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Brandon Tierney and Jody Mac just made me very nervous in terms of what the Yanks intend to do with their rotation.
AJ pitching Saturday means that he’s set up to pitch game 2 of the ALDS, which seems beyond reason that he’d do so. If Phil goes on Sunday, he’s not going until game 4 – and that’s only if CC doesn’t pitch (which I don’t think is very likely).
Betsy – I know there are infinite possibilities, but there is just no way, NO WAY, that the Yankees can start 2010 AJ Burnett in Game 2 of the ALDS. I refuse to believe differently.
I think it would be incredibly stupid to throw AJ in game 4 of the ALDS; if we are up, you try and put the hammerlock on the series.
I saw CC
Oops, now I don’t remember what I was going to say
I agree Betsy. Simply because if we are up 2-1 in Game 4 against the Twins, that means we are at home.
You have to put your best team on the field to try and win a Home Game 4 – and that’s CC.
But, for the moment, AJ BETTER NOT start Game 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Otherwise, I’ll really go nuts, and if any of you think Ive gone nuts before, you aint seen nothin’ yet!!
Very bad sign if they do start AJ at all in the LDS, let alone game 2. Shows it is not 100% about winning, it would be either about placating AJ’s ego because they have a long-term commitment to him or are delusional in his abilities and think this is the Burnett of 2009, not the 2010 version with diminished stuff and the one with a 6.67 ERA in his last 25 starts.
AJ has done nothing to warrant starting agame in the ALDS…what a slap in the face that would be to Andy and Phil.
I don’t think he deserves a start in the ALCS either, but I could see that happening.
worst part is, I feel horrible insulting AJ and Javier. My only hope is that if they do see action in the playoffs, they have a 180 degree turnaround and perform unexpectedly well, and shut up their detractors – including me!
Then I can not figure out why AJ is going Saturday and why Phil may pitch Sunday. That would leave Phil basically out of the mix for the ALDS
There’s another possibility:
It COULD be that they want AJ in the pen, as long relief. If you pitch him on Sunday, he’s available out of the pen in game 2, with regular rest.
You’re not as likely to need him with CC on the mound in game 1, so that’s OK.
Andy starts on Friday, so is likely the game 2 starter (with one extra day of rest).
Hopefully, the only starts AJ receives is Game 4 of the ALCS up 3-0 and Game 4 of the World Series up 3-0!
Kate, absolutely………..but it’s setting up that way.
I don’t think Phil is going on Sunday. I think he might throw an inning or two out of the pen this weekend (and that’s what Joe said in the pregame interview last night). They’re going to rest Phil and not blow his innings limit a whole lot further past where it is now.
I also think, based on what Joe implied, he’s your game 3 ALDS starter.
Betsy – How would pitching Phil on Sunday leave him out of the ALDS mix?
That would mean pitching Friday on normal rest.
And if the playoff series is Wed/Thur/Saturday, then Phil would be in line to make a Game 3 start, right?
Javy, for as bad as he has been lately, has won more than he has lost. He was projected to be the #4 starter, and is more like a #5. IMO, he just doesn’t have it anymore, not thru lack of trying or caring.
AJ has so much potential. He is the #2 pitcher, and has lost more than he has won. If AJ had won 4 or 5 more games, as he should as a #2, the Yankees would have easily won the AL east and had HFA. Girardi says his problem is not injury related.
“worst part is, I feel horrible insulting AJ and Javier. ”
Don’t feel bad, their performance warrants it.
Yanks78 – But they are both NY Yankees. They both go out there and give it their all every time out. And in the case of AJ, we wouldnt have won the 2009 World Series without him. Javier Vazquez – while having done nothing to help this organization – did pitch through injury the entire 2nd half of 2004. Performance doesn’t dictate everything.
Phil will probably go Sunday if the Yankees are in play for the division title……..
I guess Phil could go in game 3 if he pitches Sunday……..I would prefer that he just throw a few innings.
It’s sad that I don’t have enough confidence to feel certain that AJ won’t get a start.
CR9 – Criticizing their 2010 performances has nothing to do with the past. See: Derek Jeter.
We want to win the 2010 WS. To do that, we need to see as little of Burnett/Vazquez as possible. Regardless of anything they did in the past, they are our 2 worst pitchers at the present.
Though if Burnett does get a start, Cashman might be basing it on what he did in 2009.
At this point AJ should be a borderline candidate for the playoff roster. This may seem like an outrageous statement, but he was one of the worst pitchers in the American League in August and September. The idea that he might start a playoff game in a short series boggles my mind. I would rather see Mitre, Nova, or even Gaudin at this point instead of AJ.
Javy is equally bad in my opinion, so I do not want to see him either.
God help us if Andy’s back is a real issue in the ALDS. CC might have to start every other game.
haha, how low has AJ’s value dropped that you (and me for that matter) would rather see Mitre or Gaudin. At this point, I would rather see Nova, altho I doubt that happens.
Come time for the ALCS, someone is coing to turn in a Jim Beattie type performance…..
“Playoff rotation (call me crazy):
CC
Hughes
Pettitte
AJ”
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You’re crazy.
Scott Boras is now representing Rafael Soriano –
YES!!!! How do you like dem apples Tampa Bay? It’ll be nice to watch Grant Ball-four closing games next year (benoit is a FA as well)
“Scott Boras is now representing Rafael Soriano ?
YES!!!! How do you like dem apples Tampa Bay? It?ll be nice to watch Grant Ball-four closing games next year (benoit is a FA as well)”
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Don’t forget that the Red Sox will persue him like crazy if/when they get rid of Papelbon.
Thanks for not answering my question while answering 3-5 from others…
*pursue
AJ was inconsistent towards the end of last year as well ( the whole season really), but he came up huge in the ALDS. They have to at least consider starting AJ in game 2 if they’re at home. If the yankees are in the ALDS as the wild card, I would think they start AJ game 4 at home. CC and AJ to pithc at home, Pettite and Hughes on the road, either way, you have a rested CC for a potential game 5
jacksquat, I assure you that at no point are Sam and I looking at a usernames. Questions are just constantly flowing in and we try to click on one that we have something to write about. Sorry!
Chad
is there an alternate way to view the chat? When I tried to click on it, nothing happened, which I am sure is due to my computer settings.
Sam: I’ll say the Yankees benefit from a big Rays collapse. Tampa loses tonight and then struggles against the Royals this weekend, allowing the Yankees to sneak in front by a game at the end. In a surprise, they get the Rangers at Yankee Stadium on Wednesday night.
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Sam i know its a split second thing when answering questions but the Rays ARE playing the Royals tonight so lets hope the struggles start tonight against the royals ..
Nova as a #2 for 5 innings or until he allows a base runner would make more sense than AJ.
Chuck September 30th, 2010 at 2:25 pm
“Scott Boras is now representing Rafael Soriano ?
YES!!!! How do you like dem apples Tampa Bay? It?ll be nice to watch Grant Ball-four closing games next year (benoit is a FA as well)”
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Don’t forget that the Red Sox will persue him like crazy if/when they get rid of Papelbon.
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hmm, I don’t know about that….i’m not sure they can trade papelbum – i think he is still arbitration eligible and i believe he made somewhere in the 10 million neighborhood this year..so next year it’ll probably be 11 – 12 million – who in their right mind would trade prospects AND cowboy up that kind of cash….
plus if they do trade paps – i would think bard gets the closer role since they have ALOT of other holes to plug – catcher, 3rd base, at least 2 OF positions, DH, bullpen other than closer…..i’m not sure they’d want to spend 12 million dollars per year for 6 years on a closer when they have so many more pressing needs than that (because you know boras will be looking for mariano kind of money and at least 5 or 6 years)
Yanks78 – I agree that Burnett and Javier should not see a start in the postseason. However, I disagree with the notion that it’s alright to insult players based solely on recent performance.
Your example of Derek Jeter is my prime point. He may have struggled mightily this year, but nobody, NOBODY should be throwing Jeter under the bus after all he has done for us fans.
Like I said, AJ helped us win last year and deserves to be treated in kind, and Javier – while he may have done nothing to help this organization – he did risk his career by pitching injured in 2004. Those things CANNOT and SHOULD NOT be overlooked by any fan of the Yankees.
The Royals did sweep the Rays earlier this season in a 4 game series. That was when they were playing good baseball, now they’re scuffling all around so I think there is a chance that the Rays won’t do that well this weekend, at least one could hope.
Crazy news on a slow Yankee day.
Ochocinco had his cereal boxes pulled because the charity number on the box was a misprint. It went to a sex line!
Contador saying the substance came from meat tainted with an illegal steroid.
And an msu football player pled guilty to being the middleman (possession of 104 stolen laptops from the Detroit school system). I know it seems like a minor crime, but these guys and Laptops’ little theft ring make me ill. The idea of stealing educational tools from kids is sickening.
In case anyone is feeling down today in re: to AJ Burnett, just remember that AJ Burnett has 1 World Series ring.
That’s 1 more World Series Ring that Teddy Losegame – he of the frozen head, .200 Batting Average in one WS appearance, and no rings.
Who would I rather have?
AJ Burnett or Teddy Losegame?
AJ AJ AJ AJ AJ AJ AJ AJ ♥
TB’s magic # is 3. If (IF!) we sweep and TB does no better than split the series with the Royals, we’re the AL Champs.
Rays going 2-2 against Royals wouldn’t surprise me, but Yankees sweeping Boston would.
Upstate Kate:
Agree with you on AJ and in particular Javy. I’m certain that neither has quit trying. AJ’s mental shrinkage in the face of adversity seems to indicate that perhaps he can’t handle the pressure of NY.
I too hope Nova is given the start when they need a forth starter and wouldn’t rule it out!
Hope all is well.
Comet
OMG! The apple fell miles away from the tree in the case of Doc Rivers and his son Austin, as Austin has class!! The number 1 recruit, Austin Rivers – son of Doc – has committed to DUKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tyanksfan36 September 30th, 2010 at 2:54 pm
The Royals did sweep the Rays earlier this season in a 4 game series. That was when they were playing good baseball, now they’re scuffling all around so I think there is a chance that the Rays won’t do that well this weekend, at least one could hope.
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I don’t think they swept – i think they split the 4 game series earlier in the season..
rsm,
lol. I was just thinking that we might need the Rays to lose all 4, and we simply need to win 1. That definitely is more likely than us sweeping.
We haven’t won a series in what feels like forever.
CR9 September 30th, 2010 at 2:57 pm
In case anyone is feeling down today in re: to AJ Burnett, just remember that AJ Burnett has 1 World Series ring.
That’s 1 more World Series Ring that Teddy Losegame – he of the frozen head, .200 Batting Average in one WS appearance, and no rings.
Who would I rather have?
AJ Burnett or Teddy Losegame?
AJ AJ AJ AJ AJ AJ AJ AJ ?
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He technically has 2 WS rings (he won one with the Marlins when they beat the Yankees – although he didn’t play in that WS because he was injured)
Hi Comet
all is fine here, just tired of all the rain!
I wont even pretend to have an idea about what makes AJ tick! I used to think he focused better in more important games, now I have no clue what goes on in that noggin.
Cashmoney – Completely forgot! Well, I wont acknowledge that WS anyways, as they shouldnt have won that WS!
But, isnt it a terrific world when AJ Burnett has 2 more rings than the faux “best hitter in baseball history” who lost years of his prime to the military. WaaaaWaaaaaaWaaaaaaaaa BoooooooHoooooooHooooooo for Teddy!
Yankees 3-0 TB 2-2
Yankees 3-0 TB 1-3
Yankees 2-1 TB 1-3
Yankees 2-1 TB 0-4
Yankees 1-2 TB 0-4
I think those are the only scenarios that will give us the East.
Cashman needs to go
Mi malo, couldve sworn it was the Royals that swept them. I guess I was thinking about the Red Sox sweeping the Rays.
Yankees 3-0 TB 0-4 is the best scenario of all.
red sox…royals…same difference
Ouch, kate!
Greinke at least gives them a shot.
Not sure if it was this season or last, but the Royals had leads going into the 8th inning in each game of a series. But the Royals ended up getting swept.
*by the Rays.
j/k M
I reluctantly have to give the sox credit for hanging in there this year
Unfortunately, yes. They deserve credit.
I was surprise to hear that Francona had never received a 1st or 2nd place moy vote.
tyanksfan36 September 30th, 2010 at 3:18 pm
Cashman needs to go
Mi malo, couldve sworn it was the Royals that swept them. I guess I was thinking about the Red Sox sweeping the Rays.
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No Prob – but I like your thinking – lets hope for a royals sweep this series…
Barf. I don’t know what’s written, but how’s this headline at mlb.com?
“Pavano’s leadership shines through for Twins.”
I hope Pavano has twins at home because I thought it was all mauer!
Pavano’s “LEADERSHIP”????????
Holy Toledo, the world’s gone mad.
Speaking of royals sweep – wouldn’t it be ironic if Wilson Betemit is en fuego this series and single handedly wins all 4 games for the royals..via walkoff..he owe’s us
I also think Pete Abraham’s head would explode if that happens (if i recall after angel berroa, betemit was a favorite of his to joke on)
Buster_ESPN FYI:High-ranking exec says Crawford as well-positioned for free agency as any player recently. Predicts he’ll get 7 years, $126m range
thank god for this blog because my teacher for my teaching Elementary school science class is killing me. He is going over a powerpoint on the history of the periodic table of elements. did I mention this is a class for how to teach elementary school students? I didnt learn about the periodic table of elements until high school.
also, maybe I was making a prophetic statement when I spoke of the Royals sweep. I think they can do it.
Actually- joke all you want, but Pavano put together a really solid season with the Twins this year.
17-11, ERA 3.83, 114 Ks, WHIP 1.19
The Yankees would love that line in their rotation right now
The moral of this story: Never underestimate the power of a one-year incentive filled contract
BloggingBombers Interesting note from the Yankees: Since 1978, all but 1 AL pitcher with 21 wins, a .750 win % and and ERA under 3.20 has won the Cy Young.
BloggingBombers The lone exception was Roger Clemens in 1990 (21 W, .778 W%, 1.93 ERA), as he lost the award to Bob Welch (27 W, .818 W%, 2.95 ERA).
here is a bit from the Pavano article
“Pavano doesn’t talk much about his time with the Yankees. But he doesn’t shy away from the discussion when asked, saying that due to the numerous injuries, “I decimated and really hurt a team when I was in New York.” “
The moral of the story: It’s amazing what staying healthy can do!
Erin
are there any interesting notes about talented 2nd basemen w/ beautiful smiles?
tyanksfan36 September 30th, 2010 at 3:49 pm
thank god for this blog because my teacher for my teaching Elementary school science class is killing me. He is going over a powerpoint on the history of the periodic table of elements. did I mention this is a class for how to teach elementary school students? I didnt learn about the periodic table of elements until high school.
also, maybe I was making a prophetic statement when I spoke of the Royals sweep. I think they can do it.
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My next door neighbor has a daughter in the 2nd grade and one of her 2nd grade classes is italian – yes they are teaching 7 year olds new languages already….i think its absolutely ridiculous – and puts a heck of alot of more pressure on them at such an early age – not to mention the parents…..3 hours of homework every night is criminal (not wanting to take a page from CR9′s playbook) – blaming mcdonalds for childhood obesity is fairly accurate but taking away time from children to go in the backyard and run around after school because of all the homewrok they have to do is just as bad…
tyanksfan36 September 30th, 2010 at 3:49 pm
thank god for this blog because my teacher for my teaching Elementary school science class is killing me. He is going over a powerpoint on the history of the periodic table of elements. did I mention this is a class for how to teach elementary school students? I didnt learn about the periodic table of elements until high school.
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Wow-elementray school? I remember learning them in junior high. That was when I discovered science and I don’t get along. LOL
upstate kate September 30th, 2010 at 4:00 pm
Erin
are there any interesting notes about talented 2nd basemen w/ beautiful smiles?
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I don’t know if you saw this article from Hoch-I had posted it earlier:
BryanHoch Yankees.com: Cano at the heart of Yankees’ repeat bid
http://bit.ly/d58Mqy
Cashman needs to go and Erin
No clue why he is going over this stuff, his background is science but i dont think he knows anything about teaching students.
Way off topic, but if anyone is a Flinstones fan, make sure you check out today’s Google doodle.
A teacher giving a 2nd grade student 3 hours of homework is going to hear from lots of parents.
JackCurryYES Baseball and math: If the Rays win 3 of 4 games, the Yankees can’t win the AL East. If Rays go 2-2, Yanks must sweep Bos to finish 1st.
oh jack curry is behind the times…M already told us that
nice article on Robbie
Pavano is having a really good year, and i’m not disparaging that. But leadership?????
we are all ROYALS FANS today !
oops-sorry m. Didn’t realize you had beaten Jack Curry to the punch!
Erin September 30th, 2010 at 4:11 pm
Way off topic, but if anyone is a Flinstones fan, make sure you check out today?s Google doodle.
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Flintstones.
Meet the Flinstones.
They’re the modern stone-age familyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
From the
Town of Bedrock
They’re a page right out of historyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
http://scores.espn.go.com/mlb/.....ity-royals
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Royals 54% chance to win tonight, as per ESPN….A virtual LOCK !
Why do I NEVER notice the google doodle?????
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