World Series Game 1 notes and lineups
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Oct 27, 2010 
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My guess is you were more excited about this day when it was happening a year ago.
No Yankees in this year’s Series, but tonight is a premier pitching matchup for all baseball fans. That is, of course, assuming you can actually watch the World Series.
“It’s going to be kind of hard unless FOX and Cablevision (reach an agreement),” Joe Girardi said. “I did put on Game 6 (of the NLCS) on my computer. I will watch parts of it, I’m sure. It’s kind of hard to be a baseball guy and not watch it. There are times that the games start and you put the kids to bed. But I’ll watch it.”
Girardi and I are in the same boat. I’ll either find a local establishment where I can watch the game, or I’ll follow along online. Either way, it’s Game 1 of the World Series. Yankees or no Yankees, it’s worth seeing.
• For those of you who can watch: Pregame coverage on FOX begins at 7:30 p.m. First pitch is scheduled for 7:57.
• The ceremonial first pitch will be a collective effort from Orlando Cepeda, Monte Irvin, Juan Marichal, Willie Mays, Willie McCovey and Gaylord Perry.
• Major League Baseball just passed along the lineups for both teams.
RANGERS
Elvis Andrus SS
Michael Young 3B
Josh Hamilton CF
Vlad Guerrero RF
Nelson Crus LF
Ian Kinsler 2B
Bengie Molina C
Mitch Moreland 1B
Cliff Lee LHP
GIANTS
Andres Torres CF
Freddy Sanchez 2B
Buster Posey C
Pat Burrell LF
Cody Ross RF
Aubrey Huff 1B
Juan Uribe 3B
Edgar Rentaria SS
Tim Lincecum RHP
That’s a cool Associated Press picture of Cody Ross
Cablevision will change their tune rather quickly if people just left their crappy service.
>Tom in N.J. October 27th, 2010 at 5:26 pm
Maybe there’s another award in Cano’s future and this was a way to recognize the others?
Ha. That took me a sec to figure out, but then I figured it out.
1 Jeter
2 Granderson
3 Tex
4 Alex
5 Cano
6 Jorge
7 Berkman
8.Swisher
9 Gardner
I reject your version of reality and choose to observe my own.
Yanks in 5!
Wave Your Hat October 27th, 2010 at 5:17 pm
I used Cotts. I only estimated Hughes +$4M, Logan +$160K, Jeter -$2.6M, & Cliff Lee +$22M
Of course others are getting raises on 40-Man:
Tex +$3M, Cano +$1M, Grandy +$2.7M, Swish +$2.3M, Golson +$400K
Should be $231.54M instead of $250M as I added Cliff twice!!
# RayVT October 27th, 2010 at 5:14 pm
There are some raises missed by the estimated salaries for 2011. (Swish & Grandy to name 2)
TOTAL Pos’n 2010 2011 EST
1 Posada, Jorge c $13,100,000 $13.10
2 Cervelli, Francisco c $410,800 $0.41
3 Teixeira, Mark 1b $20,625,000 $23.13
4 Cano, Robinson 2b $9,000,000 $10.00
5 Rodriguez, Alex 3b $33,000,000 $32.00
6 Jeter, Derek ss $22,600,000 $20.00
7 Gardner, Brett of $452,500 $0.45
8 Granderson, Curtis cf $5,500,000 $8.25
9 Swisher, Nick lf-rf $6,850,000 $9.10
10 Sabathia, CC lhp-s $24,286,714 $24.29
11 Hughes, Phil rhp-s $447,000 $4.50
12 Pettitte, Andy lhp-s $11,750,000 $12.00
13 Burnett, A.J. rhp-s $16,500,000 $16.50
14 Brackman, Andrew rhp $1,237,500 $1.24
15 Noesi, Hector rhp $0.40
16 Nova, Ivan rhp $0.40
17 Rivera, Mariano rhp $15,000,000 $15.00
18 Aceves, Alfredo rhp $435,650 $0.44
19 Chamberlain, Joba rhp-s $487,975 $1.50
20 Logan, Boone lhp $0.75
21 Marte, Damaso lhp $4,000,000 $4.00
22 Robertson, David rhp $426,650 $0.43
23 Sanchez, Romulo rhp $0.40
24 Nunez, Eduardo ss $0.40
25 Pena, Ramiro inf $412,100 $0.41
26 Golson, Greg cf $15,000 $0.40
27 Albaladejo, Jonathan rhp $0.40
28 Corona, Reegie inf $0.40
29 De La Rosa, Wilkin lhp $0.40
30 Igawa, Kei $4,000,000 $4.00
31 Mitre, Sergio rhp $850,000 $0.85
32 Russo, Kevin 2b $0.40
33 Thames, Marcus dh-of $900,000 $0.90
34 Cliff Lee SP1 $22.00
35 83 Jesus Montero C $0.45
36 84 Austin Romine C $0.45
37 $0.45
38 $0.45
39 $0.45
40 $0.45
TOTAL 40 Man 2010 = $213,359,389
TOTAL 40 Man 2011 = $256,237,200 Projected above
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I just added everything up, and it comes out to 232 mil, not 256 mil.
yeah!!! what Jeers said!
Bronx Jeers! I reject your rejection of reality and refuse to even take it into accoun…
Wait! Swish 8th? What the hell is wrong with you?
RayVT-
But they won’t pay the full salary on a number of those guys when they aren’t on the 25 man roster, so it will be less than $231MM by some amount I didn’t calculate,
Bronx Jeers, they’re in the NL park. You need a pitcher in that lineup!
Dylan October 27th, 2010 at 5:34 pm
I agree! I added Cliff Lee twice along with some minimum players to round out the 40 man roster.
Fox declined Cablevisions offer.
No WS for me.
Wave Your Hat October 27th, 2010 at 5:37 pm
I think the numbers Cotts uses are the ones for MLB Luxury Tax.
# RayVT October 27th, 2010 at 5:41 pm
Dylan October 27th, 2010 at 5:34 pm
I agree! I added Cliff Lee twice along with some minimum players to round out the 40 man roster.
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lol I wish we could add two Cliff Lee’s! Sadly, the cloning process would be difficult and illegal. Not to mention, he might not have the same aggressive mentality, or the baseball IQ.
Now Jeter, Mo & Andy may all take cuts or defferred payments that somehow could reduce the payroll for 2011. Of course Andy may not come back. Marte & Igawa’s $4M each come off the books in 2012. ARod’s 2012 cost go down $2M as well.
pat October 27th, 2010 at 5:42 pm
Fox declined Cablevisions offer.
No WS for me.
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Pat -
I posted this earlier. You can go to ivi.com, and get all the NY & Seattle stations, including FOX for $4.95/month. The first month is free, so you can watch real TV, on any and all computers in your home. After 30 days, cancel. There is no contract required.
I use it to watch the NY Giants FB, cheaper than paying DIRECTV for the NFL package.
Dylan October 27th, 2010 at 5:47 pm
These salary issues do become complicated. LOL! Maybe we could get a 2 for 1 special with Cliff Lee & Clone Cliff Lee.
Corona, Romine, Igawa and De La Rosa won’t be on the 40 man roster next year, though. If I had to make a guess, Sanchez and Mitre won’t either. Laird will be, however.
my prediction: cashman goes into ninja mode and we don’t hear much all off season. jeter and rivera don’t seem like they want their negotiations to be public. andy will let cash know and there will be a quick contract.
cliff lee is the wild card, but cash seems to like to do things quietly
>These salary issues do become complicated. LOL! Maybe we could get a 2 for 1 special with Cliff Lee & Clone Cliff Lee.
So… Cliff Lee and King Felix?
# RayVT October 27th, 2010 at 5:50 pm
Dylan October 27th, 2010 at 5:47 pm
These salary issues do become complicated. LOL! Maybe we could get a 2 for 1 special with Cliff Lee & Clone Cliff Lee.
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Buy one, gets one 50% off. lol there is no guarantee that Clone Cliff Lee would ever be as good as the original Cliff Lee, but I would take him at a discount! I would make him a relief pitcher. Could you imagine how demoralizing it would be for other teams, when they finally knock Cliff Lee out of the game only to face the same pitcher?
Bronx Jeers, they’re in the NL park. You need a pitcher in that lineup!
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My version of reality has the AL winning the ASG.
Arod hit a walf-off 3 run homer.
Gotta run, traffic’s tight and I’m meeting Minka and Cameron for some pre-game mojitos.
I have zero interest in a Yankee-less World Series.
GreenBeret7 October 27th, 2010 at 5:50 pm
You are probably right, but there is a minimum salary for the 40-man roster which most of those make.
Even if I had Fox, I wouldn’t watch……..
LGY, I said we have unwieldy contracts – not that the budget is unwieldy. Hal has a budget – we know that’s true. Cash already said that we aren’t going to have a lot of $$$ coming off the books this year and you yourself said we now have to deal with raises for Joba, etc.. in arbitration. If Lee signs, he eats up a giant portion of the budget and that means Cash will have to be creative in terms of improvements he can make. Hal is not George – he’s just not. That is not a criticism of him, it’s a fact. I think Hal is a terrific owner.
The only interest I have in the WS is that the Rangers lose. My… um… “sources” say that a Rangers loss increases the changes of a Yankee Lee victory.
Also, LGY – they turn contentious because I don’t appreciate having my words twisted. I have to watch what I say on this board because when I make comments that people don’t agree with, I get mocked. How sad is that? You and I don’t agree much on anything, especially Phil, and maybe I’m just tired of those conversations taking the turn that they did.
Seeing a Texas team get beat by a California team, San Francisco at that, would make me smile.
Fran the Original:
Please put me down on the world series chart for
the Giants in 6 games.
Please give my condolences to Trisha.
Thanks.
Fran
Gigantes in 6
Romine is 1-3, Pirela is 3-4 with 2 doubles (1 CS, 1 error, Heyer in 2 innings, 1 hit, 1 run, 2 walks 1 strikeout. Laird is 1-3 with a solo homer.
RayVT October 27th, 2010 at 6:01 pm
GreenBeret7 October 27th, 2010 at 5:50 pm
You are probably right, but there is a minimum salary for the 40-man roster which most of those make
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I’m guessing that the Yankees might move some of those like Albaladejo, Sanchez, Corona in minor league deals. Nothing major involving those, but, I fully expect Nova to be moved in part of a larger deal.
I have cablevision and I hooked up an indoor antenna to my tv and am able to get channel 5.
Betsy
Lee is the improvement Cashman seems to be deciding to make. Cash can spend that money anyway he chooses.
What is different under Hal?
It looks like the Yankees are will be going with something like a 220 to 230 million dollar payroll next year.
They were at 213 this past season?
Would it be higher under George?
GB, thanks for the updates!
Because the Giants are on the West Coast now, we have a tendency to forget the rich history they have and the legendary players that were a part of their organization.
One of the highlights of our visit to AT&T Park was seeing all the photographs and memorabilia from the franchise. I’ve got pictures – perhaps during this series, I’ll post them.
Go Giants!!
LGY, and Lee is the biggest and best improvement they can make. Either way, my comments were not meant as criticism of Hal.
Not watching but GO GIANTS! If George was around he would sign Crawford, Lee and anyone else he wanted! Would he have sent Costanza on the recruiting trip though?
Romine finished 2-4 with a pair of singles. Laird had a mixed day with a 1-4 with the solo homer, but 3 strike outs.
My pleasure, Betsy.
gb7,
my understanding is that laird has the stick to be in the show but his defense was holding him back. is he improving? is his outfield play acceptable?
thanks
GreenBeret7
Do you see Romine as the future starting catcher for the Yankees?
And what do you think of Montero as a catcher.
GB7,
Do the Yankees need to protect Laird from rule V?
For those who have seen Willie Mccovey played, Who was the better hitter in their prime between him, Stargell and Strawberry?
I grew up with the notion that beyond rooting for your team, you rooted for your league.
(I rooted for the Red Sawx in 86 against the Mets)
I have always felt that the team that beat my team should beat everyone else, to at least make my team look better. (If SF sweeps, for example, what does that say about the Yankees?)
I realize the Lee factor changes everything but if he was not an issue, aren’t we supposed to root for the AL team?
Cablevision is offering a $10 credit to anyone who purchases MLB’s WS package to watch the games.
So Elvis Andrus will go four-for-four with four runs scored again tonight ?
The NY Giants are New York’s forgotten baseball team.
Berri and LGY, got your predictions.
Last call for predictions for Trisha’s WS chart.
Giants in 7.
Giants in 6.
And thanks, Fran.
There has been a lot of fantasy land trade talks and such today. I honor of that ive thrown together my “fantasyland” opening day lineup and rotation.
Jeter SS
Granderson CF
Camp 2B
Arod 3B
Teixera 1B
Kemp LF
Swisher RF
Posada C/DH
Montero C/DH
Sabathia
Lee
Hughes
Pettite
Burnett
I think the rotation is realistic….don’t know so much about the lineup but hey thats why its fantasyland…..disclaimer: ill be perfectly fine if Gardner is in there instead.
though I do like the Yanks in 5 predictions, I’m going with the Rangers in 5.
blake and Tom,
Got your predictions.
Obviously camp equals cano ….stupid phone.
Go giants!
Tom, you’re welcome. I also picked the Giants in 6. I really don’t want to see Texas win the WS.
yanksfansince67 – I put your prediction on the chart.
Great minds?
Laird has some fine tuning to work on with his defense. Rodriguez, Nettles and Kelleher can help him fix that. Versatility is one of the reasons NYY has him playing the outfield in the AFL. He should be able to play a more than decent defense at all four corner spots. He has power to all fields and draws a few walks. The only offensive part that he has to work on a little better contact. He’ll probably have his 100 strikeouts over a full season, but, he’ll get it figured out. Laird will also be on the 40 man roster this winter. Romine isn’t as far advanced as Montero, offensively or defensively.
Romine has a lot of trouble with passed balls and catcher’s interference errors. Romine would be a better asset if he were more versatile, too. Some outfield and and corner infield positions would be perfect. He’s very athletic and has the hands and footspeed to play the corners, as well as catch. That’s the best way for NYY to corral the payroll…make their players versatile.
Cashmoney October 27th, 2010 at 6:50 pm
For those who have seen Willie Mccovey played, Who was the better hitter in their prime between him, Stargell and Strawberry?
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Orlando Cepeda was better than all of them had his knees held up. However, McCovey was better than stargell and strawberry, but, only because Strawberry wrecked his own career.
thank you, Fran
I don’t really care about the WS, but tonight should be a good pitching match up. I’ll probably tune in to see how this first round goes.
I think the Giants will win this. I don’t think the Rangers are any better hitters than the Phillies had, and that offense got shut down while the Giants scored enough to put them ahead. I also don’t think the Rangers pitching is better than what the Phillies had going. Other than Lee, and I would think Lee/Halladay are going to produce similar results, I just don’t think the Rangers are as good as the Yankee pitching staff made them look.
I just read back and saw the news about the Players Choice award going to Josh Hamilton and Cano not even getting a mention.
I don’t even now where to begin with that.
Don’t cry Yankee fans, it could be worse
http://tinyurl.com/36xbujx
Tom,
I hope we’re right
Yanksfan,
you’re welcome
***know where to begin***
That’s the best way for NYY to corral the payroll…make their players versatile.
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GB-7
I couldn’t agree more. Multi-position players make their careers more valuable. If players like Brandon Laird and Austin Romine have the tools and are willing to work at other positions it’s well worth their while to do so.
Doreen,
Would those be the same players that voted Derek and Alex the most overrated players in baseball last year or the year before?
I know that Mark Sanchez and Eli Manning (both QBs) of 1st place teams, were also just both voted most overrated players in the NFL.
IMO it’s a NY bias.
Cablevision shouldn’t be charging any of their customers full price for less than full access……………Fox can take some of the blame for sure, though, as they turned down Cablevision’s proposal
Fran the original-
Unfortunately, I think you’re right.
for those cablevision customers who can get fios, why do they still keep cable?
i hope AL team win.
Giants have been lucky so far, really lucky
Giants have outstanding starting pitching, deeper arms and the better pen…..My error was thinking the Bronx Bombers would be facing off on The Bay tonight……
raymagnetic October 27th, 2010 at 6:50 pm
Cablevision is offering a $10 credit to anyone who purchases MLB’s WS package to watch the games.
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You don’t need to do that. You can get all the channels, including FOX at ivi.com, and the first 30 days is free, after that it’s $4.95. It’s real time, full HD TV on your computer, and/or Smart Phone. Use it for 30 days and cancel, there is no contract.
108,
Having players that can play multiple positions not only make themselves more valuable to themselves, but, to the team. Being able to trade them for other pieces will help them tremendously when they become free agents. It would also help the team and not have to spend millions on a bench for one dimensional players like the Johnsons, Hinskes and Damons of the baseball world. It’s something that needs to be started in the early minor leagues, though.
Meanwhile Bengie Molina received a nice ovation from the Giants. Nice to see.
Derek and Alex may not be the most over-rated, but they’re right up there at the top of the most overpaid. Let’s see how Cashman does less with more this offseason.
Go Rangers! (want them to win it all)
Go Tim! (want the local boy to do well)
Go SEVEN GAMES! (want to squeeze out every drop of baseball left)
Two craptastic teams… exciting!!!
wow the Giants are pathetic… AL flameouts for 5 years ago all over the place
Go troll someplace else. Your cover is blown.
Giants wouldn’t make playoff in AL, gonna love NL