PostRain notes: Not what anyone wanted
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Notes on Oct 01, 2010 
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The rain slowed down for a little while tonight, and that’s when Joe Girardi and Brian Cashman joined a group of decision makers in left field. They checked the outfield to make sure it was playable, and found nothing more than wet grass. The dirt itself was solid. The tarp came off and both sides went back inside to prepare for a game.
“We thought we were going to start and then it came back,” Girardi said. “We did everything we could to play this game, and they were great about it… You don’t know what’s going to happen tomorrow. It wouldn’t have been our preference, but there’s nothing we could do. You can’t argue with Mother Nature.”
The Yankees biggest concern is the lineup. Girardi said there are some guys who will be able to play both games tomorrow, but not everyone. He specifically mentioned Alex Rodriguez and Derek Jeter as guys who he would be worried about playing 18 innings on the next-to-last day of the season.
“You would have liked to have been able to play your guys these three days and see where we end up,” he said. “There are a number of guys you could play both games, it’s just something we’ll have to decide. See how guys feel. They got two days off, Curtis (Granderson) got three, and then you’ve got two days off Monday and Tuesday. Let’s just play it by ear tomorrow.”
• Andy Pettitte will face Tim Wakefield in the first game at 4:10 p.m. A.J. Burnett will face Daisuke Matsuzaka in the second game at 9:05. The Red Sox flipped their starters. The Yankees kept the same order.
• Obviously Jorge Posada will catch only once game. “Probably stick him with Pettitte,” Girardi said.
• The players voted on which day to have the double header. Girardi said Saturday would be an easy choice.
• Girardi said playing a game on Monday’s off day was never an option. It was always a double header, the only question was which day.
• Pettitte never warmed up tonight. Matsuzaka did.
Associated Press photo
I believe they had to schedule it as a doubleheader because the game wouldn’t be made up after the last day of the season since it would not determine a team making or missing the playoffs, only seeding… sox can’t be affording to give away vouchers for a rainout for next season since virtually all the games will not make it to a public onsale before being sold out, let alone a yankee game.
I think this would have benefited the yanks even, if the weather was to remain bad in boston, because they would only play the scheduled games and the yanks would virtually get a tiebreaker because of the rays loss today. however, with good weather coming, just looks like a regular double header.
m,
Haha, no. I’ve been asked that before. I gather my s\n is similar to that guy, but no, I am not him. I actually used to post under BX44 prior to registration.
BTW, sorry for all the drama that night. That’s what I get for trying to defend CR9! lol
It stinks, but you deal with it…………and I’m glad Andy never warmed up.
I would not play Alex, Jeter, Swish or Cano both games.
As to Phil, Eiland apparently told Suzyn in the pre-game that Phil was going to pitch 1-3 games tomorrow. We’ll have to wait and see if things change tomorrow.
Great article on Wood…He’s just a very easy guy to root for
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10…..f=baseball
Betsy,
Considering how Hughes has thrown at times this year after long layoffs….I think it actually may be better if he were to start one of these games and just have a normal outing…I really don’t see how 6 innings is going to affect much regarding the rest of his career.
I understand and like the fact that they are protecting him but I think setting an arbitrary number for what is “too much” is somewhat ridiculous…..if he doesn’t start this weekend then he’ll be making his playoff start on like 2 weeks rest. If you throw the innings limits out the window then I’d actually feel better about his start next week if he made a normal one this weekend.
Luckily it still works out that Pettite would be on full rest for Game 2 if he throws tomorrow.
Betsy
Wood is easy to root for because he seems like a nice guy. (doesn’t hurt that he’s been excellent since coming here) I also liked the story from Chad or Sam the other day, about Wood and his son cutting up with each other in the clubhouse.
BX,
LOL. I used to defend him, too. But he’s still nasty to me.
As for the double header, would’ve preferred it on Sunday. Because if the Rays were swept the second one might not be necessary.
I still can’t believe it. I thought the Rays would’ve reduced their magic number by now. But if they don’t want it, we’ll take it.
And I don’t buy that the Rays are playing to avoid Texas. It would be very important to the Rays to win their second AL crown, especially at the expense of the Yankees.
Blake, I always thought that Phil should pitch this weekend – just depends how much. I agree that a few innings more won’t kill him- but if he struggles, just get him out of there.
Joe Girardi, manager of the defending World Series champions, is 2 wins and a Tampa loss away from securing all that a team can secure during regular season play.
Where exactly is the bar if ‘all that a manager can accomplish’ isn’t high enough?
KPB, I don’t recall that story – I didn’t see Chad mention it on the blog.
“I agree that a few innings more won’t kill him- but if he struggles, just get him out of there.”
agreed….I also think that there is a possibility that if its looking like they are going to Minnesota, that they may want to keep the option of him throwing in Game 2 open.
fascinating three way race coming down the stretch between the Giants , Braves and the Padres. If Pods win , they will be 2 behind the giants and 1 game behind Braves in WC with 2 games to go.
I don’t see what the issue would be with Hughes pitching on Sunday if it came down to one game for the division. He would have plenty of rest to start game three of the ALDS.
In Texas…
Blake, if they go to Minny, and Phil throws in game 2, then he also goes in game 5………..I realize Phil has inferor #s at home when compared to the road, but as solid as he appears, if the game goes 5, do you want to put that on the kid’s shoulders? I think he’d go game 3, personally…….
“I don’t see what the issue would be with Hughes pitching on Sunday if it came down to one game for the division. He would have plenty of rest to start game three of the ALDS.”
I don’t either…I think if the Yankees are ahead by a game or tied going in to Sunday then Hughes will start….If they have clinched or Tampa has clinched by Sunday then I think he’ll just get some innings in. I’d be surprised if he threw tomorrow now though because of the likelyhood that the game Sunday will have meaning.
Betsy
I don’t remember what day it was. It was towards the end of one of the posts. There was like one sentence about Wood’s son following him all over the clubhouse and they were ragging on each other.
WC, just the amount of innings………………I am not suggesting he’ll fall apart, but the Yanks need to consider more than just that 1 game on Sunday; it all depends on how they think he is physically. I’m sure Phil will say he’s fine, but it’s up to the Yanks to judge for themselves.
LOL Someone on another board said Phil has to lose weight because he’s chubby. I think he must have confused him with Joba, lol
KPB, aww………that’s so cute. One nice thing about Girardi is how he’s opened up the clubhouse to the families ………….that means a lot to players who almost never see their wives and kids during the year
The Rays owner said it was very important to win the division because they want to hang the banner in the dome.
Even Maddon has been making bold comments all this time about how nobody settles for the WC and winning the division is a statement and such.
Tampa is just reeling, just like the other teams in the AL. All 4 AL playoff teams are under .500 since Mid-September.
Betsy,
I think so too…I’m just saying that they may want to leave it open as an option. Pettite will most likely throw Game 2 regardless of where they are playing. That said….I would absolutely trust Hughes in a game 5, I don’t think he would back away from it at all.
Blake, no – the kid wants the ball, there’s no doubt. He really wanted to pitch last Sunday instead of against the Jays ………….love that competitiveness. You could see that competitiveness every time he was skipped – it ticked him off, lol.
I’m sure the Yankees are leaving everything open, as well they should.
Well I’m out…probably be up late tomorrow night so I’m going to bed
Later Louhd.
Night, Blake!
The Yankees have won 1 of their last 7 series. Things are set-up well where all we need to do is win 1 series and we steal everything (HFA, division) despite out poor play as of late… but they still have to go out there and win games.
Can KC steal one more from TB? That’s the big one. It will be much easier to get this done if we don’t have to sweep BOS to do it…
Hi,
Back from dinner and nothing happened…lol. The Rays lost. I am not a fan of doubleheaders especially ones that start so late, but I will be able to watch the Fox game if it is on here. It may not be in favor of a West Coast game in the NL.
Tampa has actually fared pretty well result wise with Lee . Lee has a 0-3 record and 4.56 era, he is 2-0 with 3.09 era against the Yanks.
My math is rusty, between how long I’ve been up and a couple of beers. But, if TB loses 1 more and NYY win two we get the division right?
I’m stuck with the Atlanta game on Fox tomorrow. Hooray!!!! (NOT)
But, if TB loses 1 more and NYY win two we get the division right?
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yes
Well, well, look who’s back in first place, with the Rays reeling, and the Twins continueing to flop.
It’s not just the fact the Ray’s are losing, but, they are being shut out by one of the worst teams in baseball. If any team is backing into the PS, it’s the Ray’s.
It’s all in the Yankees hands, if they truely want the division, go out and take it Boston this weekend.
It will be fun playing in MN., the temp tomorrow will be 27 at game time. So much for a new stadium, less the dome, burrrrrrr.
Cashmoney
Thanks
Only in California could they screw up the perfect story in baseball.
They have Hu at shortstop when every baseball fan in the world knows that who is on first base.
GB7
What
Good evening KPB. I am going to check out Fox at the commercial, but I am betting on a West Coast game.
Some people are too young to know what GB7 said. Yes, Who is on first.
What’s on 2nd. We haven’t gotten that far KPB.
Abbott & Costello – great routine on baseball.
Big Al
I was joking. I was trying to throw the lead back to GB for the punch line.
I Don’t Know …………
Sorry …………
GB7
Sorry. Love the bit and got excited!!
Hu doesn’t know that joke?
What’s His Name …………
KPB, have you ever seen the Shakespearean version of “Who’s On First”? I piss my pants every time I watch it.
Um, we need to play all three remaining games to have the best chance to win TWO of them at minimum. This should be obvious by now!
I’m going out to see a late show, I’m disgusted at the acts of betrayal on this forum!
No, no, I love you. Goodnight.
SAS
Hello, hope you had a good night out. I live in La, so I guess that’s close enough to figure I want to see the Braves play.
Later folks, have a good night.
Yup, we get SF/SD game. sobs.
Fox says SF/SD, not Atlanta, KPB
GB7
It sounds kind of familiar. But I’d be lying if I said for sure. I’ll have to look it up.
Go Giants!
My husband is in a bridge tournament so I went out with a female friend. My back won’t allow me to play in tournaments anymore.
KPB,
I read it as LA, not La.
Old age is swell
SAS
My La is Louisiana. Sorry for the confusion.
Shakespeare’s “Who’s On First”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related
SAS
Your one of the sane ones here, so no bridge jumping. Bad back or not.
completely irrelevant to baseball, but I am watching Shawshank redemption again, that movie makes feel good about humanity.
KPB,
My back is too bad to jump from a bridge. Also, I have been through these wars just a few times before….since about 1951 when there was one playoff, the World Series.
GB7
Just finished watching it. Love it!! I must have been told about it, is why it sounded familiar. I have never heard it. Thanks, that was very well done. I’d like to know how long it took to practice to get it right.
KPB, glad you enjoyed it. Some funny stuff.
SAS
I would have loved to have been able to watch Joe D. and Mantle on the same field.
OK everyone, have a very good night. Get ready for a crazy day tomorrow.
It was just normal to me…lol. We got a TV in 1949 I think. Those teams were awesome, and somehow I don’t remember so many guys on the DL, and you know they did have innings limits. It was actually a very different game.
Same with football. Although I didn’t watch much football, I do remember players playing offense and defense.
Speaking of Joe D, if I am seeing the numbers correctly, in 1937 he had 167 RBI. That’s insane.
Wow so what does Girardi do with the guys that he doesn’t want to play 2 games. Does he play them behind Pettitte and along with the favorable pitching matchup of the two games really go for that WIN? OR Does he play them behind AJ knowing that this is the game “on paper” where we are going to need more runs to win it?
Tough Decisions
# KPB October 2nd, 2010 at 1:04 am
Speaking of Joe D, if I am seeing the numbers correctly, in 1937 he had 167 RBI. That’s insane.
Lou Gehrig had 174 the year Babe Ruth hit 60.
Ruth cleared the bases 60 times and he still drove in 174.
SAS
If I may ask, are you old enough to remember radio programs? And if so, what were your favorites? I recently discovered Jack Benny and can’t get enough. So far I’ve been able to find over 700 of his programs. Haven’t listened to them all yet, but working on it.
Carl
I guess that’s why they’re legends.
But, it’s still awesome to look back at the numbers and wish you could see them live.
# KPB October 2nd, 2010 at 1:14 am
Carl
I guess that’s why they’re legends.
But, it’s still awesome to look back at the numbers and wish you could see them live.
Yeah. All we can do is browse Bref and look at numbers
Goodnight everybody
night
Maybe Girardi should split Jeter & Alex for tomorrow’s DH.
BTW, I didn’t realize Hamilton’s average was so high. A tick under .360. He’s going to make it tough for Robi, although Hamilton didn’t play September, I don’t think he could sustain that level in the hottest month. And Texas did ride him to a division championship.
Hopefully Robi gets some love from the writers, taking defense into consideration as well.
Stupid FOX. SD and the Giants. What an antiquated thing that whole Saturday 1PM to 7PM blackout is.
Awww. Does that mean you wont be able to be here making comments? Heartbreaking.
See what I mean Trisha. You just have to start trouble don’t you?
Poor Twinkies. They’re having their share of tough times this week also. But kudos to the Jays. What a credit they are to the AL East. Nice team.
Unfortunately for you, I have MLB Gameday and Sterling and Waldman on the radio – almost preferable to watching the FOX idiots.
If I were to go back far enough pal, we’d see who started the trouble with all the nasty little shots – and I guarantee you it wasn’t me since I didnt even notice your existence.
I’ll make sure to keep this thread pasted safely away for the next time you spout your stalking crap and nonsense.
Stop whining and crying like a little girl. It’s a sports blog, if you can’t take a little smack talk, go play canasta.
Yeah, and I already have the one where you and your crackpot loser friend had your little juvenile back and forth. That was one thread back. Let’s see which one is more “impressive”.
West Coast Yankee Fan October 1st, 2010 at 10:29 pm
Vineyard – it’s like someone pouring sugar water down your throat – it’s nauseating.”
Arent you the man.
You are a total hypocrite.
“Stop whining and crying like a little girl. It’s a sports blog, if you can’t take a little smack talk, go play canasta.”
I’d suggest you read the TOS. You are probably 1/2 step away from getting thrown off here.
Or don’t read it – even better. Keep it coming.
See here’s the most important thing and how I keep myself in check. The people I really respect on this forum all seem to think you’re playing with half a deck.
Have a blast.
I’m done here.
Gee, that’s just awful! Imagine! Sugar water! Highly offensive! By the way, did you ever consider just ignoring comments you don’t care to respond to? I have noticed you are quite often the object of other bloggers disdain as well. Try it sometime.
Gee Trish. Imagine if I can’t post anymore on the little suburban sports blog. How will I ever live. Oh my. I could care less.
Duly noted that I posted here late tonight with no reference to you at all – and you were the one who started trouble. That’s a fact.
LOL
So, Chad sad A-Rod Turned the TV off after Jim Rome was ripping the pitching staff.
Wally said he turned on Judge Judy.
Daily news says MLBNetwork.
“Rodriguez snatched the clubhouse television remote and switched from ESPN to the MLB Network when Jim Rome began ripping the Yanks’ pitching staff.”
Really nice feel-good story about the Orioles under Buck. I couldn’t be happier for Jeremy Guthrie, who is one of the nicest guys in the game – and extremely talented. When you read the comments after the story you’ll see that there were certainly others who felt the Orioles had fielded a good team but had just not gotten to where we thought they’d be with their team. A bunch of good guys feeling really good about themselves.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....8;c_id=mlb
Seriously, we have the potential next season to be in one hell of a division, top to bottom!
Holy smokes. I thought I was on the last thread. Let it go, guys.
I have no idea what you’re talking about.
Good night.
This blog would be better off without Trisha, and the Earth more than likely.
Also classic, talking up Jeremy Guthrie who leads the league in beaned Yankees. Mostly about the shoulder and wrist area. Very keen spots for injury.
But he’s such a nice guy when not injuring the team I supposedly root for, I cried like 20 times when he took Jeter out for 2 weeks but gave a very sincere explanation about pitching inside after the game
Good morning.
I had the opportunity to spend the evening with a non-baseball fan friend (well, she’s a fan of her son’s baseball, but not MLB) and had a nice evening with her, all the while hoping the Yankees were winning their game.
Alas, no game. Which, I’m thinking, not a bad thing for Andy Pettitte. And I’m glad to see he didn’t even warm up. Before I read here that the players actually decided they wanted to play a doubleheader today rather than Sunday, I was a little perturbed because they have to accommodate FOX, so the second game is at 9. I just think, even with the players okaying it, that that is absolutely NUTS.
Especially since games between the Yankees and Red Sox often approach or exceed 4 hours in length. It is conceivable that they don’t finish the second game til one in the morning or later. And then they have a game Sunday.
It is quite ironic that Girardi spent all that time resting guys and the last three games of the season, they have to squeeze three games into the space of about 24 hours, no? I hate doubleheaders. DHs and 4-game series. They seem to almost always end in a split. Oh, well.
At lest the Rays cooperated. What happened to them having the “easy” schedule down the stretch. That’s why they play the games. And I agree; I dont’ think they’re not trying to win – they have been very vocal about wanted the AL East pennant. So they’ve lost 2. If they win the next two, Yankees have to win 3? If they lose one more, Yankees have to win 1? Is that it? I should know this by now – it’s not like it isn’t mentioned several times a day!
Do the Rays play a day game today? Is it possible to know before the end of the Yankees first game, what they’ll absolutely need to do?
Good morning, Doreen. I believe the Rays play at 7PM so the Yankees need to win the 4PM game, which should be pretty easy considering Wakefield is pitching for the Sox. I think Girardi has to play the regulars now until they are either in or out, there is no more resting players until this is over. Even though we don’t like to admit it, home field advantage is a big thing for the Yankees and it’s right in their sites. But you never know with Girardi, he’s definitely been managing inconsistently for the past month.
Hi MG -
The story in the paper today says now he has to decide who can play both games of the DH. Healthwise, I think you have to consider that ARod shouldn’t play both games, and probably Swisher, maybe Tex. Other than that, well, it is what it is, as they say.
But the rest is not simply to keep them fresh, but to avoid problems in this case. They’ve been so careful with ARod’s hip all season, why risk anything on the second-to-last day of the season? He’s the one guy who I think should definitely not play both games. Unless they take a lead in the first game, a commanding lead, and he can be taken out of the game early.
It does stink to play 3 games in the space of 24 hours though, since tomorrow’s game starts at 1:35.
Doreen, you’re right, I had forgotten that the Sunday game starts at 1:35. This is really stupid of MLB, they should have adjusted the times for today’s games. Given that the 2nd game is going to end after midnight and they have to play again in 12 hours, both teams probably have to use their ‘B’ lineups in the night game. The Yankees just have to hope AJ pitches a gem tonight or the subs rake on Dice K. It is a bad way to end the season when it is so close but it will be interesting to watch.
Oh boy.
A DH starting with our friends at FOX at 4. This should be something.
Is FOX covering both games? The original game was supposed to be on “My9.” I hadn’t thought about what channel the second game would be on.
Lovely. Just lovely.
Feinsand wrote an article featuring AJ today. Sounds like he knows the score. He recently went back to watch videotapes from the beginning of the season when he was going very well. I need ask – what took so long? Glad he did it, but what took so long???
so first game is the old guys, second is the wild guys
the Rays are leaving the door open…lets go Yankees!!!
Good Morning-
Decision on when to play the rained out game was left to the Sox players. They didn’t have to ask the Yankees players for their preference but did so props to them for that.
Rain out also impacted rookie hazing. Dinner out in Boston on a Saturday night looking foolish would have turned up some good pictures I would guess.
Second game is on My9 with pre and post game on YES. Dice K and AJ could make for a very late night.
Three games in 24 hours.
With Tampa losing last night, the Yanks’ number to clinch is three, so they can win the division by sweeping Boston. Or, it Tampa cooperates just a bit more….
It would be grand to win it at Fenway.
Isn’t it ironic that if a couple of things break right today/tonight, AJ could be pitching to give the Yankees the division title and HFA?
The guy who is having the worst season for a starter in the history of the franchise!
You can’t make this stuff up! lol
If the Yankees sweep the games today and Tampa loses again tonight, they can rest everyone as they”ll have HFA and face Texas in NY on Wednesday.
what an opportunity for AJ!
Since rain is a prevelant subject, here’s to a Yankee sweep today. Amazing what a “little” rain can do.
http://picasaweb.google.com/10.....mv-a6gswE#
SJ – Life is filled with ironies.
It’s all there for AJ today. Good luck to him.
beautiful JCPD, thanks for sharing
As always, my pleasure upstate.
JCPD -
Just, wow.
Fox Sports throws a wrench into everything. There’s no reason why the 1st game couldn’t start at 11:00 AM with a liitle more than an hour break before the start of the 2nd game at 4:00 PM with ……. FOX SPORTS.
Can’t have a doubleheader on Sunday because it would interfere with – - – again ……. FOX SPORTS NFL telecasts.
The players are rested from not playing Thursday and last night so an 11:00 AM start wouldn’t be out of line.
Right now the Rays are reeling from 2 losses at K.C. Now is the time to step on their necks if the Yankees truly want HFA regardless of facing Cliff Lee.
They can only get him once in the ALDS. Texas doesn’t want to use him on 3 days rest which he’s never done before and have announced that Tommy Hunter has been added to their starting rotation to go along with Cliff Lee, Colby Lewis, C.J. Wilson, and Hunter.
My thoughts exactly Doreen.
108 stitches -
Would make sense. Since when do baseball schedules and re-scheduling make sense any more? I guess it makes sense to SOMEBODY.
But I think you’re wrong about not having to face Lee twice in an ALDS. would he not be available for a 5th game if it was necessary?
SJ44 October 2nd, 2010 at 8:22 am
Isn’t it ironic that if a couple of things break right today/tonight, AJ could be pitching to give the Yankees the division title and HFA?
The guy who is having the worst season for a starter in the history of the franchise!
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Just had to look up Tim Leary in considering this.
Even in his abysmal 1990, in which he went 9-19 and led the league with 23 wild pitches, Leary posted a 4.11 ERA.
I can’t figure out where else to look in AJ’s defense…
It is ironic….hopefully AJ can take advantage. I’m with MG in saying that until the division is decided you continue to push within reason…they yanks are coming off rest days and have two more before the playoffs start…playing at home would help the Yankees and when you’re ahead in the LC this close to the end of the season you have to try and get it.
It is ironic….hopefully AJ can take advantage. I’m with MG in saying that until the division is decided you continue to push within reason…they yanks are coming off rest days and have two more before the playoffs start…playing at home would help the Yankees and when you’re ahead in the LC this close to the end of the season you have to try and get it.
at least it is in the Yankees’ hands, can’t ask for more than that
AJ is definitely aware of his standing. From the Feinsand article:
“I’ve broken every record in the wrong direction for the Yankees this year so, I mean, it isn’t like we’ve got Cy Young on the mound. But then again, I can go out there and throw a no-hitter at any time, so I have that in the back of my head, too. Confidence is not lost, but I know there are questions. I’m not oblivious to that.”
He also said he know his teammates are probably curious to see whether good AJ or bad AJ shows up at Fenway.
So, hey, at least the guy isn’t oblivious. Gotta give him that. And you have to root for him to have a great game tonight at 9 p.m. for crying out loud!!!! That’s too much time for AJ to have to think.