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Lightning striking twice

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Sep 23, 2010 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

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Spike emailed that picture last night. It was obviously taken during the storm and, yes, I used it to justify a headline about tonight’s pitching matchup.

It’s impossible to know what last night’s game might have been. A.J. Burnett was limited to three innings because of the rain and the Yankees had to lean on a string of relievers who had hardly been used the past two weeks. Aside from Royce Ring, none of them had an especially good night.

Which leaves tonight. The final regular season game between the Yankees and Rays will be a rematch of last week’s terrific pitching matchup between CC Sabathia and David Price. If you saw it the first time, it’s probably going to be worth seeing again. Hard to imagine either team would pick anyone else to have on the mound.

If it comes down to the bullpens again, the Yankees should have Kerry Wood, Boone Logan and Mariano Rivera available. All three had the past two days off. Dave Robertson’s availability might depend on his sore lower back, and Joba Chamberlain would be iffy at best. He was off yesterday, but before that he pitched three out of four, and Girardi has said he wants to give his relievers two days off after they’ve gone three out of four. Whether that changes because the back-to-back games were at the beginning instead of the end of the four games, I have no idea.

Regardless, the Yankees will lean on Sabathia as long as possible. If they win tonight, taking three out of four will have been a huge success. If they lose, it’s easy to remember what Lance Berkman said on the last day in Baltimore: “In a four-game series, usually if it’s two good teams it’s 2-2 and then we’re right back where we were and nobody gains any ground.”

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98 Responses to “Lightning striking twice”

  1. Fran the original September 23rd, 2010 at 9:12 am

    Awesome picture.

    CC is certainly the cure for an overworked bullpen. He is usually good for at least 7 innings.

  2. sunny615 September 23rd, 2010 at 9:13 am

    Repost:

    very true kate, and I acknowledged that – but it’s disheartening to see these guys make appearances in the 4th and 5th innings… especially in a tight ball game against a team that’s literally right behind you in the standings. These are the times when I really miss having Aceves in the pen. The Yanks have really missed his arm this year and probably would have a better record if he had been healthy all year. These games are the ones you have to win – especially now… and I don’t know about the rest of you – but when I see Gaudin and Moseley in the game after the 3rd inning – it’s going to be a bad game. (Even tho this time it was because of extenuating circumstances)

    Erica – like I mentioned above – if I could have included Aceves in there, nothing is wrong with that. But whenever I see Gaudin on the mound, I am filled with feelings of dread.

    Lots of it.

    Maybe I’m being overly dramatic here, but Gaudin on the mound to me equals punted game.

  3. upstate kate September 23rd, 2010 at 9:13 am

    Sunny
    have to agree…Ace certainly is missed…and when I see Gaudin, I get that feeling that I used to get whenever farnsworth came out to pitch

  4. 108 stitches September 23rd, 2010 at 9:20 am

    Ring pitched a clean 1 2/3 innings. Girardi should have stuck with him after he issued a walk to Jaso with 2 outs. Instead Girardi brings in the RH Mosely to pitch to the LH hitting Zobrist and Crawford. Not a good percentage move.

  5. SJ44 September 23rd, 2010 at 9:20 am

    Last night was a rain game. That’s just bad luck.

    It’s also more important right now to get the core bullpen guys as much rest as possible over the next 10 days.

    Chamberlain, Robertson, Wood, Logan and Rivera is MORE than enough of a bullpen in the post-season.

    Especially when you only play two games in a row before having a day off.

    Last night actually worked out ok for the Yankees.

    If the game was closer, Girardi may have been tempted to use one of the core bullpen guys last night and that would have been a mistake.

    “Thankfully”, the other guys were bad enough not to make that happen.

  6. pat September 23rd, 2010 at 9:21 am

    Fran

    100 years old God bless her. Sorry for your loss.

    “I think a lot about why some of the guys in the bullpen suck is because they never pitch.”

    Catch 22- If they had faith they would be good, they would pitch them.

  7. SJ44 September 23rd, 2010 at 9:23 am

    Ring was coming up on a high pitch count.

    He had not pitched in a while and he was at over 21 pitches.

    That’s danger territory for a situational lefty who doesn’t throw that many pitches.

    In fact, that’s how Marte originally hurt his shoulder in Texas (after an over 35 pitch outing) and hasn’t been the same since.

  8. Fran the original September 23rd, 2010 at 9:24 am

    Pat, thank you for your kind words.

  9. MTU September 23rd, 2010 at 9:25 am

    Fran-

    My sympathy on your loss.

  10. upstate kate September 23rd, 2010 at 9:26 am

    SJ
    do you think Ring makes the post season roster? or can they get by w/o another lefty specialist?

  11. Fran the original September 23rd, 2010 at 9:29 am

    Thank you MTU.

  12. Phil in Columbus September 23rd, 2010 at 9:29 am

    Fran
    Sorry to hear about your loss. May she rest in peace.

    A bullpen of Mo,Wood,Joba,Robertson,Logan,Ring,Vazquez and Nova sure looks good to me.

  13. Doreen September 23rd, 2010 at 9:29 am

    What a great picture!

  14. Fran the original September 23rd, 2010 at 9:31 am

    Thank you Phil

  15. Yogi Mantle September 23rd, 2010 at 9:33 am

    Being that I’m feeling under the weather, I’m not all that upset over last night’s game. The Yankee offense wasn’t looking all that well, the BP was giving up every run they gained and then some, so I took the opportunity to go to bed earlier.

    With HFA being dependent on the record you post, it seems quite unfair not to have a balanced schedule. With a balanced schedule the Twinkies wouldn’t be tied for best record.

    What really irks me is how other teams that are playing in fairly uncompetitive divisions get praise heaped on them, while they are getting fat off of weak teams. The Twinkies play in the Central, for them to keep making it back to the post season is more a reflection on how weak that division has been for a while now.

    They are a good team, but how good would they be with balanced schedules? Even if they end up moving on in the post season, it doesn’t mean they are the “best” team. Especially with a short series.

  16. JCPD September 23rd, 2010 at 9:34 am

    Fran, my condolences to you.

  17. SJ44 September 23rd, 2010 at 9:35 am

    Fran,

    Very sorry for your loss.

  18. Erica in NY September 23rd, 2010 at 9:36 am

    Here’s a column from Yahoo about why this dude feels this series between The Yankees and TB doesn’t matter at all

    http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/ne.....kees092210

    Clearly he has never come on this blog!

  19. SJ44 September 23rd, 2010 at 9:37 am

    Kate,

    Too early to say. I would guess he will get in a few more games as they continue to evaluate him.

    I also believe it will be dependent on the matchup. If its the Twins with their lefty hitters, they may want to carry another lefty.

    That is of course, if they feel that lefty can do the job.

  20. Phil in Columbus September 23rd, 2010 at 9:39 am

    Yogi Mantle
    Good point about the schuedule. Both the Rangers and Twins have losing records against the East, while they have winning records against the other 2. The Yanks and Rays have winning records against the all 3.

  21. CountryClub September 23rd, 2010 at 9:39 am

    It’s time to start dialing back CC’s workload too. There’s no reason for him to throw 115 pitches tonight.

  22. SJ44 September 23rd, 2010 at 9:43 am

    Erica,

    I think its all about balance at this point.

    Frankly, the Yankees threw away 3 games on the last roadtrip that dictates every move now.

    If they had those wins, the division would be in good hands and they could play these games differently.

    Now? Its MUCH more important not to overwork this bullpen right now than it is to win the division and get HFA.

    That’s unfortunate because this team doesn’t hit much on the road. But, that’s the way it is.

    Ideally, they win the next two games, clinch a playoff spot, and sit Tex for 3-4 days to try and help him heal.

    In addition, they look to rest the core guys in the pen as much as possible.

    If they win the next two games, that’s the way I would play it and if HFA and the division falls to them, all the better.

  23. MTU September 23rd, 2010 at 9:45 am

    Yeah. And it must be nice to win a division by 8 games with a .556 winning percentage.

  24. Doreen September 23rd, 2010 at 9:45 am

    SJ44 -

    I think Royce Ring did himself a nice favor by being effective last night. It was a great opportunity to see what he had to offer; he surely earned himself at least another look-see or two. And then they can assess whether he’s a usable piece in the playoffs.

  25. CountryClub September 23rd, 2010 at 9:46 am

    Resting Wood, Logan and Mo for a 2nd straight game last night was good. He could have brought one of those guys in to start the 7th when the game was 3-2. At that point it was anybody’s game. But he went with gaudin and the rest is history.

  26. LGY September 23rd, 2010 at 9:47 am

    This is going to be unpopular and I have to fun so it will be fun to see the responses when I get back :)

    At no point this season did I want Tex or Jeter dropped in the lineup. However if Tex continues to look this bad at the plate over the next 2 weeks I would move him down for the playoffs.

  27. CountryClub September 23rd, 2010 at 9:47 am

    What Ring did last night was probably earn himself more opportunities over the next 10 games. If he continues to pitch well he’d have a shot at making the roster.

  28. CountryClub September 23rd, 2010 at 9:49 am

    Tex is a creature of habit. These nagging injuries have prevented him from going through his normal pregame routines. I don’t expect him to get hot the rest of the way. He’ll come up with a big hit here or there and play fine defense. But I doubt he gets on any kind of streak. And there’s no way they drop him in the lineup.

  29. Fran the original September 23rd, 2010 at 9:51 am

    SJ, Thank you

  30. SJ44 September 23rd, 2010 at 9:52 am

    Dropping a guy to start the post-season is not the way to go into the post-season.

    It needlessly messes with his head.

    Especially since they didn’t do it all season.

    You don’t make a change like that for the post-season because it becomes an unwarranted distraction and problem you just don’t need.

  31. West Coast Yankee Fan September 23rd, 2010 at 10:00 am

    The genius that is Mike Axisa. (especially the headline)

    “Garbage Pitchers In Non-Garbage Time”.

    “It just makes Girardi seem hypocritical to go with the garbage time relievers in a close game after he said “Our goal is to win the division” that afternoon. I have no trouble with him resting guys before the postseason, none at all, but the walk and the talk don’t match right now”.

  32. Phil in Columbus September 23rd, 2010 at 10:03 am

    I think Tex needs a few days in a row off, not dropped in the lineup. Sit him the next 4 games and play Swish at first. Helps rest Nick’s knee as well. Also wish that Joe would just leave Swisher in the 2 hole and quit moving him around. His power in the 2 hole is an advantage that no team has in their lineup.

  33. MTU September 23rd, 2010 at 10:03 am

    To big Men on the hill tonite.

    Battle of the Titans.

    Dreams and hopes of a season on their shoulders.

    Both Cy young contenders.

    Which one will emerge victorious ?

    I just like the way Cy.Cy. Sabbathia sounds. :)

  34. West Coast Yankee Fan September 23rd, 2010 at 10:06 am

    By the way, here’s a reality check on what a “healthy” Mark Teixeira did in the post-season in 2009:

    Division Series – .167 BA and .231 OBP

    League Championship Series – .222 BA and .290 OBP

    World Series – .136 BA and .296 OBP

  35. MTU September 23rd, 2010 at 10:06 am

    And by the way, It wouldn’t hurt my feelings any if the offense came alive again. ;)

  36. CountryClub September 23rd, 2010 at 10:07 am

    Sabathia said his preference would be to rest between tonight’s start and his final regular-season start and then enter his playoff start on normal rest. That would mean his next start after tonight would come on Oct. 1 in Boston. Sabathia said too much rest before that first playoff start is not a good thing.

    Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports.....z10MU11CkC

  37. raymagnetic September 23rd, 2010 at 10:09 am

    If the Yankees had managed to tie the game or take the lead then Girardi likely would have used his better relievers.

    Wouldn’t have made sense to burn his bullpen and then the team not make a comeback. I think Girardi made the right move by not going with Wood in the 7th when the team was trailing.

    CC pitches tonight and he usually pitches great at home while David Price has a 3.62 ERA on the road which is 1.5 runs higher than his home ERA.

    Therefore I like the Yankees chances at home and now he has a well rested pen to lean on this evening.

    CC to Wood to Mo. Goodnight!

  38. MTU September 23rd, 2010 at 10:10 am

    Ray-

    You’re only forgetting one thing.

    The offense has to show up again.

  39. raymagnetic September 23rd, 2010 at 10:11 am

    In 2008 Mark Teixeira had a .467 batting average in the playoffs against Boston.

    Therefore, your 2009 playoff numbers mean absolutely zilch to me.

  40. raymagnetic September 23rd, 2010 at 10:11 am

    MTU,

    I’m expecting them to hammer young Mr. Price tonight. :)

  41. MTU September 23rd, 2010 at 10:12 am

    Ray-

    From your mouth to G-d’s ears. I sure would love to see that ! :)

  42. CountryClub September 23rd, 2010 at 10:15 am

    What exactly did Axisa say wrong there? He said he has no problem with them resting their best pitchers but that Girardi shouldn’t then come out after the game and say that they’re trying to win the division.

    If there was no wild card and the Yanks were really trying to win the division, you can bet different pitchers would have pitched last night.

  43. ConcernedCitizen September 23rd, 2010 at 10:15 am

    That Yahoo Sports article is BS. Girardi used less experienced pitchers because there was a rain delay and he was resting his top brass for the big show tomorrow. An empty stadium after a (long) rain delay and new relievers doesn’t equate a meaningless series.

  44. SJ44 September 23rd, 2010 at 10:16 am

    Quoting small post-season sample sizes remind me of all the people on here last year who “knew” CC and Arod would come up small in the post-season by quoting their post-season.

    If you don’t know how to use statistics properly, its a smarter play not to use them.

    Small sample sizes mean squat in the post-season.

    Anybody or any team can get hot for 2-3 weeks and have success.

    That may be too random for some to accept but, that’s just the way it is.

  45. West Coast Yankee Fan September 23rd, 2010 at 10:20 am

    raymagnetic
    September 23rd, 2010 at 10:11 am

    In 2008 Mark Teixeira had a .467 batting average in the playoffs against Boston.
    Therefore, your 2009 playoff numbers mean absolutely zilch to me.

    ********************

    Oh you mean Teixeira’s 15 AB sample in 2008 as opposed to his 61 AB sample in 2009?

    Ooops!!!!

  46. West Coast Yankee Fan September 23rd, 2010 at 10:22 am

    SJ44
    September 23rd, 2010 at 10:16 am

    Quoting small post-season sample sizes remind me of all the people on here last year who “knew” CC and Arod would come up small in the post-season by quoting their post-season. If you don’t know how to use statistics properly, its a smarter play not to use them. Small sample sizes mean squat in the post-season. Anybody or any team can get hot for 2-3 weeks and have success. That may be too random for some to accept but, that’s just the way it is.

    ******************************

    Correct – and that’s why a 61 game sample size in 2009, three series, many different pitchers

  47. West Coast Yankee Fan September 23rd, 2010 at 10:24 am

    SJ44
    September 23rd, 2010 at 10:16 am

    Quoting small post-season sample sizes remind me of all the people on here last year who “knew” CC and Arod would come up small in the post-season by quoting their post-season. If you don’t know how to use statistics properly, its a smarter play not to use them. Small sample sizes mean squat in the post-season. Anybody or any team can get hot for 2-3 weeks and have success. That may be too random for some to accept but, that’s just the way it is.

    ******************************

    Correct – and that’s why a significant 61 game sample size in 2009, three series, many different pitchers at a time your team needs you to be clutch resulting in a cumulative .180 BA and .282 OBP means something.

  48. CountryClub September 23rd, 2010 at 10:24 am

    Tex didnt have a good post season last yr, nobody would argue that he did. But that doesn’t mean he won’t have a good one this yr. Of course, if my theory holds true, I think he’s going to struggle again this yr because of the injuries and many fans will move the choker label from Arod to him.

  49. West Coast Yankee Fan September 23rd, 2010 at 10:24 am

    computer glitch on 10:22 post – apologies

  50. jacksquat September 23rd, 2010 at 10:25 am

    If the game was closer, Girardi may have been tempted to use one of the core bullpen guys last night and that would have been a mistake.
    “Thankfully”, the other guys were bad enough not to make that happen.

    Closer? It was 3-2 in the 7th when he bought in Gaudin. It doesn’t get much closer. Logan, Wood and Rivera had days off. CC was going the next day. While the Yanks did not score another run, things may have been different with the TB pitchers pitching with only a one run lead.

    But that’s fine. I’d rather face the Twins in a 5 game series than Cliff Lee. I fear that guy much more than Liriano.

    But it’s fine

  51. raymagnetic September 23rd, 2010 at 10:26 am

    WCYF,

    What I’m trying to show you is that Tex has had very few postseason AB’s both years so judging how he’ll do this year based on the limited amount of AB’s he had last year is foolish.

    But you can believe what you want to believe.

  52. jacksquat September 23rd, 2010 at 10:26 am

    *some extra text in last post…

  53. West Coast Yankee Fan September 23rd, 2010 at 10:26 am

    Country cub I didn’t say there was necessarily a quid-pro-quo. I was pointing out that to date, his post-season experience in the intense glare of the Yankee spotlight has been abysmal. That’s just a fact.

    I hope he hits .700 this year.

  54. West Coast Yankee Fan September 23rd, 2010 at 10:28 am

    I never said it had anything to do with this year raymagnetic. Where did I say that? I am just stating a fact as to his past performance.

    As to sample size, Damon’s game four was pretty small, as was Matsui’s game six.

  55. Doreen September 23rd, 2010 at 10:28 am

    I don’t care what Teixeira did last year in the playoffs. It’s not even about sample size. It’s about whether a player is hot, cold or about his average performance.

    Teixeira could get hot in the post-season. Or he could continue battling his injuries and do little to help offensively. However, if he can continue to make plays like he did last night? I’ll sign up for that in a NY minute.

    Besides, ARod’s super hotness ensured that Tex’s coldness didn’t hurt the Yankees. In the playoffs you can ride one guy’s streak. Or, they could get lots of contributions. Grandy, for instance, and Berkman, have been doing well of late.

    Bottom line? Anything can happen.

  56. West Coast Yankee Fan September 23rd, 2010 at 10:32 am

    Of course, one has to play the games. The one thing about speculation in baseball is that you find out what will really happen pretty quickly.

  57. tyanksfan36 September 23rd, 2010 at 10:34 am

    That article is stupid. Girardi didn’t have a choice but to pitch his long relievers and a look at their ERA’s show that they aren’t that good. He couldn’t use wood, logan, joba, mo etc. Because that would burn them out even more. The long men are there to eat innings, that’s why they are the long men. If they had done better, that guy would have nothing to talk about.
    The thing is that it rained out the starters and no one knew what would have happened if they couldve stayed in.

    Also, I think its a great idea to rest Tex and put Swish at 1st. Maybe Thames in rt. field, swish at first. Berkman won’t play tonight with a lefty pitching. Maybe have Tex DH so he can still have a go(hasn’t faced a lefty in a while so may be a good thing). Its going to be a tough game for both teams tonight.

  58. SJ44 September 23rd, 2010 at 10:35 am

    61 AB’s is still a small sample size.

    It’s using statistics incorrectly. Which 99% of baseball fans do when quoting them.

    There is no “magic formula” or certainty when it comes to post-season performance.

    There are too many variables. Injuries, pitching, weather, ballparks, how the player is playing going into the post-season, etc to glean anything off what a player did last year.

    Post-season play is completely random.

    Even the guys who are considered “clutch” in the post-season have blemishes on their record.

    Predicting which players or teams will have post-season success each year is as random as flipping a coin.

  59. Yankee Trader September 23rd, 2010 at 10:38 am

    Fran-

    My condolences to you and your family on your loss.

    In regards to Teixeira, he’s batting[all yearlong] just less than .250 against righthanded pitchers. He often faces a shift now and is trying to lift everything, plus he has a bone bruise on his right hand. He’s a nonfactor against righties in the three hole and the Yankees might benefit by batting him lower in the order against righties, IMHO.

    Had the game not been rained out, it probably wouldn’t have made much difference. Davis was on, and we managed only 6 hits after he was out against 5 relievers.

    In all likelihood we’ll be facing Minnesota and another lefty in the bullpen will be helpful especially if Morneau is back.

  60. SJ44 September 23rd, 2010 at 10:42 am

    They are not moving Mark Teixeira down in the order for the post-season.

    A 0% chance it happens.

  61. sunny615 September 23rd, 2010 at 10:43 am

    This last game of the series may or may not be a “must-win” but I think it’s as close to it as you can get. I am hoping that having seen Price about a week ago will help the offense get on track and at the least work his pitch count up, get him out of the game early and attack the bullpen.

  62. Fran the original September 23rd, 2010 at 10:45 am

    Yankee Trader, thanks.

    I also agree with you that the Yanks should carry 2 LH relievers on the post season roster.

  63. JM September 23rd, 2010 at 10:45 am

    Tex’s injuries make me think it’s unlikely he’s suddenly going to get hot in the post-season.

    But when looking at post-season stats, it might be interesting to remember that before last year an awful lot of people were saying Arod was not “clutch,” could not handle the postseason pressure, etc.

  64. JM September 23rd, 2010 at 10:46 am

    Fran,

    So sorry for your loss. To live to 100, with all the changes she witnessed, is really amazing.

  65. West Coast Yankee Fan September 23rd, 2010 at 10:50 am

    SJ44 – I never said any of the things you alluded to. And just to clarify, that is just your opinion that “it’s using statistics incorrectly. Which 99% of baseball fans do when quoting them”.

    I happen to disagree with you and that’s my opinion. Let me guess, you are in the 1% of the all-knowing fan pool that gets it right.

  66. pat September 23rd, 2010 at 10:50 am

    The argument could be made that AJ is the pitching equivalent of Tex’s offense. No one is better when he is on, no one worse when he isn’t.

    It seems their tendencies are summarily dismissed as that is who they are but at the end of the day it puts more pressure on the other 23 guys on the roster.

  67. Yankee Trader September 23rd, 2010 at 10:55 am

    SJ-

    I agree that Tex won’t be moved down in the lineup. Bobby Cox will probably be in the HOF, but with all the NL pennants he won, he was only able to win one WS, on a 1-0 win over Cleveland by Tom Glavine. He was so loyal to his players that he refused to shuffle his lineup, and was outmanaged in the WS against the Blue Jays, Twins and Yankees.

  68. 108 stitches September 23rd, 2010 at 10:56 am

    My condolences for your loss, Fran.

  69. JS September 23rd, 2010 at 11:07 am

    SJ-

    Tremendous pitching matchup tonight. I’m actually going to the game.

    Price is a very interesting young guy. He certainly had his struggles last year (pretty much as a 2 pitch pitcher) starting in AAA, but has become a top pitcher in the AL.

    He clearly has refined his repertoire immensely. His fastball is absurdly effective. Do you think Hughes will be able to have the same level of success with his fastball command (improving even more next year)? I have no doubt that he is showing us that he is going to develop into a 4 pitch pitcher.

  70. clownthrowindown September 23rd, 2010 at 11:09 am

    Tex sucked at the beginning of last year, sucked in the playoffs, sucked at the beginning of this year and sucks now. So unless they start having the playoffs in July, Tex probably will suck in the playoffs.

  71. SJ44 September 23rd, 2010 at 11:11 am

    I think Hughes’ fastball command is his strength as a pitcher.

    He’s a bit tired as he’s hit his career high in innings and that’s affected his command a bit.

    However, there is no doubt fastball command will continue to be his strength.

    Price is special. He’s one of those rare guys that has the “it” quality as a ace-type starting pitcher. Especially impressive given he’s lefthanded.

    Its why CC is so special.

    You will get to see a fun game in person tonight.

  72. I Like Inge September 23rd, 2010 at 11:17 am

    clownthrowindown September 23rd, 2010 at 11:09 am
    Tex sucked at the beginning of last year, sucked in the playoffs, sucked at the beginning of this year and sucks now. So unless they start having the playoffs in July, Tex probably will suck in the playoffs.
    _________________________________________
    Yeah Tex sucked in Game 2 of the ALDS hitting the game winning home run in extra innings. He also sucked in Game 2 of the World Series hitting the game tying home run. Oh he also sucked in Game 5 of the ALCS when he cleared the bases off Darren Oliver to start the 6-run rally. Damn you know when he sucked too in Game 3 of the ALCS when he made great play after great play with bases loaded in the late innings when he helped Mo get out of bases loaded and nobody out.

    Yeah Tex is awful. Dude is playing with a broken toe and busted up thumb. You should be praising him for being tough and playing.

  73. JS September 23rd, 2010 at 11:17 am

    SJ-

    So I’m assuming his FB command is only going to get better. What intrigues me the most about Price is how fast his overall arsenal came together.

    Now I’m not expecting Hughes to necessarily be David Price next year, but do think he has top of the rotation potential. Is it normal to see David Price type leaps in young pitchers, or is the process a little more gradual (like a Zack Greinke)?

  74. Fran the original September 23rd, 2010 at 11:24 am

    JM and 108 stitches,Thanks

    Pat, agree about AJ. He is so frustrating. You never know which AJ will show up. He scares me as a Game 2 starter, but at least he’s sandwiched between CC and Andy..

  75. Mike_Boston September 23rd, 2010 at 11:28 am

    I’m assuming Hughes is game 2 or 3 starter, depending on HFA. AJ’s got to be the 4th, no?

  76. Wave Your Hat September 23rd, 2010 at 11:32 am

    My crystal ball says AJ has a 60% chance of starting game 3, a 30% chance of starting game 2 and a 10% chance of starting game 4.

  77. Squeakz September 23rd, 2010 at 11:33 am

    Is the beef between Michael Kay amd John Flaherty real or is it tv mud??? John f really seems to hate Kay

  78. CountryClub September 23rd, 2010 at 11:36 am

    I still dont believe that they’re using 4 pitchers in the 1st round.

  79. 108 stitches September 23rd, 2010 at 11:37 am

    10 games remain. After tonight, Toronto concerns me the most. They’ve been trouble since the schedule quirk of not playing them until August 2nd.
    Taking 2 of 3 games from the last 3 series should seal the deal.
    The Rays will find that Seattle, Baltimore, and K.C. are not about to be pushovers.

  80. West Coast Yankee Fan September 23rd, 2010 at 11:37 am

    I believe the Yankees rotation will line up this way:

    Sabathia
    Burnett
    Pettitte
    Hughes

  81. blake September 23rd, 2010 at 11:45 am

    I think the rotation in the first round will largely depend on how the first 3 games go…if the Yanks are down 2-1….I’m guessing we will see CC in game 4….

  82. CountryClub September 23rd, 2010 at 11:45 am

    I think it will go:

    CC
    Andy
    AJ
    CC on 3 days rest
    Andy on normal rest

    If the Yanks are up 2-1 they may hold back CC for game 5 and pitch Hughes in 4.

  83. blake September 23rd, 2010 at 11:48 am

    CC,
    I think that’s exactly what they will do…if they sweep or get swept then they will only need 3 starters….if down 2-1 then CC goes in Game 4 and Pettite in Game 5….if up 2-1 then they may go with someone else knowing that they would have CC on full rest for game 5…

  84. blake September 23rd, 2010 at 11:51 am

    Although I think Hughes starts game 3…not AJ.

  85. The Genius Maker September 23rd, 2010 at 2:25 pm

    SJ44 September 23rd, 2010 at 10:35 am
    61 AB’s is still a small sample size.

    It’s using statistics incorrectly. Which 99% of baseball fans do when quoting them.

    There is no “magic formula” or certainty when it comes to post-season performance.

    There are too many variables. Injuries, pitching, weather, ballparks, how the player is playing going into the post-season, etc to glean anything off what a player did last year.

    Post-season play is completely random.

    Even the guys who are considered “clutch” in the post-season have blemishes on their record.

    Predicting which players or teams will have post-season success each year is as random as flipping a coin.
    ***************

    Actually, the more postseason AB’s you get the closer you get to your normalized rate. While you could argue that the pitching is a little better and the hitting is a little bit better, guys like Pettitte and Jeter and even ARod have similar postseason numbers as regular season numbers because they have played a lot of games to make it more statistically valid.

    The real point is that all players go through good and bad stretches of 50 AB’s and they can come at any time and sometimes it happens during the postseason. As much as people make it out to be so much more, the postseason is not different than the regular season…all these guys have played under pressure and if there is a such thing as clutch ability, it is so insignificant as to not matter. and BTW, I argued on this same board and my blog about ARod being fine in clutch spots BEFORE last year…you can either believe the truth or the myth that most believe

  86. BIG AL September 23rd, 2010 at 2:27 pm

    Betsy -

    From Wikipedia ……………

    The best starter in the team’s rotation is called the ace. He is usually followed in the rotation by 3 or 4 other starters before he would be due to pitch again. Barring injury or exceptional circumstances, the ace is usually the pitcher that starts on Opening Day. Aces are also preferred to start crucial games late in the season and in the playoffs; sometimes they are asked to pitch on shorter rest if the team feels he would be more effective than the 4th or 5th starter. Typically the further down in the rotation a starting pitcher is, the weaker they are compared with the others on the staff.

  87. BIG AL September 23rd, 2010 at 2:30 pm

    Betsy -

    Again, from Wikipedia …..

    A flying ace or fighter ace is a military aviator credited with shooting down several enemy aircraft during aerial combat. The actual number of air victories required to officially qualify as an “ace” has varied, but is usually considered to be five or more.

    So per Wave, if a pitcher wins FIVE games, he’s an ace. lol

  88. BIG AL September 23rd, 2010 at 2:31 pm

    It’s been fun, got to go – Later.

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