 2: $100 million, 5 years. Me: $60 million, 3 years.

    5. Adam Dunn, Nationals 1B. Consistent but one dimensional power hitter has said he believes he will work something out to remain in Washington.

    Executive: $60 million, four years. Agent 1: $25 million, 2 years. Agent 2: $42 million, 3 years. Me: $25 million, two years.

    6. Beltre, Red Sox 3B. Superb defender has set himself up nicely with another big walk year.

    Executive: $48 million, 4 years. Agent 1: $30 million, three years. Agent 2: $42 million, 3 years. Me: $40 million, 3 years.

    7. Victor Martinez, Red Sox C. Superb offensive player (.296, 18, 73) Boston hopes to bring back, though their initial two-year offer was rejected. Some teams don’t like him as a catcher, but a few do, including Boston.

    Executive: $48 million, four years. Agent 1: $60 million, 4 years. Me: $36 million, three years.

    8. Rivera, Yankees RP. Boras mentioned how Soriano is the best closer available since Rivera seven years ago. Well, Rivera’s available again.

    Executive: $40 million, 2 yrs. Agent 1: $20 million, 2 years. Agent 2: $40 million, 2 years. Me: $36 million, 2 years.

    9. Konerko, White Sox 1B. Big year at the right time.

    Executive: 36 million, 3 years. Agent 1: $36 million, 3 years. Agent 2: $42 million, 3 years. Me: $30 million, 2 years.

    10. Carlos Pena, Rays 1B. Poor batting average (.201) could hurt him.

    Executive: $36 million, 3 years. Agent 1: $33 million, 3 years. Agent: Me: $20 million, two years.

    Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....z10GpSl0ES

  76. Erica in NY September 22nd, 2010 at 11:03 am

    4. Jeter, Yankees SS. ?You are paying for more than performance, you are paying for legacy,? one executive said.

    Executive: $60 million, 3 years. Agent 1: $50 million, 2 years. Agent 2: $100 million, 5 years. Me: $60 million, 3 years.
    **************

    Is Agent #2 Scott Boras or Jeter’s agent???

    Just goes to show you that no one has any clue what will happen there

  77. Andrew September 22nd, 2010 at 11:04 am

    If Albaladejo self-destructs in the 9th inning then Girardi has used Joba and he doesn’t have another trustworthy/good reliever available to put out the fire. Rivera, Wood, Robertson and Logan were all in need of a day off. Joba was the one valuable bullpen arm available and 5 runs, while a nice lead, was no sure-thing to not be reduced to 3 or 2 runs, creating a bit of a nightmare. They will be able to avoid Joba tonight with a few of the other guys available again, and tomorrow you hope CC gives length and much of the pen gets a rest.

  78. CountryClub September 22nd, 2010 at 11:04 am

    17. Andy Pettitte, Yankees SP. Always a chance he could retire.

    Executive: $12 million, 1 year. Agent 1: $10 million, 1 year. Agent 2: $12 million, 1 year. Me: $13 million, 1 year.

    21. Johnny Damon, Tigers OF. Decent but not great year with the Tigers in which he’s hit .267 with eight home runs and 10 stolen bases.

    Executive: $4 million, 1 year. Agent 1: $6 million, 1 year. Agent 2: $18 million, 2 years. Me: $7 million, 1 year.

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  79. CountryClub September 22nd, 2010 at 11:05 am

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  80. Erica in NY September 22nd, 2010 at 11:06 am

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  81. Phil in Columbus September 22nd, 2010 at 11:07 am

    Upton is locked up until 2015. He does get a little pricey in the last two years at 14.5 mil per. Braun is the best value in baseball IMO. 8yrs/45mil. He like Upton can become a free agent in 2016. I don’t think the Yanks have a need in the outfield. The key for the Yanks next year is signing Lee, getting one more year out of Andy, sign Berkman and Wood and find a right handed hitting outfielder than can play the corner positions off the bench.

  82. blake September 22nd, 2010 at 11:09 am

    I think Heyman may actually be close on Jeter….3 years 60 million sounds about right…maybe an option for 4th.

  83. West Coast Yankee Fan September 22nd, 2010 at 11:10 am

    The 800 pound gorilla in the room and greatest unknown is what Hal Steinbrenner’s financial commitment will be going forward. All the talk about who is available and what they would cost is fun but meaningless and is like playing with monopoly money until Hal makes that decision. This year he handed Cashman a budget and that was that. It is what resulted in Randy Winn and a $2.9 million bench.

  84. MTU September 22nd, 2010 at 11:11 am

    Re Upton:

    It was just fantasy trade material.

    If you really did want him a package of GGBG, Joba, Nova, and Romine would probably get it done.

    Would it be worth it ?

    Guess that depends on how high you think JU can fly. :)

  85. Andrew September 22nd, 2010 at 11:12 am

    There is no chance the Yankees sign Berkman; Wood with the way he’s pitched will be closing for someone in 2011, unless he takes less money to stay in NY (really unlikely). Yankees needs going into the offseason should be SP, catcher, right-handed OF and perhaps a reserve infielder that can both hit and play 3rd. Also Cashman will probably take another chance on a reliever that slips through the salary cracks, and hope it works out better than Park.

  86. CountryClub September 22nd, 2010 at 11:12 am

    It’s curious that everyone suggested Matsui getting equal or less money than Damon when Matsui had the much better yr.

  87. pat September 22nd, 2010 at 11:13 am

    Agent 2 seems to value Boras clients higher than anyone else and undervalues Crawford more than others. Hmmm. :wink:

    $20M for Mo is more than I would have guesstimated.

  88. CountryClub September 22nd, 2010 at 11:14 am

    The Yankees are never going to start a yr with a good bench because “good” players arent going to take part time roles with the Yanks when they know they’ll never play. It’s why fans shouldn’t worry about the bench until after the trade deadline. The past couple of yrs they upgraded the bench and pen through trade and promotion at mid yr.

  89. West Coast Yankee Fan September 22nd, 2010 at 11:16 am

    Andrew I agree with the exception of catcher. Posada, Cervelli and Montero will get it done. This year showed we have an aging team and with Jeter and A-Rod around next year it’s only going to be more important we have a deep bench. That depends on Hal.

  90. Wave Your Hat September 22nd, 2010 at 11:16 am

    My ridiculously premature keys to the Yank off-season:

    1. Sign Lee.

    2. Re-sign Andy.

    3. Obtain a young outfielder who hits for both average and power, to bat somewhere between 2 and 6 in the lineup, who doesn’t have a high injury risk.

    4. Find a back-up infielder who hits well enough to fill in successfully for ARod or Derek if need be.

  91. Patrick September 22nd, 2010 at 11:18 am

    Oh yay, offseason talk. Does that mean everyone has stopped panicking about this year’s team? Some of you are so fickle…

    Priority #1 is to sign Cliff Lee.

    Priority #2 is the lock up Jeter and Rivera.

    After that, Cashman can do whatever. I hope he at least tries to sign Wood. Kerry might want to go somewhere else for a closing job but he’s been really good on this team. Also, I like the outfield fine the way it is but I’d be open to trading one of Gardner/Granderson for a young, high-ceiling OF.

  92. West Coast Yankee Fan September 22nd, 2010 at 11:18 am

    Country club, it depends what you pay them, and, they are going to play.

  93. Wave Your Hat September 22nd, 2010 at 11:19 am

    MTU-

    I don’t see that package getting Upton. It sounds like a lot, but the D-Backs are going to want someone with a top-end ceiling if they trade Upton. Which they won’t anyway.

  94. PittsburghYankeeFan September 22nd, 2010 at 11:20 am

    Lee: $115 million x 6, frontloaded

    Andy: $12.5 million x 1

    Mo: $15 million x 1

    Jeter: $60 million x 3

    Matsui: $4.5 million x 1 (yes, he’s coming back)

    Payroll is maybe $10 million more in 2011.

  95. Phil in Columbus September 22nd, 2010 at 11:24 am

    Will be intresting to see what happens with Choo in Cleveland. He is arbitration eligible and now has Boras as his agent. If the Yanks were to give up talent to get an outfielder, he would look great in pinstripes.

  96. CountryClub September 22nd, 2010 at 11:24 am

    West Coast,

    They’re not going to play. There are no AB’s in the OF unless you can convince a RH hitter that he’d get regular time. Cano and Tex play every day. Jeter and Arod will prob start to get a day off a week starting next yr. But a good infielder isn’t going to take a bench role with the yanks to play 2 days a week.

  97. Erica in NY September 22nd, 2010 at 11:24 am

    Patrick September 22nd, 2010 at 11:18 am
    Oh yay, offseason talk. Does that mean everyone has stopped panicking about this year?s team? Some of you are so fickle?
    ************

    Winning the first two against TB apparently calmed a lot of the mass hysteria

  98. BIG AL September 22nd, 2010 at 11:24 am

    Jason Werth has much better career numbers than Upton, and would only cost money, not players. Yes, Werth is older, but, he should have 5 good years left.

    I’d rather get a FA and keep my young players, IMO.

  99. Andrew September 22nd, 2010 at 11:24 am

    West Coast, it’s just my opinion but I would prefer to not go into Spring Training virtually handing Cervelli a chunk of playing time again. Not if it’s possible to sign someone who represents an upgrade and fits into the budget and other needs of the offseason. Yes he (Cervelli) is way cheaper than signing someone, but I think Posada’s age should dictate having a better plan in place for that position.

    Montero is obviously the wild card, but to me I would prefer they did not go into into 2011 expecting him to break camp with the team, and had 3 other ML-proven catchers around. Then he can go to AAA and continue mashing at the plate, keep working on his D, and then whenever the inevitable roster fluctuation occurs (a catcher hits the DL, the newly-signed guy stinks, Cervelli continues to stink), he gets the call-up in May and begins getting time as DH/C.

  100. MTU September 22nd, 2010 at 11:24 am

    WYH-

    GGBG is not exactly mashed potatoes if you believe he can maintain or even add to his current level of production.

    Joba still has upside.

    Nova has upside.

    And romine certainly has a ton of upside.

    If that wouldn’t cut it add one more from a list. We have plenty of trade chips.

    What would be your proposal to get their attention ?

    Remeber also that Towers knows our system now.

  101. michaelpr September 22nd, 2010 at 11:26 am

    My prediction.

    Jeter – $80m, 4 years
    Mo – $20m, 1 year or $36m, 2 years
    Lee – $90m, 5 years

    That puts the payroll at $200m, then add the arbitration guys and some bench players and you are looking at another $10m – pretty close to where we are this year. I really only see Pettitte coming back if we don’t sign Lee. I just don’t see where there is money to do so. However…. if Jeter and Mo each took $5 less per year, then I could see Andy coming back.

  102. Wave Your Hat September 22nd, 2010 at 11:27 am

    MTU-

    I already said, but no one likes the truth. :)

  103. BIG AL September 22nd, 2010 at 11:28 am

    The Yankees already heve 2 good young infielders under control to be back-ups next year, Pena & Nunez, no need to go outside.

  104. MTU September 22nd, 2010 at 11:31 am

    WYH-

    Just for the sake of discussion. Let’s just say that package or one like it was good enough to get you a young toolsy CF’er.

    Of the ones I list below which one would interest you the most ? :

    Upton

    Rasmus

    Kemp

    Braun

  105. JM September 22nd, 2010 at 11:32 am

    The Yankees really need Andy to pitch well in order to go deep in the playoffs. Duh.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....?eref=sihp

  106. Erica in NY September 22nd, 2010 at 11:32 am

    MTU September 22nd, 2010 at 11:24 am
    WYH-

    GGBG is not exactly mashed potatoes if you believe he can maintain or even add to his current level of production.
    ***************

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  107. MTU September 22nd, 2010 at 11:34 am

    Erica-

    Me too ! Nothing wrong with ‘em especially with peas and gravy. :)

  108. West Coast Yankee Fan September 22nd, 2010 at 11:35 am

    CountryClub
    September 22nd, 2010 at 11:24 am

    West Coast. They’re not going to play. There are no AB’s in the OF unless you can convince a RH hitter that he’d get regular time. Cano and Tex play every day. Jeter and Arod will prob start to get a day off a week starting next yr. But a good infielder isn’t going to take a bench role with the yanks to play 2 days a week.

    ****************

    I don’t agree. I think there are plenty of ballplayers that want the shot to win a ring and again, it depends what you pay them.

    …and Big Al. Pena and Nunez can’t hit. When A-Rod sits you lose to much.

    If this year taught Yankee fans anything it’s that we are not getting any younger and that injuries are going to happen.

  109. pat September 22nd, 2010 at 11:35 am

    Mo is currently making $15M.

    What am I missing that people think he warrants a $5M raise to bring him to $20M?

  110. Wave Your Hat September 22nd, 2010 at 11:39 am

    MTU-

    I think Upton would be the conventional first choice, and that would be my choice too. I like the potential high average/power/defense combo, who doesn’t?

  111. BIG AL September 22nd, 2010 at 11:41 am

    What am I missing concerning all that want, or think Rasmus is worth getting, no less giving up so much talent to get?

    He SO nearly 32% of his AB this year, is batting .273 with 23 HR.

    Again, Werth’s numbers are better, and he cost money, not players.

    With the attitude problems Rasmus has had, I don’t see him as a fit in the Yankees clubhouse, IMO.

  112. MTU September 22nd, 2010 at 11:41 am

    WYH-

    Thanks for your thoughts. I don’t always agree with you but I appreciate them nonetheless.

    You have a lot of contrarian in you. Must be the City air. :)

  113. Wave Your Hat September 22nd, 2010 at 11:45 am

    MTU-

    If we all agreed it would be really dull!

  114. MTU September 22nd, 2010 at 11:47 am

    Al-

    Personally, I’m not a big Werth fan but I see your point on him not costing in the way of anything other than money.

    Those other players are a lot younger, some with much greater upside.

    We can’t hold onto all of our young talent and it is prudent to use some of them in trades at the proper moment and for the proper purpose.

    IMO, the Rasmus thing is overblown.

    We could certainly argue over when, and for who no question about that.

  115. MTU September 22nd, 2010 at 11:48 am

    WYH-

    This is true. I was only teasing. :)

  116. BIG AL September 22nd, 2010 at 11:52 am

    MTU -

    My concern with Rasmus, his SO are much higher this season than last. When a player SO 32% of his AB, that is not productive. One would have thought in his second season the SO total would be going down, not up. Yes, getting young players with potential high upside is great, but getting a proven player with proven upside is better for me, if I’m the Yankees.

  117. BIG AL September 22nd, 2010 at 11:53 am

    Got to run, things to do, and places to go. Catch you all later.

  118. MTU September 22nd, 2010 at 11:56 am

    AL-

    Understand. I’m not that big of a Rasmus supporter I would rather have Upton myself. Just think what Long could do with a guy like Rasmus or Upton. Scary.

    I really want the Yankees to continue with the youth movement.

    A mix of youth and veterans is good with a slightly greater tilt towards youth.

  119. SJ44 September 22nd, 2010 at 12:03 pm

    I don’t think the Yankees see their OF as a problem going into next year.

    They like what they are seeing in Granderson and believe he will be even better next year.

    Heard the other day they will try and sign Wood this off-season.

    Jeter and Rivera will be back and I believe they will sign Cliff Lee.

  120. SJ44 September 22nd, 2010 at 12:06 pm

    The Cardinals GM has already said that he will not trade Rasmus.

    Upton and Braun also won’t be on the market.

    Neither will Choo, IMO.

    It’s why I don’t see the Yankees doing anything significant re: their OF in the off-season.

  121. Vineyard Yankee September 22nd, 2010 at 12:51 pm

    In the subterranean of Yankee Stadium dust off those presses, ink up the rollers and prep some of that paper to roll out some fresh new greenbacks. Sign em all and absolutely kick butt for the next 5 years.

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  122. David in Cal September 22nd, 2010 at 6:12 pm

    I like what you’re saying, SJ44. Adding an outfielder would only be a small upgrade, since the 3 outfielders they have are pretty good. Adding Lee and keeping Wood can make a big difference vs. the alternatives.

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