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Game 159: Yankees at Blue Jays

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Gameday Thread on Sep 29, 2010 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

YANKEES (94-64)
Derek Jeter SS
Nick Swisher RF
Mark Teixeira 1B
Alex Rodriguez 3B
Robinson Cano 2B
Marcus Thames DH
Austin Kearns LF
Francisco Cervelli C
Greg Golson CF

RHP Javier Vazquez (10-9, 5.07)
Vazquez vs. Blue Jays

BLUE JAYS (81-76)
Travis Snider LF
Yunel Escobar SS
Jose Bautista RF
Vernon Wells CF
Lyle Overbay 1B
Aaron Hill 2B
Adam Lind DH
John Buck C
John McDonald 3B

LHP Brett Cecil (14-7, 4.20)
Cecil vs. Yankees

TIME/TV: 7:07 p.m. / YES Network

UMPIRES: HP Jeff Kellog, 1B Larry Vanover, 2B Jeff Nelson, 3B Mark Carlson

WEATHER: The roof is actually open right now and it feels nice. A little chilly, but not too bad. This place is infinitely better when it’s open.

SEE YOU IN OCTOBER: The Yankees have secured their 49th postseason berth, the most of any franchise. This will be their 15th playoff appearance in the past 16 years. Tuesday was the latest the Yankees had clinched a spot since 2005, when they clinched on October 1.

HITS ARE OVERRATED: Last night the Yankees scored six runs without a single RBI hit. According to Elias, they are the second time to score six or more runs without a hit this season. The Mets did it against Florida in April. The biggest difference between the Yankees and the Mets: The Yankees won their game, the Mets lost theirs.

NUMBERS DON’T LIE: CC Sabathia’s win last night marked the 11th time in the past 20 years that a major league pitcher recorded 21 wins with a winning percentage of .750 or better and an ERA below 3.20. Eight of the previous 10 pitchers to do it won the Cy Young. The only exceptions were Curt Schilling in 2001 and Mike Hampton in 1999.

UPDATE, 7:38 p.m.: Starting a little late after the Cito Gaston tribute. The Blue Jays, by the way, have drawn mustaches on themselves in honor of their manager. It’s pretty hilarious.

UPDATE, 8:05 p.m.: Here’s Vazquez for his second inning of work after a rocky first inning that could have been much worse than one run. Before the game, Girardi said Vazquez could pitch his way onto the postseason roster. I have to think he could also pitch his way off it.

UPDATE, 8:11 p.m.: Two innings. Two Blue Jays home runs. It’s a 2-0 Toronto lead.

UPDATE, 8:34 p.m.: Double play gets Vazquez out of the third inning — one that started with a crazy catch by Joe Carter of all people — and it’s 3-0 Blue Jays. Vazquez has thrown 50 pitches.

UPDATE, 8:55 p.m.: Another run for Vazquez. The Yankees have had Albaladejo up in the bullpen. With a day off tomorrow, I wonder if they would pull Javy after just four innings. It’s already 4-0.

UPDATE, 9:25 p.m.: Alex Rodriguez just hit his 30th home run of the season, and the guy who caught it threw it back. The home run extended Rodriguez’s record of 14 seasons with at least 30 homers and 100 RBI. I’m not sure the ball was worth a ton, but it was probably worth something, and the guy who caught it must have been kicking himself when he saw the Blue Jays throw the ball into the Yankees dugout for safe keeping.

Meanwhile, the internet has been very hit-and-miss tonight, but Javier Vazquez might have thrown his last pitch of the season. He left after a three-run home run in the fifth. It’s now 7-1 Blue Jays.

UPDATE, 10:13 p.m.: Joba Chamberlain allowed an unearned run in the seventh and it’s now 8-3 Blue Jays. Rodriguez made his first error since July 17.

 
 

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737 Responses to “Game 159: Yankees at Blue Jays”

  1. CR9 September 29th, 2010 at 7:21 pm

    Bret – I dont post on any other blogs any longer – I got banned a couple years ago by WasWatching and under my ESPN insider account for trashing Peter Gammons repeatedly on one of his insider articles . Only you guys have the honor of reading my ramblings! I do, however, read some posts occasionally on ESPN boards when it involves Yankees fans insulting Red Sox fans.

    I always enjoy Yankees fans insulting Red Sox fans. That will never get old for me!

    ___

    Dont like Cito, but he deserves this. He did win 2 World Series for them, and prevented Schilling from winning with the Phillies :)

  2. blake September 29th, 2010 at 7:26 pm

    Here’s hoping that Javy pitches well, the Yanks win, and the Orioles play their butts off and beat the Rays…..and that the Braves hold on.

  3. MTU September 29th, 2010 at 7:27 pm

    Blake-

    That’s a lot to hope for but I hope it works out. Enjoy the game.

  4. blake September 29th, 2010 at 7:31 pm

    MTU,

    you as well….If you’re going to wish, wish big right ;)

  5. Squeakz September 29th, 2010 at 7:32 pm

    Why is the game not on yet???

  6. syd_cash September 29th, 2010 at 7:33 pm

    when is this game gonna start geez

  7. pat September 29th, 2010 at 7:33 pm

    Ledger_Yankees Cito thanked the Yankees for being out for the ceremony. Class stuff.

  8. Frozen Rope September 29th, 2010 at 7:35 pm

    not sure why Cito is retiring, he’s not that old and has done a great job both stints in toronto.

  9. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2010 at 7:37 pm

    :(

    Poor Cito was crying. Of course that made me cry right along with him.

    Godspeed Cito. You’ve earned it well.

    Nice job YES, losers, for not showing us the video tribute.

  10. Frozen Rope September 29th, 2010 at 7:37 pm

    oh man, imagine how big Schillings head would have been if he had won a ring in Philly too.

  11. Betsy September 29th, 2010 at 7:39 pm

    That’s nice – both on the Yankees’ part and on Gaston’s part. I always appreciate seeing the opposing team watch ceremonies at YS and the Yankees have always appreciated similar goings on at other stadiums.

  12. jonnycat September 29th, 2010 at 7:40 pm

    I know no one wants to hear my complaining, but I just want to vent. Cleared out a good 30-40 minutes out of my work schedule this morning to attempt to buy tickets. Had the phone and the computer on, phone was chronically busy even though I called every 20 seconds the whole time. Not once did I get a ring. Website was useless, although I aimed for different price ranges for all three games. Did anyone get through/have a good strategy? It’s ridiculous. I mean I remember camping out at the old stadium for hours, even the situation with the wristbands. How many true fans get to enjoy the playoffs this year? Out of those three games, how many actual seats were left for actual fans? Ughhhh

  13. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2010 at 7:40 pm

    Wish we were 10 games up because then I would be saying let the Jays win it for Cito.

    :(

    Big Al, I tried to email you but it bounced back. I think I figured out why. Gonna try the same email again.

    :)

  14. Ruby Tuesday September 29th, 2010 at 7:41 pm

    So I guess the Blow Jays will be extra juiced for this game .

  15. CR9 September 29th, 2010 at 7:41 pm

    Trisha – For once, YES did the right thing. No need to show a ceremony for an opposing team. The Rays didnt show the ceremony for GMS III.

    I think the fake mustaches are ridiculous :)

  16. Ruby Tuesday September 29th, 2010 at 7:41 pm

    :(

  17. Benny Blanco September 29th, 2010 at 7:42 pm

    I hate SEESIL!

  18. Captain Clutch September 29th, 2010 at 7:42 pm

    Let’s go Yanks!! They should get ready for 1 million change ups tonight….

  19. blake September 29th, 2010 at 7:43 pm

    Cecil, Morrow, Drabek, etc…Jays are going to be able to pitch very well for the near future.

  20. Emily in NJ September 29th, 2010 at 7:43 pm

    jonnycat,
    My friend did the web thing right at 10am, said ticketmaster refreshed for about 3 minutes then put up tickets for section 246 (my first postseason game, am not being picky) and it went through.
    However he got tickets for home game 3.. and a lot has to happen for that to be possible. :(

  21. Emily in NJ September 29th, 2010 at 7:43 pm

    236** my bad

  22. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2010 at 7:46 pm

    “The Rays didnt show the ceremony for GMS III. ”

    Were you watching the Tampa feed? If not, how do you know?

  23. Captain Clutch September 29th, 2010 at 7:46 pm

    Vazquez hasn’t given up a run yet. Oh wait….

  24. Betsy September 29th, 2010 at 7:46 pm

    When you’re bad for a long time, such is to be expected – unfortunately. The Yankees and Sox aren’t allowed to be bad and so they end up drafting at the end of the rounds and don’t usually get these hot prospects. Given how competitive (brutal) the division is going to be – and for awhile, not just short term – we really need a few (not all, obviously) of our pitching prospects to pan out.

  25. blake September 29th, 2010 at 7:47 pm

    With a retractable roof, why don’t the Jays plant some grass in the Roger Center?

  26. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2010 at 7:47 pm

    The guy is a baseball manager, not a baseball owner. I would have appreciated watching the entire ceremony honoring him.

    I have charted Javy in for at least 5 shutout innings.

    :)

    GO JAVY!

  27. jonnycat September 29th, 2010 at 7:47 pm

    Emily, thanks, I am so envious! If I knew how to make one of those jealous smiley’s on this website, I would.

    :)

  28. blake September 29th, 2010 at 7:48 pm

    Arod gets #30 tonight.

  29. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2010 at 7:49 pm

    johnnycat – stubhub. You’ll definitely get tickets.

  30. pat September 29th, 2010 at 7:49 pm

    Rangers beat the M’s today on a walk off strike out.

    That’s taking creative ways to lose to a new level.

  31. Bronx Jeers September 29th, 2010 at 7:49 pm

    Sec 236 are LF bleachers.

    I don’t mind bleachers in the new stadium. The view is pretty decent and I believe you even have more space.

    Of course you’re on a bench.

  32. CR9 September 29th, 2010 at 7:50 pm

    Trisha – Yes. The Tampa feed didnt show the GMS III ceremony. They showed some taped Rays half hour crap show instead.

    UGH! Javy has not started out on the right foot!

  33. Benny Blanco September 29th, 2010 at 7:50 pm

    are you serious?

  34. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2010 at 7:50 pm

    johnnycat I know someone who is going to sell some of his playoff tickets if your’re interested. They are in the nosebleed seats.

    Well I guess the 5 shutout innings don’t include the first inning.

    :(

  35. Ruby Tuesday September 29th, 2010 at 7:50 pm

    In case you haven’t seen it, here’s Jeffery Passan’s article on Francisco Liriano:

    http://tinyurl.com/2crx9ye

    He, too, has penciled in a complete game shutout from Liriano for Game One against our Yankees.

  36. Captain Clutch September 29th, 2010 at 7:50 pm

    Well it only took one batter….Vazquez better be far, far away from the post season roster.

  37. Captain Clutch September 29th, 2010 at 7:50 pm

    Well it only took one batter….Vazquez better be far, far away from the post season roster.

  38. pat September 29th, 2010 at 7:51 pm

    “I have charted Javy in for at least 5 shutout innings.”

    You’re going to need to edit that chart.

  39. Benny Blanco September 29th, 2010 at 7:51 pm

    Honestly, It might be 5-0 before 2 outs.

  40. 108 stitches September 29th, 2010 at 7:51 pm

    It didn’t take long. Can’t wait to see what the ALDS pitching staff will look like. It’s batting pracice at the Rogers Centre.

  41. syd_cash September 29th, 2010 at 7:51 pm

    looks like nothing has changed with Javy

  42. blake September 29th, 2010 at 7:51 pm

    Changeup…up in the zone. Snider has a great swing.

  43. Cashmoney September 29th, 2010 at 7:51 pm

    a thief and a loser! that epitaph will be forever engraved on Javy’s NY tombstone. Good riddance! Release him now!

  44. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2010 at 7:52 pm

    Unfortunately Toronto doesn’t have a feed going over ExtraInnings tonight because I would have turned on their feed to see it.

  45. LGY September 29th, 2010 at 7:52 pm

    Free outs with HR Javy on the mound?

    Thank you Mr. Escobar.

  46. yanks22 September 29th, 2010 at 7:52 pm

    Wow Javy sucks!

  47. CR9 September 29th, 2010 at 7:53 pm

    That was a nice recovery by Javier and the defense.

  48. Betsy September 29th, 2010 at 7:53 pm

    I’ll be glad when he’s out of here. I’ve sort of had enough with his post-game comments, acting as if he’s entitled to a long leash.

  49. blake September 29th, 2010 at 7:53 pm

    Thanks Escobar…..

  50. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2010 at 7:53 pm

    “You’re going to need to edit that chart.”

    No need yet. It could be 2-6.

  51. Niblick September 29th, 2010 at 7:53 pm

    Bad base running comes to Javy’s rescue again.

  52. Captain Clutch September 29th, 2010 at 7:53 pm

    It’s time to get Girardi’s boyfriend Gaudin up lol

  53. Betsy September 29th, 2010 at 7:53 pm

    Either way, if he gets tatooed, he gets tatooed. I don’t want to waste any good relievers in this game.

  54. blake September 29th, 2010 at 7:53 pm

    Javy had better keep the ball down….

  55. Triple Short of a Cycle September 29th, 2010 at 7:53 pm

    I could care less about tonight’s game but can anyone answer me what happened to Vasquez from last year to this year? I have never been more wrong on a guy coming to the Yankees in my life. I figured he would win 14 or so games and have about a low 4′s ERA.

    Are we going to be fed a bunch of garbage in the off season how he was hurt again? Will we watch him go to another team next year and be dominant again?

    What gives?

  56. Benny Blanco September 29th, 2010 at 7:54 pm

    If javy and burnett had been above average pitchers, yankees would have won at least 103 games.

  57. sunny615 September 29th, 2010 at 7:55 pm

    So much for Javy in the postseason.

    One can only hope that this is the last run he gives up for the next six innings. But given is recent performances, it’s unlikely.

  58. NYY fan in NH September 29th, 2010 at 7:55 pm

    NL to AL for Javy and the fear of NYC.. That’s the difference between Javy this year and last year.. What an absolute mistake to sign him!

  59. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2010 at 7:55 pm

    The ones my friend is selling are 420A behind home plate. He said they’re nosebleed seats.

  60. Emily in NJ September 29th, 2010 at 7:56 pm

    Bronx Jeers,

    I don’t even care if it’s standing room.. I just want to be there. I’ve been rooting for NY 2,500 miles away my entire life so… I just want to go. I went to the Yanks/Tampa game last Thursday, we were in section 233a. Wasn’t bad at all!

  61. blake September 29th, 2010 at 7:56 pm

    “what happened to Vasquez from last year to this year? ”

    he lost 3-4 MPH on his fastball and hasn’t been able to adjust to it.

  62. Niblick September 29th, 2010 at 7:56 pm

    Let’s hope Javy and AJ both miss the plane to Minnesota.

  63. Benny Blanco September 29th, 2010 at 7:56 pm

    Triple short,

    I’ve wondered the exact same thing. Especially with AJ, he had the worst season of his career.

  64. sunny615 September 29th, 2010 at 7:57 pm

    They didn’t sign him. They traded for hi.

  65. YankFanCA September 29th, 2010 at 7:57 pm

    They cannot give him the ball in the playoffs. Or can they? Lord, I hope not.

  66. Bronx Jeers September 29th, 2010 at 7:57 pm

    You could probably say even if they were average pitchers they may have won 103.

  67. Betsy September 29th, 2010 at 7:57 pm

    No, the difference is the guy lost his stuff………..Bad luck because we won’t even get draft picks out of him.

    AJ and Javy were beyond, beyond awful this year…………..

  68. JobaTipsHisCap September 29th, 2010 at 7:57 pm

    this is fast

  69. UnKnown September 29th, 2010 at 7:57 pm

    wonder what outfits the rookies will be wearing on this final road trip to boston. Some years they are pretty funny

  70. LGY September 29th, 2010 at 7:57 pm

    The NY water sucked 3 MPH out of Javy’s fastball :roll:

  71. Betsy September 29th, 2010 at 7:58 pm

    Javy won’t get the ball; I’m more worried about AJ getting it in the ALDS. The Yankees think AJ can dominate and as long as they hold out hope…………….

  72. jonnycat September 29th, 2010 at 7:58 pm

    trisha, I may be interested. Would need to know what game and what cost :)

  73. LGY September 29th, 2010 at 7:58 pm

    Javy is not even a Type A free agent anymore.

    Compensation is based on 2 years. He was a Cy Young candidate last year, but he was so bad this year he is only a Type B now.

  74. blake September 29th, 2010 at 7:58 pm

    Javy has been better than AJ this year…..that’s not saying a whole lot but its true. At least Javy won’t quit out there…..he may get hit but he’ll compete.

  75. Betsy September 29th, 2010 at 8:00 pm

    It doesn’t even matter; the Yankees would never offer him arbitration. Just plain old bad luck – it always seems to happen to us. Watch – he’ll find his velocity and stuff next year.

  76. Triple Short of a Cycle September 29th, 2010 at 8:00 pm

    Who just loses 3 MPH off their fastball?

    and if the excuse is he was hurt then why was he pitching? Why wasn’t he put on the DL?

  77. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2010 at 8:00 pm

    johnnycat – will email the guys right now and let you know what I find out. Are you looking for two tickets or one? Don’t know if he’ll split them if he has two, though he might.

  78. Betsy September 29th, 2010 at 8:00 pm

    Blake, I don’t even know how you determine what’s quitting. I never say an athlete quits unless I have proof because that’s the most damning thing you can say. Can’t it be that AJ is just bad?

  79. Ace September 29th, 2010 at 8:01 pm

    That inning defines Javy in ’10

  80. Cashmoney September 29th, 2010 at 8:01 pm

    Are we going to be fed a bunch of garbage in the off season how he was hurt again?
    ==============
    absolutely, more noise of him being hurt ! I am sure when he imploded in 2008 in the middle of a dead heat pennant race he was hurt as well!

  81. sunny615 September 29th, 2010 at 8:01 pm

    I don’t think he was injured but I don think all the mileage on his arm caught up to him.

  82. Betsy September 29th, 2010 at 8:01 pm

    That said, I agree about Javy – he’s not gutless at all (not saying AJ is); he just can’t do it right now.

  83. sunny615 September 29th, 2010 at 8:02 pm

    I DO think not don think.

  84. Ace September 29th, 2010 at 8:02 pm

    Debating aj/javy is like asking who’s worse. Stalin/hitler.

  85. jonnycat September 29th, 2010 at 8:02 pm

    trisha- prob two.

    btw, how come no one else was gripping here today about the crappy ticket selling?

  86. blake September 29th, 2010 at 8:02 pm

    Javy has thrown a ton of innings in his career and he’s not a very big guy….maybe the debt for that has come due. Who knows, maybe it’s mechanical, maybe he’s hiding a shoulder problem, maybe he’s just thrown too many baseballs in his life. It happens….happened to Pedro Martinez as well, and a lot of other guys. Happened to Mussina and he struggled for awhile until he adjusted.

  87. West Coast Yankee Fan September 29th, 2010 at 8:02 pm

    Vazquez will make the post-season roster I’m sure. I bet he can’t wait to get the hell out of New York though. He seems like a really good guy, but this wasn’t the right situation for him at this point in his career. He’s just not good enough anymore to pitch in the AL East.

  88. Betsy September 29th, 2010 at 8:02 pm

    He pitched in the WBC 2 years ago – maybe that’s had an effect. The guy has been an innings machine for a decade; perhaps that’s catching up to him…………….it will catch up to every pitcher sooner or later

  89. Cashmoney September 29th, 2010 at 8:03 pm

    That inning defines Javy in ‘10
    —————————
    Release him after this game ! The Yankee doesn’t need his jinxing way around their playoff bound team.

  90. Triple Short of a Cycle September 29th, 2010 at 8:03 pm

    I know its a long shot but I really hope the Yanks eat a nice chunk of AJ’s contract and trade him in the off season.

  91. Betsy September 29th, 2010 at 8:03 pm

    He’ll probably retire in a couple of years anyway; this off-season there were articles that he was leaning towards that.

  92. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2010 at 8:04 pm

    I absolutely and unequivocally did not want Javier Vazquez back with the Yankees. I thought it was a mistake, a bad move, I didn’t like his attitude when he was losing games with the Yankees, I didn’t think he had the stomach to pitch for the Yankees.

    That said, I was convinced by others to at least give him a chance because it was always possible that things could have changed. So I did. And now the way I feel is that as long as he’s in pinstripes, I have his back. I saw him have a few good outings for the Yankees and so it makes me wonder why those can’t be duplicated.

    But anyway, I wish the best for him and for the Yankees. If those aren’t one and the same, well then they aren’t.

  93. sunny615 September 29th, 2010 at 8:04 pm

    Way to swing at ball 4 Kearns.

  94. CR9 September 29th, 2010 at 8:04 pm

    The NY bad luck sucked 3 mph off his fastball :(

    Joe Carter, there’s a cool guy! btw, great class shown by the Yankees by viewing the entire ceremony.

  95. Triple Short of a Cycle September 29th, 2010 at 8:04 pm

    Betsy,

    Funny how these guys just seem to lose it right when they come to the Yankees

  96. sunny615 September 29th, 2010 at 8:06 pm

    Triple short. If they didn’t do with Pavano, they’re not going to do it with AJ. they try to get value out of him somehow. Maybe Cliff Lee can straighten him out.

  97. MG September 29th, 2010 at 8:06 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2010 at 7:47 pm

    I have charted Javy in for at least 5 shutout innings.
    —————————————
    that chart must have a built in acceleration factor of 15 outs…

  98. blake September 29th, 2010 at 8:06 pm

    Betsy,

    He stopped competing in that last start and just started grooving pitches….its not the first time this year either. I am a pretty tolerant fan but not when it comes to that… He has personally taken the Yankees out of numerous games this season. He needs to get his head on straight for find somewhere else to pitch.

  99. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2010 at 8:06 pm

    “btw, how come no one else was gripping here today about the crappy ticket selling?”

    I went through phone ticketing with them once and never did it again. 45 minutes on wait only to be told that all the tickets I wanted were sold out (I was looking for a package),

    I pretty much get all of my tickets on stubhub.

  100. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2010 at 8:07 pm

    “that chart must have a built in acceleration factor of 15 outs…”

    I already noted that I didn’t indicate which innings would be the shutout innings…”

    :)

  101. NYY fan in NH September 29th, 2010 at 8:07 pm

    There’s more talent in the minors working their way up to offset the loss of Javy.. Not that it would take much to offset that, but Nova if he can get by his “inning wall” could be in the mix. I like his makeup. Signing Lee is the first priority. It’s not a given, but I feel good that he will be here next year.

  102. Benny Blanco September 29th, 2010 at 8:07 pm

    Maybe Javy wanted to redeem himself so bad that it backfired.

  103. Triple Short of a Cycle September 29th, 2010 at 8:09 pm

    sunny615,

    Well Pavano was hurt just about the entire time he was here so it would have been pretty tough to trade him? And to think the biggest worry about Burnett coming here was him being injury prone

  104. West Coast Yankee Fan September 29th, 2010 at 8:09 pm

    That’s Cashman’s judgment. He knew what he was getting in Javy. Pitching in the NL for the Braves is a lot different than pitching here. He had a track record.

  105. Rich in NJ September 29th, 2010 at 8:10 pm

    “We’re playing to win this division. We’ll be smart about it, but we’re still playing to win this division.”

    Gotcha.

  106. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2010 at 8:10 pm

    I’m thinking that my chart may indeed be incorrect.

  107. Triple Short of a Cycle September 29th, 2010 at 8:10 pm

    As long as they sign Lee they will be fine

  108. West Coast Yankee Fan September 29th, 2010 at 8:10 pm

    And there you have it. This is not “trying to win the division”. I doubt there were many who thought Javy was going to be effective today.

  109. Cashmoney September 29th, 2010 at 8:11 pm

    This man on the playoff roster? NO!!!! I take Mitre over him.

  110. Betsy September 29th, 2010 at 8:11 pm

    Blake, I’m just wondering how you determine a pitcher stops competing. I know you are not a reactionary fan………….and IF AJ did quit, then there’s something wrong with him and he’s not someone I want on the team. I just can’t bring myself to say that – I’d rather believe he’s just awful now.

    I don’t think the Yankees will or should try to trade him at this point, so if I am the braintrust, I sit down with this guy and tell him point blank that he either makes changes or they will try to get rid of him – even if it means eating his salary. I tell him that he has to make changes or he will be out of baseball in short order. I don’t think he has to be great next year by any means – he just has to be solid and certainly he can’t pitch like this. AJ cares – I know he’s a good guy – so hopefully this will get through to him.

  111. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2010 at 8:11 pm

    “Maybe Javy wanted to redeem himself so bad that it backfired.”

    Good point.

  112. sunny615 September 29th, 2010 at 8:11 pm

    Yup. I was right. Javy was going to suck tonight.

  113. MG September 29th, 2010 at 8:12 pm

    Vazquez doesn’t have the stuff to win in AAA let alone the National League, American League, or the Mexican League. He’s throwing junk up there without conviction, it is almost as painful to watch him as it must be for him, a good major league starter for many years, to be out on the mound right now.

  114. jackamir September 29th, 2010 at 8:12 pm

    It’s freakin’ Batting Practice. Javy is from Hunger and his pitches are Hangers.

  115. sunny615 September 29th, 2010 at 8:13 pm

    And Pavano was sign for less than half of what AJ is. No way the yanks eat that much $$.

  116. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2010 at 8:13 pm

    Hopefully Joe has Moseley or Mitre warming up.

  117. yanks22 September 29th, 2010 at 8:13 pm

    Wow Javy really sucks!

  118. West Coast Yankee Fan September 29th, 2010 at 8:14 pm

    It is sad to watch him. He shouldn’t be on this team though. One of Cashman’s mistakes.

  119. CR9 September 29th, 2010 at 8:14 pm

    “He stopped competing” No offense, but that’s a nonsensical conspiracy. You, nor anyone else on this forum, can say that Javier – or AJ, etc. – stopped competing.

  120. YankFanCA September 29th, 2010 at 8:14 pm

    The guy is just not able to get it done. It’s gone . . . in the ether.

  121. Niblick September 29th, 2010 at 8:14 pm

    Tor – SLG of 1.333 in this game.

  122. Yankee Trader September 29th, 2010 at 8:14 pm

    I count 8 pitching locks that “deserve” a postseason roster spot. Girardi will have to choose among the rest the overpaid has beens and failures.

    CC, Pettitte, Hughes, Rivera, Wood, Robertson, Joba, Logan

    Is there still time to find someone [pitcher]on waivers and get them on the postseason roster????????

  123. JobaTipsHisCap September 29th, 2010 at 8:14 pm

    Javy got nothing

  124. MG September 29th, 2010 at 8:14 pm

    there is really no reason for Vazquez to be pitching out there, it’s obvious he has nothing and the game is going to be out of reach very shortly if he isn’t pulled, at which time you can put in the Scranton team.

  125. Emily in NJ September 29th, 2010 at 8:14 pm

    “Hopefully Joe has Moseley or Mitre warming up.”

    Did you ever think you’d be saying that at the end of September in the middle of a division race?

  126. sunny615 September 29th, 2010 at 8:15 pm

    And there goes the ball game.

  127. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2010 at 8:15 pm

    Javy is really struggling. I don’t know that he really sucks.

    I think with him it becomes incremental. The worse things are, they worse they get.

  128. Rich in NJ September 29th, 2010 at 8:15 pm

    Whether or not AJ stopped competing, he has been uncompetitive.

    That’s really all that matters.

  129. Cashmoney September 29th, 2010 at 8:15 pm

    Release him after this game ! Let this gentle lad go back to P.R. to start his wine collections early.

  130. DocTodd September 29th, 2010 at 8:15 pm

    Javy Vs The Juice Gang is not a good matchup….

  131. blake September 29th, 2010 at 8:16 pm

    “Blake, I’m just wondering how you determine a pitcher stops competing. I know you are not a reactionary fan………….and IF AJ did quit, then there’s something wrong with him and he’s not someone I want on the team. I just can’t bring myself to say that – I’d rather believe he’s just awful now.”

    I guess a more PC way of saying it is that he just stopped concentrating…I can’t honestly say he “quit” but it certainly appeared that he mentally checked out of that start when things started going bad…you could see it in his body language and by how he was throwing the pitches. That’s unacceptable to me for the amount of money he’s making and what is expected of him.

  132. yanks22 September 29th, 2010 at 8:16 pm

    Get his sorry ass out of the game!

  133. CR9 September 29th, 2010 at 8:16 pm

    oh my goodness, my dear Javier, please can you turn around your season with only a few more weeks remaining?

  134. theREALkevin September 29th, 2010 at 8:16 pm

    Wtf kind of positioning is that

  135. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2010 at 8:16 pm

    “Did you ever think you’d be saying that at the end of September in the middle of a division race?”

    Certainly not in the second inning.

    I think that Joe would be smart to get someone else in the game. But I don’t manage the Yankees.

  136. YankFanCA September 29th, 2010 at 8:16 pm

    Burnett redux

  137. Lou-in-Vermont September 29th, 2010 at 8:16 pm

    Javy and AJ should only pitch in a mopup role in the postseason. You can’t have them start and have any confidence of a win. Go with CC, Phil, and Andy and hope for two days of rain.

  138. sunny615 September 29th, 2010 at 8:17 pm

    Is it Moseley time?

  139. DocTodd September 29th, 2010 at 8:17 pm

    This guy is a Type D free agent…..Disasterous..

  140. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2010 at 8:18 pm

    Wow, Baltimore-Rays scoreless in the 5th.

  141. Laura - I Bleed Blue September 29th, 2010 at 8:18 pm

    Javy and AJ are competing for worst Yankee pitcher honors.

  142. Cashmoney September 29th, 2010 at 8:18 pm

    Type A free agent … Atrocious ! so much fun when Javy supplies the ammunition with his suckitude!

  143. CR9 September 29th, 2010 at 8:18 pm

    What a play by the gold glover!!

  144. RadioKev September 29th, 2010 at 8:19 pm

    Man, watching Javy is kind of sad. This man is competing for a playoff roster spot and this is the best he could do to show Girardi wrong?

  145. Triple Short of a Cycle September 29th, 2010 at 8:19 pm

    To me you go with CC, Andy and Phil in the first round. If they make the second round you give Nova the 4th start and let him go 4 or somewhere in the 5th and piece mail the rest. This is where not having Aceves looms large.

  146. West Coast Yankee Fan September 29th, 2010 at 8:19 pm

    Cashman does not have a great track record bringing pitchers here. It’s easy to throw money at a sure thing like a Sabathia. But Javy will be added to Cashman’s Hall of Shame along Weaver, Brown, Igawa and Pavano.

  147. Lou-in-Vermont September 29th, 2010 at 8:20 pm

    OK, Javy gives up 1 in the 1st and 2 in the 2nd. The question is: is this a geometric progression game for Javy; 1,2, 3, 4, 5…. or 1,2,1,2,1,2…. or exponential: 1,2,4,8…?.

  148. NYY fan in NH September 29th, 2010 at 8:20 pm

    Talk about tanking an important game and throwing this bum out there.. Javy one and done with this team again!

  149. sunny615 September 29th, 2010 at 8:20 pm

    Game down the toilet. Put Moseley in to start the next inning after everyone grounds out.

  150. MG September 29th, 2010 at 8:20 pm

    Girardi has a choice to make very shortly-if he leaves Vazquez in the game the Jays are going to have 5 or 6 runs within the next couple of innings-he can either pull him or just get the position players out of the game in the 5th or 6th when they are down by that many. Cecil is tough on the Yankees and looks like he has good stuff tonight. Tampa is being shut out by Kevin Millwood through 5 although the game is tied so a Yankees win tonight could really help them.

  151. Betsy September 29th, 2010 at 8:20 pm

    Blake, that’s fair and I agree with you completely.

  152. blake September 29th, 2010 at 8:20 pm

    Kevin Millwood is 1 hitting the Rays through 5….but unfortunately Niemann is 2 hitting the O’s through 5 as well.

  153. LGY September 29th, 2010 at 8:20 pm

    That’s Cashman’s judgment. He knew what he was getting in Javy. Pitching in the NL for the Braves is a lot different than pitching here. He had a track record.

    ——————————–

    Saying that New York is the reason Javy sucks this year is not only just ridiculous but it is New York elitism.

    No one could have known he would just completely lose his fastball in one offseason.

  154. blake September 29th, 2010 at 8:22 pm

    Put Brackman in :)

  155. CR9 September 29th, 2010 at 8:22 pm

    Good play by Golson to stand in the way.

  156. LGY September 29th, 2010 at 8:22 pm

    Smart play by Golson

  157. NYY fan in NH September 29th, 2010 at 8:22 pm

    How the Yanks made the playoffs with AJ and Javy in the rotation is beyond me.

  158. Betsy September 29th, 2010 at 8:23 pm

    Yanks can’t hit a change…….Joe might as well remove Javy and bring in Mosely or some other guy who won’t be making the post-season roster. Javy just doesn’t have the stuff to even be out on the mound.

  159. Lou-in-Vermont September 29th, 2010 at 8:23 pm

    Nice grounder Jete. Haven’t seen one of those for awhile.

  160. Triple Short of a Cycle September 29th, 2010 at 8:23 pm

    Every starting pitcher brought to NY in the last 5 or so years except for CC has failed. Not even a small regression but a huge disaster

  161. CR9 September 29th, 2010 at 8:24 pm

    Jerkman would have been getting out of Hill’s way. :)

    Now we have a chance to tie the game with a red hot Tex up.

  162. West Coast Yankee Fan September 29th, 2010 at 8:24 pm

    LGY – I said Cashman knew what he was getting I did not say New York was “the reason” Javy has stunk it up. But, pitching in New York for the Yankees is unlike any other situation for a ballplayer. The media and fans are unforgiving and critical. Some are able to handle it and to thrive and others aren’t. But the most important difference is the American League East.

  163. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2010 at 8:24 pm

    I already said that we should go with CC, Andy and Phil in the first round. Can you stretch Moseley out enough to get him game prepared for the second round? Remember this. AJ has one more start coming. I’d have Posada catch that start for giggles and see if anything changes. If it does and AJ has a good game, then if AJ gets a start in the second series, let Jorge catch him. At some point it’s all hands on deck. I remember a cobbled start in the postseason when Moose came in and pitched some of the middle innings because the starter (can’t remember who – ) had blown up. I think the Yanks ended up winning that game.

  164. Donna L September 29th, 2010 at 8:24 pm

    If this year’s AJ and this year’s Javy pitched a seven game series against each other, who would win it? And how many total runs and home runs would there be?

  165. Laura - I Bleed Blue September 29th, 2010 at 8:25 pm

    “How the Yanks made the playoffs with AJ and Javy in the rotation is beyond me.”

    If those guys had pitched better, we would have had HFA already. TB would be staring up at us!

  166. 108 stitches September 29th, 2010 at 8:25 pm

    I can’t imagine how Cashman can stash both Vazquez and Burnett in the bullpen for salary reasons. It’s a waste of 2 pitchers.
    Any team is supposed to take the 25 players that give their team the best possible chance to win.
    There’s loopholes that Cashman can use such as phantom injuries and Marte on the 60-day DL.

  167. Yankee Trader September 29th, 2010 at 8:25 pm

    We’ve gotten only one pitcher from the Braves who amounted to anything [Mike Stanton] and one TBD [Boone Logan]. Chris Hammond, Kyle Farnsworth, Jaret Wright, now Javy Vazquez-any others?

  168. Betsy September 29th, 2010 at 8:25 pm

    People that hate Cash just will not look at this from a realistic perspective. In 2004, Javy was hurt – just because fans think that year was all on Javy does not make it so. Javy had a lot of supporters in that clubhouse and those who are still on this team were very happy to have him back. He was only going to be the #4 pitcher, a solid guy that would allow Phil to have his growing pains in relative peace and quiet. Not one baseball expert, even those who thought the Yankees gave up a lot, thought this would happen to him. This is not about NY, this is about not having the stuff to compete.

  169. Rich in NJ September 29th, 2010 at 8:26 pm

    Javy must be trying to suck. No one besides AJ can be this bad.

    /sarcasm

  170. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2010 at 8:26 pm

    “Kevin Millwood is 1 hitting the Rays through 5….but unfortunately Niemann is 2 hitting the O’s through 5 as well.”

    Wow, that has to be Millwood’s best start of the season!

  171. Betsy September 29th, 2010 at 8:26 pm

    I don’t think Logan is TBD; he’s been very good for a long time now

  172. Rich in NJ September 29th, 2010 at 8:26 pm

    I have a partial mancrush for Cash. But I was against this trade on the day it was made.

  173. sunny615 September 29th, 2010 at 8:27 pm

    Three groundouts. I’m a genius.

  174. West Coast Yankee Fan September 29th, 2010 at 8:27 pm

    It just angers me as a fan that we are in this position. We should have won this division going away, Tampa has not had a great second half to say the least.

  175. Betsy September 29th, 2010 at 8:27 pm

    I can’t get upset at all about the game………although it would be nice if the Yankees could hit a little.

  176. MG September 29th, 2010 at 8:27 pm

    Vazquez has lost almost 3 mph on his fastball in the past 2 years, he doesn’t have the kind of pinpoint command someone like Mussina had to make the adjustment on the fly. Now he just looks lost out there.

    It’s one thing to not enjoy watching him pitch but quite another to read some of the insults that have been posted tonight. This guy is a professional, he’s doing the best he can, it’s just not nearly good enough and it’s on the manager if he gets pounded from here on.

  177. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2010 at 8:27 pm

    “How the Yanks made the playoffs with AJ and Javy in the rotation is beyond me.”

    Credit to the manager keeping a million balls in the air at once.

  178. LGY September 29th, 2010 at 8:27 pm

    “LGY – I said Cashman knew what he was getting I did not say New York was “the reason” Javy has stunk it up. But, pitching in New York for the Yankees is unlike any other situation for a ballplayer. The media and fans are unforgiving and critical. Some are able to handle it and to thrive and others aren’t. But the most important difference is the American League East.”

    ——————————-

    He did know what he was getting.

    He thought he was getting an elite innings eater and strikeout artist coming off a Cy Young caliber season.

    If you are not saying New York is the reason, what exactly are you inferring?

    It was a great trade and very well thought out plan by Cashman. It not only avoided having to put Joba in the rotation but was a buffer against the high workloads + injury risk of CC, AJ, and Andy from pitching deep into October last year.

    Cashman actually had great foresight in this case.

    Andy missed 2 months and Javy was supposed to be a great buffer against that exact type of scenario.

  179. Yankee Trader September 29th, 2010 at 8:28 pm

    The Braves actually wanted to rid themselves of Derek Lowe!

  180. Betsy September 29th, 2010 at 8:28 pm

    The Yankees had plenty of chances to put the division away – they’ve been incredibly inconsistent offensively. There’s no way I can say they should have done this or they should have done that……….

  181. Rich in NJ September 29th, 2010 at 8:28 pm

    Joe Carter’s shirt is kind of green.

  182. West Coast Yankee Fan September 29th, 2010 at 8:29 pm

    Betsy – thousands of Yanke fans were against the Javy signing and accurately predicted this. You know that’s true.

  183. CR9 September 29th, 2010 at 8:29 pm

    In addition to being excellent at the plate since coming off the DL, Alex has also had a bit more range on defense.

  184. Frozen Rope September 29th, 2010 at 8:30 pm

    lol the dumb blue jays network was interviewing carter right when he caught that foul ball

  185. CR9 September 29th, 2010 at 8:30 pm

    “Credit to the manager keeping a million balls in the air at once.”

    Yep! Somehow, all the blame falls on Girardi, but none of the credit. Such is life, I guess :(

  186. Cashman needs to go September 29th, 2010 at 8:30 pm

    blake September 29th, 2010 at 7:56 pm
    ?what happened to Vasquez from last year to this year? ?

    he lost 3-4 MPH on his fastball and hasn?t been able to adjust to it.

    *****

    The american league or the man can’t pitch on the big stage..take your pick

  187. Captain Clutch September 29th, 2010 at 8:31 pm

    Girardi and co will have some tough decisions to make for the 2 extra pitchers on the roster. Gaudin, Vazquez, Nova and Moseley are all bad options. I like Moseley the best out of all of the options . If Nova didn’t fall apart every start he would be a good option but he can’t pitch out of the stretch so he is out. I really think Girardi will take Vazquez because he is a “veteran”.

  188. LGY September 29th, 2010 at 8:31 pm

    Not one Yankee fan accurately predicted Javy completely losing his fastball.

    Not one.

  189. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2010 at 8:31 pm

    “It just angers me as a fan that we are in this position. We should have won this division going away, Tampa has not had a great second half to say the least.”

    Tampa fans probably saying the same thing about the Yankees.

    You play the cards youre dealt. Be thankful your team is in the postseason rather than angry they haven’t won the division,

  190. sunny615 September 29th, 2010 at 8:31 pm

    Arod needs one more homer to make it an MLB record 14 seasons in a row to hit 30 homers and 100 RBI.

  191. West Coast Yankee Fan September 29th, 2010 at 8:31 pm

    LGY it was not a great trade. Many Yankee fans accurately predicted that Javy’s success in Atlanta would not translate in to anything close in the AL East. You’re entitled to your opinion, but New York does make a difference. Some can’t deal with it. Pavano is a perfect example.

  192. blake September 29th, 2010 at 8:31 pm

    Had the Yankees gotten the Javier Vazquez that was in Atlanta last year as they thought they were, then things would have been fine. Everything is clearer in hindsight.

  193. Yankee Trader September 29th, 2010 at 8:31 pm

    If you’re watching the game Javy and Jeter just met at the mound. I’m a pretty decent lip reader and I believe Javy said to Jeter “Will I be on the post season roster?” Jeter, while walking away, muttered “Not a chance!”

  194. CR9 September 29th, 2010 at 8:32 pm

    # LGY September 29th, 2010 at 8:31 pm

    Not one Yankee fan accurately predicted Javy completely losing his fastball.

    Not one.

    ___

    Darn it. I could have! And if he had been at 97mph, I would have.

    When Randy Johnson came to us, he dropped from 97mph the prior year to 94mph with us.

  195. sunny615 September 29th, 2010 at 8:33 pm

    A sign of the apocalypse. A scoreless inning for Javy.

  196. blake September 29th, 2010 at 8:33 pm

    “The american league or the man can’t pitch on the big stage..take your pick”

    Neither the American league or the big stage make you throw slower.

  197. LGY September 29th, 2010 at 8:33 pm

    WCYF,

    Saying NY makes a difference does not prove anything. It is just a baseless claim resulting from ego of many NY fans.

    You actually have to back that up with some evidence of WHY pitching in NY is resulting in the specific problem Javy is having.

  198. Cashmoney September 29th, 2010 at 8:33 pm

    in 2008, Javy’s fb avg 91.9 for entire season , he imploded with that arsenal with chisox and in AL which is better than his 2009 91.2 avg.

    NL offense and friendly home field played a significant part to his success in 09 ,I had to believe.

  199. MG September 29th, 2010 at 8:33 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2010 at 8:27 pm
    “How the Yanks made the playoffs with AJ and Javy in the rotation is beyond me.”

    Credit to the manager keeping a million balls in the air at once.
    —————————————-
    how about having the other 3 starter having a cumulative record of 49-18 with Andy missing 2 months, that keeps most of those balls on the ground.

  200. Rich in NJ September 29th, 2010 at 8:34 pm

    “Not one Yankee fan accurately predicted Javy completely losing his fastball.

    Not one.”

    I don’t see that as being a necessary reason to oppose the trade.

    I didn’t want to trade Vizcaino for a one year rental.

  201. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2010 at 8:34 pm

    One of the few points I agree with made by the west coast disgruntler. Not everyone can play in the Bronx. We’ve seen it time and again,

  202. Betsy September 29th, 2010 at 8:35 pm

    LGY, exactly so. Sometimes good decisions turn bad – and that’s what happend. It’s awful luck for the Yankees………It’s going to be very interesting to see what the Yankees do with their rotation in 2011.

  203. CR9 September 29th, 2010 at 8:35 pm

    “west coast disgruntler” :lol:

  204. Captain Clutch September 29th, 2010 at 8:35 pm

    It’s amazing how a pitcher with a changeup completely shuts these guys down.

  205. jacksquat September 29th, 2010 at 8:35 pm

    West Coast Yankee FanSeptember 29th, 2010 at 8:29 pmBetsy – thousands of Yanke fans were against the Javy signing and accurately predicted this. You know that’s true.

    Zero fans accurately predicted this, because they were all idiots who said things like “Javy can’t pitch in New York” or “Javy doesn’t have heart” or BS like that. Not one fan predicted that Javy would lose so much velocity and command so quickly.

    And it’s his lack of command that has hurt him, not the velocity. Many pitchers are succesful with 89-90 mph fastballs.

  206. Betsy September 29th, 2010 at 8:36 pm

    WC, I don’t care about thousands of YF – those fans just irrationally blamed Javy for 2004. I don’t think any ONE of them thought he would physically fall apart; they just didn’t want him on the team.

  207. Betsy September 29th, 2010 at 8:36 pm

    happened

  208. CR9 September 29th, 2010 at 8:36 pm

    Betsy – Here’s what I think LGY is saying. And I agree with it.

    Sometimes, you have the look at the decision and the results separately.

    In this case, the decision to trade nothing for a 93 mph Javier Vazquez was a good one.

    The results, however, have not been good.

  209. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2010 at 8:36 pm

    And by ther way, Brett Cecil is no cake walk. Would it have been better to waste Andy when Andy needed the rest so that maybe Andy could have taken the loss? Brett Cecil kicks major butt.

  210. LGY September 29th, 2010 at 8:36 pm

    Rich,

    I know.

    That point was addressing the people who thought the trade was awful because he couldn’t hack it in NY.

    I know your affinity for prospects and why you were against that trade, which is a completely legitimate reason ;)

  211. Rich in NJ September 29th, 2010 at 8:36 pm

    Here’s my 2011 rotation:

    CC
    Lee
    Hughes
    Pettitte
    Nova/Joba

  212. Niblick September 29th, 2010 at 8:36 pm

    Javy has a lifetime ERA+ of 106 in the NL; 100 in the AL.

    He has demonstrated throughout his long career that he is an AVERAGE pitcher. That’s all. Anyone who expected more than that is a fool.

  213. Yankee Trader September 29th, 2010 at 8:37 pm

    Unless the Rays tank, the only decent pitcher they face in KC is Greinke. The others Davies, Chen and O’Sullivan will be like facing batting practice. The Yankees face Buchholz, Lackey and Matsuzaka. Do we really want to go in being the wild card and facing the Twins instead of home field advantage facing the Rangers?

  214. Captain Clutch September 29th, 2010 at 8:37 pm

    If AJ and Vazquez were even decent this year the team could have like 105 wins. Vazquez was good for like 5 starts in a row and then they got nothing from him and AJ was just awful.

  215. blake September 29th, 2010 at 8:37 pm

    Most people thought there would be some regression from Javy’s 2009 season due to the league switch but his season this year has gone beyond that….he’s not as good as he was last year and that’s more to do with velocity, location, etc than it is to do with the AL east. If you put Javy back in Atlanta this year then he likely would have struggled there as well.

  216. MG September 29th, 2010 at 8:37 pm

    Betsy, the Yankees rotation for 2011 is pretty easy-they will sign Lee, Hughes will be one year older, Burnett can’t possibly be as bad next year as this (he must be having some personal issues to account for the way he’s pitched since June). If Andy comes back that’s it, if not, they’ll either package some young pitching for a proven major league starter or give Nova or one of the other kids a shot, they can always pick someone up at the trade deadline if needed.

  217. Betsy September 29th, 2010 at 8:37 pm

    Boy, I wouldn’t do that at all Rich………….

  218. Cashmoney September 29th, 2010 at 8:38 pm

    in 2008 Javy left 68 percent runners on base, in 09, an astounding 76.6 percent was LOB , I have to believe the weak bottom third in NL has lot to do with that.

    His 4.84 era in 2008 despite better peripherals, which he almost had it all his career is more of an indication how he will fare in AL again. When you consider the better competition of AL East , this does not come as a big surprise combine with his spotty record in pennant race.

    of course, he is also throwing with nothing ball now.

  219. LGY September 29th, 2010 at 8:38 pm

    League average ERA with 200 innings would have been absolutely fantastic for this ballclub.

  220. RSM September 29th, 2010 at 8:38 pm

    Javy’s problem is not NY, it’s his lost velocity.

  221. blake September 29th, 2010 at 8:38 pm

    Rich,

    I like that rotation..

  222. sunny615 September 29th, 2010 at 8:39 pm

    If the Yanks can’t win a game against Cecil, they’re going to have a really hard time against Cliff Lee, Colby Lewis and CJ Wilson. Or Liriano, Duensing and Pavano.

  223. JobaTipsHisCap September 29th, 2010 at 8:39 pm

    Don’t use Javy in playoff.

    He can book his vacation now. You gonna love free money.

  224. LGY September 29th, 2010 at 8:39 pm

    Vazquez had a 2.77 FIP in 2009 a a 3.74 FIP in 2008.

  225. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2010 at 8:40 pm

    0-0 in the 7th inning. Still a one-hitter for Westbrook. 2 hitter for Neimann.

    I’m switching to that game. Plenty of time to finish watching this one when that one is over.

  226. Bret The Hitman September 29th, 2010 at 8:40 pm

    The Javier Vaquez who pitched with the Expos would’ve been absolutely fantastic for this ballclub too.

  227. JobaTipsHisCap September 29th, 2010 at 8:40 pm

    Andy in 2011? even if he comes back, that’s a losing strategy.

  228. G-C September 29th, 2010 at 8:40 pm

    Cano has really kinda semi collapsed.

    OPS down to .901.

    He’s really not outpacing his numbers by last year at all anymore.

  229. Betsy September 29th, 2010 at 8:41 pm

    MG, I don’t want to assume Lee is signing here because I’m not sure how far the Yankees will go to outbid a Texas team that is desperately trying to keep him. However, let’s say he does:

    I know we disagree on this, but I still wonder about Phil and the effects the workload this year will have on him. Will his stuff return to how it was earlier in the season or will he have a Verlander type of year? That’s TBD. I am not predicting he will struggle, but young pitchers do tend to do that after the biggest workloads of their careers.

    I agree about AJ.

    Andy – because of his health/age, though, I have some concerns.

    I definitely go for the solid veteran at the back end; I can’t go with a kid.

  230. Bret The Hitman September 29th, 2010 at 8:41 pm

    Gammons was comparing Expo Javy to Pedro Martinez.

  231. MG September 29th, 2010 at 8:41 pm

    Vazquez pitched very well for a couple of months, mostly against weaker teams but his stuff is so far below that level he’d have a difficult time beating even minor leaguers right now. It’s got nothing to do with ‘pitching in New York’, not handling the pressure, or anything else other than he has nothing out on the mound.

  232. LGY September 29th, 2010 at 8:41 pm

    The White Sox had a -26.6 OF UZR in 2008.

    Not a good combination with a fly ball pitcher like Javy.

  233. CR9 September 29th, 2010 at 8:41 pm

    Gammons also compared Casey Kelly to Greg Maddux…

  234. Emily in NJ September 29th, 2010 at 8:41 pm

    I feel it’s worth mentioning that not all of AJ/Javy’s losses were complete blowouts. It seems like CC/Andy/Hughes got more run support in some (not all) of their games. and I also think that even with the stacked line up they have been inconsistent with RISP… Which doesn’t help..

  235. Cashmoney September 29th, 2010 at 8:42 pm

    Gammons was comparing Expo Javy to Pedro Martinez.
    ——————
    is he speaking result or stuff wise?

  236. Betsy September 29th, 2010 at 8:42 pm

    Blake, you really think Joba has shown that he can be a starter? He’s very iffy in my book, even as a reliever.

  237. Yankee Trader September 29th, 2010 at 8:43 pm

    Here’s my 2011 rotation:

    CC
    Lee
    Hughes
    Pettitte
    Nova/Joba

    Rich-

    Sounds great, but who did we trade AJ and his limited NTC too, and what onerous contract did we take in return.

    In regards to trading for Vazquez, it was a good one year option, as the Braves wanted to dump the rest of Lowe’s contract/years instead.

  238. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2010 at 8:43 pm

    Orioles lead 2-0

  239. jackamir September 29th, 2010 at 8:43 pm

    2-0 Orioles

  240. BBFan September 29th, 2010 at 8:44 pm

    “People that hate Cash just will not look at this from a realistic perspective.”

    Same thing applies to the people who hate Girardi.

  241. Cashman needs to go September 29th, 2010 at 8:44 pm

    LGY September 29th, 2010 at 8:31 pm
    Not one Yankee fan accurately predicted Javy completely losing his fastball.

    Not one.

    *****************

    but thousands of yankee fans predicted that this loser would be terrible once again pitching with the yankees –

    heres 2 great signs his balls shrivel up and he soils his diaper pitching with the yankees..after giving up the hr to buck and double to whomever the next batter was (i think the 9th place hitter) he wilds pitch him to 3rd – is his last appearnace against the rays he HIT 3 BATTERS IN A ROW – losing 3 mph on your fastball is one thing totally losing it because you can’t hack it with the big boys is another thing….

    and shame on cashman for not realizing this and wasting 12 million dollars – while nickel and diming matsui and damon – proven winners…

  242. syd_cash September 29th, 2010 at 8:44 pm

    its comforting to see that TB can’t beat Baltimore either

  243. Betsy September 29th, 2010 at 8:44 pm

    Maybe if Joe would rest Cano a bit – he really has tailed off.

    Another player who I’m not quite sold on is Gardner because he’s not had a good 2nd half at all.

  244. MG September 29th, 2010 at 8:44 pm

    I feel like the Yankees have wasted Chamberlain’s season and set him back from developing as a pitcher. He’s been really mediocre and another pitcher could have easily filled his role at least as effectively. He should have been at Scranton learning how to pitch and getting in good shape.

  245. sunny615 September 29th, 2010 at 8:45 pm

    If the yanks are trying to win the division, they’ve got me fooled with the way they’re playing tonight.

  246. LGY September 29th, 2010 at 8:45 pm

    “but thousands of yankee fans predicted that this loser would be terrible once again pitching with the yankees – ”

    ——————————-

    And they all would have looked stupid if Javy had not lost his fastball.

  247. Bret The Hitman September 29th, 2010 at 8:45 pm

    Cashmoney,

    Back when Javy was pitching with the Expos, Gammons was comparing him to Pedro Martinez. He said Javy had the potential to have the same dominant stuff. He was hoping the Sox would acquire him but the Yanks beat them to it. Gammons was devastated. It was like a funeral on the ESPN set.

  248. theREALkevin September 29th, 2010 at 8:46 pm

    2-0 curveball to aaron hill lol

  249. Yankee Trader September 29th, 2010 at 8:46 pm

    Emily-

    Your’e right. At one point Javy was only getting 3.71 run support/game as of late July while Hughes was getting 7.28 run support.

  250. Betsy September 29th, 2010 at 8:46 pm

    Duensening has had a good year………..though he hasn’t made that many starts. The Twins rotation is formidable………..so is the Rangers.

  251. NYY fan in NH September 29th, 2010 at 8:46 pm

    we are getting last weeks version of the Yanks tonight.. Sure they clinched and it was all glory, but there are the same old problems with the offense.

  252. CR9 September 29th, 2010 at 8:46 pm

    In the spirit of MGs last post about Joba, aside from losing him out of the bullpen, he could have pitched in the starting rotation in place of a combination of AJ and/or Javier starts. And he could have just failed and tried to learn. He may have even done better than either Javy or AJ.

  253. syd_cash September 29th, 2010 at 8:46 pm

    Cashman needs to go September 29th, 2010 at 8:44 pm
    LGY September 29th, 2010 at 8:31 pm
    Not one Yankee fan accurately predicted Javy completely losing his fastball.

    Not one.

    *****************

    but thousands of yankee fans predicted that this loser would be terrible once again pitching with the yankees –

    ———

    Exactly if someone sucks the first time why would you get them again. Besides just because you can pitch well in the NL doesn’t mean you will suceed in the NL….because AL hitters are tougher then the NL ones with pitchers batting and all.

  254. MG September 29th, 2010 at 8:47 pm

    Girardi needs to pull Vazquez very shortly before the game is virtually out of hand.

  255. blake September 29th, 2010 at 8:47 pm

    Betsy,

    I’d have another competition for the 5th spot and let Joba in the mix….that’s all. If he wins the spot then so be it. My money would be on Nova or someone else though. I doubt we’ll ever see Joba start again in a Yankee uniform but he still would hold much more value doing that than throwing the 7th or 8th inning so I don’t see it hurting anything for him to prepare over the winter for that and see how it goes….

    Of course if Andy comes back and they can’t move AJ then its a non issue.

  256. LGY September 29th, 2010 at 8:47 pm

    If AJ continues to pitch this poorly in 2011 you have to take him out of the rotation if you don’t trade him.

    If the Yankees had replaced AJ when he started to suck this year with Nova they would likely be in first place right now.

  257. CR9 September 29th, 2010 at 8:47 pm

    LGY -

    Sometimes, you have the look at the decision and the results separately.

    In this case, the decision to trade nothing for a 93 mph Javier Vazquez was a good one.

    The results, however, have not been good.

    Agree?

  258. LGY September 29th, 2010 at 8:48 pm

    CR9,

    Of course.

    The results have been abysmal.

  259. RadioKev September 29th, 2010 at 8:48 pm

    I hope those prospects we gave up for Javy don’t turn into being great. Cashman had some good trades this season, but that wasn’t one of them.

    The real question: which deal was worse? Signing Johnson over a potentially returning Matsui or Damon, or trading for Javier Vazquez?

  260. blake September 29th, 2010 at 8:48 pm

    Yankees really need to try and win this game with the Orioles winning.

  261. Niblick September 29th, 2010 at 8:49 pm

    All this criticism of Cano and Gardner is ridiculous. They’re not why this team is struggling. If Jeter, Arod and Tex had hit up to their ability (or at least consistent with their past performance), they could all be on the bench relaxing today. But they all had crappy years, at least relative to their ability and previous history.

  262. Captain Clutch September 29th, 2010 at 8:49 pm

    I am surprised that Arod is only hitting .209 against lefties this year. I don’t remember him ever having such a big problem with them before. They are going to face 2 lefty starters in the 1st round and that will probably be a problem for them. Especially if they face Texas since they never hit Lee and he will start 2 games in the series, if it gets that far.

  263. LGY September 29th, 2010 at 8:49 pm

    Although Boone Logan has been an important piece to this team especially with Marte out.

    That result was good! :)

  264. jackamir September 29th, 2010 at 8:49 pm

    This has to be Javy’s last inning. Adios amigo don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

  265. MG September 29th, 2010 at 8:49 pm

    Vazquez’ average fastball last year was 91.7, this year it’s 88+. Right now, though, he can’t throw a fastball through a tissue, it just has no life whatsoever even when it hits 88-89, as it does sometimes.

  266. NYY fan in NH September 29th, 2010 at 8:50 pm

    Javy will never be a “Yankee” IMO. He’s failed more than succeeded and I can’t remember him every winning a big game to enshrine him as a Yankee..

  267. Cashmoney September 29th, 2010 at 8:50 pm

    I find amazing ppl still believe Javy is not effected by pressure and has the propensity to crack in the big spot with an ample body of evidence before them.

    EVERYONE is effected by pressures in some way or another. There is not a curse word in Javy’s case, it’s the simple fact that the man crumble in every pennant race he was involved in.

    Combine with other variables , Javy makes a poor dependent choice for a pennant contender.

  268. YankeeBlue222 September 29th, 2010 at 8:50 pm

    Look at the positives from tonight.

    It’s the LAST time we’ll ever see Javy pitch in a Yankees uniform! :)

    I hated bringing him back this season (I knew his #’s were a product of the weak NL) and he did nothing to change my opinion of him. Good riddance. Enjoy pitching for the Cardinals next year!

  269. theREALkevin September 29th, 2010 at 8:50 pm

    Lol the twins and rangers rotations are “formidable”??? That makes me laugh

  270. blake September 29th, 2010 at 8:50 pm

    “If the Yankees had replaced AJ when he started to suck this year with Nova they would likely be in first place right now.”

    yup

  271. Rich in NJ September 29th, 2010 at 8:50 pm

    YT

    “Sounds great, but who did we trade AJ and his limited NTC too, and what onerous contract did we take in return.:

    I would put AJ in the pen. If he doesn’t like it, he can instruct his agent to rescind the contract. IOW, the Yankees should play hardball.

  272. Cashmoney September 29th, 2010 at 8:50 pm

    Javy is a choker by simple facts!

  273. CR9 September 29th, 2010 at 8:50 pm

    LGY -

    See, many people fail to distinguish between the action/decision and the results.

    For example, if Nick Johnson had played the whole year and had a .400 OBP with 120+ walks, the results would have been good.

    However, the decision to sign him – with his injury prone past – would have been bad.

  274. MG September 29th, 2010 at 8:51 pm

    blake September 29th, 2010 at 8:48 pm
    Yankees really need to try and win this game with the Orioles winning
    ———————————
    Blake, as always, we are on the same page with this one, I can’t believe Girardi is leaving Vazquez out there.

  275. syd_cash September 29th, 2010 at 8:51 pm

    if Javy is hurt….that is a good excuse to leave him off of the playoff roster

  276. Bronx Jeers September 29th, 2010 at 8:51 pm

    Would they even notice if he was pitching injured? :wink:

  277. blake September 29th, 2010 at 8:51 pm

    That was a very nice play by Javy.

  278. LGY September 29th, 2010 at 8:51 pm

    All Javy was brought here to do was be a 4th starter.

    Do you guys know what a 4th starter typically produces?

    “Regular” Javy would have been a great 4th starter and really helped this particular team with all the innings he soaks up.

    If 2009 Cy Young candidate Javy showed up, then that would have just been a whole lot of icing on the cake.

  279. Betsy September 29th, 2010 at 8:51 pm

    Blake, I just don’t feel comfortable at all with another kid, be it Joba or Nova, in the rotation if Andy doesn’t return or AJ is gone (highly, highly unlikely). I’ve never been a Joba fan, but a part of me thinks the Yankees gave up on him as a SP too soon. That said, it’s not the Yankees job to kick start Joba; if he’s professionally unmotivated, that’s on him

  280. RadioKev September 29th, 2010 at 8:52 pm

    blake September 29th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
    “If the Yankees had replaced AJ when he started to suck this year with Nova they would likely be in first place right now.”

    yup

    Oh yeah, because Nova has been so great.

  281. Cashmoney September 29th, 2010 at 8:52 pm

    Joe needs to leave this loser in for a complete game and take out his A team.

  282. CR9 September 29th, 2010 at 8:53 pm

    “Oh yeah, because Nova has been so great.”

    LOL! How true!

  283. LGY September 29th, 2010 at 8:53 pm

    “Oh yeah, because Nova has been so great.”

    —————————————–

    AJ has been below (I believe well below) replacement level since May 9th.

    Nova is better than a replacement level pitcher.

  284. blake September 29th, 2010 at 8:53 pm

    MG,

    he’s teetering and you’re right, the game may not last much longer at this rate. Realistically the Yankees need to win this game to have much of a shot at the division….you really can’t plan on a sweep at Fenway, especially with the Yankees likely resting people throughout the series.

  285. West Coast Yankee Fan September 29th, 2010 at 8:53 pm

    Believe what you want. As I said many Yankee fans knew Vazquez was a bad move.

  286. Betsy September 29th, 2010 at 8:54 pm

    I simply can’t assume Nova would have been great or even good or solid over the course of a long season just because he’s shown promise. Phil has had his struggles – and so would Nova. I have no problem with the Yankees not pulling AJ permanently from the rotation, but they probably should have done what they did with Javy…………temporarily. The difference is, they thought AJ’s stuff was fine and Javy’s was suffering.

  287. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2010 at 8:54 pm

    “If the Yanks can’t win a game against Cecil, they’re going to have a really hard time against Cliff Lee, Colby Lewis and CJ Wilson. Or Liriano, Duensing and Pavano.”

    Seriously? They’ve lost 3 to Cecil and haven’t won any.

    I get it! Because there’s a pitcher on the Jays who has their number, they wont be able to beat any Texas or Minny pitchers!!! Good thinking.

  288. Cashmoney September 29th, 2010 at 8:54 pm

    Believe what you want. As I said many Yankee fans knew Vazquez was a bad move.
    —————————-
    count me in as one, along with Ho Ho park!

  289. CR9 September 29th, 2010 at 8:54 pm

    Nice job by Vazquez to keep us semi-in-the-game.

  290. theREALkevin September 29th, 2010 at 8:55 pm

    Enough about javys velocity. He’s around 90 tonight that’s good enough. He has at least two other plus pitches. He could easily keep guys off balance with fastball around 90, good change, good curve. His location and command has just been terrible this season. Using the diminished velocity excuse, that’s all it is, an excuse.

  291. LGY September 29th, 2010 at 8:55 pm

    Replacement level pitchers are awful.

    Replacement level pitchers are basically AAAA players or middling prospects in Scranton.

    Nova is not that, while Burnett has been worse than that.

  292. blake September 29th, 2010 at 8:55 pm

    “Oh yeah, because Nova has been so great.”

    AJ Burnett is having the worst full season for a Yankee starter in the history of the franchise. No Yankee starter has ever had 15 losses with an ERA over 5….yea Nova has been better than that.

  293. RSM September 29th, 2010 at 8:55 pm

    Javy goes out there and battles his a$$ off despite having diminished stuff. Not once has he shied away from a start. In fact, he is irritated when Girardi won’t use him. He easily could have feigned injury to save himself the embarrassment and still collected the same paycheck (like Pavano did). That doesn’t sound like someone afraid to pitch in NY.
    IMO Javy has more guts in his pinky than AJ or Joba have in their whole useless bodies. It’s too bad his loss of velocity has neutralized his fastball.
    His problem is physical, not mental.

  294. RadioKev September 29th, 2010 at 8:55 pm

    And that’s not meant to knock Nova. He’s been decent for his first call up, but he’s clearly not a polished major league pitcher – he’s just potential. He hasn’t even shown the amount of success Joba did during his first run as a starting pitcher.

    So let’s stop penning him in the rotation for 2011. Just wait and see.

  295. Captain Clutch September 29th, 2010 at 8:55 pm

    Alba is warming up and I doubt he will be able to keep this game at 4-0.

  296. Ace September 29th, 2010 at 8:55 pm

    Keep javy far away from october

  297. YankeeBlue222 September 29th, 2010 at 8:56 pm

    Dang…I just turned it on ABC to watch “Modern Family” (a hilarious show) and saw Nick Swisher’s fiance on the show that is currently on. She is fine!

  298. tyanksfan36 September 29th, 2010 at 8:56 pm

    The Yankees have not done well against Cecil this season, they’ve seen him I think every series and I don’t think they have beat him. It seems that trend continues tonight

  299. Betsy September 29th, 2010 at 8:56 pm

    Brick wall, lol.

    It’s not like the Yankees are hitting anyway. This is why I find it hard to work up any confidence in them. Even if we assume that our SP will be good, you still have to hit. I admit I’m not expecting them to get out of the ALDS…….

  300. LGY September 29th, 2010 at 8:56 pm

    “Believe what you want. As I said many Yankee fans knew Vazquez was a bad move.”

    —————————–

    Because “Yankee fans” have such a great track record in regard to personal moves :roll:

  301. CR9 September 29th, 2010 at 8:57 pm

    “Because “Yankee fans” have such a great track record in regard to personal moves ” LOL! The same Yankees fans that didnt want Curtis Granderson :)

  302. jackamir September 29th, 2010 at 8:57 pm

    4 inn.= 4 runs —I’ve seen enough. Javy sayonara. If you want to pitch next year it should be in JAPAN!!!!!!!

  303. Cashmoney September 29th, 2010 at 8:57 pm

    Release Javy NOW!

  304. West Coast Yankee Fan September 29th, 2010 at 8:58 pm

    theREALkevin
    September 29th, 2010 at 8:55 pm

    Enough about javys velocity. He’s around 90 tonight that’s good enough. He has at least two other plus pitches. He could easily keep guys off balance with fastball around 90, good change, good curve. His location and command has just been terrible this season. Using the diminished velocity excuse, that’s all it is, an excuse.

    ***********

    You are clearly a knowledgeable baseball fan Kevin, you are right on the money. As a matter of fact Javy’s lifetime fastball velocity is 91.3 mph. Command is the difference.

  305. LGY September 29th, 2010 at 8:59 pm

    It is funny that West Coast Disgruntler can remember how he felt about the Vazquez trade when it was made, but he mysteriously can’t remember how he felt about the Granderson trade…

    Hmmm…

  306. Cashmoney September 29th, 2010 at 8:59 pm

    More excuses , more Velo BS with this loser, what happened in 2008 when he exploded down the stretch. What has he ever done in the a big spot , nil , zilch , big goose egg !

  307. CR9 September 29th, 2010 at 9:00 pm

    Release Granderson NOW! Oh wait….

    I really hope that Vazquez does something so important in the postseason to stick it in all of your faces. i.e. a Mike Mussina 2003 Game 7-like bullpen outing.

  308. Bronx Jeers September 29th, 2010 at 9:00 pm

    Golson’s had some good swings in his limited AB’s.

    He’s not going to knock one out but is Kearns?

    They’re actually equal when it comes to postseason stats. :wink:

  309. blake September 29th, 2010 at 9:00 pm

    “He’s around 90 tonight that’s good enough. ”

    He’s touching 90….he was pitching at 91-92 last season and touching 93 or so…..location has been a problem for him as well and he’s had a tough time staying on top of the ball all season….so it’s a combination of things but the velocity drop is certainly a factor and a significant one. He’s not getting away with as many mistakes because his command has improved to compensate for it.

  310. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2010 at 9:00 pm

    And the Yankees have beaten Liriano, and Duesning twice.

  311. Tom in N.J. September 29th, 2010 at 9:00 pm

    Vazquez’s ERA as a starter: 5.30

    A.J.’s ERA: 5.33

    Average A.L. starting pitcher ERA: 4.28

  312. Cashmoney September 29th, 2010 at 9:00 pm

    Hey kevin , wassup ! I am knee deep in Javy rant :) I did not notice ya.

  313. LGY September 29th, 2010 at 9:01 pm

    Javier Vazquez’s average fastball velocity is 89.01 tonight.

    On the season his average fastball velocity is 89.0

    /fact check

  314. Betsy September 29th, 2010 at 9:01 pm

    They’ve both been hideous………….

  315. 108 stitches September 29th, 2010 at 9:01 pm

    Top of the 8th. Orioles still on top 2-0.

  316. Rich in NJ September 29th, 2010 at 9:01 pm

    Cervelli has hit a lot better since I completely gave up on him.

  317. Captain Clutch September 29th, 2010 at 9:01 pm

    Golson has hit the ball really hard recently. I would rather see him in LF against a lefty instead of Kearns. Kearns is going to strike out in every at bat against Liriano/Lee and his defense isn’t good enough to risk putting him out there.

  318. MG September 29th, 2010 at 9:02 pm

    of course it’s a combination of velocity and command for Vazquez. If he had Mussina or Maddux command he could pitch effectively at 85-86. He has never had that kind of command so needs the higher velocity to get by, just like Burnett can’t get by at 92 consistently because his command is even worse than Vazquez’

  319. ac1 September 29th, 2010 at 9:02 pm

    tampa and minny are losing. yankees will no doubt get the tying run up at some point tonight, they need to strike.

  320. West Coast Yankee Fan September 29th, 2010 at 9:02 pm

    And his career average is 91.3 – big difference huh? (rolling eyes)

  321. Cashmoney September 29th, 2010 at 9:02 pm

    Javier Vazquez’s avg fb is 91.6 in 08
    Javier Vazquez’s avg fb is 91.2 in 09

    / fact check as well.

  322. Rich in NJ September 29th, 2010 at 9:03 pm

    “Alba is warming up…”

    Reading this made me happy, and then I realized who you were really talking about.

  323. LGY September 29th, 2010 at 9:03 pm

    “what happened in 2008 when he exploded down the stretch. What has he ever done in the a big spot , nil , zilch , big goose egg !”

    ——————————

    2008 Javier Vazquez

    Pre All Star Break: 4.61 ERA

    Post All Start Break: 4.74 ERA

  324. CR9 September 29th, 2010 at 9:03 pm

    That was strike 3. Go and sit down Swish. No need to argue that.

  325. Cashmoney September 29th, 2010 at 9:03 pm

    Get this loser out of a Yankee uniform after the game tonight ! Don’t let him be remotely close to a playoff bound team!

  326. NYY fan in NH September 29th, 2010 at 9:03 pm

    Bad Swisher there.. Big out!

  327. blake September 29th, 2010 at 9:04 pm

    “And his career average is 91.3 – big difference huh? (rolling eyes)”

    Yes 2 MPH is a big difference when your command is the same or worse than it was when you were averaging 91.

  328. Benny Blanco September 29th, 2010 at 9:04 pm

    Why would tex swing at the first pitch is beyond me.

  329. LGY September 29th, 2010 at 9:04 pm

    2 mph is not a big difference???

  330. LGY September 29th, 2010 at 9:04 pm

    The difference between 91 and 89 is not big???

  331. sunny615 September 29th, 2010 at 9:05 pm

    Christ. The offense check out already?

  332. Rich in NJ September 29th, 2010 at 9:05 pm

    2 mph is huge. Every mph you get over 90 is huge.

  333. ac1 September 29th, 2010 at 9:05 pm

    Benny Blanco September 29th, 2010 at 9:04 pm
    Why would tex swing at the first pitch is beyond me.

    __

    i like tex but he does this a lot. and i cant think of a time him swinging at the first pitch with runners on has turned out well.

  334. yanks22 September 29th, 2010 at 9:05 pm

    Wow this team fricking sucks!

  335. NYY fan in NH September 29th, 2010 at 9:05 pm

    Wow, this team is just laying down tonight.. Guess maybe Girardi should of reminded them that they can still win the division.. Team just has a hard time with the Jays. If the Jays ever put it together, the Yanks would be in trouble.

  336. West Coast Yankee Fan September 29th, 2010 at 9:05 pm

    I’m sure Vazquez hitting three straight batters, the last coming with the bases loaded had to do with a drop in velocity.

  337. Betsy September 29th, 2010 at 9:06 pm

    I think they’re still hungover after last night………….

  338. Cashmoney September 29th, 2010 at 9:06 pm

    he was also 2-6 down the stretch with 5.89 era and imploded in the only playoff game he was in .

    How was his velocity then

  339. Bronx Jeers September 29th, 2010 at 9:06 pm

    Why all the concern over Javy anyway?

    This will probably be the last time any of us ever see him pitch.

  340. LGY September 29th, 2010 at 9:07 pm

    CC Sabathia had an 8.80 ERA in the 2007 playoffs.

  341. West Coast Yankee Fan September 29th, 2010 at 9:08 pm

    Looking at plate discipline statistics, Vazquez has a career low in zone% this season with 45.0%, as compared to 49.4% historically for his career.

  342. theREALkevin September 29th, 2010 at 9:09 pm

    Hey cashmoney, I’m good, waitin on the playoffs to start… Seems like this last month has taken a year. Kinda swamped with class lately but I have a dead spot after this week so I should be able to get a bunch of hands in for a while starting this weekend. U taking a break since your trip?

  343. Captain Clutch September 29th, 2010 at 9:09 pm

    I would take Vazquez out now. He is definitely tired and hasn’t thrown this many pitches in awhile. I know this is an audition but aren’t we trying to win the game?

  344. Rich in NJ September 29th, 2010 at 9:09 pm

    Here’s something to consider about Javy and pressure.

    Some of the biggest stars in recent MLB history struggled in their first few months in pinstripes as they acclimated themselves to playing in NY (Clemens, Sheff, Tino, Giambi…).

    Not Javy in 2004. He was great early on.

  345. NYY fan in NH September 29th, 2010 at 9:09 pm

    9 hits already for the Jays. Bautista goes yard here..lol

  346. Cashmoney September 29th, 2010 at 9:09 pm

    you comparing CC to Javy? i just gave you a large sample size how he broke down in the heat of the pennant race….

    We can go back to 2004 if you want…

    it’s a fact , the man has exploded in every pennant race he has been involved in .

  347. LGY September 29th, 2010 at 9:10 pm

    CR9 is right!!

    Umpires have a smaller strike zone for NY York pitchers! That’s why Javy is “missing” so much.

    Pitchers with heart battle through that though :mad:

  348. Pauldanand September 29th, 2010 at 9:10 pm

    would someone please inform the Yankee dugout that the Rays are about to lose… please??

  349. theREALkevin September 29th, 2010 at 9:10 pm

    Look, 2 mph is a big difference. But I’m not concerned with past stuff. I looking at his current stuff, and with better command his current stuff is more than good enough to get the job done.

  350. yanks22 September 29th, 2010 at 9:10 pm

    Because Vasquez sucks!

  351. Captain Clutch September 29th, 2010 at 9:10 pm

    It would be nice to see this offense have more than 1 or 2 good games in a row and maybe get on a roll. It seems to be a good game followed by 5 we can’t do anything games.

  352. ac1 September 29th, 2010 at 9:10 pm

    at some point i would almost let aj go, eat the money and let nova be the 5th starter since he makes next to nothing im sure.

    cc-lee-hughes-pettitte-nova.

    i’d rather have nova with the potential than burnett with what we have seen more often that not in the last 2 years, minus a few good streaks.

  353. stuart a September 29th, 2010 at 9:11 pm

    so the newest gospel from girardi and the stupid media is kearns is an asset against lefties over gardner. MY response is bull. Gardner if he can get on base can be an asset. Kearns stinks. Also regardless of the bonehead play by escobar tonight gardner is a significant upgrade of kearns the hack in the field…

    imagine they play minny and kearns starts against liriano and duensing, horrible…

    btw aj burnett should not start a game in the alds unless old reputation and paycheck matter.

    vazquez is bad, just not as bad as burnett.

    imagine the yanks have won 94 games with disasters for 4th and 5th starters…yep aj is a 5th starter at best.

    thank g-d kearns is in there against lefties instead of gardner it is showing in the victories……..yeh……..

  354. LGY September 29th, 2010 at 9:11 pm

    No one has made any real argument as to why NY is the reason Javy stinks this year.

    It is a juvenile argument with no evidence to back it up.

  355. blake September 29th, 2010 at 9:11 pm

    “Looking at plate discipline statistics, Vazquez has a career low in zone% this season with 45.0%, as compared to 49.4% historically for his career.”

    When you don’t have your fastball anymore then you’re a little more hesitant to throw the ball in the strike zone…….you nibble and that leads to other bad things, and the viscous cycle begins.

  356. CR9 September 29th, 2010 at 9:12 pm

    LGY -

    Nice to see you mocking it :)

    Although it is obviously true about the strike zone, I dont think that the HP umpires have had that much an effect on Javier’s poor season. Im always sad when I cant blame something on an scumpire :(

  357. Cashmoney September 29th, 2010 at 9:12 pm

    2-4 record with 6.75 era down the stretch in 2004, from Aug 6-Sept 30 , more example of this choke artist.

  358. West Coast Yankee Fan September 29th, 2010 at 9:12 pm

    Vazquez’ poor performance has occurred only against lefties. So much for the velocity theory.

  359. LGY September 29th, 2010 at 9:12 pm

    All in good fun CR9 ;)

  360. Tom in N.J. September 29th, 2010 at 9:13 pm

    Vaquez was an All star before he hurt his shoulder in ’04.

  361. stuart a September 29th, 2010 at 9:13 pm

    again just to put burnetts year in perspective. 3rd worsee year in the AL. WOrse year by a yankee starter in maybe 30 years or more….

    those are some #’s to cry about…….

  362. LGY September 29th, 2010 at 9:14 pm

    In David Cone’s final year in pinstripes he was 4-14 with a 6.91 (!) ERA.

    Couldn’t handle NY?

  363. West Coast Yankee Fan September 29th, 2010 at 9:15 pm

    Look at Javy’s splits, lefties are killing him him at a .900 OPS this year, righties have a .686 OPS.

  364. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2010 at 9:15 pm

    Minny losing yet again to KC. Rays go there next. Nothing is etched in stone.

    And then Minny gets the Jays.

    Groaning down to the finish line.

  365. Rich in NJ September 29th, 2010 at 9:15 pm

    Javy has given up 11 HR v. RH hitters in 285 AB.

    Last year he gave up 6 HR v. RH hitters in 407 AB.

  366. LGY September 29th, 2010 at 9:15 pm

    Vazquez only feels the NY pressure heater against left handed hitters.

  367. MG September 29th, 2010 at 9:15 pm

    courtesy of the Daily News Blogging the Bombers thread from last December, here is what WCYF thought under his former nom de plume, ‘redfish’:

    redfish
    December 25, 2009 11:01 AM
    Following up on South Florida’s post, I have been thinking about what Cashman has done this off-season. I have to give him props and a grade of a strong B+ for what he was able to do “working within the budget he was given”. No, he didn’t make the big score, but he did do a very good job filling holes, getting us younger and keeping Joba, Hughe and Montero. But, there are questions.

    I have to believe that they let Matsui go because of his knees. I think the Yankees management and medical people think that even as a DH, since he has to run the bases, his knees would not hold up. Of course, they are betting heavily, and not getting good odds, that Johnson will have a healthy 2010. Time will tell.

    I think injuries will tell the tale this year. Not just for Johnson, but for Mariano, Pettitte, Burnett and Posada as well. Will our key players stay healthy? If so, we should be the favorites to win it all again, no matter who our left fielder is. If not, like any team with injuries, it will be tough.

    And Granderson, will he cut down on his strikeouts and hit left-handers better? Will he play sparkling D in center and jack 40? Yankee fans hope so, but who knows. Will Vasquez continue to be the dominant upper echelon pitcher he was in the NL the last few years? 200+ IP, 200+ strikeouts? We’ll see after he has to face Longoria, Youkallis, Zobrist, Crawford, Lind et al for a year.

    All in all, very good job Cash.

    redfish
    December 26, 2009 9:26 PM

    Ntive – there is no question in my mind and that of many others that the Yankees and Red Sox pay careful attention to what each other does and respond accordingly based on a desire to not fall behind. Baseball experts were almost unanimous in saying that the Red Sox helped themselves immensely acquiring Lackey and at that point had the best rotation in baseball. The Yankees in signing Vazquez, a legitimate number two and easy equal to Lackey, now have drawn even. That is how the cashamn-Epstein is played and if you don’t think that is true – with all due respect I do not think you are correct.

    Compare that to his recent posts complaining about Cashman…

  368. Cashmoney September 29th, 2010 at 9:16 pm

    Vaquez was an All star before he hurt his shoulder in ‘04.
    ————
    that’s all fair enough . But the theory of pressure has little in effecting Javy’s performance when there a large sample of data staring you in the face is unsound.

    There are other contextual variables, but Javy IMO has proven he can be rattled in the heat of pennant race.

    you are welcome to contest that i.

  369. West Coast Yankee Fan September 29th, 2010 at 9:16 pm

    Whoever that is that’s not me. Sorry better luck next time.

  370. CR9 September 29th, 2010 at 9:17 pm

    LGY -

    Hey, as long as you’re not calling me a Red Sox fan anymore :)

    Geez, Ive gotta say, that’s the only thing that’s ever actually pissed me off on here! My mission in life is to….well, I think it’s better left unsaid :)

  371. Captain Clutch September 29th, 2010 at 9:17 pm

    Get Vazquez out of this game before he gives up another homerun.

  372. theREALkevin September 29th, 2010 at 9:17 pm

    Lol cone was 37 in that season, and that was after years where he posted era+’s of 122, 175, 159, 125, and 137. NÓt to mention a perfect game.

  373. LGY September 29th, 2010 at 9:17 pm

    The argument is fool-proof.

    Javy only chokes against left handed hitters.

    He is cool as a cucumber against right handed hitters.

  374. Rich in NJ September 29th, 2010 at 9:17 pm

    Butt ugly.

  375. blake September 29th, 2010 at 9:17 pm

    Kept Javy in there and now the game has officially been blown open….

  376. CR9 September 29th, 2010 at 9:17 pm

    They said Cone sold his soul to the devil for that perfect game!

    Bye Bye Javier! Whooooops!

  377. sunny615 September 29th, 2010 at 9:17 pm

    So much for winning the division.

  378. ac1 September 29th, 2010 at 9:17 pm

    i keep trying to figure out whether javy or aj is worse for this team. i go back and forth.

    2 strikes and 2 outs and then 6 balls and a 3 run homer.

  379. MG September 29th, 2010 at 9:17 pm

    thanks, GI Joe, see you in Boston…

  380. Don September 29th, 2010 at 9:18 pm

    Javy reaches new levels of suckitude!

  381. stuart a September 29th, 2010 at 9:18 pm

    javy giving up 3 jacks.

    did not type but wanted hill to be his last ab and bring in ring against a lefty.

    javy sucks not suprising…. the guy is awful. again his #’s are better then Burnetts, think about that>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

  382. Cashmoney September 29th, 2010 at 9:18 pm

    release this loser!

  383. ChokeXOnXFailure September 29th, 2010 at 9:18 pm

    Take a good look, folks, it’s the last time you’re gonna see Vazquez pitch in a Yankee uniform.

  384. Rich in NJ September 29th, 2010 at 9:18 pm

    Girardi continues to send mixed messages with his managerial moves.

  385. Yogi Mantle September 29th, 2010 at 9:18 pm

    Yeah, Girardi is really wanting to have the division. Javy on the mound means HR city for the opposition, but he knows that the Yanks will score 15 or more runs.

    Right.

  386. West Coast Yankee Fan September 29th, 2010 at 9:18 pm

    So if Girardi is truly fighting for the division, why exactly was Vazquez pitching today?

  387. MG September 29th, 2010 at 9:19 pm

    West Coast Yankee Fan September 29th, 2010 at 9:16 pm
    Whoever that is that’s not me. Sorry better luck next time.
    ——————-
    sure, John, and ‘Vineyard Yankee’ isn’t BobbyCA, who do you think you’re fooling?

  388. NYY fan in NH September 29th, 2010 at 9:19 pm

    LMAO…. what a joke this Javy is.. I thought it would be Bautista going yard. It was Hill instead. Now the game is over!

  389. Ben Farber September 29th, 2010 at 9:19 pm

    thank god the rays are gonna lose.

    honestly i think it says something about how the rays are playing too if were gonna go 11-15 in september and only lose 3 games in the standings.

    whatever- i’d rather have the twins anyway

  390. LGY September 29th, 2010 at 9:19 pm

    It’s obvious.

    The pressure to perform as a result of Cito Gaston’s pregame ceremony made Javy pitch awful.

  391. Captain Clutch September 29th, 2010 at 9:19 pm

    Exactly what I just said lol Girardi is moron. Why are you letting Vazquez throw 90 pitches when he hasn’t started in what 3 weeks??? I really hope Girardi finds his brain for the post season.

  392. West Coast Yankee Fan September 29th, 2010 at 9:20 pm

    MG you appear to be a troll. Keep it up and I’m sure Chad will dispose of you.

  393. Betsy September 29th, 2010 at 9:20 pm

    I admit that made no sense…………..if he’s got his guys in there and he’s trying to win, then why was Javy still out there? Tired of Joe already.,

  394. Noreaster September 29th, 2010 at 9:20 pm

    One good thing about tonight is that Javy never pitches for the Yankees again.

  395. NYY fan in NH September 29th, 2010 at 9:20 pm

    I don’t know who I can’t stand more AJ or Javy.. at least Javy will never pitch for this team again and don’t let the door hit you on the way out, Javy!… Atrocious!

  396. ac1 September 29th, 2010 at 9:20 pm

    i dont really see a point in keeping the starters in now. even if they could mount a comeback, there is no reason to risk injury with a game on turf likely out of hand.

  397. Cashmoney September 29th, 2010 at 9:20 pm

    Yeah, kev, I am staying in NY for the playoff , I have a friend coming to stay with me a couple weeks.

    It’s all good, I get to watch the playoffs at home in 4 years.

  398. Andres from Peru September 29th, 2010 at 9:20 pm

    what if Alex play for the Bluejays for 1 ab against Vazquez?

  399. stuart a September 29th, 2010 at 9:20 pm

    burnett gives up 7 in 2 1/3 this is a good outing for the back of the rotation….

    $29 mill for these 2 gems.. a hillbilly cementhead and a softie from puerto rico…

    they are both awful. but hey kearns is there leftfielder against lefties don’t you feel good and confident with that hacker replacing gardner!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  400. MG September 29th, 2010 at 9:21 pm

    West Coast Fish, I’ve been here a lot longer than you…

  401. Benny Blanco September 29th, 2010 at 9:21 pm

    Javy and AJ both give up 7 runs. Coincidence?

  402. blake September 29th, 2010 at 9:21 pm

    The Yankees were always going to need to win at least 2 of 3 at Fenway but if the current scores hold up then they will need a sweep and hope the Royals can work a split against Tampa.

  403. theREALkevin September 29th, 2010 at 9:21 pm

    Nice to know ya javy. Looks like your second stint ended up about the same was as the first- complete and utter failure. And he has the nerve to complain about getting removed from the roatation at times? He should be happy he was saved some embarrassment by having less starts he could get shelled in.

  404. Rich in NJ September 29th, 2010 at 9:21 pm

    “I don’t know who I can’t stand more AJ or Javy.. at least Javy will never pitch for this team again and don’t let the door hit you on the way out, Javy!… Atrocious!”

    I have no animus toward either player, but I don’t want to seem them in pinstripes anymore.

  405. Betsy September 29th, 2010 at 9:22 pm

    Ok, can he take the regulars out of there? Please?

  406. West Coast Yankee Fan September 29th, 2010 at 9:22 pm

    Good MG. Then you know the rules and shouldn’t be acting like a troll. If you have baseball comments feel free to engage.

  407. Rich in NJ September 29th, 2010 at 9:22 pm

    Brackman should pitch.

  408. LGY September 29th, 2010 at 9:22 pm

    Maybe West Coast Yankee fan is an alter ego like CR9 has.

    His way to vent by posting the same thing everyday.

  409. Captain Clutch September 29th, 2010 at 9:22 pm

    If Girardi cared at all about winning the division he would of taken Vazquez out after the walk or hit. There is absolutely no way he would of let him stay in and throw that many pitches. Girardi can say whatever he wants to the media but that was an audition and nothing more. He definitely wanted to take Vazquez on the post season roster and that is why he was left out there. And he FAILED!!!

  410. MG September 29th, 2010 at 9:22 pm

    these last 4 runs are on Girardi, not Vazquez. It was obvious he had nothing and it was only a matter of time until the Jays scored runs in bunches.

  411. Betsy September 29th, 2010 at 9:22 pm

    At this point, the Yankees should just give up the ghost and rest their players……………and take them out of the game!

  412. Rich in NJ September 29th, 2010 at 9:23 pm

    30

  413. ac1 September 29th, 2010 at 9:23 pm

    gardner will face lefties in the postseason. he has that thumb injury he is healing from. but kearns is not starting in the playoffs, unless i missed where girardi said that he would…

  414. Carl September 29th, 2010 at 9:23 pm

    30!!!

  415. LGY September 29th, 2010 at 9:23 pm

    CR9,

    I reserve the right to further develop my conspiracy theory that you are a Red Sox fan if you really annoy me.

    Always keep that card in my back pocket ;)

  416. Bronx Jeers September 29th, 2010 at 9:23 pm

    Very cool.

  417. West Coast Yankee Fan September 29th, 2010 at 9:24 pm

    30 amazing.

  418. blake September 29th, 2010 at 9:24 pm

    Well there is one positive from tonight….told yall it was coming tonight.

  419. MG September 29th, 2010 at 9:24 pm

    LGY, the comments from the Daily News board are from WCYF aka redfish. Amazingly, they are in direct contradiction to his recent comments about Cashman on LoHud.

  420. LGY September 29th, 2010 at 9:24 pm

    Incredible that he got to 30 this season.

  421. ac1 September 29th, 2010 at 9:24 pm

    he got 30….

    he is unreal.

  422. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2010 at 9:24 pm

    blake, I would count on a split with the Royals and Tampa more than I would count on a sweep in Fenway. Anything is possible. We face Matsuzaka, Bucholz and Lackey. So it’s AJ facing Buchola.

  423. Betsy September 29th, 2010 at 9:24 pm

    Does Joe’s left hand have any clue what his right hand is doing?

  424. Captain Clutch September 29th, 2010 at 9:24 pm

    Good for Arod, he gets his homerun. It should be 4-1 not 7-1 if Girardi actually knew how to manage.

  425. Cashmoney September 29th, 2010 at 9:24 pm

    nice job by the ROD ! 30 again!

  426. Rich in NJ September 29th, 2010 at 9:24 pm

    Mofo

  427. Benny Blanco September 29th, 2010 at 9:25 pm

    ALEX IS UNREAL!

  428. Captain Clutch September 29th, 2010 at 9:25 pm

    Ceceil should be thrown out of the game for that. Get a life loser it’s 7-1.

  429. LGY September 29th, 2010 at 9:25 pm

    “LGY, the comments from the Daily News board are from WCYF aka redfish. Amazingly, they are in direct contradiction to his recent comments about Cashman on LoHud.”

    ——————–

    Hindsight sure is nice.

  430. stuart a September 29th, 2010 at 9:25 pm

    fighting for the division. I can understand starting Javy but not taking him out woth 85+ pitches against overbay or going to the righty against hill….

    it is all BS from Girardi that foold believe. They are playing Minny on weds. you can bank on it…

    I put ring on the ALDS roster over javy and gaudin. against a lefty before the 7th he has a chance of possibly gettting him out so you do not have to waste logan to early in the game..

    javy, gaudin, mitre, serve no purpose.

    btw the only purpose the hillbilly(burnett) serves on the alds roster is if a starter gets hurt before an outing else is role is for pies only.

    shocking yankees scored via a homer.. no way…

  431. West Coast Yankee Fan September 29th, 2010 at 9:25 pm

    It’s rather amazing that we even made the post-season given that our number 2 and 4 starters have basically been a disaster and we have an average manager at best. To me that illustrates how important the guys that have performed well have been. Sabathia, Pettitte, Mo, Cano, Hughes, A-Rod, Swisher, Wood, etc.

  432. Bronx Jeers September 29th, 2010 at 9:25 pm

    So wait…

    You’re up 7-0, then someone hits a HR….so you plunk the next guy?

    Screw that!

  433. Betsy September 29th, 2010 at 9:25 pm

    Alex! I think he’s almost becoming underrated…………..he’s still one of the best players in baseball and a monster clutch performer. What a remarkable year he’s had……..

  434. ac1 September 29th, 2010 at 9:25 pm

    did he hit cano on purpose?

  435. Laura - I Bleed Blue September 29th, 2010 at 9:26 pm

    Judging from the scores, neither TB, MIN or the Yankees want HFA.

  436. Don September 29th, 2010 at 9:27 pm

    Anyway we can thank Javy for the good stretch that he had and the good games that he did pitch (with his diminished stuff), but we have to say goodbye to him now.

  437. MG September 29th, 2010 at 9:27 pm

    Girardi sent me to my DVR to watch Parenthood, it’s a lot more fun looking at Minka Kelly than watching the remnants of a Vazquez start.

  438. blake September 29th, 2010 at 9:27 pm

    Trisha,

    I agree. I think a split in KC is very possible but sweeping at Fenway won’t be easy especially with the Yankees probably resting people throughout the series. Need to come back and win tonight to really have a good shot at it….otherwise…just rest guys and line it up to face Minnesota.

  439. tampayank September 29th, 2010 at 9:27 pm

    Congrats to AROD

    Can CC pitch on 2 days rest?/sarcasm. Bc the rest of this rotation terrifies me

  440. 108 stitches September 29th, 2010 at 9:27 pm

    Not wishing for a player to be hurt but if the forearm of Vazquez swells up tomorrow, it’s a legitimate reason to remove him from the postseason roster.

    3 more at bats for the Ray. Orioles 2-0.

  441. JM September 29th, 2010 at 9:27 pm

    Arod is just an amazing player. To get 30 HRs this year after missing time on the DL and having an apparent “power outage” for a good part of the season just shows you how great he is.

  442. NYY fan in NH September 29th, 2010 at 9:27 pm

    Arod getting #30 makes it all better!

  443. yanks22 September 29th, 2010 at 9:27 pm

    Javy can kiss a pile of bricks!

  444. CR9 September 29th, 2010 at 9:27 pm

    Congrats to Arod.

    This criminal team hit Cano up 6 runs. I hate this sick loser Cecil. Who couldnt bother to show up versus the red sox. This dirtpile criminal. They just hit our MVP right before the start of the postseason. I hope we send out Albaladejo to drill Aaron Hill, Vermin Wells, or Jose Bautista right in the ….

  445. theREALkevin September 29th, 2010 at 9:28 pm

    Cash- sounds like a good plan. Gettin to relax for a few weeks and watch some yankee playoff baseball comfortably @ home… After booking a nice win.. Can’t beat that. Hopefully the yanks will have a deep run this year. I think they matchup really good with all the AL playoff teams.

  446. LGY September 29th, 2010 at 9:28 pm

    Rays lose 2 nights ago and are on the verge of losing tonight.

    At the same time AJ and Javy give up 7 runs.

    Story of why the Yankees are in 2nd place right now.

  447. West Coast Yankee Fan September 29th, 2010 at 9:28 pm

    I remember with amusement those who claimed A-Rod’s power days were behind him because he wasn’t taking steroids anymore. Where oh where art thou?

  448. NYY fan in NH September 29th, 2010 at 9:28 pm

    4-1 looked a hellavu lot better than 7-1 now with 2 on and 1 out.. Damn you Javy!

  449. sunny615 September 29th, 2010 at 9:29 pm

    Congrats arod!

  450. Captain Clutch September 29th, 2010 at 9:29 pm

    Gardner is hitting .229 since the all star break and hasn’t started against a lefty since Kearns arrived. So I doubt he will start against a lefty in the post season. Kearns’ defense is awful and you can guarantee he will cost them them a run or 2 if he starts in the post season. I would definitely start Golson over him.

  451. Rich in NJ September 29th, 2010 at 9:30 pm

    ” Damn you Javy!”

    He didn’t keep himself in the game.

  452. West Coast Yankee Fan September 29th, 2010 at 9:30 pm

    Someone please explain to me why if Girardi really wanted HFA he pitched Vazquez tonight.

  453. CR9 September 29th, 2010 at 9:30 pm

    We’re still in this game, folks!

  454. MG September 29th, 2010 at 9:30 pm

    MG September 29th, 2010 at 8:14 pm
    there is really no reason for Vazquez to be pitching out there, it’s obvious he has nothing and the game is going to be out of reach very shortly if he isn’t pulled, at which time you can put in the Scranton team.
    ————————
    I really hated to be right about this, a win tonight and the Rays losing again would have put real pressure on them to win tomorrow night with the Yankees being off.

  455. pat September 29th, 2010 at 9:30 pm

    YankeesWFAN A-Rod’s 30th HR. Now has 14th 30HR, 100RBI yr. I’m guessing stupid fan who threw it back doesn’t realize how much free stuff he just lost.

  456. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2010 at 9:30 pm

    “….otherwise…just rest guys and line it up to face Minnesota”

    A real conundrum. I’d like to have home field, but I’d rather face Minny.

    ******************

    GO GO CISCO!!!!!!!

    :)

  457. Betsy September 29th, 2010 at 9:31 pm

    Joe scares me in the post-season. I can handle losing if the players just don’t get it done, but for the manager to mess up? That’s hard to take

  458. theREALkevin September 29th, 2010 at 9:31 pm

    Cervelli has picked it up again in the month of september.

  459. Niblick September 29th, 2010 at 9:31 pm

    Who’s worse?

    AJ – ERA of 5.33
    Javy – ERA of 5.32

  460. LGY September 29th, 2010 at 9:31 pm

    “Someone please explain to me why if Girardi really wanted HFA he pitched Vazquez tonight.”

    ——————————-

    Who would you have pitched?

  461. ac1 September 29th, 2010 at 9:31 pm

    Gardner is hitting .229 since the all star break and hasn’t started against a lefty since Kearns arrived. So I doubt he will start against a lefty in the post season. Kearns’ defense is awful and you can guarantee he will cost them them a run or 2 if he starts in the post season. I would definitely start Golson over him.

    ___

    is tha actually true? i feel like i have seen gardner in the lineup vs lefties since july 31.

  462. JM September 29th, 2010 at 9:32 pm

    Joe G’s moves today were very bizarre. He starts almost all the A team but then has Javy pitch. Did he really expect Javy to suddenly find it again? He has not pitched well in quite awhile. Strange.

  463. 108 stitches September 29th, 2010 at 9:32 pm

    Rays lose to Orioles 2-0. Another blown chance for the Yankees to gain and be in 1st place unless they have a good rally in their bones.

  464. blake September 29th, 2010 at 9:33 pm

    Yanks making a game of it….which makes it hurt even more that they decided to stick with Javy so long.

  465. pat September 29th, 2010 at 9:33 pm

    Rays lose

  466. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2010 at 9:33 pm

    “I really hated to be right about this, a win tonight and the Rays losing again would have put real pressure on them to win tomorrow night with the Yankees being off.”

    Yeah so the Yankees could have faced Boston with AJ, Javy and TBA. THAT makes a ton of sense.

    :roll:

  467. Captain Clutch September 29th, 2010 at 9:33 pm

    Too bad Girardi left Vazquez in so long to throw more batting practice. You really have to wonder what he was thinking to let him throw 90 pitches. Also Tampa lost so this would/could be a great game to win.

  468. jacksquat September 29th, 2010 at 9:33 pm

    Leaving Javy out there until he had given up 7 doesn’t really jive with wanting to win the division. But that’s ok because I don’t want to face Lee in a short series.

    And hitting Cano was bush.

  469. ac1 September 29th, 2010 at 9:33 pm

    Joe G’s moves today were very bizarre. He starts almost all the A team but then has Javy pitch. Did he really expect Javy to suddenly find it again? He has not pitched well in quite awhile. Strange.

    __

    who would start? cc went yesterday and pettitte has to line up for game 2.

    Hughes pitches 3 days ago….

    Burnett?

    Think sometimes people……. we dont have 5 aces.

  470. theREALkevin September 29th, 2010 at 9:34 pm

    Big deficits haven’t bothered the yanks lately. They don’t always claw all the way back but they always at least make things interesting. Their lineup battles.

  471. NYY fan in NH September 29th, 2010 at 9:34 pm

    He didn’t keep himself in the game

    ——————————-

    Rich- No, Javy never keeps the Yanks in the game.. Some people say he is a battler…I thought battlers kept the team in the game.

  472. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2010 at 9:35 pm

    Well, it looks like the Orioles have really gotten their act together nicely. Not of course that I said it was happening before our eyes.

    :)

  473. MG September 29th, 2010 at 9:35 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2010 at 9:33 pm
    “I really hated to be right about this, a win tonight and the Rays losing again would have put real pressure on them to win tomorrow night with the Yankees being off.”

    Yeah so the Yankees could have faced Boston with AJ, Javy and TBA. THAT makes a ton of sense.
    ——————-
    is reading comprehension something that is over your head? Girardi should have pulled Vazquez in the 2nd or 3rd inning when it was obvious he had absolutely nothing. Instead, he let his stubborness leave him in to absorb a beating.

  474. Don September 29th, 2010 at 9:35 pm

    Javy or no Javy, the Yankees are still in this game.

  475. Rich in NJ September 29th, 2010 at 9:35 pm

    NYY fan in NH

    Well played.

  476. West Coast Yankee Fan September 29th, 2010 at 9:35 pm

    Pettitte.

  477. Benny Blanco September 29th, 2010 at 9:35 pm

    I think joe left him out there to see if he could get out of it.

  478. Captain Clutch September 29th, 2010 at 9:36 pm

    “Someone please explain to me why if Girardi really wanted HFA he pitched Vazquez tonight.”
    ——–

    The problem wasn’t Vazquez starting tonight it was taking him before he gave up the game. Since he hasn’t started recently he should of been on a pitch count or taken out after the walk or hit in the 5th inning. Leaving him out there to throw 90 pitches made absolutely no sense.

  479. JM September 29th, 2010 at 9:37 pm

    Could have started Moseley but I suppose you guys are right, no guarantee he would have done any better and he probably wouldn’t have made it more than four innings anyway. Wish he would have yanked Javy when it was 4-1 though.

  480. LGY September 29th, 2010 at 9:37 pm

    Genius.

    Start Pettitte instead of lining him up for the playoffs which Andy clearly wanted from the way he talked about it last night.

    Then if you start Andy tonight, who do you start in Boston?

  481. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2010 at 9:37 pm

    KC still beating Minny 2-0, 5th inning

  482. West Coast Yankee Fan September 29th, 2010 at 9:37 pm

    Clutch ok then – another Girardi managerial blunder then.

  483. Cashmoney September 29th, 2010 at 9:37 pm

    They need to rip the uniform off Javy’s back , save everybody some anguish and send the man packing tonight! I don’t want this jinx anywhere near the playoff.

  484. Rich in NJ September 29th, 2010 at 9:38 pm

    I can understand starting Javy. I can’t understand leaving him in so long.

  485. Cashmoney September 29th, 2010 at 9:38 pm

    Why can’t we see some Brackman ?

  486. LGY September 29th, 2010 at 9:39 pm

    The Rays got shut out twice in 3 days vs Baltimore.

    Every team has problems.

  487. Rich in NJ September 29th, 2010 at 9:39 pm

    Or what CC said.

  488. SAS September 29th, 2010 at 9:39 pm

    Now, will Girardi stick with his starting team or replace them with the B team?

    As long as they can still win, I stay with my starters….except Vazquez.

  489. blake September 29th, 2010 at 9:39 pm

    I think Javy does battle….he just doesn’t have a whole lot to battle with..

  490. Rich in NJ September 29th, 2010 at 9:39 pm

    Jeterian.

  491. West Coast Yankee Fan September 29th, 2010 at 9:39 pm

    He would still be lined up for the playoffs with a few extra days rest. You either try to win the division or not. If no one is hurt, or needs to sit for a specific reason, they should play.

  492. LGY September 29th, 2010 at 9:39 pm

    Javy should have been taken out. I definitely agree with that.

  493. Laura - I Bleed Blue September 29th, 2010 at 9:39 pm

    When was the last time Jeter hit a HR?

  494. Eric UWS September 29th, 2010 at 9:39 pm

    I’d love to see Brackman.

    Nice hit Jete.

  495. Benny Blanco September 29th, 2010 at 9:40 pm

    NICE!

  496. Captain Clutch September 29th, 2010 at 9:40 pm

    Let’s go Swish!!!

  497. MG September 29th, 2010 at 9:40 pm

    I had no problem starting Vazquez tonight, I had a big problem leaving him in when it was clearly obvious he was going to get hammered and had nothing to prevent it from happening.

  498. blake September 29th, 2010 at 9:40 pm

    Great AB from Jeter….classic Jeter right there.

  499. theREALkevin September 29th, 2010 at 9:40 pm

    One of jeters best at bats all season.

  500. Eric UWS September 29th, 2010 at 9:40 pm

    Ach. Oh well.

  501. CR9 September 29th, 2010 at 9:41 pm

    Come on Swish! Darn it! We had a real opportunity there. Could have at least gotten 1 or 2 runs out of that.

  502. Ace September 29th, 2010 at 9:41 pm

    Awful swish. When’s the last time he swung at first pitch? Just terrible

  503. Rich in NJ September 29th, 2010 at 9:41 pm

    Septmeber has not been kind to Swisher:

    .225 .304 .366 .670

  504. ac1 September 29th, 2010 at 9:41 pm

    really?

  505. Rich in NJ September 29th, 2010 at 9:41 pm

    Neither has September.

  506. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2010 at 9:41 pm

    “Girardi should have pulled Vazquez in the 2nd or 3rd inning when it was obvious he had absolutely nothing. Instead, he let his stubborness leave him in to absorb a beating.”

    Sorry I thought you were one of the whiners who were saying Andy should have started tonight.

  507. Betsy September 29th, 2010 at 9:42 pm

    Why is Swisher still in this game? Of all players, he needs to rest and get his knee healthy…………and on turf no less. I don’t get Joe…………

  508. Cashman needs to go September 29th, 2010 at 9:42 pm

    goddamn it – nick f’ing swisher is so f’ing irritating sometimes – take a f’ing pitch you giggling imbecile

  509. blake September 29th, 2010 at 9:42 pm

    “I had no problem starting Vazquez tonight, I had a big problem leaving him in when it was clearly obvious he was going to get hammered and had nothing to prevent it from happening.”

    Agreed. Probably should have made the move when they score the 4th run if not sooner.

    Double play killed the inning but they did get Cecil out and get the game within reach again so it was a good inning.

  510. theREALkevin September 29th, 2010 at 9:42 pm

    Lol first pitch…. What a frigging waste of an at bat… That will almost certianly cost them in the end

  511. yanks22 September 29th, 2010 at 9:43 pm

    Yankees are nothing short of pathetic!

  512. Matt September 29th, 2010 at 9:43 pm

    This team doesn’t get big hits not because they are “unlucky,” but because they have stupid at bats like the one Swisher just had.

    The bases are loaded and the big hitters are on deck, make him prove he can throw a strike before you start hacking away at garbage.

    Instead, he is way overaggressive trying to hit a grand slam and pulls way off a low and away pitch and hits into a DP.

    They beat themselves every time up there with runners on pretty much. Once again it was not the big hitters getting it done, but the AAA bench player scrubs who won’t see a game in October.

  513. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2010 at 9:43 pm

    Scott Baker in a little trouble in KC.

  514. m September 29th, 2010 at 9:43 pm

    Don’t know if I’m more mad at Swisher, Javy, or Girardi. Javy, I think.

  515. sunny615 September 29th, 2010 at 9:43 pm

    Crap.

  516. Captain Clutch September 29th, 2010 at 9:43 pm

    Swish has been absolutely dreadful recently. He needs a day or 2 off. Have some freaking patience at the plate instead of swinging at the 1st pitch you see that wasn’t even a strike. I hate to say it but if he keeps swinging at pitches like that he is going to get abused in the play offs.

  517. Laura - I Bleed Blue September 29th, 2010 at 9:43 pm

    “Meanwhile, the internet has been very hit-and-miss tonight, but Javier Vazquez might have thrown his last pitch of the season.”

    Is that a promise? :P

  518. MG September 29th, 2010 at 9:44 pm

    trisha, I don’t usually repeat the same things over and over but I must have posted 6 times tonight before the 3rd inning was over that Vazquez had nothing and if he stayed in the game he was going to get killed. If it was that obvious to me watching TV how could Girardi, who is a smart guy and played the game at a high level for 15 years, not know exactly the same thing AND had a full bullpen with a day off tomorrow to use?

  519. BBFan September 29th, 2010 at 9:44 pm

    Alex the great is just amazing.

    How amazing?

    13 consecutive seasons (14 total) of 30 runs and 100 RBIs.

    Alex is supposed to drive in runs and Jeter is supposed to score runs.
    You know what? Alex has career 1756 runs Vs Jeter’s 1683.

    We are all looking forward to Jeter’s 3000 hits next year.
    Alex will have his 3000 hits the year after. He has 2669 hits now.

    Above all, health permitting, by the time he retires he will have more career RBIs than anyone else in the history of the game. Now Alex has 1828 RBIs and the record is 2297 by Aron. Alex needs 469 which averages to just 67/year over the rest of his contract.

    Just amazing.
    We are fortunate to be watching Alex play, that too for the team we root for.

  520. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2010 at 9:44 pm

    “Yankees are nothing short of pathetic!”

    Yep, pathetic.

  521. Rich in NJ September 29th, 2010 at 9:44 pm

    “Don’t know if I’m more mad at Swisher, Javy, or Girardi. Javy, I think.”

    Here’s why I am not as mad at Javy: low expectations.

  522. Cashmoney September 29th, 2010 at 9:44 pm

    more of Javy’s suckitude

    July 31- Now (not including tonight)
    1-2 with 6.31 era 45 ip 53 hits! 22 bb!

  523. NYY fan in NH September 29th, 2010 at 9:44 pm

    Swish is pretty bad tonight with the K’s in crucial situations.. Sometimes I wish he would stop smiling!

  524. stuart a September 29th, 2010 at 9:45 pm

    nice patient ab by swish. way to take advantage of the pitcher being in trouble and being patient. maybe texiera taught him. jeter did hit a ground ball just not his usual DP ball.

    so now girardi is trying to win by putting in robertson. he has been trying to win half ass..

  525. blake September 29th, 2010 at 9:46 pm

    The Rays got 2 hits off Kevin Millwood.

  526. Captain Clutch September 29th, 2010 at 9:46 pm

    Swish is probably 80% healthy right now. The fact that Girardi is letting him play a day after clinching makes absolutely no sense. Girardi treated the 5th inning like another audition so why are you playing a guy that clearly needs time off?? Cano needs a day off also.

  527. Erica in NY September 29th, 2010 at 9:46 pm

    Not to brag or anything but I totally called the A-Rod home run earlier today……

    Erica in NY September 29th, 2010 at 4:15 pm
    30 for A-Rod tonight!!!!!!!

  528. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2010 at 9:46 pm

    “trisha, I don’t usually repeat the same things over and over but I must have posted 6 times tonight before the 3rd inning was over that Vazquez had nothing and if he stayed in the game he was going to get killed. If it was that obvious to me watching TV how could Girardi, who is a smart guy and played the game at a high level for 15 years, not know exactly the same thing AND had a full bullpen with a day off tomorrow to use?”

    Well one of my deficiencies on the forum is not being able to keep up with all of the game posts. Too many go by when I am posting so I don’t get to catch up from where I was. I didn’t see you post anything 6 times. That isn’t to say that you didnt.

  529. Matt September 29th, 2010 at 9:47 pm

    The reason last year’s team was tough with runners on base was not that they were that much better of hitters, but that they worked deep counts and pitchers made mistakes.

    He didn’t walk the previous hitter, he made some tough pitches and Jeter fought them off. He’s not going to just throw it down the middle for you, he’s going to nibble around the corners like he’s been doing in the entire inning.

    And if he does groove one for a strike, so what? Take it and make the pitcher work for the out, maybe he’ll walk you or fall behind and have to come in with a strike.

    A 0-0 count is not one in which he has to throw you one over the plate, swinging at the first pitch in that situation is stupid and overaggressive.

    Whether this game counts or not is irrelevant. They have been doing this all season, and they are going to have to ride their starters big time if they can’t get the big hits.

  530. Eroc September 29th, 2010 at 9:47 pm

    Kevin Gregg will come in the 9th and shut us down

  531. Cashman needs to go September 29th, 2010 at 9:47 pm

    john buck (or trading for mike napoli) could be a good signing next year – you know posada maybe will catch 30 games next year and if cashman is stupid enough to give cervelli the rest of those starts (in case montero isn’t ready) he should be shot on sight…

  532. beedogs September 29th, 2010 at 9:47 pm

    I wonder if A-Rod will end the season with more home runs than Javy Vazquez has allowed.

    Thanks again, Brian Cashman. Such an overrated GM.

  533. stuart a September 29th, 2010 at 9:48 pm

    girardi needs to make these clowns take a pitch.

    jorge the other night 3 and 0 in the 8th down by 2, what does proefessor posada do. he grounds to first on a check swing..

    the yanks have HERO COMPLEX. Most of the guys try to be a hero instead of just moving the line……

  534. MG September 29th, 2010 at 9:48 pm

    stuart a September 29th, 2010 at 9:45 pm
    nice patient ab by swish. way to take advantage of the pitcher being in trouble and being patient. maybe texiera taught him. jeter did hit a ground ball just not his usual DP ball.
    ————————
    Jeter now has 1109 hits on ground balls in his career, do you want him to give those back and exchange them for 400 line drive hits?

  535. blake September 29th, 2010 at 9:48 pm

    Anybody ever wonder what percentage of the Rays TV ratings are a result of Yankee fans watching the competition? I know I watch a fair amount of Rays games myself.

  536. Rich in NJ September 29th, 2010 at 9:48 pm

    Erica in NY

    Props.

  537. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2010 at 9:48 pm

    “I had no problem starting Vazquez tonight, I had a big problem leaving him in when it was clearly obvious he was going to get hammered and had nothing to prevent it from happening.”

    I don’t disagree. A few times I said I had hoped he had Moseley or Mitre warming.

  538. Don Vito A. Bellamo September 29th, 2010 at 9:48 pm

    Swisher is an idiot for swinging at that first pitch, because he took away ANY of the numerous good things that can happen on subsequent pitches ( balk, passed ball, wild pitch, enough balls for a walk, a hitter’s count later, etc. ) and did the ONE DAMN thing that killed the rally….and all after an 8 pitch AB by Jeter that resulted in a single to right. STUPID even more, because you have Tex and A-Rod coming up behind you and your double play ASSURED that neither of them got a chance to drive in some runs. SWISHER gets the blame right now, because he is the latest to “err”.

  539. Captain Clutch September 29th, 2010 at 9:49 pm

    Why is Robertson pitching in a 7-3 game? To keep the game close? Girardi obviously didn’t care about keeping the game close in the 5th inning. Robertson doesn’t look that good either.

  540. SAS September 29th, 2010 at 9:49 pm

    Erica,

    That you did. I just wish that HR had put us ahead.

  541. Cashmoney September 29th, 2010 at 9:49 pm

    Post season Javy
    4 games 1-1 , 10.34 ERA ! 15 IP , 24 hits! 18 ER!!! 10BB !

    These are the biographical pages of a choker and a loser!

  542. West Coast Yankee Fan September 29th, 2010 at 9:49 pm

    Another poor Girardi decision. Leaving Vazquez in the game.

  543. Cashman needs to go September 29th, 2010 at 9:49 pm

    NYY fan in NH September 29th, 2010 at 9:44 pm
    Swish is pretty bad tonight with the K?s in crucial situations.. Sometimes I wish he would stop smiling!

    ***********************

    i know talking about ozzie guillen on here is taboo – but he was spot on about vazquez and he did even mention that swishers clown routine can get on your nerves after awhile…

    btw if ozzie was managing the yankees you think he’d have aj or vazquez pitching any games in september?

  544. tyanksfan36 September 29th, 2010 at 9:50 pm

    BBFan

    I too am glad the Alex Rodriguez is a Yankee. He puts up with a lot being the scapegoat for everyone in baseball who ever took steroids. He hasn’t let it get to him. He gets booed everywhere he goes but Yankee Stadium but he still produces. I think he is truly a great baseball player and should be a hall of famer whether he gets in or not.

  545. Rich in NJ September 29th, 2010 at 9:50 pm

    “Why is Robertson pitching in a 7-3 game? To keep the game close? Girardi obviously didn’t care about keeping the game close in the 5th inning. Robertson doesn’t look that good either.”

    It has been a bizarrely inconsistent pattern in recent weeks.

  546. Erica in NY September 29th, 2010 at 9:51 pm

    Rich in NJ September 29th, 2010 at 9:48 pm
    Erica in NY

    Props.
    ************

    Thank you!!! :-)

  547. Ace September 29th, 2010 at 9:51 pm

    I can’t wait to hear what Matt has to say if they win #28

  548. Matt September 29th, 2010 at 9:51 pm

    This is exactly why I say Girardi needs to get up off his butt and put a straight up take sign on in counts like that.

    Don’t leave it “up to the hitter” to take or swing, these hitters are all way too aggressive in hitters’ counts trying to hit home runs and get themselves out. You cannot trust them to not beat themselves.

    You need to put on the red light and force them to take the pitch. How many bad at bats have we seen in which guys make weak outs or swing at garbage in hitters’ counts?

    The other night, Posada swung at ball 2 in a 1-0 count with the bases loaded, Berkman flew out lazily on 2-0 with the bases loaded and 2 outs, sometimes the hitters are pressing and you need to stop them from swinging out of their shoes.

    It makes no sense to let a hitter swing at the first pitch with the bases loaded and a nibbler on the mound. These guys haven’t earned the right to have a green light by the at bats they’ve been having, so take away the privilege.

  549. Bronx Jeers September 29th, 2010 at 9:51 pm

    John Buck should get a better/longer deal than the Yanks need to dish out for a catcher.

  550. Erica in NY September 29th, 2010 at 9:51 pm

    SAS September 29th, 2010 at 9:49 pm
    Erica,

    That you did. I just wish that HR had put us ahead.

    **********

    Me too! But there is still time

  551. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2010 at 9:51 pm

    If there is a God, Kim Jones will somehow not feel the need to be up in Javy’s face tonight, asking him whether he was disappointed in his outing and whether he thinks it might have affected his chances to make the postseason roster. I don’t think Javy needs his face wiped in the obvious.

    Kim oftentimes asks the most vacuous questions, almost to the point of being embarrassing.

  552. yanks22 September 29th, 2010 at 9:51 pm

    Anybody who thinks the Yankees are getting pass the first round is crazy!

  553. CR9 September 29th, 2010 at 9:51 pm

    Im clearly not Don Vito. Because I wouldnt insult Swisher. So he made a mistake. The real reason we’re down in this game is because unfortunately, Javier is just not good and Joe left him in too long. Oh well, just one game.

  554. JM September 29th, 2010 at 9:52 pm

    It will be a travesty, IMO, if Arod is not a first ballot Hall of Famer.

  555. Ace September 29th, 2010 at 9:52 pm

    Robertson like everyone else is just getting his reps in. Girardi has certainly made it clear HFA doesn’t matter.

  556. Carl September 29th, 2010 at 9:52 pm

    # yanks22 September 29th, 2010 at 9:51 pm

    Anybody who thinks the Yankees are getting pass the first round is crazy!

    past.

  557. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2010 at 9:53 pm

    “Why is Robertson pitching in a 7-3 game? To keep the game close? Girardi obviously didn’t care about keeping the game close in the 5th inning. Robertson doesn’t look that good either.

    Who would you have put in there? If he put a mop up guy, you’d be hopping up and down about how he definitely wasn’t playing to win.

  558. Jerkface September 29th, 2010 at 9:53 pm

    Swisher is hitting .300 with RISP, I think he knows what he is doing

  559. Matt September 29th, 2010 at 9:53 pm

    Consider that in the Berkman at bat that you needed a hit to score the run, not just a fly ball, and it made the decision to swing on 2-0 even worse.

    Papelbon still has good stuff, he was getting himself in trouble that inning with walks and nibbling. If he happens to make a perfect 2-0 pitch you will still get yourself out, and Berkman has trouble catching up to high and in fastballs like Papelbon ended up throwing him. Not a good matchup for the hitter, and he beat himself as many were probably feeling would happen if he swung in that count.

  560. Benny Blanco September 29th, 2010 at 9:54 pm

    first pitch..1 out.

  561. Doreen September 29th, 2010 at 9:54 pm

    No problem starting Javy. But Javy should not have been in in the 5th; at the very least pulled when he put someone else on.

  562. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2010 at 9:55 pm

    “Anybody who thinks the Yankees are getting pass the first round is crazy!”

    Crazy.

    Does that mean you will automatically turn to something else after the first round because I wouldn’t want the likes of someone like you polluting this forum in the second round.

  563. Ace September 29th, 2010 at 9:55 pm

    The Swish AB was ridiculous.

  564. MG September 29th, 2010 at 9:56 pm

    this game should be at the worst 4-3 and could easily have been tied with Swisher batting with the bases loaded last inning, all GI Joe had to do was pull Vazquez before Hill hit that bomb.

  565. ac1 September 29th, 2010 at 9:56 pm

    a 4 pitch inning with the 3-4-5 hitters?

  566. Bronx Jeers September 29th, 2010 at 9:56 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2010 at 9:51 pm

    If there is a God, Kim Jones will somehow not feel the need to be up in Javy’s face tonight, asking him whether he was disappointed in his outing and whether he thinks it might have affected his chances to make the postseason roster.

    ————————————————————————————————————

    But it would be kind of funny if he just basically gave the same answer as AJ did the other night.

    “You’ve seen what I can do in the postseason. Bases loaded? I’m your man!”

  567. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2010 at 9:56 pm

    “No problem starting Javy. But Javy should not have been in in the 5th; at the very least pulled when he put someone else on.”

    Agree Doreen.

  568. blake September 29th, 2010 at 9:56 pm

    I’ve said many times that I like Girardi as a manager but it has seemed like he and the Yankees have had a tough time in the last month or so deciding exactly what value to place on winning certain games….they’ve throttled up and down often and sometimes mid game.

    It’s a tough act to balance winning vs resting an aging team but sometimes I feel like it would be nice if they would just pick a lane and stay there.

  569. beedogs September 29th, 2010 at 9:56 pm

    WAY TO SWING AT FIRST PITCHES, GUYS!

    PLAYOFF-READY!

  570. Ace September 29th, 2010 at 9:56 pm

    Y wouldn’t the Yanks get past rd 1? When dud Minny become great?

  571. Matt September 29th, 2010 at 9:56 pm

    Just take out all of the regulars, because they clearly are ready to coast into October. Why risk injury when they aren’t grinding out at bats and giving you a chance to win the game anyway.

    Just bring in Brackman or someone and see how they look.

  572. Bx is Burning September 29th, 2010 at 9:56 pm

    Yanks22 = Ruby Boobsday

  573. bruceb September 29th, 2010 at 9:57 pm

    Can anyone tell me what exactly the Yankees were celebrating last night? They should be ashamed of themselves the way they’ve played down the stretch. Tampa has done their best to hand us the division and we still haven’t been good enough to take it. Looks like the only AL East team we’ll finish with a winning record against is the Orioles. George will be turning in his grave watching.

  574. Yank 97 September 29th, 2010 at 9:57 pm

    Swisher is one of our best hitters and historically patient… he shouldn’t need his manager to tell him to take pitches and have a good AB. This isin’t Greg Golson. That AB was brutal and on Swisher

  575. yanks22 September 29th, 2010 at 9:57 pm

    trisha, the Yankees suck! Since late August they have been the second worse team in baseball! That is beyond pathetic!

  576. beedogs September 29th, 2010 at 9:57 pm

    Also, trisha, seriously, drop the holier-than-thou attitude. It’s really getting tiresome.

  577. Captain Clutch September 29th, 2010 at 9:58 pm

    Girardi should get the lineup out of there and off the turf. They are swinging away like this game doesn’t mean anything. You know exactly how their manager has played it.

  578. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2010 at 9:58 pm

    We’ve played better against Minny than Texas this season. I’d prefer to get Minny in the first round. But that would mean we don’t get HFA.

    What’s a mother to do?

  579. G-C September 29th, 2010 at 9:58 pm

    Cano and Swisher are probably going to end up having worse overall years than they did last year despite the All Star appearances and all the goodwill and hype.

    Kind of hard to believe.

  580. NYY fan in NH September 29th, 2010 at 9:58 pm

    Still not convinced this team can go far in the playoffs. Prove me wrong, but they’ve been a .500 team or worse for quite some time now.

  581. MG September 29th, 2010 at 9:58 pm

    blake, we both said earlier today that if they really wanted a shot at HFA to play tonight with the regulars and play it to win. Once again Girardi went halfway and decided to keep Vazquez out there way, way too long. I hate being a complainer but it’s completely baffling to me why he will go batter to batter with relievers sometimes and then leave a guy in to get killed like he did tonight or the other day with Burnett.

  582. stuart a September 29th, 2010 at 9:58 pm

    what was that 5 pitch top of the 7th..

    if you think they are going to hit there way to wins they are delusional.

    need to make pitchers throw alot of pitches and look for mistakes.

    cano is in total hack mode.. he is losing it again.

    swish lost the game with that 1 AB. first pitch bases loaded gidp….ballgame for the scholar….why would he swing at the first pitch unless it was belt high over the plate, but nah swing at the power slider at your knees………………………

    the only thing damon and matsui bring was the patience……………….

  583. BTX September 29th, 2010 at 9:59 pm

    The hitters look like they want to go home

    A-Rod provides our only big hit… better get used to that team. If he doesn’t carry us again, we’re screwed. He seems to be the only one who wants to get big hits.

  584. stuart a September 29th, 2010 at 9:59 pm

    yep gc you are right. swishers 245 last year is better then his 286 this year in your world…….

  585. G-C September 29th, 2010 at 9:59 pm

    “We’ve played better against Minny than Texas this season. I’d prefer to get Minny in the first round. But that would mean we don’t get HFA.”

    __________________________________________

    I always prefer to play the team we’ve played worse against.

    We beat Cleveland 6-0 in the season series in 2007 and look what happened there.

    I don’t like the Minnesota matchup. We’ve beaten them too many times in the first round over the past decade that I feel like its going to come back around eventually.

  586. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2010 at 9:59 pm

    “Also, trisha, seriously, drop the holier-than-thou attitude. It’s really getting tiresome.”

    But I am holider than thou beedogs.

  587. LGY September 29th, 2010 at 9:59 pm

    How is Cano’s 2010 worse than 2009?

  588. BBFan September 29th, 2010 at 9:59 pm

    “Anybody who thinks the Yankees are getting pass the first round is crazy!

    Anybody who thinks the Yankees are NOT getting past the first round is crazy!

  589. Rich in NJ September 29th, 2010 at 10:00 pm

    “Cano and Swisher are probably going to end up having worse overall years than they did last year despite the All Star appearances and all the goodwill and hype.”

    Cano’s OPS+

    2009: 120
    2010: 138

    Huh?

  590. Cashmoney September 29th, 2010 at 10:01 pm

    2-4 record with 6.75 era down the stretch in 2004, from Aug 6-Sept 30 2004

    2-6 record with 5.89 era down the stretch in 2008 , from Aug 23-Sept 30 2008

    1-2 record with 6.31 era 45 ip 53 hits! 22 bb! in 2010, from july 1-Sept 30 2010

    Post season Javy
    4 games 1-1 , 10.34 ERA ! 15 IP , 24 hits! 18 ER!!! 10BB !

    Do you want this man to be on your playoff roster?

  591. BTX September 29th, 2010 at 10:01 pm

    “Cano and Swisher are probably going to end up having worse overall years than they did last year despite the All Star appearances and all the goodwill and hype.”

    Yeah, it really is amazing. As much praise as we heap on them for their years this year, they were better last year. Swish has basically turned walks into singles. Cano is going to have a lower BA, less doubles. He’ll have a couple more HRs and obviously RBIs because of the spot he is in, but they were better last year.

  592. Cashman needs to go September 29th, 2010 at 10:01 pm

    btw – i’m not hating on swisher – i actually like him…but if he has another postseason like last year are you all ready to give him another pass?

  593. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2010 at 10:01 pm

    “Anybody who thinks the Yankees are NOT getting past the first round is crazy!”

    Amen.

  594. NYY fan in NH September 29th, 2010 at 10:02 pm

    “Anybody who thinks the Yankees are getting pass the first round is crazy!

    Anybody who thinks the Yankees are NOT getting past the first round is crazy
    ————————————————————–

    well I guess that makes it a 50-50 shot then. Just like the .500 baseball they’ve been playing since the allstar break.

  595. G-C September 29th, 2010 at 10:02 pm

    Rich and LGY, I wasn’t considering league adjusted numbers when I said that, just raw numbers. My bad.

  596. MG September 29th, 2010 at 10:02 pm

    Robbie Cano carried the team on his back for the 1st half and is having an MVP caliber year. For anyone to say he isn’t doing his job just doesn’t have a clue…

  597. blake September 29th, 2010 at 10:03 pm

    Never wish to play anybody….just play who you play.

    MG,

    It is curious….especially with the off day tomorrow.

  598. Captain Clutch September 29th, 2010 at 10:03 pm

    Bautista is a joke. He acts like he is supposed to hit a homerun everytime up and whines to the umps about every call. I can’t wait until he fails a drug test and then let’s see who is laughing.

  599. LGY September 29th, 2010 at 10:03 pm

    How are Cano’s raw numbers worse?

  600. CR9 September 29th, 2010 at 10:03 pm

    WHAT is wrong with this Bautista guy?????????????

    Would you people want him posting on this forum or me?

    This Bautista is unbelievable. There’s something seriously wrong with him. Miss a pitch and curse like a maniac. Get an unfavorable call from an umpire, curse like a maniac. Geez!!!!!

  601. Bronx Jeers September 29th, 2010 at 10:04 pm

    Tex should have had that.

    Arod will get the error but it hit him right in the glove.

  602. yanks 27 September 29th, 2010 at 10:04 pm

    I’d prefer the Swisher of 2009 that took pitches and hit .239 over the one that swings at the first pitch and hits .280

  603. Captain Clutch September 29th, 2010 at 10:04 pm

    Who would you have put in there? If he put a mop up guy, you’d be hopping up and down about how he definitely wasn’t playing to win.
    ———-

    If you are going to play the 5th inning like the game doesn’t mean anything then why would you use one of your good bullpen guys an inning later? It doesn’t make any sense.

  604. blake September 29th, 2010 at 10:04 pm

    Tex has to catch that ball….that’s Teixera’s error to me.

  605. West Coast Yankee Fan September 29th, 2010 at 10:04 pm

    Cano will not win the MVP award, his second half numbers dropped too much.

  606. Cashman needs to go September 29th, 2010 at 10:04 pm

    Cashmoney September 29th, 2010 at 10:01 pm
    2-4 record with 6.75 era down the stretch in 2004, from Aug 6-Sept 30 2004

    2-6 record with 5.89 era down the stretch in 2008 , from Aug 23-Sept 30 2008

    1-2 record with 6.31 era 45 ip 53 hits! 22 bb! in 2010, from july 1-Sept 30 2010

    Post season Javy
    4 games 1-1 , 10.34 ERA ! 15 IP , 24 hits! 18 ER!!! 10BB !

    Do you want this man to be on your playoff roster?

    **********************

    and this is why if cashman didn’t have the GNP of Austria to go shopping with he would be in the bottom part of competent gm’s – watch both aj and javy will be on the PS roster…

  607. MG September 29th, 2010 at 10:05 pm

    GI Joe must have had too much iced tea to drink in celebration last night, he isn’t having a good night…

  608. CR9 September 29th, 2010 at 10:05 pm

    oh no, let Alex be alright.

    im pretty sure Vermin was out at 3rd.

  609. Rich in NJ September 29th, 2010 at 10:05 pm

    He was out.

  610. jesusmonterofordh September 29th, 2010 at 10:05 pm

    did tex just drop a ball

  611. Ace September 29th, 2010 at 10:06 pm

    Replay. Replay. Replay.

  612. Cashmoney September 29th, 2010 at 10:06 pm

    GNP of Austria
    ———-
    most likely Cambodia

  613. blake September 29th, 2010 at 10:06 pm

    He’s out…..

  614. Captain Clutch September 29th, 2010 at 10:06 pm

    He was out!!! I guess he watches Sunday night baseball.

  615. G-C September 29th, 2010 at 10:06 pm

    They aren’t worse…yet.

    But just considering OPS (which is very superficial) he looks like he’s going to be below his mark of .890 last year at this rate.

    Pretty remarkable considering he was up near .950 for the entire year.

  616. theREALkevin September 29th, 2010 at 10:07 pm

    btx, you’re an idiot. Cano is having a much better season this year than last. he had more doubles last year??? so ****ing what?? more home runs, WAY more RBIs, nearly DOUBLE THE WALK TOTAL, much higher OBP, higher OPS and higher OPS+. avg is 4 points less lol. plus incredible defense. if you think Cano is better in 2009, you’re clueless.

  617. Ace September 29th, 2010 at 10:07 pm

    We should relax. Girardi obv doesn’t care about winning. So we shouldn’t be mad that vaxquez started n he’s his usual awful.

  618. MG September 29th, 2010 at 10:07 pm

    if Chamberlain can throw 96 on the corner why does he need to bounce sliders in the dirt?

  619. blake September 29th, 2010 at 10:07 pm

    Ump missed that one…big K for Joba right there.

  620. Bronx Jeers September 29th, 2010 at 10:07 pm

    did tex just drop a ball

    ————————

    No. Ball was tailing, Tex was stretching, ball hit off his glove.

  621. LGY September 29th, 2010 at 10:08 pm

    Cano is going to lose 30 OPS points in 3 games?

  622. Cashmoney September 29th, 2010 at 10:08 pm

    The notion of Javy doesn’t feel the pressure and subsequently crumble down under it is laughable when you look at these stats!

    Every human being feel and handle pressures differently, Javy chokes on it in a baseball context.

  623. MG September 29th, 2010 at 10:08 pm

    I guess that’s why, a mediocre fastball right down the middle with 2 strikes…

  624. Captain Clutch September 29th, 2010 at 10:08 pm

    Of course this loser team scores the gift. The Yanks never take advantage of those.

  625. West Coast Yankee Fan September 29th, 2010 at 10:08 pm

    Cano has had a much better 2010, he will come close to winning the MVP but fall short.

  626. Yogi Mantle September 29th, 2010 at 10:09 pm

    Wells is as classy as the Blow Jays fans are.

    Not at all.

  627. CR9 September 29th, 2010 at 10:09 pm

    Well, now you know Im not BTX either. Because I wouldnt insult Swisher or Cano. Cano has been the MVP of the league. And Swisher has been more aggressive to his advantage and to the team’s advantage.

  628. Captain Clutch September 29th, 2010 at 10:09 pm

    The Yanks should get used to baserunners running wild if Posada and Cervelli aren’t going to throw anyone out. Letting a batter steal 2 bases in an inning like Boston did is embarrassing. But Wells was definitely out there.

  629. theREALkevin September 29th, 2010 at 10:10 pm

    cr9, specifcally yes about that one i was obviously wrong.

  630. West Coast Yankee Fan September 29th, 2010 at 10:10 pm

    I love Cano but he is not the MVP.

  631. Rich in NJ September 29th, 2010 at 10:10 pm

    Do Canadians know that they owe their very existence to our defense umbrella???????????

  632. CR9 September 29th, 2010 at 10:10 pm

    “Yankees suck”

    LOL! Gotta love a bunch of putrid stinky fans who probably also cheer “we love the red sox”

  633. bruceb September 29th, 2010 at 10:11 pm

    And for all those who think Girardi was right to the rest players earlier in the season…why the hell is using them all now chasing a lost cause? This is the time Gaudin, Mitre and all the other pie chuckers we have SHOULD be pitching. Not Joba and Robbo.

  634. Captain Clutch September 29th, 2010 at 10:11 pm

    Wells should try showing as much effort against other teams like he does against the Yanks. Maybe then he would be worth his ridiculous contract. I wonder why he didn’t take this year off like he did last year.

  635. Cashmoney September 29th, 2010 at 10:12 pm

    The Yankees suck chant never made any sense, it’s factually unfounded in the last 20 years.

    why don’t they chant something truthful, like ‘ a bunch rich b.a.s.t.e.r.d.s.’.

  636. Betsy September 29th, 2010 at 10:12 pm

    Joba, lol

    Cano has been an MVP player this year; I don’t care about his OPS – the guy has had a fantastic year, albeith he’s struggling now.

    Swisher is obviously not healthy – and so I ask again: why is this guy in the game? For pete’s sake, just forget the game and get the guys out of there.e

    So our pen isn’t looking so hot lately.

  637. Betsy September 29th, 2010 at 10:13 pm

    That’s not the point; the point is Cano has had an MVP type of season and he most certainly has not been worse than last year. Swisher has been fantastic, but his knees are killing him. Why both are still in the game is beyond me.

  638. CR9 September 29th, 2010 at 10:13 pm

    theRealkevin – i know all of the handles that encourage my boston bashing by heart. i would like to think that they are people that either think along the same lines as me or people that i have converted, but it is more than likely people are just encouraging me so that they can read more of my insane ramblings. Red Lobster, in particular, I feel just mocks me.

    I dont need to make up names to agree with myself, because I know that Im right.

    And anyone that disagrees with me that Bautista is a criminal is not a Yankees fan :)

  639. Bronx Jeers September 29th, 2010 at 10:14 pm

    It’s a shame because this was definitely their best chance to take the division.

    Now they’ll have to sweep in Fenway and hope Tampa splits the series in KC. It’s possible.

    Lose 1 game in Fenway and KC would need to take 3 games. That’s doubtful.

    I mean technically they can still win this game but I don’t think any of us really see that happening the way they’re rushing though their AB’s.

  640. stuart a September 29th, 2010 at 10:15 pm

    cervelli a big fan favorite only has 10 errors and is throwing out almost no one. then again his power is game changing…

    unearned run but does joba ever have a quick 10 pitch inning?

    he is wasting his talent. he is in love with his slider and went to the AJ Burnett school of swing recognition……

    tex should have had that throw…so in summary bad pitching, zero clutch hitting, a nice crisp game……lucky our righty specialist Kearns is in the lineup tonight……..

  641. Tar September 29th, 2010 at 10:15 pm

    I know you don’t want to give away location, but Cervelli set up too late on that hit to Hill.
    Also I don’t believe he set the target high enough. Something about how he jumped up and that whole sequence bothered me.

  642. West Coast Yankee Fan September 29th, 2010 at 10:15 pm

    Betsy
    September 29th, 2010 at 10:12 pm

    Cano has been an MVP player this year; I don’t care about his OPS – the guy has had a fantastic year, albeit he’s struggling now.

    *****************************

    Unfortunately Cano’s second half will probably mean he finishes 3rd or 4th not 1st. Cano’s second half (.294/.364/.498) hasn’t been nearly as good as his first half (.336/.389/.556)

  643. LGY September 29th, 2010 at 10:16 pm

    Offense is not everything with the MVP.

    Cano has been stellar defensively and put up those numbers playing a premium position.

  644. Captain Clutch September 29th, 2010 at 10:17 pm

    The Yanks are swinging like they can’t wait to get out of town. The offense said they wanted to play tonight but they definitely haven’t played like it.

  645. Betsy September 29th, 2010 at 10:17 pm

    Again, that is not the point. He has still has an MVP caliber season and he has not been worse than last year. I don’t care if he gets the MVP or not – without him, this team would be preparing for the off-season.

  646. LGY September 29th, 2010 at 10:17 pm

    7 pitches to get the last 5 outs.

  647. Betsy September 29th, 2010 at 10:17 pm

    Forget the division in Boston and just rest the players……………….

  648. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2010 at 10:18 pm

    “Never wish to play anybody….just play who you play. ”

    Good point.

    Minny has tied the game.

  649. West Coast Yankee Fan September 29th, 2010 at 10:18 pm

    No question about Cano’s value to the team this year. He’s been terrific, especially his defense. What does he have only 3 errors all year?

  650. Betsy September 29th, 2010 at 10:18 pm

    Yes, this offense is really building on last night………………Right, they are just going to turn it on in the playoffs.

  651. Rich in NJ September 29th, 2010 at 10:18 pm

    Cano

    Pre-AS: 342 AB / 27 BB
    Post- AS: 268 AB / 28 BB

    Pitched around in the second half?

  652. Captain Clutch September 29th, 2010 at 10:19 pm

    Joba should enter spring training next year having to earn a spot on the team. They should stop handing it to him and actually make him earn something for once. If he doesn’t make the team let him start the year in AAA. He will never get better until they actually make him work for something.

  653. theREALkevin September 29th, 2010 at 10:19 pm

    “I dont need to make up names to agree with myself”

    i believed mostly everything you said, but this is the very reason why i think you’d do it, and i’m still not convinced. but it really doesn’t matter- doesn’t bother me either way.

    i think you go way overboard with some of your comments about opposing players, for example i would actually agree with you on Bautista cause the guy is obviously trashy. he has thrown tantrums on the field, thought ppl have thrown at him intentionally when they really hadn’t, generally just seems like a jackass.

    but people like darnell mcdonald? just cuz he’s on the red sox you have to insult him personally? the guy could be the nicest guy in the world as far as you know. i’m not going to insult someone just because they play on the red sox, and i think you go overboard and you get into whole “rivalry” way too much. i have no problem with bashing a player, Buchholz for example actually IS a criminal, but i need to actually KNOW something about their character first.

  654. Betsy September 29th, 2010 at 10:20 pm

    It’s disappointing because they had a real chance to take hold of the division, but at this point it is what it is. Minny, Texas – whatever team they face, just beat them.

  655. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2010 at 10:20 pm

    “Yes, this offense is really building on last night………………Right, they are just going to turn it on in the playoffs.”

    Do you have an expectation of an offense automatically building on the night before, no matter the opposition?

  656. blake September 29th, 2010 at 10:21 pm

    “Yes, this offense is really building on last night………………Right, they are just going to turn it on in the playoffs.”

    I’ll repeat what I said earlier….Tampa got 2 hits off Kevin Millwood tonight and 3 hits overall on their way to being shut out.

  657. sunny615 September 29th, 2010 at 10:22 pm

    Wasted opportunity. Coulda taken the division lead.

  658. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2010 at 10:23 pm

    “Yes, this offense is really building on last night………………Right, they are just going to turn it on in the playoffs.”

    Do you happen to remember the 2000 season? I would think you had to be convinced the Yankees weren’t going to make the playoffs, never mind go anywhere in the postseason, if you are sold on the notion of hitting up a storm during the last week of the season.

    Can teams just turn it on in the playoffs? Obviously.

  659. blake September 29th, 2010 at 10:23 pm

    It is however unfortunate about this game if the score holds up and the Yanks don’t rally….a win would have meant 2 of 3 in Boston and a split in KC would have gotten it done.

  660. Betsy September 29th, 2010 at 10:23 pm

    Blake, that’s understood, and I realize the Rays have not exactly been lighting it up, but that has nothing to do with what the Yankees are doing. I’m thinking about the Yankees in the playoffs – what the Rays do means nothing unless we face them in the ALCS. It’s annoying – but it is what it is.

  661. Captain Clutch September 29th, 2010 at 10:23 pm

    Unless someone has a magic switch that is going to be turned on next week this offense is going to have a lot of trouble scoring runs. Especially against Liriano. They will swing at his slider in the dirt all night.

  662. CR9 September 29th, 2010 at 10:24 pm

    theRealKevin – You make valid points. And honestly I dont really care what other handles people think Im using, as long as they dont know the “normal” handle that I use!

    But, I dont need proof about any red sox to call them what I call them. I know it in my heart. When I look at Darnell McDonald – a known steroid user – I can tell that he’s trash. Jed Lowrie, the same.

    My therapist says that it’s “the arrogance of youth” and I said to him I dont understand, Im 30, and he said, you think that you’re always right. To which I responded that I speak objectively and that I even acknowledge that 1% of Bostonians have to be decent people. Not all 100% can be bad, right? And we go around circles and get nowhere.

  663. jacksquat September 29th, 2010 at 10:24 pm

    Not pinch hitting Berkman, Posada or Granderson doesn’t really jive with trying to win the division either. I think Joe doesn’t want to face Lee in a short series either. :)

  664. blake September 29th, 2010 at 10:24 pm

    BTW, will have a good chance to catch Cabrera for the RBI title since he’s done for the season. …he’s only 4 back.

  665. JM September 29th, 2010 at 10:24 pm

    Tampa has not exactly been setting the world on fire.

    If the Yanks had merely played .500 ball over the last two weeks they’d be in first place. But it seems clear to me that management does not really care very much about winning the division.

  666. blake September 29th, 2010 at 10:24 pm

    Arod I mean will.

  667. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2010 at 10:25 pm

    “I’ll repeat what I said earlier….Tampa got 2 hits off Kevin Millwood tonight and 3 hits overall on their way to being shut out.”

    Thanks Blake.

    “Wasted opportunity. Coulda taken the division lead.”

    Sunny, while anything is possible, Cecil owned the Yankees this season. The most runs he ever gave up to us in a game was 3.

  668. NYY fan in NH September 29th, 2010 at 10:25 pm

    can’t wait for this to end tonight.. another lost opportunity because Joe wanted to throw Javy out there with about 10% chance to win the game with him on the mound.. Ridiculous!

  669. Purenyyankee September 29th, 2010 at 10:25 pm

    Tampa is trying to GIVE the division to us and we don’t want it. Amazing. Hopefully, that was the last pitch in a Yankees uniform for that Gutless Vazquez. Mr. Forever 2004 is a disgrace. Whitey Ford at 81 years old would have given us a better effort.

  670. Rich in NJ September 29th, 2010 at 10:25 pm

    Brackman warming!

  671. jesusmonterofordh September 29th, 2010 at 10:26 pm

    WE WANT BRACKMAN

  672. theREALkevin September 29th, 2010 at 10:26 pm

    doesn’t matter blake. some people seem to think the Yankees don’t actually play any other teams in the playoffs, just themselves, or their team from 2009. it doesn’t matter when other teams struggle. doesn’t matter the Rays can’t really hit that well, their staff is shaky other than price. doesn’t matter that Texas has zero experience and has nobody proven after Lee and Lee has never pitched on short rest. doesn’t matter that Minnesota lost to the Yanks last year and their starting staff is absolutely very mediocre outside of liriano. doesn’t matter Minny’s lineup is just OK. doesn’t matter to some people. they can’t look past the Yankees.

  673. Betsy September 29th, 2010 at 10:26 pm

    Yet Joe spoke to his players and they all wanted to go for it………….which I appreciate and respect. To be fair, Javy put them in a hole right away – and that’s hopefully not going to happen with our SP in the playoffs. They had to know that 1 run, 2, 3 – Javy was going to keep giving it up. The quick outs are discouraging, though.

  674. UnKnown September 29th, 2010 at 10:26 pm

    Well the Rays sure left the door wide open for NY to walk right through. 2 wins out of 6 games isn’t going to get it done though. Now the Royals have to beat the Rays at least twice and that is only if and big if the Yanks can sweep the Sux.
    On to Minnesota we go. This was a wrap when CC blew up in the 6th inning last Thursday. Damn

  675. NYY fan in NH September 29th, 2010 at 10:27 pm

    love to see Brackman here.. What is there to lose???

  676. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2010 at 10:27 pm

    “Unless someone has a magic switch that is going to be turned on next week this offense is going to have a lot of trouble scoring runs. Especially against Liriano. They will swing at his slider in the dirt all night.”

    We’ve beaten Liriano. Minny is scuffling as much as the yankees. Here’s your magic switch. Two days off.

  677. Bronx Jeers September 29th, 2010 at 10:27 pm

    Well being down 7-0 has a way of making the offense lose its edge.

    Those aren’t my words they’re Arod’s so if you have an issue with them you can write a letter. :wink:

  678. beedogs September 29th, 2010 at 10:27 pm

    “This Bautista is unbelievable. There’s something seriously wrong with him. Miss a pitch and curse like a maniac. Get an unfavorable call from an umpire, curse like a maniac. Geez!!!!!”

    Nice roid rage.

    Anyone who thinks this former nobody-turned-home run king is legit is kidding themselves.

    His previous career high for HRs is 15. Someone’s been telling him when the “random” tests are coming up.

  679. Tar September 29th, 2010 at 10:28 pm

    “To which I responded that I speak objectively ”

    I guess that makes you an “objective” Yankee Fan.

  680. Captain Clutch September 29th, 2010 at 10:28 pm

    Tampa got 2 hits off Kevin Millwood tonight and 3 hits overall on their way to being shut out.
    ———-

    Who cares what Tampa did tonight, their lineup stinks. The Yanks are playing almost everyone tonight and still look bad swinging at the first or second pitch. The offense hasn’t been great the last month or so.

  681. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2010 at 10:28 pm

    “can’t wait for this to end tonight.. another lost opportunity because Joe wanted to throw Javy out there with about 10% chance to win the game with him on the mound.. Ridiculous!”

    Who did you want out there instead who could have beaten Cecil? Who?

  682. JM September 29th, 2010 at 10:29 pm

    Yes, it’s amazing how much a good starting pitching performance can help an offense…..The Yankees have not been getting a lot of quality starts from their starters lately, unfortunately.

  683. LGY September 29th, 2010 at 10:29 pm

    Late season performance has no impact on playoff performance.

    Once the playoffs start it is a clean slate and anything can happen.

    Even if they were blasting pitchers right now, it wouldn’t mean much to how they will perform in the playoffs.

  684. jesusmonterofordh September 29th, 2010 at 10:29 pm

    bleep you giradri, cc right, you sir are a bleep.

  685. theREALkevin September 29th, 2010 at 10:29 pm

    cr9, needless to say i wish you would base more of your opinions on actual facts. but i realize that’s not always possible for people.

  686. NYY fan in NH September 29th, 2010 at 10:30 pm

    Did Mitre strike out the side??.. Interesting

  687. West Coast Yankee Fan September 29th, 2010 at 10:30 pm

    Pettitte could have pitched on normal rest and had a couple of extra days rest to start game two against probably Minnesota.

  688. Gehrig27 September 29th, 2010 at 10:30 pm

    Thank you Javy for nothing. Send us a card from your new home next year.

  689. blake September 29th, 2010 at 10:31 pm

    5 run rally?

    Start Brackman, Betances, and Pettite this weekend :)

  690. Rich in NJ September 29th, 2010 at 10:31 pm

    “My therapist says that it’s “the arrogance of youth” and I said to him I dont understand, Im 30, and he said, you think that you’re always right. ”

    That reminds me of something I read in a Developmental Psych book years ago:

    “The whole course of human development can be viewed as a continuing decline in egocentrism.”

  691. Betsy September 29th, 2010 at 10:31 pm

    LGY, that’s true – sort of like ST and regular season. It’s just been so frustrating. I remember how fantastic we looked early in the season………….

  692. Bronx Jeers September 29th, 2010 at 10:32 pm

    Even if they were blasting pitchers right now, it wouldn’t mean much to how they will perform in the playoffs.

    ——————————————————————————————————————————-

    True.

    Remember “Murderer’s Row, Then Cano” ?

    Turned out to be “Murderer’s row? These guys blow!”

  693. West Coast Yankee Fan September 29th, 2010 at 10:32 pm

    Good luck Cito!

  694. Purenyyankee September 29th, 2010 at 10:32 pm

    Maybe Stump can pitch his boyfriend, Gaudin all three games in Boston.

  695. JM September 29th, 2010 at 10:33 pm

    The Rays offense is very spotty. And without Longoria, even worse.

  696. Betsy September 29th, 2010 at 10:33 pm

    I might even think of taking Mitre……..or Moseley. No Gaudin…..

  697. tyanksfan36 September 29th, 2010 at 10:33 pm

    That was a good inning by Mitre, I wish Brackman could get into a game, he will probably pitch on sunday when I’m at my friends wedding. I guess I could watch it online if he does. My friends fiance is actually a minor league pitcher for the nationals so I guess that’s good enough.

  698. NYY fan in NH September 29th, 2010 at 10:33 pm

    Who did you want out there instead who could have beaten Cecil? Who?
    ————————————

    rather battle against Cecil down a run or two, but to get down 7 by the 5th inning is tough to come back on Trisha…

  699. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2010 at 10:33 pm

    “Pettitte could have pitched on normal rest and had a couple of extra days rest to start game two against probably Minnesota.”

    Girardi wanted Pettitte to pitch in Boston and Pettitte said he appreciated the rest.

  700. LGY September 29th, 2010 at 10:34 pm

    Pettitte and the organization wanted him to be on normal rest for the playoffs.

  701. West Coast Yankee Fan September 29th, 2010 at 10:35 pm

    Yes and Girardi was wrong.

  702. LGY September 29th, 2010 at 10:35 pm

    Who starts in Boston if Pettitte pitched tonight?

  703. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2010 at 10:35 pm

    “rather battle against Cecil down a run or two, but to get down 7 by the 5th inning is tough to come back on Trisha…”

    Don’t disagree with you. Maybe the ideal would have been to have a very fast hook with Javy and having Mitre and maybe Moseley ready to pitch a few innings.

  704. G-C September 29th, 2010 at 10:36 pm

    “Joba should enter spring training next year having to earn a spot on the team. They should stop handing it to him and actually make him earn something for once. If he doesn’t make the team let him start the year in AAA. He will never get better until they actually make him work for something.”

    __________________________________________

    Joba has done a great job in the second half. 32 1/3 IP, 27 H, 8 BB, 32 Ks, and a 2.80 ERA.

    His K/BB ratio on the year is 72/22, which is pretty outstanding and right back in line with the kind of thing he was doing prior to last year.

    I think he’s earned himself the right to compete for the fifth spot in the rotation next year, particularly based on what I’ve seen in the second half. But I have no doubts that if the bullpen is where he ends up, he’ll be a shutdown reliever for the better part of the year.

  705. m September 29th, 2010 at 10:37 pm

    So, um, everyone who takes steroids is trashy or criminal? You sure?

  706. Ace September 29th, 2010 at 10:37 pm

    Girardi wants it both ways. If ur not gonna try n pitch scrubs like javy u shouldn’t have these guys playing 9 innings

  707. bruceb September 29th, 2010 at 10:37 pm

    Least that’s one more pitcher we can rule out of the post-season. Congratulations, Javy, for doing what you’ve done all season. SUCK.

  708. Bronx Jeers September 29th, 2010 at 10:37 pm

    Pettite starts tonight. Who’s pitching in Boston?

    It’s bad enough AJ’s getting a start. You want AJ, Javy and TBA in the same series?

    What difference does it make if they win 2 out of 3 in Toronto if they’re just going to get pummeled in Fenway?

  709. CR9 September 29th, 2010 at 10:38 pm

    Rich – Without a doubt, that is my main problem. I have problems empathizing with others. I have trouble seeing things from others’ views. For example, I really really really cant understand the big deal about last night. I simply laughed at something, with no intent to be racist, no intent whatsoever. And I cant fathom how anyone could have taken offense to it.

  710. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2010 at 10:38 pm

    “Who starts in Boston if Pettitte pitched tonight?”

    LGY – don’t waste the energy. You get it or you don’t

    ;)

  711. Cashmoney September 29th, 2010 at 10:38 pm

    I think he’s earned himself the right to compete for the fifth spot in the rotation next year.
    —————————
    Would that be contingent upon signing Wood or some other BP guy in support of Drob?

  712. Ace September 29th, 2010 at 10:38 pm

    U will never see Joba start a game for the Yankees. May as well accept reality.

  713. CR9 September 29th, 2010 at 10:39 pm

    “everyone who takes steroids is trashy or criminal? You sure?”

    Yes. Every non-Yankee!

  714. theREALkevin September 29th, 2010 at 10:39 pm

    agreed completely gc. don’t want to get ahead of anything, but Joba seems more focused, and the results have shown that. less antics, less clowning around, more honest assessment of himself in interviews. maybe he’s tired of underachieving with his stuff.

  715. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2010 at 10:39 pm

    “What difference does it make if they win 2 out of 3 in Toronto if they’re just going to get pummeled in Fenway?”

    That’s exactly what I attempted to point out earlier.

  716. LGY September 29th, 2010 at 10:39 pm

    “Yes and Girardi was wrong.”

    —————————————-

    How in the world do you know Girardi is wrong when the decision was mostly based on giving Pettitte some extra rest and lining him up for the playoffs, so he will pitch well in the playoffs.

    It was an organizational decision. You are fooling yourself if you think Girardi made that decision by himself.

    Girardi could order a Peter Lugar spread for after the game and you would find a way to criticize that decision.

  717. JM September 29th, 2010 at 10:39 pm

    I think Joba’s days as a starter are done. Barring a trade, that is.

  718. tyanksfan36 September 29th, 2010 at 10:39 pm

    They had a chance to still be in this game when they had the bases loaded and didn’t bring them all in. They just really have got to get better about bringing runs in. You can have a game with 10+ hits but if you don’t bring them home then there’s no point to all those hits except to raise you BA. I knew they would have trouble with cecil so unless they were going to have CC pitch 2 nights in a row, they weren’t going to win anyway.

  719. blake September 29th, 2010 at 10:41 pm

    Maybe AJ and Javy could throw a simulated game this weekend against each other?

  720. JM September 29th, 2010 at 10:42 pm

    blake September 29th, 2010 at 10:41 pm
    Maybe AJ and Javy could throw a simulated game this weekend against each other?

    ___________________

    Maybe they could throw at each other?

  721. Yankee44 September 29th, 2010 at 10:42 pm

    What would you say is a fair over/under for number of ALDS games won by this team? 1.5?

  722. CR9 September 29th, 2010 at 10:42 pm

    My favorite part about Kenny Singleton is when he changes his voice and yells “Looooooook Oooooout!” out of real concern!

  723. yanks22 September 29th, 2010 at 10:43 pm

    And here comes the “rally” that will fall short!

  724. Yogi Mantle September 29th, 2010 at 10:44 pm

    He was off the base.

  725. JM September 29th, 2010 at 10:44 pm

    By the way, we are going to get a pretty bad storm in the northeast over the next couple of days. Should clear out of the NYC/NJ area by early Friday but the forecast for Friday in Boston is heavy rain and wind. They may have difficulty getting that game in.

  726. Rich in NJ September 29th, 2010 at 10:44 pm

    Ump blew another one.

  727. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 29th, 2010 at 10:44 pm

    Alex was safe

  728. theREALkevin September 29th, 2010 at 10:45 pm

    foot definitely came off the bag….. god i hate MLB umpires…. zero standards, so where’s the motivation to be any good?

  729. Eric UWS September 29th, 2010 at 10:45 pm

    Thank goodness for CC

  730. Yogi Mantle September 29th, 2010 at 10:45 pm

    There it is. I guess Girardi wanted to give “cl*ASSY” Cito a nice send off.

  731. JM September 29th, 2010 at 10:46 pm

    ump must have had dinner reservations.

  732. Captain Clutch September 29th, 2010 at 10:46 pm

    Arod was safe but he should of been running hard. He didn’t bust it out of the box at all.

  733. blake September 29th, 2010 at 10:46 pm

    Missed opportunity tonight….Arod did get #30 and inch closer to the RBI lead so that’s something I guess. Just have to line things up for the post season now this weekend.

  734. sunny615 September 29th, 2010 at 10:47 pm

    Waste. Good decision to start Javy. I bet Moseley would have done the better job keeping us in the game. Good decision Girardi. Paid off. Not.

  735. West Coast Yankee Fan September 29th, 2010 at 10:47 pm

    I get it you don’t and neither does Girardi. You put your best team on the field and try to win the division.

  736. yanks22 September 29th, 2010 at 10:48 pm

    This team fricking blows!

  737. Bronx Jeers September 29th, 2010 at 10:48 pm

    “By the way, we are going to get a pretty bad storm in the northeast over the next couple of days. Should clear out of the NYC/NJ area by early Friday but the forecast for Friday in Boston is heavy rain and wind. They may have difficulty getting that game in.”

    I wouldn’t worry about it. Fenway’s very modern. I’m sure they have an outstanding drainage system.


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