The view from the other side
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Oct 06, 2010 
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Twins manager Ron Gardenhire: “You start trying to pitch around guys to get to another guy, you can get yourself in a lot of trouble. The more people you put on base with these hitters, the more runs you can give up. So it’s going to be entertaining working through their lineup. And hopefully, you know, keep the ball in the ballpark. That’s what they do. They can bang it out of the ballpark. A lot of great hitters. A lot of all-stars.”
Starting pitcher Francisco Liriano: “I know they have a good lineup, and I have to just go out there and try to do our best, you know, not try to do too much. Like I said before, it’s all about location. You go out there and pitch. You don’t even know what can happen. Anything can happen in baseball, so you just go out there and try to do your best.”
Catcher Joe Mauer: “I think it started real early in Spring Training. You know, I always say you look good on paper, but you still have to go out there and play the games. The things that we’ve overcome this year, you know, right at Spring Training, Joe Nathan going down, that was a big blow, but Jon Rauch held it down for quite some time. And acquiring guys like Matt Capps and Brian Fuentes definitely helped. And obviously Justin Morneau going down, you know, Cuddy (Michael Cuddyer) stepping in was huge. And it allows Jim Thome to get some more at-bats. We had to overcome a lot of adversity this year, and I think I am most proud of that.”
First baseman Michael Cuddyer: “The first couple of years (Sabathia) was 98, 99, with a devastating slider, but basically just went at you with 98 or 99. Still, unbelievable stuff. Still a great pitcher. But I think he is a better pitcher now. Obviously, one of the best pitchers in the game. Perennial Cy Young contender and possibly the Cy Young Award winner this year, and he knows what he’s doing this year. He knows where to pitch. He is more efficient with his pitches. He doesn’t care if he strikes you out as long as you get out. I think that’s the biggest difference between him him back in ’01 and ’02 compared to the way he is now.”
That’s a rather awesome picture of Target Field during the Twins home opener this season
trisha – true pinstriped blue
October 6th, 2010 at 11:23 am
And when you say he is a great guy do you mean steroid wise or personality wise? This is the guy who said he should have gotten MVP over Jeter and who uses every F-bomb in the world when talking to reporters, and complains bitterly about everything. Our definitions of great are definitely our of synch. I also think you living far away from the reality of this jerk and me living within 50 miles of it has to make a difference.
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I hardly think any Yankee fan should be mentioning steroids. So what if he thought he should get the MVP over Jeter, good for him, why wouldn’t you want any pro-athlete not to be proud, confident and competitive.
As to using the f-word. Pro-athletes? You are kidding right?
So you living on the East Coast makes you more knowledgeable about David Ortiz? Really?
0 Days, 8 Hours, and 44 Minutes until Game 1
Is Target Field as large as our stadium?
Trisha:
Texas vs. TB: Texas in 5
Cinci vs. Philly: Philly in 3
NYY vs Minny: NYY in 4
ATL vs SF: SF in 4
“The view from the other side”.
Did somebody die ?
Trisha, here are my predictions
Yankees in 4
Texas in 4
Philly in 3
ATL in 5
5-3 Reds over the Phillies in game 1!
I think the capacity of Target Field is about 39,000, but they do sell standing room tickets, which means they can fit about 41,000 in there.
Anyone knows whether Fuentes or Capps is MN’s de facto closer?
I also think you living far away from the reality of this jerk and me living within 50 miles of it has to make a difference.
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Hey, I’m sure that more than a few of us lived a few miles from the Son Of Sam but that doesn’t necessarily make us dog haters.
Capps closes, Fuentes has been a lefty specialist since he was traded to the Twins.
Trisha,
Don’t know if you got mine aleeady but..
Yanks in 4
Rangers in 5
Phillies in 4
Giants in 5 (though this pick is meant to help the Braves through the opposite effect)
G. Love October 6th, 2010 at 11:32 am
Can?t believe we?re actually debating Royce Ring in here this morning. Ridiculous.
Didn?t Ortiz hit a HR off of him last week or something? He was barely on the team this year.
His ?former 1st round pick? status is more of an indictment than a plus at this point.
You read these posts where people are pushing these kind of ridiculous agendas and you start to wonder if they have OCD or something.
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LOL, don?t let logic and facts get in your way?I guess much like SJ
and no, he didn?t allow a HR to Ortiz and if you think having a 2nd lefty in the pen is ridiculous than that speaks volumes?
Cashmoney -
I think they have about an equal number of saves, but for some reason I think I read Capps right now is their de facto closer. I sure could be wrong about that though.
blake October 6th, 2010 at 11:37 am
Genious Maker,
I don?t blindly trust anything and whether he pitched in 2008 or 2007 that doesn?t change the fact that he didn?t prove that he was any good when he was given the chance.
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Blake so you will take the 8 AB?s or 2 innings as proof? WOW, I guess you don?t take any relevance to the 130 AB?s in the previous years? Or that he pitched very well this year in the minors?but those 8 AB?s is what we will make our decision on? OK, but some of the same people stated that ARod was a choker because of a 32 AB stretch and I was on the this same board arguing with everybody about how idiotic it was. In fact, only Rich in NJ agreed with me. Then lo and behold ARod got his postseason OPS above his regular season OPS.
Now Ring does not have near the track record of ARod and I am not even saying that Ring is a very good left handed specialist, but what I am saying is that he should do better against Thome than more of our righties and he is clearly more valuable to have on the team than Moseley who will never be used unless the game is out of hand.
# Bronx Jeers October 6th, 2010 at 11:56 am
I also think you living far away from the reality of this jerk and me living within 50 miles of it has to make a difference.
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Hey, I’m sure that more than a few of us lived a few miles from the Son Of Sam but that doesn’t necessarily make us dog haters.
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Brilliant!
A second lefty in the pen does nothing for you if he isn’t any good.
They have three guys in the pen beside Mariano, Logan, Wood, and Robertson, who have been effective against lefties this year.
All of whom are better pitchers than Royce Ring.
Whether or not they win this series isn’t going to come down to whether or not Ring is on the roster.
You wildly overestimate his skillset.
“I hardly think any Yankee fan should be mentioning steroids. So what if he thought he should get the MVP over Jeter, good for him, why wouldn’t you want any pro-athlete not to be proud, confident and competitive.”
Seriously? Well friend I could throw up purple over Roger Clemens because he’s a liar. I guess you didn’t see the part about owning up to it.
You don’t mind cheaters who live about their cheating, apparently. I do. End of story.
“As to using the f-word. Pro-athletes? You are kidding right? ”
Yeah right because you read those stories every day. The Yankees ALWAYS use the F-bomb in anger when they talk to reporters. And complain every time they’re called out on strikes and walk away whining like two-year olds.
“So you living on the East Coast makes you more knowledgeable about David Ortiz? Really?”
A-parrently-LY. Not just on the east coast. In the back yard of fenway field. I gave you an out. Take it.
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I’ve read some of your posts and I’ve read some of the disagreement with your views and let’s leave it at this. I tend to be with the posters who definitely think you miss out on the big picture. Whether or not you do, we do not think alike. Not unusual on a blog where lots of people post. There are a cadre of posters here with whose thinking I am more in synch. No big deal.
“Brilliant!”
Fuentes has been dominant against lefties this year, but it was in the NL (mostly). he will be used against Cano/Granderson Gardner. He wasn’t as sharp in the AL for his career and we have hit him before…hopefully he remembers. Capps is a mediocre closer and I feel we could beat him in a close game. They also have some good righty arms…we just need to have our offense show up and CC do his thing for us to win the series. Nothing would surprise me though. Capps and Fuentes were good pickups, in fact, Fuentes was someone I wanted to go after. His OPS against lefties this year is under .400!!!
I also think you living far away from the reality of this jerk and me living within 50 miles of it has to make a difference.
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I heard Papi’s UZR in the erogenous zone is quite high as well ! He is regarded as a nimble bomb dropper and a love maker in certain arena of expertises. He also hits deep dingerz.
Maybe he is jerk by osmosis as he is a teammate of Beckett ?
Can’t wait to be in the House tonight. It’s going to be rocking that is for sure. The Locals here in Minnesota really believe that this is there chance. They are jacked. CC will be challenged to take them out of it early.
Capps is definitely their closer!
Broke my heart when he left my beloved Nats, but the guy can close.
G. Maker,
You know if you would be comfortable throwing a guy out there in a big playoff spot with an unimpressive 8 hitters faced at the big league level this year then I’m ok with that….just glad the Yankees disagree with you. I’m now moving on from Royce Ring.
Slowest day ever
Trisha – Oh you mean A-Rod and Andy until they got caught or thought they would? That makes it better?
I’ll leave it at this. Your narcissism and fantasy perspctive is mind boggling.
Go Yankees.
comet October 6th, 2010 at 11:36 am
Greetings from Arizona. Looking forward to my first trip to In and out Burgers! Yankees win tonight entitles me to a visit!
Hello to Upstate Kate, Erin, Erica and Erin.
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comet-I’m honored I get two hellos.
Hope everything’s good with you!
CountryClub October 6th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
Slowest day ever
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No kidding. I swear my clock has stopped moving. lol
Gmoney ! look , Ring is not on the playoff roster! Let go already… You make some sound arguments why he should be. It is definitely debatable . But let’s deal with the reality and what we have.
What we have is , the roster that we have, and a game in 10 hours ! Let’s move on !
Trisha – your snide obnoxious comment “I gave you an out take it” is indicative of the fantasy world you live in. You are just another blogger here, nothing more. You don’t tell others what to post. I hope that’s clear.
The Genius Maker October 6th, 2010 at 11:32 am
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Blake you shouldn’t blindly trust what SJ wrote as accurate because almost his entire post was wrong. He pitched in 2008 and 2007 so I guess he meant lefties who haven’t pitched in a year (even though he pitched all year in the minors). Also, I didn’t check this but someone posted that he has faced Thome 4 times and walked him twice and K’d him twice. if our righties did that, it would be a huge success
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you really have to be kidding about Royce Ring, right? This is a guy who pitched for Atlanta in 2008 with an ERA over 8, didn’t pitch at all in the majors in 2009, and who was awful in his September callup. He walks batters at an alarming rate and doesn’t have major league stuff. Other than that, he’s great. Nick Swisher throws lefty also and can play some outfield, pinch hit, and maybe get a lefty out, that’s a better choice than Ring.
Off to load up on grub and grape.
Oh no… not steroids. Please lets not do this to ourselves today.
Lets go a step further and not talk about teams not in the post season. And, if we’re really feeling up to the challenge, leave talks about possible off-season moves for later dates.
All of this crap is more irrelevant than the nonsensical discussion about Royce Ring securing us a World Series championship.
I think me and SAS are the only two who think the Reds will upset the Phillies, anyone else here who thinks the Reds has got a fighting chance?
SJ44 October 6th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
A second lefty in the pen does nothing for you if he isn?t any good.
They have three guys in the pen beside Mariano, Logan, Wood, and Robertson, who have been effective against lefties this year.
All of whom are better pitchers than Royce Ring.
Whether or not they win this series isn?t going to come down to whether or not Ring is on the roster.
You wildly overestimate his skillset.
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This is the type of drivel you throw out that is just nonsense and I am surprised nobody calls you on it?
Where have I wildly overestimated his skill set; I have taken his career 180 AB’s against lefties and used those exact numbers which are decent (not very good, just decent). however, those decent numbers are about the same as the righties against lefties so against a neutral lefty then Ring would be about the same as the righties against the lefty. However, when the lefty is Thome or a lefty who hits righties well or doesn;t hit lefties well then there is a big difference. Maybe you don’t see the logic of platooning, but it is clear and it is a huge part of the game.
Jeers-
“Hey, I’m sure that more than a few of us lived a few miles from the Son Of Sam but that doesn’t necessarily make us dog haters.”
Even if I did live near SOS I wouldn’t ever blame the dogs.
By the way, whatever it is you’ve got please don’t bogart it.
I want some.
Kerry Wood has faced Jim Thome 5 times in his career.
3 Strikeouts, 1 walk, one out in another fashion.
That ends this stupid argument about Royce Ring…
West Coast – I’ll leave it at this. For someone who tried to puppy dog his way into saying everyone should act respectful (mel called you out. Good call mel) you’ve certainly quickly reverted to “yourself”.
My narcissism and fantasy perspective?
You little twit, I eat things like you for breakfast. Let me say this. Apache and MG hit it right on the head with you, as did so many others. You are PATHETIC. Plus they called you a fraud and a lair. Who am I to say they’re wrong? You apparently don’t mind steroid cheaters who lie about it.
Bye now child. I have so many more important things to do than deal with people who are of the “surreal. just wow” genre.
You can stick your overwhelming stupidity where the sun don’t shine.
And now, you are officially on YAWN!!!!
Which means I don’t read any more of your moronic musings. Sorry to have to remove you from the predictions chart. You REALLY have to go a piece for me to do something like that. How’s THAT for “narcissism”?
Ciao fool.
Sure the Reds have a fighting chance. The Phillies aren’t as unbeatable as the media is making them out to be and anything can happen in a short series….they get a lead and those lefty Phillies hitters are gonna see some pretty un-Royce Ring like stuff coming out of that Cincy pen.
Michael Cuddyer is a good ballplayer but the Twins do miss Justin Morneau.
Unlike previous years, the Twins pretty much had their way with the Central Division this year.
The White Sox mounted a challenge in August then quickly faded. How battle tested the Twins are remains to be seen.
As always, Ron Gardenhire has a fundamentally sound team. There’s no room for mistakes with the Twins. They will capitalize.
MG October 6th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
The Genius Maker October 6th, 2010 at 11:32 am
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Blake you shouldn’t blindly trust what SJ wrote as accurate because almost his entire post was wrong. He pitched in 2008 and 2007 so I guess he meant lefties who haven’t pitched in a year (even though he pitched all year in the minors). Also, I didn’t check this but someone posted that he has faced Thome 4 times and walked him twice and K’d him twice. if our righties did that, it would be a huge success
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you really have to be kidding about Royce Ring, right? This is a guy who pitched for Atlanta in 2008 with an ERA over 8, didn’t pitch at all in the majors in 2009, and who was awful in his September callup. He walks batters at an alarming rate and doesn’t have major league stuff. Other than that, he’s great. Nick Swisher throws lefty also and can play some outfield, pinch hit, and maybe get a lefty out, that’s a better choice than Ring.
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I am done trying to share the light with people who refuse to see the obvious. I choose to look at the 138 pitching appearances he has had at the major league level against lefties and those show me that he is decent against lefties. If you choose to look at 2 innings of work than that speaks volumes about common sense.
Enjoy sticking your head in the sand folks.
“Trisha – your snide obnoxious comment “I gave you an out take it” is indicative of the fantasy world you live in. You are just another blogger here, nothing more. You don’t tell others what to post. I hope that’s clear.”
WAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And major league
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W
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The Genius Maker October 6th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
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I am done trying to share the light with people who refuse to see the obvious. I choose to look at the 138 pitching appearances he has had at the major league level against lefties and those show me that he is decent against lefties. If you choose to look at 2 innings of work than that speaks volumes about common sense.
Enjoy sticking your head in the sand folks.
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all you have done is repeat yourself endlessly about Jim Thome against right handed pitchers and how Ring would be a better option using statistics that mean nothing.
The fact is that Yankees righthanders have little or no problems with Thome:
-I’ve already presented Wood’s stats against him
-Chamberlain has faced him 4 times, no hits
-Robertson has faced him 2 time, no hits, 1 K
-Rivera has faced him 22 times, 4 hits, 8 walks
So according to you, based on your statistics, Ring would be a better option against Thome than Mariano Rivera, right?
bye, bye…
The only reason I said Phillies is because they have been hot, but I wouldnt doubt that Cincinatti has a chance to beat them. They both have a string of guys that can hit one out of the park and Cincy has MVP contender Joey Votto. I just think that the Phillies starting pitching for the first 2 games at least is pretty solid. I plan on watching the game tonight. Im going to try to watch the yanks/twins game but I get so nervous so ill probably just check up on the scores and watch the end.
The real issue with Ring is not how good or bad he is, IMO. The issue is whether having only one LOOGY will deter Girardi from using Logan in a crucial situation in order to have him available later in the game.
There is no question that it is advantageous for a lefty to pitch to Kubel, Mauer and Thome, but the Yanks will only have one LH bullet in the pen. So if the situation calls for a LOOGY in the sixth, will Girardi use Logan? If he doesn’t (or does), will the Yanks pay the penalty later? We’ll find out.
But the Yanks have to understand that, and they still didn’t put Ring on the roster. And the Yanks only had one LH reliever most of the year while Ring was tearing up AAA, and they didn’t call him up until September 15th.
So, either the Yanks are really dumb, or they know something (or think they know something) about Ring that the pro-Ring forces here don’t.
I know which way I go on that.
unroyce ring = Arthur Rhodes and Chapman? , I think those two will loom large in this series.
Also, I think Cueto and Volquez has as good of stuff as anyone in the NL. Well, if Volquez is healthy.
Looks like Belicheck pulled a Torre. Moss is gone! (If this is old news I apologize.)
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Okay kids, this looks to be it in terms of predicting for the whole division series. If anyone adds predictions, Texas can’t be in the mix.
One hour before game time ends the prediction possibility for the specific series.
http://members.cox.net/lsdorga.....SERIES.pdf
Hi Comet
hope your weather improves, but at least it must be warmer!
I was thinking about you earlier…I just discovered that Joey Votto is a Canadian. Also, I am picking my son up from college in the W part of the state, where they have a Tim Hortons!!!
I picked the Phils, but am really hoping the Reds win. Just b/c I like some of their players. They have Miguel Cairo, who I have a soft spot for. And Jonny Gomes, who I think is a thug, but overcame a lot both in upbringing and health issues.
The Phillies just have some scary pitching.. Halladay in his first taste of October? Not a guy I want to have to face possibly twice in a 5 game set.
Cashmoney,
Yes.
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I’m pretty interested in the Rays/Rangers game starting shortly. I think it could be the most meaningful Game 1 of the four…if Lee goes in there and shuts them down then the Rays are in trouble.
trisha – Just a random question I’m sure has been answered before but.. how do you reconcile the fact that cheats and liars play for the team you root for if your opinion is so strong about that topic? If you said “Its because I like the Yankees” that would be a totally acceptable answer in my book, btw.. I’m just curious since you seem to have some venom for Ortiz.
The most underestimated team is the Reds. They’re not as bad as everyone thinks. They could at least take a game or two out of that series.
Trisha,
Thanks for adding my predictions to the chart.
Moss gets to face the Jets Monday night. Nice welcome back for Revis.
Ready for Game 1 tonight. Let’s go Yankees
Trisha
Interesting results on your chart. Of course, being Yankee fans, we all picked the Yankees. Phillies and Giants are overwhelming favorites, mixed guesses on TB/Texas
If anyone adds anything for any of the other series I’ll add it later. Please check to see that I got your predictions right.
Ciao y’all.
Shame,
If the Yankees and Phillies made the WS then you could potentially see CC vs Halladay 3 times if the series went 7 games..
Blake,Tampa plays exceedingly well on the road . I see Garza and Davis match up well against Rangers predominant RH lineup if they can avoid Hamilton’s potent bat , especially in TX . I think if the Rangers loses this game , they are in deep doo doo.
I heard part of Coldplay Clocks on the radio today, and I just got the chills/shakes thinking about a repeat title!
Trisha – Thank you for hosting the predictions.
Doreen, Erica – Thank you for hosting GTLU. And a special thanks to Erica for the game countdowns.
My legs are finally shaking….I know it’s October – the greatest month in the history of the world!!
trisha -
Wow, I’m glad on on your good side.
But, he did deserve it.
Today is a great day for our team, can’t we all try and be a bit positive as to how things will, or we hope will go for the Yankees.
I’m just tired of waiting for the game to start – Go Yankees!
trisha-
“Ciao y’all.”
You must be from Southern Italy.
Cash,
I think its a big game for both teams…however I like Wilson better than Shields and Texas has a better offense. We’ll see…that should be a fun series.
“trisha – Just a random question I’m sure has been answered before but.. how do you reconcile the fact that cheats and liars play for the team you root for if your opinion is so strong about that topic? If you said “Its because I like the Yankees” that would be a totally acceptable answer in my book, btw.. I’m just curious since you seem to have some venom for Ortiz.”
Shame, absolutely acceptable question. Anyone who has read my posts, back to when Giambi was called on cheating (I posted on the Times then) knows that my immediate reaction was that I wanted cheaters ridden out of town on a rail. Until they owned up to it. I guess that’s the forgiveness part of it. I posted daily that I thought Giambi should be dumped, and the same thing when Andy was called on it – until he admitted – and the same thing when Arod was outed.
The thing that disgusts me and that I cannot reconcile is the lying on top of the cheating. that’s why I wrote off Bonds and Clemens and Manny and Ortiz.
Nothing to do with the Yankee thing at all. Remember, fat-ass Clemens as a Yankee.
If the Rangers win today, I believe they will take the series. After Price, there is not one SP pitcher on the Rays that bothers me.
The Reds over Phillies – I don’t think so, but, I’d enjoy seeing it happen.
“I’m just tired of waiting for the game to start”
Big AL – I wish I could just stop time for 24 more hours to get some extra rest!
Blake-
A battle of two great left-handers.
Lee’s audition against one of our major competitors. Hope he shines because he’s likely to be a Yankee next season and we want him looking good.
Cold play?
Try this CR…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vq9B7PxcfBk
I think I have my menus for the next two nights.
For CC – same as last season: Chili Con Carne and Chocolate Chip Cookies.
For Andy – in honor of his La. roots: Gumbo. I was thinking of beignets for dessert, but can’t afford the calories!
. After Price, there is not one SP pitcher on the Rays that bothers me.
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same can to say about after Lee, AL.
CR9 -
I’m like the runner waiting for the gun to go off, and the race to begin.
This is the day I’ve waited for, since the last out in the 2009 WS.
The road to #28 begins tonight, and like a run-a-way train, there ain’t nothing goin to stop us – I hope.
MTU – strictly Rome and North!
Big Al – I know myself cold. So when I tell you I can be the kindest person in the world, I seriously mean it. But if you get in my face you’re going to wish you hadn’t. People sometimes mistake kindness for weakness.
Anyway, that fool has been continually with asinine purile personal attacks from since when he first crawled in here. I’ll only take so much. And then the gloves are off. And I have to say I do think he’s pretty stupid. But if he had never acted the fool, I never would have said that.
You want to question what I post, have at. You want to start personally insulting me, well that’s when the temperature changes.
Are there any right-handed pitchers starting any games today?
Blake – the fact that that scenario is even a possibility is crazy. I don’t know how well Halladay performs on short rest, which he would have to do in that case, correct? I forget how the schedule plays out for the series right now and if there are off days.. Oh geez, I can’t even think about it anymore because I don’t want to anoint us into the World Series yet.
trisha – “The thing that disgusts me and that I cannot reconcile is the lying on top of the cheating. that’s why I wrote off Bonds and Clemens and Manny and Ortiz. ”
This makes perfect sense, I was just wondering the rationale. Personally, I don’t really know if someone admitting something after they are caught makes them a more honorable person, but since there really isnt anything I (or fans in general) can do about it I figure its best to just move on.
Don’t be jealous, bit I get baseball morning, noon, and afternoon. AND I get to watch primetime tv tonight.
Go Yankees, Go Reds, go 5 games in St. Pete.
Not sure who I’d rather face in a potential ALCS.
Speaking of, Maddon made some curious moves with his postseason roster IMO. I guess all the teams leave off guys that could help. Like Royce Ring.
I kid! I kid!
Adding logs to the bonfire, he’s just not good enough.
Chili Con Carne and Chocolate Chip Cookies.
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do you dip the cookies with Chili , Doreen?
Cashmoney -
You’re right, but I like the Rangers “O” over the Rays “O” in a slugfest.
Even if I did live near SOS I wouldn’t ever blame the dogs.
By the way, whatever it is you’ve got please don’t bogart it.
I want some.
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Me? you got the wrong guy Cheech.
Get me drunk and stick it in my face and I probably wouldn’t say no but that’s about it these days.
And apparently flashbacks are just a myth.
Doreen October 6th, 2010 at 12:44 pm
For Andy ? in honor of his La. roots: Gumbo. I was thinking of beignets for dessert, but can?t afford the calories!
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Oh, go ahead and have the beignets. Make Andy proud!!
Your meal for tonight sounds really good BTW.
MTU,
I know..should be fun to watch…especially since I can watch as an impartial fan.
Shame,
I don’t know either…haven’t looked at the schedules but I would think its a possibility…talk about good for baseball.
“Get me drunk and stick it in my face and I probably wouldn’t say no but that’s about it these days.”
sounds like my normal Wednesday nights…
Cashmoney – Not really a big fan of that song. Thanks anyway.
Big AL – Gotcha. I like that last line, except for the “I hope”
I know its nerve-wracking to wait for our game to start but if you have the opportunity, it’s also good to watch the other teams – if you feel like it that is. Because you’re getting a glimpse of what we might end up seeing. (well, will end up seeing with some teams since we will be in the world series.)
Kate, here’s what’s kind of interesting. There’s no way to know for sure how much homerism comes into the way people predict. I think you almost have to predict for your team. It almost feels unAmerican to do otherwise! But here’s something else that struck me. Last season, people started predicting almost immediately. This season there was more reticence. I guess that’s pretty understandable also. I’m happy that I offered an “incentive” because I think that at least got the ball rolling.
Cashmoney -
That could be a very interesting taste combo, depending on how spicy the chili!
AL, I see what you saying. Hamilton , Cruz and Vlad are a formidable trio to face in TX. I think the Rays offense are very heavily reliant on Longoria. He is the one guy that scares me on the Rays.
Doreen
I had planned to make chili tonight too…didn’t even think about the CC connection
Jeers-
Let’s just hope there is something to celebrate whatever your pleasure is.
Let’s just hope that the Rays/ Rangers series goes the distance
“Personally, I don’t really know if someone admitting something after they are caught makes them a more honorable person, but since there really isnt anything I (or fans in general) can do about it I figure its best to just move on.”
Shame, I think with me it’s the forgiveness aspect. The mea culpa tends to soften my hard heart.
Kate and Doreen,
I am having hamburgers tonight. And I know Trisha is. Does that count? Actually that is our good luck meal for the Yankees.
Today’s Post Season GTLU is Now Open for Business.
In case you missed the groundrules earlier:
1: Lineups will be accepted only during the “open for business” window. Today, that will be from 1 pm until 3 pm. No exceptions.
2. No changes to lineups will be accepted. No exceptions.
3. All lineups must include players and positions. We will let you know if you forget and you get one shot to re-submit a corrected lineup before we enter it.
4. Once a new post is put up here, all lineups must be submitted in the new post.
That’s it.
Good luck. Have fun. Go Yankees!!!
Lee is 0-3 against the Rays this year, but, my money says he wins this afternoon.
1:37 start, I’ll watch because it’s an AL game that could mean something to the Yankees in the second round. Besides, I love to watch good pitching, and today should be one of those days all around.
MTU,
I’ll drink to that.
Oh, I almost forgot. Did anyone see the cover of USAToday?
They couldn’t wait until AFTER the post season to start talking about Derek’s future? Someone needs to write a sports reporting rule book.
ohhhh.. GTLU.. ok, I’ll try again… (after Fran guesses)…
Doesn’t someone around here take a lucky shower before important Yankee games ?
Maybe I should go out and “sweep” my driveway for luck.
Doreen -
GTLU
Jeter SS
Swisher RF
Tex 1B
A-Rod 3B
Cano 2B
Berkman DH
Posada C
Granderson CF
Gardner LF
Fran -
Yeah, that counts!
I’m thinking of hamburgers and milkshakes on Saturday for Phil.
Erin -
CC cookies can be frozen either extra dough or leftover baked, but beignets, I don’t think so.
Fran and I also have special postseason menus. But we don’t get as specific as Doreen. We did that during the season and then finally gave it up when our eating Puerto Rican food did nothing to help Javy win games! But we believe in the magic of the postseason and so pick a certain meal for each series. We eat the same thing every game. (Yes it can get sickening, but you sacrifice for you team, no?)
Okay, speaking of chow, I seriously will now say Ciao until later, ha ha.
trisha – I understand that. I felt out of all of them that Giambi was the least ethically challenged of the bunch.
post season GTLU
SS Jeet
RF Swish
1B Tex
3B Alex
2B Robbie
DH Thames
C Po
CF Grandy
LF GGBG
thanks Doreen, for hosting and for the dinner idea
“Kate and Doreen,
I am having hamburgers tonight. And I know Trisha is. Does that count? Actually that is our good luck meal for the Yankees.
Well I was going to check with Fran to see if we could give up our meal choice but I’m happy she did. Because now if anyone wants to join in it makes it that much stronger! Hamburger for the first series. We know what we eat for the ALCS, but I’ll wait until then to disclose it.
GTLU:
SS Jeter
RF Swisher
1B Teixeira
3B Rodriguez
2B Cano
DH Thames
C Posada
CF Granderson
LF Gardner
Thanks!
Shame,
I am working on my line-up now. Should be ready soon
SS Derek Jeter
RF Nick Swisher
1B Mark Teixeira
3B Alex Rodriguez
2B Robinson Cano
DH Marcus Thames
C Jorge Posada
LF Austin Kearns
CF Curtis Granderson
GTLU:
SS Jeter
RF Swisher
1B Teixeira
3B Rodriguez
2B Cano
DH Thames
C Posada
CF Granderson
LF Gardner
Thanks! , I copied Erin’s , it looks good !
The official Yankee tagline for this postseason is “The Chase For 28″
Don’t be a no-show for viente ocho?
Good morning all,
I was up before 5 AM, which is not my time of day, so after breakfast a short nap was in order.
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Comet,
Welcome to the Valley of the Sun. This last day has been most unusual, but it did break the 100+ degree days we have had since we arrived. Enjoy your stay. By the way TBS on Cox Cable is 716. I have not yet had an In and Out Burger.
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The games are finally here. Go Yankees!!!
trisha – true pinstriped blue
October 6th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
My narcissism and fantasy perspective? You little twit, I eat things like you for breakfast. Let me say this. Sorry to have to remove you from the predictions chart. You REALLY have to go a piece for me to do something like that. How’s THAT for “narcissism”?
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Oh no! Removed from Trisha predictions chart!!!! Nooooo!!!! How will I survive!
You know nothing about baseball and even less about yourself. You are not very bright and as inarticulate a homer as I have ever seen. The narcissism hit home didn’t it? Wink!
Doreen,
GTLU time?????
Cashmoney October 6th, 2010 at 1:09 pm
Thanks! , I copied Erin?s , it looks good !
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LOL
thank you! Although I think that one will be a popular lineup today.
C U later.
Off 2 see Lee shutdown the Rays (I hope).
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Ok I’ll try it without Fran’s help because I think mine will look like a lot of other peoples today…
GTLU:
SS Jeter
RF Swisher
1B Tex
3B Alex
2B Cano
C Posada
DH Thames
CF Granderson
LF Gardner
And thanks to all the ladies who hold down these fun competitions for us!! You make passing the time in my cubicle much easier..
SAS -
Indeed it is!
MTU -
Hmmm – haven’t seen that signoff since ….. last season????
Doreen,
Here is my line-up:
Derek SS
Swisher RF
Tex 1B
Alex 3B
Robbie 2B
Thames DH
Jorge C
Granderson CF
Gardner LF
I really wanted to put Granderson 2nd, but then if I put Swisher 6 that would bump Jorge to 8 and I don’t think Girardi would do that. But you never know with Joe
Shame
and lets hope the lineup looks like ours and not RayVT’s…just say no to Kearnsie!!!
Doreen ,
Forgot to say Thanks for hosting
GTLU
Jeter SS
Swish RF
Tex 1b
Alex 3b
Cano 2b
Thames DH
Posada C
Granderson CF
Gardner LF
Doreen-
It’s part of the magic Doreen. It’s adds to Yankee power !
Listeneing to your food recipes makes me hungry.
Have a great day.
Visualize world peace, and Yankee victories.
Doreen:
Jeter SS
Swisher RF
Teixiera 1B
Rodriguez 3B
Cano 2B
Thames DH
Posada C
Granderson CF
Gardner LF
Thanks a million.
So I turn on TBS, against my better judgment, to watch the game. Turned it on too early.
Did you know CC can be beaten???
Did you know that the Yankees only have ONE pitcher and if CC loses, they having no one pitching in games 2 and 3?
Man, if I’m Pettitte and Hughes, I’ve a chip on my shoulder, thank you very much!
Also, boy these other pitchers coming in for the other team must really be something, as apparently, the Yankees have no chance to beat the Twins pitching.
I HATE THIS!
Oh, and all this was said with pure GLEE.
Thanks Doreen and Erica
SS El Capitan
RF Swish
1B Tex
3B Alex
2B MVP
DH Thames
C Posada
CF Grandy
LF GGBG
LETS GO #28!
Doreen,
Yeah pretty pathetic huh. I guess winning a World Series the year before doesn’t get you the street cred it used to.
GTLU:
Jeter SS
Swisher RF
Texiera 1B
A- Rod 3B
Cano 2B
Thames DH
Posada C
Granderson CF
Gardner LF
Thank you Doreen!
This is the original opening day line up without Nick Johnson….remember???
upstate kate – I know!! Thats exactly what I thought too.. no offense Ray!
The only thing I was struggling with was where to put Thames. I put Posada in front of him only because he’s a switch hitter. Now, I’m sure to some people that makes little sense because the Yanks are facing a lefty and will probably want to have 1-7 as righty at bats, so who cares where Po/Thames are? But my thinking was Girardi would set it up in this order because if you get to the pen, where you might face a lefty, you might want to break up all those righty hitters in a row.
Anyway.. I think I’m gonna lose. Fran has something different than me
I kinda like the Yankees being thought of as underdogs…and speaking of Glee…that was a downer of an episode last night
I’ll be watching the game from Mickey Mantle’s with my Yankee Meetup Group. If you can’t be at the Stadium …Mickey’s is the next best place. We watched the last game of the WS at Mickey’s and the place was PACKED and JUMPING. I’m so excited …can’t wait for the first game to get underway.
I might just order the Chili for dinner when I’m there tonight like Doreen & Kate or I could go the Trisha/Fran route and get the cheeseburger and fries….decisions, decisions…
I’ll be at game 3 at the Stadium and I’m hoping I’m lucky enough to see the ALDS clincher ….
Go CC !!!
Go Yankees 2010 !!!
Shame
I had the same question. I put Thames ahead of Po b/c Po has been struggling, but I could have gone either way. I also thought about batting Grandy 2nd, but decided not to against the LHP.
With all of these “expert” predictions of Yankees doom it makes me wonder why the Yankees are even showing up tonight.
And by the way Liriano was pretty awful in his last 3 starts. Haven’t heard that mentioned too much.
KenDavidoff Playoff predictions: #Yankees, #Rangers, #Phillies, #Giants in DS. #Yankees and #Phillies in CS. #Yankees win World Series.
I really like Davidoff.
Post season baseball ! here we go!
I may have to mute this game. Buck Martinez’ voice drives me up the wall. I had gotten used to it when he was on XM radio, but that was a while ago.
So, gonna have to move operations out of the kitchen for now.
I’ll be at game 3 at the Stadium and I’m hoping I’m lucky enough to see the ALDS clincher ….
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Hope so Yanksgal. And I’m sure what ever you choose for dinner will work
The following posters have submitted lineups. If I have missed yours, please let me know.
RayVT
upstate kate
Erin
Cashmoney
Big Al
Shame Spencer
Fran the Original
Unknown
SAS
NYY626
comet
GTLU
SS – Jeter
CF – Granderson
1B – Teixeira
3B – Alex
2B – Robbie
C – Posada
DH – Thames
RF – Swisher
LF – Gardner
The funny part of the TBS Pre-Game Show is they conveinently forget that Andy Pettitte is the winningest post-season pitcher in history and Phil Hughes is an all star who won 18 games this year.
Yet, if CC loses, the series is “over”.
How does that make sense?
If CC lost tonight, and Andy wins tomorrow, not outside the realm of possibility, the series shifts DECIDEDLY in favor of the Yankees.
Its the talk radio mentality. Say something so monumentally dumb, people will talk about you all day.
Akin to Mitch Williams a few weeks ago saying the Red Sox would overtake the Yankees due to their “superior bullpen” (I guess he didn’t bother watching the games this year), or trying to sell Royce Ring as the key to the series.
As flawed as the Yankees are this year, they are no more flawed than the other three teams.
Somehow, that’s lost on the supposed “experts” discussing the merits of the four AL teams in the post-season.
The Yankees WILL win!
So let them put that in their pipes and smoke it!
Bye .
GTLU:
Jeter 2B
Swisher RF
Texiera 1B
A Rod 3B
Cano 2B
Posada C
Granderson CF
Thames DH
Gardner LF
thank you
Doreen I had to listen to Buck Martinez’ a lot this year as I get the Toronto feeds when the Yankees play the Blue Jays. I do not care for him. i’ll likely have to listen to him as well.
“And by the way Liriano was pretty awful in his last 3 starts. Haven’t heard that mentioned too much.”
Lol, so true Fran. But the reality is that hating the Yankees is a sport in and of itself. I mean, thats why its fun being the best. If I was a fan of some mid-market team, you bet your a** I’d hate the Yankees too.
Sometimes, I wonder if mainstream media just does this stuff to satisfy the fan bases of 29 other teams.
Yanksgal07 -
That sounds like so much fun!!! Enjoy.
Doreen.
My first GTLU entry.
Jeter SS
Swisher RF
Teixera 1B
Arod 3B
Cano 2B
Thames DH
Posada C
Granderson CF
Gardner LF
Go Team! Thanks.
Shame,
You may be right with your line-up. Girardi could put Posada ahead of Thames.
Tonight’s game is big, but it’s not all-important. CC against aces is going to be a push. Same with Price or Lee. Of course you hope you win, but it’s not a mismatch. The Yankees just need to walk out of here with a split – which won’t be easy as Pavano is a very good pitcher who handles the Yankees. If forced to choose, I’d probably pick the Twins staff over the Yankees, but a lot of that is based on Andy’s rustiness. I just can’t be sure what he’s going to give us. Duensening and Phil is probably a toss up. It’s just aggravating that pundits are making Andy and Phil out to be injured or crap.
I got really scared – I thought my work TV wasn’t going to have TBS. It was channel 14 on my work TV for some reason. I’ve never seen TBS that low in a station line up…
The Yankees just need to walk out of here with a split
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Hi Betsy,
Absolutely. And I do think that the Yankees can handle Pavano. They do have a little extra incentive.
Doreen, it’s embarrassing. It’s worse for Phil because his ability is basically being questioned whereas with Andy it’s his health/readiness (and I agree with the questions about him). It’s like Phil is garbage……
Fran – your words of encouragement are appreciated!! Its like being a baseball player and getting compliments from Derek Jeter!
TBS couldnt even bother to spell the word SEPARATE correctly! They spelled it Seperate!
I got Texas beating Tampa. After Price the Rays have some question marks too. Rangers can knock around Shields Garza imo.
Rangers working Price’s pitch count
SJ, if you google as much as I do, you’d see basic themes:
1) Andy’s state of readiness for – now, I can actually understand the questions.
2) Phil: terrible 2nd half; too many walks, not enough strikeouts, can’t pitch at home. We may think he’s had a good year, but ask the mediots and they’ll say he’s average. I lost whatever respect I had for Verducci when he explained how bad the Yankees rotation beyond CC . With that agenda in mind, he picked Phil’s last 8 starts and said he’s got an over 5 ERA. Why 8? Because using his last 5 starts wouldn’t work for him.
TBS is channel 8 on Time Warner in Queens …
Doreen …Mickey’s is great to watch a game …we get the back area to ourselves which works out great. Some of the people think the prices are high but it’s typical NY prices for food. I don’t drink so I guess that builds up the tab fast and the drinks are a little higher priced than the average NYC bar. Have you ever been there ?
Fran …maybe I’ll have Chili AND a burger to be on the safe side …
Go Yankees 2010 !!
good inning for the rangers if not result wise, Vlad’s bat speed looks good. The trio of Cruz , Vlad and Hamilton are dominated by Price’s blazer!
This is could be a good omen for TX’s offense IMO.
I’ve avoided reading most of the previews and it’s been a help. It doesn’t even matter what these guys say – the games will be decided on the field.
Ooops , arent’ dominated by Price’s Blazer.
Betsy,
I don’t Google because I don’t care what media people have to say about the Yankees.
They have shows/columns to write and the schtick that goes with that stuff.
I trust my eyes and what players and scouts tell me.
The Yankees, while not as good as last year, are certainly capable of winning again this year.
They just have less margin for error than last year.
Shame,
If I don’t win I hope you do
LOL Brandon Tierney on ESPN 1050 acted like a lunatic this morning. Kay had told him with such conviction that Kearns would be starting tonight that Tierney wouldn’t listen to ANY reasonable explanation that Jody Mc Donald was offering. His rationale was that Kay and Girardi are close (and that Kay is around the team), so there would be no way Kay would say something like that without knowing. He made Kay out to be like some oracle on Mt. Olympus and then had to back track when told of Kim Jones’ tweet last night re: Gardner starting.
Look at the new ESPN the Body magazine issue! The male is none other than A’MARE!!!!
http://gossiponthis.com/2010/1.....ody-issue/
Betsy, even picking Phil’s last five starts shows how inconsistent he is:
8/31: 5 IP, 2 ER
9/5: 6 IP, 6 ER
9/15: 6.2 IP, 4 ER
9/21: 6.1 IP, 3 ER
9/26: 6 IP, 1 ER.
If he hadn’t had the 9/26 start, people here would be much more worried about him.
SJ, I don’t blame you for not googling. I was googling for other stuff, not necessarily looking for media previews of the series, and of course our rotation gets ripped to shreds. I want to know where all the Cy Youngs are on the other AL teams. Duensening is a good pitcher, but he’s started all of 12 times this year. Is he a sure thing? Blackburn? Garza’s a good pitcher who’s had a bad/inconsistent year. Shields? Despite Neyer saying he’s lucky, also a bad year. CJ Wilson has had an amazing year, but he’s not playoff proven.Tommy Hunter? Right………..
Lee is struggling out of the gate. However, just a blooper and a couple of semi-well hit balls that were perfectly placed.
yanksgal07 -
We were at Mickey’s several years ago, but it was winter – no games.
We enjoyed it. I’d love to experience it sometime to watch a game. Not likely to happen, but it would be nice. 
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The following posters have submitted lineups for GTLU. If I’ve missed your lineup, let me know.
RayVT
upstate kate
Erin
Cashmoney
Big Al
Shame Spencer
Fran the Original
Unknown
SAS
NYY626
comet
tyanksfan36
JEKIKASO
blake
Ignore predictions. They are mostly based on the fact that the Yankees opponents will always play at 150% of their capabilities and the Yankees will play at 50% of theirs.
They always assume the other team will be perfect which is flawed.
Rays are in business already.
Most articles written by sportswriters (more like gossip columnists at times) are THEIR opinions and based on very little fact. Why people continue to read them and take them as gospel amazes me.
I say let the games get played on the field ….not on the opinions of people who think they know it all and are just trying to start a controversay….much like bloggers …
Go Yankees 2010 !!!
Wave, the 6 run start was bad – the others were not. I know he made terrible mistakes to Johnson in Tampa, but it’s not like he came into Tampa and imploded – which IMO would be a bigger sign that he’s got trouble under pressure. He did have that start against the Sox, so saying that people would be more worried if he didn’t doesn’t make any sense. He also didn’t buckle under in the Tampa game at home.
I never said he’s a lock to pitch well, but I want to know why he’s so bad and the other #3 starters are soooo good.
GLove, lol – I think that’s true.
I have no idea who’s going to win this series, but I think if we lose it will be more on the offense than the pitching. Hypocrisy just ticks me off.
Umpire already making bad calls.
Tampa Bay was “victimized by the Derek Jeter play” said by Buck Martinez and Orsillo. This is why I dont watch other baseball games. They infuriate me. As if nobody has ever faked getting hit before.
I sure hope Mr. “I don’t walk anyone” Lee doesn’t walk a run in here.
For all the hooplah about the Phillies, they struggled for a long time and didn’t find themselves until sometime in the 2nd half. Once a team gets past the Division Series – and especially the LCS – that’s not the same team that may have struggled before the playoffs started. It’s extremely premature to say that the Phillies are going to blow their way through the WS while getting mere token opposition from NL teams or even the AL.
my GTLU
SS Jeter
RF Swisher
1B Tex
3B Arod
2B Cano
C Posada
DH Thames
LF Kearns
CF Granderson
I had a big temptation to put Grandy 2nd but with the lefty, He’ll be 9th I think.
Did Texas just get a break?
Texas just got a huge break. Good job by Lee to wiggle out of this jam. I’d be going insane if we got cheated out of a plate appearance with the bases loaded in the first inning of the first playoff game. Wow! Too bad there isn’t such a thing as a Rays fan to go insane over it!
Cliff Lee is a beast.
Will sure look good in pinstripes next year.
Much more slimming look than the Rangers unis! lol
New Post. No more lineups here.
Jeter didn’t fake anything. He reacted to the bat getting hit with the ball. The ump made the call, and he took it. ANYONE else would of done anything. If anyone thinks Jeter was able to pull of that performance in a split second by thinking, “That ball was close to contact. I should play this up,” they’re nuts.
“Much more slimming look than the Rangers unis! lol”
lmao! The pinstripes do make ya look 10 lbs lighter!
I am surprised that Rays picked Aybar over Baldelli .
Baldelli over Aybar.
Cliff Lee might look good in Pinstripes, but Doc already looks great in them…however red ones.
What could have been if Toronto had only been willing to deal him into the AL East….