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Lining up the starters into October

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Sep 25, 2010 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Joe Giradi said after last night’s game that he was not ready to announce the date of Andy Pettitte’s next start. He also would not confirm that CC Sabathia’s next start will be on Friday.

“Nothing is etched in stone,” he said. “We are through this weekend and we will continue to adjust as we feel necessary.”

Based on what we know, and what we think we know, here’s the rest of the Yankees regular season rotation. The names in bold have either been announced or basically announced. The names in italics are guesses.

Today – Ivan Nova
Sunday – Dustin Moseley
Monday – A.J. Burnett
Tuesday – Javier Vazquez/Chad Gaudin
Wednesday – Phil Hughes
Thursday – Off day
Friday – CC Sabathia
Saturday – Pettitte/Burnett
Sunday – Burnett/Pettitte

What comes next — and when Pettitte and Burnett take their final starts — depends entirely on how the Yankees want to lineup their postseason rotation. Do they want to split the lefties, leaving either Hughes or Burnett to start Game 2? Do they want to use a three-man rotation in the first round — meaning Sabathia would pitch Game 4 on short rest — knowing they’ll need a fourth starter in the ALCS?

Two ways it could play out (it doesn’t have to be either of these)…

Beginning on Monday, October 4
Monday – Off day
Tuesday – Off day
Wednesday – Sabathia
Thursday – Pettitte
Friday – Off day
Saturday – Hughes/Burnett
Sunday – Sabathia
Monday – Off day
Tuesday – Pettitte

Or…

Monday – Off day
Tuesday – Off day
Wednesday – Sabathia
Thursday – Hughes/Burnett
Friday – Off day
Saturday – Pettitte
Sunday – Burnett/Hughes
Monday – Off day
Tuesday – Sabathia

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80 Responses to “Lining up the starters into October”

  1. Rich in NJ September 25th, 2010 at 9:12 am

    When/why did Girardi lose his mancrush for Mitre? Gaudin/Moseley/Vazquez all stink worse at this point.

  2. Fran the original September 25th, 2010 at 9:15 am

    The 3 man rotation worked last year. I would like to see that again in the ALDS with Hughes pitching out of the bullpen. Then I would add Hughes as the 4th startes in the ALCS.

  3. JM September 25th, 2010 at 9:16 am

    It is strange about the Meat-Tray. To me he’s been more effective than Gaudin. Hard to know what Joe is thinking there, but that’s true about a lot of his decisions lately.

    The positives I take from last night’s game include:

    Could Tex at last be getting hot? If so, he could carry the team for awhile.

    Arod, amazingly, could still get 30 HRs

    Grandy still swinging a hot bat, if he stays that way, would be a huge plus for the postseason

    The team battled to the last out; too bad that John Alphabet gave up those runs or the Yanks could have walked off.

  4. sunny615 September 25th, 2010 at 9:18 am

    Who here honestly thinks they’re going to make the ALCS with the way they’ve been playing for the past month…??

  5. Rich in NJ September 25th, 2010 at 9:21 am

    I think they’ll win the WS.

  6. Betsy September 25th, 2010 at 9:23 am

    I really think the Yankees made a big mistake by skipping Phil now instead of earlier. Why on earth wouldn’t they want this kid on his routine going into the playoffs? Assuming he’s the #4, IF he pitches (and I actually don’t think it’s likeley), he’ll have 10 days rest ………….and he’s quite bad on long rest. He’s the #5 starter though, so he’s not going to get extra consideration. If he’s bad (not that he couldn’t be bad on closer to regular rest), then he’ll just be pulled. I would still take 2 long men as it’s very possible AJ gets torched early, like he did in 2 post-season games last year and like he’s been getting all year. I am no fan of Mitre, but it’s pretty ridiculous that he’d gone about 10 games without pitching. So did Javy and Albaladejo went 12 games. Mosely went 10 days without pitching. Gee Joe, I wonder why they were less than sharp? That is a big mark against Joe.

  7. sunny615 September 25th, 2010 at 9:24 am

    Every loss in the past month has been a mark against Joe. His moves have been nothing but puzzling…

  8. murphydog September 25th, 2010 at 9:24 am

    “Who here honestly thinks they’re going to make the ALCS with the way they’ve been playing for the past month…??”

    It’s not been encouraging play exactly. I think it’s also fair to point out, however, that Pettitte was hurt the last month as were various offensive stars and they skipped Hughes and AJ was lost.

    Pettitte is back (hopefully getting back to 100%), Jeter is less of an automatic out, AJ showed glimpses of not being a waste and CC had one of his best performances all season. They may not gel again in time, but I’m not betting against them and neither are the opposing managers.

  9. MTU September 25th, 2010 at 9:25 am

    Gonna miss most of today and tomorrow’s games.

    Off to do my “clinch” tribute, and #18 for YMH. :)

    And by the way Sunny. I do. On the backs of CC and AP.

  10. Betsy September 25th, 2010 at 9:25 am

    It’s way too premature for me to suggest Tex is getting hot…………..but even if he is, who knows if he’d take that into the post-season? I’m happier about Granderson continuing his fine play because I really think he could have a huge impact

  11. Fran the original September 25th, 2010 at 9:26 am

    Murphydog,

    Well stated.

  12. Bill D September 25th, 2010 at 9:26 am

    “The 3 man rotation worked last year”

    I did, but that’s because the scheduling was ridiculous. I don’t think anybody had to pitch on short rest last postseason. To use three this year, they will have to do so using at least one pitcher on short rest, and more likely two.

  13. Bill D September 25th, 2010 at 9:26 am

    *IT did.

  14. Rich in NJ September 25th, 2010 at 9:28 am

    I don’t think it’s fair to say that every loss is on Girardi, not even close, but he has managed like a deer caught in the headlights at times.

  15. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 25th, 2010 at 9:29 am

    You know, my style isn’t to get too high or too low about anything that happens in a game because it’s a long long season. And my style isn’t to get down on individual players or berate them because I know they aren’t trying to play poorly. And my style isn’t to get down on Girardi because I know that ultimately he knows how to manage and no matter how loudly anyone on lohud yammers otherwise, their knowledge of what should happen at any given time can fit into Girardi’s little finger. He may make mistakes but more often than not he is thinking far ahead of the fans – that’s what he’s paid to do.

    So all of that said, there is one thing that happened this season that stayed with me, and it is the least likely thing to complain about since it wasn’t even in a regular season game. But I still want to confess it. I haven’t forgiven Phil Hughes for screwing up home field advantage during the All Star Game. Or Girardi for putting him in there in the 7th in a tie game. DAMMIT! Yes it’s irrational to hold onto that, but I have. I want to wring both their necks. Because of any mistakes made this season, that may have turned out to be the most costly.

    Of course Phil Hughes coming up big in the postseason will help and the Yankees advancing to the world series and beating the Phils at home will help. But dammit, AL dominance since 19 freakin 96 and it had to be blown at the hands of Hughes and Girardi.

    Thanks for letting me get that off my chest. I feel a bit better now.

    :)

  16. Betsy September 25th, 2010 at 9:34 am

    I don’t have much confidence in the team, but I’m not predicting doom and gloom. I would be surprised if they won the WS because I’m not sure they are capable of getting on a hot streak. That 8 game streak was followed by horrid play…………and prior to that, they hadn’t gotten hot since early in the season.

  17. Shame Spencer September 25th, 2010 at 9:35 am

    “I haven’t forgiven Phil Hughes for screwing up home field advantage during the All Star Game.”

    Hahaha, Trisha, I HEAR you. But for me, I just prefer to rant and rave about the fact that our fearless leader decided that this game HAS to mean something in order to bring in ratings than place the blame on Phil or Joe.

  18. Doreen September 25th, 2010 at 9:38 am

    Not to mention, that ALDS versus Detroit, a few years ago – “Murderer’s Row and then Cano?” And nothing to show for it.

    “There’s no predicting baseball.”

    They’re just as likely to do well as to not do well. Every game is 50/50.

  19. Betsy September 25th, 2010 at 9:38 am

    How exactly did Phil screw up HFA? That’s really unfair. He gave up two not-so hard hit balls………and then Thornton came in and got torched. Yet Phil is the one who takes the blame from fans (not just Yankee fans) as if that’s fair. He was on the roster and he was pitching at home; I would have been angry had Joe not found a way to pitch him…………..and I don’t get why he shouldn’t have anyway.

  20. Betsy September 25th, 2010 at 9:40 am

    Plus, the AL didn’t hit that game. Seriously, if a team NEEDS HFA to win, then they aren’t that good in the first place. If you’re a good team, you’re a good team and you will win on the road.

  21. Bill D September 25th, 2010 at 9:40 am

    “How exactly did Phil screw up HFA?”

    My impression was that Trish was employing sarcasm in this particular case.

  22. Don Vito A. Bellamo September 25th, 2010 at 9:41 am

    The Yankees are 6-12 in their last 18 games and need to string together some wins ( I’ll take all 8 ) to get ready for the playoffs. I am baffled at the notion that ANY team, including the Yankees, can go 10-16 or worse for the last 26 games of the year and expect to have ANY success in the playoffs, no matter how RESTED or SET UP your rotation is. If the Yankees treat these last 8 games as basically “meaningless”, I wouldn’t be surprised if they finishes 96-66, and that is after being 86-50 back on September 4th ! There is NO momentum in that, and it will put questions in many a person’s mind if they can do anything but get THUMPED in round one. ( players included ! ) It starts tonight, Nova can pitch well, we have seen it….and beating up on a GOOD ( and NO, Beckett is NOT good, the slug ) 18 win pitcher in Lester will be a good 1st step to building the confidence this team NEEDS heading into round one of the playoffs !

  23. Rich in NJ September 25th, 2010 at 9:41 am

    I don’t think it’s 50/50. Talent should out, and the Yankees have more talent if everyone plays up to their ability.

  24. Betsy September 25th, 2010 at 9:42 am

    I would have preferred the Yankees, IF they were going to skip Phil, to do so in Toronto and let him pitch here. OR, he should have been skipped against Tampa. This will be the 5th or 6th time he’s pitching against them and he’s got awful #s…………..I don’t get it.

  25. tyanksfan36 September 25th, 2010 at 9:43 am

    Trisha

    I’m with you on the whole Yankees ruined the all star game. I don’t get so much on Phil because he was pulled before any of them scored. What didn’t make sense is who Girardi brought in to relieve him. When you have Valverde and Soriano and I think Neftali Feliz was there and some other good closers, he should have put one of them in that spot and not a set up man like he did(or I think he did, it was a while ago). I also think Price, Lee and Pettitte should have pitched more than one inning. the only good thing that a Yankee did in that game was Cano’s sac fly that scored Longoria.

  26. Betsy September 25th, 2010 at 9:44 am

    Bill, I don’t think so………….

    It’s been close to 162 and the Yankees haven’t played close to their full ability. Expecting them to just turn it on is wishful thinking.

  27. BIG AL September 25th, 2010 at 9:44 am

    trisha – true pinstriped blue -

    When you begin to realize it’s a team sport, not an individual sport, perhaps you’ll have a better understanding that no one person is responsible for a win, or a loss.

    If Phil Hughes is to blame, as you put it, perhaps we should also dismiss his 17 wins.

    The only thing you contribute to this blog are long dissertatations that say nothing.

  28. Doreen September 25th, 2010 at 9:46 am

    trisha -

    That’s so funny coming from you. Of all things! :lol:

  29. Doreen September 25th, 2010 at 9:47 am

    As far as I’m concerned, the NL was due to win an All-Star game and they had the ptiching this year to get it done.

  30. tyanksfan36 September 25th, 2010 at 9:47 am

    I did have the all star game discussion the next day though it was with a Rays fan so she might have brainwashed me in to thinking it was all my teams fault. Phil deserved to be there but I also think its unfair to blame the loss of the game on him because his relief allowed his runs to score. That’s not his fault. The NL allowed baserunners but the people who came out in relief didn’t let them score.

  31. BIG AL September 25th, 2010 at 9:52 am

    Later folks.

  32. 108 stitches September 25th, 2010 at 9:56 am

    The good “Yankee swagger” has not been seen in a few weeks. They need to find it quickly going into the ALDS and maintain it.

  33. Bill D September 25th, 2010 at 10:01 am

    Don Vito:

    There’s a lot of history to suggest momentum isn’t necessarily a big deal heading into the playoffs. Certainly the 2000 Yankees are an example of a team who not only lost a lot down the stretch, but got killed on a routine basis (lost by 8 runs or more EIGHT times in their last 16 games), only to show up in the playoffs and get the job done. Conversely, the 2006 Yankees looked to be an absolute juggernaut, heading into August tied for 1st, then running away and hiding from everyone enroute to winning the division by 10 games, only to put forth a truly uninspired effort in the playoffs.

  34. SJ44 September 25th, 2010 at 10:05 am

    This reminds me of the 2000 season.

    That team lost 15 out of 18 in September, looked old and terrible down the stretch, and looked to have no chance in the post-season.

    They came alive at the right time.

    There is no “great” team in the AL. Every team has flaws this year.

    What happens in the regular season, especially September, has no carryover effect in baseball.

    Get in, line up your pitching, get some of the injured some rest, and go from there.

    The rest of the stuff is just noise.

  35. Betsy September 25th, 2010 at 10:12 am

    That’s fine, but of course what happened in 2000 isn’t necessarily going to repeat itself. I’m not a fan of how the Yankees are lining up their pitching either.

  36. Yankee Trader September 25th, 2010 at 10:13 am

    Pitching will determine how far the Yankees will advance, and save for Kerry Wood, none of the staff has pitched well with any consistency.

  37. Yankee Trader September 25th, 2010 at 10:15 am

    None of the staff has pitched well “lately.”

  38. Bill D September 25th, 2010 at 10:16 am

    ‘That’s fine, but of course what happened in 2000 isn’t necessarily going to repeat itself. I’m not a fan of how the Yankees are lining up their pitching either”

    Nope, no guarantees. Point is really to illustrate that there isn’t much of a correlation between what happens in September and what happens in October.

    What’s the problem with the pitching?

  39. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 25th, 2010 at 10:21 am

    “trisha -

    That’s so funny coming from you. Of all things! :lol:

    :D

    That’s why I allowed myself that indulgence! I figure that I haven’t done a ton of deficit spending here by whining my way through each and every game of the season like some people here. So I decided to put it out there. It made me ballastic at the time, and when I think about it I still want to vomit. Why couldn’t it have been at the hands of Terry Francona and for example Papelbon? Ugh. And yes, he was sitting with top-notch pitchers. In a 1-1 tie in the 7th you go with your Felizes and Sorianos and you get to your Rivera. Or as someone else mentioned, you use your great guys for more than one inning. You don’t feel the need to showcase every player or someone just because he’s yours!

    That game for me will unfortunately be like the line from the movie Niagra Falls! Slowly I turned…

    :)

  40. SAS September 25th, 2010 at 10:23 am

    Good morning from AZ.

    As I said last night, the Yankees need to win these 2 games over the weekend. They will then be able to do what they want with the lineup…rest people etc.

    The teams on the schedule are not easy, especially the way the Yankees are playing, and if the Sox have any idea they can win this, they will go all out. Therefore, to put us/them out of their misery. winning today and tomorrow is more important.

    It is never a given that something can be won. SJ44 reminded us of 2000, and the way the Yanks are losing, it is not far fetched.

    Do to the time change 3 hrs. now, I well may be out during the game which is tough to take. Please help the Yankees win this game with or without me

  41. Laura - I Bleed Blue September 25th, 2010 at 10:23 am

    The playoffs will be decided by pitching and right now, I don’t have any confidence in ours.

  42. MiketheGardnerfan September 25th, 2010 at 10:28 am

    As long as the Yankees win tonight and tomorrow, they are in a good place. If/when Nova gives up 5 runs in the 6th inning tonight, i’ll take this back.

  43. Tar September 25th, 2010 at 10:30 am

    I feel Joe has stumbled at times over the past couple of weeks. However I do realize that trying to balance resting players, auditioning for post season spots and winning HFA is not an easy thing to accomplish. I am hoping he “erred” on the side of rest . The good thing is during the post-season he wont have to worry about any of that.

    Believe it or not I am more concerned about the pitching than the offense. IMO, The staff seems tired.

    The offense this past week is really starting to come together. 29 runs over the last 5 games (they lost 3) vs the Rays and the Sox. Granderson, Jeter, Alex, Berkman, Po, and Swish are all seeing the ball real well.

    Joe has a lot of juggling to do.

    The pitching staff is in a slump. Do they need to work through it or just get some rest?

    The offense is on a roll. Do they need to rest to stay fresh, or keep playing to stay hot?

    Is Joe all in on HFA or getting ready for post season?

    The next week is going to be real interesting.

    But whatever happens when the playoffs start, my money is on the Yankees.

  44. SJ44 September 25th, 2010 at 10:30 am

    Betsy,

    You are never confident with any aspect of this team at any time so, that’s not exactly breaking news.

    The point some of us are trying to make is, there are no correlations to be drawn between what’s happening now and the post-season.

    Get in and get hot for three weeks. The team that does that wins, regardless of what happened over the course of the regular season.

  45. Betsy September 25th, 2010 at 10:33 am

    SJ, yes, I understand that…………..and that’s what the Yankees and their fans will bank on. I agree that there are no great teams in baseball, period………………..

  46. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 25th, 2010 at 10:34 am

    “The playoffs will be decided by pitching and right now, I don’t have any confidence in ours.”

    Interesting thing that. While it is an axiom that more often than not likely proves to be true, I have also seen high-scoring series. I seem to remember a game between Cleveland and the Suxers, I think when Pedro was still around, that was just about a football score!

    However, going with that axiom, I on the other hand do have confidence in our pitching. I look at the entire body of work this season and have total faith in CC and Andy especially. (I understand anyone looking at Andy as an X factor because of his injury and late return, but I think he will have it together.) Watching the improvements made by AJ over his last 4 games, I also think he will be able to help us out. In the wings we have Phil, and Nova and Moseley and Mitre and we have Robertson and Wood and Joba and Mariano. And Boone Logan.

    Don’t forget, every team has to hope that their pieces fall into place they way they need them to. Not every team has the offense the Yankees have to back up their pitching.

    That’s the way I’m seeing it right now.

  47. Bronx Jeers September 25th, 2010 at 10:34 am

    Looking at the schedule from 2000….

    They played 61 games in 62 days in Aug/Sept. ouch.

  48. Bo knows September 25th, 2010 at 10:35 am

    The Yankees are big into paper power. They look good on paper. Hey, six HRs. The term, meaningless HRs was invented for games like the one last night. Last night’s ninth summed it up. They are three runs down. So they need four to win. You need men on base. So Jeter strikes out on one at the shoulders. Swish tries for the Grand Slam, Teix is successful but it only counts for one. Alex actually does the right thing in getting on base. Then we have the Cano adventure. Trying to do too much. The poor guy has been carrying this team all year. You can tell he’s exhausted. The rest of the team has been on or off all year. He’s the only one that’s maintained a level of excellence. Someone has to show up while Teix is on his months plus hiatus, others are injured or slumping. For the eleventeenth time the team didn’t show up till the sixth inning. Hey, the offense was on fire, six HRs. Paper Power.

  49. Betsy September 25th, 2010 at 10:36 am

    Bill, for one – I’m glad CC is going to get the extra rest. Andy? Nothing we can do about the fact that he’s got 1 more start to get it righted. I think the Yankees took this innings limit with Phil right down to the wire, which is a mistake. First, they should have skipped hm earlier in the season instead of waiting until now. So now he’s off his routine. Second, I don’t think he needed to be skipped anyway. Let him go against the Sox and only pitch a few innings against the Jays (who he can’t handle anyway – this will be the 5th or 6th time they’ve seen him). I think he probably should be pitching ahead of AJ, but I’m fine if he doesn’t. If he does end up pitching game 4 (the only way I see it is if the Yankees are up 2-1 and even then I think they’d go to CC to avoid using him in game 5), it will be on long rest. They aren’t even thinking of using him in the pen, which is a mistake. I really don’t love what Eiland has been saying.

  50. Betsy September 25th, 2010 at 10:38 am

    If Joe is going to be here long-term (hope he’s not), then I wonder what’s going to happen next time there’s a pennant race because most times, teams do not run away with the division. Is he always going to go for the WC? With Cashman’s backing? I can’t blame fans if they start wondering why they should care if the Yankees don’t?

  51. Betsy September 25th, 2010 at 10:39 am

    And now – I’m not spending any time worrying about Phil; I have more important things to worry about. If this were Joba or another pitcher, I would say exactly the same things

  52. Ace September 25th, 2010 at 10:39 am

    I’d like to get in before we start lining up pitching. Because nova vs Lester n Moseley tom don’t exactly inspire confidence

  53. have a cigar September 25th, 2010 at 10:40 am

    The Yanks should actually clinch a playoff spot before they start planning for October. Hubris has a way of coming back to bite you in the ass.

    The way they’ve been playing (and the way Girardi has been pissing away games) has shades of the 2004 meltdown.

  54. ericns1 September 25th, 2010 at 10:42 am

    Rotation doesn’t really matter – if they get in and will be lucky to do so will get swept in 3 the way they are playing

  55. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 25th, 2010 at 10:43 am

    “I can’t blame fans if they start wondering why they should care if the Yankees don’t?”

    To decide the Yankees don’t care because they don’t do things according to your layout or expectations is really taking things far afield.

    You need to be able to get beyond your own desires and realize that the Yankees care more than anybody else. They are not in the business of losing. They don’t have the luxury to sit behind a keyboard and think about what would be nice in the here and now. They have a lot more balls to juggle than what player the fans would like to see come in during X inning.

    I don’t care how many mistakes you personally think that the Yankees and Girardi make in the course of each and every game. Not caring about winning is not one of them.

  56. Yankee Trader September 25th, 2010 at 10:43 am

    Unless Boston wins the rest of their games, the Yankees are going to the postseason, to most likely face Minnesota. I like our chances in the 1st round. No Morneau, two good lefties to help neutralize Mauer, Thome and Kubel.

  57. blake September 25th, 2010 at 10:45 am

    People seem to forget that the rotation was CC and questions heading into the postseason last year as well. AJ was the #2 and there was no #4….but despite that they pitched well, got big hits and some fortunate breaks. That’s what has to happen for them to win…and it could happen again just as easily as it did last year.

    I am encouraged by how some guys are swinging he bat and hopefully Tex is about to turn things around.

    As others have said.. The playoffs is a new season and its all about who plays the best for those 3-4 weeks.

  58. pat September 25th, 2010 at 10:46 am

    I want the Yankees to go far into the postseason because I enjoy watching them play and they are now approaching the lose and go home part of the season. Rings are icing on the cake to me.

    Everyone seems very focused on the angst but we’ve seen good things happen this year too. “Kids” got firsts, guys took steps forward and milestones have been achieved.

    No doubt it’s had a rollercoaster feel at times but it’s all part of the ride.

  59. Don Vito A. Bellamo September 25th, 2010 at 10:47 am

    “What happens in the regular season, especially September, has no carryover effect in baseball. ” – - – Not only do I imagine that this can NOT be anywhere near a “fact”, I am truly surprised that this type of “blanket” statement would come from someone that 99% of the time is “spot on”. :-(

  60. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 25th, 2010 at 10:47 am

    I see that we have some puffed-up Sux trolls aboard. Welcome!

    :)

    Good idea. Nobody will start talking about the postseason until the Yankees actually clinch! Because it’s not like they’re actually going to the postseason or anything.

    :roll:

    See ya now.

  61. pat September 25th, 2010 at 10:49 am

    “If Joe is going to be here long-term (hope he?s not)”

    Be careful what you wish for. The devil you don’t know could be worse than the one you do.

  62. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 25th, 2010 at 10:52 am

    By the way, both Nova and Moseley helped us to win games. You aren’t looking at them as your front-line starters but hopefully both can keep us in the games in the next two days enough for the wins. That’s what you hope for.

  63. murphydog September 25th, 2010 at 10:55 am

    SJ at 10:05. IMO, that’s 100% correct.

    The Rays and Yankees are like Boston and the Yanks were a few years back, very well matched. The regular season numbers are close in almost every category except that the Rays won the season series. There is no dominant team, but the Rays and Yankees are extremely strong clubs. The ALCS might be far better than the WS if it’s Rays and Yankees in the ALCS.

  64. Bo knows September 25th, 2010 at 10:56 am

    Well, the term, “the Yankees are in first place” no longer applies so the regular season now has no bearing. I think everyone is worried about this team.

    Poor Girardi has aged ten years. He’s tried numbers, he’s tried logic, played intuition. Worked tactics, subscribed to strategy. The team keeps bumbling along, oops. And the poor guy can’t lose his temper and rip someone a new aperture. All stars you know. Team dynamics. And to all those that are sending Joe to Chicago – careful of what you wish for.

  65. murphydog September 25th, 2010 at 10:57 am

    How the heck did this turn into “Joe Girardi must go” or “Girardi hurt the team with his decision making”? They’ve had the best or next best record for a long time now.

    Like the man said: You are entitled to your own opinion but you are not entitled to your own facts.

  66. JM September 25th, 2010 at 10:58 am

    Joe G is still a very inexperienced manager and yes, I think he’s made some boneheaded moves the past three weeks or so. Still, I don’t want to him to leave. I still believe he’s a good manager for this team.

  67. 86w183 September 25th, 2010 at 10:59 am

    Don Vito —- Can’t support you on this one. The 2000 team is but one example. The 116 win Seattle Mariners are another. some sports are sports of momentum, but baseball is a game in which momentum is tomorrow’s starting pitcher.

    You can lose 10 in a row, but if your pitcher throws a gem you are likely to lose. You can win 10 straight only to have someone else’s pitcher shut you down.

    I care nothing about momentum, and everything about getting into the field of eight teams in the post-season. At that point everyone has the same record and the same magic number.

  68. RSM September 25th, 2010 at 11:01 am

    Bottom line, except for one 8 game stretch the Yankees have not played consistently good baseball in two months.
    The Phillies look like an unstoppable force right now.
    However, none of that matters once the playoffs start.
    1996 taught me to never give up hope until the last out of an elimination game.

  69. JM September 25th, 2010 at 11:03 am

    The Phillies do look great but they have also been facing really bad pitching for the last couple of weeks. I believe I saw on si.com that the pitchers they faced in the last five or six games had only won 9 games all year….Granted, they are winning when they have to but I’m not ready to anoint them as WS champs just yet. Will dig up the si.com article…

  70. JM September 25th, 2010 at 11:05 am

    Re: Phillies….

    Phillies aided by schedule
    Yes, folks, the Phillies are red hot, but let’s be honest here: they have capitalized on one of the most fortuitous scheduling runs possible in September. The Phillies beat Jonathan Niese of the Mets and Tommy Hanson of the Braves for the first and latest wins in a 10-game winning streak. In between, they faced eight starting pitchers with nine combined wins the entire season: Andrew Miller, Adalberto Mendez, Jorge Sosa, Jason Marquis, Jordan Zimmermann, Yunesky Maya, Brandon Beachy and Mike Minor. Not exactly the 1970 Orioles.

    They played the Marlins without Josh Johnson (hurt), the Nationals without Stephen Strasburg (hurt) and the Braves without Jair Jurrjens (hurt). Give Philadelphia credit for taking advantage of the opening.

    And now there is more good news for the Phillies. The entire postseason is set up in their favor exactly as it favored the Yankees last year: the Division Series with the extra off day, home-field advantage in all three rounds and virtually no need for a fourth starter. It’s all about the H2O: Halladay, Hamels, Oswalt.

    Like the 2009 Yankees, too, the Phillies might not have to push their pitchers hard in the final week. Roy Halladay, for instance, is phenomenal, but manager Charlie Manuel would do well to ease off Halladay a bit in his final two starts. Halladay, 33, is on pace to throw more pitches this year than ever in his career, and pitching in the first pennant race of his life is a new kind of strain for him. In his past six starts, Halladay has a 4.32 ERA and been tagged for a .294 batting average against.

    Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....z10YPO1QWM

  71. Yankee Trader September 25th, 2010 at 11:05 am

    Eh, I don’t believe in momentum. It all has to do with fate. Look at the 1996 Yankees! :)

  72. Shame Spencer September 25th, 2010 at 11:06 am

    “The devil you don’t know could be worse than the one you do.”

    Seriously.

  73. Shame Spencer September 25th, 2010 at 11:08 am

    IMO, momentum matters in sports where team chemistry is far more important.. baseball isn’t one of them.

  74. have a cigar September 25th, 2010 at 11:10 am

    Just because someone posts an idea that runs counter to yours doesn’t make them a red sox troll.

    Not everyone’s a myopic know-it-all.

  75. Doreen September 25th, 2010 at 11:11 am

    I think the way Joe went about the last several weeks was injury driven. If the team is healthy, I doubt he “goes for” the wild card.

    Losing Nick Johnson really hurt the team a lot. It compromised Girardi’s plan that worked so well last year of rotating rest around his older, or achier, players. Being able to give Damon and Matsui planned rests definitely added to their ability to “be there” during the playoffs last season.

    What we have to hope is that all this late season rest for guys works out. But it’s different getting rest just for the sake of rest, and rest to give injuries a chance to subside a little. I think putting ARod on the DL with his calf worked out well for them.

  76. have a cigar September 25th, 2010 at 11:13 am

    For the record, I hate the Red Sox more than the Nazis and Al-Qaeda combined.

  77. Doreen September 25th, 2010 at 11:16 am

    pat -

    Agree 100% with your 10:46 post.

    :)

  78. Tar September 25th, 2010 at 11:22 am

    I think it comes down to who do the Yankees feel they match up better against.

    If it’s the Rangers, I think they will go all out for the division.

    If it’s the Twinkies, full on rest and prep mode.

    The line-up over the next couple of days will tell you.

  79. Bo knows September 25th, 2010 at 11:25 am

    Joe G is still a very inexperienced manager and yes, I think he’s made some boneheaded moves the past three weeks or so.
    ————————————————————-

    Joe G stands right next to Pena. Two managers of the year. Two long time catchers known for their skills at calling games and game strategy. And the two of them are bone headed in their decisions.

    The offensive team that they signed on for, consists of one player. Three of their top guns are in varying degrees of ineffective. Their starters have a lot of innings on their arms from last year. They traded for an innings eater who crashed and burned. Tried their damndest to trade for Lee. All of the patches Cash applied in the off season workend dit. The BP was in shambles until Cash winkled out Wood.

    Pardon me if I don’t sign on for the “boneheaded decisions.

  80. SAS September 25th, 2010 at 11:33 am

    :arrow: Yankees honoring Eunice Kennedy Shriver

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