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Cashman “absolutely” wants Girardi back

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Oct 23, 2010 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Asked whether he would like to bring Joe Girardi back next season, Brian Cashman left no doubt.

“Oh yes,” he said. “Absolutely.”

In fact, re-signing Girardi is at the top of Cashman’s own to-do list.

“I would think that would be the first order of business,” Cashman said. “But I haven’t even talked to our owners yet.”

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176 Responses to “Cashman “absolutely” wants Girardi back”

  1. Bret The Hitman October 23rd, 2010 at 12:10 am

    Cashman digging on Carl Crawford too I hope.

    Thanks for listening,

    Bret

  2. G-C October 23rd, 2010 at 12:11 am

    Part of me feels like this is just another broken record.

    In 2006 and 2007 the Yankees were beat by teams that hadn’t seen the playoffs in forever and just flat out looked hungrier. They were hot and were being fawned over by the guys on FOX.

    Those two teams haven’t made it to the playoffs since. I don’t presume the Rangers will after this year either.

    But something needs to be done. There’s no excuse for how unprepared this team was tonight. If they had gotten shut out by Lee tomorrow, I wouldn’t have cared. But they rolled over and let a guy named Colby Lewis three-hit them. Its no different than what Kenny Rogers did in 2006 and what Paul Byrd did in 2007.

    The Yankees have, save last year, become a stepping stone for baseball’s “feel good stories” in the postseason. And its getting frustrating.

    One thing I do encourage you all to do, not that I’m speaking with any authority, is to keep this all in perspective. My grandmother just turned for the worse, is on her last legs and probably doesn’t have much longer to live. As there will always be baseball next year (and consequently, always time to fix the issues that for the large part of the last 10 years have made us a postseason doormat), always remember that there are bigger things in life.

    This is something that I’d always heard thrown around when I would pout and cry about Yankee postseason losses, and something I largely had always ignored. The Yankees WERE what it was all about.

    Perspective can be damning though. God Bless all of you and your families, and enjoy the winter. Its been fun. And hopefully next year, we’ll come back ready to correct the issues that caused us to fall short here.

  3. Erin October 23rd, 2010 at 12:11 am

    I know I’m probably one of about 10, but I’m happy to hear that. :)

  4. Erin October 23rd, 2010 at 12:12 am

    Ledger_Yankees “They played like champions,” Hal Steinbrenner, in statement congratulating the Rangers.

  5. Erin October 23rd, 2010 at 12:12 am

    Ledger_Yankees Cash also said pitching would be a priority.

  6. Captain Clutch October 23rd, 2010 at 12:12 am

    Now I am really happy that Cashman didn’t trade Montero for 1 year of Lee. Even if the Yanks had Lee they wouldn’t have won this series. You can’t hit as poorly as they did and expect to win. Also if the offense continued like this they would never touch the Giants/Phillies starting pitching. If Lee pitched for the Yanks tonight he would of had to pitch a shut out to win.

  7. Betsy October 23rd, 2010 at 12:13 am

    Fabulous…………I’ll throw a party when Joe signs.

    Classy comment by Hal. The only reason I have anything against the Rangers is because they are our major competition for Lee.

  8. ConcernedCitizen October 23rd, 2010 at 12:13 am

    Girardi made some bad decisions this PS, especially regarding the BP, but he didn’t make the Yanks not hit with RISP. No one said learning on the job would be pain free.

    On that note, I’m going to do something besides think about baseball for a change. Good night all. Great season.

  9. Pat M. October 23rd, 2010 at 12:14 am

    GB…..One of my favorite rights of summer is your down on the farm reports…I thank you once againn for your contributions….LGY, your post at 12:07 sums it up perfectly……Pitchers & catchers report in less than 4 months….Man this season just blew by….

  10. igotid88 October 23rd, 2010 at 12:14 am

    not that it would have a difference as the yankees couldn’t score. i’m upset at joe for pulling hughes too early.

  11. Fran the original October 23rd, 2010 at 12:14 am

    Erin,

    I want Joe back too.

  12. Captain Clutch October 23rd, 2010 at 12:14 am

    Cash also said pitching would be a priority.
    ————–

    Lee cough cough….When Lee gets home from the WS Cashman will be on his door step in Arkansas waiting for him with a giant blank check. You know like the ones that people get when they win the lottery.

  13. Bret The Hitman October 23rd, 2010 at 12:15 am

    G-C,

    Nice post.

    Have a nice winter yourself.

    I know I’m shacking up with as many gals as I can.

  14. Mr. Sandman42 October 23rd, 2010 at 12:15 am

    Agreed this is on the offense. Though if Lee was not on Texas, they also would not be in the ALCS.

  15. tampayank October 23rd, 2010 at 12:15 am

    GC I don’t think the Rangers are 1 and done, w the new ownership, young nucleus, and new tv deal they will compete w the Angels for the next few years in that division

  16. blake October 23rd, 2010 at 12:15 am

    G-C,

    sorry to hear that. Thoughts and prayers are with you.

  17. ChokeXOnXFailure October 23rd, 2010 at 12:15 am

    Repost

    # Betsy October 23rd, 2010 at 12:04 am

    Straw, Grandy has power…………either way, I expect him to be a dynamic player next year. I forgot to mention him among the positives.

    Choke, much of my belief about Lee stems from my pessimism. I think he’s going to go FA………but it’s going to be hard for him to leave. Fans underestimated the Rangers’ pitching and I think they are underestimating the pitch they will make to Lee.
    ————————————————————-

    Betsy,

    I see what you did there. Points for the pitching pun.

    I dunno, I just have a guy feeling that Texas isn’t going to screw that up. He’s a pitcher, who can go complete games at will. That’s pretty much Nolan Ryan’s wet dream. He’s not going to go down without a fight. What’s going to piss me off is that I can easily see it going much the same way that the original trade went, where one morning, there’s heavy reports that we’re close to signing Lee, and as the day drags on, it’s still not done, and then it’s “hit a snag”, and then out of nowhere, we’ll see a report that “Lee agrees to stay with Rangers for 5 years, $120 million” or something.

  18. blake October 23rd, 2010 at 12:16 am

    I’ll say again. The Yankees also lost in 1997….the 2nd year of their previous dynasty.

  19. LGY October 23rd, 2010 at 12:16 am

    Cliff Lee would be a great addition, but the Yankees don’t need him.

    This team made it to the ALCS with effectively 3 starters. They had 2 pitchers in their rotation that hurt them more than helped them every time they took the mound. They were so bad to the point where the Yankees probably have a better regular season record if both AJ and Javy go down with season long injuries.

    On top of that they lost Andy Pettitte for 2 months. So for a huge chunk of the season they were left with CC Sabathia and a kid in his first full year.

    All this and they came within 2 wins of going to the World Series.

    The Yankees are still a playoff team in 2011 without Cliff Lee. They are not desperate for him and they will still be strong enough to win a WS without him.

  20. pat October 23rd, 2010 at 12:17 am

    SInce he’s going to be playing for them for another week at least not sure he would or could of said anything else but…..

    jonmorosi I asked Cliff Lee if it’s more likely he will return to #Texas if #Rangers win #WS. He said: “I would like to hope so.” #Yankees #MLB #ALCS

    jonmorosi Lee’s full response: ?I would like to hope so. But I?m not too worried about that kind of stuff right now. I?m worried about that ring.?

  21. Jeremy October 23rd, 2010 at 12:17 am

    Also in regards to A.J. just forget it. The gujy is getting older which means less velocity and with his erratic pitching he will only get worse not better. The Yankees would be better off getting rid of him. Also the guy is a headcase hitting things and cutting himself.

    repost

  22. Fran the original October 23rd, 2010 at 12:17 am

    G-C,

    So true aboyt keeping things in perspective. Sorry to hear about your grandmother. I lost my grandmother a few weeks ago so I feel for you.

  23. Erin October 23rd, 2010 at 12:17 am

    All right, time to get some sleep.

    Have a good night everyone.

    And remember-even though they came up short they made it to the ALCS. Bad teams don’t make it that far.

  24. Yankee2010 October 23rd, 2010 at 12:18 am

    Joe Girardi sucks!

  25. igotid88 October 23rd, 2010 at 12:18 am

    blake October 23rd, 2010 at 12:16 am
    I’ll say again. The Yankees also lost in 1997….the 2nd year of their previous dynasty.
    —————————

    that was my thinking as well. but didn’t want to say anything

  26. igotid88 October 23rd, 2010 at 12:19 am

    i didn’t see the postgame. what did joe say about taking hughes out

  27. Betsy October 23rd, 2010 at 12:19 am

    Bret, do we really need to hear that? Sheesh.

  28. Ruby Friday October 23rd, 2010 at 12:20 am

    Over zealous positive vibes and thoughts = Alternate flawed reality.

  29. Bret The Hitman October 23rd, 2010 at 12:20 am

    Betsy,

    :lol:

  30. lil m October 23rd, 2010 at 12:20 am

    Repost:

    So sorry to see the Yanks go out like this, but given the way they’ve played this ALCS, it’s not a surprise. They played poorly and were outdone by their opponent in every facet of the game. It’s tough to win a game, much less a series, when the offense goes cold for long stretches, especially with men on base. Rangers: respect their gangster, but not feeling them at all at the moment (trying to lay off the haterade, though). I hope the NLCS winner crushes them (okay, maybe just a sip), but the way they’re playing right now, it’s hard to see them losing to anyone. Although that’s what they said about the Phillies, who are now fighting for their postseason lives.

    There were bright spots, not just this October but this season: the emergence of Robinson Cano as a full-blown superstar player; the retooled hitting of Granderson, Swish, and even the Captain under the guidance of K-Long; Phil Hughes’ first full year in the starting rotation. As to the last, it’s probably safe to say that the 2010 ALCS is not likely to be the final referendum on Phil’s future October performance or career. Despite the disappointing end to this year’s postseason and the recurrent tendency to hyper-criticism and snap judgments, there are good reasons to look forward to his further growth as a full-fledged starting pitcher.

    The Cliff Lee sweepstakes will surely be the big story of the offseason, which, sadly, has begun much too soon. It will be interesting to see if Montero finds his way onto the team at some point in the season, as a catcher and a powerful addition to the lineup. At the risk of indulging in wishful thinking, I’m hoping this is the 21st century version of the 1997 team and that the reloaded 2011 edition will come back gangbusters. Get well Tex and Swish; rest up and recharge, 2009 Yankees, can’t wait to see what 2010 brings.

  31. Betsy October 23rd, 2010 at 12:21 am

    LGY, I respectfully disagree.

    CC: stud
    Andy: (IF he returns) – I expect he’ll pitch well, but how often? How healthy will he be.
    Phil: I don’t share your optimism about him. I’m not saying he’ll be bad, but I don’t know how good he’ll be.
    AJ: awful. He’ll probably be better, but that’s not saying much.

  32. TheStraw October 23rd, 2010 at 12:21 am

    G-C

    Sorry for your tough time. I lost my mother the night Aaron Boone hit his HR against the Sox. Remember, the media likes the Yankees to be the evil empire. That will never change. Also remember that revenue sharing makes it much more difficult for dynasties to exist. Keep the faith, they will not allow themselves to become irrelevant.

  33. JM October 23rd, 2010 at 12:21 am

    I for one am glad they didn’t trade Montero.

    He is not going to be the savior immediately; when he gets called up I expect he will have some difficulty at first adjusting to major league pitching, but if his bat is as good as many say, he sure is going to be exciting to watch for the next decade or so.

  34. Jerkface October 23rd, 2010 at 12:21 am

    Lets get Lee, free Montero, and grab another bench bat like Thome, Branyan to compliment Thames.

  35. Mr. Sandman42 October 23rd, 2010 at 12:21 am

    I’ve been saying for a while too, if this is their 1997, I’ll take it for what follows. I think there will be a number of changes on the roster next year (similar to 98) and we’ll probably start to see those in the coming weeks. Even if everyone came back there’s no guarantee they’d make it this far (division is sure to be tight again with Boston bouncing back). Sure will be an interesting hot stove this year.

  36. Jerkface October 23rd, 2010 at 12:22 am

    I am glad Joe will likely be returning, continuity of service is important. The players know Joe and he knows them, and he is one of the most empathetic people in sports. A good guy. I like him. Plus he can manage a bullpen.

  37. blake October 23rd, 2010 at 12:22 am

    LGY,

    Very true and good points. I think they would be a strong contender for a playoff spot without him as well next year. They would still have CC and its reasonable to expect Hughes to take another step as well with no innings limits, and I have to believe AJ will bounce back at least somewhat….

    However, that said, once you get to the postseason then Lee would make them significantly more dangerous in a series….you’d be looking at Sabathia, Lee, and Pettite (I hope)….3 absolute gamers and then Hughes as the #4.

  38. West Coast Yankee Fan October 23rd, 2010 at 12:23 am

    Cashman’s first really stupid decision of the 2011 season bringing Girardi back.

  39. LGY October 23rd, 2010 at 12:23 am

    “Now I am really happy that Cashman didn’t trade Montero for 1 year of Lee. Even if the Yanks had Lee they wouldn’t have won this series.”

    ————————-

    Texas would not even be in the ALCS if the Yankees got Lee.

  40. Erica in NY October 23rd, 2010 at 12:23 am

    Good night Yankee people!

  41. Betsy October 23rd, 2010 at 12:23 am

    G-C, sorry to hear about your grandma……………..

    I don’t feel that upset right now; I thought this day was coming all along. The only thing to do is to move forward…….

  42. Cashmoney October 23rd, 2010 at 12:24 am

    I take Kuroda and others if we lose Lee which is a possibility. We don’t need Lee. Any team could use a Lee type of pitcher. But we don’t need him to win. That said, if they get him I will be happy regardless of dollars and years.

    Joe and Jeter, mo will be back. I get a sense that the fiery competitor inside of Pettite will make him come back one more year for the grand prize.

    Pitching is a priority. If wood leaves, BP will need to be address as well as ancillary issues in bench depth and perhaps another OFer.

    Come to think of it, those are probably issue every teams faces every year.

    2011 can’t come soon enough…

  43. LGY October 23rd, 2010 at 12:24 am

    Betsy,

    Break down what our SP did this season like you just did, but even with the benefit of hindsight.

    How far did this team go?

  44. raja October 23rd, 2010 at 12:25 am

    G-C, your post is spot on. All the best.

  45. Ruby Friday October 23rd, 2010 at 12:25 am

    Many over zealous positive vibes and thoughts here = Alternate flawed reality.

  46. Jerkface October 23rd, 2010 at 12:25 am

    I would take 200 innings of 4 era from Hughes next season. He’ll win 18 games and be one of the top pitchers in baseball.

  47. Crash October 23rd, 2010 at 12:25 am

    Girardi should be back. I dont even see it as a debate. He is a good young manager.

    Just a tough series all around. The yanks got outplayed. They were out hit and out pitched. Hopefully they try to get this team younger.

  48. Betsy October 23rd, 2010 at 12:26 am

    I saw this post on another board and I agree:

    In both Game 4 and Game 7, Girardi left his starter in too long, and got burned. Both times there was ample evidence that the starter was ready to come out — and in Hughes’ case it was obvious to anyone watching the game that he had been surviving by the skin of his teeth the whole game.

    Girardi admitted himself that he went into this game thinking Wood for the 6th and 7th, Mo for the 8th and 9th. He was one out away from the 6th in a tie ballgame. Though the opposing pitcher was holding the Yankees down, and had a low pitch count, the opposing manager was already getting his bullpen ready.

    One out away. One out to get the game to the 6th inning tied, when your opponent is ready to go to middle relief and you’re ready to go to Kerry Wood and Mariano.

    And in that situation, knowing that you have CC Sabathia available and knowing that your game plan called for Kerry Wood in one third of an inning anyway, you don’t use either of those weapons and instead stick with your struggling starter and then bring in a reliever who’s looked terrible all series.

    Why? Because a spreadsheet says that over their extremely brief careers, Phil Hughes has done well against Vlad Guerrero and David Robertson has done well against Nelson Cruz.

    This is a manager with no feel for the game as it unfolds and no ability to be creative.

  49. TheStraw October 23rd, 2010 at 12:26 am

    If Girardi has to come back, hopefully he learns from his mistakes this year.

  50. raja October 23rd, 2010 at 12:27 am

    BTW, Wood is probably not leaving anywhere. Yankees hold a club option of $11 mil for 2011.

  51. JM October 23rd, 2010 at 12:27 am

    First edition of Yankees Hot Stove is Nov. 11 on YES. :)

  52. Betsy October 23rd, 2010 at 12:27 am

    Jerkface, top pitchers don’t throw to a 4 ERA…………..

  53. Jerkface October 23rd, 2010 at 12:28 am

    They aren’t optioning Wood for 11 million unless Mo retires.

  54. Betsy October 23rd, 2010 at 12:28 am

    LGY, I’m sorry – I’m not sure what your point is?

  55. Doreen October 23rd, 2010 at 12:28 am

    Well, that ought to make the Girardi “non-fan club” very happy. :lol:

    ****

    I don’t underestimate the pitch that TX is going to make to Cliff Lee. But I do think the Yankees will make a bigger pitch. And then it’s up to Cliff Lee and no one knows what he will decide or why.

    ***

    Phil Hughes feeling bad about the way this season ended will only serve to make him work harder this winter and next spring. I don’t worry about him.

    ***

    Joe Girardi might be a little stiff, but I never want to see a manager of the Yankees acting like Ron Washington. At least I don’t think so! (I hate him today, but I had always heard good things about his management style, and I know a lot of people were happy for him when he got the job with the Rangers a couple/few years ago.)

  56. G-C October 23rd, 2010 at 12:28 am

    Thanks for the kind words everyone.

    One thing that bugs me about Girardi is his lack of accountability with the media. He’s very Torre-like in the sense that he’s completely unwilling to ever admit he made a mistake. Torre’s catch phrase was “they were able to execute and we weren’t.” Girardi’s is “I liked the match-up.”

    If he has showed a bit of accountability after game four I wouldn’t be as down on him as I am now. But its the same thing with him over and over again. He’s not a rookie manager anymore. He’s four years into his managerial career and three years into his career here. Frustratingly, he’s shown very little improvement in the areas that have burned him time and time again. Bullpen over-management is probably his biggest flaw and the epitome of that (Aceves for Robertson) could have cost us a trip to the World Series last year. The ridiculousness of that move was lost in the fact that we did advance.

    If there’s anything to be said about Torre its that he seemed to have an uncanny knack, at least during the dynasty years, to push the right buttons at the right times. Whether it was starting Shane Spencer against Schilling in 2001 on a hunch that he’d take in the other way, or starting Ricky Ledee in 1998, or pinchhitting with Sojo or Hill in 2000. He very rarely seemed to get beat on the moves he made with conviction and not by the book. The “book” is what told him to not use his closer in a tie game on the road, which is why we lost the 2003 World Series.

    Girardi made two critical decisions tonight.

    1- Walking Hamilton to face Guerrero
    2- Bringing in Robertson for Cruz

    Whether its his fault or not, neither of those decisions played out correctly. And whether its fair or not, there’s something to be said for a manager that seems to consistently make moves that don’t work out.

  57. Jerkface October 23rd, 2010 at 12:28 am

    Jerkface, top pitchers don’t throw to a 4 ERA………

    But neither do bad ones! The average ERA for a #4 starter is 5, the average ERA for a #5 starter is over 6.

  58. Ruby Friday October 23rd, 2010 at 12:29 am

    ALCS and WS Champion Rangers , Lee catches his big payday in Texas and stays there.

  59. Captain Clutch October 23rd, 2010 at 12:29 am

    Wood is probably not leaving anywhere
    ———-

    The Yanks aren’t paying a set up man $11m

  60. Betsy October 23rd, 2010 at 12:29 am

    Robertson had a lousy post-season………….our pen could use more work. I would kill to re-sign Wood, but our only hope is if he only gets closing offers from bad/mediocre teams. Does he really want to close where the games don’t matter?

  61. Bret The Hitman October 23rd, 2010 at 12:29 am

    It’s amazing that this team cut two 35 year old players last year and they still look old.

    I think 2011 will be the final year the team looks old. Posada, Pettitte and Mo will all go out together at the end of next season.

    I just hope they get to do it as champions.

    Cashman better break out his A-master gameplan for the post season.

  62. Yankee tradition Steve howe style October 23rd, 2010 at 12:29 am

    CC: Over-rated. Did not pitch like an Ace. Texas had tons of hits off him. VERY lucky.
    Andy: Old. Could not get it done when it counted.
    Phil: Way over-matched. The league caught up to him in the second half and it continued in the playoffs.
    AJ: Done & done. What a waste of $. Way to go Ca$man.

  63. TheStraw October 23rd, 2010 at 12:30 am

    Younger is not always better. See Roy Halladay, Vlad Guerrero and Kobe Bryant fir examples.

  64. Betsy October 23rd, 2010 at 12:31 am

    Jerkface, I don’t think Phil will be bad, but if you’re talking about a top starter – he’ll have to do a lot better than a 4 ERA. I know SJ said he’s on the list of best young pitchers, but he’s probably near the bottom of that list. He’s sure not as good as Bumgarder at 21 or Matusz.

  65. igotid88 October 23rd, 2010 at 12:31 am

    girardi would be silly to look for another managers job. he can be the winningest manager in history if he stays. if winningest is a word. but you know what i mean

  66. igotid88 October 23rd, 2010 at 12:31 am

    girardi would be silly to look for another managers job. he can be the winningest manager in history if he stays. if winningest is a word. but you know what i mean

  67. Jeremy October 23rd, 2010 at 12:32 am

    Girardi is not a good young manager. He is average at best. A guy who lacks a feel for the game. A guy who goes by stats only based on small sample sizes which means nothing. And after he gets burned doing the same thing time and time again he refuses to learn his lesson and displays arrogance when others question him.

  68. pat October 23rd, 2010 at 12:32 am

    From ESPN Blog- BA being so close kinda surprised me.

    “A very depressed and “frustrated” — his word — GM Brian Cashman stood in the losing Yankees clubhouse and said. “They manhandled us,” Cashman said.

    In the series, the Yankees were outscored 38-19. They were outhit .304 to .301. And as you would expect, the Rangers ERA was 3.06 compared to the Yankees’ 6.58. Cashman was right, the Yankees were manhandled.”

  69. JM October 23rd, 2010 at 12:32 am

    Washington was very classy in the post-game. Started his interview by praising the Yankees.

  70. LGY October 23rd, 2010 at 12:33 am

    Betsy,

    You broke down next year’s rotation and said it’s an issue.

    Look at 2010

    CC- stud
    Andy- pitched well, but how often?
    Phil- up and down
    AJ- awful
    Javy- abysmal

    Result:

    2 wins away from the WS.

  71. Crash October 23rd, 2010 at 12:33 am

    Girardi did not leave Hughes out there too long. Hughes got Vlad out the at bat before. He only gave up 1 run. He was battling. Just made an awful pitch. Bringing Sabathia who has never been a reliever in the middle of an inning would of been a dumb move.

    Bottom line if you only have 2 reliable bullpen arms (Wood, Mariano) and your starters are going 5 innings you are in a lot of trouble.

  72. Jerkface October 23rd, 2010 at 12:33 am

    Betsy: Are you aware Matsuz is 23 and had a 4.3 ERA? Bumgarner is also a former #1 pitching prospect. So wow, a #1 pitching prospect potentially better than another number 1 pitching prospect? That never happens!

    Your point of view is forever skewed due to your former love for Hughes, it has been a sad act to watch.

  73. tampayank October 23rd, 2010 at 12:34 am

    I wish Posada would retire this offseason, he’s just bad behind the plate and most of the staff seem to never get in a rhythm w him(except Pettitte)

  74. Betsy October 23rd, 2010 at 12:34 am

    manhandled……..Cash was right. He’ll make changes, no doubt – but I really don’t know what he can do short of changing the pitching. He can’t force Lee to sign – that’s out of his hands and in Lee’s.

  75. Carl October 23rd, 2010 at 12:34 am

    # Jerkface October 23rd, 2010 at 12:28 am

    Jerkface, top pitchers don’t throw to a 4 ERA………

    But neither do bad ones! The average ERA for a #4 starter is 5, the average ERA for a #5 starter is over 6.

    I think all Yankee fans thought Hughes was going to win the Cy Young this year. I guess it’s been so long since the Yankees have broke a starter in People don’t understand how to be patient.

    Andy’s first full year as a starter he had a 4.17 ERA.

    Hughes? 4.19.

  76. BIG AL October 23rd, 2010 at 12:35 am

    Me, I’m proud of the New York Yankees, the season they gave their fans, and their effort, albeit in a losing cause, in the PS.

    I’m proud of Phil Hughes, the great first full season, and his efforts in the PS.

    I’m proud to call myself a Yankees fan, and proud of all those on this blog that never lost faith, and didn’t feel the urge to disparage our team at every turn. To all those faithful Yankees fans, I say thank you for being positive about our team, you made the blog worth reading, you all know who you are.

    I was going to say something about those that professed to be fans, but, could not find it in your hearts to stop ripping certain players and the team in general continuously, but thought you were no longer worth any effort.

  77. West Coast Yankee Fan October 23rd, 2010 at 12:35 am

    Cash will make very few changes.

  78. Bronx Jeers October 23rd, 2010 at 12:35 am

    I remember when the Lee trade was supposed to be happening and many (including myself) didn’t even think they needed him.

    Wanted him? Certainly, but didn’t see that pressing need.

    The rotation had 50+ wins between them at that point. And then the roof caved in.

  79. GreenBeret7 October 23rd, 2010 at 12:35 am

    Pat M., it’s my pleasure to send out the info and observations that i get from the kids on the farm. Hopefully, more can get involved next year and we’ll have more information from the first hand observations. I enjoy doing it and hopefully I will get to more of the Charleston and Tampa games next year. I really want to get to ST to see the kids against the ML players. Next year should be the first injection of youth into the offense, along with some new pitching help from the farm. It all starts tomorrow.

  80. Fran the original October 23rd, 2010 at 12:36 am

    First edition of Yankees Hot Stove is Nov. 11 on YES
    **********************************
    Looking forward to that.

  81. Betsy October 23rd, 2010 at 12:36 am

    LGY, yes that’s true, but they still need Lee IMO

  82. TheStraw October 23rd, 2010 at 12:36 am

    Crash-

    It wasn’t even that awful of a pitch, except that it was Vlad batting. It was outside, but letter high, and Vlad simply reached for it and crushed it.

  83. West Coast Yankee Fan October 23rd, 2010 at 12:36 am

    I don’t think Hal Steinbrenner gives a damn.

  84. joeman October 23rd, 2010 at 12:36 am

    team just wasn’t good enough…two many holes, LF,Catcher,SP…….

    3 of core 4 in 2011..Mo 42…Jorge 40…Andy 39..all you need to know

  85. Crash October 23rd, 2010 at 12:36 am

    pat October 23rd, 2010 at 12:32 am
    From ESPN Blog- BA being so close kinda surprised me.

    “A very depressed and “frustrated” — his word — GM Brian Cashman stood in the losing Yankees clubhouse and said. “They manhandled us,” Cashman said.

    In the series, the Yankees were outscored 38-19. They were outhit .304 to .301. And as you would expect, the Rangers ERA was 3.06 compared to the Yankees’ 6.58. Cashman was right, the Yankees were manhandled.”

    ————————

    Yeah Cashman is right. Its amazing the yanks even got this to game 6. The numbers just look ugly.

  86. G-C October 23rd, 2010 at 12:36 am

    Hughes could very well be the Pettitte of the next generation of Yankees.

    I see quite a few similarities in terms of their focus and demeanor on the mound.

    It also wasn’t too long ago that Pettitte was getting destroyed to the tune of about 10 runs in the 1996 WS as he pumped fastballs repeatedly over the plate with “not enough feel for his offspeed stuff.”

    Sound familiar?

  87. LGY October 23rd, 2010 at 12:37 am

    Bringing Girardi back is the right move, but he managed very poorly this series.

    He stuck too long with his starter in games 2, 4, and 6. Tonight he should have gone to Wood right away after they walked Hamilton.

    Even if you leave Hughes in for Vlad, it is ridiculous that Robertson was the one called upon to pitch in a huge spot and then Wood was then brought in after the Yankees were effectively out of the game already.

    That said, he was basically moving around and trying to make a pretty picture out of crap this series.

    He had a bad ALCS, but it wouldn’t have made much of a difference probably anyway. Bringing in a new manager would be a bad situation when hopefully Girardi can learn and improve.

  88. Captain Clutch October 23rd, 2010 at 12:37 am

    Phil was looked at like an ace when he had that great fastball and 07′ curveball. That 12-6 curveball was m.i.a this year and the one he threw was a very bad pitch for him. Good hitters absolutely tattooed his hanging curve all year. If he is going to be #2 starter or better he absolutely must develop his secondary pitches. You can’t be a top of the rotation pitcher with the stuff he has now. When he doesn’t have that unhittable fastball he is naked on the mound. It’s up to him to get his curveball back to being a really good pitch and improve his changeup otherwise he will be a mid 4 era guy.

  89. Betsy October 23rd, 2010 at 12:38 am

    Jerkface, you do realize that Matusz finished like a house afire pitching against some pretty tough teams? Don’t just take my word for it – if you go back to the O’s game threads, CB was just raving about him.

    A sad act, lol. Big deal – so I’m disappointed in him. You’re not a better fan because you’re keeping the faith.

  90. joeman October 23rd, 2010 at 12:39 am

    Cash is lucky Yankees got to game 1 of playoffs…..this team was on a drive for a while

  91. Betsy October 23rd, 2010 at 12:39 am

    Clutch, I agree…………and that is a very rational viewpoint. You’ll probably get crucified for it.

  92. TheStraw October 23rd, 2010 at 12:40 am

    Cash needs to get us some singles hitters to set the table for the power guys. This HR or die stuff needs to be readjusted to some degree.

  93. JM October 23rd, 2010 at 12:41 am

    Fran the original October 23rd, 2010 at 12:36 am
    First edition of Yankees Hot Stove is Nov. 11 on YES
    **********************************
    Looking forward to that.

    ______________________

    Me, too. :)

  94. tampayank October 23rd, 2010 at 12:42 am

    The 97 year off in between dynasty year doesn’t compare to the current state of the team, The Core 4 are all around 40 years old and not in ther 20s

    Need to build the current Yankees around Cano and Tex

  95. G-C October 23rd, 2010 at 12:42 am

    “He had a bad ALCS, but it wouldn’t have made much of a difference probably anyway. Bringing in a new manager would be a bad situation when hopefully Girardi can learn and improve.”

    ____________________________________________

    See, this is what concerns me.

    I’m not sure I see that willingness to improve.

    He got burned today for the same reasons he got burned in game four with Burnett. That literally was three days ago.

    He got burned last postseason several times with his ridiculous over-management of the bullpen.

    And he probably cost them at least four to five games this season by repeatedly making “deja vu” type mistakes.

    I think you give him another year, but if the same issues perpetuate next year, you have to seriously consider cutting ties. Even at his worst Torre was not a liability. Girardi is a tremendous one.

    Winning a World Series is difficult enough WITHOUT having a manager who stands as one of the biggest liabilities on the team.

  96. Carl October 23rd, 2010 at 12:43 am

    # Betsy October 23rd, 2010 at 12:39 am

    Clutch, I agree…………and that is a very rational viewpoint. You’ll probably get crucified for it.

    Come on Betsy, you think Phil is going to be content and not work on his secondary pitches? Hell does anyone think he won’t make adjustments?

  97. tyanksfan36 October 23rd, 2010 at 12:43 am

    For what its worth, I really think Andy comes back for at least another year. I don’t think he could be satisfied with the way his season went. Going down in july and not really making it back until the postseason. He still has great stuff and it would be a terrible waste if he were to retire after this season. I think he still loves the game enough that he would try again for a more complete season next year.

  98. randy l. October 23rd, 2010 at 12:43 am

    “I’m alive and healthy, I have 2 beautiful daughters that gave me three gorgeous granddaughters and and two beautiful great grand kids. Nothing gets better than that. ”

    gb7-

    i hope you live to see those great grand kids have kids …

    for one thing,it would make you a great great grandfather.

    just try to make old jokes at me then

    as for the yankees ending, disappointing as you say, but this team, as good as it was ,seemed flawed much of the year. on the bright side, there is a really strong nucleus to add to this winter.
    i’m really looking forward to seeing montero begin his yankee career next summer. i think the underachieving guys will come back to where they should be.

    it’ll be interesting how they redo the pitching staff. getting lee is of course the first step, but that’s no slam dunk. it’s going to be an interesting winter.

  99. raja October 23rd, 2010 at 12:44 am

    “They aren’t optioning Wood for 11 million unless Mo retires.”

    Who from the pen would you give the 8th inning to? Teams who are down in close games against the Yankees treat the 8th inning as if it were the 9th. And Wood is the most reliable guy. In the last 30 innings he pitched this season (inc playoffs), he gave up just 2 ER. That’s better than Mo’s.

  100. lil m October 23rd, 2010 at 12:45 am

    Chad and Sam: Thank you for your outstanding coverage throughout the season and postseason. You do a fantastic job. With all the issues that have plagued the blog of late (known to all and in no need of further attention), it remains the first, last, and sometimes only place to go for Yankees coverage. And some of the blog posters provide a depth of analysis and insider perspective hard to find outside (or sometimes even within) the world of professional journalism. It will continue to be a primary news source/ educational center / antidote-to-Yankees-hating-disguised-as-sports-coverage for all things pinstriped as the rest of the postseason plays out. GO National League champion (Giants definitely, Phillies not so much)!!!

  101. RSM October 23rd, 2010 at 12:45 am

    Yankees team ERA for ALCS = 6.58
    Yankees team BA for ALCS = .201
    Worst team BA ever in a 7 game series.

    There you have it.
    Actually, surprised it went 6 games.

  102. joeman October 23rd, 2010 at 12:46 am

    got some Hot Stove for you right here..

    #1…LFer
    #2…2 Sp
    #3..Catcher
    #4…LH RP
    #5..Better bench players

  103. BIG AL October 23rd, 2010 at 12:47 am

    Chad, Sam and LoHud staff -

    Thanks for a job well done.

  104. G. Love October 23rd, 2010 at 12:47 am

    Jeers,

    Show’s you what a good job Cashman was doing this year. He knew he had to get Lee because the roof was about to cave in on the rotation. Everyone thought we were being greedy, but he knew there were issues and we were a top starting pitcher short.

    This was a tough series to watch since it brought back all the negative from September.

    I’m not going to blame Girardi for the collapse that month since a lot of these players were also mailing it in and playing comfortably for the wild card.

    I still think that winning the division should have been more of a priority but Texas may have beat us in the ALDS the way they are playing this year.

    I’m just having a tough time with the fact that we just lost our season to Colby Lewis.

    You’d think after winning a title last year guys would be less pressured and wouldn’t be squeezing the sawdust out of the bats, but tonight we were pressing and when this team presses they lose.

    There’s not a lot of heavy lifting that can be done with this team. Cashman will resign the older guys because they are part of the fabric of the team.

    The only place alterations could be made are in the OF if a trade is made and in the rotation/pen.

    It’s frustrating watching hitters this talented collapse like this, but this is the team we root for and they were 2 games away from the WS playing as inconsistent as they have for quite some time.

    I hope the Yankees realize that keeping Jeter here until he’s handing out programs in the great hall isn’t his God given right. 2 more years? Sure. 3 years? Ok. Anything more than that is just driven by ego and not by what we witnessed in his at bats all season long.

    This team will be old for another couple of years and then we’re going to be on equal ground with the rest of the league when our older guys can no longer contribute.

    Cashman has his work cut out for him. Big time.

    As for retaining Girardi, I don’t love it but you can’t fire a guy who won a title and took you to the ALCS in the past 2 years.

    We’re stuck with him and he’s stuck with us. I don’t like his philosophy of in game decisions but there’s nothing to be done since he’s here for the long haul.

    Have a good off season everyone!

  105. G-C October 23rd, 2010 at 12:47 am

    If I were to have concerns about the state of this team, Phil Hughes would be at the very bottom of the list, right next to Robinson Cano.

    He is literally one of the last players on this roster I am worried about in the long term and it is really silly for anyone to fret about his future prospects.

    He’s one of the top young arms in the game and has a great head on his shoulders. If it weren’t for all the #1 prospect hype, there wouldn’t be a single person here who wasn’t fawning over him. He’s a 24 year old starter who just won 18 games in his first full season. Had he not been innings-restricted, he probably wins 20 games.

    He’s not an issue. And making him an issue isn’t going to do anything to help this team’s prospects for next year.

  106. BIG AL October 23rd, 2010 at 12:48 am

    Good night Yankees fans.

  107. Betsy October 23rd, 2010 at 12:48 am

    Carl, of course he’s going to work on them. Phil is a hard-worker and he cares. However, he did work on his change this off-season and then didn’t use it. We also have to see how his workload affects him from this year.

    Still and all, he was far from the only reason they lost.

  108. Jerkface October 23rd, 2010 at 12:50 am

    Matsuz pitching with no pressure must have been nice. Why should Matsuz get credit for 50 IP against sept. callups, while Hughes gets no credit for pitching well down the stretch while the yankees were trying to secure a playoff spot??

    Betsy, riddle me this: Hughes had a 3 ERA against all non-toronto teams in the second half. How is that not good??????

  109. randy l. October 23rd, 2010 at 12:51 am

    hughes had an excellent year.

    he started out ,after all , “competing” with joba,gaudin, mitre, and aceves fpr the fifth spot.

    i’d say he stepped up this year.

    he’s got nothing to feel bad about.

    he did his job and then some.

  110. Betsy October 23rd, 2010 at 12:51 am

    GLove pretty much said it all…………..and Cashman’s comments indicate he won’t be standing still. Still, aside from the SP, where is there room to make changes? He needs his hitters to not slump all at the same time, to have better at bats with RISP…….and also for his starters to not fall apart.

  111. joeman October 23rd, 2010 at 12:52 am

    Phil Hughes had a 4.19 era on a team that scored a lot of runs when he pitched thus the 18 win season

  112. Carl October 23rd, 2010 at 12:52 am

    # Betsy October 23rd, 2010 at 12:48 am

    Carl, of course he’s going to work on them. Phil is a hard-worker and he cares. However, he did work on his change this off-season and then didn’t use it. We also have to see how his workload affects him from this year.

    He didn’t need his change up. He didn’t need his curve for a while. After this year I’m sure he knows he needs them.

    I’m expecting a good year.

  113. raja October 23rd, 2010 at 12:53 am

    I agree G Love. Cashman has a lot of work this off season. At least, it should make for fun reading.

    On that note, good night Yankees fans. Hope we have a good off season and a great 2011.

  114. Fran the original October 23rd, 2010 at 12:56 am

    I expect the Yankees to be very active this off season.
    With that, good night everyone.

  115. GreenBeret7 October 23rd, 2010 at 12:56 am

    Randy, try as you might in attempts to bag on me about my age, but, you’re still using Roman numerals in counting your kids, grandkids, great and so on. I’ll never live to be that age.

    How are things in your area, Bud? Hope all is well. The next two years should bring an interesting group of young players in. I assume that NYYs will bring in one starter (Lee), bring up at least one young starter and fill bullpen needs with a couple of kids. Unless the Yanks get swamped with offers for Nunez, Laird and Romine, among a few others, those will replace Pena, Cervelli and the bench. Watch for vast improvements from Brewer, Mesa and maybe Suttle.

  116. joeman October 23rd, 2010 at 12:57 am

    for sure this off-season

    Jeter gets married
    Yankees get 2 SP
    Yankees get a LFer
    Yankees get a catcher…..my vote V-Mart

  117. RSM October 23rd, 2010 at 12:59 am

    Since Cash is already in Texas, should he just drop the blank check off for Lee before flying home? Save a few bucks on courier fees.

  118. Captain Clutch October 23rd, 2010 at 12:59 am

    I am really curious to see how many years they are going to give Jeter. For the next couple of years the dh is going to be used for the old farts who can’t field anymore instead of a real dh. Jeter probably has one more year of playing SS, Posada should be the dh 80% of the time next year and next year will probably be Arod’s last year at 3rd base. Should be interesting..I really hope that Cash doesn’t give Jeter more than 2 years.

  119. G. Love October 23rd, 2010 at 1:00 am

    Betsy,

    If Cashman is going to be aggressive and make any lineup changes then Swisher, Gardner and Granderson better keep a bag packed since there is no one in the infield he can trade.

    I don’t even see him signing a top DH due to all the age in the IF. Arod played 3b like a wooden Indian a lot of this season. I won’t even get into the fact that his power seems to have left him. 3 of the balls he hit tonight were HR’s off his bat a few years ago instead of gappers.

    We’re going to see the same team plus Montero unless Cashman starts dealing from the OF.

    The rotation will be different I think. If Pettitte waffles, he’ll fill his spot quick this year.

  120. xcv October 23rd, 2010 at 1:01 am

    it took 6 games for these crappy rangers to finish off yanks. series should’ve been over in 4. yanks played like the pirates and should be embarrassed by how thoroughly they were dominated.

    giants win tomorrow and ws in 6

  121. Carl October 23rd, 2010 at 1:01 am

    # joeman October 23rd, 2010 at 12:57 am

    for sure this off-season

    Jeter gets married
    Yankees get 2 SP
    Yankees get a LFer
    Yankees get a catcher…..my vote V-Mart

    V-Mart? Come on man.

  122. joeman October 23rd, 2010 at 1:01 am

    Jeter will get 3 years
    Jorge should pack it in
    ARod will be at 3rd base for 4 more years

  123. Jerkface October 23rd, 2010 at 1:02 am

    I won’t even get into the fact that his power seems to have left him

    He slugged .500 and hit 30 HRs in 140 games.

  124. RSM October 23rd, 2010 at 1:02 am

    Captain,
    They really do have to be careful with contact length for Jeter. Unfortunately, once he can no longer play short, there really is no role for him.

  125. tipsie October 23rd, 2010 at 1:02 am

    I’m a huge Phil fan. I’m not upset with him, because I don’t think he was ready for this kind of a spot in a 7 game series. Rather, I’m upset with the state of their rotation that he was put in this position. It speaks to Burnett and Vazquez having the abominable years that they did.

    I think that the plan in December when the trade with Atlanta was made was to shape a seven game series with CC, Andy, AJ, and Javy.

    After a crushing Game 1 loss, the Rangers could have been put away in Game 2. We didn’t have the right “veteran” guy in there.

    I didn’t have a wildly confident feeling about tonight, again because I didn’t think Phil was “ready” for this position (look at his second half inconsistency; his inability to put hitters away with 2 strikes all season long).

    That being said, I cannot believe how bad some of our hitters looked against all types of pitching. ARod fouling off 88 MPH fastballs down the middle? Swisher hitting 2-0 fastballs 45 feet? Man, for ARod, what a difference a year makes.

  126. G-C October 23rd, 2010 at 1:03 am

    I’m a huge Gardner fan.

    But in my ideal world, we use him and one of Banuelos/Betances/Brackman as a starting package for Greinke.

    Then bring in Crawford.

    I think you could call the offseason complete at that point.

    Sabathia
    Greinke
    Hughes
    Pettitte
    Burnett

    Looks pretty good to me.

  127. Bronx Jeers October 23rd, 2010 at 1:03 am

    Show’s you what a good job Cashman was doing this year. He knew he had to get Lee because the roof was about to cave in on the rotation. Everyone thought we were being greedy, but he knew there were issues and we were a top starting pitcher short.

    ——————————————————————————————————————-

    If the Lee trade happened…..

    1.Texas still wins the West.

    2. Yanks take the East

    3. Yanks beat Texas in ALDS

    4. Yanks are playing either the Rays or the Twins in the ALCS with with CC, Lee and Andy each getting 2 starts with Phil in game 4.

    I really think the Yanks are in the WS with Lee. I think that rotation would be extremely difficult to beat.

    Do you give up Montero to possibly win one Championship? Apparently the Yankee organizations answer to that question is yes.

    But according to our new buddy here, Hal doesn’t give a damn.

  128. joeman October 23rd, 2010 at 1:03 am

    # Carl October 23rd, 2010 at 1:01 am

    # joeman October 23rd, 2010 at 12:57 am

    for sure this off-season

    Jeter gets married
    Yankees get 2 SP
    Yankees get a LFer
    Yankees get a catcher…..my vote V-Mart

    V-Mart? Come on man.
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    if he’s there they will sniff

  129. stuart a October 23rd, 2010 at 1:05 am

    they develop a new core. lee, werth, trade swish and ad some modest modest 4th outfielder…

  130. Crash October 23rd, 2010 at 1:06 am

    If they do make a run at an outfielder. I’m not sure they need to though. I rather have Jayson Werth instead of Crawford.

  131. stuart a October 23rd, 2010 at 1:07 am

    yep texas still would have won this series without Lee. man where do you people come up with this. they pitch cj wilson, the guy tonight and hunter, against cc, lee, and pettitte, get real…………

    1 ace makes that much difference.. great pitching hides many warts…ask the diamondbacks in 2000…………

  132. RSM October 23rd, 2010 at 1:08 am

    V-mart?
    Because they need ANOTHER catcher with poor defensive skills?

    Posada and Montero can share catching and DH duties. So, what they need is a good defensive back up catcher.
    Cervelli is trade bait.

  133. Captain Clutch October 23rd, 2010 at 1:09 am

    They really do have to be careful with contact length for Jeter. Unfortunately, once he can no longer play short, there really is no role for him
    ———-

    That is why he should get a 1 year deal. But we all know he will get 2-3 and after next year they will have no position for him. Arod is going to need the dh spot after next year and they don’t need a .260 singles hitter dhing for them.

  134. Crash October 23rd, 2010 at 1:10 am

    If they do decide to keep Posada as the catcher next year. Then they can move Swish to DH and have Werth play rightfield. That would improve the offense. But Posada likely wont be able to physically hold up to catch 110 games. Plus Jeter and A-Rod are getting old. They might need more DH Time. Yanks are kind of in a tough position with there lineup.

  135. tipsie October 23rd, 2010 at 1:10 am

    Send Tony Pena to work with Montero on defense NOW. All winter long.

  136. Betsy October 23rd, 2010 at 1:10 am

    GLove, Granderson is staying, but I can see Swish going. I’d prefer Gardner to go ……..but you can’t ignore Swish’s awful at-bats in the post-season. He’s a very good player, though and I admit – who would replace him in the OF?

  137. joeman October 23rd, 2010 at 1:10 am

    they had a catcher in 09 that could play D…went with Cervelli instead

  138. G. Love October 23rd, 2010 at 1:10 am

    Jeers,

    I also believe we were the Lee trade away from #28. What stinks is that the team who were able to trade for him beat us. It’s not like Texas developed him in their system or anything. He’s a mercenary at this point and tipped the balance of power.

    That said, there is no excuse to losing to Colby Lewis 2 times in a series. The guy was out of MLB and playing in Japan. I don’t care if he “learned to pitch” in Japan. He’s exactly the type of starter we are supposed to eat up.

    There is an issue with this lineup. It’s one of those things that is hard to put your finger on since the names in the lineup and their final stats all appear to be awesome.

    Somehow though, they get bedazzled by mediocrity way too much.

    If it’s not a walk or a HR they just have way too much trouble getting on base and scoring runs.

    I remember years ago we all were begging for Cashman to come up with some contact hitters who could situationally hit.

    We won a title last year without them, but I’d still love a few one of these days.

  139. Bo knows October 23rd, 2010 at 1:10 am

    I’ll never get this “Girardi overmanaged the BP. This is the guy that rebuilt the BP each year. Had two starting pitchers all season (Andy gone for two months), AJ and Javy blew up, which taxed the BP big time. Still 95 wins and into the second round of the playoffs. What is it that you people would have him do differently. Cost the Yankees Game 6 – the offense was three hits and a run on a WP. Repeating the nauseous Karap mouthed by paper hawkers is embarassing to listen to.

    Today Hughes was shakey from the get go, running on fumes from a long tough season, as in all the ongoing pitching from the beginning of the series. CC was worn out from the last few years of too many innings. The BP had a couple of tough months due to the SP promblems. It was a good year, good entertainment, move along now.

    If Girardi is such a bad manager, who out there should be a replacement. rhetorical question. The only guy who comes to mind is Pena and he is part of the decision making process.

  140. Jerkface October 23rd, 2010 at 1:11 am

    A-rod had a higher Isolated Power than he did in 2006. I expect A-rod to hit a bunch of HRs next season, barring injury. The problem with age now is going to be how much time he spends on the DL, but I wouldn’t worry that he will suddenly stop hitting HRs.

  141. Carl October 23rd, 2010 at 1:11 am

    Yankees aren’t gonna trade Swish because of the postseason.

  142. joeman October 23rd, 2010 at 1:14 am

    Gardner….I just don’t get it about him….0-2..1-2…2-2..every at bat & how many great plays have you seen him make in the OF with a very average arm

  143. G. Love October 23rd, 2010 at 1:16 am

    Jerkface,

    I hope your numbers prove right. To me it seemed he hit a lot more doubles in situations he was hitting HR’s this year. We could have used a HR or two in this series.

  144. Jerkface October 23rd, 2010 at 1:17 am

    how many great plays have you seen him make in the OF with a very average arm

    He threw out 12 runners. Made numerous great catches in the gaps that no other OFer would get close to.

  145. joeman October 23rd, 2010 at 1:18 am

    Cashman “absolutely” wants Girardi back…
    ——————————————————————-
    Why ?

  146. joeman October 23rd, 2010 at 1:19 am

    # Jerkface October 23rd, 2010 at 1:17 am

    how many great plays have you seen him make in the OF with a very average arm

    He threw out 12 runners. Made numerous great catches in the gaps that no other OFer would get close to.
    ——————————————————————————–

    BS

  147. Carl October 23rd, 2010 at 1:20 am

    Gonna sleep.

    Joeman is just a troll.

  148. Jerkface October 23rd, 2010 at 1:20 am

    Uh look at the numbers yourself? He had 12 assists. And one of the highest OF defensive ratings by any metric you wanna look at.

  149. tampayank October 23rd, 2010 at 1:20 am

    “# Captain Clutch October 23rd, 2010 at 1:09 am

    They really do have to be careful with contact length for Jeter. Unfortunately, once he can no longer play short, there really is no role for him
    ———-

    That is why he should get a 1 year deal. But we all know he will get 2-3 and after next year they will have no position for him. Arod is going to need the dh spot after next year and they don’t need a .260 singles hitter dhing for them.

    that’s the issue w/ Jeter and why I don’t think he should get even 3 years…I wish he would go year to year. He doesn’t have the 30HR power like AROD where he can just slide to DH to finish his career. You can’t have no power as your everyday DH. I wonder how Cashman plays this

  150. Bo knows October 23rd, 2010 at 1:21 am

    Gardner played with a bad wrist and a thumb that requires surgery for the last half of the season and still put up quality numbers.

    I’m waiting for the “Bring back Melky, he’s a gamer” posts in 3, 2, 1.

  151. UnKnown October 23rd, 2010 at 1:21 am

    KC wants Swisher and would trade him for Grienke. But Grienke flat out has made it publicly known that he doesn’t want to come to NY and would rather be with a smaller market team. And Grienke would be terrible in NY, fold like a tent.

    I like Swish and all but dude you have to do something in the Post Season. That is 0 for 2 now for you Swish.

    Great Great Post G-C at the beginning of this thread.

  152. joeman October 23rd, 2010 at 1:26 am

    # Carl October 23rd, 2010 at 1:20 am

    Gonna sleep.

    Joeman is just a troll.
    —————————————-
    big word around here……that I’m not for those how no me..been a Yankee fan before you were put on this earth

  153. Crash October 23rd, 2010 at 1:28 am

    Gardner played a great left field. He made difficult plays that many other leftfielders wouldn’t catch look routine. If you didn’t see that this year than you are blind. The guy covers a lot of ground. He held a lot hitters to singles instead of doubles because of how quickly he gets to the ball.
    J
    ust look at the Hamilton hit in the first inning today. The only reason Andrus didn’t score on that play is because of how shallow Gardner can play because of his speed.

  154. Bronx Jeers October 23rd, 2010 at 1:28 am

    On July 20th the Yankee scored two runs off Sean O’ Sullivan in the first inning and then went into an extended state of offensive arrhythmia which greatly contributed to their sudden death on October 22nd.

    True story! :wink:

  155. Bronx Jeers October 23rd, 2010 at 1:34 am

    jonmorosi I asked Cliff Lee if it’s more likely he will return to #Texas if #Rangers win #WS. He said: “I would like to hope so.” #Yankees #MLB #ALCS

    ———————————————————————————————————–

    Translation: “If we win, it will be because of me so the Rangers going to have to pay me more than anyone else otherwise I’m out of here.”

  156. Bo knows October 23rd, 2010 at 1:35 am

    On July 20th the Yankee scored two runs off Sean O’ Sullivan in the first inning and then went into an extended state of offensive arrhythmia which greatly contributed to their sudden death on October 22nd.

    True story!

    True, so true. The sputtering resonated like a messed up wiring harness in your Ferrari.

  157. Bo knows October 23rd, 2010 at 1:36 am

    Gardner could walk on water and some fans would complain about soggy sandals.

  158. tipsie October 23rd, 2010 at 1:40 am

    Thank you Mariano.

    Postseason

    6.1 IP
    4 hits
    0 runs
    0 BB
    2 K

    Lifetime postseason ERA 0.71

  159. hatfieldms October 23rd, 2010 at 1:41 am

    Some of you people are a trip. Swisher isn’t going anywhere, nor should he, Gardner isn’t going anywhere, nor should he. They will bring in lee, resign their veterans, pick up some bench players and get ready for 2011

  160. Betsy October 23rd, 2010 at 1:42 am

    http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas.....ve-my-team

    As his teammates doused each other with ginger ale on the infield, Lee said he’s never felt more at home on a team than right now. Only part is that is Texas’ proximity to Lee’s native Arkansas, where his family still lives.

    “I love this situation. I love my team. I love my teammates,” Lee said. “It’s been a fun ride. It’s been an unbelievable experience. But free agency is stuff that I’m going to worry about when the season is over. Right now, I’m worried about giving this team a chance to win when I take the mound and us playing as a team and pulling for each other.”

    Lee said before the playoffs started that winning a World Series could heavily influence his decision. He stands by the statement while stressing that it’s premature to discuss at this point.

    “I would like to hope so, but I’m not too worried about that stuff right now,” said Lee, who went 3-0 with an 0.75 ERA and 34 strikeouts during the Rangers’ run through the AL playoffs. “I’m more worried about us getting that ring. That’s the ultimate. Free agency and that stuff is going to take care of itself later. Right now, we want to be standing at the end with the trophy.”

  161. Betsy October 23rd, 2010 at 1:43 am

    Lee is definitely staying in Texas……………whereas before his comments sounded rather blah as far as Texas, he seems really happy there. I’m assuming the Yankees are not getting him.

  162. Angel October 23rd, 2010 at 1:48 am

    What exactly else is Cliff Lee supposed to say? Parsing every. single. word. he says at this point for hidden meanings on what he’s going to do next season is absolutely pointless. The guy is HARDLY going to say anything bad about the team he’s going to pitch for in the World Series in a few days. That would be crazy. He’s not shutting to door on not moving on either that I could see.

  163. Bronx Jeers October 23rd, 2010 at 1:50 am

    The sputtering resonated like a messed up wiring harness in your Ferrari.

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    Actually my favorite subway cars are made by Kawasaki.

  164. Angel October 23rd, 2010 at 1:52 am

    I suddenly discovered over the last two weeks that I have a LOT of Rangers friends as FB friends. Funny, how I didn’t know they were before now. :lol:

    I’ve also discovered something else. When you aren’t used to winning… being able to celebrate winning with grace and class is apparently not easy and doesn’t come naturally to people. Especially if they really hate the Yankees. :)

  165. Betsy October 23rd, 2010 at 1:52 am

    http://www.northjersey.com/spo....._game.html

    And once it was time to move the chess pieces, the manager made a critical error in the fifth inning, summoning David Robertson to replace Phil Hughes after Vladimir Guerrero’s two-run double had given Texas a 3-1 lead.

    Girardi picked Robertson – why else? – because “he had good numbers” against Nelson Cruz. Good numbers? The two had meet just three times in their respective careers – just three at-bats.

    Somehow, that was enough of a sample size for Girardi to overlook Kerry Wood, who was already warming up or even CC Sabathia, who was available for relief duty. Just once, Girardi should’ve made his decision based on his baseball instincts, asking: who’s the best available arm with the pennant slipping away?

    *******

    I had no problem pitching Phil in game 2, but this is right.

  166. Carl October 23rd, 2010 at 1:54 am

    # Betsy October 23rd, 2010 at 1:43 am

    Lee is definitely staying in Texas……………whereas before his comments sounded rather blah as far as Texas, he seems really happy there. I’m assuming the Yankees are not getting him.

    He’s just saying what he’s supposed to say.

  167. Angel October 23rd, 2010 at 1:55 am

    I’m waiting for the “Bring back Melky, he’s a gamer” posts in 3, 2, 1.
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    You’re a day late and a dollar short, I’m afraid

    Those happened back in tonights game thread, I believe. Before they’d even lost. :D

  168. ChokeXOnXFailure October 23rd, 2010 at 1:55 am

    “I love this situation. I love my team. I love my teammates”, are not words that were NECESSARY. He could’ve gotten by with, the rhetoric/cliche about worrying about pitching the games now, and not free agency. The other stuff was thrown in because he likely means it.

    I do not, at this point, see him coming here next year.

  169. SAS October 23rd, 2010 at 1:55 am

    Hi Everyone,

    I am always sad at the end of a baseball season so I am sad tonight, but I love my Yankees. They just didn’t have it this year. Am I disappointed sure, but the Yankees are like a second family so I love them.

    ————————————————————
    G-C,

    Cherish the days you have left with your grandmother. Your memories of her will always make you happy. This I know as a fact. I treasure my parents and grandparents every day of my life.

    We lost a dear friend last week. He was 67 years old, but he will always be with me.

  170. AussieBaseballFan October 23rd, 2010 at 1:57 am

    Thanks to all the guys here for a great season of baseball! I don’t know where I’d be without this blog to follow!

    Here’s hoping for a better season in 2011 :D

  171. Angel October 23rd, 2010 at 1:59 am

    ChokeXOnXFailure October 23rd, 2010 at 1:55 am
    “I love this situation. I love my team. I love my teammates”, are not words that were NECESSARY. He could’ve gotten by with, the rhetoric/cliche about worrying about pitching the games now, and not free agency. The other stuff was thrown in because he likely means it.

    I do not, at this point, see him coming here next year.
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    But you’re a glass half empty person. :P In other news, the Pope is Catholic.

  172. SAS October 23rd, 2010 at 2:08 am

    :arrow: “These guys dominated us”

  173. Yeah October 23rd, 2010 at 3:28 am

    I’d rather have Ralph Wiggum manage this team. That’s right, I’d rather have a fictional dimwit over Joe Girardi.

    Why? Because Ralph would never pull Phil Hughes for Dave Robertson in an elimination game a couple of nights after Robertson gave up five runs in a third of an inning. Or make any of the countless other idiotic moves Joe’s made over the past couple of years.

    Anybody > Joe.

  174. Yeah October 23rd, 2010 at 3:29 am

    Let me add: Even the Cubs don’t want Girardi. The Cubs. But re-signing him is our highest priority?

    Joe is a worse manager than Michael Kay is a play-by-play man. Yeah, I said it.

  175. Yankee2010 October 23rd, 2010 at 1:39 pm

    Girardi sucks. That is all.

  176. Fondo Motz October 23rd, 2010 at 5:48 pm

    test

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