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Kearns sits in Game 1

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Lineup on Oct 06, 2010 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

YANKEES
Derek Jeter SS
Nick Swisher RF
Mark Teixeira 1B
Alex Rodriguez 3B
Robinson Cano 2B
Marcus Thames DH
Jorge Posada C
Curtis Granderson CF
Brett Gardner LF

TWINS
Denard Span CF
Orlando Hudson 2B
Joe Mauer C
Delmon Young RF
Jim Thome DH
Michael Cuddyer 1B
Jason Kubel RF
Danny Valencia 3B
J.J. Hardy SS

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263 Responses to “Kearns sits in Game 1”

  1. Vandelay Industries October 6th, 2010 at 4:57 pm

    Love this lineup

  2. AeroFANatic October 6th, 2010 at 4:58 pm

    LOL, love the thread title!

  3. JobaTipsHisCap October 6th, 2010 at 4:58 pm

    the title is very encouraging

    :)

  4. Donna L October 6th, 2010 at 4:59 pm

    Thank goodness no “Kearnsy.” I don’t suppose all those people who were already calling for Girardi to be fired because they assumed he’d start Kearns and sit Gardner are going to admit they were wrong?

  5. Doreen October 6th, 2010 at 5:00 pm

    Congratulations to the following posters. You Guessed The Line Up!

    upstate kate
    Erin
    Cashmoney
    Fran the Original
    Unknown
    SAS
    NYY626
    comet
    blake
    TR10
    justinxdance27
    jacksquat

    **Just for fun, I put a lineup of my own where I post Girardi’s lineup, and I got it right, too! :)

  6. YankFanCA October 6th, 2010 at 5:00 pm

    It’s unfortunate that KKKKearns is such a zero offensively. Would be great to have more than six righties in the line-up.

  7. Erica in NY October 6th, 2010 at 5:00 pm

    0 Days, 3 Hours, and 30 Minutes until Game 1 of the ALDS :grin:

  8. LGY October 6th, 2010 at 5:00 pm

    VS LHP in 2010

    Jetes: .321/.391/.481 .872 OPS

    Tex: .278/.413/.528 .941 OPS

    Big night for those 2.

  9. tyanksfan36 October 6th, 2010 at 5:01 pm

    Don’t know why he put in back to back lefties but I’m happy to see gardner in there and not kearns.

  10. tampayank October 6th, 2010 at 5:01 pm

    yeahhhhhh nice lineup Let’s Go Yankees!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  11. Don Vito A. Bellamo October 6th, 2010 at 5:02 pm

    7-0 Yankees CG by CC !!! :-)

  12. LGY October 6th, 2010 at 5:02 pm

    “Don’t know why he put in back to back lefties but I’m happy to see gardner in there and not kearns.”

    ——————————–

    Where else are you going to put Grandy and Gardy?

  13. yankeefeminista October 6th, 2010 at 5:03 pm

    Great lineup.

  14. yanksfan7788 October 6th, 2010 at 5:03 pm

    good lineup….lets go yankees!!!!

  15. Erin October 6th, 2010 at 5:03 pm

    I won!!! :)

    Congrats to all the other winners.

  16. Fran the original October 6th, 2010 at 5:04 pm

    Doreen,
    Thanks.
    Glad you won too :)

  17. Fran the original October 6th, 2010 at 5:06 pm

    Erin,

    Guess we haven’t lost our touch ;)

    Congratulations to the winners.

    Let’s go Yankees.

  18. LGY October 6th, 2010 at 5:07 pm

    Nick Swisher vs LHP in 2010

    .294/.415/.433 .848 OPS

    Top of the lineup has gotta jump on Liriano.

  19. LGY October 6th, 2010 at 5:08 pm

    Let’s Go Reds! Reds in 4!

  20. MTU October 6th, 2010 at 5:10 pm

    off topic:

    Did any of you see Lee pitch today ?

    We should make every effort to get him.

    What a performance. :)

  21. YankFanCA October 6th, 2010 at 5:11 pm

    LGY — exactly. It starts with Jeter. He has to regain his selectivity at the plate.

  22. Niblick October 6th, 2010 at 5:14 pm

    Oh, dear. How can the Yankees possibly win without “Kearnsie”‘s 3 strikeouts and 9 LOB?

  23. tyanksfan36 October 6th, 2010 at 5:14 pm

    LGY says:

    October 6, 2010 at 5:02 pm

    “Don’t know why he put in back to back lefties but I’m happy to see gardner in there and not kearns.”

    ——————————–

    Where else are you going to put Grandy and Gardy?

    _________

    Well he had been putting granderson in #2 but now that I think of it, Liriano is a lefty so if he is going to get them out, it doesn’t matter where they are.

  24. Gehrig27 October 6th, 2010 at 5:15 pm

    A few more hours of sanity left…

  25. Jerkface October 6th, 2010 at 5:16 pm

    Lee gave up 4 runs twice against the yankees this year. Once in 9 innings, once in 6 innings. The other game was a very good one.

    He can be got.

  26. indy42 October 6th, 2010 at 5:16 pm

    The A-Team. Good.

  27. YanksfaninPA October 6th, 2010 at 5:19 pm

    Comeon CC good line up and now we need you to step up and limit the Twins to 2 runs or less. You can do it!

    Lets go bombers!

  28. blake October 6th, 2010 at 5:19 pm

    MTU,
    I saw a lot of it. He was great..yiu could tell he knew exactly what he wanted to do out there. The Rays are in trouble….

  29. Gehrig27 October 6th, 2010 at 5:22 pm

    Cincy = FAIL

  30. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 6th, 2010 at 5:22 pm

    “Tonight’s game is big, but it’s not all-important. CC against aces is going to be a push. Same with Price or Lee. Of course you hope you win, but it’s not a mismatch. The Yankees just need to walk out of here with a split…”

    Yes.

    “Most articles written by sportswriters (more like gossip columnists at times) are THEIR opinions and based on very little fact. Why people continue to read them and take them as gospel amazes me.

    I say let the games get played on the field ….not on the opinions of people who think they know it all and are just trying to start a controversay….much like bloggers … :)

    ABSOLUTELY AND UNEQUIVOCALLY. As SJ said (he does get it right sometimes ;) ) let your eyes and what the real experts – people from the Yankee organization – tell you what you need to know. The rest of potential fluff!

    *******

    I am SOOOO upset that Girardi took his foot off the gas, or whatever the phrase was, and decided not to play for the division. I SOOO wanted to be facing the Rangers…

    :lol:

  31. MTU October 6th, 2010 at 5:22 pm

    Blake-

    He just has outstanding command. Can you imagine CC, Lee, and AP together in a rotation.

    It would almost be unfair.

  32. LGY October 6th, 2010 at 5:23 pm

    blake,

    I saw on trisha’s prediction chart you picked the Gigantes!?!?

    trisha,

    on that note, can you post the prediction chart?

  33. upstate kate October 6th, 2010 at 5:24 pm

    MTU
    how can you be forgetting our YMH? Now that will be awesome

  34. Gehrig27 October 6th, 2010 at 5:24 pm

    Halladay – “electric stuff.” – said by broadcaster. I wonder if that is the same electricity that he let his former Toronto teammate borrow…

    I think AJ got short changed a few AMPs.

  35. Betsy October 6th, 2010 at 5:25 pm

    What an odd thread title; why not Gardner starts?

    Yankees had better hope the Rangers do not win the WS; if they do, no way Lee leaves.

  36. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 6th, 2010 at 5:25 pm

    Oh yeah – GO CINCY!

  37. Don October 6th, 2010 at 5:26 pm

    Good to see Kearnsy sitting, or is it spelled Kearnsie? He really looked bad in the last weeks of the season, and I just don’t want to see him right now in the playoffs.

  38. blake October 6th, 2010 at 5:26 pm

    MTU,
    In a 7 game series the Yankees could potentially run Sabathia or Lee out there in 5 of them next season if they had that rotation and it was needed.

  39. MTU October 6th, 2010 at 5:27 pm

    Kate-

    I’m not. I was only looking at it from an experience perspective.

    Those guys are proven big game pitchers.

    Phil should get there but he’s just a pup. :)

  40. Betsy October 6th, 2010 at 5:28 pm

    Man, I just heard a caller with Francesca who sounds like he’s on suicide watch. First, he’s depressed about this series (well, concerned). Mike talked him off, but he (Mike) did say that the Yankees pitching is cause for concern if they get past the ALDS. Really? I wonder why he’s so enamored of the Rays and Rangers’ pitching once you get past the aces. He’s another guy who’s in love with everyone else’s rotation.

    Then he tries to talk the caller off the ledge re: next year. I don’t know if he didn’t think Andy is coming back, if he doesn’t think Phil is very good, if he’s worried about AJ………but the guy needed a cup of happy juice. Francesa thinks Lee is a lock for next year, but I don’t think so.

  41. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 6th, 2010 at 5:28 pm

    LGY – you betcha. You are going to notice that I have a “0″ under one posters prediction. That’s because he picked the Rays to win in 3. I will be doing that whenever necessary, so this is a good time to mention it so people understand what the number is. It is still possible that the poster will get some point if the Rays win, but he just isn’t eligible for the points for the correct number of games.

    :)

  42. Betsy October 6th, 2010 at 5:29 pm

    MTU, he may not be inexperienced by the time next year rolls around – and we don’t even know if Andy will return.

  43. Cashmoney October 6th, 2010 at 5:30 pm

    Ugh, I hate Time Square ! back, Let’s go Reds!

  44. blake October 6th, 2010 at 5:30 pm

    LGY,
    Yes but I did it in hopes of helping the Braves through the opposite effect…if I pick the Giants then maybe the Braves will win. The theory was way too experimental to try with the Yankees.

  45. upstate kate October 6th, 2010 at 5:30 pm

    Betsy
    I think the tread title may be directed at the posters who were so critical of Girardi yesterday b/c they were sure he would start Kearnsie over GGBG

  46. MTU October 6th, 2010 at 5:32 pm

    Betsy-

    I was just fantasizing.

    You’re right about Phil. He should gain valuable
    experience this year.

    Andy may hang them up.

  47. LGY October 6th, 2010 at 5:32 pm

    Has anyone else seen the picture of Amare Stoudamire for the ESPN Body magazine???

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/bl.....nba-274711

    That’s worse than Alex kissing himself in the mirror :shock:

  48. Betsy October 6th, 2010 at 5:33 pm

    Kate, oh, lol…duh!

  49. Betsy October 6th, 2010 at 5:34 pm

    MTU, any fantasy would include Phil in that picture. I want him to show up all his doubters this post-season, and they are legion. I don’t expect him to dominate, but I want him to pitch well for more than just the obvious reasons.

  50. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 6th, 2010 at 5:35 pm

    http://members.cox.net/lsdorga.....SERIES.pdf

  51. Doreen October 6th, 2010 at 5:35 pm

    I might be too nervous to watch. :?

  52. PacoDooley October 6th, 2010 at 5:36 pm

    I like that lineup! Let’s go Yankees!

    …but if we lose this one with CC and that lineup, we are dead…

  53. Betsy October 6th, 2010 at 5:36 pm

    Actually, I want the whole staff to shut everyone up………

  54. MTU October 6th, 2010 at 5:36 pm

    Betsy-

    We’re all pulling for Phil to do well. :)

  55. Betsy October 6th, 2010 at 5:37 pm

    MTU, never said you weren’t.

    Really, dead? Well, they’re still going to play game 2 no matter what

  56. MTU October 6th, 2010 at 5:38 pm

    Betsy-

    If these three guys pitch like they did the first half we’ll be in fat city.

    That’s what I’m hoping for.

  57. Bronx Jeers October 6th, 2010 at 5:38 pm

    Let Kearns hit next year when they got CC and Cliff Lee throwin every other game.

  58. MTU October 6th, 2010 at 5:41 pm

    With Andy on the mound tomorrow tonight is not a must win.

    All we need to do is split in Twinkieland.

    I have just as much faith in AP as I do in CC in big games.

  59. 15Obie October 6th, 2010 at 5:41 pm

    I really think we should win tonight….I cannot see CC not being able to deal with this lineup. He knows the meaning of pitching in big games. A dominant performance ala Cliff Lee today can vault a team into playoff baseball.

  60. blake October 6th, 2010 at 5:42 pm

    I don’t think the Yanks are dead if they lose tonight but it would make tomorrow a must win…have to get a split at Least in Minnesota. They win tonight and they are in real good shape however.

  61. upstate kate October 6th, 2010 at 5:42 pm

    OK, time to make my CC tribute chili
    and then take the dog for a wet walk before the game

  62. Betsy October 6th, 2010 at 5:42 pm

    Let’s not count our Lee chickens before they hatch.

  63. blake October 6th, 2010 at 5:45 pm

    halladay with the RBI single.

  64. Carl October 6th, 2010 at 5:45 pm

    He just gave Halladay a fastball down and in.

  65. Bronx Jeers October 6th, 2010 at 5:45 pm

    If these three guys pitch like they did the first half we’ll be in fat city.

    ————————————————————————————————–

    Are you talking about Dallas? :wink:

  66. Betsy October 6th, 2010 at 5:45 pm

    CC is not the only factor – there’s Liriano to consider.

  67. YankFanCA October 6th, 2010 at 5:45 pm

    As much as the next person, I’d love to see someone in the NL bump off the Phillies. However, this Phillies team is very good and imposing. Strong offense, excellent starting three . . . they will be extremely tough to beat.

  68. MTU October 6th, 2010 at 5:46 pm

    Betsy-

    After Ryan sees the way Lee handles the big time of the PS he’s got to do his best to retain his services. A bidding war may ensue.

    You can build a pitching staff around Lee.

    Ryan knows it and we know it.

    Lee is in the catbird seat.

  69. JM October 6th, 2010 at 5:48 pm

    Halladay helping himself there. LOL.

  70. -Matt- October 6th, 2010 at 5:48 pm

    Now that’s a lineup I wanted to see

  71. Doreen October 6th, 2010 at 5:49 pm

    Well, the Chili has been Consumed. In a while I’ll have a Chocolate Chip Cookies and Coffee in a little while. :)

    ***

    I just got off the phone with my mom. She was looking at the Tampa Bay scheduled for next season and the last games of the season IN TAMPA are against the Yankees. Wouldn’t that make 3 consecutive years that the Yankees end the season on the road? Or is it 4?????

  72. Carl October 6th, 2010 at 5:49 pm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQ27AM3RTv8

    Let’s do it CC!

  73. JM October 6th, 2010 at 5:49 pm

    Volquez at nearly 50 pitches in the second inning. Yikes.

  74. stuart a October 6th, 2010 at 5:50 pm

    why would kearns start??? he stinks and gardner is better offensively and defensively.

    defense in this ballpark means a lot.

    kearns sits unless someone gets hurt period…..

  75. Cashmoney October 6th, 2010 at 5:50 pm

    Volquez’s control bug is biting him again.

  76. Betsy October 6th, 2010 at 5:52 pm

    MTU, I think there’s a very good chance Lee stays, so the Yanks had better come up with a contingency plan

  77. Cashmoney October 6th, 2010 at 5:53 pm

    I doubt Kearns will be back next year barring some heroics in the post season .

    Will Joe G find some pretenses to bring back Mitre again ? very likely ! and Pena ? ‘oh he is so cute and defensive wiz’ Ugh…

  78. P October 6th, 2010 at 5:54 pm

    Are we really back in the post season already?? Geez, this season flew by.

    Tampa looked horrible today against Lee, almost as bad as we do when we face him.

  79. Doreen October 6th, 2010 at 5:55 pm

    Wow. That was devastating.

  80. JM October 6th, 2010 at 5:55 pm

    4-0 Phillies….Could be a long night for the Reds.

  81. blake October 6th, 2010 at 5:55 pm

    Great AB by Victorino…probably all Doc will need in this one.

  82. MTU October 6th, 2010 at 5:55 pm

    Betsy-

    I’m sure they already have one. :)

  83. Cashmoney October 6th, 2010 at 5:56 pm

    All is not lost in that bandbox stadium, though, Halladay looks tough…

  84. JM October 6th, 2010 at 5:57 pm

    Volquez already out of the game. Poor Cincy.

  85. RS October 6th, 2010 at 5:58 pm

    Why do you think there’s a very good chance that Lee stays in Texas? He was in a great spot in Philly and basically refused to negotiate with them. To me, that says he’s going for the money 100% and the Rangers just can’t outbid the Yankees.

  86. Trevor October 6th, 2010 at 6:00 pm

    The Philly vs Cincy series will probably be the easiest of the match-ups.

  87. Jerkface October 6th, 2010 at 6:00 pm

    Why would Lee want to stay in Texas? Where he had a 4.4 ERA and doubled his HR rate

  88. RS October 6th, 2010 at 6:01 pm

    The Reds aren’t a very good team.

  89. JM October 6th, 2010 at 6:04 pm

    I can’t see Cliff Lee staying in Texas. He wants to come to the Bronx to win a ring with his buddy, CC. Only caveat: if Texas should happen to somehow win the World Series, I can see him staying there. But I don’t think that’s going to happen.

  90. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 6th, 2010 at 6:04 pm

    Well all I can say is that I’m happy I didn’t pick any teams to sweep! I voted AL according to who I wanted the Yankees to play, NL Cincy series because I want Phil out of the running, and NL Bravos series because I want Bobby Cox to have a nice goobye (plus I want Da Melk to get some nice playing time.)

    Of course I want the Yanks to win it all.

  91. Betsy October 6th, 2010 at 6:04 pm

    The Rangers have plenty of $$$$ and I think they will do whatever it takes, maybe even beyond what the Yankees would (in terms of years especially). Plus, how can he leave if the Rangers win the WS?

  92. Erin October 6th, 2010 at 6:06 pm

    Fran the original October 6th, 2010 at 5:06 pm

    Erin,

    Guess we haven’t lost our touch

    ********************************

    This is a very good thing. :)

  93. Carl October 6th, 2010 at 6:06 pm

    I’ve been reading the same stuff on this blog for the past month.

    This game can’t start soon enough.

    Cliff Lee will go where Cliff Lee wants to go.

  94. Yankee Trader October 6th, 2010 at 6:06 pm

    Doreen-

    Without Crawford and Soriano, less so without Pena, the Rays will probably be the 4th best team in AL East.

    Hoping that the Rays and Rangers go a full five games with Lee or Price unavailable for game 1 of ALCS.

  95. ConcernedCitizen October 6th, 2010 at 6:08 pm

    The Reds are a good team. They are just young and inexperienced. There are probably a lot of butterflies in that dugout. That said… this first game will be long and painful for Cincy fans methinks.

  96. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 6th, 2010 at 6:09 pm

    Travis Wood is a great pitcher for Cincy. Watch how filthy his stuff is. He came within 2 outs or so of a no hitter during the season.

  97. Cashmoney October 6th, 2010 at 6:09 pm

    The Reds aren’t a very good team.
    ———————-
    they actually are , as they lead the NL in runs scored and RBI and is 7 in the league in era.
    The late addition of Wood and Chapman only made them better.

  98. Yankee Trader October 6th, 2010 at 6:09 pm

    Betsy-

    Let’s hope that Texas doesn’t get to the WS. With global warming Arlington will be increasingly hotter in the summer!

  99. RSM October 6th, 2010 at 6:09 pm

    Lee will go where the money is. Problem is Texas will try to sign him, and they can offer him a big contact. That means if the Yankees want him, he is going to be VERY expensive in terms or dollars AND years.

  100. Cashmoney October 6th, 2010 at 6:10 pm

    Jerkface October 6th, 2010 at 6:00 pm
    Why would Lee want to stay in Texas? Where he had a 4.4 ERA and doubled his HR rate
    ——————————–
    money…

  101. Patrick October 6th, 2010 at 6:11 pm

    My prediction: Yankees will win tonight’s game 6-2. They will win the series in 4.

  102. Patrick October 6th, 2010 at 6:11 pm

    money…

    Haha just so happens the Yankees are the richest team in the league and will offer him more money than Texas.

  103. Doreen October 6th, 2010 at 6:11 pm

    Yankee Trader -

    I just think it’s ridiculous that the Yankees don’t get to close out their season at home. It doesn’t seem “random” to me at all.

  104. Erin October 6th, 2010 at 6:12 pm

    Ledger_Yankees Girardi just told the beat guys that Teixeira had a cortisone shot last month on his thumb.

    Ledger_Yankees Gardner’s defense also a consideration in putting him lineup.

  105. Cashmoney October 6th, 2010 at 6:12 pm

    Haha just so happens the Yankees are the richest team in the league and will offer him more money than Texas.
    ————
    I hope you are right. But we don’t know that.

  106. Laura - I Bleed Blue October 6th, 2010 at 6:12 pm

    “Cliff Lee will go where Cliff Lee wants to go.”

    Which is to the Yankees. :P

  107. RMS October 6th, 2010 at 6:12 pm

    “That said… this first game will be long and painful for Cincy fans methinks.”

    Lots of pain already and their only in the bottom of the 3rd.

  108. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 6th, 2010 at 6:13 pm

    “they actually are , as they lead the NL in runs scored and RBI and is 7 in the league in era.
    The late addition of Wood and Chapman only made them better.”

    Absolutely correct. In addition they led the NL in runs, hits, homers and average. What else do you want from them?

  109. Carl October 6th, 2010 at 6:14 pm

    I take that back.

    Cliff will go where he and his wife wants to go.

  110. Cashmoney October 6th, 2010 at 6:15 pm

    Cliff will go where he and his wife wants to go.
    —————————–
    Ugh Women ! *duck*

  111. Wave Your Hat October 6th, 2010 at 6:15 pm

    The high bid for Lee may be for more than he is worth, maybe way more. Do we want the Yanks to win that bid anyway?

  112. CR9 October 6th, 2010 at 6:15 pm

    Just had a much needed power nap! Is there a worse way to sleep than to have the voices of Buck Martinez and Don Orsillo seared into your head as you sleep?

    :D

  113. 108 stitches October 6th, 2010 at 6:18 pm

    Nolan Ryan can’t pay Yankee type of money to have Cliff Lee wilt away in the summer Texas heat for future seasons.
    C.C. will be the PR representative for the Yankees.

    As for Kearns, he has no future as a Yankee.

  114. Betsy October 6th, 2010 at 6:18 pm

    If the Rangers offer him more years/money, he’ll stay in TX

  115. Patrick October 6th, 2010 at 6:20 pm

    If the Rangers offer him more years/money, he’ll stay in TX

    And if pigs could fly….

    Seriously, how in the world is Texas going to outbid NY?

  116. Doreen October 6th, 2010 at 6:20 pm

    WYH -

    YES!

    (Only because I can’t think of waht the alternatives are, especially if Pettitte retires.)

  117. Cashmoney October 6th, 2010 at 6:20 pm

    Money, get away
    Get a good job with more pay
    And your O.K.

    Money, it’s a gas
    Grab that cash with both hands
    And make a stash

    New car, caviar, four star daydream
    Think I’ll buy me a football team

    More lyrics: http://www.lyricsfreak.com/p/pink+floyd/#share

  118. Yankee Trader October 6th, 2010 at 6:21 pm

    For Lee the sticking point will probably be years. The Yankees will be resigning Jeter and Rivera, along with raises due and arbitration, plus the possible resigning of Pettitte, I expect the Steinbrenners will have to agree to raise the current payroll of $206 million upwards another 20M or so.

  119. Patrick October 6th, 2010 at 6:21 pm

    Good song Cashmoney.

  120. Giuseppe Franco October 6th, 2010 at 6:23 pm

    Texas can’t outbid the Yanks no matter how much money people think they have.

  121. Wave Your Hat October 6th, 2010 at 6:23 pm

    “Seriously, how in the world is Texas going to outbid NY?”

    Not saying they will, but:

    1. Only $32MM committed for next year so far.
    2. $1.5BB TV package with an $80MM signing bonus in 2011.
    3. New ownership.

  122. clownthrowindown October 6th, 2010 at 6:24 pm

    Lee means more to Texas than to NY, so they will go all out for him. Contrary to what most of you think, the Yankees don’t get EVERYTHING they want. Remember Schilling?

  123. Trevor October 6th, 2010 at 6:25 pm

    The Rangers do not have more money than the Yankees. There will be a bidding war but they will not outbid the Yankees if the Yankees REALLY want Lee.

  124. SJ44 October 6th, 2010 at 6:25 pm

    Name the last player the Yankees really wanted as a FA since 2006 they got outbid on?

    The Yankees really want Cliff Lee.

    In other words, if he chooses not to come to NY, he will be taking LESS money elsewhere since the Yankees will be the high bidder.

  125. Doreen October 6th, 2010 at 6:26 pm

    Well, who knows how it will turn out, or how Cliff Lee is thinking, but my two cents is this: though it may seem like Lee is “bonding” in Texas, he has done well EVERYWHERE he has pitched. He has been the same person EVERYWHERE. He just pitches. He is non-denominational. :)

    He answered a question the other day in such a way that it would put off the distractions.

    He seemed pretty psyched in August when he thought he was coming to NY. I think if the Yankees make a very representative offer, there’s no reason to believe he won’t come to NY. Whether or not the Rangers, with whom he has no history beyond this season, win the WS.

    In the last couple of years, he’s been tossed around like a beachball – Cleveland, Seattle, Philadelphia, Texas. And none of those were his choice.

  126. Doreen October 6th, 2010 at 6:27 pm

    Well, he wasn’t tossed to Cleveland – he started there, of course.

  127. SJ44 October 6th, 2010 at 6:27 pm

    Schilling was a trade, not a FA transaction.

    Bad example.

    Cliff Lee will sign with the Yankees, buy Johnny Damon’s house in Alpine, NJ, which he was going to do if he was traded to NY, and be CC’s neighbor.

  128. Wave Your Hat October 6th, 2010 at 6:27 pm

    Folks ought not to be too confident about how much the Yanks will be willing to raise payroll.

    Financial considerations aside, don’t forget there is a new CBA to be negotiated and the Yanks might not want to paint a big bright red target on their backs when it comes to the luxury tax.

  129. Betsy October 6th, 2010 at 6:28 pm

    Patrick, probably with the years. I can see TX giving him 6 and I don’t know that the Yankees would do that – I wouldn’t

  130. JetergroundsintoanotherDP October 6th, 2010 at 6:28 pm

    Well, we’ve seen what two legit “aces” do in the playoffs. Lee and Halladay wouldn’t let their teams lose. What do you want to bet that Sabathia will give up big 2-out run scoring hits to let his team down tonight.

    CC is not an “ace” of the caliber of Lee or Halladay.

  131. Laura - I Bleed Blue October 6th, 2010 at 6:28 pm

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    CC is not an “ace” of the caliber of Lee or Halladay.

    And yet CC has a ring and they don’t.

  135. Patrick October 6th, 2010 at 6:32 pm

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    The Yankees really want Cliff Lee.

    In other words, if he chooses not to come to NY, he will be taking LESS money elsewhere since the Yankees will be the high bidder.

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  136. Ruby Tuesday October 6th, 2010 at 6:32 pm

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    I wish I have better news. But this just is not our year.

  137. Doreen October 6th, 2010 at 6:32 pm

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    And, don’t you think they figured on Cliff Lee’s salary even maybe a whole year ago? They don’t do these things on the fly.

    Just as Jeter’s deal is already conceptualized. And Mo.

    And I think Pettitte’s retiring anyway, but even if he doesn’t, I’m sure they’ve got it figured out.

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  138. SJ44 October 6th, 2010 at 6:33 pm

    The Rangers also had to pay over 80 million dollars more to complete the sale because of Mark Cuban raising the stakes.

    All of that money was financed, putting them up against the debt threshold for ML teams.

    In other words, they can’t borrow against their TV deal, making the TV deal, while lucrative, not a tipping point in freeing up the kind of capital it takes to sign Lee.

    In addition, NY is a better ballpark for Lee than Texas to pitch in. No small consideration.

    Texas has an uphill battle, to put it charitably, to retain Lee’s services.

  139. Yankee Trader October 6th, 2010 at 6:33 pm

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  140. Joe from Long Island October 6th, 2010 at 6:33 pm

    FWIW – Cliff Lee’s comments, over time, have indicated that he’s looking forward to finally going onto the FA market. I don’t think because he’s into new experiences, I think it’s because he wants to make a killing financially. He wants money. Nothing wrong with that, I want some myself.

    As SJ said, above, the Yankees’ do not get outbid. Greg Maddux, and more recently Johnny Damon, took less mone to play somewhere else; whether by conscious decision or be screw up. But, the Yankees do not get outbid if they really want a player.

    There is every indication that the Yankees want Cliff Lee. There is every indication that Cliff Lee wants money, and lots of it. I really don’t think it takes too much thought to see a deal being made.

  141. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 6th, 2010 at 6:33 pm

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    Clifferella had a wonderful time during spring training until he heard the first stroke of midnight of the regular season! the first stroke of midnight! He remembered what his agent had said, and without a word of goodbye he slipped from the grasp of excellence and ran from the mound. As he ran he lost one of his cleats, but not for a moment did he dream of stopping to pick it up! If the last stroke of midnight were to sound… oh… what a disaster that would be! Out he fled and vanished into the night.

    Easy to be gunshy when except for CC all of the promising pitchers seem to turn into rag-clad hearth sweepers.

    Am I certain that will happen with Lee? No of course not. Do I trust implicitly that a pitcher who looks great elsewhere will shine in pinstripes? NO. I. DON’T. Nothing to do with Lee per se. Once burned twice shy. Twice burned, well almost catatonic!

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  142. Giuseppe Franco October 6th, 2010 at 6:34 pm

    CC is not an “ace” of the caliber of Lee or Halladay.

    ——–

    LOL. Of course not. That’s why he’s likely to earn his 2nd Cy Young (in the toughest division in MLB) and put the team on his back last Oct (along with Pettitte and A-Rod) to win the WS.

  143. Laura - I Bleed Blue October 6th, 2010 at 6:34 pm

    “And I think Pettitte’s retiring anyway, but even if he doesn’t, I’m sure they’ve got it figured out.”

    If we win another World Series, most certainly. If we don’t, still 80-20 he retires.

  144. Betsy October 6th, 2010 at 6:34 pm

    And your not a troll of the caliber of so many past and present trolls.

  145. Cashmoney October 6th, 2010 at 6:35 pm

    With 99.99% assurance I know Vazquez won’t be back!
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  146. Trevor October 6th, 2010 at 6:35 pm

    # Carl October 6th, 2010 at 6:29 pm

    Man this Phils Cincy game is boring.
    ____________________

    I just changed the channel cause it looks non competitive.

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    “With 99.99% assurance I know Vazquez won’t be back!”

    Even Stevie Wonder can see that.

  148. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 6th, 2010 at 6:35 pm

    “Ruby Tuesday’s official predictions:

    This game — the Twins will win 9-1.
    This series — the Twins will win 3-0.

    I wish I have better news. But this just is not our year.”

    I was asked to tell you the next time you showed up to go blank yourself and to realize that we KNOW it’s not your year because the losers you root for are already playing golf.

    I told myself to tell you that. And I always listen to what I say.

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  149. JetergroundsintoanotherDP October 6th, 2010 at 6:36 pm

    “And yet CC has a ring and they don’t.”

    Yes, he does.

    And he also played on a better team with last year’s Yanks.

    This year’s team is much weaker and will need an “ace” type performance from him tonight. Let’s see if he steps up or proves himself to be far inferior to Lee and Halladay.

  150. Carl October 6th, 2010 at 6:37 pm

    # Trevor October 6th, 2010 at 6:35 pm

    # Carl October 6th, 2010 at 6:29 pm

    Man this Phils Cincy game is boring.
    ____________________

    I just changed the channel cause it looks non competitive.

    It really is. The formula for the hitters is, take the first pitch strike. Swing at the 2nd pitch out of the zone. Proceed to ground out or strike out.

  151. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 6th, 2010 at 6:37 pm

    Well since I picked Cincy let me be the first (I think) to say – DOC HALLIDAY IS PITCHING A NO HITTER!!!!! AND A SHUTOUT!!!!

    Bye bye Roy.

  152. Betsy October 6th, 2010 at 6:37 pm

    Lee’s comment “I can see myself staying here” didn’t exactly sound like a ringing endorsement.

    YS is perfect for him and I do think he likes pitching in NY. I’m glad we only have to wait 5 and not 15 days after the WS, lol

  153. SJ44 October 6th, 2010 at 6:37 pm

    The Yankees plan payroll out over a three year period.

    They were willing to trade their best prospect for Lee.

    That wasn’t going to be a rental. They were going to sign him long term.

    That tells you all you need to know about how serious the Yankees are about signing Lee.

    As serious as they were about signing Sabathia.

    In other words, they will do whatever it takes to sign him and aren’t going to be outbid for his services.

  154. Betsy October 6th, 2010 at 6:37 pm

    Doc is such a great pitcher………….man, the Phillies will be absolute beasts to deal with. How do you hit them?

  155. JetergroundsintoanotherDP October 6th, 2010 at 6:37 pm

    “And your not a troll of the caliber of so many past and present trolls.”

    Gonna be an interesting ballgame tonight. The real “aces” are stepping up in the playoffs. The pretenders are being exposed. CC is a pretender.

  156. Carl October 6th, 2010 at 6:38 pm

    Oh I forgot wins don’t count anymore.

    Who cares about winning the World Series!

  157. Doreen October 6th, 2010 at 6:39 pm

    The only way I see Pettitte not retiring is if he gets an opportunity to join the team mid-season.

  158. Laura - I Bleed Blue October 6th, 2010 at 6:39 pm

    “In other words, they will do whatever it takes to sign him and aren’t going to be outbid for his services.”

    It will be interesting to see if he gets more $$$ than CC.

  159. Cashmoney October 6th, 2010 at 6:39 pm

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    —————————–
    SJ, I thought NY really wanted Dice K were outbid by Boston by their whooping 52 million posting fee and Cashman resort to the 40 million Igawa as the consolation prize.

  160. YankFanCA October 6th, 2010 at 6:39 pm

    I don’t recall the Yankees’ desiring Schilling. Am I just getting old? He’s a cretin anyway.

  161. Betsy October 6th, 2010 at 6:39 pm

    hmm, CC and Lee ……nice 1-2 punch. Plus, Lee is a very efficient pitcher…he gets through 7 innings sometimes in less than 100 pitches

  162. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 6th, 2010 at 6:39 pm

    “And your not a troll of the caliber of so many past and present trolls.”

    VERY good!

  163. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 6th, 2010 at 6:41 pm

    I’d be a great pitcher too if I pitched in the NL or for anyone but the AL East.

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  164. Laura - I Bleed Blue October 6th, 2010 at 6:41 pm

    “SJ, I thought NY really wanted Dice K were outbid by Boston by their whooping 52 million posting fee and Cashman resort to the 40 million Igawa as the consolation prize.”

    That deal didn’t turn out well for either team. I bet if you asked BOS if it was worth it, they’d say no.

  165. Betsy October 6th, 2010 at 6:41 pm

    I think Andy will come back, but we’ll have to wait and see.

  166. SJ44 October 6th, 2010 at 6:42 pm

    A posting fee is not the same as free agency.

    That’s a blind auction. Free agency is not.

    The worst kept secret in baseball is where Cliff Lee is playing next year.

  167. YankFanCA October 6th, 2010 at 6:42 pm

    IMO, way too much talk about Lee and next season. It creates bad vibes about this postseason. It’s way too early to be looking ahead. There’s no free pass on this year. Strap on the helmets and win some games.

  168. Yankee Trader October 6th, 2010 at 6:42 pm

    The posting fee for DiceK was a closed bid, so there was no way they knew that Boston would foolishly bid that high.

  169. Bronx Jeers October 6th, 2010 at 6:43 pm

    There’s an easy solution to this Lee dilemma.

    The Yanks just have to beat Texas.

    If you can’t beat em, join em.

  170. Trevor October 6th, 2010 at 6:43 pm

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    _________________________

    You don’t try to hit him. You try to get Oswalt and Hamels pitch count up and get to their pen. Halladay is too economical and good.

  171. Cashmoney October 6th, 2010 at 6:46 pm

    my mistake , the posting fee for Igawa was 26 mils ! the Contract amount to 22 mils for 5 years.

    So 48 mil for Igawa ! gulp!

  172. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 6th, 2010 at 6:48 pm

    “IMO, way too much talk about Lee and next season. It creates bad vibes about this postseason. It’s way too early to be looking ahead. There’s no free pass on this year. Strap on the helmets and win some games.”

    Right? People always need to live in the future. They take a page from the retail owners and always need to be a season or two ahead. Me? Let me enjoy the present. Yesterday is history and tomorrow is a mystery. Today is a gift. That’s why they call it the present!

    Never satisfied. The American way.

  173. Cashmoney October 6th, 2010 at 6:50 pm

    No laura, I won’t say Boston has been satisfied with their investment. We certainly know what’s going on with Igawa. He will enter the Scrantonian HOF.

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    The main difference between CC and Hallady/Lee is that he doesn’t throw enough strikes and walks many more hitters than those two.

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