Yankees waiting to announce rotation
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Oct 13, 2010 
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Joe Girardi changed his plan for today.
Instead of meeting before today’s workout to discuss roster and rotation decisions, Girardi said his staff will meet this afternoon. That means no announcement just yet about Games 2 and 3.
UPDATE, 1:49 p.m.: That also means no announcement about the roster, but it sounds like the Yankees will carry the same group of 25. “I don’t anticipate there being a lot of roster moves, or even any,” Girardi said. “It’s something we’ll talk about and discuss as an organization after practice today. As I said, I don’t want to put myself in a box, but I don’t anticipate much.”
Meanwhile, the sim game has ended the Yankees are about to start today’s regular workout. Immediately after the sim game, Jorge Posada and Francisco Cervelli went through a series of throwing drills — home to second, home to third — but right now the only Yankees on the field are Kevin Long and Butch Wynegar getting ready for batting practice.
I’m not going to lose any sleep over AJ’s start. I’m going to leave it in God’s hands and hope that things work out.
G-COctober 13th, 2010 at 12:52 pmBetsy, its AJ’s inaction that speaks louder than his words.
If he’s so “fine” throwing to Posada, he should waltz into Girardi’s office and demand that such happens.
I like AJ, but coming off the worst pitching season in team history, he’s in no position to have a personal freaking catcher at great expense to the team. I will be livid at all parties- both AJ and Girardi – if Cervelli catches any of his games for the remainder of the postseason.
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We can’t assume that AJ is asking to pitch to Cervelli. For all we know Posada got so frustrated with AJ he told Girardi he didn’t want to catch him.
Or, maybe neither AJ or Posada made a demand and it’s all Girardi thinking AJ and Posada can’t work together, or that AJ pitches better with Cervelli behind the plate.
Everyone’s assuming Phil in game 3 for some reason, but I think he should go in game 2………2/6 with Andy in 3/7
I would assume Cashman, Girardi and Eiland are going to make whatever decision they feel gives them the best chance to win that game. Burnett will pitch to Cervelli or he will pitch to Posada and until the game is played no one will know how it will turn out. All three players might be good, bad or average that day.
@Betsy. I totally agree. Need a veteran available for a possible Game 7.
I think Hughes will pitch game 2 against Lewis/Hunter with Andy locking horns with Lee in the Bronx.
Adderall: Better pitching through chemicals.
I think people should forget home/road splits with Phil. I have absolutely no problem with him pitching at home, but he pitches well in Texas and you want the veteran in game 7.
Cash will be on with Francesca…….
“I’m not going to lose any sleep over AJ’s start. I’m going to leave it in God’s hands and hope that things work out.”
I wonder how God is at blocking breaking pitchers a foot outside the zone in the dirt?
Here is the thing? Where do you bat the Almighty? Do you bump Tex from the 3rd slot or let the Creator bat 8th behind Berkman?
Cash on with Mike now
I would bat him clean up
Are you saying Jesus Christ can’t hit a curveball?!!!
Jesus Christ more clutch than A-Rod?
It’s kind of too bad AJ isn’t going head to head against Lee, if you know what I mean….
Just keep Mitre amd Mosely ready when Burnett pitches and above all, run support galore.
Cashman on ALCS roster:
“Status quo”
“It’s kind of too bad AJ isn’t going head to head against Lee, if you know what I mean….”
Agree. Lose the battle, win the war…..
That’s a loser mentality. Yankees can win any game against any pitcher.
Cannot give AJ a short leash
With Tommy Hunter going, you figure we can get some runs that night
If AJ gives up a couple of runs, yank him. Do not let him put you in a 3-4-5 run hole early
“@Betsy. I totally agree. Need a veteran available for a possible Game 7.”
Pitch Sabathia Game 4, and you have him him AND Pettite ready to pitch game 7.
2 Days, 6 Hours, and 17 Minutes until Game 1 of the ALCS
Cashman is pro-instant replay.
Says that with all the TV’s in the new stadiums many fans know the correct call within 30 seconds of the play.
He says put an extra umpire in the press box with a TV.
someone posted on Twitter that if Andy pitches a potential game 7, then they have CC out of the pen. sounds like a winning formula to me
and I still think that if we are relying on AJ to pitch a must win game, then something has not gone right in games 1-3. I honestly think that he can pitch well enough to keep us in the game and I am an extreme pessimist.
Cashman on Girardi’s future:
“He’s the right man for the job”
@wallacematthews believe it or not, AJ hit Kears in the helmet with a curveball after most of the beat writers had left to attend Girardi presser; kearns OK
Mitre should be added to the roster.
Mitre was on the roster in the ALDS… he just wasn’t used.
Haven’t been able to log in in quite a while, but HAD to share this…
JonathanMayoB3 Check out #Pirates prospect Tony Sanchez and his AFL blog at http://bit.ly/bNMc7d
Yank, oops – thanks!
jacksquat October 13th, 2010 at 1:55 pm
@wallacematthews believe it or not, AJ hit Kears in the helmet with a curveball after most of the beat writers had left to attend Girardi presser; kearns OK
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That;ll teach Kearns to dig in against him!
“Says that with all the TV’s in the new stadiums many fans know the correct call within 30 seconds of the play.”
Astute point.
The virtue of having the umpires, players and managers being at a disadvantage to fans (both in the stadium and at home), and the media really makes no sense at the most fundamental level.
Did they warn both benches?
Rishi -
Thanks for that link.
I still don’t see the point of CC on short rest. I mean, I see the point, but don’t see it being THAT advantageous to us because we still have to pitch Burnett. If it was like the ALDS where we could forgo the 4th starter, then it would be different.
Essentially, all we’re doing is flip-flopping CC and AJ. CC will go on short rest against Hunter, AJ will then go against CJ Wilson the next day. Isn’t it actually better to pitch AJ against an inferior pitcher like Hunter, where we could potentially overcome a bad/mediocre AJ start, rather than against a good pitcher Wilson with much less margin for error? Again, we can’t avoid AJ anyway, so why not use him against the considerably worse opposing starter?
Then the argument of CC in game 7… wouldn’t you trust Andy on normal rest more than CC pitching for the 2nd time in a row on short rest? Yes, he would be available out of the pen, but what are the chances we will actually need that? Our bullpen is our strength.
Even if we go down 3-1, it’s not the end of the world. We’ll have a rested CC in game 5. Hughes in game 6 in a venue he has pitched well. Big game Andy in game 7. Red Sox came back from 3-1 down, it’s not impossible.
Banuelos pitching today in AFL – so is Casey Kelly, lol
AJ will pitch game 4, bank on it.
Hi Rishi
thanks for the link
did you ever do the new job shopping trip?
The only reason the season series is tied at 4-4 with Texas, is the last series in Texas, where the Yankees gave it away. This Yankees team is too good to lose to Texas, They should do no worse than a 4-2 win. This leaves CC fresh to start game 1 of the WS.
Hang on, it’s going to be a fun ride.
The Genius Maker October 13th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
Rich in NJ October 13th, 2010 at 10:10 am
I?m giving Lee every game he pitches. The Yankees would be well-served to just rest their regulars, and punt the game with Gaudin or some such.
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Not sure if you were bing sarcastic or not, but I wouldn?t worry at all about the other team and I would setup my rotation my way. I will worry about the WS if I get there, but I start with the mindset that CC is pitching on short rest twice and so are Phil and Pettitte. Depending on the bullpen use and the outcome of the games I decide whether game is CC or not. If we are up 3-0 I may consider starting Burnett (or someone else) for game 4, otherwise CC goes in game 4.
Question: What would Derek Jeter get on the open market if the Yanks said good bye and he became a free agent?
the moral of the story is that the Yankees need to be up in the series heading to game 4…whether that means winning both in Texas or finding a way to beat Cliff Lee. They do that and they’ll be in good shape.
They are not pitching Phil on short rest once, never mind twice
Hey Genius -
I guess you have not listened to what Cashman has been saying, it will be a 4 man rotation, and AJ should pitch game 4.
Throwing CC, Andy and Phil, all on short rest, is a sure bet way to lose this series, and have nothing left if you some how advance. Not going to happen.
I still don’t see the point of CC on short rest. I mean, I see the point, but don’t see it being THAT advantageous to us because we still have to pitch Burnett.
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In the first four games, I’d rather pitch CC twice, and AP/Hughes once. If you’re 2-1, and you lose AJ’s start, you’re 2-2 going into the final stretch. I’d rather be 2-1, put our best pitcher out there, and maybe get 3-1. That makes AJ’s game house money instead of a break point game.
Conversely if we’re 3-0, go for the kill. And if the yankees are losing?! 1-2 or heaven forbid 0-3? I pitch CC on short rest, andy on short rest, hughes on normal rest, and cc on short rest.
it will be a 4 man rotation
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A 4 man rotation doesnt mean AJ has to pitch game 4.
Hypothetically, I wonder what happens if the Yanks win the series in 5 or 6 and Burnett has an absolutely terrible start.
I wonder if the organization would A) consider throwing all 3 guys on short rest, B) Give Moseley the WS Start, or C) Give Burnett another shot
Wally Matthews basically confirmed what Chad said earlier – that the Yankees do not want to go with CC on short rest 3x (or twice, if it’s a shorter series)………though as he said, if we’re down 2-1, I’m sure thaet will change.
“Throwing CC, Andy and Phil, all on short rest, is a sure bet way to lose this series, and have nothing left if you some how advance. Not going to happen.”
Exactly.
CC, Andy, Phil, AJ, CC, Andy, Phil
CC, Andy Phil CC AJ Andy CC
CC Phil Andy AJ CC Phil Andy
Only once Betsy.
Last year I heard the same BS on this board that you can’t pitch Pettitte on short rest and oh my God you can’t do it and Pettitte was fine. It is not that big a deal folks, especially if you only do it a few times. At this point you would only be asking to do it once for Phil and Pettitte. Look back on all the pitchers that do it in the postseason and it has had no issue with them long term and they pitched around their normal level when they did it. I mean look at how many innings and pitches CC threw down the stretch with Milwaukee, if there was ever someone abused it was him. I know Phil is young and Pettitte is older, but asking them to do it once or maybe twice if we get in the WS is NO big deal. Anyone who ever pitched at a high level knows what I am saying. I mean I used catch division I double headers on 3 straight consecutive days during the NCAA tourney’s. You do what you have to. In this case, you are talking about 3 days rest which is really 4 days of hours rest.
I’m so proud of my niece; she passed her road test yesterday and it’s her birthday today. Of course I’m also nervous that now she can drive alone, lol
Those 3 are possible; these following 2 scenarios that are not possible are:
CC Andy Phil CC Andy Phil CC
CC Phil Andy CC AJ Phil CC
Genius, to be honest, I’d be shocked if they asked Phil to do it even once. Let’s wait until we get to the WS to even discuss this because it could be moot, but he’s never done it before – you don’t ask someone to do something they’ve never done before in a big spot. He’s had a big workload this year and has come through it fine, but his right arm is too valuable to be taking any chances with. Maybe one day he can be a guy who can go on short rest, but I don’t think that time is now.
BIG AL October 13th, 2010 at 2:18 pm
Hey Genius -
I guess you have not listened to what Cashman has been saying, it will be a 4 man rotation, and AJ should pitch game 4.
Throwing CC, Andy and Phil, all on short rest, is a sure bet way to lose this series, and have nothing left if you some how advance. Not going to happen.
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I didn’t say it would happen, I was saying what I would do. Sure way to lose the series???yeah, I heard the same thing about Pettitte last year. this is the same board who almost unanimously didn;t even want Burnett on the postseason roster and now you want to give the worst starting pitcher in the AL a game to pitch? there is logic for you.
Then again, this Yankee leadership team is the same one that doesn’t realize that having 2 lefties in the pen is REALLY helpful.
I think the Rays lost to Texas because they over used Price, in their attempt to win the division. They may have won that battle, but, they lost the war. Had they given Price some needed rest down the stretch, and looked at the big picture, things might have been different. I think the Rays pay the piper next year as well, having thrown Price so many innings this year, more than 100 innings over last season, could have long term effects.
This is why, IMO, the Yankees did what they did, resting key people so they could be fresher in the PS.
That’s why they will not pitch CC, Andy and Hughes all on short rest, the Yankees are looking at the big picture, and do not have tunnel vision, as some fans tend to have.
Genius –
It is a big deal. I never doubted last year that Andy could go on 3 days rest – he’s a veteran pitcher that’s been there, done that.
Phil Hughes is a 24 year old kid in his first full season as a starter. He’s surpassed his innings limit and will continue to the further we get into the playoffs. They will not risk the future of Phil. They also will not risk that Phil does not have his stuff on 3 days rest.
The Yankees have to watch out for Phil in that way as well. He threw more than 90 innings more this year than he did last – and I don’t know if that even includes the playoffs. This is why I can’t write in stone what kind of year he’ll have next year because we don’t know how he’ll react to the huge workload this year.
“This is why, IMO, the Yankees did what they did, resting key people so they could be fresher in the PS”.
Joe Girardi said clearly recently that he never “rested players”. Only those that were hurt or dinged up didn’t play. Believe him? Or not.
Betsy, I hear you. I do not think they will, but it is not like Phil never pitched 2 days in a row beofre and in this case he would have 96 hours of rest in between starts (roughly 4 days), even though it is “3″ days rest. It would not be a problem for him nor has it been a problem for anyone else who has done it. Starters have come out of the pen for 1-2 innings on 1 days rest…It isn’t crazy.
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“I am so moved by this mining rescue. Every individual rescue is a miracle. Every part of this story is awe-inspiring.”
+100
I really hope they pitch Hughes game 2. Kim Jones tweeted that Hughes likes pitching in Texas, and I believe her. Off the top of my head, I think of his infamous hamstring-snapping no-hitter there, and last year he pitched an 8-inning shutout in Arlington–one of his best starts in the majors in my opinion (of course he was moved to the bullpen a few starts later). And of course there are his road/home splits, but I won’t beat a dead horse (plus they didn’t really factor into his ALDS start anyway). I think Hughes has matured enough as a pitcher to the point where they could have him start any game, but why not put him in a position where he’s been sucessful in the past? I’m also liking Pettitte vs. Lee in Game 3, especially with Andy’s penchant for rising to the occassion in big games (not the Hughes hasn’t, Pettitte has just done it longer).
BIG AL October 13th, 2010 at 2:28 pm
I think the Rays lost to Texas because they over used Price, in their attempt to win the division. They may have won that battle, but, they lost the war. Had they given Price some needed rest down the stretch, and looked at the big picture, things might have been different. I think the Rays pay the piper next year as well, having thrown Price so many innings this year, more than 100 innings over last season, could have long term effects.
This is why, IMO, the Yankees did what they did, resting key people so they could be fresher in the PS.
That?s why they will not pitch CC, Andy and Hughes all on short rest, the Yankees are looking at the big picture, and do not have tunnel vision, as some fans tend to have.
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there is a difference between the regular season and the postseason. Do some homework on guys who pitch on short rest and see if it has any bearing on their career?
there is also a difference between innings pitched and pitches thrown, although too many times people dismiss it.
Hughes has been babied this year and while his innings pitched is up, he should be fine as the Yankees have not been absurd in their jump.
“Wally Matthews basically confirmed what Chad said earlier – that the Yankees do not want to go with CC on short rest 3x (or twice, if it’s a shorter series)………though as he said, if we’re down 2-1, I’m sure thaet will change.”
It CAN’T change.
You can’t have Sabathia prepare to pitch game 5 on Wednesday, and then move him up a day if they go down 2-1 after Monday night.
That plan is far, far, FAR worse than any non-supportable fear of Sabathia on 3 days rest.
What you’re proposing here Betsy, is much worse than what you’re trying to avoid – throwing Sabathia on 3 days rest 11th hour when he was preparing for 4.
And considering the Yankees play the first 2 games on the road, and will face Lee in Game 3, AT worst the Yankees have a 50/50 chance of being down either 2-1 or 3-0 for Game 4.
So while I disagree with those who say Burnett should pitch game 4 no matter what, I can acknowledge the argument.
But it makes NO sense to argue Sabathia should pitch Game 4, but ONLY if Yankees are behind.
Then you’re behind AND Sabathia is at a significant preparation disadvantage.
CR9 October 13th, 2010 at 2:29 pm
Genius ?
It is a big deal. I never doubted last year that Andy could go on 3 days rest ? he?s a veteran pitcher that?s been there, done that.
Phil Hughes is a 24 year old kid in his first full season as a starter. He?s surpassed his innings limit and will continue to the further we get into the playoffs. They will not risk the future of Phil. They also will not risk that Phil does not have his stuff on 3 days rest.
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Ok, so now you never doubted it because he is a veteran? Well, you and I might have been the only two that thought that last year. This has nothing to do with being a veteran
all of you who think the Yankees can move their rotation around based on the outcome of the previous game(s) just don’t understand how starting pitchers prepare.
Pitchers throw bullpen sessions two days before a start, that would mean CC would be throwing a bullpen on the day of game 3 if he were working on 4 days rest. Once he throws that bullpen he can’t pitch on short rest. So, technically, the Yankees could decide after the 2nd game to pitch him in game 4 but that is the last opportunity to make that decision. There is no way to wait for the outcome of game 3 to decide to throw him in game 4, it’s just not feasible.
The Yankees will decide what to do before game 3 starts. If they lose 2 in Texas I’m guessing he’ll go on 3 days rest but that isn’t something to look forward to seeing.
Before the Twins series I was more worried about pitching AJ.
In the Twins series, the Yanks looked like the team I thought they were back before the season started.
I don’t think they need to optimize every aspect to beat the Rangers. I see some advantages to pitching in regular rotation for the ALCS. If it goes 7, CC, Andy and Phil will pitch 6 of the 7 games, and they will have plenty in the tank for the WS, when pitching on short rest will be necessary.
Genius -
Having a second lefty in the pen, for the sake of having one, makes no sense, unless they believed he’d be very effective. They did not believe that to be the case. We have a solid pen that has the ability to get out both righties and lefties, so I think that’s a moot point.
As for the Yankees brain trust, I have all the respect and confidence in them, and put no such confidence in a blogger that thinks he knows better than the pros that have all the information at their finger tips.
We are all entitled to our opinion, that’s true, but, please don’t try and make it look as if you are better able to make critical decisions.
Phil’s home/road splits should be tossed out the window in light of his recent performances. If he makes the pitches, then he’s fine – that’s what it’s about. I like him in game 2/6 and Andy in 3/7, but if the Yanks throw him at home, I won’t complain – too much, lol.
Stuckey is correct…you don’t move him up at the last minute because you prepare with throwing, running, stretching etc… based on when you would pitch. this isn’t a reliever we are talking about and based on all the crazy days off, the only rhythm he has is to know the day he is pitching and lead up to that day.
Ok, I understand the preparation thing, but that means that AJ goes in game 4 no matter what……………..
MG -
I think the Yankees will set up their rotation to whatever they think gives them the best opportunity to win each individual game and that’s that. You can’t guarantee outcomes of any games. But they have the opportunity to set this whatever way they want AND not overstress any individual pitcher.
If they start saying, if we do this, then we’ll do that, they might as well go home right now.
I believe their mindset is that they have the chance to win every single game they play and that’s the way they’ll set it up.
Scratch that – MG, good points.
There’s no fear of pitching CC on short rest, it’s believing that there are 2 other pitchers on the staff that are up to the task.
Genius –
Yes. Along with the “Andy’s been there, done that” thought process, I also believed that Andy may have been in his last go-around and it would not matter if he got injured. Andy is a warrior and will do whatever’s necessary to help the team win.
Doreen October 13th, 2010 at 2:41 pm
MG -
I think the Yankees will set up their rotation to whatever they think gives them the best opportunity to win each individual game and that’s that. You can’t guarantee outcomes of any games. But they have the opportunity to set this whatever way they want AND not overstress any individual pitcher.
If they start saying, if we do this, then we’ll do that, they might as well go home right now.
I believe their mindset is that they have the chance to win every single game they play and that’s the way they’ll set it up.
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Doreen, I agree completely and think the Yankees will just go with CC, Andy or Phil, Phil or Andy, AJ, then repeat the rotation. Lots of posters forget about the ego of the professional athlete-these guys always believe they can beat anyone at any time-if they didn’t have that approach they would not be in the major leagues.
The Yankees will be fully prepared for every contingency possible. AJ is not the definite Game 4 starter. CC will go about his normal routine after Game 1; the Yankees will likely inform CC to be prepared to start a Game 4 – if they feel a Game 4 start may be necessary – with enough time for CC to be prepared for it. The Yankees WILL NOT inform a pitcher that he will have to start a playoff game at the last minute.
M, I don’t fear CC on short rest, but it’s not optimal and I just don’t see that it’s necessary. Andy will get 2 starts no matter what, but if the Yankees trust Phil, there’s no reason to start CC 3 times. I know he pitched well in the WS last year, but he wasn’t that sharp – just go back to the game threads from that time. He was somewhat tired – and no wonder.
When Girardi announces the rotation, then we’ll all know.
Then we can read all the reasons Girardi and Cashman don’t know what their doing etc.
Me, I’m rooting for whom ever is pitching and playing for the Yankees, and wishing for the best.
I’d rather spend my time thinking about how the Yankees are going to win, rather than trying to find ways to explain how and why they are going to lose, I’ll leave that up to the negative posters to take care of.
Big Al, I disagree about the lefty on a couple of fronts. 1) the Yankees didn’t go after another lefty to help them, so they obviously didn’t feel they were at a disadvantage without one. 2) Actually, having a lefty in the pen even a mediocre one DOES make a difference to the opposing manager because your “righty killer” who can’t hit lefties has to be used judiciously if the lefty is waiting for him. if you don’t have a lefty the opposing manager can do what he wants when he wants to. 3) What if Logan is used up and what if Logan is struggling? If so you are SOL. Ring has had success against Texas, albeit small sample sizes, but as Cashman said, “he has been getting lefties out all year.” If that is the case, then it makes sense to have him instead of some guy you will never use unless the game is a blowout. I made the same argument in the Twins series and we didn’t even need to use Joba, so why do you need a 3rd long man (or a 2nd if Burnett is starting)?
Ring may not pitch well, but that could happen to any of the guys as well, the point is you limit your options having only 1 lefty. Even the announcers in the last series mentioned it when Logan was gone how the opposing Gardenhire didn’t have to worry about when to pinch hit his lefties.
Could this all be moot? Sure, if the starters go to the 7th inning every time and our top relievers do the job, it won’t matter at all, but if that is the case, then why have Moseley on the team? I would never say drop one of our top 5 relievers for him (Rivera, Wood, DRob, Joba and Logan, but then you have Mitre, Moseley and Burnett? If I have to keep 3, there is NO question in my mind another lefty is one of the 3.
Genius -
The real point is this, if you bring Logan into the game to get out a tough lefty, most likely it’s very late in the game. If Logan is then followed by one of our top 3 RP, who do you sit in favor of Ring, D-Rob, Wood, Mo? Once Logan does his job, it would be rare to need another LRP. And, no, as a manager sitting across from the Yankees, I don’t fear them having a Ring in the pen, I might welcome them bring him in to face one of my top LH players.
Big Al, I was annoyed about Ring not being on the roster against Minnesota, but I predicted they would win in 4; we had a much better lineup than them. I haven’t done my breakdown yet of the Texas series, so I won’t throw it out there yet.
Keep in mind the Ring argument is not a huge part of the outcome of the series, the better players will make that happen, BUT, as is with so many items people ignore until it matters, it might matter and why not give yourself the best chance to win. Example: How many times does a play happen in football, such as not going out of bounds in football late in the game, and the team wins where nobody ever even thinks about and you here, they won anyway…98% of the time it won’t make a difference, but that 2% chance happens 1 out of every 50 “series” why not cover that base as well? the 2nd perfect example was the idiotic move Torre made pushing Mussinas start back against Boston when we were up 3-0. I was screaming how dumb it was an everyone said relax it won’t make a difference, I said, what if it goes 7 who will pitch? i was laughed at and lo and behold look who started game 7 for us! The 2% chances don’t happen often but they do happen!
Genius -
Seeing as I might be in the minority here, I have no love for Joe Torre. He was, IMO, one of the worst managers at handling the pitching stall, particularly the pen.
The example you give is one in which I believe the series was lost more by the manager than the players.
“Me, I’m rooting for whom ever is pitching and playing for the Yankees, and wishing for the best.
I’d rather spend my time thinking about how the Yankees are going to win, rather than trying to find ways to explain how and why they are going to lose, I’ll leave that up to the negative posters to take care of.”
I’m with you Big Al ….
I was at the clincher for the ALDS on Saturday …it was great !!! The Stadium was rocking and the guys looked good …especially Phil…he was terrific. The only embarrassment was that the “fans” booed Javy & AJ. I can never understand booing your own team most especially at a playoff introduction. You expect them to boo the other team (Mr. Pavano) but it was truly a sad statement booing their own players. Thankfully that was the only mar on the night …the rest went great…Kerry’s little hiccup not withstanding.
I’m hoping to see the clincher for the ALCS as I have tickets to Tuesday night’s game too. I know another sweep is asking a lot …but ..why not ??
Go Yankees 2010 !!
YEAH!! Buccigross just got called out on ESPN by McKendry. She called him a “bitter Red Sox fan.”
Guess what ESPN just made the distinction between? A World Series winning walkoff homer in Game 7 of the Series, and Game 6.
On the Mazeroski homer: “A home run that had not been seen before and has not been seen again.”
Perfect Game in World Series…..No Hitter in Game 1 of the ALDS, anyone?
Got to go, later folks.
Yes …I know that sweep could be contingent on AJ doing well. Here’s to AJ pitching the 2nd
game of his life (he pitched the first one last year in the World Series).
Go AJ !!!!
Go Yankees 2010 !!!
YEAH!! Buccigross just got called out on ESPN by McKendry. She called him a “bitter Red Sox fan.”
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Context?
Yanksgal07 October 13th, 2010 at 3:03 pm
I’m jealous! How great was that. I agree, it was sad, and uncalled for, the fans booing their own players, regardless of the tough season they had. Pro players are highly competitive, and want to succeed every game they play, and not doing well hurts them more than the fans. They feel they’ve let their team mates down as well. IMO, it was bush league to boo a Yankee at YS.
Here’s hoping you witness history again – Go Yankees.
Now, I must go for a shrt time.
Yanksgal07
Wow, lucky you!! Enjoy the ALCS
yeah, I don’t get the booing either
Yanksgal07 -
I love your outlook!
Context:
If I understood correctly, in a poll of the best pitcher remaining in the playoffs, CC got the least with 9%.
McKendry made a comment about the 9% being low, and Buccigross responded “But ya cant go against Halladay, Lee, or Lincecum”
So apparently according to the Bucci-disgusting, you can go against the only World Series champion of the 4 pitchers!!
“YEAH!! Buccigross just got called out on ESPN by McKendry. She called him a “bitter Red Sox fan.” ”
Let’s just hope Cliff Lee was watching…
If I am not mistaken, in his last five starts in Yankee Stadium, Cliff Lee is 5-0 with a 1.50 ERA. I hope we get him for one game and that’s it.
Actually, it is not rare and this is why it was brought by the announcers even in a series where we dominated them and got good starting pitching. And who says there isn’t a time where the righty starter needs to come out in the 5th/6th inning and the bases are loaded and Hamilton is up? Do you want to shoot your one bullet and bring in Logan here (might not be a bad idea), or do you want to wait until later? Hamilton is a guy you want to throw lefties at as he has an OPS of only .739 against lefties while an absurd 1.153 against righties (that is .401/447/716).
They also have these lefties with LR OPS splits where a lefty specialist would be worthy
David Murphy = .696/.847
Mitch Moreland = .604/.869
Britt_Ghiroli: In Arlington, where the “Yankees fear the Rangers” signs are scattered around the city.
CR9 October 13th, 2010 at 3:13 pm
Context:
If I understood correctly, in a poll of the best pitcher remaining in the playoffs, CC got the least with 9%.
McKendry made a comment about the 9% being low, and Buccigross responded “But ya cant go against Halladay, Lee, or Lincecum”
So apparently according to the Bucci-disgusting, you can go against the only World Series champion of the 4 pitchers!!
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I’m as big a yankee fan as there is but i would take halladay, lee or lincecum over sabathia in a heartbeat…..and i actually like sabathia – but buccigross – if that is what he was called out for – is 100% right….
btw CR9 as good as sabathia was in last years WS – he was outpitched by lee and had a no decision in the other game – hell i’d say AJ Burnett made a bigger contribution to the WS last year than CC did…
CC’s treatment by the national media is disgraceful. You could pick 1 million people and you’ll never find a better all-around guy, family man, teammate, and player than CC Sabathia. And yet he is disrespected and not given the credit that he is due because he plays for the Yankees.
Yanksgal07 you are correct! Why boo your own team? The only time I would say it is acceptable is when they don’t hustle or a really bad mental error, but any other time don;t you want them to do well?
“And who says there isn’t a time where the righty starter needs to come out in the 5th/6th inning and the bases are loaded and Hamilton is up?”
As if Joe would bring in Ring in that situation anyway…
lefty splits are fine, but not when the lefty you’re throwing is garbage. I also wouldn’t load up on Hamilton because he is injured. I’d rather have righties to face Guerrero and Nelson Cruz and Michael Young and Ian Kinsler.
Not to mention 4 of our starters are lefties.
Halladay is the best pitcher in baseball and has been for awhile in my opinion.
I love CC but Halladay is a better pitcher.
Hi All –
Kate – I did have a chance to go on that shoppong spree – now I want more!!!
Got out of the habit of checking in here when the Yankees were losing all those games and I didn’t want to have to read about the drama – I was always reading the posts, just staying out of the comments
Hope you all are doing well…so far so good this post season…
JackCurryYES A-Rod on facing Rangers, his old team: “No emotion. We have 4 games to win and that’s our goal.”
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Britt_Ghiroli: In Arlington, where the “Yankees fear the Rangers” signs are scattered around the city.
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I fear Texans. Many are drunk, armed and don’t give a s**t.
JackCurryYES A-Rod on facing Rangers, his old team: “No emotion. We have 4 games to win and that’s our goal.”
WC,
I don’t think anyone would argue that. The guy is a freak.
We will have righties Jerkface, our 4 best.
Erin
you need to be quicker now that Rishi is back
I know, like right..?
I mean I only hope CC Sabathia can find solace in his Word Series ring, 2009 ALCS MVP Award, 4th place finish in the 2009 Cy Young voting, no less than 3rd place finish this year, and his $161m dollar contract.
When a family man has to make due with just that, something is out of whack in society.
CR9,
This is the same national media that glorifies Teddy Losegame for not tipping his cap in his final game or refers to David Ortiz as an “ambassador” of baseball.
CC doesn’t need accolades though. He ihas $161 million and (at least 1) WS ring. And that is 1 more ring than Teddy Losegame or Altocraz Yazz
One of the biggest advantages provided by CC Sabbathia’s game is his ability to go on 3 days rest. It’s not abusing his arm, he handles it well. The Yankees can have one of the top 3 pitchers in baseball throwing 3 of their 7 games in a playoff series because they have him.
The biggest or second biggest problem with Yankee pitching all year has been AJ Burnett. What you’re doing by only pitching CC twice is losing a significant advantage over the Rangers, ie CC pitching 3 games, and give them a huge advantage in the game you pitch AJ. I’d almost rather see a bullpen game than an AJ game. That’s not to mention the positional advantage you throw away by having a personal catcher for your bad starter.
I don’t have all the information, but from what we do know I can’t imagine why the Yankees wouldn’t pitch CC 3x.
upstate kate October 13th, 2010 at 3:33 pm
Erin
you need to be quicker now that Rishi is back
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LOL
I know!
The basic problem with putting Ring on the roster, aside from the fact that the Yanks didn’t see fit to activate him until 9/15 which indicates something right there, is that in any situation where he would be useful, Joe wouldn’t use him.
Red Lobster – Where ya been?!! I’d argue that Sabathia is more valuable than Halladay. Id just have to do some research first.
stuckey – as BIG AL said, this pissing contest is not good for the blog – especially when Im pissing and you’re dribbling.
I expect fairness. I dont care if CC Sabathia has $48 billion, he deserves what he has earned.
How often did we use Coke anyway last year? He was the primary lefty through the first few games, then from Game 3 of the LCS on, he only pitched in games we were trailing. Besides, Ring didn’t show anything. If they were serious about him anyway, he would have been up on 9/1 not 9/15.
“I don’t have all the information, but from what we do know I can’t imagine why the Yankees wouldn’t pitch CC 3x.”
Rob, Sabathia pitching 3 times doesn’t prevent Burnett from pitching. Only having Pettitte or Hughes pitch on 3 days rest does Burnett get skipped.
On another note, given it some thought with Betsy advocating it, I could roll with CC/Hughes/Pettitte/CC/Burnett/Hughes (on 5 days rest)/Sabathia AND Pettitte (on full rest)
Though limited, Hughes has had success in Arlington, you do split up the lefties, and I like AP at the stadium against Lee. Pettitte might be more apt at keeping the Yankees in the game until the late innings, if Lee in on that night.
“stuckey – as BIG AL said, this pissing contest is not good for the blog – especially when Im pissing and you’re dribbling.
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I’m entertaining myself. You may do what you want and call it want you like.
“I expect fairness. I dont care if CC Sabathia has $48 billion, he deserves what he has earned.”
Fairness is only relevant if one cares what the media says or writes.
Fairness isn’t the problem, giving a crap either way is the shortcoming here.
stuckey – I will no longer be responding to you. Heroes make sacrifices. Because I am a hero, making you look like a fool is a sacrifice that I will grudgingly make.
There is something MUCH higher at stake! 28! Destiny!
Rob_NY October 13th, 2010 at 3:35 pm
One of the biggest advantages provided by CC Sabbathia’s game is his ability to go on 3 days rest. It’s not abusing his arm, he handles it well. The Yankees can have one of the top 3 pitchers in baseball throwing 3 of their 7 games in a playoff series because they have him.
The biggest or second biggest problem with Yankee pitching all year has been AJ Burnett. What you’re doing by only pitching CC twice is losing a significant advantage over the Rangers, ie CC pitching 3 games, and give them a huge advantage in the game you pitch AJ. I’d almost rather see a bullpen game than an AJ game. That’s not to mention the positional advantage you throw away by having a personal catcher for your bad starter.
I don’t have all the information, but from what we do know I can’t imagine why the Yankees wouldn’t pitch CC 3x.
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I was thinking the same exact thing….isn’t this one of the reasons they got him – his ability to pitch on 3 days rest when he is needed….whats the use of “resting” him in september when you aren’t going to reap the benefits come october….he’s had 8 day’s rest from the regular season to the alds and another 8 days from the alds to the alcs – so he’s pitched twice in 2 and a half weeks – have him pitch game #4 regardless of what happens in the first 3 games (unless the yankees are up 3-0 i would imagine) and then make him available for game#7 if needed – isn’t that what your $161 million ace should be doing?
enough of babying these pitchers – at least your friggen ace – he’s your ace for a reason – ride him until he says he’s had enough..would you have been surprised if girardi took cliff lee out after 7 innings last night – i know i wouldn’t….
RAB had a piece on the rotation. They seemed to think that Texas’ splits against righties and their propensity to hit better at home negates Phil’s numbers in Texas.
CR – I’ve been around, not much to say after smoking the Twins yet again. I’ve been lurking. Saw that you ordered A-Rod Centaur sheets
CC, Pettitte and Hughes pitching 6 times in a 7 game series should be more than enough for them to win. If they lose it won’t be because they had a lack of pitching fire power. It’ll be because the pitchers didn’t perform or the bats didn’t hit; not because of a lack of talent.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....id=5680821
Tim Kurkjian predicts the Yankees in 7.
So if Sabathia pitches a game 7, who pitches against Halladay?
New Post: Wayward pitches aside, Burnett happy with sim performance
“making you look like a fool is a sacrifice that I will grudgingly make.”
Like I need your help…
Yankees in 5, if that at all. If we lose a game it’s because someone on the Rangers is pitching out of his mind. I don’t necessarily think it will be Cliff Lee.
Bronx,
You made a joke about Adderol. Wastgat in re: to Cliff Lee?