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Cervelli gets the start in Game 4

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Oct 19, 2010 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Derek Jeter SS
Curtis Granderson CF
Mark Teixeira 1B
Alex Rodriguez 3B
Robinson Cano 2B
Nick Swisher RF
Lance Berkman DH
Brett Gardner LF
Francisco Cervelli C

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202 Responses to “Cervelli gets the start in Game 4”

  1. Carl October 19th, 2010 at 3:24 pm

    GL Yankees. Better start hitting. Tonight.

  2. LGY October 19th, 2010 at 3:24 pm

    Why is everyone so gung-ho on Greinke? Do you realize he has anxiety issues? NYC is NOT the place for that. Read some of the articles on it. At one point, it was real bad.

    You think AJ is a headcase? Just imagine what he’d be like pitching in front of 40,000 fans each start compared to 10,000. Not to mention the pressures and scrutiny that come with being a pitcher in NY.

    I hate the notion of some Yankees fans that think they are “entitled” to buy or trade for top pitchers “just because.” If the Royals wanted to trade Greinke, they might as well contract the rest of their team.

    ————————————–

    Are you inferring Greinke’s disorder makes him a “headcase?”

    If so, do you realize how degrading and cruel that is?

    There is no entitlement here. The Royals said they will be listening to offers for Greinke this offseason.

    Stay up with the news if you are going to try to call people out.

  3. Erin October 19th, 2010 at 3:24 pm

    My first post season GTLU loss. :(

  4. CountryClub October 19th, 2010 at 3:24 pm

    Un-freaking-believable

  5. jacksquat October 19th, 2010 at 3:25 pm

    AJ already has a song:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJjjDo5RQnU

    They should play this when he’s warming up, ha ha. :mrgreen:

  6. Erin October 19th, 2010 at 3:26 pm

    Maybe this will make people feel better:

    pcaldera Since start of ’08, Yanks are 17-4 immediately following a shutout.

  7. Shame Spencer October 19th, 2010 at 3:26 pm

    Is it wrong I’d still rather have Gardner 9th?

  8. Chambliss October 19th, 2010 at 3:27 pm

    Berkman should be the DH. He had been on fire in the postseason. I would rather see Posada pinch hit for Cervelli in the 3rd after AJ has been pulled.

  9. LGY October 19th, 2010 at 3:28 pm

    The issue with Cervelli tonight is that he doesn’t hit RHP.

    If a LHP was on the mound tonight this decision wouldn’t be nearly as questionable.

  10. Wave Your Hat October 19th, 2010 at 3:28 pm

    “Is it wrong I’d still rather have Gardner 9th?”

    Who are you, Tony LaRussa?

  11. UnKnown October 19th, 2010 at 3:29 pm

    Nice lineup. I wouldve flip flopped Gardner and Cervelli. Now you basically have Posada in the 9th spot. But works for me.

  12. upstate kate October 19th, 2010 at 3:29 pm

    Erin
    my first loss too

    My understanding, which admittedly could be wrong, is that social anxiety disorder is a problem w/ interpersonal interactions, not w/ large crowds of people you don’t know.

  13. Bring in the Goose October 19th, 2010 at 3:31 pm

    GTFP is now open

    Guess the First Pitch:

    1) Ball
    2) Strike
    3) Hit Batter
    4) Keith Olbermann’s mother’s head

  14. Oscar Madison October 19th, 2010 at 3:31 pm

    Cervelli is just not the answer. Posada must be pissed.

  15. SJ44 October 19th, 2010 at 3:31 pm

    LGY,

    The Yankees don’t need to save money.

    They do however, have to preserve prospects.

    Particularly, the high end guys like Banuelos, Montero, and Betances.

    Those are kind of prospects it would take to get Greinke.

    Lee is a better and smarter option for the Yankees IMO.

    Especially since I think Andy is retiring after this season.

    They need another lefty in the rotation.

  16. Wave Your Hat October 19th, 2010 at 3:31 pm

    I know the splits on Cervelli show him in a bad light vs LHP. However, Cervelli has been really hot since the beginning of August. Does anyone know his splits since then? I know vs Hunter Cervelli is 1-1 with a walk (can’t argue with that sample size!).

  17. Shame Spencer October 19th, 2010 at 3:32 pm

    Wave Your Hat October 19th, 2010 at 3:28 pm

    “Is it wrong I’d still rather have Gardner 9th?”

    Who are you, Tony LaRussa?

    ———————-

    I think I’d be a lot less attractive if I was… I hope.

  18. Bring in the Goose October 19th, 2010 at 3:32 pm

    I hope Cervelli can bunt.

    Someone on this team needs to learn how.

    Gardner gets on base, steals 2nd against Hunter (like the odds), bunt to 3rd.

  19. RMS October 19th, 2010 at 3:32 pm

    “Is it wrong I’d still rather have Gardner 9th?”

    Gardner 9th, Posada 7th.

    AJ can be great or terrible. Doesn’t matter who is catching. Cervelli should sit.
    If AJ pitched like Greg Maddox, then he can have his own catcher.

  20. West Coast Yankee Fan October 19th, 2010 at 3:33 pm

    One can try to spin the statistics on Brett Gardner’s second half any way the like. The reality is that he has steadily regressed.

    July – .221/.375

    August – .244/.363

    September/October – .231/.351

    Post-season – .222/.286

  21. sunny615 October 19th, 2010 at 3:33 pm

    Melky released by the braves.

    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....8;c_id=mlb

    When the Braves landed Melky Cabrera in a four-player trade with the Yankees in December, they envisioned him as a serviceable fourth outfielder. Looking toward the 2011 season, Cabrera is no longer a part of their plans.

    The Braves on Monday released Cabrera and right-handed reliever Takashi Saito. They have also removed Minor League catcher J.C. Boscan from their 40-man roster.

    Cabrera hit .255 with four homers and a .671 OPS in 147 games with the Braves this year. While taking some bad routes and sometimes looking lackadaisical in the field, he also proved to be a defensive disappointment.

    The 26-year-old outfielder has one arbitration-eligible season remaining and stood as a prime candidate to be non-tendered. He made $3.1 million this past season. In 2009, he hit .274 with 13 homers and a .752 OPS while playing 154 games for the World Series-champion Yankees.

    “When we acquired him we knew that he would be around for just one season,” Braves general manager Frank Wren said. “With the arbitration situation, we knew that he would likely only be around for one year.”

  22. GreenBeret7 October 19th, 2010 at 3:34 pm

    Greinke was signed to a long term contract extension with a limited no trade contract. The problem is that he can demand a trade after 1 year and his contract is up after 2012. With zero guarantees that he could be resigned, no way to you trade a bundle of young talent for 1 year, especially given that his ERA jumped by 2 runs, strikeouts dropped by 60, hits jumped by 50 as did the amount of runs and earned runs. Hardly inspiring.

  23. Bret The Hitman October 19th, 2010 at 3:34 pm

    Pre-emptive Ruby Tuesday impersonation.

    This is our season :(

  24. Cashmoney October 19th, 2010 at 3:34 pm

    Cashmoney October 19th, 2010 at 3:31 pm
    When I find myself in times of trouble, mother Eiland comes to me,
    speaking words of wisdom, let it fly AJ.
    And in my hour of darkness Eiland is standing right in front of me,
    Padding my bum with purpose, Let it fly AJ.

    Let it be, let it fly, let it fly, let it fly.
    Whisper words of soft love, let it fly.
    please pad my bum hard Eiland, Let me fly!

    And when the broken hearted Yankee people living in the world agree,
    there will be an answer, let it fly.
    For though they may be parted there is still a chance that they will see me shine,
    there will be an answer. let it fly

    By Eiland Record
    Artists- the crackatles

  25. Oscar Madison October 19th, 2010 at 3:34 pm

    ‘BALL’, gets past Cervelli and goes to the backstop. Later in the 1st inning Vlady homers on a ‘mistake’ pitch by AJ.

  26. Erica in NY October 19th, 2010 at 3:34 pm

    I am sorry to report that in a massive postseason GTLU upset……

    Joe Girardi was our winner today.

    And here you all thought postseason GTLU was getting too easy!

  27. LGY October 19th, 2010 at 3:34 pm

    SJ,

    Saving money is more in regard to long term flexibility. Not necessarily saving money, but having extra money to improve/plug holes as players age.

    If Andy retires I absolutely want Lee over Greinke. I should have said this, but I am factoring in Andy returning.

    Before today I was always all in for Lee, today I’m leaning a bit the other way, because I think it is an interesting question.

    Also, trying to spur some discussion on here today (but don’t tell that’s part of my motivation ;) )

  28. GreenBeret7 October 19th, 2010 at 3:35 pm

    Cervelli hits well enough for a backup catcher. He doesn’t play defense well enough, though.

  29. Erica in NY October 19th, 2010 at 3:36 pm

    upstate kate October 19th, 2010 at 2:48 pm
    to be fair to Erica, most of the Johnny D conversations did not involve her

    *************

    Thanks Upstate Kate :-)

    Its actually kind of funny that I am never actually never the person who brings him up.

  30. jackamir October 19th, 2010 at 3:37 pm

    As much as i can’t stand Cervelli, I think Posada sitting is the right move. Posada will see action in this game but his tenure is over as a starting catcher. Next season we will gracefully end his time in pinstripes. He has been a great Yankee but father time has caught up with him. Too bad; I just hope he won’t be a disruptive force on his way out. It is well known that Posada and Girardi don’t care for each other.

  31. LGY October 19th, 2010 at 3:37 pm

    “Greinke was signed to a long term contract extension with a limited no trade contract. The problem is that he can demand a trade after 1 year and his contract is up after 2012. With zero guarantees that he could be resigned, no way to you trade a bundle of young talent for 1 year, especially given that his ERA jumped by 2 runs, strikeouts dropped by 60, hits jumped by 50 as did the amount of runs and earned runs. Hardly inspiring.”

    ——————————-

    I’m not sure I understand.

    Greinke can demand a trade after 2011 as part of his contract?

  32. Erin October 19th, 2010 at 3:37 pm

    YankeesWFAN Rangers hitters are combined 43 for 206 (.209 BA) vs Burnett. Guerrero is 12 for 50 with 2 HR reg season, 1 for 6 in last yr’s ALCS.

  33. Wave Your Hat October 19th, 2010 at 3:37 pm

    The Yanks will go all out for Lee, and they’ll re-sign Andy, I think. They will need to save money somewhere but my crystal ball is hazy on that right now.

  34. YankeeBlue222 October 19th, 2010 at 3:37 pm

    LGY October 19th, 2010 at 3:24 pm
    There is no entitlement here. The Royals said they will be listening to offers for Greinke this offseason.
    Stay up with the news if you are going to try to call people out.
    ********
    Exactly. Just because they are listening to offers doesn’t mean that it should be the Yankees that gets him (as some people point out).

    I’d be very wary. As SJ states, Lee is the best bet. Only costs money and has the track record.

    Jeff Weaver was once a young pitcher who had good stuff and numbers playing for a mediocre team. How did that work out?

    The Yankees have the money. There’s no need to give away top prospects for the unknown.

  35. upstate kate October 19th, 2010 at 3:38 pm

    Cashmoney
    clever, especially the Eiland records part :)

  36. LGY October 19th, 2010 at 3:38 pm

    “One can try to spin the statistics on Brett Gardner’s second half any way the like. The reality is that he has steadily regressed.”

    —————————————

    Aside from 10 days at the beginning of August Gardner got on base at a 400+ clip Post ASB.

    His average was obviously poor in the 2nd half, but you don’t think his injury played a significant role in that?

  37. sunny615 October 19th, 2010 at 3:38 pm

    Times like these – I wish we still had Molina…

  38. Erin October 19th, 2010 at 3:39 pm

    YankeesWFAN Cervelli catching isn’t about AJ “deserving” personal catcher. Its about comfort. Posada caught him once after ASB. There’s reason for that.

  39. Wave Your Hat October 19th, 2010 at 3:40 pm

    “I think I’d be a lot less attractive if I was… I hope.”

    Shame, I am confident you beat Tony L in the looks department. :)

  40. West Coast Yankee Fan October 19th, 2010 at 3:40 pm

    Francesa just reported that Greinke doesn’t want to go to NY or Boston.

  41. 108 stitches October 19th, 2010 at 3:40 pm

    Mitre threw only 5 pitches last night. A duo of him and Mosely should carry the Yankees to the 7th inning with Burnett departing after the 3rd inning. Need the Yankees run scoring machine to show up to do no worse than equalize the damage left by Burnett.

  42. GreenBeret7 October 19th, 2010 at 3:40 pm

    Any player that’s traded in the middle of a long term contract can demand a trade.

  43. Bronx Jeers October 19th, 2010 at 3:40 pm

    Probably 1/3 of NYC has anxiety issues.

    The other 2/3 are outright crazy. You should consider yourself lucky if you only have anxiety.

  44. LGY October 19th, 2010 at 3:41 pm

    When was Jeff Weaver a nice young pitcher?

  45. ac1 October 19th, 2010 at 3:42 pm

    people are really going to complain about cervelli, like Posada has been mashing the ball or even being servicable behind the plate?

    I dont think Cervelli is really the issue here.

    How bout our hitters, being unable to hit? Don’t really think Cervelli can make things worse than they were yesterday.

  46. G. Love October 19th, 2010 at 3:42 pm

    Unbelievable. The worst pitcher in our rotation gets a personal catcher against a RHP who Jorge could pop one over the wall against.

    Stunned. Now that the Cubs job is gone to fall back on Girardi shouldn’t be so obstinate.

    Cervelli better play well tonight. If any of that jumping matador nonsense behind the plate tonight lets in a run, he’ll be joining Melky on the free agent list.

  47. Bret The Hitman October 19th, 2010 at 3:44 pm

    What are the odds Melky becomes the 4th OF next year instead of Curtis or Kearns?

  48. ac1 October 19th, 2010 at 3:44 pm

    Unbelievable. The worst pitcher in our rotation gets a personal catcher against a RHP who Jorge could pop one over the wall against
    __

    Yeah Posada is really been carrying us here. Get over it!

  49. Bring in the Goose October 19th, 2010 at 3:44 pm

    Repost:

    Last time AJ threw off a mound he drilled two of his own players, and his first pitch hit the backstop screen.

    Any hunch I have is that he is at least so-so. No way he rebounds from that and is strong.

    This is going to be one of these games:

    AJ: 3.2IP, 3ER, 3BB, 3K, 1HR

    Dustin: 2.1IP, 2ER, 1BB, 4K

    Joba: 1IP, 1ER, 1H, 1K, 1HR

    Boone: .1IP, 1H, 1K

    Kerry: .2IP, 1H,

    Mariano: 1IP, 1K

    NYY: 7, TEX: 6

    I honestly believe we?ll need to score 7 runs.

    The long ball will be needed tonight, and early.

  50. ac1 October 19th, 2010 at 3:45 pm

    What are the odds Melky becomes the 4th OF next year instead of Curtis or Kearns?

    __

    He is a cheap option and knows how to play here. I think it would be a good move, just make him and Cano live separately :)

  51. West Coast Yankee Fan October 19th, 2010 at 3:45 pm

    I wonder how many walls Jorge has kicked so far? Man I bet he is not a happy camper.

  52. Bring in the Goose October 19th, 2010 at 3:45 pm

    I have to think that I’ve liked the Robby without Melky.

    Melky will land somewhere else.

    His time with NY is over.

  53. mrpappageorgio October 19th, 2010 at 3:45 pm

    I guarantee the first time we get a runner in scoring position, Cervelli will be at the plate with 2 outs. He will strike out.

  54. austinmac October 19th, 2010 at 3:45 pm

    West Coast,

    I have heard that about Greinke. It makes sense for him. This off-season will be a big problem if Lee goes elsewhere.

  55. Bronx Jeers October 19th, 2010 at 3:46 pm

    Padding my bum with purpose,….

    ————————————————-

    I like that. Lot’s of good song parodies the last couple of days.

  56. Bret The Hitman October 19th, 2010 at 3:47 pm

    Not so sure about that…the Yankees lack OF depth in the minors. Melky is only 26. Apparently the Braves knew Melky would be a 1 year player because of his arbitration raise from 3 mil. If the Braves pegged him as a non-tender candidate, so did Cashman when he traded him.

  57. LGY October 19th, 2010 at 3:47 pm

    GB7,

    I was under the impression they got rid of that rule in the current CBA.

  58. Wave Your Hat October 19th, 2010 at 3:48 pm

    My guess is the Yank 4th and 5th OFs next year will be minimum salary types.

  59. LGY October 19th, 2010 at 3:49 pm

    WCYF,

    Can you elaborate a bit on what Francessa said in regard to Greinke?

  60. YankeeBlue222 October 19th, 2010 at 3:49 pm

    LGY October 19th, 2010 at 3:41 pm
    When was Jeff Weaver a nice young pitcher?
    *******
    Considering he played for horrible Tigers teams, I’d say his 2000-2002 (pre-Yankees trade) were pretty impressive and indicated a young pitcher who was only going to get better.

    http://www.baseball-reference......je01.shtml

    Regardless, I was just making the point that it’s risky to trade the farm for a young pitcher who’s only had a few good years.

  61. Shame Spencer October 19th, 2010 at 3:49 pm

    I’m gonna go ahead with a prediction since everyone else is (and because I’m bitter about losing GTLU… again!): AJ goes 5 innings tonight. (I’m thinking 4 and change.. he starts the 5th and is pulled with a man in scoring position).

  62. Carl October 19th, 2010 at 3:49 pm

    If the Yanks pitch like that, game over.

  63. RMS October 19th, 2010 at 3:50 pm

    Please don’t compare Posada and Cervelli as far as hitting. They need Posada’s bat in the line-up.

  64. Bret The Hitman October 19th, 2010 at 3:51 pm

    How much is Melky worth at this point as a non-tender?

    1 mil if that?

  65. G. Love October 19th, 2010 at 3:51 pm

    Melky’s got as much a chance of coming back here as Clemens does.

    They will not risk Cano’s career on Melky Cabrera.

  66. upstate kate October 19th, 2010 at 3:51 pm

    I am going to make a prediction that Cervelli comes up w/ a big hit, or makes a big play.

  67. BTX October 19th, 2010 at 3:52 pm

    No problem with this decision… with the ABs that Posada is having, can Cervelli be worse?

    We can also use Cervelli’s defense and arm.

  68. Bring in the Goose October 19th, 2010 at 3:53 pm

    Posada will be a part of this game. Ph’ing late.

    Pray he channels his frustration for that moment.

  69. Bring in the Goose October 19th, 2010 at 3:53 pm

    Should have a thread here on Who is Tommy Hunter?

  70. Chambliss October 19th, 2010 at 3:54 pm

    The issue with Cervelli is that he can’t hit and he is not a very good catcher.

    I hope that Mosely is warming up in the first inning so he is ready to relieve Burnett. sorry for being so negative, but Burnett has done nothing over the past two months to deserve the faith that many others are placing in him.

  71. Niblick October 19th, 2010 at 3:55 pm

    Girardi still can’t stand Jorge because Jorge took his job. You can tell by the way Joe G talks (or doesn’t) talk about Jorge in his pre-game and post-game press conferences.

    I just hope they can get AJ out of the game quickly, Jorge can come in to pinch hit and catch, and some real pitchers and players can win the game for the Yanks.

    AJ and Cervelli in game 4 of the ALCS? WHAT A JOKE.

  72. blake October 19th, 2010 at 3:56 pm

    Considering that Posada hasn’t caught AJ all year….I don’t think they had much of a choice tonight. You need him to pitch well and throwing him out there with a catcher he hasn’t worked with all year is probably not the best idea….now the fact that that’s the case is up for critism IMO…posada should have caught him occasionally throughout the season.

    Also, I really hope Andy doesn’t retire.

  73. Chambliss October 19th, 2010 at 3:56 pm

    Posada is not hitting well lately, but he is still a great hitter who could break out at any moment. Cervelli’s hitting talent is very limited. What you see is what you get.

  74. ry81 October 19th, 2010 at 3:56 pm

    I agree not worried about Cervelli . He was hitting and been working with k long and plus posada hasn’t done anything amazing why not give him a change ?! Plus he’s better with AJ . AJ trusts him

  75. Mike_Boston October 19th, 2010 at 3:56 pm

    # mrpappageorgio October 19th, 2010 at 3:45 pm

    I guarantee the first time we get a runner in scoring position, Cervelli will be at the plate with 2 outs. He will strike out.
    —————————————————————–

    Have you been watching this season?? Cervelli’s hitting over .400 in that exact situation, without looking at the numbers I think he leads the team in that stat! I’m not saying he’s a better hitter than Jorgie, just saying he’s not as bad as his overall numbers when it counts.

  76. Bret The Hitman October 19th, 2010 at 3:58 pm

    I wish Girardi told Burnett point blank – “Short hook tonight. We believe you can succeed and that’s why we’re giving you the ball. But short hook. Don’t take it personally.”

  77. LGY October 19th, 2010 at 3:59 pm

    GB7,

    I found an article confirming.

    “Players traded in the middle of a multi-year contract no longer have the right to demand a trade. Players who currently hold that right from the last CBA are grandfathered in and can still demand a trade.”

    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....8;c_id=mlb

  78. 108 stitches October 19th, 2010 at 4:00 pm

    Bret The Hitman October 19th, 2010 at 3:44 pm
    What are the odds Melky becomes the 4th OF next year instead of Curtis or Kearns?

    ………………………………………………..

    None of the above. The contenders for a a 4th OF spot in spring training will be Greg Golson and Brandon Laird. At the present time, Laird is in the Arizona Fall League to work on his OF skills.

  79. Crash October 19th, 2010 at 4:01 pm

    If Burnett is awful Cervelli will get at most 1 at bat. He pitches well than the yanks really have no worries. Teix, A-Rod, Jeter, Swish, Granderson should hit Hunter.

  80. Niblick October 19th, 2010 at 4:01 pm

    The thing is that AJ has not pitched well to Cervelli this year. So to say that AJ has to pitch to Cervelli is ridiculous. And to allow a mediocre, bad attitude, pitcher to run the team is even more ridiculous.

    But then again, with AJ’s track record, it probably doesn’t matter if he was pitching to a pitchback; the balls are either going in the dirt, to the screen, or out of the park. Let’s hope Joe has someone warming in the first inning.

  81. EliasInNH October 19th, 2010 at 4:02 pm

    lol Francesa interviewing the FOX suit about the Cablevision dispute. It’s funny as hell. The FOX guy is a complete idiot.

  82. ac1 October 19th, 2010 at 4:02 pm

    My guess is the Yank 4th and 5th OFs next year will be minimum salary types.

    __

    this worked so well this year. Thames was good, but terrible in the field, and no one else we brought in or up did anything.

  83. icebird753 October 19th, 2010 at 4:02 pm

    fukledunkle. they are in a world of trouble, it seems. but they can still do this!

  84. Yankee Trader October 19th, 2010 at 4:03 pm

    We can also use Cervelli’s defense and arm.
    ——————————————-

    Yankees have one of the worst catching tandems at throwing runners out, and the worst starter going tonight in holding runners on.

    This is one area that needs addressed in the offseason.

    If Lee isn’t signed and Pettitte retires, if you’re going to trade away top prospects, IMO, look for an elite “lefty” starter, like a Clayton Kershaw.

  85. BTX October 19th, 2010 at 4:04 pm

    “I wish Girardi told Burnett point blank – “Short hook tonight. We believe you can succeed and that’s why we’re giving you the ball. But short hook. Don’t take it personally.””

    I think AJ will get the message when he sees Mitre/Mosely/Joba warming up along aside him.

  86. Chambliss October 19th, 2010 at 4:04 pm

    I would give the MelkMan another shot. He played well in his short time with the Yankees. He came through on more than once occasion in the clutch last year. I was at the game in April when he hit the walkoff homer in extra innings.

    I don’t know what happened in Atlanta, but Melky has the potential to be a very good 4th outfielder. Who would you rather have on the ALCS roster, Kearns or Melky?

  87. ac1 October 19th, 2010 at 4:04 pm

    Girardi still can’t stand Jorge because Jorge took his job. You can tell by the way Joe G talks (or doesn’t) talk about Jorge in his pre-game and post-game press conferences.
    ___

    This is just a dumb and baseless assertion.

    Trust me, if Posada was contributing, he would be in there tonight and not Cervelli, but so far we have gotten a bloop single, and nothing else except some really boneheaded catching plays in game 1.

  88. Wave Your Hat October 19th, 2010 at 4:05 pm

    I would have preferred Moseley starting and Posada catching to AJ starting and Cervelli catching.

    However, AJ is starting and it has been obvious for at least a month if not longer that if AJ got a start Cervelli would catch him. Complaining now is pointless.

    Besides, Cervelli has been hitting well the last two months, he can bunt and hit and run. It isn’t that huge an issue.

  89. champ809 October 19th, 2010 at 4:05 pm

    Chad Curtis will be the 4th OF’er before Melkman comes back next year.

    Lee will be signed faster than Cano turned on that pitch from Lewis in game 2.

    Greinke should stay in KC where he’s comfortable and I’m sure he’ll feel a lot better about them next year when Moustakas and Hosmer come up and some of the young pitching gets up there next June….hell he may be interested to the point that he wins another CY….but he’ll have to beat out Hughes,CC and Lee to do it!

    Robbie carries us tonight long enough for ARod or Tex to join the party.

    Grandy gives the icing on the cake.

  90. Bring in the Goose October 19th, 2010 at 4:06 pm

    Arod will continue to struggle unless Tex starts hitting, as he’ll see nothing to hit and press.

    Tired of continuing on and on about Tex, but he really needs to step up.

    Blast that hook, Tex – you have to know it’s coming by now.

  91. ac1 October 19th, 2010 at 4:06 pm

    I don’t know what happened in Atlanta, but Melky has the potential to be a very good 4th outfielder. Who would you rather have on the ALCS roster, Kearns or Melky?

    __

    Brandon Laird is interesting but we dont know they he will be ready in 2011.

    What we do know is Melky was let go so he won’t be getting 3M next year, plus he is a better option than anything we put out there after the starting three.

  92. The Genius Maker October 19th, 2010 at 4:06 pm

    Girardi just lost his job! and with the Cubs hiring their manager he is SOL. This is asinine! Could it work out, yes, anything can, but starting Cervelli’s is lunacy. the offense is struggling and Posada got one of our 2 hits last night. Posada is so much better against righties .800 OPS to .620. Cervelli’s has been awful defensively this year throwing worse than Posada. he also does not call a good game and he surely has not helped AJ this year!!! WTF are they thinking. Starting Burnett is now even more screwed up. Girardi is freaking clueless

  93. LGY October 19th, 2010 at 4:06 pm

    Think Phil Hughes is a HR machine especially at Yankee Stadium?

    Phil Hughes gave up 25 taters in 176 innings.

    Tommy Hunter gave up 21 in 128 innings.

    Look for the longball tonight.

  94. Erin October 19th, 2010 at 4:07 pm

    BryanHoch Girardi says he’s a big believer in catcher-pitcher relationships. Thinks Burnett and Cervelli will work together well.

    BryanHoch Cervelli hasn’t played in a game since Oct. 2, but he did catch the simulated games. Girardi said that gives him only about five days rest.

  95. ConcernedCitizen October 19th, 2010 at 4:07 pm

    Repost… I just got to the stadium and was immediately interviewed by nbc and abc. I said AJ is due for a good start and the bats will wake up tonight. The guys better not embarass me tonight :)

  96. ac1 October 19th, 2010 at 4:07 pm

    Chad Curtis will be the 4th OF’er before Melkman comes back next year
    __

    Didnt CHAD Curtis play for us in the late 90s?

    I think you mean Colin Curtis, but i still like what i see from Melky in NY better, plus he is a switch hitter, and we saw how overmatched Curtis looked in September.

  97. The Genius Maker October 19th, 2010 at 4:07 pm

    The decision to start AJ is even worse now. I am tried of bad decisions after bad decisions being made. No consistency and no logic is used.

  98. Crash October 19th, 2010 at 4:08 pm

    Melky was awful this year. Why would people want him back?

  99. Wave Your Hat October 19th, 2010 at 4:08 pm

    “Posada is so much better against righties .800 OPS to .620.”

    I heard that. But what have the comparative splits been since the beginning of August?

    I can’t find that info, but I suspect much, much closer.

  100. ac1 October 19th, 2010 at 4:08 pm

    the offense is struggling and Posada got one of our 2 hits last
    __

    It was a bloop single. Lets not make it more than it was. He also stood and stares at fastballs down the middle, and swung through MANY outside fastballs.

  101. The Other Phil October 19th, 2010 at 4:09 pm

    As usual, people killing Girardi for a game as yet unplayed.

    If Cervelli is what it takes to make AJ feel more comfortable, especially given his long layoff, I’m all for it. It’s been said before, but I’ll reiterate: if Cervelli’s bat is the difference in this game, the line up has bigger issues than Cervelli’s bat. (which it currently seems to…)

  102. ac1 October 19th, 2010 at 4:09 pm

    Melky was awful this year. Why would people want him back?

    __

    Because he was better in NY?

    Sometimes it really is about where you play and who coaches you.

  103. Cashman needs to go October 19th, 2010 at 4:10 pm

    West Coast Yankee Fan October 19th, 2010 at 3:33 pm
    One can try to spin the statistics on Brett Gardner’s second half any way the like. The reality is that he has steadily regressed.

    July – .221/.375

    August – .244/.363

    September/October – .231/.351

    Post-season – .222/.286
    *****************

    What bothers me most about Gardner is that he has HORRIBLE baserunning instincts..

    Case in point last night – he steals second and for him thats the end of the play – he doesn’t have the instincts (or maybe its the intelligence) to see where the ball is (in this case it was rolling into rightcenterfield) – all fast baserunners have that extra instinct to look for the ball and take advantage even if its rolling just 10 feet off the base…players with speed, and not much else (like gardner), need to take advantage of plays like that and go take that extra base – especially in a game where the yankees aren’t hitting much….

    of course the flip side of that argument is he was 1 of only 2 players to get a hit…

  104. Niblick October 19th, 2010 at 4:10 pm

    ac: it’s neither dumb nor baseless. Just listen to Joe G.

    By the way, I guess you haven’t noticed, but I’m not seeing much “production” out of anyone but Robbie these days anyway.

    If Joe wants to go down in flames with AJ and his personal catcher Cervelli, then it’s his prerogative to do so. But it’s wrong and he shouldn’t be allowed to take the team down with him.

  105. Shame Spencer October 19th, 2010 at 4:10 pm

    This is my shot at a song:

    The Pitcher’s Back (sung to the tune of: The B*tch is Back)

    It was justified when I was dropped to 5
    Raised in Arkansas, punched in the eye
    Times are changing, now depend on that
    ‘Cause Cervi’s gonna catch you when the pitcher’s back oh oh oh!

    Eat chicken on Tuesday that’s alright
    It won’t matter when I’m pitchin’ tonight
    I can pitch the best at your baseball do’s
    I get high in the evening striking out a few oh oh oh!

    I can pitch, I can pitch
    Oh the pitcher’s back
    Getting’ the ball over as a matter of fact
    I can pitch, I can pitch
    ‘Cause I’m better than you
    It’s the way the ball moves
    With the things that I do oh oh oh!

    I entertain by winning games
    Sell my soul by droppin’ the same
    4seam fastballs, but I won’t do that!
    Oh it’s done with nasty habits when the pitcher’s back oh oh oh!

    I can pitch, I can pitch
    Oh the pitcher’s back
    Getting’ the ball over as a matter of fact
    I can pitch, I can pitch
    ‘Cause I’m better than you
    It’s the way the ball moves
    With the things that I do oh oh oh!

  106. Cashmoney October 19th, 2010 at 4:11 pm

    You people needs to chill with this Posada and Cervelli thingie.

  107. ac1 October 19th, 2010 at 4:11 pm

    Girardi just lost his job! and with the Cubs hiring their manager he is SOL. This is asinine! Could it work out, yes, anything can, but starting Cervelli’s is lunacy. the offense is struggling and Posada got one of our 2 hits last night. Posada is so much better against righties .800 OPS to .620. Cervelli’s has been awful defensively this year throwing worse than Posada. he also does not call a good game and he surely has not helped AJ this year!!! WTF are they thinking. Starting Burnett is now even more screwed up. Girardi is freaking clueless

    ___

    Only in your mind did Girardi lose his job. In the real world, he still has the support of the organization. I think if Cashman felt differently, he would tell Girardi what to do.

  108. upstate kate October 19th, 2010 at 4:12 pm

    good points the Other Phil…and I hardly think Girardi makes these decisions in a vacuum.

  109. ac1 October 19th, 2010 at 4:12 pm

    Niblick October 19th, 2010 at 4:10 pm
    ac: it’s neither dumb nor baseless. Just listen to Joe G.

    By the way, I guess you haven’t noticed, but I’m not seeing much “production” out of anyone but Robbie these days anyway.

    If Joe wants to go down in flames with AJ and his personal catcher Cervelli, then it’s his prerogative to do so. But it’s wrong and he shouldn’t be allowed to take the team down with him.

    __

    HAAAAAAAAA

    Taking the team down? You mean the team that had two singles last night? The team that had Pettitte starting and Posada catching? The team that did NOT have Burnett or Cervelli anywhere near the field?

    That’s the team that Girardi, AJ and Cervelli is bringing down?

  110. Rich in NJ October 19th, 2010 at 4:12 pm

    Using Cervelli is idiotic.

  111. Erin October 19th, 2010 at 4:13 pm

    Shame Spencer-love the song! :)

  112. djsunyc October 19th, 2010 at 4:13 pm

    so will the mob be screaming “YEAH AJ” or “FIRE GIRARDI” tomorrow?

  113. upstate kate October 19th, 2010 at 4:13 pm

    LOL Shame, nicely done

  114. LGY October 19th, 2010 at 4:13 pm

    “What bothers me most about Gardner is that he has HORRIBLE baserunning instincts..”

    ——————————–

    Gardner stole 47 bases this year at an 84% success rate.

    I have a hard time believe he has horrible baserunning instincts given how successful he was this season running the bases.

    He would have been dead in the water half way to third base if he tried to take the extra bag when the ball trickled past him.

    Trying to take third on that play?

    Now THAT would have been horrible baserunning.

  115. ET October 19th, 2010 at 4:13 pm

    Posada/Cervelli/AJ = non-story

    How about they score some freakin runs against the Sidney Ponson-look alike?

  116. Patrick October 19th, 2010 at 4:14 pm

    Starting Cervelli is an incredibly stupid decision. That’s all I have to say really

  117. The Other Phil October 19th, 2010 at 4:14 pm

    Cashman needs to go October 19th, 2010 at 4:10 pm

    What bothers me most about Gardner is that he has HORRIBLE baserunning instincts..

    Case in point last night – he steals second and for him thats the end of the play – he doesn’t have the instincts (or maybe its the intelligence) to see where the ball is (in this case it was rolling into rightcenterfield) – all fast baserunners have that extra instinct to look for the ball and take advantage even if its rolling just 10 feet off the base…players with speed, and not much else (like gardner), need to take advantage of plays like that and go take that extra base – especially in a game where the yankees aren’t hitting much….

    of course the flip side of that argument is he was 1 of only 2 players to get a hit…
    =================

    If you go back and look at the play, the ball did not travel very far and he would probably have been thrown out going to 3rd. He did look and see where the ball was, but Kinsler was nearly on top of it by the time Gardner would have been on the move. It would have put pressure on Kinsler to make a throw, but with the way the offense was massively struggling, I don’t think it would have been the right move.

    You have to figure that Jeter will do his job and move the runner to 3rd, but he didn’t get it done.

    Gardner does need to improve his game at the plate (bunting especially) and I would definitely like to see him be more aggressive, but he’s talked about his SB philosophy as one of not stealing 90 to be caught 40. If it’s something that Cash and JoeG want him to change in the off season, I’m sure they’ll discuss it with him.

  118. upstate kate October 19th, 2010 at 4:15 pm

    if AJ is as bad as some of you expect, than Po will be used as a PH

  119. West Coast Yankee Fan October 19th, 2010 at 4:16 pm

    LGY October 19th, 2010 at 3:49 pm

    WCYF, Can you elaborate a bit on what Francessa said in regard to Greinke?

    *************

    Paraphrasing. He was talking to Peter Gammons and said something to the effect that he heard Boston and New York and I think Philly as well would be on his no-trade list. It was mentioned that Minnesota was where he wanted to go.

  120. Red Lobster October 19th, 2010 at 4:16 pm

    At least AJ is a good pitcher. Imagine of that bum Javy Vazquez was starting tonight?

  121. Shame Spencer October 19th, 2010 at 4:17 pm

    Thanks Erin and upstate kate!

    I hope trisha likes it. I have class tonight and should be home by game time, but I don’t usually lurk around the blog in the PM hours, so if someone could be sure she reviews it I’d appreciate it :D I could use some constructive criticism (because if we win tonight I’ll have to write one of these for every game..).

  122. blackaccord October 19th, 2010 at 4:19 pm

    in fantasy world, AJ goes 8 innings of 2 hit ball with 10 ks and no walks…
    Cisco goes 3-3 with 2 Hrs and a double..

    In real world, AJ goes 2-2/3 gives up 5 hits and 3 walks with a wild pitch.. leaves with the bases loaded and 2 outs..
    Cisco goes 0-3 with 2 ks…

    Remember just because AJ is out of the game doesnt mean posada will automatically be in… They dont have a third catcher and hence posada might come only in only for late pinch hitting situations..

  123. Don Vito A. Bellamo October 19th, 2010 at 4:19 pm

    If Cervelli makes AJ pitch a good game, then him in the 9 spot is a moot point. If AJ gets knocked out, the Posada is available and the offense is going to break out tonight, so none of it matters anyHoo ! :-)

  124. Don Vito A. Bellamo October 19th, 2010 at 4:21 pm

    Girardi can catch, right ? ;-)

  125. Oscar Madison October 19th, 2010 at 4:22 pm

    Francesa just reported that Greinke doesn’t want to go to NY or Boston.

    ——————-

    Good, he another Burnett.

  126. Shame Spencer October 19th, 2010 at 4:23 pm

    “Remember just because AJ is out of the game doesnt mean posada will automatically be in”

    Who remembers what they did last season? I don’t recall if/how they put Posada back in games that Molina caught.

  127. blake October 19th, 2010 at 4:23 pm

    Had Posada caught AJ at all this season then perhaps it would be a dumb decision to start Cervelli…but he hasn’t. AJ is fragile enough already without putting any more doubts in his mind about who is catching him. If a mistake was made, it was during the reg. Season….not now. Cervelli can situationallly hit and do some things in that arena so hopefully he catches the ball and contributes something offensively. They need the rest of the lineup to hit or who is catching won’t make a bit of difference.

  128. tyanksfan36 October 19th, 2010 at 4:26 pm

    Blake

    I totally agree with you. The people calling for Posada to catch AJ have apparently not been following the team this season.

  129. ac1 October 19th, 2010 at 4:27 pm

    The Posada/Cervelli discussion is moot right now, since 7 of the other 8 hitters have been rendered useless.

  130. bruceb October 19th, 2010 at 4:28 pm

    EliasInNH October 19th, 2010 at 4:02 pm
    lol Francesa interviewing the FOX suit about the Cablevision dispute. It’s funny as hell. The FOX guy is a complete idiot.

    Truth is Fox and Cablevision are as bad as each other. They are both greedy companies out to screw the consumer, despite the country being in the midst of an economic recession. Unfortunately, I have no choice but to subscribe to Cablevision as I cannot get a satellite signal for DirecTV. Not only has my monthly bill increased steadily but I was also forced to pay more for an additional box upstairs during the switch from analog to digital. Cablevision seems to be constantly in dispute with the TV companies. Now, that for once arbitration suits them, they are making a big song and dance about it. If the Yanks reach the World Series and I can’t see the games I’ll be hopping mad. Sort it out – now.

  131. Yanksgal07 October 19th, 2010 at 4:29 pm

    I’ll be off to the game in a little while …everyone needs to send good vibes to AJ and the boys.
    It’s time to turn the tables and be the team on the winning end from now on.

    Go AJ !!! Go Yankees !!!!

  132. Red Lobster October 19th, 2010 at 4:30 pm

    AJ needs to be confident in throwing his curveball, that it won’t go to the back stop. He’s gong to be a wreck as it is if he puts runners on base. He needs to be able to trust his curve, otherwise, he’s just going to groove fastballs to them and he will be out in the 2nd inning.

  133. Chambliss October 19th, 2010 at 4:30 pm

    AJ needs to forget about everything that he did during the regular season. He was that bad.

    That should start with the catcher. It is not as if he had success with Cervelli this year.

    Tonight should be a fresh start for AJ and that should begin with Posada behind the plate, but that is not going to happen.

  134. Tyler October 19th, 2010 at 4:33 pm

    AJ should just watch video of him carving up the Yankees in ’08. The guy was unhittable against them that year.

  135. Don Vito A. Bellamo October 19th, 2010 at 4:34 pm

    “Francesa just reported that Greinke doesn’t want to go to NY or Boston.” – - – Good thing to know, as even people that WANT to come to NY, some completely melt in the “heat”. Have a nice career with the Pirates, kid ! :-)

  136. blackaccord October 19th, 2010 at 4:35 pm

    for what its worth.. aj was 1-0 in 3 starts against texas this season with a 2.50 era…

  137. Shame Spencer October 19th, 2010 at 4:35 pm

    “Not only has my monthly bill increased steadily but I was also forced to pay more for an additional box upstairs during the switch from analog to digital.”

    bruceb – AMEN! Best part is half of these TV companies are able to force their subscribers to sign a contract. Personally, I think there is something wrong with a system where you are forced to sign a contract for X number of years to PAY SOMEONE ELSE A MONTHLY FEE!!! Do you also get charged $.80 for each remote you have? I love that they throw that in there.

  138. West Coast Yankee Fan October 19th, 2010 at 4:35 pm

    Watching Girardi’s press conference right now just reminds me what I don’t care for him. Aside from being smug and arrogant it was non-stop Cervy, Cervy, Cervy. Ugggh!

    1. When asked if Posada was swinging a hot bat right now would Girardi still sit Posada tonight in favor of Cervelli, he said yes. Unreal.

    2. Then when another reporter asked Girardi “what exactly Burnett and Cervelli do well together”, Girardi wouldn’t answer. Instead he spewed some crap about Jorge being an older catcher who couldn’t catch every game.

  139. ac1 October 19th, 2010 at 4:36 pm

    for what its worth.. aj was 1-0 in 3 starts against texas this season with a 2.50 era…

    _

    would make us feel better if Hughes hadn’t dominated Texas his entire career only to struggle in Game 2.

    But hoping for the best.

  140. blackaccord October 19th, 2010 at 4:36 pm

    I think with Cervelli catching, most of the game calling would come from the bench.. also, cervelli’s throws to 2nd base will atleast make it to second base unlike Jorge’s throws..

  141. ac1 October 19th, 2010 at 4:37 pm

    . When asked if Posada was swinging a hot bat right now would Girardi still sit Posada tonight in favor of Cervelli, he said yes. Unreal.

    __

    What’s he going to say? “No, but since POsada is not being productive, i am benching him”??

  142. Cashman needs to go October 19th, 2010 at 4:38 pm

    LGY October 19th, 2010 at 4:13 pm
    “What bothers me most about Gardner is that he has HORRIBLE baserunning instincts..”

    ——————————–

    Gardner stole 47 bases this year at an 84% success rate.

    I have a hard time believe he has horrible baserunning instincts given how successful he was this season running the bases.

    He would have been dead in the water half way to third base if he tried to take the extra bag when the ball trickled past him.

    Trying to take third on that play?

    Now THAT would have been horrible baserunning.

    *****************

    Stealing bases and baserunning instincts are two totally different things…i’ve seen fast runners take second and even third when the ball is just a few feet away from catchers on a pitch in the dirt or pass ball….its not hesitating and just running as soon as you see the ball slip away that makes a huge difference – gardner doesn’t have that..

    as for last nights play – the ball was thrown about 10 feet off of second – gardner had the base stolen even before the ball got there – the ball glanced off of andrus’s glove and started rolling into rightcenter – kinsler had to retreive the ball halfway to right – if gardner actually had his head in the game he could have taken off as soon as he saw the ball glance off the glove – by the time kinsler got to the ball he would have had to make a 180 degree turn (he obviously had his back to the infield) and then thrown a laser to 3rd right on target – could it be done – of course it could….but it would have taken perfection on kinslers part to do it…..the crawfords, pierre’s and uptons of the world would have done it without thinking……speed is what has gotten gardner to the majors – if he doesn’t or refuses to use it then he isn’t playing to his capacity…

  143. Doreen October 19th, 2010 at 4:39 pm

    Genius Maker -

    What you really mean, is YOUR logic is being used. Just because you disagree with Girardi’s logic doesn’t mean he doesn’t use any.

  144. Doreen October 19th, 2010 at 4:40 pm

    Shame Spencer -

    That was A+!!! Loved it.

  145. Carl October 19th, 2010 at 4:41 pm

    West Coast Yankee Fan October 19th, 2010 at 4:35 pm

    Watching Girardi’s press conference right now just reminds me what I don’t care for him. Aside from being smug and arrogant it was non-stop Cervy, Cervy, Cervy. Ugggh!

    1. When asked if Posada was swinging a hot bat right now would Girardi still sit Posada tonight in favor of Cervelli, he said yes. Unreal.

    You’re dumb if you actually believe that.

    2. Then when another reporter asked Girardi “what exactly Burnett and Cervelli do well together”, Girardi wouldn’t answer. Instead he spewed some crap about Jorge being an older catcher who couldn’t catch every game.

    Posada is 38. I want Posada catching CC tomorrow. Not Cervelli.

  146. bruceb October 19th, 2010 at 4:42 pm

    Shame Spencer October 19th, 2010 at 4:35 pm
    “Not only has my monthly bill increased steadily but I was also forced to pay more for an additional box upstairs during the switch from analog to digital.”

    bruceb – AMEN! Best part is half of these TV companies are able to force their subscribers to sign a contract. Personally, I think there is something wrong with a system where you are forced to sign a contract for X number of years to PAY SOMEONE ELSE A MONTHLY FEE!!! Do you also get charged $.80 for each remote you have? I love that they throw that in there.

    I’m not aware of a charge for the remotes but it wouldn’t surprise me at all. While I’m on a Cablevision rant…what a cheek that they offer new customers a cut-price deal to attract them yet screw the loyal subscribers who have been with them for years? I’m also told that DirecTV supplies a higher quality picture.

  147. blackaccord October 19th, 2010 at 4:42 pm

    the double play, triple play crap that these companies advertise are all crap.. its for basic service for those who have old tube tvs… If you want hd receiver its 10$ extra.. if you want hd-dvr its 15$ extra… if you want a simple receiver for another tv, its 5$ extra… end of the day, u look at your bill and you will end up paying 150$ + for cable, phone and internet…

  148. KevinP October 19th, 2010 at 4:43 pm

    My AJ prediction:

    6 innings – 3 ER, 7 hits, 4BB, 6K

    Call me bullish but I’m a glass half full kinda guy :)

  149. YankeeRay October 19th, 2010 at 4:45 pm

    Posada is not swinging a hot bat, his defensive lapses this season have been untimely, catching tomorrow after a night game will be easier after sitting today and he wil be in this game at some time. I’m not unhappy with this move. This is not like hitting Arod 8th. This is what we did all year and I believe AJ will pitch a good game.
    Now it’s up to the rest of the line up to hit like they can.

  150. Wave Your Hat October 19th, 2010 at 4:46 pm

    The Yanks are going to outslug Texas tonight 10-6. Everyone will feel better in the morning.

  151. Cashman needs to go October 19th, 2010 at 4:47 pm

    The Other Phil October 19th, 2010 at 4:14 pm
    Cashman needs to go October 19th, 2010 at 4:10 pm

    What bothers me most about Gardner is that he has HORRIBLE baserunning instincts..

    Case in point last night – he steals second and for him thats the end of the play – he doesn’t have the instincts (or maybe its the intelligence) to see where the ball is (in this case it was rolling into rightcenterfield) – all fast baserunners have that extra instinct to look for the ball and take advantage even if its rolling just 10 feet off the base…players with speed, and not much else (like gardner), need to take advantage of plays like that and go take that extra base – especially in a game where the yankees aren’t hitting much….

    of course the flip side of that argument is he was 1 of only 2 players to get a hit…
    =================

    If you go back and look at the play, the ball did not travel very far and he would probably have been thrown out going to 3rd. He did look and see where the ball was, but Kinsler was nearly on top of it by the time Gardner would have been on the move. It would have put pressure on Kinsler to make a throw, but with the way the offense was massively struggling, I don’t think it would have been the right move.

    You have to figure that Jeter will do his job and move the runner to 3rd, but he didn’t get it done.

    Gardner does need to improve his game at the plate (bunting especially) and I would definitely like to see him be more aggressive, but he’s talked about his SB philosophy as one of not stealing 90 to be caught 40. If it’s something that Cash and JoeG want him to change in the off season, I’m sure they’ll discuss it with him.

    ****************

    The other Phil – do you have a link so that I can go back and look at the play over again? I’m pretty sure kinsler had to run a bit to get the rolling ball – i think he was going to back up second and then had to turn around and retrieve the ball that was rolling away from him….regardless kinsler had to run after the ball, pivot around and then make a strong, accurate throw to get him – someone with gardners speed should be able to beat that out if he had the instincts to get up and start running to third without hesitation…JMO

  152. West Coast Yankee Fan October 19th, 2010 at 4:47 pm

    Burnett has stunk even when Cervelli caught this year.

  153. pat October 19th, 2010 at 4:48 pm

    Some of you are funny thinking Girardi is making the pitching and catching decisions on his own.

    Organizational decisions are used in the postseason not a manager operating in a vacuum.

  154. Rich in NJ October 19th, 2010 at 4:48 pm

    “Some of you are funny thinking Girardi is making the pitching and catching decisions on his own.”

    Fine, they’re all idiots.

  155. pat October 19th, 2010 at 4:49 pm

    How to tell a Yankee fan from a troll….

    Those who seem to be more interested in being proven right about decisions made than the Yankees succeeding.

  156. The Other Phil October 19th, 2010 at 4:49 pm

    Wave Your Hat October 19th, 2010 at 4:46 pm

    The Yanks are going to outslug Texas tonight 10-6. Everyone will feel better in the morning.
    ===============

    I wouldn’t hold my breath. Even with a win, there will be some here pitching a fit about some decision Girardi made or some play that was missed. The whiners invariably find something to cry about.

  157. EliasInNH October 19th, 2010 at 4:51 pm

    you know…the more I’m thinking about it, I can see the Yankees being like the dynasty of the 90′s/2000…we won in ’96, missed in ’97, then won three in a row. If we can get Lee next year, and maybe Crawford, I think we can be a force to reckon with again for a long time. We’d have a great lineup, speed, excellent pitching, etc. I feel like we’re really close this year, but that we’re just missing a key part. (read: starting pitching). Maybe it had to do with the long layoffs between series, maybe not. Maybe we miss this year, but I think if we can get Lee and Crawford, we’d be insanely good for a long time. Hopefully they will win tonight and tomorrow afternoon, and go back to Texas up 3-2 and seal the deal with Hughes in Game 6…. Go Yankees!

  158. pat October 19th, 2010 at 4:51 pm

    Rich

    It’s their team. The can be as smart or stupid as they want to be.

    Besides, sometimes stupid decisions work and smart ones don’t. :wink:

  159. KevinP October 19th, 2010 at 4:51 pm

    For my nerves and sanity I don’t want another nail biter of a game tonight. I’m too stressed at 11:30pm+ to get to bed after all the pressure.

    Give me a laugher so I can enjoy the game and not start sweating every time Burnett goes into a 3-0 count to lead off the inning.

    LOL

  160. Carl October 19th, 2010 at 4:52 pm

    # West Coast Yankee Fan October 19th, 2010 at 4:47 pm

    Burnett has stunk even when Cervelli caught this year.

    So lets have him stink with Posada and have Posada catch 3 days in a row. Great idea.

  161. Nick in SF October 19th, 2010 at 4:53 pm

    Since song parodies and Melky are the current topics, I re-present:

    The Sound of Melky

    (with apologies to Oscar Hammerstein)

    He roams the field and scrapes his knee
    His uni has got a tear
    He waltzes through the dugout
    And whistles on the stair
    And underneath his nonchalance
    His head seems in the air
    I even heard him singing in the outfield

    He’s always late on fastballs
    But at least his effort’s real
    He’s always late on every pitch
    But on time for every meal
    I hate to have to say it
    But I may start to feel
    Melky’s not an asset to the outfield

    I’d like to say a word on his behalf
    Melky makes me laugh

    How do you solve a problem like Cabrera?
    How do you catch a cloud and pin it down?
    How do you solve a problem like Cabrera?
    And even worse, he slides to first! A clown!

    Many a thing you know you’d like to tell him
    Many a thing he ought to understand
    But how do you make him stay
    And listen to all you say
    How do you keep a wave upon the sand

    Oh how do you solve a problem like Cabrera?
    How do you hold a moonbeam in your hand?

    http://yankees.lhblogs.com/200.....ent-416884

  162. LGY October 19th, 2010 at 4:54 pm

    Robbie is going BOOM! 2x tonight.

    The key though will be if Tex or Alex actually get on base in front of him so they are not solo shots

  163. Gary October 19th, 2010 at 4:54 pm

    It’s safe to come on to the board as that idiot Trisha isn’t here.

    Just listening to Rome, by far not the best source but he thinks the Yanks are in alot of trouble, but the stoiry line is the same Yanks need to win three of the next three and it can be done to aviod Lee in game 7.

  164. Nick in SF October 19th, 2010 at 4:54 pm

    And with that I am gone again!

  165. Macfan October 19th, 2010 at 4:54 pm

    “# West Coast Yankee Fan October 19th, 2010 at 4:47 pm

    Burnett has stunk even when Cervelli caught this year.”

    ++++++++++++++++++

    Exactly I don’t get the deal with Cervelli behind the plate

    He has allowed 55 steals and 9 caught stealing
    He has committed 14 errors

    Burnett has an over 5 ERA catching him
    He can’t hit

    So I hope he is working on getting bunts down to a T

  166. West Coast Yankee Fan October 19th, 2010 at 4:55 pm

    Bottom line is we have two games coming up where we should be able to put a lot of runs up on the board and we had better. We go to Texas up 3-2 we have a shot to take one game there but IMO we won’t take two. Cliff Lee is waiting to pitch game 7.

  167. Yankee tradition Steve howe style October 19th, 2010 at 4:57 pm

    Even if by some huge miracle AJ does not crap the bed tonight the Yankees still have a huge problem. The Rangers had an easy time handling Sabathia and Hughes while the Yankee bats have been dead. They also beat Pettitte last night so who do the Rangers fear among the Yankee starters ?

    *crickets*

  168. Tom in N.J. October 19th, 2010 at 4:58 pm

    Nick, that was surreal.

  169. RadioKev October 19th, 2010 at 4:58 pm

    Gardener could not have advanced to third on the throw. It didn’t roll far, and after going face first into the second basemen he wasn’t completely aware that it had gotten away. He did see that it got away, but I believe just a moment or so after Kinsler had gone to retrieve it. Getting thrown out at third would have been unacceptable.

    Also, as most people have said, starting Cervelli is an awful idea on many levels. Cervelli did start turning around a little bit late in the season, but it makes no sense. He splits against both are poor. Cervelli has shown to be erratic behind the plate, although a far more nimble than Posada. Oh, and Posada is a far superior hitter.

    Joe deserves the heat on this one if it doesn’t work out.

  170. The Other Phil October 19th, 2010 at 4:59 pm

    CTNG: I don’t have the link but I am sure the play is available on MLB.Com. Whether he (or Crawford or Pierre or whomever) would have made it is debatable. (Crawford ‘never’ gets thown out at 3rd from RF, but it happened) I don’t have a problem with him staying put in that specific case as a ball in play to the right side moves him over and he can score from 2nd on a single anyway.

    You know full well that if he went and got thrown out, he would be getting destroyed about it. “WTF was he thinking going to 3rd on that?! Too tight a game! He’s a moron!” etc…

    I don’t agree with it being about instincts per se, but more of a philosophy of “do I take more chances or let the guys behind me do their damage”? I’m fine with letting the bats behind do the damage but would like to see him be a little more aggressive in the future.

  171. Gary October 19th, 2010 at 4:59 pm

    Why are the Yanks in this pickle? Two things stand out the Javy signing. How often do you give a guy a second chance to prove to you again that he still can’t pitch. #2 Seattle playing games with the Yanks on the Lee deal. Lee was a Yankee and we had a deal.

    The offseason wasn’t good for the Yanks, Nick Johnson was version number two of the Javy experiment and Curtis sure hasn’t lit up the place either.

  172. Captain Clutch October 19th, 2010 at 5:02 pm

    Cervelli catching tonight has more to do with how bad Posada has been behind the plate instead of it being anything positive about Cervelli. Everyone knows how wild AJ is and I really don’t think Posada would be able to handle him and block all of the curveballs in the dirt. Against Pawtaucket AJ was all over the place and Cervelli did a good blocking the balls. The Yanks have to address their catching situation in the off season because I think Posada’s catching should be very limited next year.

  173. RadioKev October 19th, 2010 at 5:03 pm

    # Gary October 19th, 2010 at 4:59 pm

    Why are the Yanks in this pickle? Two things stand out the Javy signing. How often do you give a guy a second chance to prove to you again that he still can’t pitch. #2 Seattle playing games with the Yanks on the Lee deal. Lee was a Yankee and we had a deal.

    The offseason wasn’t good for the Yanks, Nick Johnson was version number two of the Javy experiment and Curtis sure hasn’t lit up the place either.

    ————————————————–

    Curtis Granderson has been the bast Yankee hitter this post season and he was lighting things up since mid-August. Dare I say, besides Cano, he’s the only hot Yankee bat.

  174. Macfan October 19th, 2010 at 5:03 pm

    # West Coast Yankee Fan October 19th, 2010 at 4:55 pm

    Bottom line is we have two games coming up where we should be able to put a lot of runs up on the board and we had better. We go to Texas up 3-2 we have a shot to take one game there but IMO we won’t take two. Cliff Lee is waiting to pitch game 7.

    ++++++++++++++++++++

    All I know is the Yankees better bounce back and pund Tommy “I’m not Catfish” Hunter, the way the Rangers pounded Phil Hughes for BP after their Game 1 meltdown

    If this Yankee offense doesn’t put runs up it will be a disgusting shame on them.

    Tommy Hunter is much weaker on the road and the Yankees know what is at stake

    We’ll say if they step up or lay down.

  175. Jason Voorhees October 19th, 2010 at 5:06 pm

    Granderson did pick it up towards the end of the year. He at least hit better than he did last year. He has similar numbers but in 24 less games played.

  176. Doreen October 19th, 2010 at 5:07 pm

    And yet, here they are, 95 wins later, still alive in the ALCS.

    :)

  177. Jason Voorhees October 19th, 2010 at 5:10 pm

    And yet, here they are, 95 wins later, still alive in the ALCS.
    —————–

    That seems to be the hardest thing for people to grasp. If they aren’t the 1998 team, they are the worst club in history of the Yankee Franchise.

  178. blake October 19th, 2010 at 5:11 pm

    Nomar’s prediction: “if the Rangers can get 4 innings out of Hunter then turn it over to their good bullpen then they should win”.

    Ok….?

  179. Pepitone October 19th, 2010 at 5:12 pm

    It wouldn’t matter if the Yankees had a resurrected Thurman Munson behind the plate catching Burnett, if the bats don’t come alive you can forget it.

    Of course, if they had Munson, then the bats would come alive, he’d make sure of it.

  180. Bring in the Goose October 19th, 2010 at 5:12 pm

    Hey, Nomah –

    Who in that bullpen besides Feliz is going to cover the next 5 innings?

  181. pat October 19th, 2010 at 5:14 pm

    We now interpt the angst for a little rational thought….

    YankeesWFAN From June 2nd thru end of reg season Posada hit .224/.343/.405 (350 PA). Risk of 2 PA in this game not great (he’ll PH by 6th inn).

  182. Bring in the Goose October 19th, 2010 at 5:15 pm

    Do they interview former players for these broadcasting jobs?

    I watched Mike Cameron on MLB Network and he was brutal.

    C. Ripken looks like he’s asleep.
    B. Ripken sounds like he’s drunk.
    Eckersley looks like he’s dressed as a groomsman in Kenny Loggins’s wedding.
    Who the heck is Craig Sager anyway and what stores is he keeping afloat?

  183. Cashmoney October 19th, 2010 at 5:17 pm

    Roids or not, Barry Bond’s latter years with the Giants were simply unreal. I have never seen any one individual in baseball has a larger effect on a team offense than Bond did for the giants

  184. blackaccord October 19th, 2010 at 5:18 pm

    i feel sweeney is right… 2 PA’s is not a big deal to whine about.. also, posada hasnt been sharp behind the plate this post season…

  185. Rich in NJ October 19th, 2010 at 5:18 pm

    “How to tell a Yankee fan from a troll….

    Those who seem to be more interested in being proven right about decisions made than the Yankees succeeding”

    Speaking only for myself, this is false. I would be thrilled to post tonight that Cervelli contributed to a win.

    “We now interpt the angst for a little rational thought….

    YankeesWFAN From June 2nd thru end of reg season Posada hit .224/.343/.405 (350 PA). Risk of 2 PA in this game not great (he’ll PH by 6th inn).”

    That’s hardly rational, it’s myopic.

    The inquiry should begin and end with one question: Who gives the team a better chance to win? Unless you think Posada is in freefall, it’s him

  186. Macfan October 19th, 2010 at 5:22 pm

    # Jason Voorhees October 19th, 2010 at 5:10 pm

    And yet, here they are, 95 wins later, still alive in the ALCS.
    —————–

    That seems to be the hardest thing for people to grasp. If they aren’t the 1998 team, they are the worst club in history of the Yankee Franchise.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++

    LOL, well the 98 Yankees were down 2-1 in the ALCS as well and folks were jumping off bridges back then as well

    The Yankees need to score runs.

    That should be their mantra, how many innings of run production have we seen so far from the Yankees not much, they had the eruption in the 1st game in the 8th inning and that has been it.

  187. Captain Clutch October 19th, 2010 at 5:28 pm

    The starting pitching in the NL series has been unreal….so far. Assuming the Phillies win they are going to be a tough bunch in the WS. If Texas beats the Yanks I hope the Phillies kicks their butts.

  188. ET October 19th, 2010 at 5:29 pm

    Francessa , during his interview with Darling, said he “heard” that AJ was very unhappy about the Yankees making him throw an 80-pitch simulated game

    Why?

  189. Cashmoney October 19th, 2010 at 5:29 pm

    In 2004, Barry Bond had an OBP of 609!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! in 147 games. That is unreal!

  190. Betsy October 19th, 2010 at 5:29 pm

    What an utter joke. The Yankees are facing being down 3-1, they haven’t hit and Joe decides to go with Cervelli. Ugh – right now I wish the Cubs had not hired another manager. Absolutely disgraceful…………..and no excusing Joe. He could have had Po catch AJ down the stretch.

    Boy, I’m ticked off.

  191. Bronx Jeers October 19th, 2010 at 5:29 pm

    Erin,

    Nicks Melky song? Recognize it?

    Nick,

    I’ll assume that was written pre-peanut episode. I might consider a revision/update. :wink:

  192. upstate kate October 19th, 2010 at 5:30 pm

    really? why? Philly is the last team of the final 4 I want to win the WS

  193. Betsy October 19th, 2010 at 5:31 pm

    As to Greinke, I don’t know why people continue to disregard what he’s said. Word is that he does not want to pitch in NY, Boston, Philly – basically any big market. Per Gammons, he really wants to go to Minnesota. The Yankees are not (if they lose out on Lee) going to trade a great package of players (you’d have to trade Phil very likely, in addition to Montero, for those who really want Greinke) for a young man who clearly isn’t suited for the pressures of NYC. Cashman is not a dummy

  194. Cashmoney October 19th, 2010 at 5:33 pm

    Barry Bond defied the Newtonian laws of baseball and was blackmailed by MLB into retirement.
    That was a travesty!

  195. Eroc October 19th, 2010 at 5:33 pm

    As pat said, Girardi doesn’t make these decisions (Cervelli/Posada) unilaterally. If you don’t like it, the organization is to blame, not Joe himself.

  196. Captain Clutch October 19th, 2010 at 5:33 pm

    Ross with a rbi, he is the Babe Ruth of the play offs. It’s unreal to think that the Giants got him for nothing.

  197. blake October 19th, 2010 at 5:33 pm

    Have a series Cody Ross.

  198. Mike_Boston October 19th, 2010 at 5:34 pm

    If Bonds wasn’t the biggest Jerk’off in the game maybe he would have gotten better treatment, PED’s not withstanding…Cody Ross is having the post season of his dreams!

  199. Captain Clutch October 19th, 2010 at 5:35 pm

    Philly is the last team of the final 4 I want to win the WS
    —–

    Believe me I really don’t like the Phillies but I can never root for a team that beats the Yanks. I have to go with the NL team. If the Giants come out of that series I would root for them.

  200. LGY October 19th, 2010 at 5:37 pm

    Betsy

    What did Greinke say?

  201. Cashmoney October 19th, 2010 at 5:41 pm

    During the period of 01-04, Bond slugged an epic 749 or higher , including an awe inspiring 863 in 01. He also posted a min of 515 on base percentage to go with those ungodly slugging pct.

  202. BIG AL October 19th, 2010 at 5:52 pm

    repost

    I do realize Grienke pitchers for KC, but, his numbers overall are not that impressive, so as to be willing to give up your top prospects.

    W-L 60-67, ERA 3.82, IP 1108, Hits 1121, SO 931, H/9 9.1, WHIP 1.264

    I think he’d be a fair to good pitcher with the Yankees, but not higher than a #4 starter. Me, I don’t give up my top prospects for Grienke, IMO.

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