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Yankees scheduled to stay on rotation

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Sep 26, 2010 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Here’s the short version of what Joe Girardi just said.

The decision to start Phil Hughes was made last night, but the Yankees already had Hughes doing his normal between-starts routine just in case something like this popped up.

Beyond this weekend, Girardi said the Yankees will stay on rotation. That means A.J. Burnett, CC Sabathia and Andy Pettitte in Toronto. Girardi said plans could change if the Yankees clinch — obviously — but for now everything is on schedule. Girardi said he never told Sabathia that he would be pitching on Friday, despite that fact Sabathia specifically said he was going on Friday.

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68 Responses to “Yankees scheduled to stay on rotation”

  1. West Coast Yankee Fan September 26th, 2010 at 5:18 pm

    Cain throwing a no-no in the 8th.

  2. Ruby Tuesday September 26th, 2010 at 5:18 pm

    My advice:

    Brace yourselves for the post game hysteria following tonight’s loss to the R*d S*x

  3. LGY September 26th, 2010 at 5:20 pm

    “The decision to start Phil Hughes was made last night, but the Yankees already had Hughes doing his normal between-starts routine just in case something like this popped up.”

    ————————————

    So what you mean Chad is that the Yankees put a plan in place in order to adjust to changing circumstances???

    Shocking.

  4. Ruby Tuesday September 26th, 2010 at 5:20 pm

    Would that be the forty-seventh no-hitter of the 2010 MLB season ?

  5. CR9 September 26th, 2010 at 5:21 pm

    “So what you mean Chad is that the Yankees put a plan in place in order to adjust to changing circumstances???

    Shocking.”

    +1

    My goodness! Never would have guessed that the world’s greatest sports organization had a secondary plan in place :lol:

  6. Yogi Mantle September 26th, 2010 at 5:23 pm

    Hmph. Rockies struggling to get hits right after a ton of attention was brought up about their humidor balls. Nah, couldn’t mean a thing.

  7. JD September 26th, 2010 at 5:26 pm

    Tampa Bay lost so Yanks should be a half game out by the end of the night.

  8. blake September 26th, 2010 at 5:27 pm

    Good to hear…clinch and take care of business and then you have options at Fenway. You don’t want those to be must win….you want to have to choice of resting people in that series in particular.

  9. Cashmoney September 26th, 2010 at 5:27 pm

    You mean Joe Girardi may have actually spoke to Cashman and formulate a plan in accordance with this specific situation in mind?

    I am simply amazed ! I think the entire organization might crumble from this panicky move.

  10. blake September 26th, 2010 at 5:32 pm

    Panic move or finally showing a little urgency….they haven’t in weeks. The Yankees are making the post season but they do need to get some positive vibes going before that IMO… I don’t think you want to eek in after having such a big cushion.

  11. Rich in NJ September 26th, 2010 at 5:33 pm

    I think Hughes should have been the scheduled starter until/unless they clinched a playoff spot. Better late that never.

  12. CR9 September 26th, 2010 at 5:34 pm

    Is it hard for any of you to think about what-ifs and that we got cheated out of Cliff Lee? :using a this year philosophy only:

  13. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 26th, 2010 at 5:35 pm

    “The decision to start Phil Hughes was made last night, but the Yankees already had Hughes doing his normal between-starts routine just in case something like this popped up.”

    :)

    Sounds exactly like what I said in the previous thread. Losing games 1 and 2 (certainly not an expected outcome with the pitchers we started) could signal a change in direction. Not panic. Intelligent strategy and decision making. And something you certainly don’t tell to the press or the other team ahead of time!

    Panic, schmanick.

  14. CR9 September 26th, 2010 at 5:35 pm

    *hard for any of you to stop thinking about what-ifs………………..

  15. Rich in NJ September 26th, 2010 at 5:36 pm

    They didn’t get cheated out of Cliff Lee, they got their butts saved for the next 15 years.

  16. Cashmoney September 26th, 2010 at 5:36 pm

    CR, I am trying to think of nefarious connection between Z and Boston, I can’t think of any sabotage on that level. Except Z and Tito can both qualified as a Bond Villain , well Youkiliss definite does.

  17. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 26th, 2010 at 5:36 pm

    “So what you mean Chad is that the Yankees put a plan in place in order to adjust to changing circumstances???

    Shocking.”

    :D

  18. Cashmoney September 26th, 2010 at 5:37 pm

    Me like Montero , Rich.

  19. Carl September 26th, 2010 at 5:37 pm

    What if the Blue Jays took Montero for Halladay. In that lineup. Maaan.

  20. West Coast Yankee Fan September 26th, 2010 at 5:38 pm

    Sabathia decided he was going to pitch. That’s called, balls, if the post-season is still on the line he’s taking the mound. Tell him he’s not Joe.

  21. Betsy September 26th, 2010 at 5:39 pm

    Then we wouldn’t have had the pitching problems that we had this year, but I would not have offered Montero for Halladay, so I’m glad the Jays said now. Even if it costs us in the playoffs, I’m now glad that we didn’t give up Montero for Lee………or, rather, that Seattle did us a favor.

  22. CR9 September 26th, 2010 at 5:41 pm

    Rich – Im not disputing the current year versus the next 15, but you honestly think that Montero will have a 15+ year career?

    Cashmoney – There may be no obvious connection between Z and Boston, but there’s always a connection. You just have to look hard enough. And the fact that he used us solely so he could get that loser career minor leaguer Smoak – a loser that he himself knew for a long time – kills me!

    Z is a terrible GM. Terrible.

  23. Betsy September 26th, 2010 at 5:41 pm

    I’m not assuming a win tonight by any means. Forget the pitching – the offense is still stuck in 5th gear. I’m not assuming a loss, either – just wait and see type of thing.

  24. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 26th, 2010 at 5:42 pm

    Betsy, it is actually looking like some pretty cool back-room strategy on the part of the Yankees. And now you know that Phil has had the side-sessions he needs.

    And any earlier Hughes announcement probably would have signalled Bucholz in return!

    I’m loving it!!!

    :) :) :)

  25. JD September 26th, 2010 at 5:42 pm

    You give up three Monteros for a Halladay. Plain and simple.

  26. Rich in NJ September 26th, 2010 at 5:43 pm

    Yes, CR9, he hasn’t even turned 21 yet, and he’s their best hitting prospect since Jeter, with tons more power.

  27. JD September 26th, 2010 at 5:43 pm

    Maybe he could have even got AJ back on track as he helped him a lot in the past.

  28. Rich in NJ September 26th, 2010 at 5:43 pm

    “You give up three Monteros for a Halladay. Plain and simple.”

    That’s your opinion.

  29. Cashmoney September 26th, 2010 at 5:44 pm

    CR, the verdict is still out on Z, I will not say he is terrible yet. He certainly has not done anything detrimental on the level of Bavasi.

  30. CR9 September 26th, 2010 at 5:45 pm

    Rich – But according to all the loser “experts” across the baseball world, Montero has no position. CINO

    Our DH will be taken for the next several years.

  31. JD September 26th, 2010 at 5:45 pm

    “That’s your opinion”- obviously but I would love to see Doc in pinstripes. More than Lee. Ask the Phillies who they would rather have. Oh wait you don’t have to.

  32. LGY September 26th, 2010 at 5:46 pm

    “Forget the pitching – the offense is still stuck in 5th gear.”

    ————————————-

    The Yankees have scored more runs than anyone else in baseball the second half of the season.

  33. Betsy September 26th, 2010 at 5:46 pm

    Trisha, we won’t know that until after the game, lol. I really don’t think they held off on this announcement just so they wouldn’t face Buchholz.

    Not plain and simple; I wouldn’t have done it.

  34. CR9 September 26th, 2010 at 5:47 pm

    Cashmoney – He may not have done anything detrimental, but he got a steal in Lee in the 3 way deal. And then what does he do with Lee, he gets rid of Lee for NOTHING, when as Rich in NJ has said, Montero will be a stud for the next 15+ years.

  35. Betsy September 26th, 2010 at 5:48 pm

    Well it’s a good thing the Jays didn’t do that deal because with Romine disappointing in the 2nd half and Jorge nearing the end, we need Montero.

  36. Rich in NJ September 26th, 2010 at 5:48 pm

    Doc in pinstripes would have been nice, but if Montero becomes a .900+ OPS guy for even 10 years, as seems quite possible, it wouldn’t have been nice to have to face him 18 games a season.

    The Yankees have a lot of aging position players. I really didn’t want to see their best hitting prospect traded away.

  37. Tar September 26th, 2010 at 5:48 pm

    “the offense is still stuck in 5th gear”

    I disagree. They have scored 32 runs in the last 6 games, and lost 4 of them. Not on the offense.

  38. Ruby Tuesday September 26th, 2010 at 5:49 pm

    I get the feeling that

    D**su*k* M*ts*z*k*

    will pitch extremely well tonight.

  39. Cashmoney September 26th, 2010 at 5:49 pm

    Betsy, regardless of the result . Hughes is a the right move over Moseley, do you simply not see that.

  40. Betsy September 26th, 2010 at 5:49 pm

    LGY, no matter what the numbers say, this team is maddeningly inconsistent offensively. They can go from being red hot to ice cold in a matter of innings.

  41. Betsy September 26th, 2010 at 5:50 pm

    Cash, I already said that I never thought Phil should have been skipped in the first place.

  42. LGY September 26th, 2010 at 5:52 pm

    “Cash, I already said that I never thought Phil should have been skipped in the first place.”

    ——————-

    And now he is not being skipped.

    So what is the problemo here?

  43. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 26th, 2010 at 5:53 pm

    “Trisha, we won’t know that until after the game, lol. I really don’t think they held off on this announcement just so they wouldn’t face Buchholz.”

    Betsy regardless of the outcome it was excellent strategy. To me this is the Yankee organization at its best. I’ve always been happy to let them have their privacy and announce when they choose to announce. I don’t feel I need to be in on their team meetings!

    To me it’s the same as Girardi not letting the press know that a certain reliever might not be available. It’s strategy. The press knows, the other team knows. Strategy is definitely part of what teams do, on and off the field.

    I’m so down with this it isn’t funny. Again, Yankees at their best. Preparing for the eventuality.

    Come on, you’ve seen the Sux change their rotation so that we get certain pitchers. You don’t think they would have preferred to pitch Bucholz in this situation? Hell they were going to do it on short rest several weeks ago!

  44. Cashmoney September 26th, 2010 at 5:53 pm

    we won’t know that until after the game
    —————————–
    Say Hughes lost tonight , then does a bad decision maketh?

  45. Bill D September 26th, 2010 at 5:53 pm

    “Panic move or finally showing a little urgency”

    Little of both, more of the latter. There’s no question that this was not there plan. However, the team’s recent play/results have compelled them (at least in their minds) to change the plan. Even if they lost tonight, I wouldn’t be sweating this, but the organization apparently is and they’ve reacted accordingly.

  46. JD September 26th, 2010 at 5:54 pm

    Well I just hope Montero can indeed be the catcher then because A-Rod will be taking over that DH spot at some point soon I would think.

  47. Betsy September 26th, 2010 at 5:54 pm

    LGY, we already went through that. Ok, he’s pitching tonight; I hope he does well and the Yankees win.

  48. Rich in NJ September 26th, 2010 at 5:54 pm

    “Little of both, more of the latter. There’s no question that this was not there plan. ”

    Well put.

  49. Betsy September 26th, 2010 at 5:55 pm

    Cash, I was responding to Trisha’s post about this being some “cool back-room strategy”. If it doesn’t work, it doesn’t mean it was a “bad” decision even though I wouldn’t have done it; I was just saying that it will only look really good if we win.

  50. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 26th, 2010 at 5:56 pm

    Of course they held off on the announcement for strategic purposes! Otherwise they would have put out a press release that said: We intend to pitch Phil Hughes on Sunday if the Yankees lose both of their games. Please pass this on to the fenway team so they can line up their rotation accordingly!

    :)

    Heck I am good to go no matter what the flip happens. How much better am I to go now that this has happened? My love affair with the Yankees and with life has just intensified – if that were even possible.

    Nothing left to say but, see ya later. I think I’ll watch a little football!!!

    ;)

  51. Betsy September 26th, 2010 at 5:57 pm

    Trish, then why isn’t Buchholz pitching tonight? The answer probably lies in the fact that they have to win almost every game, not just tonight, and Dice-K has to pitch anyway………. Anyhow, I never presume anything with regards to a game, so again this is just wait and see – as it is for every game.

  52. Bill D September 26th, 2010 at 5:57 pm

    “You don’t think they would have preferred to pitch Bucholz in this situation?”

    If they did, they would have. I think the Red Sox have a pretty good appreciation for the position they’re in and how little the last two days have changed it. If the lead were 2.5 games instead of 5.5, Buchholtz is probably on the mound this evening. As it’s 5.5, there is little need to push him and risk injury for a 0.8% chance of making the playoffs.

  53. 108 stitches September 26th, 2010 at 5:58 pm

    With the so called innings limits for Hughes, he won’t likely pitch more than enough innings to qualify him for a win if the Yankees are holding a double digit lead or near it. The “elite” relievers will get some work in.
    No need to even consider the likes of Vazquez or Gaudin to open the floodgates.

  54. Cashmoney September 26th, 2010 at 5:58 pm

    I was just saying that it will only look really good if we win.
    ——————————————-
    Don’t you see that as an irrelevant point ? The decision is sound given all the informations, regardless of win/lost .

  55. JD September 26th, 2010 at 6:00 pm

    Tey wouldn’t be pushing Bucholtz. With the off day he would be strating tonight on regular rest. They just know they are toast.

  56. Betsy September 26th, 2010 at 6:01 pm

    Cash, let’s just say that I’ve accepted the decision. Whether I like it or not, this is where we are and I hope it works out – simply for the fact that the longer this losing streak does, the more the uncertainty rises and the more we have to push the players.

  57. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 26th, 2010 at 6:01 pm

    “Even if they lost tonight, I wouldn’t be sweating this, but the organization apparently is and they’ve reacted accordingly.”

    Nor I, and I don’t believe their are sweating this. If we had two games left maybe they’d be sweating it. For them to have had Hughes prepared for this, they had planned for it. They didn’t know until last night’s game was over whether they would be using Moseley or Hughes.

    I don’t see that as sweating it. They want time to prepare for the postseason. They thought they’d win something against the fenway weenies and it didn’t pan out. So they had this in the works, in case.

    Good for them. Good for us. Not sweat. Strategy.

    That’s my story and I’m sticking to it. They are so much smarter than we give them credit for being. Truly.

    Anyway, onward and upward. A little extra motivation was provided by both Tampa and Minny today.

    What a hoot it’s going to be if the Yanks end up taking the division. Obviously the Jays and Sux will do everything in their power to make sure that doesn’t happen.

    :)

  58. JD September 26th, 2010 at 6:03 pm

    Pinstripes>loudpants

  59. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 26th, 2010 at 6:04 pm

    “Trish, then why isn’t Buchholz pitching tonight?”

    Because he isn’t prepared for it. The same thing you worried about with Hughes. Only the Yanks had Hughes in the ready. The Sux apparently weren’t doing the same thing. They bought the innings thing and the Moseley thing. And I am saying that if CC or Andy would have won, we probably would have seen Moseley.

    Anyway, it’s all good, regardless of the outcome of tonight’s game. It was the right move under the circumstances and that’s all you can ask for.

    O and U!

  60. jacksquat September 26th, 2010 at 6:04 pm

    I’m surprised the RS are not putting Buchholz out there. If they lose tonight they are basically done.

  61. UnKnown September 26th, 2010 at 6:04 pm

    Call it what you want panic or whatever other clever term. This is the right move. Girardi hopefully has finally realized that it might be important to actually TRY and win a game before the seasons over.

  62. UnKnown September 26th, 2010 at 6:06 pm

    I am really surprised Buchholz isnt going tonight. Especially after winning the first two games of the series. You would think the Sux would be in dire need realizing the great importance of a sweep and start Clay.

    I will take the break though. Now all we got to do after all this discussing is actually win the game Haha

  63. Bill D September 26th, 2010 at 6:10 pm

    “Because he isn’t prepared for it.”

    You have no idea what he is or isn’t prepared for. It’s the day he’d normally pitch. If they wanted him to pitch, they’d have him ready.

  64. Bill D September 26th, 2010 at 6:11 pm

    “I’m surprised the RS are not putting Buchholz out there. If they lose tonight they are basically done.”

    They’ve been basically done for three weeks.

  65. m September 26th, 2010 at 6:13 pm

    I think the Red Sox aren’t skipping Dice because they know what 99.8% of the people know. :)

  66. Rob B September 26th, 2010 at 6:15 pm

    Why isn’t Buchholz pitching tonight?

    Could it be that the Yankees, this season, have beat up on him pretty well?

    Of course, they’ve beat up on Matsuzaka as well. So, I guess it’s pick your poison.

  67. West Coast Yankee Fan September 26th, 2010 at 6:15 pm

    Betsy
    September 26th, 2010 at 5:41 pm

    I’m not assuming a win tonight by any means. Forget the pitching – the offense is still stuck in 5th gear. I’m not assuming a loss, either – just wait and see type of thing.

    ************

    Betsy, what do you base that statement on the offense on? The Yankees have scored 53 runs in their last 10 games including 8 runs or more in 4 of those games and 18 home runs.

  68. JD September 26th, 2010 at 6:18 pm

    Maybe Dice BB rediscovered his “gyro-ball”.

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