Moseley, Mitre, Golson, Pena grab final roster spots
Posted by: Sam Borden - Posted in Misc on Oct 05, 2010 
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The Yankees just sent out a release with their official roster for the ALDS. Here’s the breakdown:
Pitchers: Sabathia, Pettitte, Hughes, Burnett, Mitre, Moseley, Logan, Robertson, Chamberlain, Wood, Rivera
Catchers: Posada, Cervelli
Infielders: Teixeira, Cano, Jeter, Rodriguez, Berkman, Pena
Outfielders: Swisher, Granderson, Gardner, Thames, Kearns, Golson
QUICK TAKE ON THE ROSTER: Hello from Minneapolis, where it’s sunny and warm outside. Chad here. One good thing about Sam and I taking different flights out here — we’re on the same flights going home — is that he was safely on the ground when the Yankees announced the roster. I landed and started update on my phone when I saw Sam had taken care of it. That Sam Borden, he’s a good man.
My thought on the roster: Not the way I would have put it together, but I’m not surprised by any of the choices, nor do I think any of them are bad. As I mentioned yesterday, I didn’t expect the Yankees to leave Ramiro Pena out of the mix, but Eduardo Nunez seemed like the most dynamic of the Nunez-Pena-Golson trio.
I thought they Yankees needed to find a way to get Nunez on the bench, if only because he’s the best base stealer of the bunch, and it seems to me that a stolen base is more likely to impact a game than a defensive replacement in the outfield or a defensive role player unlikely to get off the bench. Nunez was 5-for-5 stealing bases for the Yankees this season. Nunez was 0-for-2.
As for the bullpen, my only reason for not picking Dustin Moseley was a concern that he wouldn’t be available to pitch in Games 1 or 2. That might not be much of an issue with A.J. Burnett in the bullpen. If the Yankees need length either Wednesday or Thursday, Burnett could give it to them. Sergio Mitre or Chad Gaudin was a coin flip. Mitre has clearly better numbers, but Gaudin was used so much in September — in situations that seemed custom made for Mitre — that I assumed Gaudin was higher in the pecking order.
One other thing: Here’s the Yankees rotation announcement, copied and pasted directly out of my email inbox.
The Yankees rotation for the 2010 ALDS vs. Minnesota will be:
GM 1 – LHP CC Sabathia
GM 2 – LHP Andy Pettitte
GM 3 – RHP Phil Hughes
I assume that means the Yankees are going with only three starters, but they haven’t quite said so. Given Girardi’s tendency to leave all options open, it’s still worth asking whether he’s committed to Sabathia in Game 4.
Nunez didn’t make it.
I don’t really see the need for three long men. I wish they had been able to get Nova a few more outings out of the pen to see if he could get more comfortable out of the stretch…
I like Pena and Golson being on the roster.
I”m hoping not to use AJ
I’m glad Golson made it………..Moseley over Nova is interesting. He’s obviously not as talented as Nova, but given what the Yankees would ask from him (if he’s in, it’s to steady the ship) – I think he’d probably do a better job than Nova at this point.
I was hoping to see Nunez on the roster, can play multiple positions and gets the bat on the ball.
I thought Nunez might make the roster, but no real surprises.
BENCH??
That’s probably the best roster they could have chosen. You aren’t going to let your backup infielder get many (if any) at bats so you have to pick the better fielder. Moseley, nova, Vazquez, Burnett, mitre, gaudin – eh who cares
Great offseason pickup of Javy. He’s really working out well for us, not making the postseason roster and all.
Trying to derail some of the Kearns hate
You have to parse through to the game logs to find this info, so I admit I may have missed an at bat or two.
In August Kearns had 24 AB against LH and 27 PA. He had a .333 AVG and a .407 OBP vs LHP in August.
more to come on his performance in September/October vs LHP
Nova has been a starter all year and has trouble pitching from the stretch. It would have been foolish to pitch him out of the pen in the post-season.
No Gaudin on the roster begs the question of why was he pitching in so many important September innings?
Not a feather in Girardi’s cap.
If he isn’t good enough to be on the post-season roster, and he’s not, it’s pretty tough to justify his use in so many important September games.
Making the argument they were “trying” to win the division a tougher sell.
Burnett is there in case a starter gets hurt. Nova can’t pitch from the stretch and is too young and inexperienced. Mitre is stretched out Gaudin isn’t.
Mosely is a mild surprise. Would have preferred Nunez over Kearns.
SJ, good points.
You think the Yanks made the right decision with Andy in game #2 ?
LGY,
I don’t hate Kearns….just dislike his abilty to not look like he’s swatting at a pinata blindfolded
I just don’t see what he’s going to do…who is he pinch hitting for? I wouldn’t send him up there right now in place of any hitter in the lineup in any matchup…and he doesn’t really provide much else than that. Personally I would rather them taken Nunez in addition to Pena and has the extra pinch runner.
Best roster to go with because with that lineup if we are worried about a bench then we are in trouble anyway….same thing with pitchers….if Mosely or Mitre are in there then we have problems.
WCYF,
‘Mitre is stretched out’ ? ? ? Was he at Doral recently with the one iron issue in the sand trap with the lush ? ? LOL ! !
I saw Gaudin come in in so many critical spots I was actually starting to believe he was good!
I mean I thought he was a slam dunk for this roster.
Baseball is a funny game and I have been a fan far too long to make a prediction. Would it surprise me if Kearns hit a walk-off to win the series? No.
Don Vito – exactly why I asked posters to check my predictions. Change made.
http://members.cox.net/lsdorga…..SERIES.pdf
1 Day, 6 Hours, and 22 Minutes until Game 1 of the ALDS
SJ,
I agree on Nova now…but had they been able to throw him some out of the pen down the stretch then perhaps he could have gotten a little more comfortable with runners on base. Who knows….
SJ, not good points.
Sometimes you have good points and sometimes not, this time I’d say not.
Girardi pitched Gaudin in big spots in September because he pithced great in August. 13 IP, 1.38ERA. Is it that difficult to comprehend? Then in September he was awful. 9 2/3IP, 7.45ERA, hence he is not on the post season roster. What’s so hard to figure? I see you’re on the bash Girardi for everything and anything bandwagon.
Serge is not stretched out either.
Either Andy or Hughes would’ve been a good choice. What a great problem to have.
I know what SJ thinks, but I was curious about who CB would’ve tabbed for Game 2.
Bronx,
I think I’ve got travel arrangements for two college kids to make. Of course finals bleeds into the holiday travel $ea$on.
I actually trust Mitre now. But Aceves is the one I really miss.
One more time.
http://members.cox.net/lsdorga.....SERIES.pdf
Solid point SJ……It was understood that Javy was out, but Gaudin and all his innings in September while fighting for a division ???? Rest and get healthy and then there’s the Lee factor.
Girardi tried to see if Gaudin/Ring/Vazquez/Nova etc. could get it done and they didn’t.
All of them got opportunities in big spots and didn’t do anything with them.
Very odd. Moseley threw 95 pitches on Sunday. Will he be effective if he has to pitch Wednesday or Thursday? Who’s the long man if Andy has to come out of the game early on Thursday? AJ?
The only reason many Yankee fans wanted Phil in game #2 is because they are scared of him pitching at home. This is hopefully going to be his home park for a long time, so he’ll have to adjust – and now’s as good a time as any. Let’s say he’s bad in game 3 – that’s no guarantee he would have been good in game 2.
I’m not a huge Girardi fan but I agree with this roster. (Cashman and others with input of course)
The Yankees have their short term relievers in Mo, Joba, Wood, Robertson and Logan, they won’t use anyone else in a critical situation. Moseley, Burnett and Gaudin are on there for injury protection, long relief and all are stretched out. Gaudin is not stretched out and Nova isn’t a reliever who can pitch from the stretch.
Makes perfect sense.
I actually like the roster.
I didn’t think Nova would make it – especially not after his relief appearance in Boston. But he will be an interesting guy to look at in the spring, or perhaps he gets dealt. He made a decent showing, albeit he also showed he has things to work on.
I wondered why Mitre didn’t get more use during September and why Gaudin was favored. Gaudin certainly pitched himself out of a post-season roster spot. one would think he would have been the favorite.
I like Moseley in there. he did a good job as a spot starter and before that he was good out of the pen.
With AJ, I guess you can only go so far. He’s not starting; I guess they couldn’t go the step further and leave him off the ALDS roster.
Pena over Nunez not really a surprise – it’s what I figured, although had they gone with Nunez it wouldn’t have been an awful choice.
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m -
I had to read your dream post 3 times before I realized what the word was supposed to be.
Since when can’t Nova pitch from the stretch? You don’t think starters ever pitch from the stretch?
Ok, later!
In September/October the K-Man had 20 at bats and 24 PA vs LHP
He hit .200 with a .333 OBP
When a runner is on first, second and third empty, batters had the following triple slash line vs Nova: .111/.226/.259 , on 31 plate appearances.
The last I checked, when there is a runner on first and second and third empty, even starters pitch from the stretch.
Betsy,
That’s not true. For me personally, Andy was the question mark. Not Phil.
I’ve had Phil’s back the whole time. I have no issues, but it doesn’t take a brain surgeon to figure out that Target would be better for a flyball pitcher like Phil.
It’s not a big deal either way. Three pitchers who’ve had good to great seasons. Winner, winner, chicken dinner.
And I said all along I would be fine with either.
CAN ANYONE GUESS SERIES WINNERS?
Total vs LHP as a Yankee for the K-Man
44 AB/51 PA
.272 AVG/.373 OBP
LGY -
Kearns did do well when he first got to NY. That’s why I said early on, I was ready to be wrong about not wanting him.
I do believe, in his defense, he did get hurt and never really got going again. But if he was at least making contact with the ball, I’d have felt much better. The injury was not to his eyes. He looked completely fooled at the plate when he did come back from the injury.
trisha – true pinstriped blue.
Hi Trisha …
I thought I’d give it a shot …here’s my predictions…thanks !!!
Yankees in 3
Rangers in 4
Phillies in 4
Giants in 3
Go Yankees 2010 !!!
I’m glad Pena made it over Nunez. Likely, the Yanks will never pinch hit for an infielder and the only time Pena would even have to bat would be is if it went extra innings and they pulled say Arod for a pinch runner (which I don’t think or at least hope Girardi doesn’t do in the postseason if he’s not going to run the pinch runner anyway). Thus, Eduardo’s better hitting ability really makes no difference as the first guy off the bench if they need a pinch hit is going to be one of Thames, Berkman, or Kearns likely. Pena is a great fielder and has enough speed to get the job done. I like him alot. He’s come up with some big hits this year. Glad he got rewarded.
If Pena was a Red Sock he’d be their shortstop of the future
Well, if it’s not trouble pitching from the stretch, then it’s something else. But he did seem to hit a wall in all his starts.
“If Pena was a Red Sock he’d be their shortstop of the future”
Let’s trade him there.
Nova isn’t ready yet. He was effective as a rotation fill-in for a while but his last few starts showed he still has some thing to work on before he’s on a postseason roster for the Yanks.
LGY -
In fact, a lot of people fell in love with Kearns early on and there were plenty of conversations on here about how Cash should try and sign him for next year.
A-Rod will never be pinch run for in a playoff game. Girardi might be on the take if that the happened.
Kearns is on the roster because that’s what they traded him for. AJ is on the roster because they’re paying him handsomely.
I know people don’t like them on the roster, but to expect a different result…let’s just say things arent always fair in baseball.
Tyler-
I have no problem with the Yanks leaving Nova off the roster. But it’s not because he can’t pitch from the stretch.
Wave Your Hat October 5th, 2010 at 2:23 pm
“If Pena was a Red Sock he’d be their shortstop of the future”
Let’s trade him there.
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It was a joke but even if they would take him they really don’t have much that I would want back in return. The only young player I would want on their team (besides a guy like Lester) would be Kalish or Westmoreland if he gets healthy. They can keep their rest of their farm system. Guys like Anderson, Bawden, Kelly are grossly overrated.
Doreen/blake
Yeah I know most people on here don’t actually hate Kearns. I was just joking.
I like Nova a lot, and I think he’s capable of great things, but he had the chance to prove himself and didn’t.
I don’t think Nova makes a good reliever. He’s never relieved before and his stuff hasn’t translated as smoothly as Hughes and Chamberlein’s did…. I just don’t think he showed enough down the stretch especially how he was pretty rough in Fenway. He will make a contribution to the Yanks either by being a back end of the rotation guy or being trade bait but his time just hasn’t come yet…
I don’t think Nova makes a good reliever. He’s never relieved before and his stuff hasn’t translated as smoothly as Hughes and Chamberlein’s did…. I just don’t think he showed enough down the stretch especially how he was pretty rough in Fenway. He will make a contribution to the Yanks either by being a back end of the rotation guy or being trade bait but his time just hasn’t come yet…
Go look at Kearns vs Liriano and you won’t question why he’s on the roster…
West Coast Yankee Fan
October 5th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
‘Baseball is a funny game’
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Golf is a funny game too ! ! ! LMAO ! ! !
Mitre and Gaudin are two peas in a pod. If Mitre had gotten Gaudin’s September appearances, and Gaudin’s Mitre’s, they could just as easily had each other’s results in the few innings they had.
Who cares?
Kearns does wear out Twins pitching… besides Matt Capps. 0/10 against Matt Capps… Kind of strange.
I agree with the people here saying Guadin was auditioning in September.. it almost seemed like the whole team was. But I’m also not a person that really cares about winning the division vs. wild card, so it didn’t bother me.
Nova pitched well with no runners on base from a full windup. Less so when runners were on from the stretch. Plus he is too young and inexperienced, he looks rattled out there sometimes. No reason to have him on the roster.
mitre’s stuff is a lot better than Gaudin’s imo. the problem with Mitre is that with rust he tends to elevate the ball and when he’s up in the zone he gets crushed. But I like him with semi-regular use in a short relief role when he can get into a groove and give it his all. He’s been pretty effective in that role this year when he’s not starting or pitching 4-5 innings…
LGY -
I know you were being light-hearted about Kearns.
It’s just frustrating.
But m is right – they were not leaving him off the roster – who is really their alternative? Colin Curtis?
And same with AJ. I never expected them to leave him off the roster entirely.
Its Chad Gaudin Bad Scooter. A guy that has been with 7 teams in his career. He’s not a guy who has ever had long stretches of success in his career.
One good month doesn’t put him in the high leverage usage side of the bullpen.
Under your logic, one bad month shouldn’t put him off the post-season roster. Yet, it did.
Girardi used him too much in September in too many important situations and it was a dumb move.
Accentuated by the fact he’s not on the post-season roster.
When a guy like Gaudin is struggling, like he was in September, you don’t use him in important games. Clearly, Girardi thought otherwise and he turned out to be wrong.
I rip when warranted and Girardi’s overuse of Gaudin in September merits it.
Betsy,
To me, its a slam dunk to have Andy pitch Game 2 so he is able to pitch Game 5 on full rest.
I didn’t see that as a difficult decision to make.
Due to the ineptness of AJ and Javy, they have no choice to go to a three man rotation.
I do like the fact they went with an 11 man pitching staff and added an extra bench piece.
Winner, winner, chicken dinner?
That’s a new one to me but I like it!
Speaking of Target Field, the NYT did an article on the lack of longballs.
Mauer’s got 1 home HR this season. Don’t know if that was off Phil Coke or not.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10.....ref=sports
“I do like the fact they went with an 11 man pitching staff and added an extra bench piece.”
Possibly the most surprising move, but one I am glad they made.
Like the bench spots.
Feel ultra bad for Vazquez, lol
Not very happy about the umpiring crew.
I think one of the September games, I went crazy over Jerry Crawford. Never liked the names Hirschbeck or Demuth or Welke. However, at least no West, Hernandez, or McClelland! Whew!
WCYF-
I don’t have Nova’s minor league splits but for the Yanks Nova pitched better with a runner on first than with the bases empty.
Small sample size and all that but that’s the facts. Now Nova pitched less well with RISP but that could have nothing to do with pitching from the stretch and more to do with his development (or, it could be noise from a small sample).
But the runner on first stats show that he could pitch effectively from the stretch.
What umpire have you not gone crazy over?
Kearns is 2 for 5 against Liriano. Unless I’m looking at the wrong thing. But it says vs. pitcher, career.
SJ, obviously you thought those games were more “important” than the Manager.
rather have Nunez than Kearns
Nova than Mirte
Also, SJ, I’m sure he was trying to catch lightning in a bottle. Gaudin was mostly a starter in his career, no? So you don’t know what you have out of the pen. He looked to be throwing pretty hard coming out of the bullpen this year and had a great August. You never know. If he keeps rolling through September then he’s on the postseason roster. I like Mitre anyhow.
Kearns has had limited exposure to Minny pitching. His 10 ABs against Capps is the most against any of them.
Maybe it’s when runners get on second that gives Nova problems.
Bronx,
There’s this guy who does sports radio nationally. Stein? Anyway, sounds like a therapist or a late night radio guy. But he integrates life lessons, loss of loved ones, and other non-sports stuff into his sports talk.
Not sure if it was him or a caller who came up with that one, but he used it a lot.
Please keep in mind that I was only a captive listener during those times. Trapped in my car.
Tyler, that is an extraordinary question. CB Bucknor may be the only one!
Nova’s sample size is too small to dissect stats, your eyes can tell you what you need to know about him pitching from the stretch. It’s not just me. Also, Nova isn’t a relief pitcher and he’s too inexperienced.
“It’s not just me. ”
Link?
Does Vegas give odds on managers? What would the odds be that Torre ends up with the Mets? Yankees? Cardinals?
Kearns might offer a diferent take on Minny from the short time in Cleveland playing in the same division as them.
Kearns and Berkman’s NL experience might also come in handy if/when they face a NL team.
Conversations I have heard on the radio, Chris Russo Heyman, etc.
I don’t see it as a big deal who makes the team if you’re choosing from a pool of Burnett, Vazquez, Mitre, Nova, Moseley and Gaudin. All of them have had ups and downs this season. So it comes down to which of them have the most experience, upside, match up best against the Twins.
Burnett made it as the fourth starter, in case one of Hughes/Sabathia/Pettitte can’t go. I doubt you see Burnett come out of the bullpen, even in a long relief situation.
Sam,
Thanks for the info. It is nice to see that you are at the ALDS. I assume Chad will be joining you after a day off. The 2 of you do a great job.
SAS: Chad is here today as well. We just took different flights so he was in the air when these announcements came out. Like last year, we’ll be all over the postseason together.
My only concern with Mitre is that he has had a month off. How will that effect him if he is needed?
Liriano named AL Comeback Player of the Year.
Let’s just hope they aren’t tempted to start Kearns against Liriano. Time to play the best 9 and see what happens.
Sam,
Sounds good to me. I joined up in about December so I didn’t have the pleasure last year.
YES! Sam Borden is back!! WoooooooooooooooooHoooooooooooooooo!
We got our 2 good luck reporters reunited, and it feels so good!!!!!!!! Let’s repeat last year, fellas!!!!!!!!!!!!
Chad, according to weather.com, every game is supposed to be sunny (night games i know) in the day and 60-70 degrees. it gets colder at night, but it’ll be a surprisingly good weather series considering the cities.
WCYF,
Chris Russo? All I can say is Nova pitched well facing 109 batters with the bases empty, pitched even better facing 31 batters with a runner on first, but didn’t pitch so well with runners on second and third.
That doesn’t say stretch problem to me. Maybe other problems, but not a problem pitching from the stretch.
Chad’s probably flying to Minny via a layover in Guam.
He’s had some travel issues this season.
jonmorosi Cliff Lee on #Rangers: “I could see myself being here in the future.” #Dallas #Texas #MLB
Like when the Yankees come to Texas to play the Rangers?
Gaudin use was extremely puzzling to me as well. I never had any faith in the guy and never understood why Girardi relied on someone with such horrible career stats for such a long time in an important time of the season. I’m glad to see he’s not on the PS roster and I hope it stays that way for the rest of the post season (if there is a rest of the post season for the Yankees).
the official Torre to the Yankees rumor will start if they fail to make it to the WS
“winner winner chicken dinner” is an expression frequently used on sports center, especially on top 10.
Blake
did I read that prediction chart correctly? You are not picking the Braves?
I think they had to include AJ. It is punishment enough not being a starter for the ALDS, they wouldn’t want to totally demoralize him.
Moseley over Nova is dumb.
At least Gaudin isn’t on the roster.
Do you expect Lee to capitulate before FA starts, pat?
“the official Torre to the Yankees rumor will start if they fail to make it to the WS”
Maybe, but it won’t happen.
I Like Inge October 5th, 2010 at 2:24 pm
A-Rod will never be pinch run for in a playoff game. Girardi might be on the take if that the happened.
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Girardi did it last postseason and I almost threw up in my mouth. Luckily it didn’t hurt them.
Should the Yanks be so lucky, who’s going to start game 4 of the ALCS?
Kate,
Yea, unfortunately. I figured maybe if I picked against them then maybe they’d win.
I’d prefer Nova over Moseley but honestly I doubt Moseley will pitch any innings in this series and I doubt Nova would if he had made the team instead. There just aren’t that many innings in a 5 game series for either guy to matter.
Should the Yanks be so lucky, who’s going to start game 4 of the ALCS?
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Burnett
It’s really the only choice Girardi can make at this point.
# Wave Your Hat October 5th, 2010 at 2:58 pm
Should the Yanks be so lucky, who’s going to start game 4 of the ALCS?
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I would start AJ and have a pitcher warming up in the pen……..when he’s on he’s as good as anyone
“I could see myself being here in the future.”
Translation:”Highest bidder wins my services”
I still wonder if AJ Burnett would be pitching to his capabilities had cashman traded for roy halladay either last season or last winter..
either way had he traded for him we wouldn’t be worried about our postseason starters right about now..
“……..when he’s on he’s as good as anyone”
Which has been virtually never since April.
Primarily, I think Kearns in on the roster for 3 reasons.
(1) The alternatives are entirely uninspiring
(2) If one of the OF get hurt, they feel more comfortable with him stepping to to start than Golson. Kearns has a track record of being an average major leaguer, while Golson has barely been an average minor leaguer
(3) If one of the OF look absolutely lost at the plate like Swish and Damon did last year, he may pinch hit.
CC will start game 4 of the ALCS
LOL! What else is Cliff Lee supposed to say? That’s a very weak answer, given that he answered the question at all. “I could see myself here in the future” If that doesn’t say all you need to know…
# Cashman needs to go October 5th, 2010 at 3:01 pm
I still wonder if AJ Burnett would be pitching to his capabilities had cashman traded for roy halladay either last season or last winter..
either way had he traded for him we wouldn’t be worried about our postseason starters right about now..
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wanted Doc and didn’t care who they gave up to get him..
I just can’t see anyone beating Philly this year. I think they will dominate. Halladay, Oswalt and Hamels and that post-season tested lineup? Brutal.
Joeman I agree about Halladay I was of the same opinion.
pat October 5th, 2010 at 2:54 pm
jonmorosi Cliff Lee on #Rangers: “I could see myself being here in the future.” #Dallas #Texas #MLB
Like when the Yankees come to Texas to play the Rangers?
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I once was dating a girl whom i knew i was going to break up with within days and yet 3 days before the breakup i was sitting with her making christmas plans….
The Yankees have a better team than the Phillies.
“winner winner chicken dinner” is an expression frequently used on sports center, especially on top 10.
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Hmmm… That kind of takes the lustre off it for me. Frankly, I’m not a big chicken guy anyway.
Winner, winner, roast pork dinner ?
Target Field holds 10,000+ less than the Dome and no roof to keep the sound in.
It could seem quiet there this year.
how about CC and 3 days of rain
Winner, winner, chicken dinner is a long-storied phrase.
Boston John Buccigross of ESPN stole the line and uses it because he thinks he sounds cool.
there could be a case made that Hughes is there their #2 SP…..not bad because at season’s start he was their #5 SP
http://www.urbandictionary.com.....n%20Dinner
Origin of Winner, winner…
Read the part at the bottom about Jeff Gordon. Funny.
I met one of the MIT card counting guy in Vegas @ the Mirage. He is banned from all casino games except Poker.
the official Torre to the Yankees rumor will start if they fail to make it to the WS
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Yeah because nothing says “Let’s avoid the early postseason knockout” like the name Joe Torre.
Guy Fieri:
“Winner, winner chicken dinner”
“I’m driving the bus to Flavor Town”.
“Holy-moly, Stromboli”!
“I’ve been stricken by chicken”!
# Cashmoney October 5th, 2010 at 3:12 pm
I met one of the MIT card counting guy in Vegas @ the Mirage. He is banned from all casino games except Poker.
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3:35 PM flight there tomorrow
Nice, where you staying joe?
Can’t wait to see the good folks here implode when Kearns starts tomorrow! lol
# Cashmoney October 5th, 2010 at 3:15 pm
Nice, where you staying joe?
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Bellagio…..I do like The Mirage…same card
# West Coast Yankee Fan October 5th, 2010 at 3:15 pm
Can’t wait to see the good folks here implode when Kearns starts tomorrow! lol
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I can see him starting for sure
What are Kearns’ numbers against Liriano?
I really don’t want to see anyone implode but we are talkin’ Joe Girardi here. Granderson’s hot play as of late might go right out the window to the left-right matchup and that damn black book.
thanks M
interesting, especially the Jeff Gordon part
m -
Kearns is 2 for 5, 1 BB, 2 Ks, the hits were doubles and he drove in 1 run. This is career.
Kearns vs. Minnesota pitchers, career, from Baseball Reference.com
http://www.baseball-reference......;as=batter
2 for 5 I think – both doubles
Minnesota’s Weaknesses
http://riveraveblues.com/2010/.....ses-36339/
Kearns lf..Gardner cf…Swish rf….
And the 0 for 10 against Capps is not good; wouldn’t he more likely be in a game as a pinch hitter against the closer?
nice read
http://bleacherreport.com/arti.....redictions
I don’t get the Pena over Nunez move, Nunez is the superior baserunner and hitter. And I see Joe’s pet favorite Sergio somehow made it again despite not pitching the last 2 month.
Doreen,
Thanks. I was under the impression that he had monster numbers against Liriano.
5 at-bats is not enough for me. Kearns should be on the bench. He has good at-bats, but they usually end badly.
“Should the Yanks be so lucky, who?s going to start game 4 of the ALCS?”
I’m afraid you already know the answer to that. However, the Yankees look pretty good in every other game. The 8 Yankee pitchers likely to see action (excl. A.J., Mitre, and Mosely) have posted a 3.38 ERA in about 800 IP this season, with almost 8 K/9. The Yankees have some pretty serious flaws, but that pitching core and the highest-scoring offense in baseball give us reason to think they can overcome the lack of a #4 starter.
My concern was that by the middle of the ALCS AJ won’t have pitched in a while.
Thanks, WCYF.
Granderson has for whatever reason been hitting LHP pretty well. He’s going to start vs Liriano.
The question is will Kearns start over Gardner? I hope not.
Wave Your Hat
October 5th, 2010 at 3:29 pm
My concern was that by the middle of the ALCS AJ won’t have pitched in a while.
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Good! That means we might actually have a shot at winning those games Burnett doesn’t pitch. Curious what the Yankees record is in games that Burnett started? 5 – 22
Your welcome – the gang was all over it.
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The Yanks chose Pena over Nunez a long time ago. They were always going to take Pena. That’s the way they operate.
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You’re welcome.
I had looked up Kearns’ numbers earlier in the day and had the page still open.
Nothing especially impressive there. He’s K’d as many times as he’s gotten a hit vs. Minny.
WCYF-
I wasn’t arguing that AJ should get an ALDS start, although looking back I see how you could interpret it that way.
I’m trying to look at it this way – AJ was pretty much on rotation all year – he never had to sit out like Javy did; they didn’t DL him; nothing. Obviously, did the Yankees no good.
Maybe – maybe – getting him off the merry-go-round will be a good thing.
I know I’m reaching….
Wave Your Hat
October 5th, 2010 at 3:33 pm
WCYF-I wasn’t arguing that AJ should get an ALDS start, although looking back I see how you could interpret it that way.
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You make a good point. It’s tough asking a starter used to going out there every five days to shake things up. Especially an emotional wreck like Burnett. I was really surprised at the 5-22 record – is that unbelievable or is it just me?
joeman October 5th, 2010 at 3:03 pm
# Cashman needs to go October 5th, 2010 at 3:01 pm
I still wonder if AJ Burnett would be pitching to his capabilities had cashman traded for roy halladay either last season or last winter..
either way had he traded for him we wouldn’t be worried about our postseason starters right about now..
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wanted Doc and didn’t care who they gave up to get him..
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you and me both, my friend, sometimes prospect hugging isn’t the most smartest thing to do…
thinking that Gardner could be a very important weapon
“West Coast Yankee Fan October 5th, 2010 at 3:31 pm
Wave Your Hat
October 5th, 2010 at 3:29 pm
My concern was that by the middle of the ALCS AJ won’t have pitched in a while.
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Good! That means we might actually have a shot at winning those games Burnett doesn’t pitch. Curious what the Yankees record is in games that Burnett started? 5 – 22″
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LOL, the last person I care about is A.J. Burnett, even if the Yankees are in the ALCS and he had or hadn’t pitched in a while, would it really matter with Burnett, he is always 1 pitch, 1 batter, 1 inning from blowing up on the mound, he’s real good at it.
If the Yanks are in the ALCS and he starts I would expect a warming up bullpen for that night and prepare myself for a sure fire loss.
When it comes to Burnett I say “Whatever”
Wave, he ( AJ ) will get an ALCS start though…..
5-22? How can that be? AJ himself won 10. 15 and 22 maybe?
For those that didnt click the link, Pavano stinks at holding runners and Minn’s left and right fielders are awful. Kubel especially should be run on all day.
Also, Mauer’s numbers have gone way down when it comes to basestealers.
I would have thought that whoever the Yanks were planning to use for the 4th starter in the ALCS would get a simulated start 5 days before the game he pitches. If AJ is on the ALDS roster he won’t be throwing a simulated start. Maybe someone else will.
I agree with Wave.
If Kearns is going to start, Gardner will be on the bench. Gardner sat vs LHP quite a bit in September.
I wouldn’t do it though.
# CountryClub October 5th, 2010 at 3:38 pm
For those that didnt click the link, Pavano stinks at holding runners and Minn’s left and right fielders are awful. Kubel especially should be run on all day.
Also, Mauer’s numbers have gone way down when it comes to basestealers.
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now if jeter and gardner can get on base they’ll have some fun
Hi Trisha!
Yanks in 3
Rays in 5
Reds in 5
Giants in 4
Wave,
I really hope not either. With runs most likely at a premium in Game 1 you really want you’re best defenders out there. Also Gardner can still take pitches and get on base even if the matchup isn’t favorable. Gardner and Granderson should play every game in the postseason and the only platoon should be at DH.
“joeman October 5th, 2010 at 3:03 pm
# Cashman needs to go October 5th, 2010 at 3:01 pm
I still wonder if AJ Burnett would be pitching to his capabilities had cashman traded for roy halladay either last season or last winter..”
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This is the thing we keep trying to find ways to suit A.J. Burnett, asking what have we done for him lately, how about what has he done for the Yankees in a long while.
1st it was A.J. can’t pitch to Posada, he needs his own special catcher
2nd it was A.J. is missing Dave Eiland to fix his mechanics
1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th to infiinity it is he has great stuff, he just has to put it together
Now we needed Roy Halladay for A.J. Burnett maybe. I mean what is going on here, we are paying this guy 82.5 million dollars to be a frontline starter on this team and he is a huge dud.
I for one am through looking for rhymes, reasons and excuses for that joker. I’m sick of him.
Amazing that we have an 82.5 million dollar “white elephant” in the bullpen in the playoffs, because he can’t be trusted. Shameful.
# RayVT October 5th, 2010 at 3:40 pm
Hi Trisha!
Yanks in 3
Rays in 5
Reds in 5
Giants in 4
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Reds in 5…WOW!!!!!!!! I believe they are the biggest favorite
I see we are carrying three long garbage man which I don’t think we will need in a 5 games series. I rather have Ring than Mitre or Mosley. I think Thomes , Kubel and Mauer all have considerable lefty splits, the loogy man can be of strategical use at least.
BTW, Wave , I realize the Yanks love R. Pena for some strange reason! Nunez is a better choice!
joeman October 5th, 2010 at 3:40 pm
now if jeter and gardner can get on base they’ll have some fun
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Granderson too
AJ started 33 games. Won 10, lost 15. 8 NDs. In the 8 NDs, the Yankees were 3 and 5. So in games AJ stared, they were 13 and 20.
5-22? That can’t be right.
# Macfan October 5th, 2010 at 3:42 pm
“joeman October 5th, 2010 at 3:03 pm
# Cashman needs to go October 5th, 2010 at 3:01 pm
I still wonder if AJ Burnett would be pitching to his capabilities had cashman traded for roy halladay either last season or last winter..”
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This is the thing we keep trying to find ways to suit A.J. Burnett, asking what have we done for him lately, how about what has he done for the Yankees in a long while.
1st it was A.J. can’t pitch to Posada, he needs his own special catcher
2nd it was A.J. is missing Dave Eiland to fix his mechanics
1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th to infiinity it is he has great stuff, he just has to put it together
Now we needed Roy Halladay for A.J. Burnett maybe. I mean what is going on here, we are paying this guy 82.5 million dollars to be a frontline starter on this team and he is a huge dud.
I for one am through looking for rhymes, reasons and excuses for that joker. I’m sick of him.
Amazing that we have an 82.5 million dollar “white elephant” in the bullpen in the playoffs, because he can’t be trusted. Shameful.
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I hear you……
Typo apologies.
Yes, RayVT,
Another believer in the Reds. That would be sweet.
“5-22? How can that be? AJ himself won 10. 15 and 22 maybe?”
I think it should have been 5-17 in his last 22 starts.
WYH
why can’t AJ get a simulated start if he is on the ALDS roster? Can’t he throw in the pen like Andy did a few times during spring training?
Granderson missed 3 weeks of the season and still somehow ended up facing LHP more than Gardner did this season.
Granderson had 174 PA vs LHP while Gardner had 171.
I’d start Kearns over Grandy against Larriano and Doenesing
just wondering if they ever had a shot at Doc and what the asking price might have been
I think the Phils are 2-1 favor in Vegas , Joe. I personally like the Mandalay bay sportsbook there.
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On the other hand Gardner had 399 PA vs RHP while Granderson had 354.
Thanks tk that’s right.
“# Doreen October 5th, 2010 at 3:43 pm
AJ started 33 games. Won 10, lost 15. 8 NDs. In the 8 NDs, the Yankees were 3 and 5. So in games AJ stared, they were 13 and 20.”
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Yuck, not to mention how many of those games were either early exits and tons of runs allowed that put the team out of the game.
I really don’t like A.J. Burnett, Sabathia compared to him is like night and day in makeup, expectation and performance.
With CC you know what to expect, with Burnett it makes your stomach sick to watch him on a mound just hurting the team’s chances time and time again.
Grandy numbers are poor against Liriano. I wonder what Girardi will do.
For the role they will play Pena is the better choice. He’s a much better defender and has much more experience at 3rd (which is the most likely position that either would play). Nunez scares me a bit defensively and if either of them is ever in a game their #1 job will be to catch the ball.
SAS & Joeman
I like the Reds. Youth & experience blend and so great hitters. It should be interesting!
# Cashmoney October 5th, 2010 at 3:46 pm
I think the Phils are 2-1 favor in Vegas , Joe. I personally like the Mandalay bay sportsbook there.
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Mirage sportsbook is nice,
I would personally take Ring as a strategic loogy over Moseley or Mitre, preferably Mitre because I hate him.
Yeah, Wave , I figure they would take Pena as they love him ! *scratching head* but Nunez is the better choice here IMO.
Grandy 4-22 .182 against Liriano. Go with Grandy because he’s been hot? Or play it by the book.
# joeman October 5th, 2010 at 3:48 pm
# Cashmoney October 5th, 2010 at 3:46 pm
I think the Phils are 2-1 favor in Vegas , Joe. I personally like the Mandalay bay sportsbook there.
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Mirage sportsbook is nice,
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like the bar being right there by the sportsbook
Yes, the Yankees were 5-17 in his last 22 starts.
Doreen, I agree with your opinion about AJ even if we’re both just exercising wishful thinking. I honestly think there would have been a chance for AJ to get skipped at some point during the season if we didnt have so many injuries (or innings limits) to our staff.
# West Coast Yankee Fan October 5th, 2010 at 3:49 pm
Grandy 4-22 .182 against Liriano. Go with Grandy because he’s been hot? Or play it by the book.
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Grandy just because he’s playing better
“# Cashmoney October 5th, 2010 at 3:49 pm
I would personally take Ring as a strategic loogy over Moseley or Mitre, preferably Mitre because I hate him.
Yeah, Wave , I figure they would take Pena as they love him ! *scratching head* but Nunez is the better choice here IMO.”
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The reality is barring meltdowns in the rotation, Burnett, Moseley and Mitre are fillers
6th,7th,8th inning on we are looking at Joba, Logan, Robertson, Wood to Rivera, each night of the ALDS
Those other guys are window dressing on the roster, I can’t see them showing up in 1 meaningful game.
That is unless of course we wind up in a long extra inning game, keep fingers crossed that never happens
This is interesting. Granderson didn’t face Liriano in 2010.
But in 2009 and 2008 Granderson was 0 – 11 with 6 strike outs.
upstate kate-
My thinking was that if AJ threw a simulated game he wouldn’t be available to pitch in the ALDS.
I don’t think it’s a matter of the Yanks loving Pena that much but more a loyalty factor since he’s been a good soldier for the team basically the last two years. Nunez has only been around a short time.
Go Yankees 2010 !!
like the bar being right there by the sportsbook
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same with Mandalay bay, if you play video poker , drinks are free. I like their big screens. friend of mine father normally stay there so I am used to meeting him and his friends there every year.
Yanks in 4
Rays in 4
Reds in 5
Giants in 4
Macfan October 5th, 2010 at 3:42 pm
“joeman October 5th, 2010 at 3:03 pm
# Cashman needs to go October 5th, 2010 at 3:01 pm
I still wonder if AJ Burnett would be pitching to his capabilities had cashman traded for roy halladay either last season or last winter..”
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This is the thing we keep trying to find ways to suit A.J. Burnett, asking what have we done for him lately, how about what has he done for the Yankees in a long while.
1st it was A.J. can’t pitch to Posada, he needs his own special catcher
2nd it was A.J. is missing Dave Eiland to fix his mechanics
1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th to infiinity it is he has great stuff, he just has to put it together
Now we needed Roy Halladay for A.J. Burnett maybe. I mean what is going on here, we are paying this guy 82.5 million dollars to be a frontline starter on this team and he is a huge dud.
I for one am through looking for rhymes, reasons and excuses for that joker. I’m sick of him.
Amazing that we have an 82.5 million dollar “white elephant” in the bullpen in the playoffs, because he can’t be trusted. Shameful.
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I’m not making excuses for AJ – if he were a horse I’d already have brought him out to the back of the barn….i blame joe girardi and cashman for babying this POS the last 2 years hoping he’d get his head screwed on straight….even now they took him on the PS roster instead of telling him to go home and shoot himself..
say what you want about ozzie guillen but he NEVER would have started AJ or Javy in ANY games in September or October – can you imagine how many more games the yankees would have won without AJ or Javy basically ending the game in the 3rd inning…
“So in games AJ stared, they were 13 and 20″
So that means they had a .393 win % with A.J. and a .636 win % in all other games. For comparison, the % with A.J. would translate to a 64-win season and the % w/o would be 103 wins over a full season.
Gardner and Grandy should both start. Every game. Defense is going to matter, too. Esp. if Target plays big.
I would like to see Grandy AND Gardy start. The better defensive alignment. And hope they have some good at-bats.
You really don’t have any assurance that Kearns will do better offensively, not with just 5 ABs against Liriano and the fact that he’s been non-productive; plus his defense isn’t as good as the other two, though he’s not horrible out there.
And, I just think you gotta go with your starters, your main guys, especially in game 1. Unless there is a significant advantage to not doing so.
# Cashmoney October 5th, 2010 at 3:53 pm
like the bar being right there by the sportsbook
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same with Mandalay bay, if you play video poker , drinks are free. I like their big screens. friend of mine father normally stay there so I am used to meeting him and his friends there every year.
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never stayed there,visited the pool area once and had lunch there….
0 – 11 with 6 strike outs is brutal.
joeman October 5th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
just wondering if they ever had a shot at Doc and what the asking price might have been
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probably the same package that seattle asked for for cliff lee…which cashman was too scared/dumb to do…
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Who are you substituting for AJ in the w/o AJ win count?
I’m not even that greedy, though – I wish they just had AJ from last season.
The “new” Granderson hasn’t faced Liriano. The last time CG faced him was in 2009. Joe won’t think twice, he’ll go with Granderson.
The Yanks are only looking at Pena’s defense vs. Nunez’ defense. They don’t clear things with me, of course, but I doubt the question of which one of them can hit better ever came up.
last years AJ would make this a whole lot easier
Kearns starting? No, no, no, no. All of the people who think that Kearns should start over Gardner don’t complain when a ball is hit to LF and it drops for a double when Gardner easily would of put it in his pocket. Besides his defensive being awful do you really want to watch Kearns swinging at Liriano’s slider in the dirt in every at bat? Past numbers mean nothing with average players, you have to look at how he is swinging the bat now.
I am heading out in early Nov Joe. My family has a condo there behind the Wynn Casino’s course. I normally play poker @ the mirage (the original high limit place) , Bellagio and the Venetian. Those three are my personal favorite hotels in Vegas.
Btw, It never gets old to watch the Bellagio fountain displays for me
Correction , Wynn Golf course.
Tex is going to have to pull his weight this series. No excuses
.278/.413/.528 .941 OPS vs. LHP in 2010.
Trisha, thank you…
Pena/Nunez would be defensive substitutions/emergency players. Defense should be the main qualification.
WYH
oh I see…I wasn’t thinking he would pitch in the ALDS anyway, but I suppose the circumstance could arise where he might.
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I was going to post, “but what are Grandy’s number’s post KLong??”
I agree they’re not impressive vs. Liriano, but I still think you start Granderson in that ballpark. And Gardner. No doubt in my mind anyway.
Captain Clutch
October 5th, 2010 at 3:59 pm
Kearns starting? No, no, no, no. All of the people who think that Kearns should start over Gardner don’t complain when a ball is hit to LF and it drops for a double when Gardner easily would of put it in his pocket. Besides his defensive being awful do you really want to watch Kearns swinging at Liriano’s slider in the dirt in every at bat? Past numbers mean nothing with average players, you have to look at how he is swinging the bat now.
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If Kearns starts tomorrow it will be for Granderson not Gardner.
Grandy starts all games. Too much power and defense to leave on the bench.
“Who are you substituting for AJ in the w/o AJ win count?”
Nobody. I didn’t mean it to be a predictive look at what their season would have been without him, just contrasting the difference in winning percentage over 162 games.
“say what you want about ozzie guillen but he NEVER would have started AJ or Javy in ANY games in September or October”
Lol, because Ozzie Guillen is the guy we all want our manager to start channeling right now…
There’s still time for AJ to come in and pitch game 4 or 5 and blow the game (and series) for the Yanks. Knowing Joe, he’ll find a way to make sure that happens.
I hope Gardner doesn’t sit tomorrow.
They have made enough dumb moves over the last five weeks.
Throw the book away and play the nine best players for this series and see what happens.
If you lose, you lose.
To sit Gardner for a guy who is a human K machine makes no sense.
Then again, a lot of the moves made in the last five weeks have made little sense to me.
Hopefully, sitting Gardner tomorrow won’t add to the foolishness.
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Okay. I gotcha. Thanks.
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Wynn Casino is beautiful…was looking into a condo out there but decided against it, I usually go out there once or twice a year for 5 nights …I get comped at the Bellagio for my stay, & use Southwest so it’s cheap for me to travel and stay….
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If Girardi sits Gardner tomorrow I will join the “what’s up with Girardi” club.
“If Kearns starts tomorrow it will be for Granderson not Gardner.”
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Gardner has been on the bench vs the past 6 LH starters the Yankees have faced.
Or Granderson.
You have to play your best all-around players, don’t you?
Shame Spencer October 5th, 2010 at 4:04 pm
“say what you want about ozzie guillen but he NEVER would have started AJ or Javy in ANY games in September or October”
Lol, because Ozzie Guillen is the guy we all want our manager to start channeling right now…
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actually that would be really funny – to see girardi start throwing people under the bus and saying something like “Well I HAD to start Javy because Brian Cashman didn’t go out and get me another starter at the trading deadline – I guess Sidney Ponson wasn’t available – heck i’d start ponson everyday and twice on sunday over vazquez….and when is tex going to start earning his 22 million dollars – i can get a little leaguer to have better swings at those breaking pitches!!!”
I wasn’t that familiar with Kearns before they got him, but based on his time with the Yankees, I do not understand why Girardi said (basically) that he was a lock for the PS roster. I’ve seen nothing from him that makes me want him playing in place of any of the starters at any point in the game, let alone hitting.
And the idea that AJ can be a long man out of the bullpen is ludicrous. Just because he’s normally a starter? Why would he pitch any better as a reliever, a role he’s unfamiliar with? This is all about his contract and the fact that we’re stuck with him for three more years; they can’t risk blowing out what’s left of his psyche by actually leaving him off the PS roster.
Or to put it another way: do you think if he was in the last year of his contract, after the year he had, that he would be on the roster? No way.
If Gardner is on the bench for Kearns tomorrow, I would love to hear the rationale from the “Girardi can do no wrong” club.
Pena’s defensive ability really shouldn’t have played a part in him making the roster. If he plays one inning in the field, something went horribly wrong.
Anyway,
Granderson doesn’t have good numbers vs. Liriano, but he does have a HR and a Double and 2 BBs and RBI.
Cashman needs to go – I recant my previous snark.. your version of events is pretty entertaining..
not to fast forward anything because there’s a lot of game left but it will be interesting to see what this teams roster looks like next year
K-man over Gardner?
Winner, winner, I threw up my dinner
Kearns LF, Garnder CF, Swisher RF. Thames DH (Thames has 3 HR’s v Liriano)
**um, that’s 3 RBI.
Kevin Not That Kevin Brown October 5th, 2010 at 4:09 pm
I wasn’t that familiar with Kearns before they got him, but based on his time with the Yankees, I do not understand why Girardi said (basically) that he was a lock for the PS roster. I’ve seen nothing from him that makes me want him playing in place of any of the starters at any point in the game, let alone hitting.
And the idea that AJ can be a long man out of the bullpen is ludicrous. Just because he’s normally a starter? Why would he pitch any better as a reliever, a role he’s unfamiliar with? This is all about his contract and the fact that we’re stuck with him for three more years; they can’t risk blowing out what’s left of his psyche by actually leaving him off the PS roster.
Or to put it another way: do you think if he was in the last year of his contract, after the year he had, that he would be on the roster? No way.
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all you have to know about austin kearns is that he wasn’t good enough to stick with the WASHINGTON NATIONALS…..and the cleveland indians decided to go bargain hunting and picked him up and then traded him away because they felt Shelly Duncan was a better player than he was…yet cashman puts him on the club and girardi actually gives this guy alot of playing time…
I would go with Gardner because of the spacious Target OF, runs will be at a premium so his basestealing ability could come in handy, and he will help run Liriano’s PC up to get him out of the game.
I wouldn’t be shocked though to see Kearns in there over Gardy.
If Kearns starts tomorrow it will be for Granderson not Gardner.
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Right and then you have Kearns’ awful defense in LF. Granderson hasn’t been great against lefties but he deserves to play and they need his defense in CF and Gardner’s in LF. If Kearns was hot I would think about it but with the way he is swinging the bat now definitely not. I really doubt Girardi would sit Granderson.
good one Jeers…was it chicken?
jnorris427 Brett Gardner led the MLB in UZR and UZR/150 and made 49 plays out of zone
“Kearnsie” was just hopeless in the Saturday night game against the sox. And with his “deer in the headlights” look, he doesn’t exactly strike fear in the eyes of the opposing pitcher. That said, Dice-K is a righty, and I’m sure Joe G will find a way to justify platooning Gardner because (a) he doesn’t seem to like (or appreciate) “Gardie”, and (b) he doesn’t know how to manage his own sock drawer.
Shame Spencer October 5th, 2010 at 4:11 pm
Cashman needs to go – I recant my previous snark.. your version of events is pretty entertaining..
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No offense taken….but thanks for the reply….
“# Cashman needs to go October 5th, 2010 at 3:54 pm
I’m not making excuses for AJ – if he were a horse I’d already have brought him out to the back of the barn….i blame joe girardi and cashman for babying this POS the last 2 years hoping he’d get his head screwed on straight….even now they took him on the PS roster instead of telling him to go home and shoot himself..
say what you want about ozzie guillen but he NEVER would have started AJ or Javy in ANY games in September or October – can you imagine how many more games the yankees would have won without AJ or Javy basically ending the game in the 3rd inning…”
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Nah, I know what you meant, I’m just tired of Burnett with a capital T, the Yankees aren’t running a psychiatric facility, but a baseball business and right now A.J. is bad for that business
I feel when he is out there that the team has no shot to win that particular game
Quite telling for the role he was supposed to have on this roster, front line, power righty arm after Sabathia.
The thing is with Burnett he hasn’t even been serviceable, he has been awful
If he had a season of say 13-12, 4.25 ERA, even that I could live with even if not ecstatic.
But his numbers this season make you want to hurl
His hits per inning are up
His strikeouts are down
His ERA is one of the worst in Yankees history for a full time starter
His WHIP is pathetic
His HR and BB ratio are higher in 21.1 less innings this season
Is there anything even redeeming left to be said about him
Oh, that’s right he throws a mean pie, he sure don’t contribute in any other way to pies celebrations being formulated.
Kearns came to this team to be a bench player. His performance is exactly what you get out of decent bench players. He was overexposed for a time because he played when Gardner and Swisher were hurt.
I can’t see Kearns starting tomorrow. Kearns recent performance should mean we’ll see a set lineup with the regular 8 and Thames/Berkman. Only having one lefty in the pen should limit Girardi’s matchups there. Not having A.J. staring in the ALDS removes the Cervelli decision (for now at least). I think Girardi will have far less influence in the playoffs than he did last year or in September.
I love how Mike Francesa calls him Gardy lol
CountryClub,
I know some pooh-pooh on UZR, but at least he’s on top of the heap.
“# Niblick October 5th, 2010 at 4:16 pm
“Kearnsie” was just hopeless in the Saturday night game against the sox. And with his “deer in the headlights” look, he doesn’t exactly strike fear in the eyes of the opposing pitcher. That said, Dice-K is a righty, and I’m sure Joe G will find a way to justify platooning Gardner because (a) he doesn’t seem to like (or appreciate) “Gardie”, and (b) he doesn’t know how to manage his own sock drawer.”
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You can say that again, 0-4, 3 K’s, 9 men left on base.
Yet he is a post season lock, guess that’s the case when there aren’t actually any better options.
I would rather see CC bat for himself in game 1 instead of Kearns. I guarantee Kearns would swing at more sliders in the dirt than CC would. He looks like he swings blindfolded.
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Then he definitely has no business starting tomorrow night over Gardner (now healthy) or Granderson, who is challenged by Liriano but overall the better player.
I don’t think I can rationalize Kearns starting.
I can’t see any logic there to follow.
His 2 for 5 vs. Liriano isn’t compelling enough for a bench player to start over a better player.
# Carl October 5th, 2010 at 4:20 pm
I love how Mike Francesa calls him Gardy lol
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don’t watch or listen to him much..is he still arrogant
good one Jeers…was it chicken?
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At this point it’s merely a hypothetical purge.
But I will be eating light tomorrow evening just in case…
Is there anything even redeeming left to be said about him
Oh, that’s right he throws a mean pie, he sure don’t contribute in any other way to pies celebrations being formulated.
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You know i wonder what the veterans on the team (jeter, mo, posada etc) think when burnett does his pie throwing routine – when he has no reason to even be in the dugout because of the shameful way he’s competed this year….i know if i were the captain i’d sit down with him and tell him to stop throwing pies unless he actually starts contributing something positive to the games…
Gardner has to start tomorrow, has to. Don’t over manage this.
“# Doreen October 5th, 2010 at 4:23 pm
His 2 for 5 vs. Liriano isn’t compelling enough for a bench player to start over a better player.”
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Well we all know Girardi is wound pretty tight and loves to consult his little binder for matchup stats and will utilize them even in minuscule sample sizes that give no real pattern or indication of anything.
its called overmanaging
I like Andy in Game 2 controlling a running game in that ballpark, with Jorge’s spotty-ness behind the plate.
The other side of the coin is Hughes pitching to Mauer and Thome in YS.
The lineup tomorrow:
Jeter 6 – Granderson 8 – Teixeira 3 – ARod 5 – Cano 4 – Swisher 9 – Posada 2 -Thames DH – Gardner 7.
The team seems to like the pies after walk-offs. They’re not inappropriate.
But the last one AJ did he did seem a bit sheepish.
I don’t think AJ is ignorant of the poor season he’s had and what it meant to the team. Put down his season, his performance all you want – lay it on thick as you want – but it seems overkill and unnecessary to talk about his character.
Remember, it was MO himself who encouraged AJ to keep up the pie routine last season, even though the second pie was a walk-off in a game AJ started and didn’t finish.
Yanks just arrived at Target according to Carig tweet.
“# Cashman needs to go October 5th, 2010 at 4:26 pm
You know i wonder what the veterans on the team (jeter, mo, posada etc) think when burnett does his pie throwing routine – when he has no reason to even be in the dugout because of the shameful way he’s competed this year….i know if i were the captain i’d sit down with him and tell him to stop throwing pies unless he actually starts contributing something positive to the games…”
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The irony is his locker is right next to Sabathia, the absolute antithesis of what A.J. Burnett’s performance level is.
I saw they were interviewing Sabathia yesterday and soon as I saw Burnett’s locker nameplate I wanted to throw up.
My whole thing about being sour on Burnett is how historically bad he has performed this season, the Yankees could have gotten that kind of performance out of a minor league callup or a veteran retread from the scrap heap
To say Burnett has been disappointing is a gross understatement. Moreover is none of the coaches seem to have any idea what to do any longer. That is a true headcase the Yankees have for 3 more seasons.
Well on his way to being Oliver Perez, good lord help us if it continues to that level.
Cashman needs to go:
Thanks, appreciate it. I would take Shelley Duncan over Kearns too!
Bring in the Goose October 5th, 2010 at 4:28 pm
I like Andy in Game 2 controlling a running game in that ballpark, with Jorge’s spotty-ness behind the plate.
The other side of the coin is Hughes pitching to Mauer and Thome in YS.
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The good news about that is that the Twins had only 68 SB’s this year – only 4 teams had less – and the yankees had 103…so if anything the yankees should run on pavano (terrible at holding runners on) any chance they can – but of course we all know girardi’s
*ssbleep will be so tightly wound that he won’t allow anyone to steal for fear they may get thrown out….sort of like when torre didn’t bunt on schilling in game #6
Doreen,
I’m not saying he should start, I personally don’t think he should. But if he does start a game, it definitely should not be tomorrow. Gardner and Granderson should be given a chance.
WYH -
That reminds me. There will be GTLU throughout the postseason. Erica and I are sharing the responsibility.
So, I hope that wasn’t the official lineup, was it? Or just your GTLU submission ahead of time?
i dont think aj is going to reach perez status. burnett still has the occassional good game or even good month, not lately, but it can come at any time (perez is a lock to suck)
I would take Shane Spencer over Kearns.
The proper thing to do is play your best 9 players everyday in the post-season.
We endured a season full of “rest days” for everybody.
So much so, they punted the division and HFA away because “resting” guys became the priority.
If that’s the case then, regardless of who is pitching, Gardner and Granderson have to play everyday.
It’s not even a debatable at this point.
If either guy isn’t on the lineup, then the last five weeks of “planning” by this organization becomes a joke.
Not doing it amounts to manager malpractice.
CountryClub -
I know you weren’t saying he should start. I was just emphasizing he really shouldn’t start!
I know Girardi likes his matchups and all, but this one would shock me.
Yankees 3 Twins 1
Rangers 3 Rays 2
Phillies 3 Reds 0
Giants 3 Braves 2
m October 5th, 2010 at 4:21 pm
CountryClub,
I know some pooh-pooh on UZR, but at least he’s on top of the heap
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No doubt. UZR and UZR/150 are different ratings…and he led both of them. The guy is a very good defensive player.
I really hope Girardi can control himself in the playoffs and keep the overmanaging to a minimum. Like if a starter leaves the game in the 6th inning I hope we don’t see him use 4 different pitchers for 4 hitters. Then in the late innings he is left with just Mitre and AJ in the bullpen. September was a very weird month for him but hopefully he can breathe and not cost the team games.
# joeman October 5th, 2010 at 4:23 pm
# Carl October 5th, 2010 at 4:20 pm
I love how Mike Francesa calls him Gardy lol
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don’t watch or listen to him much..is he still arrogant
Yeah. Doesn’t let anyone talk. Just talks over them.
From Ben Shpigel:
The Yank with the best average against Liriano is Kevin Russo (2-3) Hooray for small sample sizes.
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And luckily he’s not on the roster.
Arods spot might have been in jeopardy tomorrow.
Tricia…….Yanks in 4……..Texas in 5………Phils in 4……..Giants in 3 Yanks in 6 over Texas…………..Giants in 7 over Pillies…………..Yanks in 6 over Giants…….Could be 5 vs. SF
Wow, good ol’ Shelley Duncan. Haven’t thought about him in a while.
Doreen -
That was GTLU, not the real one.
I am in no way suggesting it should be anything other than Gardener, Granderson and Swisher out there tomorrow. I threw it out there as food for thought, as it is one decision that Girardi has to make. You do have Granderson’s really poor numbers against Liriano.
We’ll see what he does.
CountryClub,
I know he primarily played LF, but we knew he was good last year, out in CF. Some chose to go out of their way to argue he’s not all that and a bag of chips (a favorite phrase of Dan Patrick) defensively. Crickets now.
Thanks, WYH.
Kearns is a guy you bring off the bench when you are down a few runs and need someone to run into one. That’s all he is good for. His old #’s against the Twins while he was playing in meaningless games in an Indians uniform? Who cares?
Kearns is not the guy you start in place of an all-star center fielder like Granderson. No way. Go with your best 9. Put away the laptop and the stat sheets. Use some common sense.
If AJ Burnett had great lifetime stats agains the Twins, would he be in the playoff rotation? I sure as hell hope not.
Just checking in –
Man, the complaining is in full force, and they haven’t even played a game yet.
See you tomorrow.
The 2 players Hughes mainly has to worry about with the short porch are Thome and Kubel, not Mauer.
Both of those guys have 19 dingers vs RHP this year. Mauer only has 7 and only 9 HR total this year.
Thome has 19 in only 187 at bats
Hughes has to keep people off base in front of those two, particularly Thome.
“I think Girardi will have far less influence in the playoffs than he did last year”.
Ha! Next thing you know you’ll be telling me that Americans invented baseball.
we are jumping on girardi already? the lineup for tomorrow isnt even out yet.
I suspect the lineup will be as follows, because of the R-L-R-L thingy:
SS Derek Jeter
RF Nick Swisher
1B Mark Teixeira
3B Alex Rodriguez
2B Robinson Cano
DH Marcus Thames
C Jorge Posada
LF Austin Kearns
CF Curtis Granderson
WCYF -
I think Granderson’s poor numbers will net him a drop in the batting order, not from the lineup.
we wont see burnett until game 4 of the alcs.
m,
I remember those lovely conversations about Gardner not being able to go back on the ball, so he’s not that good
we wont see burnett until game
45 of the alcs.Just so you know, GTLU isn’t “open for business” yet, so you may have to resubmit, okay?
Doreen-
You are right. I knew it immediately after I posted it but I will have to live with my mistakes.
I really wasn’t thinking about GTLU when I posted. The real point I wanted to make was that I think both Granderson and Gardner will be in the lineup tomorrow.
Serious question – how big of a lead do the yankees need to have in lets say the 7th inning to feel comfortable enough to bring burnett in to pitch the last 3 innings and save the good guys out of bullpen for the next game?
I say 10 runs….
WYH -
You can change it if you want to when we’re official.
I’m keeping my fingers crossed. You know, I wouldn’t have given it any thought at all if it wasn’t brought up here (Kearns starting). Maybe I need to limit my exposure.
(As if!)
there is no justification, none, for sitting Granderson tomorrow. If Girardi makes that move he just has no clue, period. Granderson has been the Yankees second best player the past month, has speed, power, good defensively, etc.
Kearns has a hole in his bat right now so, if he plays, Girardi has a hole in his head.
Cashman needs to go -
Just for laughs – whatever AJ’s era is + 4 runs.
Kearns better not start tomorrow. Liriano or Koufax or Lester or Lee. No Kearnsie!
Granderson and Berkman will be huge factors in the weeks that lie ahead….I just thought it bears repeating…….Later
if Girardi sits Granderson because of matchups then the next move is sitting Arod in favor of Kevin Russo. After all, Arod is 1-9 against Liriano, that’s worse than Grandy’s 4-22 and Russo hits .667 against him.
There is a time to throw out matchups based on history and small numbers, the playoffs is that time. You put your best 9 guys in the lineup and see what happens, period.
if granderson struggles that seriously off liriano, just work with him to bunt for a hit or stick the bat out and go opposite field. granderson is a good player, and hitting much better vs lefties now. i think he will be trusted to go out there.
Just for laughs – whatever AJ’s era is + 4 runs
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so thats about 10 runs – which is what i thought (disclaimer – i’d still have rivera or wood or robertson secretly warming up somewhere where no one can see in case aj gives up 4 hits in a row
Are there any rookie hazing photos yet?
Granderson and Berkman will be huge factors in the weeks that lie ahead….I just thought it bears repeating…….Later
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Grandy more than Berk. Thames will face the lefties.
Doreen,
When do you plan for GTLU. I have to figure this out with time difference. Thanks.
There is no justification for sitting Granderson or Gardner tomorrow. Platoon the DH but otherwise let the best players play.
With how spacious Target is, Gardner and Granderson need to start regardless of any lefty-righty match up.
Kearns can’t buy a hit lately anyway.
ac1……Lance Berkman is going to play a factor this October……..
“There is no justification for sitting Granderson or Gardner tomorrow.”
Has anyone whose opinion counts say they are?
2 off days and people are looking for something to complain about before it happens?
Girardi on francesa. Nice and informative.
I want to interject something about Granderson here.
I was going through the archives yesterday (looking for the link to the 2009 season montage) and at the time, Minnesota and Detroit were still battling it out for their division. They had the playoff game, remember?
Anyway, there was lots of discussion here on the merits of facing each team.
There were numerous posts that said one reason Detroit would not be a good team to face was Curtis Granderson.
What I didn’t do and what I should have done, was to go back and look at his numbers against the Yankees when they played Detroit in ’06. But it was a few years ago now. Still, he made enough of an impression on a lot of us then, and last year he wasn’t good against lefties either and we had CC and Andy, and people still didn’t want to face Grandy.
Just thought I’d throw that out there. An interesting tidbit, some bloglore.
Joe Girardi:
“Absolutely I have no problem using Burnett out of the pen”.
Pat,
Just commenting on the current discussion. Hope your MRI went well. (BTW, Kay just said Kearns would probably start tomorrow…not that his opinion matters).
Doreen, There was a small segment of LoHuders who were pleased back in December when he was traded to the Bronx…..And even less by June…..This place has a greater tide ebb than the Hudson River……
Joe Girardi:
“Absolutely I have no problem using Burnett out of the pen”.
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As oppose to use him as a starter? What do you expect joe to say?
“I would throw the numbers out when it comes to Grandy”
-in reference to Grandy vs LHP.
more specifically in regard to starting tomorrow vs Liriano.
I hope Berkman is a huge factor, then I can be a Berkmaniac!!
Stop it JOE , Just Stop it… no more Gardy and Kearnsy and Timmy and Texy ! it’s not an effing tea party! well, unless it’s a Boston….
Gardner to start tomorrow. Girardi said he “might” toss numbers aside, Gardner deserves the start.
He said not a difficult choice but still being discussed.
It was in regards to LF
Niblick sounds like a brand of chicken feed.
I take Girardi at his word, that he would use Burnett out of the pen. I just found it an interesting comment for reasons too obvious to go into.
Granderson is starting. Girardi basically made that clear without actually committing to it.
It is a decision between Gardner and Kearns.
blake
Just using your comment as the jumping off point because the complaining before the fact has gotten silly.
Thanks for the good wishes. Sons MRI. Lacrosse injury. He’ll limp for awhile, make everyones life around him hellish for a few days, but he’ll live.
# LGY October 5th, 2010 at 5:19 pm
Granderson is starting. Girardi basically made that clear without actually committing to it.
It is a decision between Gardner and Kearns.
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this shouldn’t even be a decision….
Shouldn’t be a decision. Gardner should start.
He should put the “book” away and use common sense.
I have to say -
That was a good interview by Francesa.
I’m glad Girardi is going with Garner, Granderson and Swisher. Whewww!
Jeter
Swisher
Teixeira
Rodriguez
Cano, 2B
Posada,
Thames
Granderson
Gardner, LF
Not much of a decision. But if you must debate it, Joe, just ask CC who he wants in LF.
Just go with Gardner and Grandy every game. Flip Lance and Thames at DH depending on LH/RH. Golson in for Swish late for defensive purposes in a close game. Only changes that need to be made other than a pinch runner for Lance or Jorge.
Agree – good job by Francesa.
Doreen
October 5th, 2010 at 4:59 pm
Cashman needs to go -
Just for laughs – whatever AJ’s era is + 4 runs
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Too both of you, good job ! AJ comedy breaks up the day.
Bad Scooter
October 5th, 2010 at 5:25 pm
Just go with Gardner and Grandy every game. Flip Lance and Thames at DH depending on LH/RH. Golson in for Swish late for defensive purposes in a close game. Only changes that need to be made other than a pinch runner for Lance or Jorge.
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Agree 100000%
Girardi will need to make some changes in his style of managing. Wasted chances with stranded runners will see the Yankees as an early exit from the ALDS.
The name of the game will be moving runners and taking advantage of every mistake the Twins make which isn’t too often with the fundamentally sound team they are.
Waiting for the big inning is a major mistake. Bunt, hit and run, run and hit ……. whatever it takes to push runners across the plate.
Kearns hasn’t been swinging the bar nearly well enough to warrant taking gardners glove or speed off the field.
I agree with Francesa. Interpreting Joe’s comments it sounds like Gardner and Granderson.
BTW as a side note, a lot of people are killing Girardi in this thread. However, Girardi said that it is not a difficult choice.
So, if Gardner does start tomorrow he agrees with everyone on here, and should get a little of a retroactive apology
Girardi won’t sit Granderson; he was just on with Francesca and he sounded very positive about him.
The one thing that bothered me (from what I heard) was that he clearly doesn’t think Kearns is healthy. So, why is he on the roster?
No question that Girardi made it sound like the outfield would be Gardy, Granderson, Swisher.
Pat M -
Yes, the ebb and flow can require dramamine at times.
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i think Gardner’s going to start. “Kearnsy” apparently is still hurting (finger). I just think Girardi didn’t want to give up his whole lineup before he had to (he does stuff like that).
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Interesting about Tex – basically he said that every time he dives for a ball he aggravates that hand injury.
Phil has to cut down on his walks (not sure why he’s walking so many lately) and it would be great if he could strike out more. Then again, maybe this is due to fatigue. I’m really not scared of him pitching at home as he’s had good games here, but he has to avoid making stupid pitches.
Betsy,
I don’t know, but assume, that the rosters can be changed up to game time.
Kearns=veteran bat off the bench
Betsy,
Maybe I missed it but what did Joe say to make you think he doesn’t think Kearns is healthy?
LGY
October 5th, 2010 at 5:27 pm
I agree with Francesa. Interpreting Joe’s comments it sounds like Gardner and Granderson. BTW as a side note, a lot of people are killing Girardi in this thread. However, Girardi said that it is not a difficult choice. So, if Gardner does start tomorrow he agrees with everyone on here, and should get a little of a retroactive apology
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I don’t see much Girardi bashing at all. I see lots of good robust baseball discussion.
“Waiting for the big inning is a major mistake. Bunt, hit and run, run and hit ……. whatever it takes to push runners across the plate.”
No, no, no, the Yanks aren’t built for it. I think Joe should wait for the big inning, but Joe’s inner small ball guy does have a tendency to come out in big games.
We are going to win it with the HR or not at all, IMO, Target or no Target.
Girardi said he doesn’t think Kearns is 100% and that he would be talking to him later today. Elbow and finger.
may not matter wouldn’t be surprised if they get swept
Hughes walks a lot because his definition of putting on the dime is different from the ump’s.
why wouldn’t Girardi start all the regulars? wasn’t that the whole point of getting everyone rested and healthy? GGBG and Granderson both should be starting, they have defense and speed.
SJ, I thought Andy was a slam dunk, too……………One day I sure hope Phil is a guy we can look at as a sure thing and something of a security blanket, but right now we have that guy. Is he ready? Is he rusty? I don’t know………..but this was the right move. If Phil gets clocked in NY, so be it.
“I don’t see much Girardi bashing at all. I see lots of good robust baseball discussion.”
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Are you blind???
M, lol……..I just mean lately. For 90% of the year, his control was pretty ridiculous. I’ll assume that it’s due to fatigue. In any case, every pitcher has to watch the walks – free passes are killers.
No, are you always rude?
There was a lot if qualified bashing. “IF Girardi starts Kearns…”
I didn’t think there was so much Girardi bashing as discussing what came up as an interesting twist that many hoped would not happen.
That’s baseball discussion. It was a legitimate topic, Francesa asked him about it.
here is a very interesting Phil Hughes stat:
If you leave out the games against the Jays, who clearly have his number (17 earned runs in 21 innings), his ERA against everyone else is 3.55, that’s 0.6 runs less than his 4.19 overall ERA.
The last time I checked, the Jays aren’t in the postseason…
Betsy
just for the record…I wanted Phil to start game 2 b/c he had pitched so well in the 2 red sox games, not b/c I think he can’t pitch in YS
I am also happy to see the veteran Andy start game 2
either way…winner winner chicken dinner
LGY, Mike asked if so and so were healthy (Tex, etc..) and when he mentioned Kearns, Joe hemmed and hawed and said he’d have to check with Kearns.
Thanks Betsy. Missed that part.
betsy stalker chick, you better get some valium or you will drive everyone here nuts. maybe you will hangout at your other blogs before they toss you out for being a stalker. wackjob
Also sounds like Andy is doing great.
West Coast Yankee Fan
October 5th, 2010 at 5:31 pm
Girardi said he doesn’t think Kearns is 100% and that he would be talking to him later today. Elbow and finger.
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What up with his elbow & finger ? Or do I dare ask what has he been doing with his elbow and finger ? ?
Kate, understood, but I do a LOT of googling and you can tell that many fans and pundits think Phil simply can’t pitch in YS. Now he’s had his struggles to be sure, but as I’ve said: when he was dominating early, he was not giving up HRs. When he struggled for a big chunk after the ASB, he was giving up HRs on the road as well. I realize he’s a FB pitcher (hope he can cut down on them next year; 2-seamer?), but I think he was just making bad pitches. I mean, some guys that hit HRs off him are not good hitters……..so he must have been throwing meatballs.
MG, that is an interesting stat. You can’t throw those games out, but it puts things in perspective.
LGY, you’re welcome!
SAS, if they can make changes, no problem. I’m not sure they can, though.
MG,
LGY and I had a discussion about that a while back. (Hughes and his nemesis the Jays)
Hit on the elbow. I think. I know you were being facetious, but there it is.
Duensing seems like a quality pitcher – that won’t be easy. Then again, it’s not supposed to be. Bad pitchers don’t pitch in the post-season.
does anyone remember when new YS opened and Andy was giving up a lot of HR? He seems to have figured out how to pitch there.
Gardner vs. Kearns? Wake up Joe. Garder takes too many pitches, but he is not an easy out with two strikes. He cuts down on his swing and fouls off a few pitches at a minimum when he is in the hole. Kearns? Automatic out with two strikes. Even if he does not get hits, you want a guy like Gardner in the lineup against Liriano because he will work the pitch count, allowing the Yankees to get into Minnesota’s pen sooner. Kearns is good for three pitches every at bat. Strike one, strike two and strike three.
Go with the guys who got you there. Gardner is one of those guys.
I guess every pitcher has a team who’s a thorn in his side.
hughes 2.85 ERA at home since August 1st not counting the Jays, 3.75 with the Jays. So basically as good as his ‘road’ split is for the season
m -
I think that’s also a fair picture of what happened today “if qualified bashing.”
Funny line by John Harper of the DN on Sirius, he thinks the only reason AJ is on the post season roster is that the Yankees don’t want to ‘blow him our psychologically’. You got to be kidding.
Jerkface, that’s not bad at all…………
Doreen and m,
The reason for my comment about the Girardi comment was because many people assumed Girardi was seriously considering starting Kearns over Gardner.
They used that assumption to make backhanded references to overmanaging, his book, his managing in September, resting players, etc.
However, Girardi just said it is not a difficult decision so if that means Gardner is starting, all those remarks are unwarranted and used to criticize Girardi’s managerial style overall.
Thanks m, yes I was / am. LOL !
Vineyard Yankee
October 5th, 2010 at 5:50 pm
typo; that should be ‘blow him out’
LGY -
Yes, some people said what they always say – I don’t really pay it no mind no more.
Those that don’t like Girardi at all don’t like him. That’s that.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....f.preview/
3. Will Yankees manager Joe Girardi’s pitching decisions pay off?
Girardi was under tremendous pressure because he had no obvious choice after CC Sabathia for Game 2 (which also would line up that pitcher for Game 5). Here were his options:
a) Andy Pettitte: Hasn’t thrown more than 88 pitches in a game since July 8 and allowed a .361 batting average against since he returned from the DL.
b) A.J. Burnett: He is the worst starting pitcher in Yankees history among any pitcher given 30 starts (5.26 ERA). Since May 9 he is 6-15 with a 6.16 ERA. His swing-and-miss percentage was a career low.
c) Phil Hughes: In his final eight games he went 3-3 with a 5.30 ERA.
d) Four days of snow in Minneapolis.
Scratch d). The weather looks great in Minneapolis. On Tuesday morning, the Yankees announced that they would go with Pettitte for Game 2 and Hughes for Game 3, leaving Game 4 open for the time being. The best option might have been Hughes. In those past eight games, he at least has held batters to a .229 average, suggesting his stuff is there. But Girardi likely leaned toward experience, gambling that the former version of Pettitte, and not the current one, will help carry him past Minnesota.
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So all the rays fans say that they cant go to games because its too expensive, yet the Rays have come up with the plaid theme and its selling out everywhere. I wonder if those people know that for the price of that hat, they can go to a game.
You can play with numbers all you want to. Verducci used 8 starts for Phil, but:
http://nybaseballdigest.com/?p=29521
Phil Hughes had a nice 1st season as a permanent part of the rotation, and while he flagged a bit in the summer, he had a 3.45 ERA in his last 5 appearances.
The weather should be ok in NY as well; it’s been gross lately, but it should clear up for the weekend (though it will be chilly)
Betsy -
Gross is an understatement. I hate gray days. I just can’t get myself going. Yuck!!!!
trisha – true pinstriped blue.
Hi Trisha …
Don’t know if it’s too late…but what the heck
, here are my predictions:
Yankees in 4
Rangers in 5
Phillies in 4
Giants in 3
Go Yankees 2010 !!!
betsy stalker chick is a posting machine and says nothing of importance. where is mick when you need him to chase you away
Doreen, I spend most of my day in the office so it doesn’t matter, but still it’s dreary. I’m just not looking forward to winter.
Hughes ‘last 8′ conveniently leaves out his good games vs toronto and boston at the beginning of August, while leaving in his stinker against toronto. Selective end points
Last month for a starter is more relevant than last two imo.
But whatever! Need to win tomorrow!
Jerkface, that deserves more than a
That deserves :
“Funny line by John Harper of the DN on Sirius, he thinks the only reason AJ is on the post season roster is that the Yankees don’t want to ‘blow him our psychologically’.”
I doubt that’s the case. A spot on the post season roster isn’t worth saving his feelings. There’s an entire off season to repair hurt feelings.
If that IS true, then wow. Just wow.
Courtesy of BoDog:
Odds to win the 2010 World Series
Philadelphia Phillies 2/1
New York Yankees 7/2
Tampa Bay Rays 9/2
San Francisco Giants 7/1
Minnesota Twins 8/1
Cincinnati Reds 11/1
Texas Rangers 11/1
Atlanta Braves 12/1
Odds to win the 2010 American League Championship
New York Yankees 17/10
Tampa Bay Rays 2/1
Minnesota Twins 4/1
Texas Rangers 9/2
Odds to win the 2010 National League Championship
Philadelphia Phillies 5/7
San Francisco Giants 3/1
Cincinnati Reds 5/1
Atlanta Braves 11/2
2010 World Series – Exact World Series Matchup
New York Yankees vs. Philadelphia Phillies 7/2
New York Yankees vs. San Francisco Giants 9/1
New York Yankees vs. Cincinnati Reds 12/1
New York Yankees vs. Atlanta Braves 12/1
Tampa Bay Rays vs. Philadelphia Phillies 4/1
Tampa Bay Rays vs. San Francisco Giants 10/1
Tampa Bay Rays vs. Cincinnati Reds 15/1
Tampa Bay Rays vs. Atlanta Braves 15/1
Minnesota Twins vs. Philadelphia Phillies 7/1
Minnesota Twins vs. San Francisco Giants 16/1
Minnesota Twins vs. Cincinnati Reds 25/1
Minnesota Twins vs. Atlanta Braves 25/1
Texas Rangers vs. Philadelphia Phillies 8/1
Texas Rangers vs. San Francisco Giants 18/1
Texas Rangers vs. Cincinnati Reds 28/1
Texas Rangers vs. Atlanta Braves 28/1
I got a little nauseous when I heard Girardi refer to Kearns as ‘Kearnsie’ on Francessa…
Betsy -
For me, it’s tough when the weather is like this. If I have nowhere in particular to go, I don’t. And that’s not good.
The downside to SAHMothering.
From AP reporter:
#Yankees, unsurprisingly, are a confident bunch. Not worried about starting on road even tho they’ve never won a series as a wild card team
#Yankees Nick Swisher on Target Field: “I don’t think there’s a ballpark in America that can hold Alex Rodriguez and Robbie Cano.”
ConcernedCitizen
October 5th, 2010 at 6:23 pm
That is what Harper said in the interview pretty much word for word, ‘The Yankees don’t want to ‘blow him out psychologically” , he does cover the Team for TDN.
Maybe it will get back to AJ. Sometimes the truth hurts.
Anyone find it a little fishy that ESPN is screening “Four Days in October” the night before the Yankees open postseason play, while the Red Sox are booking tee times?
I got a little nauseous when I heard Girardi refer to Kearns as ‘Kearnsie’ on Francessa…
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Creepy! Especially when he squeeze them out of his braces …. Gardy , Kearnsie, Texy? think he used it once, Thamesies , Grandy, Arrrrrrgggghhhhh !
STop! just STOP!
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/ho.....China.html
MLB trade rumors has posted their type A & B free agents.
Yanks type A:
Jeter
Mariano
Andy Pettitte
Type B
Javy
Berkman
Kerry Wood
It’s a pretty safe bet that the Yanks will not get a single draft pick out of this although they could conceivably offer arb. to Jeter and Mo without much risk.
Not that I can see them doing that.
Jeter SS
Swisher RF
Teixeira 1B
Rodriguez 3B
Cano 2B
Thames DH
Posada C
Granderson CF
Gardner LF
No Strikeout King Kearns
Trisha:
Yankees in 4
Rangers in 4
Phillies in 4
Braves in 5
Yankees over Rangers in 6
Phillies over Braves in 7
Yankees over Phillies in 6
Also from BoDog, misc. over and unders.
Total Home Runs in Series
Over/Under 9.5
Total Strikeouts in Game 1 – CC Sabathia
Over/Under 5.5
Total Strikeouts in Game 1 – Francisco Liriano
Over/Under 6
Total Hits in Series – Alex Rodriguez
Over/Under 4.5
Total RBI in Series – Alex Rodriguez
Over/Under 3.5
Total RBI in Series – Robinson Cano
Over/Under 2.5
Total RBI in Series – Derek Jeter
Over/Under 2.5
Total Hits in Series – Joe Mauer
Over/Under 5
Total RBI in Series – Joe Mauer
Over/Under 3
Total RBI in Series – Delmon Young
Over/Under 3
Looks like you can bet on almost anything.
I hope Kearnsie remains on the benchie
Vineyard Yankee October 5th, 2010 at 5:41 pm
West Coast Yankee Fan
October 5th, 2010 at 5:31 pm
Girardi said he doesn’t think Kearns is 100% and that he would be talking to him later today. Elbow and finger.
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What up with his elbow & finger ? Or do I dare ask what has he been doing with his elbow and finger ? ?
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That should have been enough reason to replace Kearns on the roster with Nunez.
I like Nunez, Girardis ‘book’ probably told him otherwise. I wonder if it is one of those talking books ?