Burnett takes another step back
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Sep 27, 2010 
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In what felt like a new low point for A.J. Burnett, the Yankees wildly unpredictable starter faced 16 batters tonight in Toronto and got only seven of them out. The Yankees offense rallied and the bullpen pitched well, but Burnett left a hole the Yankees couldn’t escape in a 7-5 loss to the Blue Jays.
Associated Press photo of Burnett
CC should NOT pitch tomorrow.
If AJ will no longer be relied on to start a playoff game, the loss wasn’t a total waste.
Another 2-0 count. You werent the tying run Mark. Your Godly teammate Alex was; shouldve taken a pitch or two.
People can say what they want about the offense but the bottom line is that they scored 5 runs and that should have been enough to win.
This game is almost entirely on AJ.
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Awful loss…………..AJ sucks, I’m sorry, he does. He totally took his team out of it – and he’s been doing that time and time and time again. It’s embarrassing. Now that said, before the game got out of hand, the Yankees failed to bring in the RISP with less than 2 outs, so that’s inexcusable. I can’t say I’m proud of this team for backing into the playoffs, which is exactly what they are doing. If the season went on any further, I’ve no doubt they’d fall out of it.
Very unlikely the Yankees win more than one game this season. Need the White Sox to at least take one from Boston.
The age and injury bill is coming due for the Yankees right now. A lot of slow bats in the lineup right now. Just not a very good offense as we speak.
Of course, the story of the game was Burnett. He gave his team no chance to win.
If Cashman and Girardi start Burnett at all… what kind of message does that send to the rest of the team?
If a borderline HOFer Mike Mussina can be pulled from the playoff rotation, so can the disastrous AJ Burnett. The guy didn’t even compete tonight.
“People can say what they want about the offense but the bottom line is that they scored 5 runs and that should have been enough to win.
This game is almost entirely on AJ.”
Very fair.
It’s hard to see how Girardi would trust a playoff game to AJ at this point. This will be an interesting watch.
Hmmm. Is it me or does it look like Burnett is extra thin in that picture?
I believe he may have finally pitched his way out of the playoff rotation. The guy hopefully has come clean to his teammates and skipper about his “problem,” whatever it may be.
“If Cashman and Girardi start Burnett at all… what kind of message does that send to the rest of the team?”
Forget the team. What kind of message does it send about their intelligence?
That last inning is emblematic of what’s wrong with the offense. Gregg wasn’t throwing stikes and the team just hacked away. Not good at bats at all.
Yeah jeter swings at a 2-0 fastball right down the middle but that’s overanxious. No, that’s working the count and swinging at a great pitch to hit. They were down two not ten. Jesus some of u are so ****ing stupid it makes me sick.
Burnett has 15 losses??? WOW Lets see if he makes it to 16.
If they start Burnett, it will be so Cashman/Girardi can sooth his ego and justify the contract
No other logical conclusion can be drawn from a decision to start Burnett in any capacity.
Hell, he shouldn’t even be on the postseason roster.
Can you even trust AJ out of the bullpen?
KC now has taken the lead over Minny 10-8. Top of the 5th
None of this is surprising. Spoiler teams bring out their best games when trying to keep teams from clinching. About KC – we all know they can hit!
As to next year, I’m concerned. I feel like this is 2008 all over again, where uncertainty over 2009 ruled. The lineup, despite having great or very good hitters, has absolutely fallen apart for the last few weeks (yes, I know they tried to come back late tonight) and I’ve no idea what can be done about it. I am worried about the lineup.
The pitching? Lee is a necessity although if he continues to pitch on 3 days rest, the Yanks had better monitor his back. If we sign him, with CC, Lee and Phil – we have a fine top 3. Then we need Andy back (though at his age, he’s not that reliable because you have to worry about injury) or another solid vet to go with AJ. I said before though, the Yankees have to be careful with Phil and think ahead to next year.
theREALkevin, thanks for hanging in there.
Explain Swisher’s and Teixeira’s at bats.
If AJ starts ahead of Phil, then Joe and Cash ought to have their heads examined. AJ should not be starting, period. The lousy pitcher on my office softball team could do better…………
AJ Burnett has a lot of thinking to do this off season and a lot of work ahead of him. He and Javy couldn’t have been any worse this season.
I want Nova in Game 4 with a short leash in the 5th.
Bustnett is 5 games under .500 on a team 30+ games over .500… and he’s made 30 starts.
Someone would have to check, but I believe he is the worst Yankee pitcher to ever make 30 starts on a playoff-bound Yankee team.
The New York Yankees is a perfect analogy for the current state of this country ? No ?
Falling behind and pathetic .
And I’ll to bed at noon
Betsy – Hi. Every loss is a bad one, where is there a “good” loss? This ain’t high school, after all. And, as CB said, you score 5, you should win. This one is definitely on AJ.
And lest you think other teams are so hot – Tampa got shutout, 4-0, by Baltimore. They’ve had a pretty weak W-L this month, also. For whatever that’s worth. Personally, I really don’t think it will mean much of anything for the Yanks or Tampa once the playoffs start.
It’s a new season in October.
As bad as Javy has been, at least he gives his best effort.
I don’t know why anyone even cares about the offense tonight.
No matter how good you are, climbing out of a 7 run hole rarely happens.
AJ is no longer unpredictable, though.
Cashman needs to pull AJ aside at the end of the year and tell him that if he wants to be in the rotation next year, he has to reinvent himself. No more playing around and taking his hollow words as the Gospel.
There is no way they can endure another season even close to this. At least guys like Dustin Mosely are mediocre, 4-5 run pitchers that give us a chance.
If Girardi and co. pitch CC tomorrow they have absolutely no idea what they are doing. The Twins are a better matchup and right now the most important thing is getting the offense rested and making sure CC is pitching on regular rest for the play offs. They should do whatever CC is more comfortable with and that shouldn’t change because AJ didn’t compete tonight. It’s 100% the wrong move and I hope they don’t do it.
Girardi and Cashman should have a meeting and then tell Burnett he’s done for the year. Enough is enough. This guy is not in a fit mental or physical condition to pitch for our New York Yankees again until he gets his life straightened out. I’d rather lose with Nova or Moseley on the mound than see this pathetic specimen of a man don a New York uniform again.
Texas losing with CJ Wilson to the M’s. Minny losing with Slowey to KC. Yanks and Rays lose.
AL crown supremacy at its best.
Postseason rotation:
CC, Hughes, Pettitte, Nova?
AJ is turning into Carlos Zambrano.
Someone said in an earlier thread that Burnett was going through a very difficult divorce. I don’t know whether or not that’s true but it certainly would explain his inordinately bad season this year.
Doreen:
“AJ is no longer unpredictable, though.”
Yes, at least there’s that.
For once, I would like to hear Girardi be honest about AJ in the postgame. He doesn’t deserve any supportive words.
RSM September 27th, 2010 at 10:08 pm
Postseason rotation:
CC, Hughes, Pettitte, Nova?
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Aye.
And the aye’s have it.
Well, rather than flog AJ anymore, I think I’m calling it a night.
Good night, all. Tomorrow is another day.
Poor AJ. He’s trying his best out there, just not even remotely close to getting it done.
Maybe next year will be better for him.
Getting hit is one thing…it happens. Failing to compete and just throwing fastballs down the middle is another and that’s what AJ did tonight….he just totally lost focus and started grooving every pitch.
Hopefully the Yankees have seen enough of this to finally consider other postseason options.
Great now CC is going to lose to the rookie because the lineup won’t do a damn.
Joe – hey, how are you?
Oh, I know that the Rays are no juggernaut; if they were, given how badly we’ve played, they’d be about 5 in front.
I agree this loss is on AJ – completely. My point is that the offense is going to have to pick it up and actually stop wasting precious opportunities in the playoffs. How many chances are they going to get against these pitchers? NOt that many. You still have to score ……..I also agree the post-season is a new season, but I find it hard to believe this team can just turn it on and off. We’ll see.
The divorce would explain the weight loss as well. Broken relationships lead to overeating in some people and loss of appetite in others. I believe AJ is reeling from a bad marriage or a broken relationship. Maybe the wife was cheating on him and the black eye is from AJ confronting her boy toy?
hmm
I will be stunned if he gets supportive words, at least in the sense of the way he pitched. He isn’t someone who believes in drawing and quartering his players publicly, despite the fans’ desire for blood. He realizes that they are out there trying. His job is to decide what to do when their attempts fall so flat that they jeopardize the team’s chances of winning in the postseason.
This isn’t kid’s play at this point.
Girardi better not have anything even close to positive to say about AJ. I know managers always have bs comments but AJ deserves nothing but negative stuff tonight. His act is old and he completely give up on the team tonight. If this team wasn’t going to play offs I wouldn’t be surprised if one of the veterans called him out on it. There is no way that he should take the mound in the play offs until it’s the 2nd round and they have to.
Joe from Long Island:
“Well, rather than flog AJ anymore, I think I’m calling it a night.”
Capital idea! Me too.
AJ Burnett really sucks
I hate, HATE to say that AJ or anyone didn’t compete, so I wont. He’s just awful…………that’s all there is to it. I’m not willing to take it to the next level.
I don’t like Phil as the #2 – I think regardless of who they play he should be the #3.
“Maybe the wife was cheating on him and the black eye is from AJ confronting her boy toy?”
Definitely a scenario that crossed my mind when I read that about a potential divorce situation.
AJ should definitely be off the 1st round playoff roster as he offers absolutely nothing-unless you need him to come in and hit a batter! Hopefully he’ll be traded in the offseason, but the Yankees will probably have to absorb another bad contract in return.
this was the 10th time this season A. J. has given up 6+ earned runs in a start.
reading through his game log is not for the faint of heart.
I really hope that the post season rotation is CC, Phil and Andy. If AJ is part of the rotation it should be as the #4 starter.
“Great now CC is going to lose to the rookie because the lineup won’t do a damn.”
Oh I forgot we’re facing Doug Drebeck tomorrow, for the first time…. fun
And there is no way CC should be starting tomorrow. They are screwing up their postseason rotation and CC doesn’t get his much-needed rest.
Chad is a nice guy, in describing AJ as the ‘wildly unpredictable’ AJ. He is predictably wild to me.
I refuse to speculate on AJ’s personal life – it’s none of my business and we have absolutely zero facts to go on. I’m prefer to stick to what’s going on on the field – and he’s awful
CC is starting tomorrow. Kim Jones asks the most stupid questions. Girardi getting asked a lot of AJ questions, as it should be. He definitely keeps saying AJ didn’t have anything tonight.
Kyle Drabeck………….Doug is his father
Does Drebeck have a change up? If he does, watch out.
OK, one last thing:
If AJ has come clean to his teammates and skipper, they will keep trying to stand by him, even though his performance isn’t acceptable. Girardi will not kick a guy when he’s down.
Girardi just said that CC is pitching tomorrow. That is a giant, giant mistake and it will cost them in the play offs. CC doesn’t pitch good on extra rest and I guarantee it will hurt him. Girardi and co. are stupid if they don’t think the Yanks will win another game this week or Boston won’t lose a game.
“Maybe the wife was cheating on him and the black eye is from AJ confronting her boy toy?”
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now does AJ’s wife look like the type who may cheat? Wait nevermind, don’t answer that
Giradi trying his hardest to not throw AJ under the bus.
clowns here is the facts. girardi is full of crap. aj is a total disaster. he is like scott linebrink for chicago but worse.
ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW IS JORGE CHECK SWUNG ON A 0 AND 3 PITCH 2 OUTS IN THE 8TH AND GROUNDED TO FIRST.
that is totally inexcusable under any circumstances.
jorge is toast.. he cannot catch any more.
jeter may be toast.
pitching aj in the playoffs just shows you how bad there rotation is.. he is the worst starter on a good yankee team in 40 years.LOOK AT THE #’s IT IS TRUE.
also can they score without hitting a homer.
look at the 8th. kearns k’d on ball 4. jorge brain lock stupidity. was jorge hitting a 2 run homer with no one on base????????????
AJ’s wife cheated on him with BRYAN BULLINGTON, the Royals’ pitcher who shut out the Yankees in August for his first ever big league win. Bullington’s a real man.
My bold prediction of the night. AJ coming out of the pen, will win a huge game this post-season. His FB will hit 96, his CB will bulckle knees.
“The greatness comes not when things go always good for you. But the greatness comes when you’re really tested, when you take some knocks, some disappointments, when sadness comes. Because only if you’ve been in the deepest valley can you ever know how magnificent it is to be on the highest mountain”
Nixon
( I feel like I just chummed the water )
Goodnight all.
If they don’t start CC tomorrow… then someone like Vazquez will start and probably get killed…. then they need Andy who looked awful on Fri to win in order not to get swept.
As we saw tonight, don’t expect the Chi Sox to do us any favors… we need to win 1 game.
I can understand why they are starting CC tomorrow… even if it means they can’t give him the rest and line him up on normal rest for the ALDS…. they need to win games.
AJ’s wife was a stripper. They are an unstable flock. I’ve dated a couple for…not very long.
can you imagine if they had lost last night – AJ may be a bullpen guy in playoffs – putting him out on the mound is a crapshoot
“I really hope that the post season rotation is CC, Phil and Andy. If AJ is part of the rotation it should be as the #4 starter.”
Fran, I wondered if we could go with a 3-man rotation or if we need a 4th cobble together a starter by giving innings to Nova/Moseley/Javy if necessary. AJ could fool all of us and appear in the postseason and be lights out but it’s certainly understandable to want him sidelined at this point.
“I refuse to speculate on AJ’s personal life – it’s none of my business and we have absolutely zero facts to go on. I’m prefer to stick to what’s going on on the field – and he’s awful”
Betsy, I think it’s more trying to understand what could have gone so horribly wrong that he lost so many games this season. At least something like that could help explain it.
White Sox still have two more innings to try and come back from a 5-1 deficit, and allow CC to rest tomorrow.
Trisha, you guys can do it – I think it’s just unfounded gossip.l
CC has said several times that he would prefer to start the playoffs on regular rest but if he’s pitching tomorrow then I’ll assume they have talked with him and made an informed decision based on what they feel is best.
I really don’t understand why the Yanks are messing up their chances for game 1 of the play offs for tomorrow’s game? It doesn’t make any sense.
“Kim Jones asks the most stupid questions.”
She asks rhetorical questions and we wonder why the YES Postgame is a cliche-fest.
It is never more evident than when she interviews CC and CC looks like he doesn’t even know how to answer and gives short responses.
There is no reason to make it personal with AJ or speculate on his personal life.
It is juvenile and unnecessary.
Go to Perez Hilton’s webpage or something if you want to post that crap.
I’m really not looking forward to three more years of this
AJ just dissed Kim.
Listening to AJ’s postgame, awww. He feels terrible. He said everything he threw was smashed. He said “he’s not going to quit, he’s going to show up tomorrow and he’s continue to work”
“AJ’s wife was a stripper.”
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Bret: Freal. Didn’t know. Yet i believe you
A few females have told me, you ‘can’t turn a Ho into a housewife’. As much as i don’t wish to believe this, it seems the evidence indicates otherwise
Well…he just looks like he’s suffering from a severe case of insomnia coupled with clinical depression. I’ve been there, had friends who’ve been there looking like the walking dead. It’s not because his ERA.
AJ didnt dis Kim. Kim was trying to be kind with her words, and he recognized that and just said the truth. JMO
I’m not watching the post-game; what did he say?
more bs on the postgame show. these guys are in dreamland.
now you know why cashman wanted to get LEE.
AJ is done, he is clueless. maybe he needs a new personal catcher………………
Whoever beat AJ up twice in the month should do it again. If it was a teammate more power to them. AJ is a negative on this team and I find it hard to believe that he will be on this team for 3 more years.
“AJ’s wife was a stripper. They are an unstable flock. I’ve dated a couple for…not very long.”
lol
I have too. I just can’t phantom someone marrying them. Especially someone rich and famous like Burnett who could do much better. Eek. Different strokes though…
Why does YES still hire Kim?
Bret
What good does psychologizing about someone you’ve never met, do?
I don’t think any of us are qualified to make medical evalutations about any player. How about this – AJ has just had an awful year – and leave it at that?
Trisha, because of the ALDS schedule a 3 man rotation would mean CC and the #2 starter would both have to pitch on short rest.
“Trisha, you guys can do it – I think it’s just unfounded gossip.l”
Betsy, I have no investment in the gossip aspect. But I know that outside influences can really mess with a player’s head. When Bernie’s father was sick, he left the game altogether for an extended period of time. Before he did, he was totally lost at the plate. The first season that Beckett floundered badly in the second half, he said the next year that his parents were going through a divorce and it affected his pitching.
I say all the time that these are not robots or wind-up toys and that’s what I get annoyed when “fans” treat they like yesterday’s trash when they’re struggling. I DO look at the human side of the player so that AJ might have something going on on the outside interests me in the respect that it explains things and also might have implications for his ability to pitch hopefully better bext season. The Yankees and the players continue to rally around him so if there is something going on it appears that they are aware of it.
It’s only a new low point for AJ until his next start. That will be yet another new low point.
Trisha, because of the ALDS schedule a 3 man rotation would mean CC and the #2 starter would both have to pitch on short rest
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Only CC would.
The 2nd starter would be on full rest for game 5
vinny – that stuff isnt cool. that stuff about women is uncalled for. JMO
Betsy – He said he was horrible, everything he threw got hit. That he wont quit, he will continue working hard and wont allow this to keep him down.
One more week, they are out of playoff.
Kim: I”m not used to seeing you get hit that hard.
AJ: You should probably look at my career more then.
I mean, he’s right, but that’s a diss.
Burnett IS married to a stripper though…. it’s not gossip…
#Rich in NJ September 27th, 2010 at 10:27 pm
Kim: I?m not used to seeing you get hit that hard.
AJ: You should probably look at my career more then.
I mean, he?s right, but that?s a diss.
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He’s actually kinda saying that he’s s—-d a lot throughout his career.
For once, I would like to hear Girardi be honest about AJ in the postgame. He doesn’t deserve any supportive words.
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Paging Ozzie Guillen… Paging Ozzie Guillen!
A rookie is starting tomorrow that they have never seen before. We know what that means for the offense…more strikeouts and then Cecil on Sunday who they haven’t touched all season. Fun times for this team right now.
“I refuse to speculate on AJ’s personal life – it’s none of my business and we have absolutely zero facts to go on. I’m prefer to stick to what’s going on on the field – and he’s awful”
Well said, Betsy.
And AJ said he’ll be back in 5 days. Help.
“Well…he just looks like he’s suffering from a severe case of insomnia coupled with clinical depression. I’ve been there, had friends who’ve been there looking like the walking dead. It’s not because his ERA.”
I’ve seen it too Bret. I agree he doesn’t look like he’s entirely healthy.
“vinny – that stuff isnt cool. that stuff about women is uncalled for. JMO”
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CR9: was posting what women themselves have told me. Not my own belief
Gossip can be true. There is nothing in the definition that says it must be false.
This is a baseball forum. Not TMZ.
Rich in NJ,
It makes me feel better to know that it’s not a physical thing (although it’s becoming one).
It’s emotional wreckage.
A physically damaged arm is more permanent.
He’ll get over the drama in time.
If that’s the case, it makes me more hopeful to think that way.
I’m not trying to pry or get overly personal with the guy. I feel bad. My best friend was suicidal after a breakup and his mom rushed him to ER. He dropped from 175 to 125 and he’s 5′ 9”. I had to put that boy back on his feet. We nearly lost him.
Just know that there’s sympathy there when I look at AJ and see my friend.
So what? I don’t care if his wife is a stripper- or used to be.
That doesn’t sound like a diss, Rich – that sounds like a guy who’s unhappy with himself.
“That he wont quit, he will continue working hard and wont allow this to keep him down.”
You have to give him some credit there I’d say.
AJ’s words are completely hollow. Always have been.
Just don’t start him in the playoffs
What does that mean, anyway? She’s a bad person? She and AJ have 3 beautiful kids – I sure has hell hope they aren’t going through a divorce. Anyway, that’s his business, not mine.
Anyone still willing to defend this pile of crap? Burnett was a mistake from day 1, and I called it back in 2008 when they signed him.
I’m not saying his words aren’t hollow, just that I don’t think based on what I’ve seen that AJ was dissing Kim.
vinny – lol, i missed that. oh well, you can say anything you want anyways, I know I sure do. I just think it’s a little harsh to generalize all strippers, ya know?
There’s only one thing in life that should be generalized, and that’s Massachusetts inhabitants and Bostonians/Boston fans! They’re all dirtpiles
“I’m not trying to pry or get overly personal with the guy. I feel bad. My best friend was suicidal after a breakup and his mom rushed him to ER. He dropped from 175 to 125 and he’s 5? 9”. I had to put that boy back on his feet. We nearly lost him.
Just know that there’s sympathy there when I look at AJ and see my friend.”"
Good for you Bret. I feel the same way. Try to have some understanding IF someone is going through personal pain. And if they are, it can explain a lot of things.
“Gossip can be true. ”
It can also be slander and libel.
Im still willing to defend AJ. No matter what, he’s a New York Yankee and we wouldnt have won last year without him. He goes out there and he tries his hardest – contrary to the belief of some – and he just isnt succeeding.
You want to insult a (former) Yankee, insult scumpile Mark Bellhorn.
AJ wasn’t dissing Kim. He was dissing himself.
“Anyone still willing to defend this pile of crap? ”
Yeah I’ll defend him. As long as he’s in pinstripes I’ll defend him. And he isn’t a pile of crap. He’s a baseball player who is having some really bad struggles.
At this point, they have to save AJ from himself.
It is not his fault if Cash/Joe start him in the postseason when he has been the worst pitcher in baseball over his past 25 starts.
He sucks. If the org. can’t see that, then you seriously have to question their player evaluation moving forward, or their priorities (his ego over winning)
Yeah , ease up on the stripper talks. There are other forums for that. Consider the company that are here and those that might be reading, it’s best to be left it alone. JMO
My rabbi once gave a sermon where he compared gossip to taking a down pillow and ripping it up in the street. No matter how hard you try, you can’t get all those feathers back – it’s impossible. I don’t think gossip is a particuarly pleasant word- it’s got bad connotations. In this case, it’s no one’s business what AJ’s personal life is like and there still is not drop of proof that anything is wrong.
LGY,
Thanks for the correction. I forgot about the off day after Game 4.
“Only CC would.
The 2nd starter would be on full rest for game 5″
Hmmm.
The point being, once you say something about someone, it can’t be taken back.
AJ’s problems on the mound are simply that – on the mound. He’s a pitcher having a dreadful year, but these things happen – he’s not the first nor will he be the last to have an awful year.
Now it’s up to the Yankees to make a cold, calculating decision. Cash said contracts don’t matter – well if he pitches AJ or pitches him ahead of Phil, then he’s a liar and I don’t think Cash is a liar.
There is a drop of proof – the black eye.
That is not proof of anything; you have no clue how that happened. It’s all just pure speculation.
Nova/Vazquez will have to be the 4th starter.
There’s no way it’s Burnett and no way Pettitte or Hughes pitch on three days rest. In fact, I would be irrate if one of them did.
Given Pettitte’s injury layoff and age, he doesn’t have the stamina to pitch on short rest.
Given Hughes’ age and workload, it would be moronic and careless for him to ever pitch on three days rest.
“Gossip can be true. ”
It can also be slander and libel.
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Not if it’s true.
CR9 you dumbass what the hell does Mark Bellhorn have to do with anything?
“In this case, it’s no one’s business what AJ’s personal life is like and there still is not drop of proof that anything is wrong.”
Betsy, let’s put it this way then. We heard that he may be going through personal pain in his life. If it’s the case it could help to explain his pitching. I don’t need glossies or “proof” in order for me to give someone the benefit of the doubt. This has nothing whatsoever to do with gossip.
John Smoltz needed a sports psychologist early on to help him focus. I’m sure that the Yankees would have taken care of their multimillion dollar investment in AJ if this was a psychological problem, and dealt with it much earlier, even if it meant putting him on the DL.
Furthermore, anyone calling AJ a pile of crap is the real pile of crap.
The black eye is definitely proof that something is wrong and that there is conflict OFF the mound.
I see I haven’t missed much in the past 10 days or so….October should be a real joy here….Yanks can go 11-0 and still get drilled by 25 % of the LoHuders……Tricia, I’m always amazed with the go team go spirit, even when you know you’re going to get ragged on…….Can’t imagine the defending Champs going with 2 rooks in their starting rotation in the upcoming weeks……AJ is essential
Carl – No need to call me names. Mark Bellhorn is a primary reason why we lost in 2004. He was a steroid enhanced freak. Insult that (former) Yankee, and not AJ Burnett – a guy that helped us win the World Series last year. Mark Bellhorn never helped us do anything.
Maybe they can still get lefty Ted Lilly and find a way to put him on the post season roster.
“Not if it’s true.”
I wasn’t going to bother to get into the legalities or the differentiations (slander per se, etc.)
AJ had a black and blue ear a start or 2 before he had a black eye. So that is 2 times that something happened not just one “accident”.
If AJ is going through personal problems, I hope it all works out for him. I still don’t want him pitching in the playoffs.
Pat M.-
“AJ is essential”
Respectfully, then we are in a lot of trouble.
They can always fall back on Swisher to take the ball in game 4.
I believe his ERA for the Yankees is 0.00.
This is not TMZ. Stop speculating about AJ’s personal life.
Trish, this has nothing to do with giving him the benefit of the doubt…………As I said, you guys have the right to gossip, but I don’t think it’s right.
No way Phil ever pitches on 3 days rest.
“Maybe they can still get lefty Ted Lilly and find a way to put him on the post season roster. ”
Don’t think we want to be doing that! He just lost 4 in a row for the Dodgers. Probably a cumulative thing. Every time he loses he worries that Torre’s going to trash him in a book and so it messes with his head, and, well you can see the progression!
MTU…It’s looking real bleak at this time…..
Pat M, there is plenty of reason to be concerned about this team………..and as much as I respect you, the only team AJ is essential to is the opposing team.
Nova would not be ideal, by any means, but anyone other than AJ is the way to go. Pitch Mosely if you have to……….though I realize he’d likely be brutal as well.
Captain Clutch September 27th, 2010 at 10:44 pm
AJ had a black and blue ear a start or 2 before he had a black eye. So that is 2 times that something happened not just one “accident”.
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Maybe AJ just really sucks at getting out of the way of his punching bag after he hits it…
It’s all mechanical issues with AJ.
It’s about body positioning and footwork.
He bunches his heavy bag and then just stands there and goes.
DUUUHHHHHHHHHHHHH
That gives him bruises and black eyes.
So there you have it.
“As I said, you guys have the right to gossip, but I don’t think it’s right. ”
NOBODY IS GOSSIPPING BETSY!
Anyway, I hope that if he has any personal pain that he gets past it successfully.
Trisha,
Maybe Lilly is afraid to pitch well for the Dodgers.
If he pitches well, then Torre will use him every day and blow out his arm.
Pat M.-
I have a different take.
Once the playoffs begin anything can happen.
We go with CC, AP, and YMH. I would not even use AJ. Javy/Nova, etc. Just no AJ.
# CR9 September 27th, 2010 at 10:41 pm
Carl – No need to call me names. Mark Bellhorn is a primary reason why we lost in 2004. He was a steroid enhanced freak. Insult that (former) Yankee, and not AJ Burnett – a guy that helped us win the World Series last year. Mark Bellhorn never helped us do anything.
Man would you shut the hell up? No one gives a damn about him or 2004. They had just as many roids freaks as us.
Your obsession with the Red Sox is pathetic. Mark Bellhorn touch you as a child?
AJ is essential to what? Going home early?
The Yankees should come up with a phantom back injury for AJ. Send the guy home and tell him to show up for spring training with his head screwed on correctly. He is a mess right now. Putting him out there in a postseason situation would be really stupid. He has zero command with his fastball. You could have found a decent college pitcher who would have had a better chance against the jays tonight.
Conceivably they wouldn’t need a 4th starter until Game 4 of the ALCS if CC pitches game 4 of the ALDS on 1 day-short rest.
But who is that pitcher?
YES YOU ARE – and stop yelling at me, Trisha – I’m not a 5 year old.
Betsy, well then you better start hoping that he turns this around, because if not, they’ll be flying by the seat of their pants so to speak
Carl – either you’re an imposter, or you’re a relative of Mark Bellhorn. In the case of the latter, I apologize for insulting a family member of yours.
My point is – people shouldnt insult AJ. AJ helped us win last year, he’s struggling mightily this year. He doesnt deserve to get throw under the bus.
Pick another useless NY Yankee or former Yankee and insult him. Someone like…..Chris Hammond
“Trisha,
Maybe Lilly is afraid to pitch well for the Dodgers.
If he pitches well, then Torre will use him every day and blow out his arm.”
Hey RSM, let’s call a truce.
Trisha-
Lilly must have gotten something in writing from Torre that he wouldn’t be mentioned in his new book”The Dodger Years.” He’s pitching a 4 hitter thru seven innings and leads Colorado 2-1.
Pat M, I don’t expect him to be removed from the rotation either, so all I can hope for at this point is that the Yankees have enough sense to make him the #4 starter. They’d better hope that CC isn’t toast, that Andy is not rusty, that Phil isn’t too fatigued and that………..well, no point in hoping for anything re: AJ anymore.
“NOBODY IS GOSSIPPING BETSY!”
Seriously?
Something is obviously going on with AJ but whatever it is doesn’t matter. They can’t expect anything out of him in the play offs and that is the problem. Last year he had over a 5 era in the post season and also had 2 starts where he gave up 5 runs early in the game. They have to plan without him because at this point he is useless.
I blame the dirtpile Bill Mueller more than Bellhorn
Betsy – I know Burnett has been pitiful this year, but dont give up on him. There’s nobody that wants to succeed more than AJ (I know, i hate cliche too). And maybe, he’s just saving his success for the most important time – the postseason
ET – Without a doubt, Bill Mueller was a bum bum bum bum bum. A steroid freak that, once he left the Sox for the Dodgers, his career was all of a sudden over due to injury.
What’s all this nonsense about AJ’s “personal problems” leading to his crappy pitching? In any other situation, an employee who can’t do the job because of “personal problems” would take a leave to deal with them if they interfered with his or her ability to perform his or her job. They wouldn’t show up to work, constantly screw up, and jeopardize their employee’s business.
If AJ is experiencing “personal problems”, then send him home until they’re resolved.
“YES YOU ARE – and stop yelling at me, Trisha – I’m not a 5 year old.”
Then stop acting like one. And don’t accuse me of gossipping because that’s an asinine accusation. It isn’t like divorce is the same as having a venereal disease! It was mentioned here and we discussed the possibility in context of him having pitching difficulties.
I will say again. Any difficulties in someone’s personal life can go a long way in explaining other things going wrong in the person’s life.
I talked about nothing except the possibility that he has some outside problem.
Unless you are just so down on him that you don’t want there to be any other explanation.
Anyway, I’m done with that topic.
Gossip : rumor or talk of a personal, sensational, or intimate nature.
Nothing like that going on here!
Royals are beating minny 10-8 in the 8th. They are going to have a big say in who gets HFA.
IMO AJ Burnett should not go near a PS mound.
“Seriously?
Yeah, seriously.
“Royals are beating minny 10-8 in the 8th. They are going to have a big say in who gets HFA.”
Absolutely. Second highest BA and second highest number of hits in the majors.
CR, AJ is a personal favorite of mine as he’s a really good guy – so I don’t criticize him lightly. It bothers me to have to be this hard on him, but he deserves it……..unfortunately. Maybe he’ll be better next year, but I think he’s toast for this year.
And we should put the WC question to bed tomorrow.
I’m acting like a child? Really? Ok, I’m done with this conversation.
How can anyone trust AJ in the playoffs? He has been awful and I don’t want him anywhere near the mound in an important game.
Damn. I go away for an hour and a half to have dinner and I come back to see Trisha engaged in another bar room brawl. It seems to be the common thread in this thread! lol I’m sure she thinks it’s “their” fault.
I hope so, MTU but CC hasn’t been sharp (would have loved to have gotten him some rest) and Drabek is a talented newcomer…………….
Yeah, no such thing as gossip on blogs or anything.
Blogs should read like encyclopedias.
Nothing but straight cold facts, like this one.
“RED SOX SUCK”
BloggingBombers
Girardi confirmed that Sabathia will start Tuesday night. Colossal mistake, in my opinion.
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Whether they win tomorrow or not it’s a big gamble and not necessary. Pitching Hughes yesterday was necessary this isn’t. If they win your in the play offs but now screwed for game 1 and if they lose they are back to where they started and still messed up their ace for game one. I don’t get it but whatever…..
“Nothing like that going on here!”
You’re right. There isnt. Unless I missed posts where there is titillating or salacious discussion about the details of an alleged divorce, all I saw was a relating of a potential divorce to the possibility of pitching difficulties. That is hardly gossip.
Betsy-
It ends tomorrow. Enough BS. It happens. No more crap.
Ill 100 up your Red Sox Suck fact Bret….
Red Sox are synonymous with criminals!!!
Betsy is the one acting like the 5 year old here.
Right…
I wanna have one calzone now
Despite how bad Burnett has been, I still believe he is capable of pitching a good game. Unfortunately, there is really no way of predicting it.
Girardi could keep him on a short leash, but the problem is that when things go bad for him, they go bad quickly. We saw that tonight.
If it was my call… I’d go with CC, Hughes, Pettitte, Nova (on a short leash) in the post-season.
That being said, it’s not my call, and I think Joe will use AJ. I just hope it’s not in game 2.
I’ve acted like a 5 year old at times, but tonight is not one of them, lol.
Feinsand’s opinions hold as much water as a glass without a bottom. It’s a colossal mistake reading any of these guys, lol
“Damn. I go away for an hour and a half to have dinner and I come back to see Trisha engaged in another bar room brawl. It seems to be the common thread in this thread! lol I’m sure she thinks it’s “their” fault.”
Yeah “lol” always the mark of someone with high intelligence and a real thinker. Speaking of which, in typical fashion, don’t bother knowing context or facts, just jump right to conclusions – you know, they way you do when you start to whimper when the bad Yankees don’t hit da bawl or you know they give up wuns.
Just suck on that cyberbinky and everything will be fine.
What is the difference between a calzone and a stromboli?
Seriously.
If you don’t know what’s going on in AJ’s life, stop gossiping about it.
Since the beginning of August, in 10 starts, Tin Man Burnett is 1-7 with a 6.98 era. How can this gutless loser possibly start a postseason game????
“Cashman needs to pull AJ aside at the end of the year and tell him that if he wants to be in the rotation next year, he has to reinvent himself. No more playing around and taking his hollow words as the Gospel.
There is no way they can endure another season even close to this. At least guys like Dustin Mosely are mediocre, 4-5 run pitchers that give us a chance.”
I wish. He’ll be guaranteed a spot next year in the rotation even if he sucks. But unless he reinvents himself or finds that missing tick off his FB, he is toast as far as an effective starter is concerned. His stuff is pedestrian now. He no longer has “nasty” stuff.
“I’ve acted like a 5 year old at times, but tonight is not one of them, lol.”
And there was no intent of gossip in my discussion with Bret on why outside influences could affect AJ’s pitching. It doesn’t mean I’m jonesing to see him in the postseason, just that I could understand his off season coming from outside problems.
“What is the difference between a calzone and a stromboli?”
Hmmm.
“What is the difference between a calzone and a stromboli?
Seriously.”
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Better question.
What is the difference between gossiping and what trisha is doing in this thread?
Seriously.
LGY, I don’t know – if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it’s a duck.
Then she’s throwing out insults…………..
What a trip this Trish is…..wow. I have never seen anything like her on a sports blog. Surreal.
from twitter
DAVIDprice14
Had a chance to clinch a post season spot tonight with about 10,000 fans in the stands….embarrassing
Trisha – Dont get into it. Just let it go. You didnt do anything wrong. It’s perfectly reasonable that there might be something wrong in AJ’s personal life. It’s also perfectly reasonable for others to think it’s gossip and not want to be involved in it.
Have a good night all. We’ll clinch tomorrow….I hope. I did something wrong today that cost us the game. I did many things – bad luck wise – during our recent horrible stretch.
Im just getting my rest. When the postseason rolls around, Ill be on my game superstition wise.
I think they’re one in the same masquerading as two items added to a menu at an Italian restaurant instead of one.
“If AJ is experiencing “personal problems”, then send him home until they’re resolved.”
Actually a Sux player removed himself from the game in the middle of the season because of an outside situation and said he was just unable to play. I don’t know if a team would actually send someone home.
Forget the calzones and strombolis…get a PANZEROTTI!!!
I think Stromboli is slightly more expensive Bret.
” It’s perfectly reasonable that there might be something wrong in AJ’s personal life”
Why?
MANICOTTI
The crust is wrapped around the insides multiple times with a stromboli. You get more crust with each bite. They are also usually smaller.
A calzone is just filled.
I think.
It has been said on here time and time again, that the regular season doesn’t matter once the PS starts. So, on that I’ll hope that AJ surprises later on. I think he’s done for this (regular) season. But, I won’t write him off (not that what I think matters) until after what I see happens next season.
Both are pizza dough with filling but tradtionally, Stromboli is rolled like a jellyroll and calzone is folded over like a tart.
Not to add fuel to the gossip fire, but it’s probably safe to assume that it was not Pedrioa that gave AJ the black eye. Just deductive reasoning.
Much better explanation from pat
I’m hungry now though.
How about a Zeppoli? Yum…………………better tasting than a zeppelin. I had a funnel cake at my nephew’s birthday party – delish!
Hi KPB!
Here’s the gig kids. Since I know my itent was not to “gossip” your accusations otherwise have no affect on me whatsoever. You know, sticks and stones? So why don’t you just continue to sit like the sanhedrin and discuss me. I’m sure that makes you feel almighty.
Well I’ll tell you one thing. If AJ happens to go out on Sat. and pitches a gem that’ll go a long way in battling those mound demons.
Because he just absolutely sucks at Fenway. Even when he’s pitching good he sucks there. It’s like his Waterloo.
RMS – Why? Because everyone, EVERYONE has personal issues. Even Derek Jeter probably has personal issues. All people deal with personal issues differently.
“Trisha – Dont get into it. Just let it go. You didnt do anything wrong.”
Thanks CR9. I know I didn’t do anything wrong. The usual lohud tempest in a teapot.
Have a good night.
Betsy
Hello, I hope your BD went well and that your wish came true.
Tyler Kepner is a complete airhead now:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09.....epner.html
Hughes, despite a solid effort on short notice Sunday night, has a 5.61 earned run average in his last six starts and has not reached seven innings since before the All-Star break.
Does Hughes get a start, or should Girardi add him to the setup mix with Dave Robertson, Joba Chamberlain and Kerry Wood?
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Who is he kidding? gee Kep, you think Phil was solid last night?
Seriously, a panzerotti is a calzone that’s fried rather than baked.
Much better.
Get two, take a Lipitor and thank me later.
KPB, I had a great birthday, but no – my wish did not come true, lol. Oh well !
pat,
A folded tart?
Maybe this one of those soda vs. pop or sneaker vs. tennis shoe scenarios?
I just googled panzerotti.
Just looks like an empanada to me
Here’s what I think.
AJ was looking the mirror one day, and he said to himself “You know what ? You suck.”
And then, all of a sudden, just like in the movie “Fight Club”.
He punched himself in the eye. Repeatedly.
And then he said, see “Now I feel better. You deserved that. ”
Good night everyone. After tomorrow let’s hope we’re PS bound.
trisha
I agree that outside circumstances can influence on field in a great way. That’s why I stated earlier I’ll wait until next year before I decide.
Millar-Mueller-Bellhorn
The Trifecta
I’m telling you. It’s a sham.
If AJ happens to go out on Sat. and pitches a gem
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unlikely, I see a pitcher who has little command of his above average fb getting hammer by a good fastball hitting and relative patient RS team. His second offering , the slurve is effectively nullified as an out pitch because 1. he can’t command his fb. 2. He rarely throw that for a strike due to the nature of that pitch.
Conclusion, I think AJ will get hammer.
“I agree that outside circumstances can influence on field in a great way. That’s why I stated earlier I’ll wait until next year before I decide.”
Thanks, and that was really my point also. There is no way to say unequivocally that AJ can no longer pitch if there are other things that have gone into it. Thanks for understanding that.
Costanza was always having to get the calzones for GMS III
Yank 97 – LOL! That whole team was despicable. Nixon, Kapler, Reese, Timlin, Foulke. All dirty cheats.
Or Jim Carrey in Liar Liar.
“WHAT are you DOING?”
“What’s it look like I’m doing? I’m kicking my ASS.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09.....38;emc=rss
Burnett has pitched well against Minnesota and Texas, their two potential first-round opponents, going 2-0 with a 2.12 earned run average in five starts. Unlike Burnett, Hughes could be valuable working out of the bullpen. But the sight of Burnett starting a playoff game ahead of Hughes might cause a fan base to revolt.
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Sort of, lol
Incidently, you people are from NY and really don’t know that a Calzone is made with Pizza dough and a Stromboli is made with bread dough?
Sheesh!
I still recommend panzerotti.
Betsy
Sorry it didn’t happen, but there’s always next year. Also, it might have helped to use the air horn or I could send my mom to take you to dinner next year.
“Who is he kidding? gee Kep, you think Phil was solid last night?”
Little better than solid, but less than great. 105 is a lot of pitches to get just 18 outs.
AJ can physically pitch at this point. It’ s just on most night , he is effectively one pitch pitcher with no command. Personal problems aside, that’s the baseball side of issue with him I can see.
Tin Man has now allowed at least six runs in a game a Major League-leading 10 times. He’s a QUITTER..
“Because everyone, EVERYONE has personal issues”
Again, people were gossiping about AJ’s “personal” issues, (divorce) without knowing if it was true or not.
And yelling is rude.
trisha
Your welcome.
incidently, you people are from NY and really don’t know that a Calzone is made with Pizza dough and a Stromboli is made with bread dough?
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I have the slightest clue. I normally order Pizza and a connoli or fruit tarts in my local Europan.
When I go to a italian restaurant , I don’t order Calzone or Stromboli.
Italian sham.
Bill, sorry, I disagree. I don’t care how many pitches he threw…………..
KPB, it’s not like that, lol. I had a horse running in a race that I was rooting for (I don’t own her, just root for her) and she didn’t win – that was what I used my wish on, lol
“A folded tart?”
Take a circle of dough, fold over to a half moon shape, seal the edges and crimp to hold in filling. TADA! A tart.
Not sure how typing can be construed as yelling. Do my letters have a voice???
The capital letters are meant for emphasis. Ill give you an example:
Red Sox are worthless despicable CRIMINALS!
Looks like we are back to baseball?
Good, I was getting hungry discussing italian food.
PS rotation should be CC, Hughes, Pettitte, Nova.
PS rotation will be CC, AJ, Pettitte, Hughes.
Who wastes their time with stromboli anyway?
Just get pizza.
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RSM,
You spelled panzerotti wrong. It’s e-m-p-a-n-a-d-a
Sounds like a Chinese dumpling to me, I am pretty sure Marco Polo stole all those ideas from the Asians.
RSM, if that’s the case, I think Yankee fans really will revolt…………….Sadly, I think it’s still a possibility.
Luckily I found a slice of thin crust with fresh mozzarella and garlic in the fridge to eat with all this italian food talk.
Hmm, I’ve had empanadas a few times at this Argentinian place near my home…….yummy!
Young Master Hughes as the Yanks # 3 starter come October isn’t so bad, other than the innings issue….He matches up very well vs. other playoff # 3′s…. Cole Hamel gets the experience nod, but that’s all in my book……Power pitching in October goes a very long way
Betsy
Instead of a horse wisherer ( yeah, I made the word up), you should of had a horse whisperer.
Well, all I can say is that I’m probably more concerned now than before tonights game. A three man rotation won’t be enough anymore. At least in 2009, AJ had a couple of starts where he was just crazy dominant (I.e., Boston series vs Beckett). This year I don’t think he had even one game where he was shutout amazing and was in general more crappy than good. I hope Hughes’ arm holds up because he may be the new third man.
Methinks the Yanks are in deep trouble.
Ooh, I wish I had a 2nd birthday wish – for Bears to beat Packers. Go Da Bears!
LOL KPB…………
I love empanadas too!
Good for you LGY! (I’m jealous)
Betsy, I just believe that Girardi will show loyalty to AJ for last year. I don’t agree with it, but I see that being the way Joe goes. Unfortunately, the Yankees don’t seem to care what I think
Take a circle of dough, fold over to a half moon shape, seal the edges and crimp to hold in filling. TADA! A tart.
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Oh you mean a turnover.
But seriously, to me a tart is sort of like a pie with no top crust.
Pat M, if you’re the Yanks, do you need to be concerned about overdoing it with Phil in terms of workload…………….thinking ahead to next year ………or do they now just go as far with him as he can go?
The most likely scenario to me is AJ starts game 4 with a tight leash. Nova gets in with the first sign of trouble.
I have zero confidence with his repertoire right now , see above said.
Realistically, I don’t think the Yanks will skip him the entire playoff if we go further than ALDS.
RSM, that’s a fireable offense (if he could be fired) IMO…………..You go with your best guys. The thing is, I agree with you – I can easily see Joe doing that.
Pat M – If you watched the Rays series, which Im sure you did, being the huge fan that you are, you saw that your theory that rookies that show up an umpire will not get the benefit of a close call later in the AB disproven. Small sample size, but at least you now know that theory is just a cliche/myth!
Night!
Oh you mean a turnover.
But seriously, to me a tart is sort of like a pie with no top crust.
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I thought a tart was…….. never mind, this is a family friendly blog.
Cash, I agree with that. I do not think AJ will be removed from the rotation………but really, they had to see how Phil reacted to last night’s pressure and AJ to, well…………….tonight’s game.
Jeers,
You are right. A tart generally has a fancy crust with berries and fruit sauce over it that is like a jelly.
KPB….lol
AJ is a lost cause this season, how many terrible outings will it take for some here to get a clue ? He needs to go to Tampa to work out his mechanics.
Girardi needs to use Nova, Moseley, Brackman, Sanchez or Betances to at least keep us in the game and give us a chance at a W. $ 16.5 mil. a year for a guy who is ‘not mentally there’ when he takes the hill.
If his ‘personal issues’ are too much to overcome I will be happy to pull the pin for him on the hand grenade that I will gladly give him.
I thought they said after the regular season the IL didn’t count anymore.
Espn 2 has the house of steinbrenner on.
Its a nice documentary.
Da Bears!
I dunno, at this point, AJ is the fourth starter in a best of 5 contest. Yuck.
“Tyler Kepner is a complete airhead now:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09…..epner.html
Hughes, despite a solid effort on short notice Sunday night, has a 5.61 earned run average in his last six starts and has not reached seven innings since before the All-Star break.
Does Hughes get a start, or should Girardi add him to the setup mix with Dave Robertson, Joba Chamberlain and Kerry Wood?
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Who is he kidding? gee Kep, you think Phil was solid last night?”
Kepner is only making his own version of the same argument you’ve made here hundreds of times, including citing an elevated era of over 5 by looking at small segments of the season.
You yourself only a few days ago were suggesting that Nova would be under serious consideration to start in the rotation in place of Hughes because AJ was definitely going to be starting.
Remember last year Joe was planning to start Nady ahead of Swisher.
Girardi is loyal to guys that have “earned” goodwill with him.
Not saying it’s wrong or right. Just saying it’s one reason why I think he will give AJ the benefit of the doubt in the PS before someone unproven like Nova.
God I just wish I knew what his problem is. Head case? Mechanics? Injury? B.O.?
SAS
How was your trip to AZ? Are you all settled in and keeping cool?
“I thought they said after the regular season the IL didn?t count anymore.”
Cashman said more than once that “All bets are off in the post-season” regarding Hughes innings limits. Whether that has changed, I don’t know.
RSM,
Now that I think about it, I believe the pizza place down the block from me always has panzerotti’s on display.
I just never paid any attention to them, because I always thought it was weird that they would sell empanadas!
I am going to take your recommendation and try one out now
One last stuffed pastry is the relatively unknown pastelillo
Think of a meat stuffed flaky biscuit. Yeah baby!
RSM – the real point is that there are no appealing options. The Yankees got screwed by AJ and Javy having awful years and this is what we are left with. They are just going to have to make do.
CB
If you had your choice, what would be your PS rotation? Would AJ be a part of it, and if so, what round would you start him?
Betsy…I think that a few weeks ago, the club figured they wouldn’t need Phil until the ALCS….I mean, AJ actually had some good outings dating back to his KS start….He’s had more recent starts interupted by rain delays…However, tonight was a disaster of huge proportions
RSM
Thanks. I thought that’s what I had read. I guess we’ll just have to wait and see.
Um, I said I was wrong last night, CB……………….lol
“from twitter
DAVIDprice14
Had a chance to clinch a post season spot tonight with about 10,000 fans in the stands?.embarrassing”
and David Price experiences the wrath of speaking his mind on Twitter with lots of Rays fans scolding him for taking shots at his own fanbase.
DAVIDprice14 If I offended anyone I apologize I did not think it was gonna turn into this…
Pat M, were they going to go with a 3 man rotation? I guess I could have seen that – although that would have been a mistake. AJ’s improved outings weren’t all that good.
KPB,
Our trip was great. Flying is the easy way. We return to NY to host the family for Thanksgiving and then drive out with our dog. That’s a tough trip.
It has been over 100 degrees every day….it is not supposed to be this warm this late in the year. It is hotter than I am happy with, and it isn’t going to get cooler. 105 today I think, but it was warmer in L.A. so I guess I should be happy here.
“If you had your choice, what would be your PS rotation? Would AJ be a part of it, and if so, what round would you start him?”
I wouldn’t start AJ. I’d try to use a three man rotation as much as I possibly could. If I needed a 4th starter I’d probably give Nova a shot with a plan to replace him after 4-5 prior to him getting into trouble.
By the 4th inning of today’s game the yankees had less than a 5% chance of winning the game due to the hole AJ put them in.
You can’t afford to have a game like that in the playoffs and AJ has done that repeatedly to this team this season.
Coming into tonight AJ knew how useful it would have been for the yankees to win this game in order to rest CC tomorrow and still have him set up to front the rotation on regular rest as he prefers. Didn’t mean much to AJ who mailed in another game.
He’s always been a huge risk reward guy but he’s not even a 50/50 coin toss anymore. He’s hardly even rolling dice. The reward just doesn’t come long frequently enough to justify a start from him in the post season.
aj burnett is the worst starting pitcher the yanks have used for an extended period of time in about 15 years or more.
people act like this is a small sample size or that a miracle can happen.
all you need to know about aj is what you see in the postgame chat, he is clueless and thinks what he is doing is no big deal. he needs to be kept off the postseason roster…I AM NOT JOKING. HE CANNOT PITCH IN THE POSTSEASON. THEY NEED TO GO WITH MOESLY/NOVA FOR 3 INNINGS EACH IN GAME 4.
jorge looks like toast and his 8th inning ab is all you need to know about his baseball accumen and deteriorating skills.
if cashman does not get practical and removed in the offeseason the late mantle years will becoming to the bronx.
jorge and jeter look old and bad. mo is 40 so thinking he is invincible is folly….
beware clowns……….
A day later Hughes’ start looks even more impressive.
Imagine this board right now if Moseley pitched yesterday or Hughes pitched poorly and then AJ followed up with this stinker.
David Price is right, but how on earth did he think airing that opinion publicly would go well?
aj is like 1 and 7 in the last 2 months with about a 7 ERA…
GET THAT>>>>>>>>>>>>>
AJ really puts so much pressure on the rest of the team.
He puts incredible pressure on the offense to score when he actually pitches well and puts incredible pressure on the rest of the rotation with the amount of games he just single handedly loses.
LGY, Phil came up huge in a must-win and AJ came up small in a “would be really nice to win”. If that doesn’t mean anything to the Yankees, then they’re crazy.
“Um, I said I was wrong last night, CB……………….lol”
I don’t keep track of your posts so I have no idea.
And I’m not sure how one posts or one day changes months of arguing a similar point to what Kepner is making now. Also not sure why that warrants Kepner being an “air-head” when the idea was supposedly valid only a weak ago.
The “opinion” that Hughes couldn’t be “trusted” and had been a major disappointment, and didn’t have “ace” potential, was perfectly valid and equally as good as any other opinion on Hughes only a few days ago so I’m really not seeing what makes Kepner such a fool now. One game doesn’t change months of arguments.
Take out his first 1/3 of Hughes season and his ERA is still over 5 most likely. One game last night doesn’t change that.
Pressure………..AJ puts the team in a deep hole so early in games that they must feel as if his games are lost causes. Sad.
Ok, CB……….Phil stinks and he’ll never be an ace. Happy? You’re just trying to pick something with me now – pathetic.
SAS
Glad you had a good trip. In the words of Homer,” MMMMMM……Thanksgiving” I can’t wait for all the good food and good times( family time, not the TV show). What kind of dog do you have? And, as far as the weather, we finally had temps in the mid 70s today (sorry wasn’t trying to rub it in).
And by the way, the fact that I had or have concerns about him doesn’t mean that they were invalid.
RSM
September 28th, 2010 at 12:02 am
David Price is right, but how on earth did he think airing that opinion publicly would go well.
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The truth hurts for those crummy fans in Tampa who don’t support a good young winning team with a top notch farm system. Too bad that when they leave for greener pastures (new stadium) then maybe they will realize what they had and have lost.
BTW, I hate the Rays. Luv those Yanks.
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