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Greg Golson CF
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Probably won’t play the whole game though.
30 for A-Rod tonight!!!!!!!
Wow, was I wrong! LOL
I did at least have Jete at SS and Cisco at C.
We need two more wins our of our remaining four games. Girardi knows the stakes!
Until we meet again…
must be Girardi wants HFA after all
“I do not need validation from people on a baseball forum to feel my position is a correct position. So I would hardly take the time to come on and be a second voice saying I’m right. ”
I second that line by Trisha as well. I know Im right, and dont need a faux handle to agree with me.
But that is quite the conspiracy therealkevin.
However, I do have one other handle on here, and the other handle is solely used to discuss baseball in a rational manner. No discussion of umpires, Boston, or mentions of my crazy personality “CR9″
Nick not sure if you saw my message this morning. I was wondering if you care what method I use to pay out our bet?
Ledger_Yankees More regulars in there than I would have thought, considering what Girardi said last night about using the off day.
pcaldera Swim goggles. Alone on table. Champagne done. #nyyclubhousehaiku #thedayafterclinching
Not really resting anyone, just Granderson and Gardner out because of Cecil’s splits vs lefties.
so do we hope for vazquez to pitch great tonight (and possibly having him on the PS roster) or do we hope he surrenders the yogurt and assures himself being a spectator in the playoffs (the yankees win either way in case that had a bearing)
i prefer he spits the bit with a 3 inning 8 run debacle and the yankees win 15 – 8…
and the same with aj whenever he pitches again – give me nova and royce ring…i’m almost positive (unfortunately) that gaudin has already received a spot on the ps roster -
RayVT September 29th, 2010 at 4:13 pm
Some of you folks crack me up! Not only is Trisha beautiful, she is brilliant! She has talent & brains
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You convinced me at beautiful
Man, I only had 4 of 9 and not even in the right spots. I guess Girardi really wants to win the division, or at least make it look like it. I think tonight is the night they beat cecil (have they beat him yet this season?) And I too say 30 for Alex.
No one guessed correctly in today’s special edition of GTLU.
Really, no one even came close.
Looks like he wants his starters in there (in the infield), try and get a lead and the he can take them out, maybe?
He is resting both Granderson and Gardner. I guess the lefty figures into that, too.
Wow.
I was SURE Cano would get rest today. I was SURE ARod would DH. Wasn’t sure about anything else, though.
So much for being sure.
Hey Patrick, I was tipped off that you were around, but I was busy this morning. If you’re at the same email address from October I’ll contact you there and we can work out the details, ok?
Erin -
That reminds me – where’s our Haiku guy????? Maybe it was Pete Caldera??
I liked it.
M
I heard a bit of the TB attendance issue yesterday on xm, don’t remember who was speaking. The point made was that same night the Royals and Indians, 2 bottom dwelling teams, had almost double the attendance of a team in position to clinch a trip to the post season. I can see how that would be frustrating to the players, and to management, who have tried various methods to increase attendance.
Nick in SF September 29th, 2010 at 4:22 pm
Hey Patrick, I was tipped off that you were around, but I was busy this morning. If you?re at the same email address from October I?ll contact you there and we can work out the details, ok?
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If its okay with all parties, I can pass along both e-mails
Doreen September 29th, 2010 at 4:23 pm
Erin -
That reminds me ? where?s our Haiku guy????? Maybe it was Pete Caldera??
I liked it.
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Doreen-I did too.
Gotta love the Yankee Haikus.
“Btw, what side of the Girardi discussion are you on?”
CR9-
In general I think Joe’s decision to rest players was an organizational decision made because the Yanks are a conservative organization and did not want to risk further injuries. So I don’t blame Joe for resting the players and I don’t blame the organization either because WINNING THE WORLD SERIES IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN WINNING THE DIVISION, even though winning the division would be nice and one should always compete.
In general I like Joe’s in-game decisions too, although I think that towards the end of a tight pennant race and in the post-season he can be guilty of over-managing and favoring one-run strategies too much, such as changing pitchers too often, pinch-running too often, bunting too often and playing Cervelli (or Molina in the 2009 post-season) too often.
But, big picture, I like Joe, and think a managerial change would be likely to hurt more than help.
If its okay with all parties, I can pass along both e-mails
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I think Nick has my email address. I might have his somewhere around here…
Yes Nick I do have the same address as last October. Jeez… is me paying you money going to be a yearly thing?
I was hoping more than just once a year.
I’ll write to you later, I have to run now, bye bye.
A 15-run cushion for Javy Vazquez in the 1st two innings should work. He could take his chances by pitching to contact for however long he stays on the mound.
Schizophrenia:
distorted reality
Someone has it here
WYH – I agree with your overall assessment of Joe and the organization. I appreciate the decision to rest players in an attempt to keep them as healthy as possible. I also dont usually have a problem with Joe’s in-game moves, but he does indeed have a propensity to overmanage quite a bit.
One thing Ive noticed in the past couple weeks, though – and you may disagree – is that even in the midst of overmanaging in one part of the game, he will fail to make the simple managerial decision in another part of the same game.
kate,
Personally, I hate hearing how perfect the Rays are. Other players may hate the Yankees, but you know they would kill for our salaries and fan support.
Any player who complains about their own fans (unless the fans are acting dumb like throwing things) gets a big slap upside the head from me.
I think he’ll rest more guys in the BOS series. He can’t rest Alex until he hits #30.
Good afternoon everyone,
I almost was in time to take a shot at the special GTLU, but I, along with everyone else, would have been so wrong.
When does Cano get a rest???
MTU,
Did you do a tribute for last nights win? I just wanted to know before checking backwards?
Doesn’t anyone want to GTAH – Guess the Alternate Handle. Hint: the handle doesn’t mention Boston, umpires, or CR9!
Bronx Jeers September 29th, 2010 at 4:30 pm
Schizophrenia:
distorted reality
Someone has it here
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“Any player who complains about their own fans (unless the fans are acting dumb like throwing things) gets a big slap upside the head from me.”
Price and Longoria weren’t really complaining about their fans. They complained that no one went to the games. If you don’t go to the game, there’s a good chance that you’re not really a fan. So in effect, Price and Longoria were complaining that Tampa Bay residents don’t like baseball.
SAS September 29th, 2010 at 4:30 pm
When does Cano get a rest???
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I would imagine he’ll sit out at least one game in Boston.
If they want to play in front of fans, let them demand trades to the Yankees.
I think it would be great if Girardi played the scranton yankees saturday against the red sox on fox.
And 3 points for Manchester United! Chicharito Javier Hernandez scores the winner!
Ok CR9 can we ask questions and get clues for your other handle(s) ? My question is, has this handle posted in any of the threads posted today?
Anyone watching this Mets game? There are no fans there lol It looks like a Marlins day game.
Cano will rest on tomorrow’s off-day, I guess.
The players all seemed to want to play; maybe Joe let them win the arguments this time.
“I think it would be great if Girardi played the scranton yankees saturday against the red sox on fox.”
Still don’t know why FOX even picked up that game. The PHI/ATL and SF/SD games were more than enough. Those games have actual meaning.
Patrick – No more hints! I cannot have others biased against my “normal personality” handle by finding out it ’tis me!
It’s a safe bet that the ticket prices for TB games are quite a bit cheaper than for Yankee games. If people aren’t going to the games, it’s because they don’t care. If you don’t care, you’re not a fan. Simple as that. Price and Longoria need to accept the fact that they play for a team that is located in a market that is not crazy for baseball.
Laura – I Bleed Blue
Another way of looking at it would be that they were complaining about people that don’t even exist.
Lol. I think there were 12K fans the night before. Jumped up to 17K after the tweets.
I heard they’re going to give away 20,000 tickets for this weekend. But it really is hard for people to make it out to that bad location during the week. DP all but called it a dump. Or maybe he actually did.
I was not expecting this lineup.
Crash -
Wouldn’t that be priceless????
Wow.I wasn’t close either.
Doreen,
Are you sending the prize to Girardi?
keithlaw Apologies if this is already out there, but the Angels let scouting director Eddie Bane go
“Doesn’t anyone want to GTAH – Guess the Alternate Handle. Hint: the handle doesn’t mention Boston, umpires, or CR9!
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GreenBeret?
Laura, that’s another thing that PJ let slip. The Rays raised prices a bit because of the bad economy. And they wonder why people can’t come?
CBean September 29th, 2010 at 4:38 pm
I was not expecting this lineup.
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Nobody who played GTLU today did either.
So here’s what some people spent the day kvetching about.
My father always called it borrowing problems. No way to chill until the reality is put out there I guess.
No. Absolutely not Greenberet! I couldnt act that arrogant if I tried. And I cant stand spelling words wrong! I mean, I spell a few words/names wrong here and there, but not in excess!
pretty excited about the game tonight… I am hoping for a high scoring affair in favor of the Yanks. Any time you get revalidated Javy’s suckitude is a good time ! Can’t wait til to unleash venoms against that thief! It’s almost a sure thing he will oblige with another putrid performances.
Garbage time for Javy , so fitting and predictable.
Doreen,
Cano has had maybe one day off all season. Jeter hasn’t had many either even when he couldn’t hit to save his soul.
I think the players want to go for the division title.
I didn’t enter GTLU, but I admit my thoughts weren’t close either. I’m happy though.
Buster_ESPN
Early speculation among some rival executives: The Angels and Red Sox are going to go wallet-to-wallet for the services of Carl Crawford.
Fran -
Do you think I should?
“Hint: the handle doesn’t mention Boston, umpires, or CR9!”
I should clarify that hint. When I say the handle doesnt mention, I mean I never speak about Boston, umpires, or CR9 under the handle. It’s like a “perfectly normal” personality.
Completely opposite of CR9 – the psycho personality
from previous thread: (didn’t see the new one up)
“Is it really plausible to you that a Yankee beat writer would put his job on the line by making up a quote like that? Really?”
Job on the line? It isn’t like he said that an unnamed player said he was going to kill Joe Girardi! That quote is about as benign as you will find. Obviously you don’t have a lot of experience with the inner-workings of the media, since one of the most sacrosanct rules is that a reporter never gives up his source. Now nobody in their right mind is going to be pushing to hear which player purportedly said that!
Look at the Daily News Poll about Clueless Joe, and I think you have your answer. Do I believe that a reporter could have made that up. ABOLUTELY! In addition, I dont believe Yankee players make those kinds of comments to the media. They know better. That team is all on the same page, and they know that their manager is managing to keep them fresh as possible and to win it all.
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“Those armed with faith stands alone in dreaming the impossible and making it the quite plausible.”
Wow, you do blow me away. I want to think you mean the stuff you’re saying. I think’s it’s beautiful.
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Wow Ray VT, you brought tears to my eyes. Thank you for appreciating who I am and also for seeing that my positions are always thought out. What an awesome post that was and if I could find a way to give you a huge cyberhug, I would do it.
I do think differently, and I do think out of the box a lot, but I believe that adds dimension that sometimes needs to be there. That you are able to see all of that and appreciate it for what it is really blows me away.
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU. What an awesome friend!
Early speculation among some rival executives: The Angels and Red Sox are going to go wallet-to-wallet for the services of Carl Crawford.
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Interesting… They could both use him. I hope he goes to the NL so the Yankees don’t have to play against him but I guess between Boston and Anaheim I’d rather see Crawford sign with the Angels.
CR9 -
Bill/Stuckey?
I am pretty sure there is more than one game that Fox has. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if the SF game isn’t on in the West.
No EA!! In the case of Bill D and Stuckey, I couldnt possibly act that arrogant! And in the case of Stuckey, I couldnt be that stupid
“Laura, that’s another thing that PJ let slip. The Rays raised prices a bit because of the bad economy. And they wonder why people can’t come?”
I totally didn’t know that. I’m probably not being sympathetic enough. It’s easy for me to pass judgement. I went to my first game at the new stadium while on a business trip two weeks ago and I had seats a little far right on the 3B side for $100. I make a good living so it was nothing to me. I guess if you are in Tampa Bay and hurting, tickets to see the Rays are not that easy to come by. And let’s not even mention how much food and beer costs. $9 for a beer? Even I was shocked by that …and I’m a cynic.
CR9 has an alter-ego? I’m shocked. He seems so tranquil.
m -
It sure sounded like they do. The off-day on Thursday probably helped their case.
I would be perfectly content to see Crawford go to the Angels.
“arly speculation among some rival executives: The Angels and Red Sox are going to go wallet-to-wallet for the services of Carl Crawford.”
Really? You mean Mike Cameron didn’t solve BOS’ outfield issues?
Wait -
he’s posting here as two people? How??
LOL Bret! I do indeed. I do actually like to have rational discourse when Im not feeling psycho! Isn’t very often, but occasionally!
Stuckey may be a lot of things, but stupid isn’t one of them.
Strange coming from the only man on the planet who believes the umpires wear Red Sox jerseys under their uniforms.
Do you post on this “handle” regularly? Or every once in a while?
Lol Doreen. Like functions, the range and domains?
One person can have multiple handles, but one handle can’t have more than one owner.
This has got to be one of the strangest things I’ve ever seen:
RiverAveBlues How do you wear this? (Via @richardiurilli) http://bit.ly/bvfgoZ
Zman – A couple days a week. However, Im just going to let it go now, because I do not want my “normal personality” handle to be outed – as I dont want others to be biased against my opinions under that handle!
Go back and look for others who use scumbag, dirtpile, and criminal. Usually posts when CR9 is on.
No CR9, please tell us your other s\n!
Nope, m! I dont use anything that my “psycho personality” CR9 uses. That would be too obvious. I dont mention Boston, umpires, CR9 or call people names like dirtpiles
If I had to ballpark CR9′s diagnosis, I’d say Manic Depressive Disorder.
By that premise, CR9 is the handle he uses when he’s feeling manic and highly excitable.
His other handle, although reportedly rational, probably trends negative or depressed.
I suspect it’s a handle that speaks in facts but is sad about the state of the Yankees in his posts.
Doreen,
Maybe you could email Chad and ask him. Joe should know about GTLU. Maybe then he’ll be more considerateof our guesses in the post season
smooth criminal!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....ature=fvsr
Bret – I dont think the Manic Depressive Disorder is still a diagnosis. I think it’s now Bipolar, which is exactly what Ive been diagnosed with. Excellent call
I think I see a Dominican flag on the bill of that hat.
I can’t make out the Red Sox signature but I’d bet it’s Ortiz.
Bronx Jeers September 29th, 2010 at 4:59 pm
I think I see a Dominican flag on the bill of that hat.
I can?t make out the Red Sox signature but I?d bet it?s Ortiz
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Good call-I missed the flag the first time I looked at it. You’re probably right that the Boston signature is Ortiz.
I think I used the traditional classification to highlight your two sides. I did it subconsciously but when I reread my post, I wondered why I didn’t use the term “Bipolar”.
You have an acute case which is caused by genetic damage and worsened by nutritional and environmental factors I believe.
Doreen-I agree with Fran, Girardi should know about GTLU.
CR9 = Bobcat.
Tank September 29th, 2010 at 4:46 pm
Buster_ESPN
Early speculation among some rival executives: The Angels and Red Sox are going to go wallet-to-wallet for the services of Carl Crawford.
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well if thats the case then the redsox win since arte moreno hasn’t gone wallet to wallet to get anyone
ARod
Tex
Sabathia
Manny Ramirez
KRod
he does however like to overspend for questionable talent that no one else is dumb enough to overbid on
gary matthews
tori hunter
brian fuentes
fernando rodney
or go the bargain bin variety
bobby abreu
offseason signing are all busts.
Now AJ is done. their starting rotation is worse than 2009.
m -
I mean, he must be constantly posting?
Brett,
Whatever happened to that dog that used to annoy you?
Bret – If im not mistaken, my therapist seems to think I have a severe case of Bipolar. When I tell him the things I do (about Boston and my wishes for them), he oft times laughs and thinks I’m just joking, but when I say Im serious, well, he says things that arent so flattering….
Doreen – Nope. I dont constantly post. I usually dont post until 12pm for about an hour or two, then after 6 or 6:30 pm until a game is over with.
Don’t try to put a label on CR9′s brand of crazy, he’s just crazy. He’s the type of crazy that if I saw him on the sidewalk I’d start walking in the opposite direction. I’m not even talking about Yoko Ono levels of insanity, I’m putting him in the same group Ted Kaczynski, Timothy McVeigh, Son of Sam, etc.
MY POSTSEASON CHART OFFER TO THE FORUM
Okay, I am willing to set up postseason charts, with a point system. We’ll have a whole bunch of rules and regulations, but there won’t be any variances. You will need to do it the way I ask it to be done.
At the end of the day, the poster who scores the most point will get $100. I will pay it out. If any other posters want to add to the kitty to make it even healthier, so be it.
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Here is how it will go.
1. I will only entertain the series that are happening at any point in time. I will NOT take a submission that says (for example) Yankees beat Twins, Rangers beat Tampa, Yankees beat Rangers, etc., before the postseason even starts. If anyone is interested in having that kind of total guess chart before the season even starts, okay I’ll pay $50 to anyone who gets that one right. If more than one gets it right, then you split the kitty.
2. The charts will be broken down into individual series charts. I will refine this more as I go along, probably using points that I have in the past, but for example in a division series you can either just choose the team you think will win, or you can choose the team you think will win plus give a game spread. You get more points for being correct with the game spread, but you still get points if you choose the winning team. There are people who even like to give scores of games. I find that a lot of work but I will do it if people want to do it. Of course more points if you get that right also. Here is what I will NOT take: Yankees are gloing to beat the Twins tonght. Jeter is going to hit a double in the fourth inning and score Gardner. etc. etc. ec. Thats a little too much information and I just dont have the hours go to through all the games looking for peoples’ predictions in individual innings.
3. Points increase as the level of series increases.
I will set up the charts and give the links to them as displays. I will also update them daily.
Players MUST have their predictions in 1/2 hour before the start of the series. If you are going to guess games scores, those scores must be in 1/2 hour before the individual game begins.
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If anyone is interested in doing this let me know by a show of hands. If there isnt enough or any interest I won’t bother with it. Of course we won’t start it in earnest until we know all of the team matchups. I might even ask Chad if he will set up a special POSTSEASON GUESSES thread so that I dont have to cull through all of the posts. Its easy to miss posts that way.
If you’re in I will at least start making a chart of names.
5 wins to end the season……PRICELESS !
CR9 is a fascinating character.
He is so mean-spirited towards Boston athletes (or anyone from Boston really), likes injuries to them, and has no empathy for any of them.
Yet he loves pets and finds men attractive. Under his tough exterior, he also is capable of serious baseball talk and knows his stuff.
Fascinating guy… that is why I don’t know why people are trying to chase him away. We should encourage him to participate so we learn more about him. Someone needs to do a documentary about him.
EA,
I kicked out one of my roommates who had really been draining me with her nagging and complaining. The other one with the annoying dog followed her out and will be gone at the end of October. It turns out they had plotted to get a place together and once that decision was made the snobby one started to really get too comfy with the way she treated me. She knew she had a back up all along.
mutiny on the homefront!
I’m happy I don’t have to hear her dog anymore.
I was ready to kill it.
j/k.
But seriously, I love animals but can’t stand her dog.
She’s been here 3 months and taken her dog on 0 walks.
90 days, 0 walks.
She’s a slob.
Don Vito A. Bellamo September 29th, 2010 at 5:07 pm
5 wins to end the season……PRICELESS !
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This is CR9
90 days, 0 walks.
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How is that even possible ? That’s like max life sentence for a dog .I am gonna assume you let that thing out sometimes.
Nope. Not Don Vito! And thanks for the feeble attempt at an insult by comparing me to mass murderers, but you wouldnt be able to tell that Im crazy from speaking with me every day or passing me by in the street.
I do a wonderful job of hiding my sickness, and my true feelings usually only come out with my therapist!
Yanks78 is CR9.
Cashmoney,
My backyard is large and fenced in.
Poop everywhere.
Should I keep her security deposit?
Oh, Christ. Im not Yank78. That would be so obvious. And I perfectly understand why others want to chase me away. I would like to chase myself away quite often! You cant imagine living in a nightmare of all NY teams getting cheated and all Bostonians scumpiles getting handed everything!
I am?
Should I keep her security deposit?
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Do you need the money really bad? If not, then I will let it slide, if she is as big of slob and crazy as you think she is, I will let her leave peacefully and be happy about it.
CR9,
Your therapist earns his paycheck.
Bret – Do you still update your NYYRumors Twitter? Or are you waiting till the winter? lol
Cashmoney,
I don’t need the money other than to save for school. I’m paying down debt in preparation to return to college to change careers and study Dietetics. I just want to be debt-free while in school full time so I don’t have to worry about working to pay bills. I’m getting ready to sell my house.
I want to stick her with the bill for the poop in my yard to teach her a lesson about pet care.
Probably useless though.
She’s a big moron.
Bret – He does indeed! The guy says he’s never come across anyone like me! I get the feeling he’s trying to rush me out sometimes, and I wonder if it’s so he can watch Red Sox games
I just had the thought, so I figured I’d post it:
For as much criticism as Girardi has over “overmanaging” wasn’t there also tremendous complaining about Torre sitting on the bench and not doing enough?
You can’t win every game in baseball, there’s no perfect way to play the game. For every loss there will be a complaint it seems.
Yanks 78,
NYYrumors is going to RUN WILD this winter.
I’M DRIVING DOWN TO FENWAY FRIDAY
ANYONE KNOWS WHO WILL START FRIDAY?
(IS IT PETTITTE?)
Ill give my take on the Rays attendance issue. The players on the Rays, save for a few, actually live in the Tampa Bay area more than just during the season.(I think Longoria has a condo here, Matt Joyce comes from Brandon which is kinda in the Tampa area but further out) I assume most of the players rent condos in the area which are close to the stadium. What they dont realize because they arent familiar with the area is that most of their “fans” live in Tampa as opposed to St. Pete which is where the stadium is located.
You really have to know the geography and layout of roads to understand what a chore it is to get to that stadium. Pretty much if you dont live in St. Pete and want to take the most direct route, you have to drive through the downtown Tampa traffic and over the Howard Franklin bridge which is a mile long headache. Once you get to the Tropicana exit, you have to sit and wait at a long light and then go find parking. The trip to the stadium is about an hour or so depending on when you leave. The general parking is always full and a pain to get in and out of so your next best bet is a small lot somewhere around the stadium for about $10. The stadium itself is not that bad, there really is no bad seat in the house and the ticket prices are not outrageous (beer and food is expensive however but people seem to not mind cause the lines are crazy long all the time)
If you wait to leave until the game is over then it will probably take an hour and half to get home. The bridge is almost always at a standstill on the way home. It just makes for a long night especially if you worked all day.
Their TV ratings are high, my dad watches them everyday.
I suggest David Price and Longoria take the long trip to and from the stadium and maybe theyll be more sympathetic to their “fans”
a last note is that most people that live in florida or tampa/st.pete are transplants who already have a favorite team and arent going to support the Rays.
The team did great when A-hole wasn’t playing. Well, let him play tonight and get his personal 30 HRs and the team will (probably) lose. In Boston, hold him out and we’ll win.
Are we hoping for a Wild Card so we can play Minnesota rather than Texas? Mn does great in their home park, so that might not be a sure thing.
On the other hand, Yanks have so far not shown they can beat a good team (e.g., Tampa, Texas, Toronto).
Betting here is the Yanks do NOT make it to a World Series.
Bret, try to stick her with half of the deposit then , that seem to be a fair return in what you had to do.
Good luck with school though, I am so glad i am done with higher academics.
You guys wanna laugh? i bought last week yankees pajamas
it’s actually very comfortable to sleep with
@cr9 How exactly do you hide your iliness?
Yanks78September 29th, 2010 at 5:07 pmCR9 is a fascinating character.
He is so mean-spirited towards Boston athletes (or anyone from Boston really), likes injuries to them, and has no empathy for any of them.
Yet he loves pets and finds men attractive. Under his tough exterior, he also is capable of serious baseball talk and knows his stuff.
Fascinating guy… that is why I don’t know why people are trying to chase him away. We should encourage him to participate so we learn more about him. Someone needs to do a documentary about him.
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This would be my guess.
They let Charles Manson produce a CD in prison.
Just sayin’
I don’t get all the knocks on Rays attendance. I think FL economy has been depressed for the last 4 years. The stadium is reported a nightmare place to get to . We all know how shat it looks inside and they wham you with cowbells and artificial noises on top of that.
I can understand why ppl don’t go, prioritize not to go and too poor to go.
“For as much criticism as Girardi has over “overmanaging” wasn’t there also tremendous complaining about Torre sitting on the bench and not doing enough?”
Yeah that is why people ready to push Girardi out the door to ChiTown should realize there are no perfect managers.
Torre was the polar opposite of Girardi, yet fans wanted Torre gone and now want Joe gone a year after winning a WS (and hasn’t even had a chance to defend the title, no less).
Eduardo – I dont speak about sports at all in my daily life. I just avoid sports as a topic of conversation.
jacksquat – I dont post with my other handle at the same time as CR9. And vice versa, I dont post as CR9 when Im the other handle.
And I DONT mention CR9, because I do not want my normal handle to be associated with the psycho handle CR9, and I want my normal views to be appreciated.
# tyanksfan36 September 29th, 2010 at 5:20 pm
Ill give my take on the Rays attendance issue. The players on the Rays, save for a few, actually live in the Tampa Bay area more than just during the season.(I think Longoria has a condo here, Matt Joyce comes from Brandon which is kinda in the Tampa area but further out) I assume most of the players rent condos in the area which are close to the stadium. What they dont realize because they arent familiar with the area is that most of their “fans” live in Tampa as opposed to St. Pete which is where the stadium is located.
You really have to know the geography and layout of roads to understand what a chore it is to get to that stadium. Pretty much if you dont live in St. Pete and want to take the most direct route, you have to drive through the downtown Tampa traffic and over the Howard Franklin bridge which is a mile long headache. Once you get to the Tropicana exit, you have to sit and wait at a long light and then go find parking. The trip to the stadium is about an hour or so depending on when you leave. The general parking is always full and a pain to get in and out of so your next best bet is a small lot somewhere around the stadium for about $10. The stadium itself is not that bad, there really is no bad seat in the house and the ticket prices are not outrageous (beer and food is expensive however but people seem to not mind cause the lines are crazy long all the time)
If you wait to leave until the game is over then it will probably take an hour and half to get home. The bridge is almost always at a standstill on the way home. It just makes for a long night especially if you worked all day.
Their TV ratings are high, my dad watches them everyday.
I suggest David Price and Longoria take the long trip to and from the stadium and maybe theyll be more sympathetic to their “fans”
a last note is that most people that live in florida or tampa/st.pete are transplants who already have a favorite team and arent going to support the Rays.
To get to Yankee stadium you have to sit through crazy traffic both ways unless you take the train in. Parking is pretty hellish. Everything is more expensive. Ever try going to a Giants/Jets football game? Also hell upon earth. Foxboro? Even worse. People ride the Ts to Fenway, which is probably one of the most painful commuting experiences ever.
Fans will suck up most bad traffic to go to their team of choice.
Rays TV ratings are near the top of the league too
The Yankees will be attending a 3-day funeral this weekend ……….
http://bostondirtdogs.boston.c.....x_DirtDogs
senior citizens don’t go out after dark in Florida=bad attendance
I have Yankee pj bottoms. I got ‘em at Mo’s. (Modell’s). Very comfy. Nice even. White with the blue NY.
My daughters have the same ones.
And my hubby has blue ones with white NY.
He also has swim trunks blue with a white pattern with almost indiscernible NY design.
We’re most comfortable wearing our Yankees gear in-house.
(Or poolside!)
When you put an expansion franchise in a retirement community, what do you expect?
Florida is a Spring Training state. Fans of the Yanks, Sox, Cards, Reds, Mets, Phillies, Cubs, etc. inhabit the whole state.
Move the team to Myrtle Beach or Oklahoma City.
I can’t say I’m surprised; if Joe rested mosts of the guys, he’d have to explain why he said he’s still going for the division.
However, Swish should not be in the lineup as his knee could use a rest. I think Cano needs a rest as well.
Bret The Hitman says:
September 29, 2010 at 5:14 pm
CR9,
Your therapist earns his paycheck.
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Clearly not. CR9 is completely insane, that therapist hasn’t even put a dent in him.
Also, all of you guessing who the other CR9 is, dont bother, he has several other names
If the Rays started their games earlier and put early bird signs up outside the stadium they would pack that place.
tyanksfan36 September 29th, 2010 at 5:20 pm
I’ve made that trip several times, albeit from Crystal River (50 mi N of Tampa). It isn’t fun, but I didn’t have to do it very often so I wasn’t as impatient as most fans I’m sure. And yes the economy is shot down there, but there is still plenty of retirement money to watch the games, but the TV is more convenient.
I guess I can only give my own narrow perspective. My parents retired to FL and became original Devil Rays fans (despite being born and raised in the Bronx, they were Brooklyn Dodgers fans). We used to attend games when we were visiting, and from the St pete side, it was easy to get to.
My mom is now a widow in her mid 80s and no longer attends games in person, but she watches the games faithfully. There are a ton of old people in FL, its hard for them to attend games. They did have a program for awhile called the Silver Rays to try to encourage Sr attendance.
I feel like the team has tried as best they could to make the Rays be successful, but it just is not the right location.
Well until the folks realized there wasn’t a buffet or bingo inside.
personal hatred aside, i have take AJ over Javy, I believe if he happens to find his command (slim probablity) he still stands a chance against a good hitting team which we will face in the playoff, most likely MN. I think the brass prolly leaning that direction as well.
Doreen September 29th, 2010 at 5:32 pm
I have Yankee pj bottoms. I got ?em at Mo?s. (Modell?s
Now that just isn’t fair! LOL! I am sure you look great in them! LOL! Any pics to share? LOL!
BTW, Doreen I enjoyed your posts today.
spindoc – no I dont. And you can confirm with Chad the screen names that I am not. i.e. Don, Yank78.
“personal hatred aside, i have take AJ over Javy, I believe if he happens to find his command (slim probablity) he still stands a chance against a good hitting team which we will face in the playoff, most likely MN. I think the brass prolly leaning that direction as well.”
Against a team like MIN, you’re prolly right. Vazquez, being a RH flyball pitcher, facing their lefty power bats at the stadium is a recipe for disaster. Lefties have a 1.70 WHIP with 18 HRs against him this year.
I’d take Nova honestly, just because maybe of the unpredictably factor, but we all know they’re going to use Burnett.
upstate kate September 29th, 2010 at 5:37 pm
That is so true. Tampa is the right place for it if they stay in FL. I’m hoping for a move to Charlotte though! Traffic, crowds & long walks in the heat/rain aren’t especially geared to the elderly.
If the stadium were indoors and allowed people to congregate earlier with easy access and restaurant seating & shops they might attract more.
Spindoc,
Oh yeah?
How much would you charge to listen to CR9 vent for 1 hour in a closed room in possibly a high building?
RayVT -
LOL – No, no pix.
Thanks, I enjoyed posting today. Laundry day and GTLU.
That is, if they want to use a 4th starter. Considering they likely won’t, it’s moot.
It is a no-brainer to go 3-man in the ALDS, however. I imagine that is what they are planning on doing.
CR9,
You obviously go to a terrible therapist. You need to be put on the proper meds and institutionalized until you faithfully take the meds and get the help you sorely need. Do this in the off season and return as a new man. Your nuttiness has gone too far, i.e. you comment last night. You will be glad in long run to get rid of these demons your therapist doesn’t believe you have. Obviously, many people on here will attest to the fact that you need serious help.
but we all know they’re going to use Burnett.
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Yup, if you are inclined to deal with reality , that’s the most plausible scenario.
By the way, here are the latest standings in the 2010 Season Prediction Chart. Who woulda thunk it?
http://members.cox.net/lsdorga.....SEASON.pdf
78 , there is little difference if Nova implodes following by Burnett than vice versa. The leash will be very short either way.
During Spring Training in AZ, now almost entirely in the greater Phoenix area, you can’t buy a seat to the games. People come from all over for it. I buy tix for my son and me way in advance of the game we go to.
The Diamondback surely don’t sell out every night, but I am not here during the season so I don’t really know. They also have a dome which they need due to the heat.
The Rays should look into a place like OK City, Tulsa area. It has a huge population. It certainly isn’t a touristy area, and I think they would love to have them.
RadioKev
you make a good point about sucking up bad traffic to see your favorite team. I think maybe some people use that as an excuse but I know personally that I hate driving which is why I have only gone to see them play the Yankees twice this season. The economy is bad but the ticket prices arent that expensive and the stadium(aside from those horrid cowbells) isnt that bad, there are good seats everywhere. People here are just lazy and would rather watch the games on TV.
“78 , there is little difference if Nova implodes following by Burnett than vice versa. The leash will be very short either way.”
Yeah, you’re right. We know Burnett sucks though. Other teams know it as well. With Nova, maybe you get lucky and he baffles someone from not seeing him.
None of the options are good though. Short leash is the key.
We went to two games in july/august series and we rented a condo on the beach in st. pete so that it would be more convenient to get to the game. it would be a chore if we had gone to those games from home both times. we would probably have spent more time in traffic than total time of both games. It is really easy to get there from the st. pete side because you dont deal with the rush hour traffic in Tampa. I think they should move them but then I would never get to see the Yankees play except on TV.
Isn’t it against the blog rules to have more than one login?
I can’t say I’m surprised; if Joe rested mosts of the guys, he’d have to explain why he said he’s still going for the division.
However, Swish should not be in the lineup as his knee could use a rest. I think Cano needs a rest as well.
So you get to call him a liar either way. Other than cut his schlong off and hand it to you with a ribbon around it Girardi probably never gets it right. Betsy gets it right.
Bret – Agreed! I wear the guy out in the hour!
SAS – I agree I would feel like a new man without the demons hovering over me. However, I did nothing wrong last night. You know Im not anti-semitic, so you can quit with that preposterous allegation!
Have I ever mentioned that I got “fired” by one of my therapists for accusing him of being a Red Sox fan? I accused him, rightfully so. And he responded that “he didnt need my money and to go elsewhere”
Have I ever mentioned that I got “fired” by one of my therapists for accusing him of being a Red Sox fan? I accused him, rightfully so. And he responded that “he didnt need my money and to go elsewhere”
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CR , feel free to pay 180 dollars a hour , my therapy would be watching all the Yankees WS winners together during our session.
How do we know you even go to a therapist? You might be playing everyone here by acting like a true psycho and then getting away with it by pretending you have a shrink. You might just be a sicko who has this forum by the short hairs.
YankeesWFAN
Pettitte will start Fri, Burnett on Sat. TBA on Sunday
20,000 Rays tickets “sold out” in 90 minutes.
People are willing to make the commute when the tickets are free.
Very true boiled. I guess….I have no knowledge of medical terms. But I knew that Bipolar was manic depressive because the therapist explained that’s what it was formerly referred to as. But I guess I could have looked that up online.
Yeah kind of like when the Yankees give blocks of tickets away during day games to school kids. Makes the Stadium look fuller.
New post- Pregame notes: Chasing the division
There are no easy answers with Burnett. If Burnett gets lit up Saturday, what then? If you hold him out of the ALDS, and that’s likely where we are headed, does he pitch in the ALCS when we need four starters? That will surely be questioned, especially after an extended rest not having pitched in almost ten days. And if Girardi does throw him, and he gets bombed which is more likely than not….well.
Pat
they didnt make the commute during rush hour, they reported on the news that people started showing up at 930am. Maybe they wouldnt have money issues if they went to their jobs instead of sitting outside a stadium waiting for free tickets.