A second chance for Phil Hughes
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Oct 22, 2010 
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Look at that picture. That’s Phil Hughes, and he looks like he means business.
“I didn’t want my season to end on that last start,” he said.
Game 2 would have been a bad way to end a good year. You expect some up-and-down moments from a 24-year-old starter, and so far the postseason has given both extremes from Hughes. Outstanding in the division series. No so good in the ALCS.
Joe Girardi said the extra rest might have played a role in Hughes’ command problems during that Game 2 start here in Texas, but Hughes kind of shrugged it off. In his mind, it seems, he should be able to make a pitch no matter how many days have passed. Hughes also shrugged off his workload. He’s thrown far more innings this year than at any other point in his career, but Hughes said he’s noticed no “wear or fatigue.” Hughes also shrugged off the enormity of the postseason.
Not to oversimplify it, but it always comes down to making pitches.
“I had just as much if not more adrenaline in my first start against Minnesota, and that certainly wasn’t the problem (against Texas),” Hughes said. “It was just being very predictable, and throwing a lot of fastballs, and hitters counts that were mistakes. (That) is what it boils down to. Have to do a better job of that, and I’m confident that I will.”
Associated Press photo
Check out this Robinson Cano and Bo Jackson’s commerical: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abEowl9jLT0
CANO GOES BOOOOOOOM!!!
Kate;
you very welcome. I didn’t see your message until now.=)
Country Club
Two questions
What did Heyman say and how have the Yankees overvalued Nunez?
honestly guys I love the optimism I’m seeing on the blog. Keep it up and Keep the faith baby!!!
Hughes wielding the power of the mullet to carry him through this Game 6!
LGY;
Heyman basically said the Braves have expressed interest in Nunez. If that’s the case, I wonder who we could trade him for? Don’t think Venters or Kimbel will work.
I believe in Hughes tonight and I believe if given the chance we’re going to beat Lee to get to the World Series.
Hold on to your snuggies tonight folks!
0 Days, 8 Hours, and 34 Minutes until Game 6 of the ALCS
Blake-
I responded to you in the last thread.
Okay.. I wrote a song suring the seminar.
Since I didn’t have the music playing, I had to rely on the tune in my head.
I am going to play it on my iPod now and see if its any good
G Love,
I believe in Hughes too. And I dont’t think that Colbe Lewis will shut down the Yankees line-up twice in a week.
Off to run errands. See you all later.
Let’s go Yankees!
People on Twitter are upset about Swish’s reaction to the Cliff Lee questions. Honestly, he just said what we’re all thinking. The media couldn’t possibly talk about him any more. This conversation has been dominated by Lee.
Ed-that’s probably my favorite commercial ever.
I never get tired of watching it
It worked last time…
Yankees hit 3 long balls to beat Texas…
Jeter: 2-5 2R, 1 2B
Granderson: 1-4, 1 3B, 1 RBI
Cano: 1-3, 1R, 1HR, 2RBI
Arod: 2-4, 1R, 1RBI
Thames: 1-4
Berkman: 2-4, 1 HR, 1RBI
Swisher: 0-4
Posada: 2-4, 1 HR, 1RBI
Gardner: 2-3, 1BB, 1 SB, 1R
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Hughes: 5.1 IP, 3ER, 1 HR, 7H, 2 BB
Wood: 1.2 IP, 2 H, 1 ER
Logan: .1 IP, 1 K
Robertson: .1 IP, 1 H, 1 BB, 1 ER
Rivera: 1.1 IP, 1 K, 1 H
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Yankees 6, Rangers 5
Arod is due for a homer or two.
I’m out for a while.
Time for a hike to clear my head.
Later.
Anyone else read about Swisher’s reaction to questions about Lee?
I’m glad one of them finally said something about it. I’m tired of hearing about Cliff Lee myself and that comes with the utmost respect for him as a pitcher. All in all, he is irrelevant in Game 6 unless they bring him out of the bullpen which I tend to doubt they will.
The only thing any of the Yankees should concern themselves with is Game 6, Colby Lewis, and the W-I-N. Period.
Phi’s got the eye of the tiger in that pic.
I’m not seeing fear in that face.
MTU,
Thanks for posting such an inspirational poem. Song parodies are fun but I think we also need to balance out our lyrical diet a tad in anticipation of the business at hand.
On the other hand, as far as helping me out in the “disturbed poster” department… well lets just say that we’re not off to a such a great start.
Catch you later.
I’m still kind of hoping that Joe DH’s Arod tonight and plays Pena or Nunez at 3b for the better defense.
Arod’s looked like a wooden Indian at 3rd and the utility guys can bunt and move runners over if need be. Plus it keeps Marcus ready for a pinch hitting appearance against a lefty if need be.
LGY,
It was really just a throw away mention by heyman in today’s Daily Scoop, but here is what he wrote:
“The Braves have asked about Yankees shortstop prospect Eduardo Nunez. But New York may see him as an heir apparent to Derek Jeter (in a year or two, anyway), so its decision not to include him in a potential Cliff Lee trade is a bit more understandable.”
I didn’t say that the Yanks were overvaluing him, I said I’m afraid that they’re overvaluing him. Regardless of what side of the Montero for Lee fence you sit, Cash refused to include Nunez when Seattle said he would complete the deal. And he’s been quoted recently saying that Nunez is a future starter at SS. i just don’t see it.
Eff Cliff Lee.
I think its really important that the Yankees score first tonight. The Rangers have their security blanky waiting for a game 7 so if the Yanks can get them down early then the urgency for them may wane knowing they have Lee going tomorrow.
Get this thing to tomorrow Phil…I want to see Andy pitch again.
From Sam’s article in today’s paper:
Because “this is a business,” as Yankees general manager Brian Cashman always says, and it’s a fact — often times the best way to get through to a player is to make an argument that invokes a paycheck.
That is what the Yankees did with Robinson Cano in 2009. Cashman was convinced that the key to Cano making the next step from an excellent player to an elite one was a better understanding of the strike zone, and so he and hitting coach Kevin Long sat Cano down and showed him a spreadsheet.
“First, we showed him the actual strike zone,” Cashman said on Thursday, “and then we broke down all his at-bats and showed him his strike zone” — Cashman held his thumb and forefinger wide apart — “as well as guys who had similar numbers to his. And then we put in dollar amounts, what those guys were making.”
Superimposed on those strike zones was another one: Manny Ramirez’s. Cashman held his fingers much closer together in describing Ramirez’s zone and, during that meeting with Cano, Cashman pointed to the smaller box and the number next to it: $23 million. Ramirez’s salary. “If you’re a normal player, a good player, your earning power is just during your playing career,” Cashman said, “but if you’re a Hall of Fame player you can make money for the rest of your life.”
Cashman shrugged. “You’ve got to speak their language,” he said.
http://www.lohud.com/article/2.....1/10220327
Loved the songs, good posts, good inspiration this morning on the blog.
I am looking forward to tonight’s game which is so winnable. It is our turn and Arod has to pitch in which hasn’t been easy for him this post season.
Go Yankees.
blake,
I agree…it seems like every game except game 5 has seen the Rangers on the board in the first inning. like pettitte’s start vs. lee. if he didn’t give up that two run bomb in the first, the dynamics of that game might have changed tremendously.
i too want to see Pettitte go again. i really hope this isn’t his last season. I genuinely believe he has more in the tank, especially as a 4th starter or something of that ilk….the kind of slot that will allow the Yankees to keep him more fresh over the course of the season (if such a thing exists…)
That was a brilliant idea by Cashman.
Boy, Phil’s got some look in that picture. Talk about determined.
Mad Prince, and others – Cliff Lee is the fad of the moment. He’s someone for the plethora of media members (I won’t dignify many of them by calling them journalists, or reporters) to write about. Great pitcher – no question there. But, it is overdone.
Heck, if Mickey Lolich can beat Bob Gibson (Game 7, 1968 WS, when Tigers were done 3 games to 1), anything can happen. Heck, I remember that game turned when Curt Flood, the best CF in baseball, misjudged a fly ball and played it into a triple. Truly, in a baseball game, anything can happen.
Just win one game today.
Tom in NJ,
Exactly. He is so utterly irrelevant today that there really is no point in discussing him.
But of course the media needs something write about (as if the Yankees being down 3-2 wasn’t enough).
Why stop at 2? A-Rod is due for a three homer night.
Hughes seems to have matured a lot over the past two years. Being on the team with old pro’s like Mo and Andy has certainly rubbed off on him.
Also, it has to be at least a little comforting to Hughes to know that tonight’s long man is the odds on favorite to win the Cy Young award in the American League. Hughes can go out and pitch aggressively from the first pitch. He does not have to hold anything back. He can almost approach the start like a bullpen appearance, and we know how that worked out last year. If Hughes gives the team four or five good innings, he can hand the ball to Sabathia who said that he would be good for 40-50 pitches, more than enough to get the ball to Wood and Mo.
Eight more hours…looks like another unproductive work day…
I thought Phil Hughes would be outstanding his first game against Texas, and he wasn’t. Hopefully tonight he will rise to the occasion and pitch a great game, like he is capable of doing.
Keys to the game? First pitch strikes, command, shut them down early and we score first and take the crowd out of it.
Why doesn’t the media bring up the fact that Cliff Lee gave up 5 runs to the Yankees in last years world series?
Joe from Long Island,
Well put. One game at a time.
I wonder how our hitters will fare vs. Lewis tonight. That’s what should be written about…he didn’t fare too bad the first go-round.
This is the biggest start of Hughes’s young career. I’m excited about that.
I think the Rangers have pitched A-Rod very well. They have a plan and are determined not to let A-Rod beat them. Unfortunately, we have not done as good a job with Josh Hamilton. We need to pay more attention to that tonight.
Great story by Sam. Great idea by Cash. Great improvement in his play by Cano.
Chambliss,
I think I wrote something similar on here yesterday RE: Hughes and Sabathia.
Hopefully Phil is aggressive from the gates and stays ahead. You know the Texas hitters are going to be taking a lot of pitches against him. I’d like to see him go 6 or 7 and allow us to use Sabathia tomorrow if necessary.
West Coast Yankee Fan October 22nd, 2010 at 11:52 am
I think the Rangers have pitched A-Rod very well. They have a plan and are determined not to let A-Rod beat them. Unfortunately, we have not done as good a job with Josh Hamilton. We need to pay more attention to that tonight.
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such insight. I’m calling Jorge right now and telling him to stay away from hanging breaking balls on the inner half of the plate, I think the signal for that one is a wave of the hand towards right field to let Swish know to start running back now.
West Coast,
Good point re: ARod…they have pitched him well and he’s not really a guy they’re going to pitch around with Robbie hitting the way he is. Do you think ARod has been TOO aggressive and not patient enough? They’ve thrown him a lot of balls out of the zone that he has been going after, especially low and inside breaking balls.
If there is one good sign, it would be that he roped two balls in Game 5. Perhaps that is something that will bear more fruits this evening. I don’t care if he hits 3 bombs or 3 singles or whatever, just as long as he gets on base, drives in runs, and is productive in that 4 hole.
I believe in Alex and I am waiting for Texas to make a mistake with him so he can make them pay for it.
Based on 2 different articles today, it appears that Cashman has had a huge hand in deveolping Cano. Pretty cool that he takes such an active role in player development.
The Yankees plan to bring back manager Joe Girardi at a raise, no matter what some fans may say about his reliance on his ever-present binder. He is well-liked by Yankees honchos Hal Steinbrenner, Randy Levine and Brian Cashman.
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....z136VhxeH3
Its now time for another thrilling round of Guess the Line Up
I will accept line ups until 2:30. Remember to post line ups with positions.
Absolutely no revisions will be allowed.
The Mad Prince in Pinstripes October 22nd, 2010 at 12:00 pm
West Coast,
Good point re: ARod…they have pitched him well and he’s not really a guy they’re going to pitch around with Robbie hitting the way he is. Do you think ARod has been TOO aggressive and not patient enough? They’ve thrown him a lot of balls out of the zone that he has been going after, especially low and inside breaking balls.
If there is one good sign, it would be that he roped two balls in Game 5. Perhaps that is something that will bear more fruits this evening. I don’t care if he hits 3 bombs or 3 singles or whatever, just as long as he gets on base, drives in runs, and is productive in that 4 hole.
I believe in Alex and I am waiting for Texas to make a mistake with him so he can make them pay for it.
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You make some really good points. You know, I think A-Rod is a streaky hitter, probably more so than many big league hitters are. He can go on a tear for an extended period of time and look like the best hitter in baseball, or he can get into these stretches where he just does nothing.
Unfortunately, so far in this series, he is hitting .176 with only 3 hits and no home runs.
The Yankees can afford to use C.C. out of the bullpen tonight [if] need be. Texas can’t use Cliff Lee out of their bullpen tonight unless real desperation sets in with Ron Washington.
Lee is for discussion when free agent filing time comes ……. after the World Series.
Ed October 22nd, 2010 at 11:22 am
LGY;
Heyman basically said the Braves have expressed interest in Nunez. If that?s the case, I wonder who we could trade him for? Don?t think Venters or Kimbel will work.
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They better get something good for him if they trade him because he was the piece that kept us from getting Lee.
Okay.. here is my song
Good-bye Rangers
(To the Tune of “Good-bye Stranger” by Supertramp)
It was late in the evening
The Yanks were on the field
They came to Texas to play
And prove they are for real
With Gardner out in left
And Posada behind the plate
The Yankees will advance
And seal Texas’s fate
I believe in Yankee pride
From Cano to Babe Ruth
Twenty-seven world titles
Is the undisputed proof
With Granderson in center
And Hughes on the mound
The Yankees will prevail
Victory will be found
The Yanks will going on playing
Playing like the champs
We’ll never look behind us
We’ll do a victory dance
Chorus:
Good bye Rangers
It’s been nice
But you have to pay the price
Through the wind and Texas heat
This Yankee team will not be beat
Good bye Rangers
Good bye Ron
Hope we never meet again
You’ll feel sorrow, you’ll feel pain
Come tomorrow, you’ll feel shame
(Repeat 3 times)
Some games you lose, and most you don’t
Because the Yanks played well
When the Yankees win the next two
Texas will hear the final bell
With Jeter at short stop
And A-Rod at third base
Yankee fans will have
A smile on their face
The Yankees will go on playing
Playing until the end
We’ll never look behind us
Then the victory parade begins
(Repeat chorus)
Side note-
As I was typing that song the song “Miracles” came on my iPod.
“If you only you believe like I believe”
That has to be some sort of sign right?
GTLU:
SS Jeter
RF Swisher
2B The Birthday Boy
3B Rodriguez
DH Thames
1B Berkman
C Posada
CF Granderson
LF Gardner
Thanks Erica
# Erica in NY October 22nd, 2010 at 12:12 pm
Side note-
As I was typing that song the song “Miracles” came on my iPod.
“If you only you believe like I believe”
That has to be some sort of sign right?
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i certainly hope so.
GO YANKEES!!!!!
On that note: http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....Id=rss_nyy
Erica-love the song.
I think some people get caught up on what last piece stopped the lee trade. It was the combination of all the pieces that held up the deal not just Nunez. If Seattle wanted to center a lee trade around Nunez i’d imagine Cashman would have been open to it.
GTLU:
SS Jeet
CF Grandy
2B Robbie BOOM
3B Alex
1B Lance
C Po
RF Swish
DH Thames
LF GGBG
and here is mine for game 7 as I wont be around
SS Jeet
RF Swish
2B Robbie
3B Alex
DH Thames
1B Lance
C Po
CF Grandy
LF GGBG
thanks Erica
GTLU
Jeter SS
Granderson CF
Cano 2B
Alex 3B
Swisher RF
Posada C
Berkman 1b
Thames DH
Gardner LF
You got it Kate-
I will make sure your line up for tomorrow gets counted. Not sure which one of us is doing it yet
Just a guess – but I wonder if Cash refused to include Nunez (in proposed Lee deal) because Texas had been fiddling with the pieces for a while, and Cash doesn’t like to be played. Can’t see Seattle being that dense, turning down a chance to get Montero, one of the highest ranked kids in MiLB, just because of not getting Eduardo Nunez. (Kind of like when Bill Smith in Minnesota kept changing around the deal for Santana). Obviously, this is just a guess.
I dont like Thames behind Alex – let Berkman take more pitches there.
SS Jeter
CF Granderson
2B Cano
3B Arod
1B Berkman
DH Thames
C Posada
RF Swisher
LF Gardner
And here’s the lineup from the pivotal Game 3 of the 1996 ALDS:
SS Jeter
lf Raines
cf Williams
dh Fielder
1b Martinez
2b Duncan
rf O’Neill
3b Hayes
c Girardi
thanks Erica
I have never been much of a Supertramp fan, I much prefer your lyrics
GTLU
Jeter SS
Granderson CF
Cano 2B
Rodriguez 3B
Swisher RF
Posada C
Berkman 1B
Thames DH
Gardner LF
***As song by Supertramp: Goodbye stranger
“Goodbye Rangers, it’s been nice
Please don’t take Josh’s advice.”
Drink until your pain goes away,
before you know it, it’ll be a brighter day!
Erica, that was phenomenal. I swear it made me teary.
For anyone who wants to do it right, here’s the Supertramp version.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVcD5NoNoFM
Open that and read Erica’s version, and it will really hype you up – if you have a soul that is!
upstate kate October 22nd, 2010 at 12:28 pm
thanks Erica
I have never been much of a Supertramp fan, I much prefer your lyrics
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LOL.. thanks.
Its funny, I like a few of their songs a lot. But I despise “The Logical Song” so much that I consider myself not liking Supertramp just because they brought that song into the world
trisha – true pinstriped blue October 22nd, 2010 at 12:31 pm
Erica, that was phenomenal. I swear it made me teary.
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Thanks.. I told you I could do it during a seminar
And thanks again for the song lyric idea.
My apologies to Erica. I didn’t see that you already used that song! My bad!
Yankeeblue222-
I don’t advocate exploiting addiction in that way. This is supposed to be a good natured victory song
YankeeBlue222 October 22nd, 2010 at 12:33 pm
My apologies to Erica. I didn’t see that you already used that song! My bad!
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Thats okay!!!
And my apologies if my previous comment sounded snarky, I thought you were correcting my lyrics. LOL
I point this out to the intelligent faction of this forum, which happens to be the vast majority. Phil Hughes has OWNED the Rangers in Texas.
Phil Hughes pitched the same way CC did – on very extended rest. Only the most dull-witted person can’t follow the bouncing ball and see that there is every reason to be hopeful about Phil’s outing tonight. In other words, if you are stuck in his earlier performance and absolutely transferring it to this time, sorry but you don’t deserve to be a Yankee fan.
The only reason I even bring this up is because I notice the west coast troll had to show up with his dark self and start bringing up any negative that he could.
Karma’s a blitch. I hope he enjoys high heat…
LOL-I just realized I have no chance to win GTLU today because they’re facing a righty. This is what happens when you’re in the middle of doing three things at once and just copy the lineup from Game 5 to save time.
Suddenly Cliff Lee becomes relevant to Game 6:
http://www.weather.com/outlook.....h/37121:20
If tonight gets rained out, then Texas could elect to skip Lewis and go with Lee in Game 6 tomorrow night. It’d allow us to skip Hughes and go with Pettitte in that game if we so desire. Another scenario would be for Lewis to pitch tomorrow vs. Pettitte and then the Yankees to pitch CC on short rest in Game 7 vs. Lee.
Ron Washington would be a fool if he doesn’t pitch Lee in Game 6 if gets postponed until tomorrow night.
Unfortunately I have to renege my comments about Cliff Lee’s irrelevance in Game 6. He may be relevant today, that is Friday, but he is very relevant tomorrow.
Okay, back to cheery land!
Erica,
Since it’s a special occasion, I’ll play for the first time this season tonight.
SS Jeter
CF Granderson
2b Cano
DH Arod
RF Swisher
1b Berkman
C Posada
LF Gardner
3b Pena
Erica, I posted this on the last thread and then realized that there had been a new one for a while.
Okay today was the first time I ever tasted an apple cider donut. It was o-kay. I kept trying to tell myself that it was delicious but it kind of wasn’t. It wasn’t bad. I don’t know what they”re supposed to taste like, but I think I will order some from Citizen’s place in central Jersey. Then if I’m not impressed, I will just figure I don’t like apple cider donuts!
@trisha Awesome! Let me know what you think. I’ve sent them to many friends out of state, and they haven’t been disappointed once.
I’m hoping that melding the game 2 & game 5 lineups is a winner!
Jeter SS
Granderson CF
Cano 2B
Rodriguez 3B
Berkman DH
Swisher RF
Posada C
Thames DH
Gardner LF
Thanks, Erica!
Apple Cider donuts are delicious.
Jeter SS
Swisher RF
Cano 2B
Arod 3B
Granderson CF
Berkman 1B
Posada C
Thames DH
Gardner LF.
I don’t know if they will go with this but its what I woukd do. Granderson is swinging a hot bat…put him where he can drive in runs and protect Alex a bit.
trisha – true pinstriped blue October 22nd, 2010 at 12:36 pm
I point this out to the intelligent faction of this forum, which happens to be the vast majority. Phil Hughes has OWNED the Rangers in Texas.
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Unfortunately, you don’t fall into that category. Phil Hughes performance in Texas before last week where he threw 15 shutout innings was too small a sample size and the circumstances were too different to draw any meaningful conclusion from.
The makeup of the teams were totally different when Hughes pitched against Texas in 2007. There were only 3 players on that team that are playing tonight. And in 2009, there were only 5 players on that team that he will face tonight.
i think there is a chance Alex DHs tonight and Nunez plays 3rd. Nunez has more pop than Pena, and offense has been the issue, not defense.
Get lost you horrible horrible rain cloud wet blanket troll!
Didn’t you see from the other thread that nobody wants to read your faux trepidation and phony crepe hanging?
Jeter SS
Granderson CF
Cano 2B
Rodriguez 3B
Swisher RF
Berkman 1B
Posada C
Thames DH
Gardner LF
No way they put Nunez at 3B with the season on the line…he’s shaky defensively at this point in his career especially at 3rd where he hasn’t played a lot.
Stepping away for lunch.
Post line ups until 2:30 to get in on today’s GTLU
I have:
Erin
Upstate Kate
UnKnown
West Coast Yankee Fan
Bring in the Goose
G Love
rb from LI
blake
Patrick- got it
Most important question of the day: Should I get an XXL Chalupa for good karma?
PHIL WILL PREVAIL!!!!!
The kid knows how to pitch. The kid is incredible. The kid is going on regular rest.
Anything else you need to know?
I didn’t think so.
will you be able to eat it all, or will you need a closer?
Concerned – If you think it will be, then it will be!
As Bob Turley said, all the Yankees have to do is believe they can do it. They sure they have the muscle to do it!
To my frustration (and West Coast nancy’s delight) for the last few days, my schedule has kept me from posting and doing little more on LoHud than stealing a few moments to peruse the posts.
I’ve been meaning to say …
Trish, your song lyrics are awesome!!! I’ve seen 3 … I don’t know if I’ve missed any, I’m hoping I haven’t … also, I hope it’s not true that you won’t be around here for the winter. The blog would suffer from doing without your positive vibes (among many others), imo.
Erica (also happens to be my only daughter’s name!), you had a tough act to follow with Trisha, and yet you did not disappoint!!!
Really, really cool, you two!!!
These are MY kind of Yankees fans. The great thing about the recent threads is that the positive Yankees fans, the true believers (by MY definition), have pretty much drowned out the negative nellies here lately!
Yankees in 7!!! Yankees – Giants WS!!!
I heard Mo is available for 6 chews if I need it.
PHIL WILL PREVAIL!!!!!
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Trisha,
I believe you
See you later.
Erica,
Here is my line-up. And great song writing too
Thanks for hosting.
Jeter SS
Granderson CF
Cano 2B
Rodriguez 3B
Swisher RF
Posada C
Berkman 1B
Thames DH
Gardner LF
Phil Hughes looks PISSSSSSSSSSSED…!
I hope he brings it!
Fran and Concerned -
Aldo, so happy you are back. You’ve definitely been missed!
Our father, who art in the Bronx, baseball be thy name. Where hot dogs are
on buns, and championships are won, on earth as they do in New York.
Give us these games, so we can flip off those who root against us. And
lead us not, into elimination, but deliver us to the World Series yet
again! AMEN!….LET’S GO YANKEES!!!!
“Have to do a better job of that, and I’m confident that I will.”
Phil Hughes
Who’s more solid than that kid!
Taking nothing away from Ranger’s pitching, I certainly like our chances!!!
Now gonna get under a blanket for a while and chill (contradiction in termsm haha) – not because I need to hide but because it is danged cold!!!
Check you out later.
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Fran, are we into the same menu as the rest of this series? I think that’s a yes…
GTLU:
Jeter SS
Granderson CF
Cano 2B
Rodriguez 3B
Swisher RF
Berkman 1B
Posada C
Thames DH
Gardner LF
whoisthedogg -
I just found another version.
OurFather who art in the Bronx, Baseball be thy game.Thy will be done..The playoffs won..In the field as well as in the bullpen..Give us this day, our bats and gloves, and forgive us all of our errors, as we forgive those who homer against us..Lead us not into defeat, but help usto beat the Rangers.In the name of the fans, Mr. Steinbrenner,Mr. Sheppard, Mr. Freddie Sez” and in the name of the YANKEES,AMEN!! TGIF
GTLU:
Jeter SS
Grandy CF
Cano 2B
Alex 3B
Swish RF
Thames DH
Posada C
Berkman 1B
Gardner LF
Thank you.
Trisha,
Same menu. Same plans
Great songs!
Thank you trisha supporter! I’ve missed you!!!
Okay, off to get warm.
Later y’all.
Love the songs….Very clever stuff on this blog.
And the prayer, while some may deem it sacrilegious, is pretty great, too, IMO, at least.
i thought some of you folks might be interested in this.. Dirt from old yankee stadium.. Its free and you just pay for shipping.. (add to cart and it will show the total)…
http://www.steinersports.com/n.....rt-capsule
Clearly none of you noticed my post about RAIN IN THE FORECAST.
Not good news for the Yankees.
Mad prince, why do you think its not good news?? Because Lee will pitch game 6 if its tomorrow?
Prince-
I just checked the NOAA forecast for the Dallas area for tonite.
Only a 20% chance of rain. That doesn’t sound like a deal breaker.
“And the prayer, while some may deem it sacrilegious, is pretty great, too, IMO, at least.
”
It did throw me for a minute, but then since I’ve always believed that God is a Yankee fan, I took it as a tribute of sorts to His power! Everyone is still using the Our Father as the basis for that prayer.
By the way, that is all over the internet!
I don’t think the forecast is necessarily bad –
One, it’s not a guarantee it’s going to rain. Second, if it does rain, it’s not a guarantee that the game gets called.
Maybe it becomes a battle of the bullpens. Maybe Lee gets removed because of a prolonged rain delay. Maybe a hundred different things happen.
I think it’s most likely the games get played straight thru. But whatever it is, it is. Let the Rangers worry about the weather. We just have to win.
Not sure if this has already been posted, but here is a story about some Yankee fans in the more expensive seats leaving early, along with the requisite comments from bleacher creature Bald Vinnie:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10.....f=nyregion
I just hope he goes out there relaxed and not with the idea that he has to redeem himself. There’s enough pressure already……
FEAR THE UNDERBITE!
blackaccord/MTU,
I saw on accuweather that there is a 40% chance of rain, thunder and lightning. If this game gets postponed, Washington would be a fool not to start Lee in Game 6 tomorrow. THAT is bad news any which way you cut it.
We can beat Lee, sure, no doubt, but we need to force a game 7 and I like our chances of doing that vs. Lewis tonight vs. the possibility of Lee tomorrow.
If tonight got rained out then the Yankees could throw CC in a game 7 on 3 days rest. The Rangers would have a tough decision on when to pitch Lee knowing that.
JM we decided we were going to keep it positive today. Someone posted that or something similar earlier and people asked him to cool it with anything negative.
Rain favors the Yankees greatly. It would mean Pettitte and Sabathia in games six and seven with a rested Hughes in the pen.
If the game were to be rained out tonight, CC would be avail on 3 days rest for a game Sunday.
One way or another, we have to beat Cliff Lee.
I hope they wait it out as long as they can before starting the game; neither team wants to lose their SP. We’ve really had phenomenal weather in the post-season thus far……Texas sucks,lol
West Coast,
It would also mean Lee in Game 6. That’s what I think is being overlooked here.
Just sayin.
I will be STUNNED if we don’t take tonight’s game because the Yankees are the better team and it seems that they have recovered from the layoff. I cannot imagine Lewis holding our hitters down. I also can’t imagine Phil not being on his stride.
Time will tell.
GO YANKEES!
Well you have to face Lee and beat him at some point. It really doesn’t matter whether it’s in game 6 or 7
BJK,
Right, and I like our chances in a Game 7 vs. Lee more than I do in Game 6. Plus, if Hughes can give us 6 or 7 innings tonight, then we have CC backing up Andy in Game 7 vs. Lee.
I really think Rain tonight be terrible for New York. Much like it was terrible for the Angels last year when it allowed us to start CC.
If it’s not rained out and it’s windy, then I’ll regret that Phil has morphed into a FB pitcher.
What is the point of getting all angsty about it? If the Yankees can’t beat Lee, then so be it………
Lee is going to pitch regardless, we don’t advance if we don’t beat him. The questions is, do you want Pettitte on regular rest or Hughes pitching game six – and Sabathia pitching game seven on short rest.
I’ll be standing by my lads this evening, win or lose, to the last out. They carried me all season, providing the background music through twelve months of ups and downs. The least I can do is be there.
Everybody has some small thing, something which, in their own opinion, they are very good at and about which they are very proud. It might be as simple as carving a turkey, having a green thumb or singing Danny Boy on St. Patrick’s Day for the gang at the pub. But in the comfort of your own element, you are confident, regardless of the odds, that you are going to do your “thing” better than anybody.
Every one of the Yankees are that way about tonight’s game. They want to play, have a chance to get the big hit or throw that cutter away for the strike out or steal second and be the go ahead run or break up that double play or make that outfield assist.
Don’t be nervous for them. One out at a time.
The Mad Prince in Pinstripes October 22nd, 2010 at 1:47 pm
BJK,
Right, and I like our chances in a Game 7 vs. Lee more than I do in Game 6. Plus, if Hughes can give us 6 or 7 innings tonight, then we have CC backing up Andy in Game 7 vs. Lee.
I really think Rain tonight be terrible for New York. Much like it was terrible for the Angels last year when it allowed us to start CC.
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Why do you like our chances better in a Game 7 vs Lee better than Game 6? Do you think Lee will pitch any differently?
Jeter: SS (captain will set the table)
Grandy: CF (2nd best hitter behind Cano so far this PS)
Cano: 2B (MVP, GG winner and has Wally Pipped Tex out of the 3hole for good)
Arod: 3B (2 HR’s at his old park tonight?)
Berkman: 1B (hitting lefty he’s smashing the ball right now, also loves this park)
Posada: C (really started the rally in game 5, is due to pop 1)
Swish: RF (his HR in game 5 should be a good sign, maybe he goes on 1 of his tears?)
Thames: DH (has proved he can hit righties this season)
Gardner: LF (best 2k hitter on the team, just get on base!)
If it’s not rained out and it’s windy, then I’ll regret that Phil has morphed into a FB pitcher.
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Why
If it rains, players on both teams will get wet.
Mike_Boston October 22nd, 2010 at 1:51 pm
Thames: DH (has proved he can hit righties this season)
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Actually had more home runs and a higher OPS against righties this season.
Jeter SS
Granderson CF
Cano 2B
Rodriguez 3B
Swisher RF
Berkman 1B
Posada C
Thames DH
Gardner LF
Saturday’s weather in Arlington looks even worse.
http://www.weather.com/weather.....296#hhView
Patrick October 22nd, 2010 at 1:52 pm
If it’s not rained out and it’s windy, then I’ll regret that Phil has morphed into a FB pitcher.
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Why
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Patrick – let her worry…its what she does.
Patrick, FB/wind = HRs. I still wish he were a GB pitcher regardless, but so be it.
Yankee Trader -
Based on that forecast, with a win tonight, it could be Lee vs. both Pettitte AND CC on Sunday night.
Good fastballs spotted well doesn’t = home runs.
“he looks like he means business.”
I hope this is true, though I won’t expect too much from tonight’s game.
You don’t know which way the wind is blowing so there is no way of knowing if it will help or hurt fly balls until game time.
Patrick, FB/wind = HRs. I still wish he were a GB pitcher regardless, but so be it.
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That’s assuming the wind is blowing out towards the outfield. That’s also assuming that HRs are easier to hit off fastballs. I’d contend that it’s easier to hit a HR off a hanging breaking ball.
I’d say that bad command causes homeruns, not pitch selection. Look at Cliff Lee, he throws mostly fastball, cutter, 2-seam with only a few curveballs but his command is basically flawless.
There’s also the matter of the wind could be blowing IN.
Glass half full though, and fly balls are peppering the seats with rain in the forecast. I have no energy to fret these random possibilities.
Goose-
“Based on that forecast, with a win tonight, it could be Lee vs. both Pettitte AND CC on Sunday night.”
OR, Lee might pitch game 6 on Saturday??
The worst scenario would be have a long rain delay after playing 2-3 innings, forcing us to use the long relievers tonight.
“I will be STUNNED if we don’t take tonight’s game because the Yankees are the better team and it seems that they have recovered from the layoff.”
I hope you are right, trisha.
Sorry Goose-I just realized you inferred that the game is played and won tonight. Duh!
“I’d say that bad command causes homeruns, not pitch selection. Look at Cliff Lee, he throws mostly fastball, cutter, 2-seam with only a few curveballs but his command is basically flawless.”
Agree 100%. Most of the time hitters hit mistakes out of the park, regardless of the type of pitch. A fly ball pitcher isn’t flirting with the warning track all night if he’s on.
YT –
Texas would have to do the same.
I would think it would go something like this:
Lewis : Holland
Hughes : Sabathia : etc., etc.
Too many considerations though to predict.
Long man vs. long man – it’ll be a fair fight.
“The worst scenario would be have a long rain delay after playing 2-3 innings, forcing us to use the long relievers tonight.”
Those long relievers might be named Pettitte, Sabbathia and Burnett. When there’s no tomorrow, difficult decisions are easier to make.
Wet outfield tonight- Does Cruz play with hamstring injury?
The wind and rain will knock down those long fly balls that Phil gives up, instead they will land in Swish and Grandy’s gloves.
Rain? Advantage: Yankees.
BJK, I like our odds better with Lee pitching game 7 because need 2 wins. It’ll be a heck of a lot easier for us to get the first one vs. Lewis than it will vs. Lee.
If it’s clear, the baseball will fly off Cano and Arod and Grandy’s bat. The Bombers will batter Texas.
No rain? Advantage: Yankees.
Playing for a game 7 is incredibly dumb. If Texas has a chance to use Lee on regular rest in game 6, why wouldn’t they? Why would they want to help us extend our season and give us momentum, when they can slam the door right there?
And based on how they’ve hit him this series, I don’t think they would be intimidated about facing CC (on short rest) in a game 7, even if it came to that.
But Nick won’t the wind and rand then also knock down the long fly balls the Yankees hit?
Nick in SF-
Very impressed with the enthusiasm of the Giant fans last night- many standing and cheering the entire game, waving those orange towels.
If it rains tonight at all then I am really happy Phil is a flyball pitcher.
Wet surface + groundballs = big problem
New post discussing the weather—->
BX33,
Finally someone understands what I am trying to say.
We need two wins. Getting the first off of Lewis should be easier than getting it off of Lee. That’s my only point about the potential of rain messing with the current setup.
Patrick October 22nd, 2010 at 2:07 pm
But Nick won’t the wind and rand then also knock down the long fly balls the Yankees hit?
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Mother Nature cannot stop a Robbie Cano BOOM! shot. Even Bo couldn’t. And Bo knows.
Patrick, I agree. I think if Phil just makes better pitches, he won’t give up as many HRs. I know he gave up a lot this year, but that was really when he was struggling. It’s why I had absolutely no problem with pitching him at home in the ALDS.
Tornado + Texas = Dorothy from KC
I think the potential C2 nimbostratus formation might also effect Hughes breathing tonight.
I wish he did not take such deep breath in between pitches.
Trying to explain to my girlfriend why I just spent 4 dollars for a capsule of dirt.
new thread
how about nate mclouth/brian mccann/jonny venters/omar infante for eduardo nunez/jesus montero/aj burnett + money/joba chamberlain/david robertson.