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A new day begins

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Sep 27, 2010 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

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What a difference a win makes.

Last week, my inbox was flooded with email after email of absolute panic. One went so far as to say it was guaranteed, no doubt about it, that the Yankees were going to lose every remaining game.

With one win, the Yankees have locked up at least a tie for the wild card. They’re a half game out of the division lead, and their magic number to clinch a playoff spot is one. Between the Yankees and the Red Sox, there are 13 chances for that “one” to happen.

“I think it’s a huge win for us because we’ve been scuffling and we’ve lost some leads late in games or we wouldn’t necessarily be in this position,” Joe Girardi said.

For the past two or three weeks, Girardi has managed as if this were April or May, and he’s taken a lot of heat for it. He’s rested his regulars off and on all year — especially when his regulars have been banged up or coming back from injuries — and for better or worse, Girardi did the same down the stretch. The playoff chase did not affect his decision making until Saturday night when he decided to push Phil Hughes into a game that wasn’t quite must-win, but certainly felt must-win.

It will be somewhat lost after all of the late drama of Sunday night, but Hughes could not have been better. If that’s the guy the Yankees are going to have in the playoffs, he might be their best option for Game 2. In what had to be the biggest start of his career, Hughes laid the early groundwork for the Yankees biggest win of the season.

“It’s not really any pressure taken off,” Hughes said. “We know we still need to win these next games coming up. It’s not like we’re a lock to go, and we’d still like to win the division as well. We have to play well these last six games and see what happens.”

Associated Press photo of Hughes

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351 Responses to “A new day begins”

  1. MTU September 27th, 2010 at 8:51 am

    This is just for you Phil. My tribute to you below. Great job, and big, big win for the team.

    http://picasaweb.google.com/cy.....rT3yKCkTw#

    :)

  2. upstate kate September 27th, 2010 at 8:53 am

    very nice MTU…and Phil certainly deserves it!

  3. blake September 27th, 2010 at 8:56 am

    (repost)

    Doreen,

    In the regular season. Yes. I think he will be fine. I really don’t know what happened last night. His stuff looks fine….he’s just missing locations. He’s not missing badly many times its just he’s missing just enough where he’s not getting the call and its causing him to pitch behind in counts much more often than he’s used to…..he’s been too good for most of this season for it to just all go away at once. (also, as Papelbon whined about….there was no strike zone late in that game last night….it wasn’t just him, Rivera and Hughes both got squeezed)

  4. blake September 27th, 2010 at 8:57 am

    MTU,

    nice pics….I like trees. Hughes = awesome

  5. MTU September 27th, 2010 at 9:00 am

    Blake-

    I missed the entire game. Off doing the “clinch” tribute.

    It’s amazing what one win can do for a team.

    Phil stepped up at just the right time.

  6. MTU September 27th, 2010 at 9:02 am

    kate-
    My pleasure. And you are absolutely right about Phil deserving it. :)

  7. Bret The Hitman September 27th, 2010 at 9:03 am

    Does anyone think Mo will retire after 2010 or maybe 2011?

    I think he’s close.

    Good morning :)

  8. Doreen September 27th, 2010 at 9:05 am

    Thanks for the responses about Mo, guys.

    I’m not sure myself. My husband is adamant that it should not happen any more. :)

  9. Doreen September 27th, 2010 at 9:05 am

    By the way – how lucky was ESPN, and to a lesser degree FOX, that this weekend with the Red Sox turned out to be important games?

  10. blake September 27th, 2010 at 9:07 am

    Its just incredible that Arod still has a chance at 30 HRs. In nearly 100 less plate appearances he has 7 more HR’s and 15 more RBI’s than Longoria does. For all the talk about him, Arod is still the best 3rd baseman in baseball.

    Also…..Arod is leading the AL in fielding % for 3rd basemen, Jeter for SS’s, Cano for 2nd basemen, and Teixera is 2nd for 1B with a .998)……those 4 have committed only a combined 18 errors this entire season which is just incredible as a group. There are other stats etc to grade fielding but their isn’t a more sure handed infield in baseball than the one the Yankees have.

  11. Bronx Jeers September 27th, 2010 at 9:08 am

    Yes trees and rocks are nice. But for a few hours, Phil was nicer.

  12. Rich in NJ September 27th, 2010 at 9:08 am

    I don’t understand the panic. It’s a freakin’ game that has nothing to do with our real lives.

  13. CR9 September 27th, 2010 at 9:08 am

    What a glorious morning!!!!!!!

    Isn’t it just fantastic that I found the 9th inning completely equal to both Rivera and Papelbon. One time I find something fair, and those criminal Bostonians complain like they got jobbed. The irony of it all!!

    Like Ive always said, I dont care if our guys get squeezed, as long as their guys get squeezed also. Fairness! Equal Opportunity! Justice! Say bye-bye to the closer’s job Pap! Maybe you can make up more lies about Yankees fans threatening your wife and family so as to look good!!!! :lol:

  14. JM September 27th, 2010 at 9:09 am

    Great photos in tribute to YMH, MTU. Well deserved.

    Does anyone else find it amusing that with the Yankees putrid play the past few days, they are only half a game behind Tampa? The Rays have not exactly been lighting the world on fire this month, either.

  15. MTU September 27th, 2010 at 9:09 am

    Blake-

    Absolutely right about that. The defense overall has just been rock solid most of the year.

    It’s not talked about nearly enough.

  16. SJ44 September 27th, 2010 at 9:09 am

    He’s not retiring after this year. Perhaps after next year.

    Last nights performance should put an end to the Phil Hughes Angst that shows up here everytime he pitches.

    He showed last night why he will be a front of the rotation starting pitcher.

  17. blake September 27th, 2010 at 9:10 am

    MTU,

    it was an ugly win. Hughes pitched great (mixed his pitches and showed tremendous poise given the circumstances) and so did Dice K for that matter. Arod put the offense on his shoulders again and gave them the lead and then the Yankees pretty much willed a win from there…..glass half empty it was an ugly win….glass half full, the Yankees showed a degree of fight and urgency that has been missing of late and found a way to win a game they really needed.

  18. Rich in NJ September 27th, 2010 at 9:11 am

    This season’s performance by Hughes should show why the Yankees should be patient with young,talented pitchers.

  19. MTU September 27th, 2010 at 9:11 am

    JM-
    Glad you liked them. Wait till you see the “clinch” tribute. Hopefully it will be very soon. :)

  20. 108 stitches September 27th, 2010 at 9:12 am

    Few would disagree that Phil Hughes is the No. 2 in the rotation after C.C.
    He gives the team a better chance than Burnett. He may have made a case last night in being the No. 2 starter in the playoffs with Burnett slotted as No. 4.

  21. Doreen September 27th, 2010 at 9:14 am

    SJ44 -

    If one thinks that Mo is going to retire after next season, what kind of contract do you think he might sign? One year deal? One with some kind of option? If he signs a one-year contract, I guess he will be asked if that means he’s definitely going to retire and that question might follow him throughout the season. I would say it could be a distraction, but we’re talking about Mariano Rivera, and nothing distracts him. :)

  22. blake September 27th, 2010 at 9:15 am

    I agree with what CB posted last night. If the Yankees have home field then I would throw both lefties at the Stadium and throw Hughes in game 3. If they are on the road then I would throw Hughes in game 2 and let Pettite start game 3 in NY.

    I also agree with what LGY post last night “how can the Yankees look Hughes in the eyes and tell him that AJ is pitching ahead of him in the postseason”? I don’t think they can…..

  23. CR9 September 27th, 2010 at 9:15 am

    Burnett has made the case all year that he’s nothing more than the number 4 at this point.

    Jerkface has said that if the Phils reach the World Series, they will be able to pitch their 1-3 starters 17 of 19 games on regular rest.

    I wonder how many times we will be able to do that?

  24. Bret The Hitman September 27th, 2010 at 9:15 am

    If Mo is looking like retirement after 2011, perhaps it would be wise to bring in JOAKIM SORIA this off season? hmm?

    :lol:

  25. MTU September 27th, 2010 at 9:17 am

    Blake-

    I gathered that from the comments. No matter. They needed it, and found a way to win.

    I am glad the Joe G. decided to go with YMH in such an important game.

    One more game and they can relax, and get ready for the “reset” that is the post season. If they manage to win the Division that would be even better.

  26. pat September 27th, 2010 at 9:19 am

    Doreen

    I’d like to see Mo (and Jeter) sign a contract for 1 year more than they plan on playing because they don’t seem to be the final year farewell tour through the league types.

  27. zippy September 27th, 2010 at 9:20 am

    This was not an urgency situation,? Cashman insisted after the Yanks pulled within one- half game of the first-place Rays in the AL East. ?We are making the playoffs and we are going to do a lot of damage (in the playoffs) and try to run the table.?
    _______________________
    I hope cashman is right, and I hope the offense wakes up because there will be no damon or matsui giving the opposing pitchers hell with their long tedious at bats, and ultimately winning games for us this post season. Berkman ? Kearns? Probably not.

  28. Rich in NJ September 27th, 2010 at 9:20 am

    “I’d like to see Mo (and Jeter) sign a contract for 1 year more than they plan on playing because they don’t seem to be the final year farewell tour through the league types.”

    I would rather see them sign one year contacts because that’s in the best interests of the franchise.

  29. Doreen September 27th, 2010 at 9:21 am

    pat -

    I agree – I can’t see them doing the whole Roger Clemens thing. And signing for the extra year takes the bloodhounds off their trails a bit. :)

  30. JM September 27th, 2010 at 9:21 am

    I know this has been said repeatedly, but Arod is such a special player. Hard to believe that it seems he will get 30 HRs this year after all, even after missing all that time and after the constant talk about his “power outage” for the first few months of this year.

    It is really a privilege to watch him play the game.

  31. Rich in NJ September 27th, 2010 at 9:22 am

    Yup, A-Rod is the clutchest player of all-time.

  32. SJ44 September 27th, 2010 at 9:23 am

    Doreen,

    Mo tipped off his plans earlier in the year when he said he was willing to go year to year with his next deal.

    I’m guessing that’s how it will end up.

    It’s too much of a generalization to say Hughes shows the Yankees should be patient with their young pitching.

    Like veteran players, some young players are worth being patient for and some are not.

    It’s more prudent to do it on a case by case basis.

  33. hardwired7 September 27th, 2010 at 9:23 am

    “One went so far as to say it was guaranteed, no doubt about it, that the Yankees were going to lose every remaining game.”

    hmmm…I wonder who that could have been?

    cough cough Ruby Tuesday cough cough

  34. blake September 27th, 2010 at 9:23 am

    MTU,

    I don’t think the O’s and Royals will roll over for the Rays, they are only a half game back. They will have to probably at a minimum win 4 of the last 6 games and get a little help…but its possible

  35. ac1 September 27th, 2010 at 9:24 am

    Mo may just go year to year from now on. He has said that was a possibility, like Pettitte does.

  36. pat September 27th, 2010 at 9:25 am

    “I would rather see them sign one year contacts because that?s in the best interests of the franchise.”

    I didn’t say they would play the extra year. Just that it would be there to allow a quick ride into the sunset rather than a three ring circus.

  37. blake September 27th, 2010 at 9:26 am

    It was mentioned in the last thread by pat but how about Arod faking bunt when Nunez was stealing 3rd….he has incredible instincts (right up there with Jeter) and they never get talked about. He plays every part of the game well from baserunning right on down….

  38. SJ44 September 27th, 2010 at 9:27 am

    At this level, everybody has talent.

    What separates stars from guys who don’t make it consistency and the ability to do it in big spots.

    That’s tougher to do. Especially for pitchers.

    To be mechanically sound enough to deliver quality pitches when you aren’t feeling your best or are tired (physically or mentally) is very tough to do.

    That, more than injuries, is why the burn rate for pitchers is much higher than any position on the field.

  39. ConcernedCitizen September 27th, 2010 at 9:28 am

    Didn’t watch the game last night (for reasons I don’t need to explain), but this proves that pitching Hughes was 100% the right decision.

  40. Rich in NJ September 27th, 2010 at 9:29 am

    “I didn’t say they would play the extra year. Just that it would be there to allow a quick ride into the sunset rather than a three ring circus.”

    I know, my point is that the risk of a decline in an aging player is so high that from a business perspective, that would be in the Yankees’ best interests.

    Any great year could be rewarded accordingly in a subsequent contract.

    Of course, I’m dreaming.

  41. Doreen September 27th, 2010 at 9:33 am

    So, I didn’t know Hughes was 11-4 at Yankee Stadium. So he’s winning there in spite of the HRs, I guess. :)

    SJ44 -

    Yes, I had forgotten that Mo said he’d be willing to go year to year. That would make the most sense; it seems to work for Andy Pettitte – he gets to re-evaluate himself after the season is over and I think the Yankees have learned to work with that situation.

  42. MTU September 27th, 2010 at 9:33 am

    Blake-
    Thought of you yesterday. Here we are out in the middle of nowhere returning from our explorations and we come upon a family whose car had quit. There they are parked in the road. We stop and get out to try and help to no avail. We’re on ATV’s because this very rugged and remote country.

    The Car is a Volvo and the guy driving it was a Dentist.

    Moral of the story is if you are Dentist don’t buy a Volvo, and if you do defintiely don’t run it in remote places. ;)

    On the other subject. With CC and AP we should have good shot at 2 of 4. And you are right. I don’t expect the O’s or KC to lay down.

    TB is going to have to do it the old fashioned way.

  43. Doreen September 27th, 2010 at 9:35 am

    I still think pat has the right idea as far as trying to avoid the circus atmosphere of “this is his last year in baseball.”

    I always thought that was tacky of Roger – ESPECIALLY when he changed his mind and didn’t retire!!!

  44. JCPD September 27th, 2010 at 9:36 am

    OK MTU, I see you put up your “fire” tribute…. here’s the corresponding “ice” Great pics by the way.

    http://picasaweb.google.com/10.....rbE8YyIdA#

  45. blake September 27th, 2010 at 9:37 am

    MTU,

    must be karma for inflicting all that pain I guess ;)….hope the guy got some help out there.

    We need the O’s to win 2 of 3 and the Royals to split the 4 game….either that or the Yanks will have to play very well in these final two series because the half game is in the Loss column and Tampa owns the tie break…..making the playoffs shouldn’t be a problem now though which is a good thing.

  46. Rich in NJ September 27th, 2010 at 9:39 am

    Roger has shown that he is a [insert expletive of choice]. Jeter and Mo would leave with far more class no matter what circus surrounded them in their final season.

  47. CR9 September 27th, 2010 at 9:41 am

    Let’s leave Roger alone! The guy choked year in and year out with the Red Sox, used steroids and allegedly committed statutory rape with the Red Sox. And was a clean 2 time World Series winner with us! Roger Roger Roger!

  48. JM September 27th, 2010 at 9:41 am

    Arod reminds me of Michael Jordan in the way both have such great instincts and such a great awareness and sense of the flow of the game at all times.

  49. Vineyard Yankee September 27th, 2010 at 9:42 am

    A great win last nite and not a moment too soon. Lets keep it going in Totonto.

  50. Chambliss September 27th, 2010 at 9:45 am

    “…Hughes will be a front of the rotation pitcher.”

    CORRECTION: Hughes IS a front of the rotation pitcher. Clutch performance last night on a night when a few runs would have spelled doom for this team.

  51. pat September 27th, 2010 at 9:46 am

    blake-

    Some people have great instincts. Some people have great talent. Those that have both are rare.

  52. MTU September 27th, 2010 at 9:46 am

    JCPD-
    You are definitely the Iceman. I get cold just looking at those photos. That’s more water than we have in the whole state. Keep ‘em coming. They’re awesome.

    Blake-

    We called in a tow truck for them and made sure they had plenty of water.

    That was the good news.

    The bad news was that it was Sunday, and they were in the middle of nowhere.

  53. Doreen September 27th, 2010 at 9:46 am

    So I’m watching the replay on ESPN2 (well, the DVR’d replay). I was wondering how they’d manage a 4-hour game in a 2-hour segment. They cut from the end of the third inning to Robertson in to pitch. that’s how.

    So I don’t really get to see how Hughes did. Next time, if I decide not to watch a game, I’ll DVR the darn thing live. :?

  54. upstate kate September 27th, 2010 at 9:47 am

    ahh but is he an ace and/or stud?

    great pix JCDP…altho it is too soon to be looking at snow

  55. RayVT September 27th, 2010 at 9:48 am

    Last night’s game was a thing of beauty and almost a snapshot of the whole season. Everyone pitching in and the unexpected happens.

    The RSox piece mealed the whole season with a lot of devastating injuries and scraped every step of the way and I have to tip my hat to them for their efforts.

    Tampa and the Yankees are both better teams with obvious flaws. Tampa lives & dies on Pitching & Defense with clutch hitting. Their weakness is middle bullpen & weak hitting lineup. I also think their SP is suspect beyond Price in the playoffs.

    The Yanks weakness is health and SP, although I think SP will be a strength come Playoff time. CC, AJ, AP & PH are all going to be very good IMO. AJ has looked much better of late and I believe he has the stuff to win in playoffs. AP had a blip after he did great his 1st game back from DL. CC & PH are doing great even though CC showed he was human.

    This team has depth. Depth in BP! Depth in hitting. Quality lineup that truly is circular when everyone is healthy.

  56. hardwired7 September 27th, 2010 at 9:50 am

    I like Bill Hall’s summation of Hughes here:

    “They planned on starting somebody else [Dustin Moseley], and they wound up going with one of the aces of their staff [Phil Hughes].”

    http://www.boston.com/sports/b....._with_win/

    YMH is a front-end starter, and it’s not someone in cyberspace saying it, but someone who actually gets into the box and faces him.

  57. Doreen September 27th, 2010 at 9:51 am

    Actually, they picked it up with Robertson pitching and 2 outs.

  58. pat September 27th, 2010 at 9:52 am

    “He planned on starting someone else. They ended up going with one of the aces of their staff. That gave us a lot of respect going into this game. They knew that it was almost a must-win for them.?

    Bill Hall thinks Phil is an ace. :wink:

  59. JCPD September 27th, 2010 at 9:53 am

    Thanks Upstate. Unfortunately, up here, you just know, snow is right around the corner. As I get older, I’m not as fond of the long winter anymore, but I sure do enjoy photographing it.

  60. pat September 27th, 2010 at 9:54 am

    hardwired-

    Beat me by 2 minutes.

    I knew I should have taken that Evelyn Wood Speed Reading course when I was growing up.

  61. blake September 27th, 2010 at 9:55 am

    pat,

    agreed.

    Almost forgot but Gardner did a good job of getting a bunt down last night. That turned out to be a really big play because his speed caused a mistake by the defense which led to the opportunity to win….

  62. Jason Voorhees September 27th, 2010 at 9:55 am

    Who the hell emails the blog writers complaining about the Yankees?

    It’s bad enough people complain in the comments section when absolutely no amount of whining, complaining, requests for firings, threats, etc. will do a single thing to change how any Yankee season plays out.

  63. upstate kate September 27th, 2010 at 9:55 am

    yeah but does he think Phil is a stud?

    JCPD
    we usually count on snow for Halloween, but that is still over a month away!

  64. Erica in NY September 27th, 2010 at 9:58 am

    What a difference a win makes.

    Last week, my inbox was flooded with email after email of absolute panic. One went so far as to say it was guaranteed, no doubt about it, that the Yankees were going to lose every remaining game.
    ***************

    What a joy it must be to read Chad’s inbox :roll:
    Yipes…. poor Chad!

  65. Doreen September 27th, 2010 at 9:58 am

    And then they skipped to Tex on base with ARod up.

    It’s like a highlight show. :(

  66. Tom in N.J. September 27th, 2010 at 9:59 am

    I was up in the Syracuse area for mother’s day…it snowed

  67. hardwired7 September 27th, 2010 at 10:02 am

    lol pat.

    ——

    my favorite Joe Morgan Moment from last night’s game was easily this nugget:

    he was describing his approach when to hitting. “On the first pitch, I went with a plan: I was looking for either a fast pitch or a slow pitch. By fast pitch, I mean a fastball, a splitter or a slider. Those are the ‘fast’ pitches. By slow pitch, I mean a changeup or a curveball. Those are the ‘slow’ pitches.”

    wow, Joe, that’s some plan you had there. way to really narrow it down.

  68. Doreen September 27th, 2010 at 10:02 am

    I don’t understand how they don’t show Tex getting on base. But they’re showing Cano’s at-bat, and I guess they’ll show to the end of the inning. And there’s plenty o’time for commercials, of course.

  69. hardwired7 September 27th, 2010 at 10:03 am

    ‘when to hitting’ s/b ‘when hitting’ (though I do think ‘when to hitting’ is pretty awesome.)

  70. Doreen September 27th, 2010 at 10:05 am

    So, I understand why they showed Cano. Great catch by Kalish. Robbed Robbie.

  71. upstate kate September 27th, 2010 at 10:07 am

    my favorite Joe Morgan moment was all the love he was giving to Robbie
    I hope Erin got to see that

  72. Erica in NY September 27th, 2010 at 10:08 am

    Tom in N.J. September 27th, 2010 at 9:59 am
    I was up in the Syracuse area for mother?s day?it snowed
    ***************

    It snowed in Albany the weekend of my college graduation. May 20th & 21st

  73. Doreen September 27th, 2010 at 10:08 am

    Again, they skip ahead to top ninth, one on out.

    Sigh.

    I’ll learn. Mostly I have to remember I HAVE a DVR. :lol:

  74. Erica in NY September 27th, 2010 at 10:09 am

    upstate kate September 27th, 2010 at 10:07 am
    my favorite Joe Morgan moment was all the love he was giving to Robbie
    I hope Erin got to see that
    **************

    That reminds me………
    Big announcement coming!

  75. West Coast Yankee Fan September 27th, 2010 at 10:10 am

    Clever headline from Mike Axisa on RAB. By the way, there was a tweet read by Bob Lorenz on post-game from a Mike Axisa.

    “Yanks win back-and-forth affair in walk-off fashion, reduce magic number to Juan”.

  76. Erica in NY September 27th, 2010 at 10:10 am

    ERIN UPDATE!

    I sent Erin (my younger twin) all of your well wishes. She was busy over the weekend and had meeting throughout the day today, but hopes to be back tomorrow!!!

  77. Tom in N.J. September 27th, 2010 at 10:11 am

    Mark Tawin once said this about the weather in central NY: If you don’t like the weather wait a minute, it’ll change.

    So true.

  78. upstate kate September 27th, 2010 at 10:12 am

    that is very clever…did he get pie? I didn’t see any pie :(

  79. upstate kate September 27th, 2010 at 10:13 am

    Tom
    even more true about upstate NY

    Erica
    glad to hear Erin will be rejoining us

  80. West Coast Yankee Fan September 27th, 2010 at 10:13 am

    No pie for walk-off-walks. Thankfully.

  81. Doreen September 27th, 2010 at 10:15 am

    Those stolen bases – whoa.

  82. pat September 27th, 2010 at 10:16 am

    “I didn?t see any pie”

    AJ probably flew ahead and no one filled in. He owes Juan one.

  83. Doreen September 27th, 2010 at 10:16 am

    I’m sure glad I know how this game turns out!!! :lol:

  84. West Coast Yankee Fan September 27th, 2010 at 10:17 am

    So what are the odds of Washington or Gardenhire running wild on Posada and Mo in late inning, pressure situations ? 100%? 99%? If I am either manager I’m putting a burner on the roster just for that eventuality.

    Mo is going to have to do a better job of holding runners on.

  85. Vineyard Yankee September 27th, 2010 at 10:17 am

    WCYF:

    Drinking already ? In the early morning no less, did you already go to Harry’s Liquors with Bill / Barry ?

  86. Doreen September 27th, 2010 at 10:17 am

    No relief pie-er????

  87. Don Vito A. Bellamo September 27th, 2010 at 10:19 am

    Does anyone know if we win or lose the tiebreaker if we are tied with Minnesota with the best record in AL, as in do we or do they get the HFA in that case ?

  88. pat September 27th, 2010 at 10:19 am

    “Mo is going to have to do a better job of holding runners on.”

    Keeping them off would be my first choice.

  89. West Coast Yankee Fan September 27th, 2010 at 10:20 am

    Hi Vineyard. I’m working a bit and posting. How’s things in beautiful Sonoma county?

  90. Vineyard Yankee September 27th, 2010 at 10:20 am

    Tony Pena has been added to the 40 man roster as a late inning defensive replacement. I’ll have that Miller High Life and a Hot Link now, hold the ketchup. Thank you very much.

  91. SJ44 September 27th, 2010 at 10:20 am

    Mo doesn’t have to do much. Just look at the runner occasionally. lol

    He didn’t even shoot a casual glance last night.

    Better it happened now than the start of the post-season. Makes it easier to adjust.

    Or, you can do it the old fashioned way and not allow any guys to reach base.

  92. Don Vito A. Bellamo September 27th, 2010 at 10:20 am

    We beat them 4 out of 6, so I would think we get it, right ?

  93. Vineyard Yankee September 27th, 2010 at 10:24 am

    Supposed to be 100 plus today. Not my cup of tea. Going to roll out so I can get my crap done before it starts to cook. How’s that beachfront view ? Any interesting varieties of fish swimming about this morning ?

  94. JM September 27th, 2010 at 10:25 am

    If we get in as the wild card we don’t get homefield advantage over a division winner.

  95. West Coast Yankee Fan September 27th, 2010 at 10:26 am

    It accentuates the Yankees catching problems for next year. With all the buzz about how deep at catcher we are in the minors, how ironic is it that we may have to go get us one this winter.

  96. West Coast Yankee Fan September 27th, 2010 at 10:27 am

    It’s 95 at the beach Vineyard, that’s unheard of. The poor folks in the Valley are dealing with 110+

  97. sunny615 September 27th, 2010 at 10:27 am

    The starters for the Toronto series will be:

    Monday:
    AJ Burnett, RHP (10-14) 5.05 ERA
    Burnett had his last start limited to just three innings by rain, the second time in three starts he has been knocked out by weather. Burnett is 1-2 with a 4.33 ERA in five September starts after going winless in August.
    vs
    Marc Rzepczynski, LHP (2-4) 5.75 ERA
    Rzepczynski snapped his winless drought at six outings (0-3, 7.33 ERA) with a victory at home over the Mariners on Tuesday. The left-hander allowed two runs on seven hits over 6 1/3 innings and matched a season high with eight strikeouts.

    Tuesday:
    CC Sabathia, LHP (20-7) 3.26 ERA
    Sabathia would be on turn to make the start Tuesday, but the Yankees may push him back for rest if they clinch a playoff spot by then. Sabathia got lit up for seven runs in 5 1/3 innings Sept. 23 by the Rays in his last start.
    vs
    Kyle Drabek, RHP (0-2), 4.91 ERA
    Drabek is searching for his first Major League win after taking a loss at home against the Mariners on Wednesday. The 22-year-old righty — promoted from Double-A on Sept. 15 — gave up three runs on four hits (two home runs) over five innings.

    Wednesday:
    Yankees.com still has Phil Hughes listed, but I’m guessing it’ll be Andy Pettitte or Dustin Moseley?
    vs
    Brett Cecil, LHP (14-7) 4.20 ERA
    On Friday at home, Cecil took over the staff lead with his 14th win of the season in a victory over Baltimore. The lefty allowed three runs (two earned) on 11 hits, playing damage control in an outing he ended with four strikeouts and no walks.

  98. upstate kate September 27th, 2010 at 10:29 am

    I believe Don means if the Yankees win the AL east, and have the same # of wins as the Twins, who gets HFA

  99. sunny615 September 27th, 2010 at 10:30 am

    IF the Yankees win the division, winning the head to head, the Yankees would get HFA. I think it goes to better Home record if the series were tied.

  100. pat September 27th, 2010 at 10:32 am

    In honor of Erin’s impending return…….Cano and Bo – Robbie goes Boom Nike commercial.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abEowl9jLT0

  101. JM September 27th, 2010 at 10:33 am

    # upstate kate September 27th, 2010 at 10:29 am

    I believe Don means if the Yankees win the AL east, and have the same # of wins as the Twins, who gets HFA
    _________________

    Duh, I am clueless this morning. Must be lack of sleep. They would get HFA if both teams win their divisions, I think because Yankees won season series against the Twinkies.

  102. BIG AL September 27th, 2010 at 10:33 am

    JCPD & MTU -

    Great job on the pictures – WOW!

  103. sunny615 September 27th, 2010 at 10:33 am

    BTW, if the Yanks and Rays finish the season tied for first, since the Rays won the head-to-head series, the Rays would win the division.

  104. hardwired7 September 27th, 2010 at 10:33 am

    hopefully the Fightin’ Showalters can show the Rays what Buckyball is all about tonight.

  105. West Coast Yankee Fan September 27th, 2010 at 10:35 am

    Classy comments from Pedroia about Cano, saying he thinks he should be the AL MVP. (gulp, that was hard to type)

  106. Vineyard Yankee September 27th, 2010 at 10:36 am

    WCYF:

    AJ tonite huh, I guess in my travels today I better stop and get a couple of gallons on ‘Potato Vodka’ to sedate myself for tonites game.

    On the other hand maybe the ‘HeadCase’ can take a page out of Phil’s book last nite and give us a fair chance to win tonite with a ‘semi quality’ good start.

    Just asking AJ. If you don’t ask you can’t receive. LOL !

  107. sunny615 September 27th, 2010 at 10:36 am

    Here is the tiebreaker criteria, replacing coin flips:

    1. Head-to-head record
    2. Intradivision record
    3. Intraleague record in last half of intraleague games
    4. Intraleague record in last half plus one of intraleague games

  108. Vineyard Yankee September 27th, 2010 at 10:38 am

    Pedroia is better that Pukelis. Not by much though.

  109. sunny615 September 27th, 2010 at 10:38 am

    Tiebreaker scenarios
    If two teams are tied atop the division and both are assured of making the postseason, head-to-head record would be used to determine which team is the division champ and which falls to the Wild Card.
    If two teams are tied atop the division and share the Wild Card lead with another club, the ties will be broken in the following fashion:
    • The teams tied atop the division will play, with the winner taking the division.
    • The losing team will then play the remaining Wild Card contender, with the winner making the playoffs.
    If three clubs are tied atop a division or Wild Card standings, each club would be designated in one of three slots, “A,” “B,” or “C.” Clubs get to choose their designation based on head-to-head records. Tiebreaking games would then proceed like this:
    • Club A hosts Club B on Monday, Oct. 4
    • The winner of the first game hosts Club C on Oct. 5, with the winner declared champion.

  110. West Coast Yankee Fan September 27th, 2010 at 10:39 am

    Vineyard – excellent thought on sedating yourself for AJ starts. Kind of late in the year for that gem though, but brilliant nonetheless.

  111. SAS September 27th, 2010 at 10:40 am

    Good morning all,

    MTU and JCPD,

    As always your pictures make my morning.

    ——————————————————————————-

    It will be interesting to see what Mo decides to do. Andy also has a decision to make. These next few years will put a new face on the team as a whole which will seem strange to all of us. Some people on here have only been fans since the Core 4, and even though it is far from true with me….life will be strange without them.

  112. West Coast Yankee Fan September 27th, 2010 at 10:41 am

    They both pale in comparison to Papelpuke on the hate-o-meter.

  113. JCPD September 27th, 2010 at 10:42 am

    Thanks BIG AL, glad you enjoyed them.

  114. SAS September 27th, 2010 at 10:42 am

    Upstate Kate,

    Someone on here signed on as just “Upstate”. You rarely comment at night so I assume it wasn’t you, and the comment wasn’t important….I was just surprised to see it.

  115. JCPD September 27th, 2010 at 10:43 am

    Glad I could start your day off on a good note SAS.

  116. The Genius Maker September 27th, 2010 at 10:45 am

    Can anyone explain why Girardi used Nunez and Pena to pinch run when Golson was going into the game anyway? I was dumbfounded at the time and still don’t get it? The only thing I thought of was that he didn’t want to lose the hole for Tex so Nunez was just a fast decoy, but why pinch run Pena and not use Golson at that spot? Really dumb.

  117. Vineyard Yankee September 27th, 2010 at 10:46 am

    ‘Papelpuke’ is the ‘King of the Hill’ for sure. You have a good day. As my dentist (jerk) would say, ‘I’m out now’ Ha ! Ha !

  118. upstate kate September 27th, 2010 at 10:46 am

    SAS
    you are correct, that is someone else

  119. West Coast Yankee Fan September 27th, 2010 at 10:47 am

    Wink! Drive safely Vineyard, call you later.

  120. tyanksfan36 September 27th, 2010 at 10:48 am

    All this weather talk is making me wish I lived somewhere other than Florida. It doesn’t tend to start getting really cold until february. I am planning on moving up to Connecticut in a year and a half after I graduate college but I am definitely worried about how cold it gets up there. Having lived in Florida my whole life my blood is seriously water, it gets 70 here and I need a jacket.

  121. 86w183 September 27th, 2010 at 10:50 am

    So much for no more multi-inning saves. Mariano has not looked good in his longer outings and hopefully there won’t be any more of them.

    It would make the off-season a lot more interesting if Mo decided to retire, wouldn’t it? The debate would be about Rafael Soriano vs letting Wood/Joba fight it out vs other potential options.

  122. West Coast Yankee Fan September 27th, 2010 at 10:54 am

    tyanks, this was the warmest year on record so not many places are immune. I know what you mean about Florida though, that heat and humidity combo is lethal. I used to live in Houston, same deal. Miserable. New Orleans is the same.

    I heartily recommend the Southern California coast. Paradise.

  123. JM September 27th, 2010 at 10:57 am

    Papelbum and Beckett are about equal on my “players I really, truly can’t stand” list.

  124. CountryClub September 27th, 2010 at 11:00 am

    I doubt CC starts Tuesday. They’ll go back to the original plan and move him to Friday. The other guys can stay where they are because it would line AJ up for game 2 (something I’m afraid is going to happen) and Andy for game 3.

  125. West Coast Yankee Fan September 27th, 2010 at 11:03 am

    You know as painful as it is for Yankee fans to contemplate LACF, (life after the core four) I think Pettitte has the right idea. You want to walk away from the game while you are still effective, not when your skills have degenerated to the point where your legacy is tarnished. So many great athlete’s have made that mistake, the Mick comes to mind immediately. He often said one of his greatest regrets was hanging on so long that his lifetime BA dropped under .300.

    I hope Mo, Jeter and Posada don’t make that mistake.

  126. BIG AL September 27th, 2010 at 11:03 am

    sunny615 September 27th, 2010 at 10:38 am
    Tiebreaker scenarios

    *********************************************

    What? You can’t give a detailed explanation, lol.

  127. BIG AL September 27th, 2010 at 11:07 am

    West Coast Yankee Fan September 27th, 2010 at 11:03 am

    *********************************************

    You are right about The Mick, but Mick had made some very poor investments in the insurance business, and was essentially broke. His last year with the Yankees was his best pay day at $100K. Think of what he’d make today in his prime, more than A-Rod perhaps.

  128. tyanksfan36 September 27th, 2010 at 11:07 am

    West Coast

    The heat/humidity doesn’t really bother me because it is so hot for so much of the year here. I also have a good ac in my house and car. Its the cold that gets me.

  129. West Coast Yankee Fan September 27th, 2010 at 11:10 am

    tyanks get out there and play some b-ball!

  130. ac1 September 27th, 2010 at 11:11 am

    i think the if the yankees win tonight or the sox lose, cc will be bumped back. if not, i think they just want to get this clinching over with so i say he starts.

  131. blake September 27th, 2010 at 11:11 am

    “The other guys can stay where they are because it would line AJ up for game 2 (something I’m afraid is going to happen) and Andy for game 3.”

    I just can’t see that happening. Maybe you’re right but I think they see Hughes as a better pitcher than AJ because he is….

  132. The Genius Maker September 27th, 2010 at 11:12 am

    West Coast Yankee fan. I agree that you don;t want to ruin a good/great career with stinking for the last few years, but of the big 4 you names only Jeter is having a weak year. Posada is still calling a good game and hitting as well as almost any catcher. Mo, while struggling of late, is still perhaps the best closer in the game. Pettitte was having his best year in his life until the last outing. I don’t want Mo, Pettitte or Posada to retire and I think Jeter will be slightly better than this year, next year and then get progressively worse.

  133. ac1 September 27th, 2010 at 11:12 am

    but… i think Hughes is done until the playoffs, save for an inning here or there.

    I truly believe CC/Pettitte/Hughes should be 1/2/3. or CC/Hughes/Pettitte. Hughes proved his value, especially when they needed him last night.

    No one not lying to themselves can say AJ is a better option than Hughes.

  134. West Coast Yankee Fan September 27th, 2010 at 11:13 am

    True Al. The latter part of Mick’s career and life was tragic in so many respects. He was larger than life that’s for sure. Kids today think that Jete is popular – they have no idea.

  135. Joe from Long Island September 27th, 2010 at 11:14 am

    Good morning –

    I think Joe finds Nunez a better baserunner and/or steal threat than Golson. He’s done that move a couple of times now, and Nunez’ steal of 3rd last likely built that case even more.

    Thank goodness for the W. This place was getting intolerable.

    May they get another W tonight, and clinch a berth. Maybe some of the special characters will then go away, at least for a little while.

  136. blake September 27th, 2010 at 11:15 am

    I would let CC decide….tell him that his next start will either be skipped or shortened and then let him choose which he things would help him more.

  137. West Coast Yankee Fan September 27th, 2010 at 11:15 am

    Genius Maker, absolutely. I was speaking conceptually, I was in no way suggesting the time for them to retire was now.

  138. bruceb September 27th, 2010 at 11:17 am

    My overwhelming feeling was one of relief after last night’s game. My expectations for this team have plummeted during the month of September. The “Core Four” played a major part in winning the World Series last year but one has to ask the question: was that their swan song? Jeter has had a pretty awful year, Posada couldn’t catch Bernie Madoff stealing and while Andy P has been fantastic all year, it’s asking an awful lot for him to return to his best in time for the playoffs. Now, it seems, Old Father Time is even catching up on the evergreen Mariano. Right now, this team looks old and tired. Whatever happens in the playoffs, I think it is time for an injection of youth next year. But that’s not going to be easy given the number of players on long-term contracts and the likelihood that Jeter will be given a new deal longer than his performance level actually merits.

  139. ac1 September 27th, 2010 at 11:21 am

    think Joe finds Nunez a better baserunner and/or steal threat than Golson. He’s done that move a couple of times now, and Nunez’ steal of 3rd last likely built that case even more.

    Thank goodness for the W. This place was getting intolerable.

    May they get another W tonight, and clinch a berth. Maybe some of the special characters will then go away, at least for a little while.

    __

    Doubt it. Then they will complain about HFA.

  140. Rich in NJ September 27th, 2010 at 11:21 am

    “I knew I should have taken that Evelyn Wood Speed Reading course when I was growing up.”

    Trust me, pat, no you don’t………

  141. blake September 27th, 2010 at 11:22 am

    Game 1 of the ALDS is next Wednesday (October 6)…if CC wants to be on normal rest for that game then pushing him to Friday is probably what they will do. That puts him on 4 days rest for Game 1 and by his comments it seems that’s what he would prefer…

  142. The Genius Maker September 27th, 2010 at 11:23 am

    Posada is 5th in all of baseball for OPS (400+ PA’s) from catchers and the Mauer and Martinez are ahead of him in the AL and you can’t tell me Martinez is better defensively than Posada…no way. Some people were on Posada for the 4 SB’s, but they were all on Mo. The Yankee pitchers are bad at holding runners on except for Pettitte, but Posada has a tiny bit better than Cervelli, but both in general people have SB’s against us at an alarmingly high rate, basically stealing 85% of the bases successfully.

  143. sunny615 September 27th, 2010 at 11:24 am

    Dead horse topic – I’m trying to find out what happened to the 2007 Joba and his 100mph heater. The only thing I can find of any discernable note was his shoulder tendonitis:

    “On August 4, Chamberlain injured his shoulder in a game against the Texas Rangers and was placed on the 15-day disabled list with rotator cuff tendinitis.[25] but he was sidelined until September 2.”

    Others note a alteration of his mechanics to avoid that injury again as the reason for his 92-94 mph-ness. Other site that he has just “settled down”. Others site that he just mentally isn’t there anymore. I’m beginning to believe that he is infact no longer a 100 mph guy. Ever. He’s jumped in velocity from time to time – even hitting 98 again a few months back, but it hasn’t been sustainable.

    Does anyone here know what happened to the 07 Joba?

  144. ac1 September 27th, 2010 at 11:24 am

    I think it is time for an injection of youth next year. But that’s not going to be easy given the number of players on long-term contracts and the likelihood that Jeter will be given a new deal longer than his performance level actually merits.
    __

    I think we are good with Alex, Cano and Tex.

    Posada has one year left on his contract, and hopefully will be sharing it with Montero.

    Gardner, Granderson and Swish are all in their 20s.

    The pen is young, the starters are fairly young, and they will be adding Lee most likely.

    Rivera is just in a rough patch.
    Pettitte was injured.

    Where exactly do we need youth?

    We need guys to just play to their potential.

  145. The Genius Maker September 27th, 2010 at 11:29 am

    West Coast, got it and then I agree.
    Joe from Long Island, I am not sure if it is true about Nunez being a better base stealer than Golson, but my main point was that why waste the player as the difference is probably not very much and you don’t waste the player because you lose the opportunity to pinch run for Posada or someone in the next inning. The question is more in line with the hypothetical case if Golson were on 1st base and you could be allowed to pinch run for Golson with Nunez and then reinstate Golson but you lose Nunez for the game, would you do it? The answer is no.

  146. MTU September 27th, 2010 at 11:32 am

    Al/SAS-

    Glad you enjoyed the photos. Got the “clinch” tribute ready.

    Maybe tomorrow ?

    SAS. Always happy to help someone get their day started right. :)

  147. blake September 27th, 2010 at 11:35 am

    “Does anyone here know what happened to the 07 Joba? ”

    I’m not sure that Joba is ever coming back, however there is still a model in there somewhere that is close….When he keeps his shoulder closed and stays on top towards the target then then he can still generate great velocity…I really think he needs to improve his conditioning in the off season which would hopefully in turn help him repeat his delivery more consistently…I think its mostly mechanical and that’s you’ll see 97 one outing and 92 the next…I’ve said before that if the Yankees can get a good return then they should consider trading Joba this winter. That doesn’t mean I’m giving up on him…just means that if he’s not going to start again then I would look into whether another team still thinks he can and if so what they would give. That said, there is still a lot of talent there to tap into…the return would need to be substantial to outweigh what he COULD be worth to the Yankees.

  148. SJ44 September 27th, 2010 at 11:36 am

    Youth isn’t always better. Folks often forget that when talking about the Yankees “old” players.

    The same folks who want young players complain when the Gardner’s, Hughes’, Nova’s etc, make youthful mistakes.

    The better teams have a balance between youth and experience, as the Yankees have at the present time.

  149. CountryClub September 27th, 2010 at 11:41 am

    The Yankees really arent old. Some of their key players (notably the core four and Arod) are old, but they have a lot of key players (CC, Tex, Cano, Swish) in their prime. It’s a good mix, IMO.

  150. bruceb September 27th, 2010 at 11:43 am

    ac1 September 27th, 2010 at 11:24 am
    I think it is time for an injection of youth next year. But that’s not going to be easy given the number of players on long-term contracts and the likelihood that Jeter will be given a new deal longer than his performance level actually merits.
    __

    I think we are good with Alex, Cano and Tex.

    Posada has one year left on his contract, and hopefully will be sharing it with Montero.

    Gardner, Granderson and Swish are all in their 20s.

    The pen is young, the starters are fairly young, and they will be adding Lee most likely.

    Rivera is just in a rough patch.
    Pettitte was injured.

    Where exactly do we need youth?

    We need guys to just play to their potential.

    Granderson and Swisher will both be 30 by the time next season starts and at 35, A-Rod is already showing signs of wear and tear. Expect him to miss even more games next season. I know there are those who expect Jeter to have a bounce back year but I’m not among them. Posada is no longer capable of being an everyday catcher. You can only play one DH each game. Nothing last forever in this life…not even Andy and Mo. It’s time to start grooming the next generation.

  151. pat September 27th, 2010 at 11:44 am

    Late night/early morning for the Yanks to arrive in Toronto.

    No Jorge is a given for tonight I would guess.

    Wonder if Girardi will rest some other(s) given the travel and the turf?

  152. blake September 27th, 2010 at 11:45 am

    I just saw the highlights from last night and I still don’t know how Arod hit that pitch out the other way against the wind.

  153. West Coast Yankee Fan September 27th, 2010 at 11:46 am

    ac1 – it’s common knowledge that we are a rapidly aging team. Older players play up to their potential, but that potential is not what it used to be. Petitte, Mo, Jeter, Posada and A-Rod are all starters/key players and all are over 35 years of age. The peak age of a major league ballplayer is 27-29 years of age depending upon which study one wants to believe.

    Also, you are talking about replacing future Hal of Fame players, that’s not easy to do. There is much debate about whether Gardner should be a starter and Granderson and Swisher are not great players they are good players. By the way Swisher will be 31 in a month or two I believe.

    I don’t think the pen is young, our two best pitchers are Mo and Wood, 40 and 33. Joba and Robertson do not a bullpen make. Also you say Mo is in a rough patch. How exactly do you know that? It is far more likely his skills are diminishing at 40 than the other.

  154. sunny615 September 27th, 2010 at 11:46 am

    A lot of what I read has been mechanical issues – violent delivery, cannot repeat his mechanics, not staying up on the rubber, etc…

    shouldn’t that be something they can fix?

  155. sunny615 September 27th, 2010 at 11:47 am

    What’s more amazing is that Arod still could hit 30 hr and have 100 rbi for his 14th (?) straight season – a record.

  156. blake September 27th, 2010 at 11:49 am

    “shouldn’t that be something they can fix?”

    should be, but a lot of it will be up to Joba.

  157. ac1 September 27th, 2010 at 11:50 am

    I don’t think the pen is young, our two best pitchers are Mo and Wood, 40 and 33. Joba and Robertson do not a bullpen make. Also you say Mo is in a rough patch. How exactly do you know that? It is far more likely his skills are diminishing at 40 than the other.
    __

    probably because he has one of these bad months every year.

    Also, how can you say it is age?

    what was cano’s excuse in 2008?
    What is the excuse for offense down around the league?
    before pettitte got hurt, he was having his best year.
    Posada i will agree with.
    Granderson and Swisher aren’t good? I think you are just looking for problems now. 25 teams would kill to have those two.

    And the bullpeb IS young. just because rivera is 40 and wood is 33. there are others in there and none of them are 30.

    You are just using the parts of facts that make your argument look better.

    Your logic is so flawed there is just no place to begin.

  158. Cashman needs to go September 27th, 2010 at 11:50 am

    I think it would be a huge mistake to assume rivera will be the rivera of old next year – i really think bringing in a bona fide closer for next year is priority – do you really want to see mo pulling a trevor hoffman next year without a back up closer ready? The man is 42 years old and we have seen him losing it just a bit this year – other than barry bonds no one over 40 has been able to keep it going after 40…i’ve never seen rivera “exhaling” so much as i have this year….the end is coming and it may be sooner than anyone thinks or hopes..

    oh and you HAVE to get a better catcher next year if montero isn’t the answer….posada is just about cooked behind the plate (and at times at bat) and cervelli doesn’t bring anything offensively or defensively for him to warrant starting 120 + games next year

    oh and how long before people start saying that no matter how fast you are if you don’t have good running instincts you may as well be a molina brother (I’m looking at you gardner)

  159. UnKnown September 27th, 2010 at 11:50 am

    Watch out for a solid performance from Drabek. Would be nice to get to a rook one time this year.

  160. sunny615 September 27th, 2010 at 11:51 am

    new post ->

  161. Joe from Long Island September 27th, 2010 at 11:53 am

    Genius Maker – I see your point, and I had the same thought last night. I’m just trying to explain the thought process there, not necessarily agreeing with it. FWIW, last night, I would have used Golson for just that reason, though I can see Joe’s reason.

  162. jpb173 September 27th, 2010 at 11:55 am

    In June I began to notice that this Yankee team did not have the killer instinct to close out games or make strong comebacks. Last year’s team seemed to fight the opponent to the last out and when they had a lead they added to it. But this year’s team seems to play down to the opposition and plays like it feels that it can “turn it on” whenever it needs to. Last night’s game may have been an exhilarating win and probably ensured that the Yankees will make the playoffs. Nonetheless the signs are still there that this team just doesn’t have it.

    I think the Yankees lost some strong-willed players in the offseason (Damon, Matsui and Molina) and replaced them with some guys who aren’t as strong-willed (Granderson, Winn, Vazquez and Park). As a result I don’t believe (and I’ve felt this for a couple of months now) that the Yankees will go very far in the playoffs. I’m hopeful, though, that the front office will realize the mistakes they made last offseason and get it right this offseason. Besides adding Cliff Lee and, maybe, Crawford/Worth the Yankees need to make sure that the players they bring in are as strong-willed and have the killer instinct that we had with last year’s team.

  163. West Coast Yankee Fan September 27th, 2010 at 11:55 am

    ac1 – with all due respect my logic is not flawed, every knowledgeable baseball professional I have heard or read who commented on the matt\er acknowledges that the Yankees are an aging team. Girardi and Cashman have said so when they are explaining their rationale for resting players. You think they are resting players because they are young?

    I also said above that Granderson and Swisher are good players not great players. You got that wrong as you got Swishers age wrong.

    You are wrong factually, but if you want to pretend otherwise feel free.

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