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Pregame notes: A different guy in center field

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Notes on Oct 06, 2010 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

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Curtis Granderson is a career .182 hitter against Francisco Liriano. He’s hit well against nearly every other pitcher on the Twins staff, but Granderson has struggled against tonight’s starter.

Whether to play Granderson, though, was never a debate for Joe Girardi.

“I don’t look at his numbers in the past,” Girardi said. “He’s a different hitter now, we think. You look at what he did the last two months in his at-bats against left-handers. He was a different guy for us. I know there was a lot of talk about him against left-handers in the beginning of the year and coming into the year, (but) his at-bats against left-handers were good.”

Granderson seemed to hit everyone in September. He had nine home runs and 23 RBI. His .278 batting average was the highest for a single month since May, when he had only 15 at-bats because of injury. It had to come as a relief for the Yankees, who traded three players — including a Rookie of the Year candidate — for what they expected to be a long-term solution in center field, not just a platoon player with disappointing numbers.

“We believed he was capable of doing it,” Girardi said. “You look at the past years, he had some OK years against left-handers. Always very good against right-handers. It’s good to see. It’s great to see as a guy matures he continues to get better. He made a minor adjustment that made a big change for him, and that’s always encouraging.”

Girardi said he considered starting Austin Kearns tonight, but the decision was between Kearns and Brett Gardner. Kearns numbers area what they are, and Gardner is a career .333 hitter with a triple and three RBI in nine at-bats against Liriano. Kearns is 2-for-5 with two doubles off Liriano.

“We just thought we’d go with Gardy,” Girardi said. “He played well all year for us. Kearnsy struggled a little bit down the stretch with the injuries.”

Here’s Girardi’s pregame press conference. He does two sessions during the postseason, one with the small group of beat writers and one for any reporter who wants to ask a question. This is the bigger session.

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ALDS Yankees Twins Baseball• Turns out Mark Teixeira had a shot in his bruised hand. This was around the time he sat out two games in Baltimore. Girardi said he shot came after the Baltimore series when the Yankees got back to New York, but Teixeira never sat out any of those games at Yankee Stadium, and it’s hard to believe — given how cautious Girardi was with injuries in September — that Teixeira would have played immediately after getting a cortisone shot in his hand. Girardi either misremembers when the shot happened, or rolled the dice for a game or two against the Rays.

• Girardi said A.J. Burnett’s only bullpen limitation is that he wouldn’t pitch two days in a row. Girardi would prefer not to ask him to come into a game with runners on base, “but it may come to that,” Girardi said.

• Dustin Moseley would be limited to around 40 pitches tonight.

• Greg Golson seems to be the Yankees top pinch-running option, but Girardi said he would be more likely to use Ramiro Pena if he were pinch running for one of his infielders late in a game. Sounds like Golson would be the guy to run for Nick Swisher, Jorge Posada or Marcus Thames.

• With only one left-handed reliever, Girardi said he’ll use matchups — imagine that! — to decide which of his right-handers would face some of the Twins tough lefties if/when Boone Logan has already been used. “I’m not afraid to use any of those guys against lefties,” he said.

• One more note about only one lefty in the bullpen: Girardi said some of the thinking in not carrying Royce Ring was that, with lefties starting four of five games, he didn’t expect to need a left-handed situational lefty until late in the game, which should make it easier to get through with only Logan.

• Girardi said he would be hesitant but not completely against using Mariano Rivera for more than three outs tonight. Would he be hesitant using him for two full innings? “Right now, maybe,” Girardi said.

• Twins manager Ron Gardenhire on Randy Moss being traded to Minnesota: “I don’t have Moss on my fantasy team, so I wasn’t worried about him. And I couldn’t get Favre, somebody took him before my team drafted, so I don’t really give a flip.”

• Tomorrow, I want Girardi to say he doesn’t give a flip about something.

Associated Press photos of Granderson, and Rodriguez, Jeter and Posada

 
 

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370 Responses to “Pregame notes: A different guy in center field”

  1. Carl October 6th, 2010 at 6:42 pm

    The Grandy man can! Oh the Grandy man can!

  2. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 6th, 2010 at 6:43 pm

    “”Twins manager Ron Gardenhire on Randy Moss being traded to Minnesota: “I don’t have Moss on my fantasy team, so I wasn’t worried about him. And I couldn’t get Favre, somebody took him before my team drafted, so I don’t really give a flip.””

    :lol:

    I knew I always liked Gardy for a reason!!!

  3. Betsy October 6th, 2010 at 6:44 pm

    So happy for Granderson, who got off to a huge start in Boston, but then struggled (heavens forbid!) and took it on the chin from the fans and media. He’s going to be, I think, a dynamic player for us.

  4. Laura - I Bleed Blue October 6th, 2010 at 6:44 pm

    That photo really makes me wonder what the heck Alex is saying to Jeter! LOL!

  5. Betsy October 6th, 2010 at 6:44 pm

    I wasn’t unhappy to see Price get smacked around, for various reasons

  6. Bronx Jeers October 6th, 2010 at 6:45 pm

    Pregame notes: A different guy in center field:

    ———————————————————————

    Yeah thanks for the heart attack.

  7. Tyler October 6th, 2010 at 6:45 pm

    Laura – I Bleed Blue October 6th, 2010 at 6:44 pm
    That photo really makes me wonder what the heck Alex is saying to Jeter! LOL!
    ———————-

    Looks like he’s smoking a cigarette lol.

  8. Betsy October 6th, 2010 at 6:46 pm

    I think he’s trying to do that Vulcan hand thing that Spock used to do, but he’s not having much success

  9. Laura - I Bleed Blue October 6th, 2010 at 6:47 pm

    [I think he’s trying to do that Vulcan hand thing that Spock used to do, but he’s not having much success]

    As a lifelong Trekkie, I can safely say that his attempt is easily the worst I’ve ever seen. :)

  10. Brock October 6th, 2010 at 6:47 pm

    Let’s get it on!!

  11. Laura - I Bleed Blue October 6th, 2010 at 6:48 pm

    That photo also shows how comfortable Alex is. I’m expecting yet another wonderful postseason from him this year.

  12. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 6th, 2010 at 6:48 pm

    “IMO, way too much talk about Lee and next season. It creates bad vibes about this postseason. It’s way too early to be looking ahead. There’s no free pass on this year. Strap on the helmets and win some games.”

    Right? People always need to live in the future. They take a page from the retail owners and always need to be a season or two ahead. Me? Let me enjoy the present. Yesterday is history and tomorrow is a mystery. Today is a gift. That’s why they call it the present!

    Never satisfied. The American way.

  13. Ben Farber October 6th, 2010 at 6:48 pm

    halladay looks completely unhittable…

    larsen is gonna have company

  14. Betsy October 6th, 2010 at 6:49 pm

    LOL Laura, if not, then he’s ticking off on his hand all the mediots who will have to apologize to the Yankees for killing their rotation

  15. YankFanCA October 6th, 2010 at 6:49 pm

    Living in CA, of course I like the late start time. However, this is Minnesota in October. Can you imagine the unlikely event of the Twins hosting a World Series game in November? Could be in the 30s or even sub-freezing.

  16. Patrick October 6th, 2010 at 6:50 pm

    Roy Halladay is ridiculous, I hope he completes the ____

  17. Carl October 6th, 2010 at 6:50 pm

    # Ben Farber October 6th, 2010 at 6:48 pm

    halladay looks completely unhittable…

    larsen is gonna have company

    Too bad he walked Votto. No-hitter would be amazing too though.

  18. Bronx Jeers October 6th, 2010 at 6:51 pm

    That photo really makes me wonder what the heck Alex is saying to Jeter! LOL!

    ————————————————————————————————————–

    A couple of guys just over 35?

    I’m thinking prostate exam.

  19. YankFanCA October 6th, 2010 at 6:52 pm

    Larsen will never have company until the trick is turned in the World Series.

  20. YankeeBlue222 October 6th, 2010 at 6:53 pm

    That photo really makes me wonder what the heck Alex is saying to Jeter! LOL!

    ————————————————————————————————————–
    Given ARod’s propensity for bedding many women, I think they are discussing foreplay methods.

  21. Carl October 6th, 2010 at 6:54 pm

    # YankFanCA October 6th, 2010 at 6:52 pm

    Larsen will never have company until the trick is turned in the World Series.

    He could never be topped because of how many HOFers played on both sides. Just amazing.

  22. Yankee Trader October 6th, 2010 at 6:54 pm

    Ben-

    Sorry, but the Doc has walked a batter.

  23. Patrick October 6th, 2010 at 6:54 pm

    Looks to me that A-rod is mimicking taking a puff of a cigarette/cigar/joint/??

  24. Carl October 6th, 2010 at 6:56 pm

    # Patrick October 6th, 2010 at 6:54 pm

    Looks to me that A-rod is mimicking taking a puff of a cigarette/cigar/joint/??

    Telling the world how many ws rings he will have after this postseason.

  25. CountryClub October 6th, 2010 at 6:56 pm

    I swear, we better not see AJ come out of the pen in a big situation. I have a bad feeling that he’s going to actually trust him.

  26. Carl October 6th, 2010 at 6:56 pm

    Twooooooo

  27. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 6th, 2010 at 6:58 pm

    I already said no hitter. I said it before the end of the 5th inning. I have Cincy in the postseason. LOST THAT NO HITTER DOC!

  28. Patrick October 6th, 2010 at 6:58 pm

    I highly doubt A.J. pitches in this series. The only way I see it happening is if Andy is hurt for 1 or both of his starts. I expect that the first time we’ll see A.J. is in the ALCS.

  29. YankFanCA October 6th, 2010 at 6:59 pm

    Back to my “Minnesota Is A Veritable Icebox”: They actually have covered walkway networks connecting the downtown buildings in Minneapolis. Crazy! Why would anyone want to spend December through March there?

    Yes, there are lots of hardy Nordics who live there. But otherwise?? Seriously! Unless you ice fish, it sounds hellish. Then again, ice fishing itself sounds hellish.

  30. Patrick October 6th, 2010 at 6:59 pm

    Unless you’re a Reds fan, rooting against Halladay getting the no-hitter is just ridiculous

  31. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 6th, 2010 at 7:00 pm

    “Larsen will never have company until the trick is turned in the World Series.”

    Abso-Yankee-lutely.

  32. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 6th, 2010 at 7:01 pm

    “Unless you’re a Reds fan, rooting against Halladay getting the no-hitter is just ridiculous”

    Seriously? Damn I forgot you to post the postseason etiquette rules, Patrick! In this series I am a fan of the Reds.

  33. Doreen October 6th, 2010 at 7:01 pm

    Stop it, please.

  34. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 6th, 2010 at 7:02 pm

  35. Patrick October 6th, 2010 at 7:03 pm

    trisha,

    Sorry but you are not a Reds fan. It’s really goofy to root against baseball history from happening. Just my opinion so take it or leave it, no hard feelings

  36. djsunyc October 6th, 2010 at 7:03 pm

    my name is roy halladay and i am from the future john conner…

  37. Doreen October 6th, 2010 at 7:04 pm

    That was in reference to the discussion on the picture, by the way.

  38. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 6th, 2010 at 7:05 pm

    Patrick, I have the Reds over the Phils. So I am rooting for the Reds. I am not going to fall apart if he does something historic however. No hard feelings either.

    :)

  39. West Coast Yankee Fan October 6th, 2010 at 7:05 pm

    I nailed Texas beating Tampa. I don’t like Tampa in this series at all. They haven’t been playing well, they are fighting with their fans, can’t hit, holes in rotation, Crawford and Peña probably leaving hanging over their heads, just a bad feeling about Tampa.

  40. YankFanCA October 6th, 2010 at 7:05 pm

    Patrick,
    It actually makes sense to root for the Reds. Philly has what many believe is the best team in these playoffs (myself among them). We need to cheer on their opponents.

  41. Patrick October 6th, 2010 at 7:06 pm

    trisha,

    If you have money on the series I will accept that excuse. If not, you are still on the hook!

  42. m October 6th, 2010 at 7:06 pm

    I just want to say I ♥ Roy Halladay. I hate that he’s a Phillie.

  43. yankee21 October 6th, 2010 at 7:06 pm

    Glad “Kearnsey” is not startey.

    Interesting that in Joe G’s mind “Gardy” was on the hot seat in terms of being flipped for “Kearnsey” vs. “Grandy” being on the bubble.

    Whoever influenced Joe G to stay with Gardner, I’m glad it happened. Kearns has been absolutely atrocious the last month or so.

  44. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 6th, 2010 at 7:06 pm

    Doreen, I wasn’t sure which is why I didn’t respond. I haven’t been reading that commentary but if you asked for it to stop I have to believe it is out of control.

  45. CR9 October 6th, 2010 at 7:06 pm

    Roy Halladay has a no hitter.

  46. Patrick October 6th, 2010 at 7:07 pm

    It actually makes sense to root for the Reds. Philly has what many believe is the best team in these playoffs (myself among them). We need to cheer on their opponents.

    Ah yes because they will get our good vibes and play better!

    Seriously though, I am a baseball fan and I love to see good baseball. I love to see baseball history as it’s made. Roy Halladay is the best pitcher in baseball and he’s proving that once again tonight. I’d love to see him finish the ——

  47. BTX October 6th, 2010 at 7:07 pm

    It’s not even fair… these Reds don’t even have a chance against Doc lol

    Would be something if he gets a no-no in his first career postseason start

  48. YankFanCA October 6th, 2010 at 7:07 pm

    WCYF — I agree with you. I see Texas winning this . . . maybe in 3 straight.

  49. YankFanCA October 6th, 2010 at 7:07 pm

    WCYF — I agree with you. I see Texas winning this . . . maybe in 3 straight.

  50. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 6th, 2010 at 7:08 pm

    “It actually makes sense to root for the Reds. Philly has what many believe is the best team in these playoffs (myself among them). We need to cheer on their opponents.”

    You betcha!

    “trisha,

    If you have money on the series I will accept that excuse. If not, you are still on the hook!”

    Of course I have money on the series. $100. Which I will pay myself if I win the prediction chart. If not, I pay it to whoever wins.

    As I said, GO CINCY!

    :)

  51. CR9 October 6th, 2010 at 7:08 pm

    no hitter no hitter no hitter no hitter no hitter n o hitter!

  52. Erica in NY October 6th, 2010 at 7:08 pm

    0 Days, 1 Hour, and 22 Minutes until Game 1 of the ALDS :grin:

  53. Faiaz October 6th, 2010 at 7:08 pm

    Laura – I Bleed Blue October 6th, 2010 at 6:44 pm
    That photo really makes me wonder what the heck Alex is saying to Jeter! LOL!
    —–
    I think I have an idea about what A-rod is saying to the Cap but just to NOT be offensive to anyone here I will let the blanks be whatever letters you want it to be.

    Jeter: You gotta put with two in the _ ink and one in the _ _ ink
    A-Rod: No way, I always go with two in the _ ink and NONE in the _ _ ink

  54. West Coast Yankee Fan October 6th, 2010 at 7:09 pm

    Hard to imagine anyone seriously picking the Reds over the Phils. The Phils are loaded and light years better than Cincy. Halladay is just sick.

  55. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 6th, 2010 at 7:09 pm

    “Roy Halladay is the best pitcher in baseball”

    ?????

    He might be the best pitcher in the NL, if he is.

  56. Patrick October 6th, 2010 at 7:09 pm

    Ok trisha, since you have some money riding on the outcome that’s cool w/ me. Not that you care what I think :)

  57. djsunyc October 6th, 2010 at 7:09 pm

    come on roy…you’re representing the AL east down there :)

  58. YankFanCA October 6th, 2010 at 7:09 pm

    Yes, Halladay is awesome. I still want to see the Phillies lose. Just as many National League fans were rooting against the Yankees in ’98 through ’00.

  59. yankee21 October 6th, 2010 at 7:09 pm

    Interesting that NYY have targeted what are arguably the 3 top pitchers in baseball over the last 22 months, Halladay, CC and Lee.

    Interesting that each have made their mark, big time, in the post season so far both last year and this year.

    It is one thing to be good during the season, it is another to step up come crunch time.
    No wonder the Yankees offered Montero for Lee and allegedly also 1:1 for Halladay.

  60. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 6th, 2010 at 7:10 pm

    “Would be something if he gets a no-no in his first career postseason start”

    He already gave up the first no.

  61. Ruby Tuesday October 6th, 2010 at 7:10 pm

    Another excellent read from Tom Friedman on “The Terminator vs. Big Oil.”

    I hope you take a look at http://tinyurl.com/298zg9j

  62. Patrick October 6th, 2010 at 7:10 pm

    Haha trisha, he is easily the best pitcher in baseball and has been for a few years now. Sure there are guys that have outstanding years and win the Cy but Halladay has consistently been the best pitcher over the last say 3-5 years.

  63. djsunyc October 6th, 2010 at 7:10 pm

    no team in the NL will beat philly, they got an almost AL lineup with halladay + oswalt + hamels. every other NL team is basically triple A.

    hope we can get a rematch in the series.

  64. Doreen October 6th, 2010 at 7:11 pm

    Trisha -

    It was getting a little too raunchy.

    I hadn’t refreshed before I typed, and so I didn’t see the stuff going on with Reds/Phillies. When my post came up, it looked like I was responding to that, which I wasn’t. :)

  65. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 6th, 2010 at 7:11 pm

    “Ok trisha, since you have some money riding on the outcome that’s cool w/ me. Not that you care what I think”

    Well at least you understand where I’m coming from. That’s not a bad thing. I have nothing against Doc.

  66. Ruby Tuesday October 6th, 2010 at 7:11 pm

    Congratulation on the no-hitter, Roy Halladay !

  67. m October 6th, 2010 at 7:11 pm

    In my newspaper there was a big spread on the 3 former AL Cy Young pitchers from today’s games.

  68. Rich FL October 6th, 2010 at 7:12 pm

    I was not alive for Larson in ’56….this is the best pitching performance I’ve ever watched. Complete command of the game.

  69. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 6th, 2010 at 7:12 pm

    Halliday is an incredible pitcher Patrick. I don’t know that I’m ready to annoint him the best pitcher in the game, but I guess you are telling me he is the 2010 NL Cy.

  70. yankee21 October 6th, 2010 at 7:13 pm

    As long as SF doesn’t get ambushed by ATL for some strange reason,, I believe they have a shot at beating Philly.

    Although I picked PHI and NYY to meet up for round 2.

  71. Faiaz October 6th, 2010 at 7:13 pm

    I sure hope Doc gets the no-hitter but I got a feeling that he’s gonna give up that hit next inning :(

  72. Kelvin October 6th, 2010 at 7:14 pm

    6 outs away from a no hitter for Doc

  73. Nick in SF October 6th, 2010 at 7:14 pm

    Hey Patrick, I just wrote you to (finally) about our bet. Sorry it took so long. I’ve been spending all my waking moments thinking good thoughts about the Yankees (they need it) and trying to forgive Girardi for screwing me over in the month of September(still working on it).

    Glad the thread title refers to Grandy and not some ephinany from Girardi’s binder.

  74. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 6th, 2010 at 7:14 pm

    Doreen I thought you could have meant stop the arguing (Cincy/Phils) but I wasn’t sure. I’m happy I didn’t see the raunchy stuff.

  75. m October 6th, 2010 at 7:14 pm

    The crowd is making it much more dramatic. They are in perfect synch.

  76. West Coast Yankee Fan October 6th, 2010 at 7:15 pm

    Halladay is the best pitcher in baseball. No doubt about it IMO. 169-86 with a 3.32 ERA pitching in the AL East except for this year.

  77. YanksfaninPA October 6th, 2010 at 7:15 pm

    Hour and 20 mins until game time!

  78. GreenBeret7 October 6th, 2010 at 7:16 pm

    I don’t mind the talk about Lee coming to the yankees. It beats the Hell out of reading the two idiots whining about Royce Ring not being added to the post season roster. That and more idiocy from a “fan” reminding everyone that he “called it” on the Texas/Tampa game. That took some major insight to say that Lee would be good. How about reminding everyone of the things that you “called” that blew up in your face.

  79. CR9 October 6th, 2010 at 7:16 pm

    Patrick – I respect your opinion, but I dont root for baseball history unless it’s for us. And Ben Farber’s post is the prime reason why. How a “Yankees fan” can compare a no hitter in the LDS to a PERFECT GAME in a WORLD SERIES is beyond me And that’s likely the sentiment that would be heard from ESPN if it happened.

  80. qiantom October 6th, 2010 at 7:16 pm

    Doc and Lee don’t walk anybody. CC gives up too many free bases.

  81. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 6th, 2010 at 7:17 pm

    “no hitter no hitter no hitter no hitter no hitter n o hitter!”

    :)

    I actually tried to get it in before the end of the 5th, along with the shut out.

    We’ll see if the superstition gods are paying attention.

  82. Patrick October 6th, 2010 at 7:17 pm

    Halliday is an incredible pitcher Patrick. I don’t know that I’m ready to annoint him the best pitcher in the game, but I guess you are telling me he is the 2010 NL Cy.

    Ok tell me who’s better and I’ll tell you why you’re wrong :)

    And yes, I am telling you he’s the NL Cy

  83. yankee21 October 6th, 2010 at 7:18 pm

    There is one similarity between Halladay and Greg Maddox aside from their CY YOUNG pedigree.

    They both do not waste pitches. Every pitch has (had) a purpose). Impeccable command.

  84. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 6th, 2010 at 7:18 pm

    “That and more idiocy from a “fan” reminding everyone that he “called it” on the Texas/Tampa game.”

    :D

    I miss a lot of posts – thank God.

    Did you get my email from Chad?

  85. Patrick October 6th, 2010 at 7:20 pm

    CR9,

    Halladay’s —- if he gets it can’t compare to Larsen’s perfect game, that much is obvious. But it’s still an amazing feat if Halladay can do it. As Rich said, this is one of the most dominating performances in recent history. I am a Yankee fan but I’m also a Baseball fan.

  86. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 6th, 2010 at 7:20 pm

    Patrick, I’m not saying anyone is better because I didn’t fine comb the NL pitching stats. I know Lincecum didn’t have a very consistent season but beyond that really I didn’t pay close attention to the pitchers.

  87. Cashmoney October 6th, 2010 at 7:21 pm

    It took Maddux better part of 6 years in Chicago to find that impeccable control.

    Fun fact : He walked 70 batters 5 times in Chicago.

  88. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 6th, 2010 at 7:21 pm

    Maybe if Travis Wood started the score would be 0-0. Maybe not.

  89. Patrick October 6th, 2010 at 7:22 pm

    trisha,

    I’m taking a broader view of it. I think Halladay has been the best pitcher in all of baseball since 2007. He might not have been the number one guy in each of those seasons but if you look at it as a whole, he’s the best.

  90. yankee21 October 6th, 2010 at 7:22 pm

    How long did it take Halladay to find it too?

    bottom line, they both found it,,, big time.

  91. Doreen October 6th, 2010 at 7:22 pm

    Hi GB7 -

    Hope you’re well. (Aside from the blog agita, that is. :) )

  92. BTX October 6th, 2010 at 7:22 pm

    I’d take CC, King Felix, Strasburg, Lee, Verlander, Wainwright, just to name a few, over Halladay.

  93. Cashmoney October 6th, 2010 at 7:23 pm

    I am rooting for the Reds as well Tricia I basically root for every underdog except when it comes to my Yankees.

    I am hoping for a Lidge implosion ! unlikely though… Roy might go all the way!

  94. blake October 6th, 2010 at 7:23 pm

    No hitter through 7…yea I’d say Doc can pitch in the playoffs.

  95. Faiaz October 6th, 2010 at 7:24 pm

    BTX,
    You ARE being sarcastic right?

  96. Faiaz October 6th, 2010 at 7:25 pm

    ok here we go… the no hitter ends here

  97. SJ44 October 6th, 2010 at 7:25 pm

    Strasburg is not close to being better than Halladay. Please.

    Verlander and Wainright also aren’t close.

    The guy is great. Not good, great, and has been for a long time.

  98. Faiaz October 6th, 2010 at 7:26 pm

    cmon stubby

  99. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 6th, 2010 at 7:26 pm

    “I am rooting for the Reds as well Tricia I basically root for every underdog except when it comes to my Yankees.”

    Cashmoney, I basically do the same thing. :)

    Do you think that a no hitter in the first game of the postseason cuts out the heart and soul of the competition? Don’t forget the Reds haven’t been here for a while. I hope they’re able to regroup.

  100. djsunyc October 6th, 2010 at 7:26 pm

    i’m just happy doc is finally getting a chance to do this on a national stage…

  101. GreenBeret7 October 6th, 2010 at 7:26 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue October 6th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
    “That and more idiocy from a “fan” reminding everyone that he “called it” on the Texas/Tampa game.”

    I miss a lot of posts – thank God.

    Did you get my email from Chad?

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    No I haven’t Trisha. I can’t get a message to him for whatever reason. I can reach Jeff Marx, but, don’t want to message him to pass “love letters” between you and me. I’ll try it again.

  102. YankFanCA October 6th, 2010 at 7:27 pm

    The Giants are the only NL team to have a shot against Philly. If Cain and Lincecum are on top of their game, it could be a fun series of 2 – 1 and 3 – 2 games.

  103. blake October 6th, 2010 at 7:27 pm

    The Reds look helpless….his stuff is moving all over the place and he’s putting it wherever he wants. Masterful is all you can say.

  104. MTU October 6th, 2010 at 7:27 pm

    Halladay is just plain ridiculous !

  105. Nick in SF October 6th, 2010 at 7:27 pm

    Personal grudges and other strange reasons aside, how can one not be happy for Halladay right now?

    The poor guy toiled (for millions) up in Toronto for years and finally gets into a playoff game. Shame it’s for the hated Phillies, but still.

  106. SJ44 October 6th, 2010 at 7:27 pm

    Pitching in the post-season, especially for the first time, isn’t as easy as Doc is making it look.

    What a performance!

  107. BronxBorn October 6th, 2010 at 7:28 pm

    Trish and GB – if you want to email to me I can exchange your love notes if you like

  108. Faiaz October 6th, 2010 at 7:28 pm

    hot damn how can you NOT be a fan of this guy… it’s done, if no one got a hit this inning and looked that bad against Doc… IT’S OVER.

  109. m October 6th, 2010 at 7:28 pm

    Halladay dominated in one of the toughest divisions in baseball.

    He must be wondering why the Jays didn’t hit like this when he was there. :)

  110. Fran the original October 6th, 2010 at 7:28 pm

    Halliday is really impressive tonight.

  111. Doreen October 6th, 2010 at 7:28 pm

    The Reds look like they just want this over with now. They may not get a hit this entire series after this. (j/k)

    And this team led their league in BA, HRs and RBI.

    Halladay is something else.

  112. djsunyc October 6th, 2010 at 7:28 pm

    not for nothing, but doc halladay is the mariano rivera of starters. the guy has precision accuracy, it’s amazing.

  113. Patrick October 6th, 2010 at 7:29 pm

    SJ44,

    Can you imagine of Amaro had kept Lee for this year? Oswault has been really good but Lee and Halladay in the same rotation!? Good God

  114. JetergroundsintoanotherDP October 6th, 2010 at 7:29 pm

    CC isn’t even in the same conversation as Lee or Halladay.

    When he goes out in a hour and gives up 3-4 runs in 6 innings and loses, it will become clear he’s not a real “ace”.

  115. JobaTipsHisCap October 6th, 2010 at 7:29 pm

    I hope Reds can get a hit.

  116. Cashmoney October 6th, 2010 at 7:29 pm

    Do you think that a no hitter in the first game of the postseason cuts out the heart and soul of the competition?
    —————————
    no, it’s one game. The heart and soul is tomorrow’s pitching and hitting . Which reside in the form of Cuento and Hamel/ Oswalt. I see little connection there…

  117. YankFanCA October 6th, 2010 at 7:30 pm

    Don’t the Yankees have decent numbers against Halladay — at least from a W – L perspective?

  118. Yank1 October 6th, 2010 at 7:30 pm

    Halladay’s last 2 years in the AL, Halladay averaged a 2.78 ERA, 243 innings, and a wicked 6-1 K/BB ratio.

    He is the best pitcher in baseball.

  119. djsunyc October 6th, 2010 at 7:30 pm

    amaro not keeping lee could end up costing him at least 1 world series ring.

  120. Betsy October 6th, 2010 at 7:30 pm

    Strasburg over Halladay? LOL

    There’s really nothing we could have done – Toronto did not want to deal with the Yankees.

  121. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 6th, 2010 at 7:30 pm

    Do you and Pat M exchange emails? He can give you the information about the alternate forum (of course used only for purposes of escaping after the Yankee pitching gives up a hit and parts of the forum start to sky dive.) I and Fran live there during the postseason but it’s for our own baseball superstitious reasons as much as the reason we first did it – to escape the overwhelming negativity that accompanied the Yankees winning the 2009 World Series.

    As they say, go figure.

    ;)

  122. djsunyc October 6th, 2010 at 7:30 pm

    yank1 – he did that in the AL east of all divisions…

  123. JobaTipsHisCap October 6th, 2010 at 7:31 pm

    Halliday might be awsome in NL. In AL? hell no

  124. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 6th, 2010 at 7:31 pm

    “CC isn’t even in the same conversation as Lee or Halladay”

    You’re right. CC pitches in the AL EAst.

  125. JobaTipsHisCap October 6th, 2010 at 7:32 pm

    I hope Halliday is one night wonder in this playoff

  126. djsunyc October 6th, 2010 at 7:32 pm

    is jason werth really edge from the WWE?

  127. GreenBeret7 October 6th, 2010 at 7:32 pm

    Doreen October 6th, 2010 at 7:22 pm
    Hi GB7 -

    Hope you’re well. (Aside from the blog agita, that is. )

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    Hello, Doreen. Yes, doing quite well…..Thank you for asking. Hope all is going well in your two households. Just couldn’t stomach the idiocy and needed a break from it. I don’t figure tonight will be much better. even if the yanks lead off the game with 8 solo homers, they’ll get hammered for only scoring with solo homers and the #9 hitter will get it in the neck for choking.

  128. CR9 October 6th, 2010 at 7:32 pm

    The 8th inning was purely dominating. That said, please let the no-no go bye-bye. The Reds make a playoffs and dont even get a hit, that would be sad.

  129. JobaTipsHisCap October 6th, 2010 at 7:33 pm

    I am with you on this, CR9

  130. YankFanCA October 6th, 2010 at 7:33 pm

    I don’t know much about the Reds’ pen, but they’ve held the Phillies to just 1 hit since the end of the 2nd.

  131. SJ44 October 6th, 2010 at 7:33 pm

    Patrick,

    That’s still a trade I don’t understand.

    If Lee and Halladay were in the same rotation, with this offense, the Phillies would be as close to unbeatable as it gets.

  132. Betsy October 6th, 2010 at 7:33 pm

    Because Halladay didn’t dominate when he was in the AL?

  133. clownthrowindown October 6th, 2010 at 7:34 pm

    “CC isn’t even in the same conversation as Lee or Halladay”

    You’re right. CC pitches in the AL EAst
    …………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….

    Yeh they don’t get 5 free wins against Baltimore.

  134. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 6th, 2010 at 7:34 pm

    “even if the yanks lead off the game with 8 solo homers, they’ll get hammered for only scoring with solo homers and the #9 hitter will get it in the neck for choking.”

    LMAO.

    Except that it isn’t too far from the truth here. Pathetic really.

  135. m October 6th, 2010 at 7:34 pm

    Your credibility takes a big hit if you want to argue that Halladay is not that good.

  136. RalphieD October 6th, 2010 at 7:35 pm

    “CC isn’t even in the same conversation as Lee or Halladay.

    When he goes out in a hour and gives up 3-4 runs in 6 innings and loses, it will become clear he’s not a real “ace”.”

    did you intend this to be stupid?

  137. Doreen October 6th, 2010 at 7:35 pm

    GB7 -

    I know. :(

    As for me, I’ll probably be asleep by the 3rd inning anyway. :lol:

    We’re doing okay, both households, thank you. :)

  138. West Coast Yankee Fan October 6th, 2010 at 7:35 pm

    GB7 – Actually many picked Tampa. I don’t make many predictions, I’m not a seer. I observe what I see and have an opinion. I thought and think that Texas is a better team right now. Tampa may come back and win three in a row, it’s baseball. If they do I’ll be the first to say my opinion turned out to be incorrect.

    Hope that’s clear.

  139. Patrick October 6th, 2010 at 7:36 pm

    SJ44,

    I’m still pretty intimidated by a top 3 of Halladay, Hamels, Oswault but Halladay and Lee would have been unbeatable.

  140. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 6th, 2010 at 7:36 pm

    “Yeh they don’t get 5 free wins against Baltimore.”

    Nobody does. Welcome to Buck’s Dodge, bucko.

  141. Betsy October 6th, 2010 at 7:36 pm

    There’s no point in responding to this guy; he’s clueless.

  142. Giuseppe Franco October 6th, 2010 at 7:37 pm

    # clownthrowindown October 6th, 2010 at 7:34 pm

    Yeh they don’t get 5 free wins against Baltimore.

    ———–

    No, just two free outs (the 8th and 9th hitters) every nine plate appearances.

  143. blake October 6th, 2010 at 7:37 pm

    Amaro should never have traded Cliff Lee…it was a mistake, but you have to give him credit for essentially admitting that it was a mistake and going out and trading for Oswalt.

  144. JetergroundsintoanotherDP October 6th, 2010 at 7:37 pm

    I can read the comments about Sabathia already…

    “he doesn’t have command of his fastball”
    “how can he walk the number 9 hitter”
    “he’s throwing a lot of pitches”
    “why can’t he finish these hitters off”
    “we better win game 2″

  145. Tyler October 6th, 2010 at 7:37 pm

    Giving up Lee didn’t make sense and sitll doesn’t but at least Amaro corrected it by going out and getting Oswalt. Granted he gave up more this way than he would have the other way but he still has fielded a team that should cruise through the NL for the 3rd straight year.

  146. JobaTipsHisCap October 6th, 2010 at 7:38 pm

    no respect to most NL lineups.
    They are not major league.

  147. Tyler October 6th, 2010 at 7:38 pm

    Dang Blake you beat me to it lol.

  148. Faiaz October 6th, 2010 at 7:38 pm

    I can’t believe this is happening, he is really about to pitch a no-hitter. Just to be mentioned in the same breath as Larsen is amazing.

    Quick fact: Yankees’ Bill Bevens was one out away from a no-hitter against the Brooklyn Dodgers in 47′

  149. Betsy October 6th, 2010 at 7:39 pm

    I guess Hamels is a good example of why you shouldn’t give up on a pitcher; even for most of the first half or at least, part of it, he wasn’t pitching very well at all.

    I still wouldn’t write in the Phillies because whoever the AL team is, they’ll be playing much better than they are now……….still, they are formidable.

  150. Yank1 October 6th, 2010 at 7:39 pm

    Oswalt is not a bad compromise for them at all.
    He’s a competitor and has pitched very well in the postseason in the past. He has a 1.74 ERA since being traded. Give Amaro credit for realizing he screwed up and rectifying it.

    Not only do they have 3 very good pitchers, they have 3 guys who all work deep into games. They don’t need to expose their pen much at all.

  151. Tyler October 6th, 2010 at 7:39 pm

    JobaTipsHisCap October 6th, 2010 at 7:38 pm
    no respect to most NL lineups.
    They are not major league.
    ——————-

    This Reds lineup isn’t that bad though… Votto, Rolen, Phillips, Bruce. Those guys are all pretty solid.

  152. Betsy October 6th, 2010 at 7:40 pm

    The Phillies, to their credit, have a farm system where they can get the big guys….They would fit in nicely in the AL East.

    Halladay is obscene.

  153. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 6th, 2010 at 7:40 pm

    “Hope that’s clear”

    GB – beware the mantra.

    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  154. Tyler October 6th, 2010 at 7:40 pm

    I feel like Hamels just has very little room for error. If he can’t establish his fastball at least to a small degree or his velocity is down then he gets crushed. If you can sit changeup he’s done. He just has everything working right now..

  155. JetergroundsintoanotherDP October 6th, 2010 at 7:40 pm

    this game is the perfect lead-in to watching the overrated Sabathia.

    you are watching what a number one starter is paid to do.

    CC is crap compared to Halladay. Absolute crap.

  156. blake October 6th, 2010 at 7:40 pm

    Must be nice to be able to cut it, sink it, change speeds, and throw any of it wherever you want to.

  157. Betsy October 6th, 2010 at 7:40 pm

    To think Doc was sent all the way to A-ball to fix himself.

  158. djsunyc October 6th, 2010 at 7:41 pm

    let’s go doc…one more….

  159. SJ44 October 6th, 2010 at 7:41 pm

    You have to excuse the troll.

    His Red Sox aren’t in the playoffs and he was dropped often on his head as a child.

    It leads to the stupidity he has posted so far this evening.

  160. Faiaz October 6th, 2010 at 7:41 pm

    This is ridiculous

  161. m October 6th, 2010 at 7:41 pm

    JobaTips,

    What’s the best division in all of baseball?

  162. ET October 6th, 2010 at 7:41 pm

    You don’t need a box score or anything to tell you how dominant Doc has been. Look at the swings the Reds hitters (who are very good BTW) are taking. They are expanding, they are swinging early, they have no clue what to do up there. He started out by out-thinking them, now he’s just dominating them because the Reds are panicking and look very uncomfortable.

  163. Fran the original October 6th, 2010 at 7:41 pm

    Trisha, I think I should have picked the Phillies in 3.

  164. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 6th, 2010 at 7:41 pm

    “I can’t believe this is happening, he is really about to pitch a no-hitter. Just to be mentioned in the same breath as Larsen is amazing.”

    Except Larsen did it in the world series. This is really something, but it isn’t the bomb.

  165. Tyler October 6th, 2010 at 7:42 pm

    I wonder if a no-hitter is actually a bad thing in a playoff series? Think about it. He gets this out, the team comes out, jumps around has a huge celebration…. maybe there is a hangover next game… There isn’t much precedent on this obviously but I wonder if it makes the Phils a little unfocused and the Reds are little more hyped up.

  166. Faiaz October 6th, 2010 at 7:42 pm

    i feel bad that he gave up that walk

  167. JobaTipsHisCap October 6th, 2010 at 7:42 pm

    seinfeld time, don’t care about NLDS

  168. Fran the original October 6th, 2010 at 7:42 pm

    Congratulations to Roy Halladay. Amazing performance.

  169. 108 stitches October 6th, 2010 at 7:42 pm

    Burnett was envious of Roy Halladay after the 1st inning.

  170. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 6th, 2010 at 7:42 pm

    Fran, I picked Cincy in 4. I allowed for the Doc game.

    ;)

  171. blake October 6th, 2010 at 7:42 pm

    Wow, what a play by Ruiz there to close the no no. Now that’s what you call a playoff pitching performance.

  172. djsunyc October 6th, 2010 at 7:42 pm

    wow – imagine having a ticket to that game?

  173. Bronx Jeers October 6th, 2010 at 7:42 pm

    How many of you thought Miguel Cairo was going to break up that no-no up?

    I say let Doc get the no-hitter out of his system now. :wink:

  174. Doreen October 6th, 2010 at 7:42 pm

    Holy Cow!

    Amazing.
    Simply Amazing.

  175. JetergroundsintoanotherDP October 6th, 2010 at 7:42 pm

    that’s how you do it, folks.

    now get ready for the fat slob to stink in another playoff game.

  176. CR9 October 6th, 2010 at 7:42 pm

    “Except Larsen did it in the world series. This is really something, but it isn’t the bomb.”

    Exactly.

    However, what a play by Ruiz to end it. Unbelievable. That was ticketed for a hit.

  177. YanksfaninPA October 6th, 2010 at 7:42 pm

    HALLADAY A NO HITTER! WOW!

    Hope CC can match him with a shutout tonight!

  178. Betsy October 6th, 2010 at 7:43 pm

    Wow………congrats to Doc, lol

    I’m envious and hateful of the Phillies right now.

  179. Faiaz October 6th, 2010 at 7:43 pm

    I wonder what the Yankees are talking about in the clubhouse right about now

  180. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 6th, 2010 at 7:43 pm

    CONGRATULATIONS TO DOC!!!

    He really is an amazing pitcher.

    Now may the Phils lose all the rest of their damned games!

    :)

  181. m October 6th, 2010 at 7:43 pm

    Congrats to Doc, hopefully the only win they get this series.

  182. Betsy October 6th, 2010 at 7:43 pm

    Um, no TBS, Larsen doesn’t have company because he pitched a perfect game.

  183. Laura - I Bleed Blue October 6th, 2010 at 7:43 pm

    Proof of how inferior the NL is to the AL. Halladay had zero no-hitters in the AL. He goes to the NL and in his first year, he pitches two of them.

  184. Tyler October 6th, 2010 at 7:44 pm

    That is one of the best pitching performances of all time.

    Looks like Buster Olney was right on target when he said Halladay would have “rookie” jitters…. lol

  185. MTU October 6th, 2010 at 7:44 pm

    People will be talking about this for a long time.

    Congratulations MR. HALLADAY !

    Absolutely wonderful. :) :) :) :)

  186. CR9 October 6th, 2010 at 7:44 pm

    “Don Larsen has company now” TBS

    What a joke. Larsen did it in a World Series, a PERFECT GAME. To compare a no hitter and a perfect game is ludicrous.

  187. Jim October 6th, 2010 at 7:44 pm

    Good for Doc, reminds me of Mattingly when he finally got the the playoffs – just ravenous.

  188. Chad Jennings October 6th, 2010 at 7:44 pm

    The Target Center put the Phillies game on the big screen with one out in the ninth. The Yankees pitchers shagging during BP stopped paying attention to the balls being hit toward them, turned their backs to the plate and watched the final two outs.

  189. TR10 October 6th, 2010 at 7:44 pm

    Outstanding performance, congrats Roy

  190. Tyler October 6th, 2010 at 7:44 pm

    Faiaz October 6th, 2010 at 7:43 pm
    I wonder what the Yankees are talking about in the clubhouse right about now
    ————————–

    Thank god he’s out of the AL East….

  191. SJ44 October 6th, 2010 at 7:44 pm

    He’s pitched a perfect game and a no hitter in the same season and the no hitter is in his first ever post-season start.

    Amazing performance.

  192. JetergroundsintoanotherDP October 6th, 2010 at 7:44 pm

    “I wonder what the Yankees are talking about in the clubhouse right about now”

    They’re thinking, “crap, they’ve got Halladay and we’re stuck with Sabathia”.

  193. Chad Jennings October 6th, 2010 at 7:45 pm

    Target Field, not Target Center. I’m sitting in some sort of sports venue named after Target, that’s all I know.

  194. Patrick October 6th, 2010 at 7:45 pm

    Incredible performance by Roy, simply incredible.

  195. blake October 6th, 2010 at 7:45 pm

    Nobody was hitting Halladay tonight…that was incredible. The Reds didn’t have a chance.

  196. ET October 6th, 2010 at 7:45 pm

    Hamels won the NLCS MVP and WS MVP and was 4-0 with a 1.80 ERA in 5 postseason games in 2008. He was one of the better pitchers in the NL in 07 and 08.

    He just had a down year last year, but he isn’t new to being a dominant pitcher. He carried the Phils to a title 2 years ago. He sucked last year but the last 3 of 4 years, he has been very good.

  197. Ruby Tuesday October 6th, 2010 at 7:45 pm

    Not nearly as impressive as the pseudo-perfect game by Mike Mussina on that Sunday before nine-eleven; that continues to be the best pitching performance I have ever seen in person.

  198. MTU October 6th, 2010 at 7:45 pm

    And by the way, that’s a perfect game and a no-no this year.

    OMG.

  199. JobaTipsHisCap October 6th, 2010 at 7:45 pm

    I could care less about the no-no in playoff.
    One win is just a win, it’s not like they lead 2-0

  200. Jim October 6th, 2010 at 7:45 pm

    CR9, give Doc his due, we’ve watched him forever – he’s a good guy and a great competitor. I’m happy he had this moment after all this time.

  201. GreenBeret7 October 6th, 2010 at 7:45 pm

    Outstanding game by Halladay. A wily veteran with great stuff and ice water in his veins, takes advantage of a young, strikeout prone offense just like he’s supposed to do. The 2nd best post season game ever pitched? Yeah, I think so.

  202. Benny Blanco October 6th, 2010 at 7:45 pm

    Roy is a beast! hands down!

  203. Patrick October 6th, 2010 at 7:46 pm

    Pitching in the playoffs? If you’re Roy Halladay, it ain’t no thang

  204. Fran the original October 6th, 2010 at 7:46 pm

    Fran, I picked Cincy in 4. I allowed for the Doc game.
    *********************
    Trisha,

    You still have a chance :)

  205. Betsy October 6th, 2010 at 7:46 pm

    Oh for pete’s sake – Larsen pitched a perfect game, NOT a no-hitter. Roy is phenomenal, but that’s not fair to Larsen.

  206. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 6th, 2010 at 7:46 pm

    “Um, no TBS, Larsen doesn’t have company because he pitched a perfect game.”

    Zactly. :roll:

    But this still brought tears to my eyes. A work of art.

    THE PHILS MUST BE SHUT DOWN!!! DO YOU HEAR ME? SHUT DOWN!!!

  207. D-Man October 6th, 2010 at 7:47 pm

    One of the most dominant postseason performances ever.

    Just think how he would be viewed if he didn’t spend over a decade in irrelevancy. Best pitcher in baseball, hands down.

  208. Donna L October 6th, 2010 at 7:47 pm

    Wow. I hate the Phillies, but that was amazing. (I watched the live stream of the 9th innning on sportzkrieg.com; I was able to watch a lot of the Rays-Rangers game there earlier today.)

  209. Fran the original October 6th, 2010 at 7:47 pm

    Wasn’t Halliday AJ’s mentor in Toronto? Too bad some of this stuff didn’t rub off on AJ.

  210. 108 stitches October 6th, 2010 at 7:47 pm

    Halladay is as cool as the other side of the pillow. Ice in his veins.

  211. SJ44 October 6th, 2010 at 7:47 pm

    You can’t discount what the guy just did.

    It’s baseball history.

  212. Faiaz October 6th, 2010 at 7:47 pm

    C.C. no-hitter tonight… Let’s go big fella

  213. MTU October 6th, 2010 at 7:47 pm

    You gotta love this guy no matter what team you root for.

    An absolute superstar.

  214. Vader October 6th, 2010 at 7:47 pm

    Cliff Lee might look good in Pinstripes, but Doc already looks great in them…however red ones.

    What could have been if Toronto had only been willing to deal him into the AL East….

  215. Niblick October 6th, 2010 at 7:47 pm

    I can’t believe Girardi said that Kearns wasn’t starting because he’s been struggling with injuries.

    Did he really consider playing “Kearnsy”, who struck out three times and fouled out once in Saturday night’s game, leaving 9 men on base, over “Gardy”, who had 5 stolen bases in the two games? If so, then Girardi is a certifiable loon.

  216. West Coast Yankee Fan October 6th, 2010 at 7:47 pm

    Halladay is just amazing. I’m happy for him.

    Hard to imagine that Halladay and Burnett were 1 and 2 for the Jays. That’s like saying that Mercury and Pluto are both in the solar system.

  217. Betsy October 6th, 2010 at 7:48 pm

    ET, maybe it was the innings Hamel pitched in 2008 that hurt him; I think he pitched over 230 innings that year.

  218. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 6th, 2010 at 7:48 pm

    “Trisha,

    You still have a chance :)

    :lol:

  219. Faiaz October 6th, 2010 at 7:48 pm

    Some people are just born to do certain things… tonight we know what Doc was born to do.

  220. Carl October 6th, 2010 at 7:49 pm

    I’m sorry but that was just embarrassing for the Reds.

    Grats to Roy.

  221. D-Man October 6th, 2010 at 7:49 pm

    Oswalt is 23-3 in his career against Cincinnati

    Bye Bye Red birds :D

  222. Cashman needs to go October 6th, 2010 at 7:49 pm

    and Roy shows everyone why prospect hugging is just plain dumb….

  223. Betsy October 6th, 2010 at 7:49 pm

    SJ, who’s discounting it? I’m sorry, but Larsen pitched a perfect game – it’s different than a no-hitter and TBS should not be calling HIS game a no-hitter so that they can lump Doc’s game in with his.

    This was a historic game, but no – Larsen doesn’t have company because there is a difference between a PG and a no-hitter.

  224. Betsy October 6th, 2010 at 7:49 pm

    SJ, who’s discounting it? I’m sorry, but Larsen pitched a perfect game – it’s different than a no-hitter and TBS should not be calling HIS game a no-hitter so that they can lump Doc’s game in with his.

    This was a historic game, but no – Larsen doesn’t have company because there is a difference between a PG and a no-hitter.

  225. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 6th, 2010 at 7:50 pm

    Fran – gonna go cook my food, even though I’m not hungry. We need to start the Yanks off right!

    :)

  226. JetergroundsintoanotherDP October 6th, 2010 at 7:50 pm

    This is going to be a hilarious evening.

    There have been two brilliant pitching performances so far.

    And you just know that CC is not capable of doing the same for his team.

    I can hear the excuse of “it’s too hard to have to shut the other team down” referring to the inevitable offensive struggles from the Yanks.

    4-1 Twins tonight. Mark it down.

  227. MTU October 6th, 2010 at 7:50 pm

    Want to know what a pitching “clinic” looks like.

    You saw one tonite.

    That was poetry.

  228. D-Man October 6th, 2010 at 7:50 pm

    “4-1 Twins tonight. Mark it down.”

    Maybe, but how many DPs will Jeter ground into?

  229. tampayank October 6th, 2010 at 7:51 pm

    Congrats to Halladay but that doesn’t happen versus any American League Playoff Team this year, just my 2 cents

  230. CR9 October 6th, 2010 at 7:51 pm

    Sad for the Reds. Hopefully, the Reds can turn it around and nod the series at 1 on Friday.

  231. Betsy October 6th, 2010 at 7:51 pm

    Um, the Yankees offered Montero for Halladay. Why don’t you tell us how Cashman should have put a gun to the Jays’ heads and forced them to trade Doc to us?

  232. Doreen October 6th, 2010 at 7:51 pm

    How can you not be happy for Halladay? As a baseball fan, how can you not appreciate this game?

    That being said, it’s laughable how they’re avoiding calling Don Larsen’s perfect game a perfect game, calling it a no-hitter. Laughable.

  233. Fran the original October 6th, 2010 at 7:51 pm

    Trisha,

    My burgers are cooked, but I am not going to eat until later. Too nervous.

  234. m October 6th, 2010 at 7:51 pm

    Is that Rosenthal? He’s so short.

  235. West Coast Yankee Fan October 6th, 2010 at 7:52 pm

    The Reds are the best hitting team in the NL if I am not mistaken. Talk about dominant, did they hit anything hard? No.

    Command and movement is everything and Halladays duplicates his motion better than anyone I can think of. Mo is in that conversation too.

  236. Benny Blanco October 6th, 2010 at 7:52 pm

    I remember AJ saying he learned a lot from Doc after he signed with the yankees. LMAO!

    What the hell did he learn? To not have command of your pitches and throw the ball every where but over the plate?

  237. Tyler October 6th, 2010 at 7:52 pm

    the Yanks tried for Doc. The Jays just weren’t trading him within the division. Drabek has a very bright future but Montero looks like an absolute cornerstone of a team…

  238. SJ44 October 6th, 2010 at 7:52 pm

    Betsy,

    It’s only the second no hitter in the post-season in baseball history.

    One walk and that’s it.

    He and Don Larsen are going to be in the same sentence because they are the only two guys to do it.

  239. Betsy October 6th, 2010 at 7:52 pm

    I’m very happy for Doc, but TBS is trying unnecessarily hard to make this historical. We know it’s an historic game, but you do NOT call a perfect game a no-hitter. It’s wrong.

  240. Cashmoney October 6th, 2010 at 7:53 pm

    Is Ken Rosenthal Gay or just Metro?

  241. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 6th, 2010 at 7:53 pm

    “I’m sorry but that was just embarrassing for the Reds.

    Grats to Roy.”

    Not to be forgotten though is that the Phils didn’t get a runner on base after the third inning and only got one hit off Travis Wood. They had 5 hits in the entire game, 4 against Volquez.

  242. Laura - I Bleed Blue October 6th, 2010 at 7:53 pm

    “The Reds are the best hitting team in the NL if I am not mistaken.”

    I’m curious. How do they stack up against the best hitting team in the AL?

  243. Betsy October 6th, 2010 at 7:54 pm

    SJ, Larsen pitched a perfect game and a PG is different than a no-hitter……and to call the PG a no-hitter is to diminish the feat

  244. Doreen October 6th, 2010 at 7:54 pm

    Betsy -

    I see you picked up on that, too. I mean, the guy was tripping over his words to NOT say Larsen had a perfect game.

  245. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 6th, 2010 at 7:54 pm

    Betsy I’m with you and I guarantee you that when the dust settles, the distinction will be made. One is a no hitter in the first game of the first series of the postseason. The other is a perfect game in the World Series.

  246. BronxBorn October 6th, 2010 at 7:55 pm

    Doc was masterful – total control of the game. What a pleasure to watch.

  247. JetergroundsintoanotherDP October 6th, 2010 at 7:55 pm

    “Maybe, but how many DPs will Jeter ground into?”

    only one, but it will end a possible rally.

  248. Carl October 6th, 2010 at 7:55 pm

    # SJ44 October 6th, 2010 at 7:52 pm

    Betsy,

    It’s only the second no hitter in the post-season in baseball history.

    One walk and that’s it.

    He and Don Larsen are going to be in the same sentence because they are the only two guys to do it.

    Can’t compare a no hitter to a perfect game when one was in the world series. Not taking anything away from Roy.

  249. Betsy October 6th, 2010 at 7:55 pm

    And to make it clear, I’m in awe of Doc – he defies logic and is the best pitcher, bar none, in baseball.

  250. Tyler October 6th, 2010 at 7:55 pm

    Laura-

    They obviously don’t stack up to the best hitting team in the AL but the Reds still are a pretty good hitting club. Votto wil be the NL MVP, Rolen is a tough out, Bruce has been really hot, Phillips is one of the better hitting 2B around… They aren’t that bad.

  251. CR9 October 6th, 2010 at 7:55 pm

    “How can you not be happy for Halladay? As a baseball fan, how can you not appreciate this game?

    That being said, it’s laughable how they’re avoiding calling Don Larsen’s perfect game a perfect game, calling it a no-hitter. Laughable.”

    Doreen, your second paragraph explains my rationale about the questions in your first paragraph.

    Now, Larsen will have his perfect game undermined. :(

    But ya know what, none of that matters now. The only thing that does matter is 28!

  252. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 6th, 2010 at 7:55 pm

    “I see you picked up on that, too. I mean, the guy was tripping over his words to NOT say Larsen had a perfect game.”

    Doreen I noticed that too. He started to say it but caught himself.

  253. DocTodd October 6th, 2010 at 7:55 pm

    AJ learned that he’ll never be confused with Roy

  254. Doreen October 6th, 2010 at 7:55 pm

    And what is wrong with saying the best performance since Don Larsen’s perfect game? How does that diminish what Halladay just did?

    Eh.

    Whatever.

    :)

  255. Carl October 6th, 2010 at 7:56 pm

    # Cashmoney October 6th, 2010 at 7:53 pm

    Is Ken Rosenthal Gay or just Metro?

    No idea. He has kids though. Could be on the DL. Who cares though lol.

  256. Cashmoney October 6th, 2010 at 7:56 pm

    I’m curious. How do they stack up against the best hitting team in the AL?
    —————————————————-
    they trail the best scoring team (Yankees) by 69 runs , that’s minus the DH obviously.

  257. Betsy October 6th, 2010 at 7:56 pm

    Doreen, I was furious with that. This has nothing to do with Doc, but give me a break. TBS has no clue as to baseball history. They want to do that with Larsen? Then tell me that Doc only pitched a no-hitter earlier in the season. It’s not the truth.

  258. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 6th, 2010 at 7:56 pm

    “Can’t compare a no hitter to a perfect game when one was in the world series. Not taking anything away from Roy.”

    Yep.

  259. jacksquat October 6th, 2010 at 7:56 pm

    Looks like Roy Halladay is ready for the postseason. 8O

  260. Faiaz October 6th, 2010 at 7:56 pm

    cash,
    he might be metro with gay tendencies… not that there’s anything wrong with that.

  261. Jason Voorhees October 6th, 2010 at 7:57 pm

    Halladay also drove in a run. He is incredible.

  262. Cashmoney October 6th, 2010 at 7:57 pm

    Carl, Just curious, He is very flamboyant … don’t matter though.

  263. m October 6th, 2010 at 7:57 pm

    They need to make the distinction between Larsen and Halladay IMO.

  264. Faiaz October 6th, 2010 at 7:57 pm

    doctodd,
    lolololol

  265. Jason Voorhees October 6th, 2010 at 7:57 pm

    Overthinking. You’re all doing it.

  266. GreenBeret7 October 6th, 2010 at 7:57 pm

    This performance reminds me a lot like Jim Lonborg’s game #2 one hitter against the ’67 Cards in the WS. A 2 out double by Javier.

  267. blake October 6th, 2010 at 7:58 pm

    lol, Charlie Manuel just said he did some “good managing” tonight.

  268. Betsy October 6th, 2010 at 7:58 pm

    It’s true Larsen’s was in the WS, but that wasn’t my point. There is a distinction to be made between a PG and a no-hitter. All PGs are no-hitters, but not all no-hitters are PGs

  269. Laura - I Bleed Blue October 6th, 2010 at 7:58 pm

    “They obviously don’t stack up to the best hitting team in the AL but the Reds still are a pretty good hitting club. Votto wil be the NL MVP, Rolen is a tough out, Bruce has been really hot, Phillips is one of the better hitting 2B around… They aren’t that bad.”

    I’m not saying that they are bums, but I do think that you have to take things into context.

  270. Tyler October 6th, 2010 at 7:58 pm

    Great, great, historic performance. But a perfect game > no hitter .

  271. YanksfaninPA October 6th, 2010 at 7:59 pm

    JetergroundsintoanotherDP-
    loving your cheering for the twins…should make for some excitement, especially when you eat your words after a 7 or 8 inning shutout by CC!

  272. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 6th, 2010 at 7:59 pm

    Fran – I have to get mine cooked. But it doesn’t matter when we eat them, as long as it’s before the game is over.

    Enjoy the game all! I’m heading to greener pastures, where it’s safe to enjoy the game without having to hear how one hit dooms the Yankees to hell!!!

    GO YANKEES!!!!

    I’m calling it now. We’ve got this game wrapped. And I really like Minny and Gardy. But I need to root for the champs. DA YANKS.

  273. MTU October 6th, 2010 at 7:59 pm

    Roy Halladay is like Greg Maddux on steroids.

    All the great command.

    All the great movement.

    All the great assortment.

    And even better velocity.

    And. He’s a great guy to boot.

    I couldn’t possibly be any happier for him.

  274. blake October 6th, 2010 at 7:59 pm

    I don’t think anyone would argue that this tops what Larsen did…but its the 2nd best performance in postseason history and that’s pretty darn good.

  275. beedogs October 6th, 2010 at 7:59 pm

    for god’s sake, are you people really getting pissy because they didn’t bring up Larsen in front of a guy who just threw the second no-hit game in postseason history? FFS… get over it.

  276. CR9 October 6th, 2010 at 8:00 pm

    LOL @ the TBS graphic! It was titled No Hitters, LMAO!!!!!!! Grand stuff!

  277. Cashmoney October 6th, 2010 at 8:00 pm

    Laura, The reds trails the best scoring team (Yankees) by 69 runs , that’s minus the DH obviously.

  278. Faiaz October 6th, 2010 at 8:00 pm

    Didn’t we spend enough time on what happened with another team? Doc pitched a no-hitter. Congratulations… our game is 35 mins away so lets get things back in perspective ;)

  279. JetergroundsintoanotherDP October 6th, 2010 at 8:01 pm

    “loving your cheering for the twins…should make for some excitement, especially when you eat your words after a 7 or 8 inning shutout by CC!”

    that’s the kind of performance Sabathia would need to live up to Lee and Halladay. but he won’t come close to it.

    6 innings and 3-4 runs. a so-so outing from a so-so “ace”.

  280. Tyler October 6th, 2010 at 8:02 pm

    blake-

    Manuel is hilarious. I loved that he couldn’t pronounce the names of 2/3 of his starting all-star lineup when he announced it at his press conference

  281. Betsy October 6th, 2010 at 8:02 pm

    Right, because that’s what we’re arguing – get over yourself.

    They brought up Larsen, but you’d have KNOWN that had you read any of the posts. You can’t figure out the difference between a no-hitter and a PG?

  282. Carlo October 6th, 2010 at 8:02 pm

    Joe buck is absolutely on the DL. He has the wife and kids beard going for him as well. I digress though. The playoffs are upon us friends. Its time. Let us begin our quest. God bless us.

  283. West Coast Yankee Fan October 6th, 2010 at 8:02 pm

    I didn’t sense that they were “comparing” a no-hitter to a perfect game. They said Halladay pitched a no-hitter. They mentioned Larsen’s perfect game.

  284. Cashman needs to go October 6th, 2010 at 8:02 pm

    looks like halladay was right when he said – “it’s only gonna get funner”…but how do you top a no hitter?

    btw – if only montero WAS offered for halladay it obviously wasn’t enough since philadelphia gave up drabek one of their top OF’s and a 3rd player i believe…

  285. 4time October 6th, 2010 at 8:02 pm

    To be fair, Doc was squeezed on that 3-2 call to even allow the walk to Bruce

    So I can see why TBS awarded him with a perfect game, it should have been one.

    It’s all semantics though, isn’t it?

  286. Tyler October 6th, 2010 at 8:02 pm

    One question:

    How many rings does Cliff Lee have? And how many rings does Roy Halladay have?

    And how many does the “so-so” ace of the Yankees have?

  287. Bob C October 6th, 2010 at 8:03 pm

    Listen to John and Suzan live on the internet. http://radiotime.com/station/s.....s_640.aspx

  288. CR9 October 6th, 2010 at 8:03 pm

    “Didn’t we spend enough time on what happened with another team? Doc pitched a no-hitter. Congratulations… our game is 35 mins away so lets get things back in perspective”

    Yes, Please. Pretty pretty please!

  289. Faiaz October 6th, 2010 at 8:03 pm

    How Gardenhire praises the Yankees almost makes me want for the Twins to be in the NL so I can root for them.

  290. blake October 6th, 2010 at 8:03 pm

    Tyler,

    I know, he’s really funny. I can’t stand the Phillies but I like him.

  291. Faiaz October 6th, 2010 at 8:03 pm

    tyler…
    I think that’s checkmate

  292. Doreen October 6th, 2010 at 8:03 pm

    beedogs -

    But they DID bring up Larsen, that’s the point. And they called Larsen’s perfect game a no-hitter. I’m sorry, that’s just wrong.

  293. CR9 October 6th, 2010 at 8:04 pm

    “How many rings does Cliff Lee have? And how many rings does Roy Halladay have?

    And how many does the “so-so” ace of the Yankees have?”

    Hear, hear!

  294. West Coast Yankee Fan October 6th, 2010 at 8:04 pm

    Beedogs please don’t try to interject logic and common sense into the dialogue lol. Thanks.

  295. 4time October 6th, 2010 at 8:04 pm

    jetergroundsintodp,

    Well, we’re going to have Lee next year anyway. Then we can argue about who pitches in game 2 (please folks, don’t tell me about how Texas will outbid us, SJ explained the reality of it).

  296. Betsy October 6th, 2010 at 8:04 pm

    West Coast, they said Larsen pitched a no-hitter. No, he didn’t – he pitched a perfect game

  297. m October 6th, 2010 at 8:05 pm

    They’re classifying Larsen’s game as a no-hitter. That’s like saying a square is a rectangle. One is more perfect than the other!

  298. Betsy October 6th, 2010 at 8:05 pm

    Um, how is that logic? WC, if you don’t care if TBS gets it historically correct, that’s fine, but it’s important to me and I suspect to a lot of people. TBS is wrong and it’s not fair to Larsen

  299. Faiaz October 6th, 2010 at 8:06 pm

    All i will say is that maybe on the stats point of view… a perfect game is a variation of a no-hitter? An uber no-hitter. Maybe that is their excuse for comparing it to Larsen.

  300. Ruby Tuesday October 6th, 2010 at 8:06 pm

    Waaaaaaaah. Another no-hitter in the 2010 season. What a surprise. Lol.

    No doubt we will see at least four or five more of these before the season is completely over.

  301. Red Lobster October 6th, 2010 at 8:06 pm

    “How many rings does Cliff Lee have? And how many rings does Roy Halladay have?

    And how many does the “so-so” ace of the Yankees have?”

    The same number as Teddy Losegame and Alcatraz Yass

    :D

    Anyway, anyone devaluing CC isn’t a Yankee fan.

  302. Betsy October 6th, 2010 at 8:06 pm

    Tyler, don’t take this the wrong way, but that’s not a good argument to make; it’s not Doc or Lee’s fault they don’t have rings. There are plenty of performance arguments to make on CC’s behalf…….but I wouldn’t even bother because the guy is a stooge.

  303. Doreen October 6th, 2010 at 8:07 pm

    No, it’s not semantics. A perfect games means no one reached base. In this case, Halladay allowed one walk (umpired assisted or not). He was not perfect. Very, very, very, very close. But not.

    But all this does is to take away from just congratulating a guy for an amazing game. It was an incredible performance. He was absolutely dominating. The Reds looked foolish. Halladay looked cool, calm and collected.

  304. JetergroundsintoanotherDP October 6th, 2010 at 8:07 pm

    so because Sabathia pitched for a better team than Lee or Halladay (until this year), that makes him a better pitcher?

    OK, if you say so. It’s going to be an interesting evening comparing and contrasting the three performances.

  305. Tyler October 6th, 2010 at 8:08 pm

    Has anybody seen alot of Liriano this year? I don’t think I’ve seen him pitch this year… Does his stuff resemble at all what he had his rookie year when he was electric? I feel like he’s being vastly underrated…

  306. CR9 October 6th, 2010 at 8:08 pm

    I love you Red Lobster! Will you marry me?! ;)

  307. Red Lobster October 6th, 2010 at 8:08 pm

    faiaz,

    Exactly. A perfect game IS a variation of a no-hitter. Some people use the term interchangeably and place more importance on the HITS rather than not allowing anyone on base.

  308. Bronx Jeers October 6th, 2010 at 8:08 pm

    And Don Larsen will be honored to be mentioned with Roy Halladay. :wink:

    Doc’s a Hall of Famer. Larsen was a journeyman.

  309. Cashmoney October 6th, 2010 at 8:08 pm

    Betsy , calm down. a perfect game is a no hitter. That is factually correct, they just forget to mention Larsen’s no hitter was a perfect game.

    which is not kosher.

  310. Betsy October 6th, 2010 at 8:08 pm

    No it won’t be an interesting evening because you don’t determine who’s better or who you’d rather have off of 1 outing………..well, maybe you do, lol

  311. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 6th, 2010 at 8:08 pm

    “It’s all semantics though, isn’t it?”

    Uh, no.

  312. MTU October 6th, 2010 at 8:09 pm

    Can’t see why anyone would want to try to diminish what Halladay did today.

    It was a remarkable and historic accomplishment.

    It stands on it’s own merit and is independent of the team it was done for.

    CC doesn’t have to try to match Lee or Doc.

    All he has to do is be better than Liriano.

    Best of luck CC. You’re our ace.

  313. West Coast Yankee Fan October 6th, 2010 at 8:09 pm

    Betsy – They said Halladay pitched the second no-hitter in post-season history; the second one since Don Larsen did so. That’s true. It was also mentioned that Larsen pitched a perfect game. Everyone knows that. It was in the heat of a very exciting moment and announcers are not robots it was not an intentional slight, come on now. Really.

  314. Tyler October 6th, 2010 at 8:09 pm

    Betsy-

    Playoff series Sabathia is head and shoulders about Lee regardless of tonight’s results. Give me a guy who can pitch 3 times in a series over 2 anyday. Now Halladay probably is better than CC at this point in any circumstance. But Lee isn’t in the same class as CC imo.

  315. Betsy October 6th, 2010 at 8:09 pm

    Cashman, no thanks – I don’t need to calm down. A perfect game is a perfect game and calling it anything but is wrong.

  316. Carl October 6th, 2010 at 8:10 pm

    Mitch Williams is so damn annoying though.

  317. Betsy October 6th, 2010 at 8:10 pm

    Bronx Jeers, what does that have to do with anything? Larsen still did it……….no one said he was a HOFer

  318. Jason Voorhees October 6th, 2010 at 8:10 pm

    a.) They distinguished that Larsen had a perfect game.

    b.) A perfect game is technically a no-hitter.

    c.) They are saying it’s the second no-hitter in Post season history. Which it is. No one else has thrown a no-hitter OR a perfect game since Larsen. TBS isn’t wrong. They just aren’t making a big deal about what happened in the 50′s when something newsworthy just occurred minutes ago. Just about everyone knows about the Larson game anyway since it’s a typical trivia question. Everyone is just overreacting. Which I guess is typical since a Yankee player is involved.

  319. clownthrowindown October 6th, 2010 at 8:10 pm

    Maybe instead of celebrating a historic moment, TBS should have cut to a special about Larsen so all the arrogant and/or insecure Yankee fans would be happy.

  320. Red Lobster October 6th, 2010 at 8:10 pm

    CR9,

    hahahahahaha

    But then what do I do when you break the door after a loss against the Twins? :o

  321. Betsy October 6th, 2010 at 8:11 pm

    Tyler, I agree…….I just meant that there were plenty of points in CC’s favor that he stacks up with the best in the game without mentioning rings.

  322. hman23 October 6th, 2010 at 8:12 pm

    Please get over it. Guy throws a no-hitter in a playoff game. But it’s somehow not “historical” because one other person threw a perfect game?

    It’s the playoffs. Halladay did something that nobody else has done in over 100 years except one guy who did him one walk better.

    I’d say its a pretty big friggin’ deal and who cares if the announcers went nuts. What would you really expect? If Gus Johnson called the game, they would have needed an oxygen tank and he would have blown your surround sound to bits.

    It’s sports. Its ok to get excited when someone delivers an individual performance like this — no matter who he plays for.

  323. Fran the original October 6th, 2010 at 8:12 pm

    Listen to John and Suzan live on the internet
    *********************************
    Thanks for the link Bob. I might turn down the sound on TBS and listen to John and Suzyn although I’m not sure if there is a delay.

  324. Tyler October 6th, 2010 at 8:12 pm

    I think the World Series ring argument is perfectly suitable for this conversation. If Lee could have gone 3 times against the Yanks maybe the Phils can pull it out. And Halladay while absolutely fantastic hasn’t pitched in the WS yet so that’s still up for debate.

  325. trisha - true pinstriped blue October 6th, 2010 at 8:13 pm

    “Maybe instead of celebrating a historic moment, TBS should have cut to a special about Larsen so all the arrogant and/or insecure Yankee fans would be happy.”

    NOW you’re cooking with gas! :D That’s exactly what should have happened.

    Again, when the dust settles nobody is going to compare a no hitter in a division series game to a perfect game in the world series. Be serious here. It’s fine for now. He did something very good.

    We know Larsen has it wrapped. All is good.

  326. West Coast Yankee Fan October 6th, 2010 at 8:13 pm

    TBS has mentioned Larsen’s perfect game about 5-6 times by my count. They have even shown footage of it. This is a red herring.

  327. CR9 October 6th, 2010 at 8:13 pm

    Red Lobster – LMAO! You could do what my ex did…rip the shirt off my back as I storm out of the house! :)

  328. Betsy October 6th, 2010 at 8:13 pm

    Either way, Tyler, we can agree that the guy is loopy

  329. Yank 97 October 6th, 2010 at 8:13 pm

    Why do people want to devalue Halladay just because of a mistake by TBS?

    First off, who cares? He does deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Larsen because both of them allowed no-hits in a playoff game. Perfect game, no-hitter, one is obviously more prestigious, but they are basically the same achievement and are treated the same by the public.

    Secondly, the Reds had no chance tonight. That was one of the best pitching performances ever. Enjoy what you just witnessed.

  330. Faiaz October 6th, 2010 at 8:13 pm

    JetergroundsintoanotherDP October 6th, 2010 at 8:07 pm

    so because Sabathia pitched for a better team than Lee or Halladay (until this year), that makes him a better pitcher?

    No. The fact that C.C. lost 7 games in the AL and Doc lost 10 in the weaker NL makes C.C. the better pitcher statistically this year.

  331. Doreen October 6th, 2010 at 8:14 pm

    I didn’t hear the words “perfect game” mentioned at all in the interview with Halladay. And all they had to say was first no-hitter since Don Larsen’s perfect game. That’s it. And they didn’t. Instead they tripped and stumbled to avoid making the distinction. Which was silly anyway.

  332. Laura - I Bleed Blue October 6th, 2010 at 8:14 pm

    Anyone who says that CC isn’t the Ace of this staff isn’t a real Yankee fan. Either that or they don’t follow the team closely. All you have to do is look at CC’s last start. It came after one of the many AJ disasters that we were subjected to this season. We needed CC to get us the win and give us length. And he did just that. That’s what an Ace is. That’s what an Ace does. The ace of your staff gets you the win when you desperately need it. That’s CC. And anyone who says otherwise should go root for another team.

  333. Doreen October 6th, 2010 at 8:14 pm

    And it’s possible not everyone knows about Don Larsen. Young people for instance.

  334. Tyler October 6th, 2010 at 8:15 pm

    Betsy October 6th, 2010 at 8:13 pm
    Either way, Tyler, we can agree that the guy is loopy
    ——————

    Eh, he’s just trolling. He will talk endless trash if the Yanks get behind and if they pull ahead he will just conveniently log off the blog..

  335. Bronx Jeers October 6th, 2010 at 8:15 pm

    Don’t jump down my throat just yet Betsy.

    We still have a solid month of tension to go. (Hopefully)

  336. Carlo October 6th, 2010 at 8:15 pm

    we play in 23 minutes. Its the biggest game of the year. Focus on that. Not some perceived tbs slight on a guy no more than 1 of the people on this board ever saw pitch. Biggest game of the year tonight. Get your heads in the game.

  337. Faiaz October 6th, 2010 at 8:16 pm

    The more responses a troll gets the more he/she will continue so I think you all know what to do

  338. JetergroundsintoanotherDP October 6th, 2010 at 8:16 pm

    “We needed CC to get us the win and give us length. And he did just that. That’s what an Ace is. That’s what an Ace does. The ace of your staff gets you the win when you desperately need it”

    Well, tonight certainly is a more desperate situation than the Toronto game, so let’s see just how clutch he is, lol.

  339. Betsy October 6th, 2010 at 8:17 pm

    I’m not, Bronx Jeers, I was just asking what that had to do with anything? I’m sorry if you took it the wrong way – when I typed that, I was not annoyed at all.

  340. Carl October 6th, 2010 at 8:17 pm

    Just give credit where credit is due. It’s not hard.

    Larsen threw a perfect game against the Brooklyn Dodgers.

    Halladay threw a no-hitter against the Reds.

    Both great accomplishments.

    Don’t short change Larsen because he isn’t half the pitcher Doc is.

  341. West Coast Yankee Fan October 6th, 2010 at 8:18 pm

    Doreen
    October 6th, 2010 at 8:14 pm

    I didn’t hear the words “perfect game” mentioned at all in the interview with Halladay. And all they had to say was first no-hitter since Don Larsen’s perfect game. That’s it. And they didn’t. Instead they tripped and stumbled to avoid making the distinction. Which was silly anyway.

    ***********************
    Again! I just reviewed the Tivo, TBS has mentioned Don Larsen’s perfect game numerous times and has even showed footage of it. They could not have been clear about it. You are going to insist upon a certain script from a reporter on the field in the heat of the moment after just witnessing what was one of the greatest performances in major league history? Are you serious?

  342. Doreen October 6th, 2010 at 8:19 pm

    I tuned out after Halladay’s interview, so if they showed footage of Larsen, maybe it was after that?

    I don’t think anyone here is undervaluing what Halladay did today; just a little ticked by that reporter after the game who interviewed him.

  343. MTU October 6th, 2010 at 8:20 pm

    Catch you all later.

    Hope CC twirls a gem but all that matters is that we get a W.

  344. JM October 6th, 2010 at 8:20 pm

    Truly masterful performance by Doc. Hats off to him. Just amazing.

    By the way, have I mentioned that my grandfather was in attendance when Don Larsen pitched his perfect game? I have the framed ticket stubs and scorecard in my house.

  345. Faiaz October 6th, 2010 at 8:22 pm

    ^^ envious of JM :(

  346. West Coast Yankee Fan October 6th, 2010 at 8:22 pm

    With all due respect Doreen it’s not easy doing spontaneous interviews under those circumstances, I don’t know how you can hold the reporter to account for not saying the exact words you wanted him to. The moment was about Halladay not Larsen.

  347. Cashman needs to go October 6th, 2010 at 8:22 pm

    Tyler October 6th, 2010 at 8:12 pm
    I think the World Series ring argument is perfectly suitable for this conversation. If Lee could have gone 3 times against the Yanks maybe the Phils can pull it out. And Halladay while absolutely fantastic hasn?t pitched in the WS yet so that?s still up for debate.
    ***********

    i’m as big a sabathia fan as there is but cliff lee pitched 2 games in the WS last year and won both – what more could he possibly have done – cc pitched 2 games and was 0-1…..so the argument that cc is better because he has a ring is technically wrong as lee did what he had to do..as for halladay people were saying that he’s never pitched in the postseason so lets wait until he does to judge him…well i think he’s put that argument to rest – didn’t the reds score he most runs in the NL this year?

    again i love CC – but ask 20 “baseball people” (ie not yankee fans on this blog)to rank whom they would want to pitch in a game 7 of the WS between cc, halladay and lee and i would think more would pick lee or halladay over cc…

  348. Yank1 October 6th, 2010 at 8:22 pm

    Deciding who is better among CC, Halladay, and Lee is totally subjective and depends on criteria.

    Even if you rank CC 3rd among them, it is hardly a slight on him, and it would be a 1A, 1B, 1C type thing.

  349. West Coast Yankee Fan October 6th, 2010 at 8:23 pm

    Let’s go Yankees!!!!!! Play up to your potential please!!!!!!

  350. MTU October 6th, 2010 at 8:23 pm

    JM-

    That’s fantastic. I saw Jim Bunning’s PG at Shea.

    No memorabilia other than the memory that I was there.

  351. RMS October 6th, 2010 at 8:25 pm

    Congrats to Halladay. A great performance.

    ————————————————————-

    I’m feeling Alex is going to have a monster game tonight.
    Yankees win!

  352. Doreen October 6th, 2010 at 8:26 pm

    WCYF -

    For me, only speaking for me, and what I saw and heard during the interview, was a reporter who was seemingly stumbling over his words to avoid saying Larsen had a perfect game because of how he was constructing the interview. I thought it was silly to do that. I don’t think Halladay would have been offended if the guy mentioned it. And yes, I expect a reporter, even in the heat of the moment, to have his facts. Especially since he hesitated – it was an intentional mushing of the difference between the two games.

    And the first thing I, personally, said here was congratulatory to Halladay, saying it was an amazing performance. I commented a couple of times how he was making the Reds look stupid.

    I wasn’t listening for someone to trip up like that. But it was weird to me.

    Halladay was amazing today. But sometimes reporters are just weird in their interviews. They just are.

  353. Don October 6th, 2010 at 8:26 pm

    Doc was great today, let’s hope CC will be just as great.

  354. syd_cash October 6th, 2010 at 8:27 pm

    this jennings article was pretty good.

    Go Yanks

  355. JM October 6th, 2010 at 8:27 pm

    Yeah, listening to my grandfather talk about that game was one of my fondest memories growing up. He would get like a little kid again, all excited.

  356. Bronx Jeers October 6th, 2010 at 8:27 pm

    Someone said Halladay will be honored to be mentioned with Don Larsen.

    I suggested that Larsen would be happy to be mentioned with Halladay.

    Because Halladay is a really good pitcher. Kind of a “likewise” if you will.

    I even included a winky thing.

  357. Ken Phelps October 6th, 2010 at 8:28 pm

    are people really complaining that tbs is not doing enough to celebrate don larsen’s perfect game that was pitched over 50 years ago? What larsen did was amazing but today is doc holliday’s day. That was a majestic performance by doc..

  358. Tyler October 6th, 2010 at 8:28 pm

    Cashman-

    I don’t mean to take anything away from Halladay or Lee. I was just making a point of showing that CC isn’t a “so-so” ace. IMO, Halladay is the best in the game. In a playoff series I’m taking CC because he can pitch more times than Lee but both are fantastic.

    My point wasn’t to discount Halladay or Lee. It was to show how ridiculous calling CC a “so-so” ace is. He’s right up there in the other 2′s class.

  359. syd_cash October 6th, 2010 at 8:28 pm

    welp all the big guns did their thing today so far so hopefully CC will follow suite. (minus Price that is)

  360. Ken Phelps October 6th, 2010 at 8:29 pm

    Halladay is the best pitcher in baseball..but who cares? Lets win tonight

  361. Doreen October 6th, 2010 at 8:29 pm

    WCYF -

    Yes, it was about Halladay, not about Larsen. You’re missing my point. The reporter knew the difference and chose to blur the lines. It wasn’t heat of the moment. That’s what it looked like to me.

    And now I’m done wth this.

    Enjoy the game.

    Go Yankees.

  362. Ken Phelps October 6th, 2010 at 8:31 pm

    who called CC a so-called ace?? If it wasnt for CC the yankees would not be in the playoffs…He is an ace…this year he pitched the yankees to the postseason..without him they would not even been close to the postseason…if someone does not think he is an ace…then they dont know baseball

  363. MG October 6th, 2010 at 8:31 pm

    Don Larsen pitched his perfect game 54 years ago (I was in the 3rd grade and missed the game because it started at 1PM and was over about 3:05) and has had this all to himself for that many years. Halladay was as dominating as I have ever seen someone on the mound tonight, I didn’t see anything in the last 4 innings that even had a chance to be a hit. Why get upset because Larsen wasn’t mentioned as often as you would like and what difference does it make anyway?

  364. MG October 6th, 2010 at 8:33 pm

    CC pitched great last year in the postseason, didn’t he come up big in both the ALDS and the ALCS and just get outpitched in game 1 of the WS by Cliff Lee? Aces don’t win every game, that has never happened in baseball-even Sandy Koufax lost games in the postseason, see the 1966 WS.

  365. RMS October 6th, 2010 at 8:34 pm

    How many no hitters have there been in the postseason?

    2

    1956- Don Larsen
    2010- Doc Halladay

  366. GreenBeret7 October 6th, 2010 at 8:35 pm

    The difference between Larsen’s WS perfect game and Halladay’s no hitter today is the same difference between Bill Mazaroski’s G#7 walk off WS homer and Joe Carter’s G#6 walk off homer. Specical, exciting, but, not quite the same thing.

  367. West Coast Yankee Fan October 6th, 2010 at 8:35 pm

    Doreen, I understand you saw it that way and thought it was intentional. Not earth shattering either way – GO YANKS!!!!

  368. RMS October 6th, 2010 at 8:35 pm

    Postseason perfect games?
    1

    1956- Larsen

  369. BIG AL October 6th, 2010 at 8:36 pm

    Not to take anything away from what Doc did today, but, the media is looking for a story line when they attempt to lump him in with Don Larson.

    Don Larson pitched a Perfect Game, in the World Series, against a very tough Dodgers team.

    To me, that’s a huge difference.

    Still, a great performance today by Doc, but, Doc, I watched the Don Larson perfect game, and yours was not as good!

  370. Ruby Tuesday October 6th, 2010 at 8:51 pm

    There it is: the second no-hitter of the night belongs to Liriano .

    :(


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