Postseason tickets on sale Wednesday
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Sep 28, 2010 
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Here’s the release from the Yankees.
Tickets for potential 2010 American League Division Series (ALDS) and American League Championship Series (ALCS) games at Yankee Stadium will go on sale to the public online at yankees.com and via Ticketmaster phone at (877) 469-9849 and Ticketmaster TTY at (800) 943-4327 on Wednesday, September 29 at 10:00 a.m.
Please note that ALDS and ALCS tickets will not be available for purchase at Yankees Clubhouse Shops or through Ticketmaster outlets.
Due to the limited number of tickets available for sale, those purchasing tickets will be limited to two tickets to one game of the ALDS or two tickets to one game of the ALCS, subject to availability. Orders exceeding the assigned ticket limits will be cancelled without contact from Ticketmaster or the New York Yankees.
Tickets purchased via the Internet for Division Series Home Game 1 and Home Game 2 must be purchased utilizing “print at home” technology. There will be no option for Will Call or express shipping.
Fans are encouraged to visit yankees.com/postseason for complete postseason ticket information, including the refund procedure for any unplayed games. World Series ticket information will be made available at a later date.
a little presumptuous are they…?
or is that confident…?
Funny that they’re selling tickets to games that Girardi says he can’t even talk about yet.
I’d prefer 2008 AJ.
Presumptious is a good term at this point.
I would’ve waited.
Who’s pitching today? CC? If it is, let’s get it done.
As for any potential postseason rotation, CC/Hughes/Andy/AJ. Andy is the one I trust most, but who knows if he really has his legs under him? If game 4 is a win or go home game, then CC pitches it.
Thank you, TB for losing. Only one back in the loss column, but we need to ‘win’ 2 more than them this week.
That sucks. You can only choose to get tickets to the ALDS or ALCS. And you can only buy tickets for one game. Probably have to go with the ALDS. Being that the ALCS is a ?
At Target Field they held a random drawing and you only get a chance to purchase tickets if you were selected in that drawing. You then have the right to buy tickets to both ALDS games though. They have not held the drawing for the ALCS yet.
It’s not unusual for sports teams to sell before they clinch, but it would be embarrassing…
Never mind. Anyway at least we have fans who want to watch.
I didn’t read the comments, but chastising the fans sn’t exactly the way to endear yourself to them.
This did strike me as odd……can the Yankees get there first?
I trust CC the most, but he’s not been sharp……..and Andy is still rusty. We’ve definitely got some issues. I don’t think the Yankees will pitch 4 starters in the ALDS even if they name 4. We all know CC is pitching down 2-1 and probably up 2-1 as well.
They’ve already sold a boatload of tix to the season ticket holders so this is just the final step.
And I do think they’ll clinch tonight.
Jeers,
I so hope you are right.
(from previous thread)
comet September 28th, 2010 at 11:00 am
Good morning Upstate Kate and Welcome back Erin. I missed your cheery comments! Good morning MTU.
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Hi comet!! Thank you.
after they clinch playoff spot tonight, what can they do about Mr. AJ?
Should clarify I was referring to Price and Longoria whining about lack of support, no shortage of support of the Yankees.
If they short rest CC, he won’t be available to double clutch during the ALCS – which could hamstring this team – I guess it becomes a judgement call… And his performances on short rest weren’t as good as full rest last postseason (if I recall correctly).
Jason Voorhees September 28th, 2010 at 11:13 am
For those Sesame Street lovers?.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/…..tml?hpt=T2
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That’s amazing-thanks for the link!
The Yankees and Rays have both clinched at least a tie for the wild card.
The Red Sox would have to win every game and either the Rays or Yankees would have to lose every game.
Even then there would be a one game playoff.
If they clinch tonight, according to reports, AJ will make his next start in Boston with Jorge catching.
It sounds like tho, they’re as befuddled as the rest of us why AJ stinks right now.
Whatever the reason, Eiland will have his work cut out for him this offseason.
TBS playoffs promo. October 6th. They need to run it on a loop in the Yankees clubhouse!
I can understand Longoria’s frustration, just not his thinking for voicing it to the public.
Welcome back Erin. You are a voice of reason around here.
this ticket business isn’t an oddity, it’s standard procedure. you can’t wait until a team has clinched before selling tickets. take the giants for instance. they have what a 1 game lead on a play-off spot?they put their tickets for the ALDS on sale LAST week.
http://sanfrancisco.giants.mlb.....38;c_id=sf
I’d like to think the Yankees are in a better spot than them…
Is Sesame Street really starting its 41st season?
A “Twitter” account is a dangerous thing…
from reading their quotes, I didn’t get the impression that Longo/Price were attempting to chastise fans as much as they were embarrassed by the lack of support.
If the Rays don’t get the support they deserve while being a good team, then the owners should do what others have done, and move them to an area that would support them.
In NC all the minor league teams, from A – AAA get great support, and if they ever got a team like the Rays, they’d sell out like the Yankees. Then watch out if they had that kind of money coming in to pay players.
I wouldn’t mind, then I could go see the Yankees when they’re in town. Ah, wishfull thinking.
Through his first 6 starts, Burnett was 4-0 with a 1.99 ERA.
Through the end of May, he was 6-2 with a 3.28 ERA
Since then, he is 4-13 with a 6.67 ERA
Ed Price of fanhouse:
AL Cy Young- King Felix
AL MVP- CC Sabathia
“Can we really say that someone who isn’t the best pitcher in the league is the MVP? Yes. Looking at the Yankees rotation over the past two months, it’s pretty clear how much it has meant to that team to have Sabathia pitch every fifth day — giving them a much better chance to win and eating up innings so the bullpen was fresh for the other 80 percent of the games.”
http://mlb.fanhouse.com/2010/0.....a-can-bot/
what??? where is the love for Robbie?
I see that Longoria and Price got into some trouble for criticizing the Tampa fans for the poor attendance at their recent home games. It reminds me of what Yogi Berra once said: “If fans don’t come out to the stadium, you can’t stop them.”
First, Ed Price is an idiot.
King Felix has avoided pitching against most #1′s all season, and his W-L record does not support the CY. Yes, I know, he gets no run support blah, blah, so what!
I believe CC deserves the CY. After CC I’d vote Price, Lester before King Felix.
Price is pitching for a 1st place team, and is one of the reasons they are in 1st. Lester is pitching for a team that’s lost their most important offensive players, and still manages to win big.
SAS September 28th, 2010 at 12:48 pm
Welcome back Erin. You are a voice of reason around here.
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Thank you SAS
The Rays franchise is valued at about $300M.
Franchises that come close to selling out on a Monday night in September against the O’s cost more than that.
Rays ownership is getting what they paid for.
” what??? where is the love for Robbie? ”
Found it, from an unlikely source-NESN:
“Cano hasn’t just been the best middle infielder in the American League this season. He’s arguably been the AL’s best overall player.”
http://www.nesn.com/2010/09/ro.....-race.html
AL,
In fairness he did have CC as the AL MVP which I think he should at least be considered for.
Also, agree…move the Rays to uptown Charlotte….they would get mad support despite what everyone says about the Bobcats.
upstate kate September 28th, 2010 at 1:11 pm
what??? where is the love for Robbie?
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my thoughts exactly.
My brother was kidding me the other day saying he doesn’t want to be anywhere near me if Robbie doesn’t get MVP. LOL
pat -
Even when the Yankees were in Tampa, and they were fighting for 1st place, there were only 24K in the stands. Even the Yankees play-by-play guys commented on the lack of support during those games. A team in first place, or fighting with a team for first place, deserves better support than that, regardless of what the franchise is valued at.
If I owned the Rays, I’d be looking to move them as soon as commitments allowed.
Erin
Did you see Robbie’s Nike commercial?
blake -
I’m about 1 1/2 hours north of Charlotte, I’d love to make that trip when the Yankees were in town. And you are correct, NC does support baseball at all levels extremely well. A good pro team could get rich being in Charlotte.
As to B-Ball, they prefer college ball here, big time crazy.
pat September 28th, 2010 at 1:27 pm
Erin
Did you see Robbie?s Nike commercial?
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I did. I’ve only watched it about 50 times.
Best. Commercial. Ever.
Big Al
Problem with moving them is the same problem they have in Tampa- funding a new stadium.
At a time when localities are laying off police officers, teachers and municipal workers, funding stadiums isn’t happening and Rays management has shown no interest in putting their hands in their own pocket.
Moving the Rays to Charlotte makes a ton of sense.
However, I read somewhere that Charlotte falls under the Braves “sphere of influence”.
Meaning that the Braves owners would have to be handsomely compensated for any move by the Rays.
thanks Tom
pat -
In this case I believe you may be wrong. In my area, the cities and counties have built new stadiums for minor league teams, and they are turning a profit, even the White Sox a team in Winston-Salem got a beautiful new stadium, at $35 mil!
Tom in NJ -
I believe you are correct. It still might be worth it to the Rays. Their AAA team is in Durham, about 2 hours from Charlotte, they’d love that. It would be like the Yankees in NY and Scranton, PA 2 hours away, it makes sense.
The S train has been plastered in a promo for the playoffs with Yankee players for about a week now.
Everyone has known the Yankees are going to the playoffs.
Big Al – while I agree moving the Rays to the Charlotte area seems to make a lot of sense – wouldn’t a MLB capable park go for more than $35M? Even if they built one that seats about 30-35,000, that would be a lot more money. And, yes, the Rays ownership has shown a great reluctance to spend on their own.
Big Al
Construction costs vary around the country but a major league ballpark is going to cost 20 times that at least.
I should clarify that it is a TBS add
I still think the MVP should go to position players. If there’s absolutely no worthy candidates I’d be open to giving it to a DH or pitcher.
Maybe the CY should be the MVP of pitchers. Not necessarily the best peripherals, but most valuable in terms of overall competitiveness.
The Rays could play in Bank of America Stadium.
Tom in NJ -
I think MLB giving any team a “sphere of influence” over a team coming into an area 2 states north is not right. That’s not different in saying the Yankees, Mets have a right to tell the Phillies or Pirates whether or not they could move within PA, or teams in Ohio what they can or can not do. Two states away is too large an area for sphere of influence, IMO.
Tom – that’s set-up for FB, I’m not sure you could use it for BB.
If you could use it for BB, that would make sense for the Panthers to get revenue, if they agreed, little cost in moving the team, and the money saved on a new stadium could be used to pay the Braves.
Target Field in Minneapolis cost an estimated $400 million for the stadium alone, but with the infrastructure improvements it was about $525 million, I believe. That field seats a bit under 40,000, I think, so it might be a decent cost comparison for building a stadium in the Charlotte area.
I wonder if Hawaii is in the SF Giants sphere of influence. People have been trying for years to get the blackouts lifted for Giants games, but to no avail. Blackouts don’t make sense, I’m sure Hawaii people would rather see a game at the park, rather than on tv.
But MLB refuses to open the door to discussions.
JM -
Good info.
Municipal bonds anyone?
Every team sells postseason tickets, even if they are long shots. You dont want your entire fanbase trying to buy tickets the day before the game.
You get refunded, minus ticketmaster fees, if the games don’t get played, just like when you buy game 4-5, 5-6-7 tickets
Target Field cost $544M with $152M coming from private financing from the Twins and the rest coming from a .15% sales tax in the county.
Al, the Giants have against the A’s moving to San Jose.
It’s silly. Especially in the case of the Braves being given rights to the Charlotte market.
m -
The travel to Hawaii would be prohibitive. 5 hrs from SF alone just to get to a single series. The cost factor and travel times rule out a team in Hawaii, but, there should be no blackouts of games going to Hawaii, do they expect people living there to hop on a plane for 5 hrs to see a game.
Anyone who has recently been to the uptown area of Charlotte would know how awesome a ballpark would look there….it is Braves country but it would be an AL team if it were the Rays so the conflict of interest wouldn’t be as great.
Al had a good point about their AAA team in Durham being so close as well. I wish it would happen….I’d go to at least 9 games a year when the Yanks were in town
Every team sells postseason tickets, even if they are long shots.
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If you can get your hands on some Mets 2010 playoff tickets, I will happily pay you double what you paid.
Well, I live near Charlotte. I see problems with the Rays moving to Charlotte. No. 1 The AAA club wanted to move uptown several years ago. Some lawyer filed suit about the deal and still there is no uptown ballpark. If you need other reasons I have some
Tom -
There was a time of no FA, a law suit changed that. Perhaps a law suit against MLB concerning areas that are sphere’s of influence would make sense. MLB may agree to re-visit those areas under that threat of a suit.
Tom,
I remember the Knights wanting to move downtown….which they should and there being some reason they couldn’t as well but can’t remember why. That’s a AAA team though…if a big league club decided to move to Charlotte and they wanted it bad enough I’m sure they could work it out. There are always obsticles in this sort of thing…but I so think it would be great and also think a team would be well supported, especially if they continued to be as competitive as they are now.
It is also true that given the precarious state of most states’ finances this days, it would likely be very, very difficult to get major public financing for a big ballpark project at this time.
blake -
I’ll meet you there, first beer is on me!
How absolutely wonderful are the Yankees and GMS III that when all is said and done, the entire NYS will have come out of their pockets. No taxpayer money!
AL,
We can wish huh..:)
blake September 28th, 2010 at 1:58 pm
Tom,
I remember the Knights wanting to move downtown….which they should and there being some reason they couldn’t as well but can’t remember why. That’s a AAA team though…if a big league club decided to move to Charlotte and they wanted it bad enough I’m sure they could work it out. There are always obsticles in this sort of thing…but I so think it would be great and also think a team would be well supported, especially if they continued to be as competitive as they are now
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I agree with you in part. I saw no reason the Knights should not be uptown. I was all in favor of it. They now play in SC. Not real convenient
I wonder though if Charlotte could support MLB
blake -
When I lived in NE PA I had season tickets to SWB, but always made the 2 hr ride to YS to watch the Big Team, as they were known in PA. Sure do miss those days.
Good talking to you folks, Gotta run
Have a good day Tom
Tom,
I think it could…the city is growing at a pretty rapid rate. Population wise its bigger than a lot of cities that you wouldn’t think it would be (Denver for example). I don’t see the Bobcats as a good frame of reference because 1) they aren’t any good 2) the area already has its basketball plate full with the ACC…baseball is big in the Carolinas.
Vegas would be a good place for a ball club. Some realignment would have to happen tho – and I’m sure no team would be happy to move to the AL East. If this were to happen (and this is all 100% my imagination), Vegas sports the new AL West team, Rangers move to AL Central and either Detroit or Cleveland moves to the AL East (they’re the furthest east cities – Cleveland being the furthest east of all the AL Central Teams).
blake -
ACC basketball is king, and having a pro team that does not compete will not be accepted.
Or they could just relocate TB to Vegas and make that a 5 team division (instead of 4) and make the AL East a 4 team division instead.
BIG AL September 28th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
I live in Charlotte area & work Uptown near where the new stadium plans are. Are you in this area too?
RayVT -
I’m 10 miles south of Winston-Salem, but close enough to Charlotte that I’d make the trip to watch the Yankees play.
Tom in N.J. September 28th, 2010 at 1:41 pm
Actually, there is a plan to build a baseball field about 2 blocks from the B of A Stadium.
It’s not true that all teams can sell post-season tickets. MLB authorizes teams to sell tickets once it appears their appearance in the post-season is virtually assured.
maybe the Rays could borrow the Bucs’ cheerleaders during the week? also, free beer.
there, problem solved.
Oddly, the NL Central has 6 teams, as horrible as it sounds, they could convert one of the NL Central teams to the AL East – Pittsburg makes the most sense geographically… and it all works out to 5 teams per division in the AL and NL.
of course – Pitt would probably be 1-161 in the AL.
I did not know that, Ray. Thanks.
Funny story-
My office is having a major renovation in a few weeks and they are making up clear all of our desks and drawers. As I was sorting through drawers, I found all of my old GTLU post-its from the early days where I thought post-its were an efficient way to run the game. (I didn’t throw them out then because I was afraid they’d get spotted in my garbage and someone would ask why I had piles of post its with Yankee line ups).
Oddly, the NL Central has 6 teams, as horrible as it sounds, they could convert one of the NL Central teams to the AL East – Pittsburg makes the most sense geographically… and it all works out to 5 teams per division in the AL and NL.
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did i miss something? the AL East has 5 teams. the west has 4 teams. to even that all out, one team would have to move from the central to the al west.
blake September 28th, 2010 at 2:08 pm
They love baseball in this town as well! The Bobcats is a bad example because the bad taste the Hornets Owner left with everyone (raping several cheerleaders) and getting off. They wanted no part of the new arena thing at the time.
The AAA Knights owner owns the land already for the new baseball field in Uptown Charlotte and yes he has been hassled by a local attorney to repair some vacant buildings.
“of course ? Pitt would probably be 1-161 in the AL.”
Their owners are okay with that because Yank and Sox travel well so their revenues would increase.
Plus if the Showalters are going to continue to improve, the Yankees need a gimme in the division.
Count me in as part of the group saying that Nova should start in the postseason over Black Eye. Even if Nova only pitches 5 innings, he’s a better option than Mr. “I’ve Been Hit Harder Than That Before, Kim”. AJ continues to embarrass himself on the mound and in his post game interviews. They say there’s no crying in baseball, but the thought of AJ pitching in the postseason brings me to tears.
Population wise…Charlotte is bigger than: Boston, Baltimore, Seattle, Denver, Milwaukee, Washington DC, Portland, Atlanta, and Kansas City.
Ray, does the VT stand for Virgina Tech?
The Pirates in the AL East, you might as well give them a gun so they could shoot themselves.
The Blue Jays would love to play in a different division. Anywhere but the AL East, and they’d of been fighting for a playoff spot.
I’d love to see the balanced schedule back, and no more inter league, unless there were a DH used, regardless of which play park the game was played, and all the teams within the division played the same NL teams, to keep the schedule balanced.
Good talking to ya’ll, catch you later.
Tom in N.J. September 28th, 2010 at 2:17 pm
You are welcome Tom. There are 2 plans, one is for a MLB team & other is for a MiLB team. Both have a complex of shopping and restaurants built into their plans. Uptown Charlotte is a dynamic community and really the hub of Charlotte Metro area. They have a light rail to get people in and hotels galore along with the NASCAR Hall of Fame, Bobcats, & Panthers all being Uptown too. They have the Financing with HC of BofA & Wachovia/Wells Fargo.
Ray,
I’m from NC and am in Charlotte very often visiting family/friends etc….baseball is huge in the state and surrounding states as well.
blake September 28th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
Yes VT = Va Tech
blake September 28th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
Yes it is. UNC, UScC, NCSU, Wake, Duke are all big Baseball teams in NCAA.
Ray,
I was in Uptown Charlotte just a few weeks ago and all I could think about was how that had to get a ballpark down there….whether it be the Knights or a big league club.
Ray,
I’ve been in Blacksburg for both home games so far this year….my wife is one of those Hokies
LOL! I’m on the 31st floor of an office building here that looks out at where the field is scheduled to be built. (Also see BofA Stadium & all their practice fields.)
It truly does need to happen. I spent over a year 2008 & 2009 in the Tampa area and TB Rays are liked, but no one wants to travel that bridge to St Pete. Plus, the area is truly devastated by the economy meltdown. And it rains all Spring & half the Summer and along with the heat & humidity issues they need a domed stadium which isn’t economical there.
I do look for it to happen & this year’s attendance is probably what will tip it over the edge.
ac1 – I was talking in reference to the dialogue about the Rays moving to another city – I suggested Vegas. So the AL West would then have 5 teams and the AL East 4 – so one of the NL teams would covert (Pittsburg being the eastern most city being the most logical choice based solely on geography) to the AL East.
But like Big Al said, it would be nothing short of a massacre. But I’m sure the O’s would love to have someone to beat on.
LOL Erica…don’t you have a shredder? I would usually figure out my line up early and shred the paper after
Interleague is another story altogether. Talk about unfair.
blake September 28th, 2010 at 2:32 pm
You are a lucky man! LOL! BTW, my wife is a JMU grad! LOL!
hardwired
the Rays actually do have cheer leaders already…apparently it hasn’t helped
Tom in N.J. September 28th, 2010 at 1:09 pm
Ed Price of fanhouse:
AL Cy Young- King Felix
AL MVP- CC Sabathia
“Can we really say that someone who isn’t the best pitcher in the league is the MVP? Yes. Looking at the Yankees rotation over the past two months, it’s pretty clear how much it has meant to that team to have Sabathia pitch every fifth day — giving them a much better chance to win and eating up innings so the bullpen was fresh for the other 80 percent of the games.”
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I love how hack writers that don’t actually write for a bonafide paper and are only working because some loser internet website needs warm bodies to write garbage feel a need to make a splash and write even more garbage than they usually do..ed price is just pulling stuff from his bleep to try and get a few more hits on his website
first off – if you ain’t good enough to actually win the award you are eligible for and get paid money to do (cy young) – then you obviously have no chance to win the other award that you may have been eligible for had you won the other one….(no pitcher has won the MVP award without actually winning his own award first that year) thats like the yankees trading for albert pujols to play dh and then ed price saying Mark Teixiera is the best 1st baseman in baseball – when he isn’t even the best 1st baseman on his own team..
then he wrote this ”
This year, that criterion gives the award to the Rangers’ Ron Washington, and it seems the right choice. He overcame his preseason admission to cocaine use and got Texas to the postseason for the first time since 1999″
he OVERCAME his preseason ADMISSION to cocaine use?…heck i didn’t know that cocaine ADMISSION is now a disease that you need to overcome….
finally he wrote – “Tampa Bay needs to win two of three in Kansas City this weekend to become the first AL team since the 2001 Mariners to have a winning record against every AL opponent.”
thats all well and good except for the fact that Tampa Bay plays FOUR games in KC this weekend…if you’re claiming to be a professional writer and give opinions and facts about things maybe you should do your homework and get the obvious facts right before you write your garbage…if tampa wins 2 out of 4 they wouldn’t have a winning record against the royals so they would need to win 3 out of 4….
ed price = garbage = aj burnett
I’m in Charlotte as well and would love to have them here. I would buy municipal bonds and pay more taxes gladly. haha.
sunny615 September 28th, 2010 at 2:35 pm
Perhaps they would move the Phils to AL East!
Ray,
Oh my…hope she didn’t give you too much grief a few weeks ago. I was with some very unhappy campers that day.
RayVT-What a division that would be…
upstate kate September 28th, 2010 at 2:36 pm
LOL Erica?don?t you have a shredder? I would usually figure out my line up early and shred the paper after
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LOL.. the shredding is all done by one person in my office (we don’t have to do our own). I don’t trust him.
justinxdance27 September 28th, 2010 at 2:38 pm
I actually live in SC side, but I pay NC & Charlotte taxes due to work & rental property in Charlotte.
i dont think the rays are going to be real threats past this year….
sunny615 September 28th, 2010 at 2:16 pm
Oddly, the NL Central has 6 teams, as horrible as it sounds, they could convert one of the NL Central teams to the AL East – Pittsburg makes the most sense geographically… and it all works out to 5 teams per division in the AL and NL.
of course – Pitt would probably be 1-161 in the AL.
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Not sure if anyone mentioned this but having 15 teams in each league would mean you would have an interleague series every week – thats why you have 16 teams in the NL and 14 in the AL – thats why bud selig, the genius that he is, moved his milwaukee brewers back to the NL the year MLB added the rays to the AL (1998)
sunny615 September 28th, 2010 at 2:40 pm
Yes it would & it might even coincide with the expansion of WC teams.
CLINCH tonight and take the AL East and HFA lead,,,,,ALL THREE !
IMO, Toronto belongs in the same division as Detroit!
Can you just imagine if the Yankees somehow choked up a giant furball and blew their huge lead? Girardi would never manage again in the big leads. He knows it. And behind the panic he’s demonstrated recently is that knowledge. Meanwhile, the team flounders, and the manager keeps trying to will them across the finish line.
YankFanCA September 28th, 2010 at 2:55 pm
Can you just imagine if the Yankees somehow choked up a giant furball and blew their huge lead? Girardi would never manage again in the big leads. He knows it. And behind the panic he’s demonstrated recently is that knowledge. Meanwhile, the team flounders, and the manager keeps trying to will them across the finish line.
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I don’t know about that…Grady Little and Joe Torre got jobs again (ironically both with the dodgers)- didn’t jerry manuel also choke a big lead away and kept his job? But if the collateral damage of the yankees not making the PS is girardi and more importantly cashman losing their jobs I’m all for it….
BrianCostaWSJ Girardi is now doing the pull-hitting drill with Cano and Nunez. Just laced one to the warning track in left.
BrianCostaWSJ Girardi smashes a ball over the left-field wall. And with that, he is done.
pat September 28th, 2010 at 3:01 pm
BrianCostaWSJ Girardi is now doing the pull-hitting drill with Cano and Nunez. Just laced one to the warning track in left.
BrianCostaWSJ Girardi smashes a ball over the left-field wall. And with that, he is done.
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looks like someone is letting off some end of season stress? can girardi activate himself and have him catch aj’s next start – he can’t possibly hit (or catch) any worse than cervelli…and may actually throw out a runner out of sheer frustration
Cincy is headed to the Playoffs and they only had 12K at their last Monday Home Game but ESPN only picks on the Rays. Maybe b/c they are mad the Red Sox are staying home…..they don’t know how bad the local situation is here economically, stadium location, etc
http://scores.espn.go.com/mlb/.....nnati-reds
“first off – if you ain’t good enough to actually win the award you are eligible for and get paid money to do (cy young) – then you obviously have no chance to win the other award that you may have been eligible for had you won the other one”
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The premise of the Cy Young and MVP a very different. The “idea” behind the Cy Young is to award the best pitcher, while the MVP is to award the most valuable player.
I can certainly see Price’s logic here. In fact, I support it.
Cano has had an absolutely fantastic year, but CC is their MVP.
I agree with you, needs to go, on the abilities of both Cashman & Girardi, but you can’t root against them making the postseason. I don’t think they’ll go far, but it is somewhat of a crapshoot.
YanksFanCA,
You have the right to express your opinion on Girardi.
But you’re fantasizing if you think Girardi won’t manage again.
sunny615 -
Phillies are the eastern team, Pirates are west, next to Ohio.
So, you want to put the Phillies in the AL east? It would be interesting. Something like 89 – 92 wins gets the division, and the 3 best teams in baseball don’t make the PS.
m — If they lose out AND miss the playoffs, Girardi is beyond damaged goods. He’s overseen one of the most epic colapses in history.
Cash & Girardi aren’t perfect. But who do you want instead?
If you took CC off the Yankees this season then I’m not sure how many games they would even be above .500 when you consider the bullpen implications of it.
“Cano has had an absolutely fantastic year, but CC is their MVP.”
Cano has contributed more to the Yankee season than CC. As important as CC has been, Cano has been more important.
People talking about Yankees choking the playoff spot. Man no guts from the fan base. Bunch of cowards with no positive energy. Don’t be getting the wagon when they play well in the playoffs.
“If they lose out AND miss the playoffs, Girardi is beyond damaged goods. He?s overseen one of the most epic colapses in history.”
Bigger than Torre 2004?
RayVT -
The Blue Jays would love to play in the AL central. They’d be a power house there.
Hey Inge, I don’t doubt they will make the playoffs; I’m just commenting on Girardi and the implications if they didn’t.
seriously, you can’t really think the Yankees wont make the play offs, they only need to win one game, or have the sox lose one. The sox are no magical team, they just lost 2 of 3 to the Os.
No, people talking about choking because they want the dominoes to fall.
CC – CY
Cano – MVP
That’s it!
Wave,
I disagree. I know Cano has a higher WAR than CC, but I think CC has been more important to this team. Especially, given the state of the rotation the second half of the season.
Burnett and Vazquez have basically been below replacement level pitchers and Andy was hurt for 2 months.
CC carried the team this year.
“Bigger than Torre 2004?”
Fair question, but I would say yes.
I think reasonable owners would understand that the players choked, not the managers. Sorry, Girardi stays in baseball. And we stay in the blogosphere.
YanksfanCA -
Except that the Yankees never had a “huge” lead this season. I believe 4 games was the most, but I’m sure someone will correct me if I’m wrong.
That doesn’t qualify as huge.
However, they were in first place for a majority of the season, even if it wasn’t a huge lead, and didn’t lose that position until it started getting too late to be doing such things.
Even now, though, they are only 1/2 game down and could conceivably still finish in first.
I have to believe they will win a game between now and the end of the season and/or that Boston will lose one game between now and the end of the season, thus making it into the playoffs, however unsatisfyingly they do so.
LGY-
I’m not basing my argument solely on WAR.
The fact is, if the Yanks didn’t have CC, they’d have somebody like him. Not as good as CC, perhaps, but like him.
But if they didn’t have Cano, they wouldn’t have been able to replace him with anyone near as good.
And, when you consider the relatively off-years Jeter and the middle of our lineup has had, Cano being able to step up has been just huge.
Plus, he’s played 155 games to CC’s 33.
Cano’s the Yank MVP.
If the Phils go AL East, they’d add a DH to their lineup. I think they become a tougher team. And if the league goes 2 WC, it’s possbile that one of the three best teams (currently) in the ML doesn’t go to the playoffs.
Have to chew on that nugget for a bit…
I thought they gave out the mvp on Sunday Night baseball?
LGY
I understand what you are saying about CC, but shouldn’t that play into the Cy Young as well? Isn’t that part of him being (arguably) the best pitcher? Do the intangibles play a part, or is it all about stats?
The Rays lease to the City of St. Pete for Tropicana Field expires in 2027. Fat chance of the Rays staying until then once the economy does a turnaround.
When the tarp is taken off the upper deck for playoffs, the capacity is north of 40,000 seats. Presently, the place seats 36,973.
The Rays have sold out this year for about 3 games and even with free concerts on weekends they can’t sell out the place.
The Buck-In-Ears have been blacked out on local TV per NFL rules for the 2 home games they’ve played so far and as they get worse they’ll continue to get blacked out.
It’s a stretch to think Rays owner Stuart Sternberg will stay in the area for another 10 years. If he threatens to move, he’ll get little attention.
The original Devil Rays were marketed completely wrong right from the get go.
People that hate Girardi and Cashman, do not realize how good we have it. The grass is always greener on the other guys field.
The Yankees are not going to fire either Cashman or Girardi. Do you all think it’s that simply to find a high quality GM and manager, if you do, then you are dilusional.
I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again – All of the “Fans” that are giving up, or ready to give up on the Yankees, will be the first on this blog to say, I knew they could do it, after they bring home #28. Fair weather fans are not true fans.
Those of us that lived through those horrible years, but stuck by our team, know what it’s like to be a Yankees fan, good or bad.
The rest of you are spoiled by the greatest team in MLB history, and can not accept anything but a championship every year. Get real, it’s not happenening every year, but, it’s not from a lack of dedication and effort on the part of the team and management.
The other part of the equation with not making the playoffs – if Girardi was following organizational policy as far as resting his players etc., and not worrying about the division title but being okay with utilizing the safety net of the wild card, he may manage to keep his job.
Because in the end, there were enough games where had the players come through with a sac fly or a timely hit or even having better at-bats (not looking at 3rd strikes or swinging at pitches in the dirt), they might have won enough games to avoid the worst case scenario, and management may decide not to place all the responsibility on Joe.
Plus, I’d think before they decided not re-sign someone they seem to have a good working relationship with, they’d have to have an idea of who they’d want to replace him. Now, maybe they have a working list of managerial candidates, and maybe they don’t. I guess we’ll find out if the season falls apart.
People talking about a possible Yankees collapse and what it would do to Cashman or Girardi and being ostracized from MLB… sheesh…
Recall that the Mets collapsed 2 years in a row and their manager and GM are still working. With the same team.
I think they would be just fine and if the Yankees fired either, another team would jump at the opportunity to hire either of them.
Wave,
That depends on when we “lost” CC thought right? What if both CC and Cano got hurt in ST?
I should have added IMO to CC being the MVP, because obviously there is a very strong argument for Cano.
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Kate,
I think it does.
I wouldn’t mind CC winning the Cy and MVP
. I am more just commenting on that I support Price’s logic/idea. I don’t see anything wrong with it despite CNTG blasting him.
I really don’t know who I would vote for as the Cy this year to be honest. If I had to vote for MVP I would go with CC though.
Hey Upstate Kate how are you?
I think if you took CC off the Yankees then that would have a greater impact than taking Cano off this season. They have other great hitters….they haven’t had other great pitching.
CC has been the Yankees MVP this season IMO as losing him would have wiped out the season most likely.
SAS are you still out there?
# BIG AL September 28th, 2010 at 3:24 pm
I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again – All of the “Fans” that are giving up, or ready to give up on the Yankees, will be the first on this blog to say, I knew they could do it, after they bring home #28. Fair weather fans are not true fans.
Those of us that lived through those horrible years, but stuck by our team, know what it’s like to be a Yankees fan, good or bad.
The rest of you are spoiled by the greatest team in MLB history, and can not accept anything but a championship every year. Get real, it’s not happenening every year, but, it’s not from a lack of dedication and effort on the part of the team and management.
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It’s just the wrist-cutters spewing their normal gloom and doom. The game and season have been over so many times when the team has lost/been losing (see Boston game thread just a few nights ago).
Every loss is “ZOMG!! THE WORST LOSS OF THE YEAR!!1!1!” And then when they rally to win, it’s the best win of the year.
Some people need a Xanax.
can girardi activate himself and have him catch aj’s next start –
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Who do you think gave AJ his shiner?
CC had an 8 game layoff between the ALDS and the ALCS last year and then pitched ALCS Game 4 on short rest. Same scenario between ALCS and WS.
Pitching him tonight and then ALDS Game 1 and Game 4 on short rest could be following that pattern.
Who’s WAR is better?
BR has CC at 5.1 and Cano at 5.5.
Fangraphs has CC at 4.6 and Cano at 6.4
War of the WARS?
“They have other great hitters….they haven’t had other great pitching. ”
Not this year. No one’s close.
“CC has been the Yankees MVP this season IMO as losing him would have wiped out the season most likely.”
That’s a false argument. You take the best pitcher off of any contender and replace him with the sixth, seventh, eighth best starter on a team, it is going to wipe out the season. That’s not the MVP standard.
LGY September 28th, 2010 at 3:08 pm
“first off – if you ain’t good enough to actually win the award you are eligible for and get paid money to do (cy young) – then you obviously have no chance to win the other award that you may have been eligible for had you won the other one”
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The premise of the Cy Young and MVP a very different. The “idea” behind the Cy Young is to award the best pitcher, while the MVP is to award the most valuable player.
I can certainly see Price’s logic here. In fact, I support it.
Cano has had an absolutely fantastic year, but CC is their MVP.
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LGY – if CC is the yankee MVP, would you also give him the yankee cy young award (i.e. the best pitcher on the yankees this year?) – because if you do then you’ve proven my point (that being that you can be the MVP if you also win the cy young, but if you don’t win the cy young you by default aren’t the best pitcher in the baseball and therefore shouldn’t be eligible for the MVP because the cy young award winner should get the mvp over you since he’s obviously was the most valuable player to his team)
Some (many) people post complaints at every opportunity to push their personal agendas. We get it, you don’t like so and so.
blake -
You’d have a good argument either way.
Cano is a gold glove 2B, has carried the offensively for a great deal of the season, filled in for A-Rod in the 4 hole and did great there as well. Robbie has done an outstanding job on both sides, and as you stated, without CC pitching as he did this season would have been lost long ago. But, you’d have to give credit to YMH as well, although not an MVP, had he not stood up and given the team 17 wins, only 3 less than Cc, there the season goes as well. Call me old fashion, I think CY goes to pitchers (that’e their MVP) and MVP should go to a postion player, IMO.
pat,
That is a really good point.
I was not happy with CC starting tonight, but if that is the idea behind it that probably makes sense.
If he started on Friday that would be 3 full games pitched over 10 days.
Hi Comet
good to see you
Girardi has made some puzzling decisions as of late, but I think it is trying to make the post season and rest players at the same time…sometimes in the same game
sox fans are critical of Francona, rays fans are critical of Maddon…I think it just goes w/ the territory
Cashman spent $213M to have basically the same record as TB and Minnesota. How in the world can anyone say a GM is good when he spends THREE TIMES what the competition does and can’t win more than them??? Alot more than them!
Yeh, yeh, its NY, more expensive, legacy contracts, team still makes money, etc. But its not $20M or $30M more. Its $120M, $130M more. Its obscene.
If your husband/wife went to the store and spent 3X what your neighbor did for the exact same thing…what would you say?
apropos nothing, the least valuable player, according to fangraphs, is an old friend:
http://www.fangraphs.com/leade.....38;month=0
YankFanCA September 28th, 2010 at 3:09 pm
I agree with you, needs to go, on the abilities of both Cashman & Girardi, but you can’t root against them making the postseason. I don’t think they’ll go far, but it is somewhat of a crapshoot.
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Oh i absolutely would be devastated if they missed out on the PS – so no i’m not rooting that they miss out – i’m just saying if they do miss out then firing both airheads for f’ing with a championship team is the right thing to do..
as for them making the PS – i actually think wild card or HFA doesn’t matter- i think experience may take over and win them some games while getting them to the WS (have you seen how bad minnesota has looked the last week?)- i think if they reach the WS and the phillies do as well then it may be a tough series to win with halladay going 3 out of those 7 games…
maddon went with a righty! and francona used oki when bard was warming up!
just kidding of course, but that’s a good point, kate.
CC gets the “A” team behind him tonight.
CNTG,
You are conflating the 2 awards when they are not based on the same criteria.
I would be fine giving CC the MVP and Felix the Cy as Price proposed.
Wonder how many tickets will be needed with the way they are playing.
For A.J., does anyone remember that he collapsed at the beginning of the season when the pitching coach had to leave for about a month. Then he was fine until he left the team at the end of a roundtrip to attend his grandfather’s funeral. He hasn’t been consistent since he returned. Could it be mental? Emotional?
If they have any smarts, they will throw CC a few innings in Boston.
Peter Gammons was just on with Francesca and he sounded very disappointed that so many people are down on Sabathia (and mentioned Baseball Prospectus, which just mentioned that CC isn’t even one of the 10 best pitchers in baseball). They were both very down on the cold, calculating method of evaluating pitchers (well, they specifically mentioned pitchers) of sabermetricians, who seem to think that there are no such things as pressure games. Gammons said if first, but Mike agreed- there is a difference between Felix doing his thing with zero pressure and CC having the weight of the world on his shoulders in NY. Personally, I don’t care if CC gets the award or not – I think he probably has been the MVP of the Yankees because AJ and Javy crapped out and Andy was hurt. That said, this lineup has not been good – most are having bad years and if it weren’t for Cano, no I don’t think we’d be in the playoff hunt.
# Mike V September 28th, 2010 at 3:40 pm
Wonder how many tickets will be needed with the way they are playing.
For A.J., does anyone remember that he collapsed at the beginning of the season when the pitching coach had to leave for about a month. Then he was fine until he left the team at the end of a roundtrip to attend his grandfather’s funeral. He hasn’t been consistent since he returned. Could it be mental? Emotional?
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No matter what, the tickets will sell out. It’s the Yankees.
As for AJ, it’s always mental. His stuff is phenomenal. Ace stuff. But he can’t get out of his own way. It may be a physical issue in that he isn’t repeating his mechanics, but to me, that’s still a mental issue because he’s not concentrating or is putting too much pressure on himself. I don’t believe he’s injured, so it’s all in his head.
Tom in N.J. September 28th, 2010 at 3:37 pm
apropos nothing, the least valuable player, according to fangraphs, is an old friend:
http://www.fangraphs.com/leade…..mp;month=0
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To all out there still pining for Melky – Ouch!
“Gammons said if first, but Mike agreed- there is a difference between Felix doing his thing with zero pressure and CC having the weight of the world on his shoulders in NY.”
I’ve heard this argument, but think it is based on false assumptions so I can’t agree with the conclusion, either.
Lots of people say Felix Hernandez pitches with “no pressure”. But that isn’t true. The devil is in the definition of the term “pressure”.
Seattle doesn’t score runs for Hernandez. The burden in each game is all on Hernandez to give up a run or less. And sometimes even when he gives up only one run he loses anyway.
Ballplayers want to win. And when you can lose the game on each and every pitch you throw, that’s pressure.
CC faces different pressure. He has a team who will score runs for him, so he doesn’t face the pressure of knowing each and every pitch could lose the game. Instead, he faces the pressure of having to come away with a “W” on a big market contending team.
Both face their own kind of pressure.
Which pressure is worse? I don’t think you can say.
Re: The Rays moving.
I don’t see but one market giving them the fan support they desire.
NY/NJ
There were 4 teams at one time in the area IIRC.
Moving the team to the areas mentioned above would most likely give them the revenue boost they are looking for.
Can it happen?
Think Washington Senators, Indianapolis Colts, Oakland Raiders….
The advantages to the other teams? Bigger gate receipts for the visiting teams. Diffusion of the cash cow currently enjoyed by the Yankees and Mets. I could see the majority of owners backing such a plan in their quest to even the playing field economically speaking.
clownthrowindown September 28th, 2010 at 3:37 pm
Cashman spent $213M to have basically the same record as TB and Minnesota. How in the world can anyone say a GM is good when he spends THREE TIMES what the competition does and can’t win more than them??? Alot more than them!
Yeh, yeh, its NY, more expensive, legacy contracts, team still makes money, etc. But its not $20M or $30M more. Its $120M, $130M more. Its obscene.
If your husband/wife went to the store and spent 3X what your neighbor did for the exact same thing…what would you say?
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Those that know the least, shout the loudest. If you can’t comprehend why, and how the Yankees spend their money, then you lack the grey matter to understand the difference between the NYY, and the Twins and Rays.
It was a nice afternoon on the blog, before school let out. Later folks.
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