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Yankees announce details of Sabathia’s knee surgery

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Oct 27, 2010 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

The Yankees have announced the date and the expected recovery time for CC Sabathia’s knee surgery.

Sabathia has a small meniscus tear in his right knee. He will undergo arthroscopic surgery on Friday. It will be performed by Dr. Christopher Ahmad at New York-Presbyterian Hospital.

Sabathia will begin therapy immediately after the surgery, and within three to six weeks, he is expected to begin his regular routine in preparation for spring training.

Assuming no complications, the surgery should do very little to change Sabathia’s offseason routine. Most pitchers don’t begin throwing until after Christmas anyway.

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107 Responses to “Yankees announce details of Sabathia’s knee surgery”

  1. Erin October 27th, 2010 at 1:04 pm

    raymagnetic October 27th, 2010 at 1:01 pm
    Erin,

    I caught the tail end of the report on the radio so I don?t know if it?s official yet.

    ***************************
    Thanks ray :)

  2. pat October 27th, 2010 at 1:08 pm

    The ?Fear the Beard? shirts are another matter.

    Those scare young children. :sad:

  3. Robin October 27th, 2010 at 1:09 pm

    so when did the injury occur?

  4. GreenBeret7 October 27th, 2010 at 1:10 pm

    pat October 27th, 2010 at 12:52 pm
    jnorris427 Per Newman again, Heathcott did have his shoulder scoped, and the current estimate is that he will be ready by spring training.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    Heathcott is an interesting young player to watch. Not sure where he will be next season, but, from what I saw, he’d be better off opening the season back in Charleston. Like Banuelos, he’s being pushed pretty fast. Both are playing against players a year or two older than they are. he seemed to play hurt a lot this past season.

  5. Betsy October 27th, 2010 at 1:15 pm

    GF, Halladay didn’t refuse a trade to the Phillies because AJ was on the Yankees, so CC being on the Yankees does not appear to me to be a big deal in terms of where Lee wants to go.

  6. Asd October 27th, 2010 at 1:16 pm

    >Betsy October 27th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
    GF, Halladay didn’t refuse a trade to the Phillies because AJ was on the Yankees, so CC being on the Yankees does not appear to me to be a big deal in terms of where Lee wants to go.

    This assumes that Lee and Halladay are exactly the same people.

  7. raymagnetic October 27th, 2010 at 1:17 pm

    The ad about Mary and her bad knees is not helping Google :( :x

  8. Chad Jennings October 27th, 2010 at 1:21 pm

    Robin-

    I don’t think this is a situation where Sabathia suddenly tore something in his knee. It sounds like something he’s been dealing with for a while

  9. Betsy October 27th, 2010 at 1:23 pm

    ASD, I agree they are not – which is why you also can’t use the “CC didn’t want to pitch in NY, but he took the $$ anyway” analogy.

  10. Tom in N.J. October 27th, 2010 at 1:25 pm

    Halladay, unlike Lee, signed a contract w/ the team he was traded to.

  11. Asd October 27th, 2010 at 1:26 pm

    >Betsy October 27th, 2010 at 1:23 pm
    ASD, I agree they are not – which is why you also can’t use the “CC didn’t want to pitch in NY, but he took the $$ anyway” analogy.

    I’m not taking either side, I’ve always felt it was useless to speculate on why people do things, as motives rest deep in peoples minds, and are scarcely honestly revealed.

  12. Erin October 27th, 2010 at 1:29 pm

    BloggingBombers Sabathia not concerned about knee surgery http://bit.ly/cRsqRn

  13. SAS October 27th, 2010 at 1:29 pm

    Lee is going to go where he feels he is the best fit. I don’t think taxes will interfere because they come off in Federal Tax payment. No one would play in NY or CA if taxes were the only issue. He needs a good accountant, like Erica.

    Now if they (the Lees) feel like fish out of water here; that is something altogether different. However, to the best of my knowledge he would not be the only person from a small town, i.e. Andy Pettitte, Swisher and others who’s hometown I am not aware of.

  14. Betsy October 27th, 2010 at 1:30 pm

    Not the same thing, Tom. Halladay was on the market for awhile and it was known that he was going to have to agree to an extension first before a trade when down. No team would have traded for him if Doc were just going to insist on FA. I never said Lee wasn’t going to go FA – just that him signing with the Yankees is not a foregone conclusion.

  15. Tom in N.J. October 27th, 2010 at 1:31 pm

    from Erin’s link:

    “Sabathia underwent a similar procedure in September 2006, but was ready for Opening Day 2007.”

    http://www.nydailynews.com/blo.....z13a6wo9lN

  16. pat October 27th, 2010 at 1:32 pm

    Michelle Damon will make a phone call and get the Lee negotiations done. They’ve got a house that needs renting!

  17. Betsy October 27th, 2010 at 1:32 pm

    ASD, I agree with that. Yankee fans are going to take the tack that Lee just wants the $$ and to be with his friend; Rangers fans are going to assume that he’s not going to leave a place he’s grown to love or a team that could win the WS. No one really knows what he’s thinking at all.

  18. Erin October 27th, 2010 at 1:33 pm

    pat October 27th, 2010 at 1:32 pm
    Michelle Damon will make a phone call and get the Lee negotiations done. They?ve got a house that needs renting!

    *******************************

    :lol:

  19. blake October 27th, 2010 at 1:40 pm

    Cliff Lee announces that he will sign with NY under the condition that he can be Erica’s new PF.

  20. Tom in N.J. October 27th, 2010 at 1:41 pm

    Betsy, Exactly. Halladay’s situation was not the same as Lee’s. That was my point.

    And as to Lee “signing with the Yankees is not a foregone conclusion” well, you make it sound like it’s a forgone conclusion that he’s not. You’ve bought up everything from if “Lee is a good husband he won’t go where his wife doesn’t want to live” to the Roy Halladay situation last year….

    The fact of the matter is nobody knows how this is going to play out, so why drive yourself mad with finding reasons why Lee is or isn’t going sign here.

  21. Betsy October 27th, 2010 at 1:45 pm

    Tom, that’s true………..I guess with the season over I need to find something else to worry about. I’m sort of tired about worrying about Lee, so I’ll just concentrate on my upcoming trip to Boston – that will keep me occupied (and I don’t have to worry about anything there, lol)

  22. Tom in N.J. October 27th, 2010 at 1:47 pm

    Have fun in Boston, Betsy.

    Enjoy yourself. I was there over the summer.

    I’m a sucker for Colonial/Revolution era tours.

  23. ConcernedCitizen October 27th, 2010 at 1:49 pm

    “I don’t think this is a situation where Sabathia suddenly tore something in his knee. It sounds like something he’s been dealing with for a while”

    Hasn’t CC had knee issues for years?

  24. DocTodd October 27th, 2010 at 1:50 pm

    all Cashman has to do is throw big $ at Lee, and include an opt out option like he did for CC

  25. Asd October 27th, 2010 at 1:51 pm

    >ConcernedCitizen October 27th, 2010 at 1:49 pm

    Hasn’t CC had knee issues for years?

    You’re asking us if you’ve had knee issues for years? In third person?

  26. raymagnetic October 27th, 2010 at 1:52 pm

    Betsy,

    Why do you need to find something else to worry about?

  27. Asd October 27th, 2010 at 1:53 pm

    >raymagnetic October 27th, 2010 at 1:52 pm
    Betsy,

    Why do you need to find something else to worry about?

    Because she’s a Yankee fan? (duh…)

  28. SAS October 27th, 2010 at 1:53 pm

    You’re right Betsy. There is nothing any of us can do about it, but pray. We shall see what happens. However, it will not go away as a topic of conversation here until he signs. After all chatting about possibilities is what makes this blog fun.

  29. raymagnetic October 27th, 2010 at 1:57 pm

    Asd,

    I’m wondering why a person would feel the need to worry at all. I guess that’s what I dont get. There aren’t enough hours in the day to worry about all te things there are that are really worrisome. So why worry about a thing?

  30. PacoDooley October 27th, 2010 at 2:00 pm

    Maybe CC can finally decide it’s time to lose some of that extra poundage he’s been carrying. The fact that he is big may be part of his pitching ability, but there is a difference between big and fat. He could stand to lose 50 pounds and still be effective (or more effective) and perhaps avoid stress problems like knee damage and spinal disc compression.

  31. Asd October 27th, 2010 at 2:00 pm

    Because as long as I’ve been a Yankee fan, at least once a day, when I least expect it, some thought of worry pops into my head. I guess I have other worries, more self-involved worries as well, but have no reason to post them here, so you never see them, and therefore look non-existent.

  32. Asd October 27th, 2010 at 2:02 pm

    >Maybe CC can finally decide it’s time to lose some of that extra poundage he’s been carrying. The fact that he is big may be part of his pitching ability, but there is a difference between big and fat. He could stand to lose 50 pounds and still be effective (or more effective) and perhaps avoid stress problems like knee damage and spinal disc compression.

    While I agree that it isn’t a healthy thing for him to be at his weight, and it does excel health issues, I always figured weight and size factored heavily into pitching mechanics, meaning that any major weight change (say 50 pounds) can have an effect on the very core of how a pitcher pitches, something scary to a pitcher who pitches well.

  33. Rich in NJ October 27th, 2010 at 2:08 pm

    It’s better than there being no explanation for CC’s less than CC-like performance.

  34. NumberOnePositivePosterEver October 27th, 2010 at 2:13 pm

    Betsy, wow, you are going to beantown. That’s so cool, I wish I traveled more. My mom doesn’t let me leave the house unless it’s to go buy cans of pork and beans. I hear Boston has a nice a hall called Faneuil, can you take pictures? Ohh, I always wanted to go to Harvard Square too, and I hear there are really good restaurants on Boylston.

    Betsy lives the life! I don’t think us Yankee fans realize how blessed we are to have someone who travels to the south, north, east and west, but still has time to comment here and share her thoughts. Extremely intelligent thoughts too.

  35. Betsy October 27th, 2010 at 2:23 pm

    LOL some ridiculous caller to WFAN just whined about how awful a GM Cash is……….went on to say how great the Sox and Rays’ rotations are, then trashed our rotation.

    Now, I think the Sox’ rotation will be better because they have 2 top pitchers heading it and I think Beckett and Lackey are likely to improve. However, this guy made it sound like 1-5 are world beaters……….The Rays rotation? Price is a stud and it’s a good rotation, but their pitching really struggled late in the season. Wade Davis is very good and Hellickson probably will be, but still – he’ll probably struggle some as well. Sheilds did not have a good year.

  36. tampayank October 27th, 2010 at 2:25 pm

    “# SAS October 27th, 2010 at 1:29 pm

    Lee is going to go where he feels he is the best fit. I don’t think taxes will interfere because they come off in Federal Tax payment. No one would play in NY or CA if taxes were the only issue. He needs a good accountant, like Erica.

    Now if they (the Lees) feel like fish out of water here; that is something altogether different. However, to the best of my knowledge he would not be the only person from a small town, i.e. Andy Pettitte, Swisher and others who’s hometown I am not aware of.

    I think Swish is originally from West Virginia but now resides in the Hollywood Hills according to the YES Network version of ‘Cribs’. So he’s a Hollywood guy now ;) . More cameos in the offseason

  37. Betsy October 27th, 2010 at 2:25 pm

    CC is not fat – he’s big. He’s done just fine as is. Joba is fat – there’s someone to be concerned about.

  38. Yanksgal07 October 27th, 2010 at 2:30 pm

    Joba is not as big as everyone seems to think …I saw him in street clothes and he didn’t look that bad at all …maybe stripes just aren’t for him .. :)

    Go Yankees 2011 !!!

  39. Patrick October 27th, 2010 at 2:32 pm

    Joba and CC are both fat

  40. pat October 27th, 2010 at 2:32 pm

    Erin

    To fill your Yankee/People Mag. sweet tooth. The girls have gotten big.

    http://bauergriffinonline.com/.....ughter.php

  41. blake October 27th, 2010 at 2:34 pm

    Cc is just big boned.

  42. AldotheApache October 27th, 2010 at 2:35 pm

    GreenBeret7 October 27th, 2010 at 11:50 am
    Jesus….You can’t be any more obvious. I expect the next two posts between you two will, “Vineyard, I just passed gas.” “WCYF, excellent post. I completely agree

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    Excellent post. I completely agree.

    :lmao:

  43. Betsy October 27th, 2010 at 2:36 pm

    Blake, lol – that’s exactly what I was thinking, lol.

    CC is a great athlete and he’s in good condition; I have no problem with his weight. Carl posted a link to Joba and Phil from 2007 and it’s unbelievable how fat Joba has gotten. Back then, wow – he was lean. Now he’s just – the Michelin Man.

  44. Erin October 27th, 2010 at 2:36 pm

    Thanks for the link pat! Those girls have gotten big-it’s been a while since I’ve seen any pictures. They’re both so cute. :)

  45. Yanksgal07 October 27th, 2010 at 2:36 pm

    The angst by so many Yankee fans is remarkable….I can’t imagine how they handle real life problems. If Lee comes here it will be terrific …if not …nothing anyone can do about so why worry …be happy !!!! I can’t help but wonder what these people would do if they were Pirate fans…LOL.

    Go Yankees 2011 !!!

  46. Erin October 27th, 2010 at 2:38 pm

    Joelsherman1 story http://bit.ly/aXa6OP on #Yankees, Girardi moving very close to 3-yr deal between $9M-$10M make him 5th or 6th highest paid mgr in MLB

  47. AldotheApache October 27th, 2010 at 2:40 pm

    blake October 27th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
    Cc is just big boned.

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    Big boned … with a lot of ‘stuff’ in around those bones. But when he’s getting ready to deliver the ball to the plate, he looks just fine to me.

    And earlier this season when he drilled Vicente Padilla in his butt in retaliation for beaning one of our guys, Padilla clearly wanted no part of CC.

    I admit, before they signed CC, I was worried about whether he would last, given his shape. But as far as I’m concerned, he’s ALREADY proven himself to be a worthy signing.

    He can keep right on gobbling down those hero sandwiches and winning 20 games a season.

  48. AldotheApache October 27th, 2010 at 2:42 pm

    Betsy October 27th, 2010 at 2:36 pm
    Blake, lol – that’s exactly what I was thinking, lol.

    CC is a great athlete and he’s in good condition; I have no problem with his weight. Carl posted a link to Joba and Phil from 2007 and it’s unbelievable how fat Joba has gotten. Back then, wow – he was lean. Now he’s just – the Michelin Man.

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    Betsy, CC had no problem moving that weight around when he tagged out the guy at the plate on that wild pitch in the post season, did he?

  49. Erin October 27th, 2010 at 2:44 pm

    Yanksgal07 October 27th, 2010 at 2:36 pm
    The angst by so many Yankee fans is remarkable?.I can?t imagine how they handle real life problems. If Lee comes here it will be terrific ?if not ?nothing anyone can do about so why worry

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    Yanksgal-my thoughts exactly. :)

  50. tk October 27th, 2010 at 2:46 pm

    “Joelsherman1 story http://bit.ly/aXa6OP on #Yankees, Girardi moving very close to 3-yr deal between $9M-$10M make him 5th or 6th highest paid mgr in MLB”

    Now if the Jeter negotiation would just go that smoothly…

  51. West Coast Yankee Fan October 27th, 2010 at 2:46 pm

    IMO, It’s not logical to make the case that weighing more than 300 pounds is healthy or good on any level. Just because an athlete has gotten away with it so far in his twenties, does not mean that he will be able to do so as he gets older.

  52. West Coast Yankee Fan October 27th, 2010 at 2:47 pm

    Looks like the troll with many identities has returned.

  53. GreenBeret7 October 27th, 2010 at 2:50 pm

    Amazing how so many fans and the baseball media yammer ob about sabathia’s size and he still pumps out the quality innings and games, but, nobody ever says a thing about Jonathon Broxton and his 6’4″, 295 pound body.

  54. West Coast Yankee Fan October 27th, 2010 at 2:51 pm

    Cliff Lee:

    From FanNation. Cliff Lee watched, and he did so with a mix of emotions as the Giants defeated his former teammates in the NLCS.

    “I pulled for those guys individually. But I didn’t mind seeing them get beat, either. Just because they got rid of me. That is what it is.”

  55. GreenBeret7 October 27th, 2010 at 2:52 pm

    yammer ***on*** about Sabathia’s

  56. Bring in the Goose October 27th, 2010 at 2:55 pm

    When Cashman sat down with Cano and explained how production relates to earnings, he may have known then that he’d have to do the same with Joba.

    I hope he flys out to Nebraska and sits Chamberlain down for a 1:1 re: his weight and his goals.

    Joba needs a fire lit under him. He can still be a vital cog with this team.

  57. Yankee Trader October 27th, 2010 at 2:55 pm

    If CC is 290lbs[probably more] and 6’7″ he’s obese by his BMI. BMI calculator:

    http://www.nhlbisupport.com/bmi/bmicalc.htm

  58. West Coast Yankee Fan October 27th, 2010 at 2:56 pm

    GreenBeret7 October 27th, 2010 at 2:50 pm

    Amazing how so many fans and the baseball media yammer ob about sabathia’s size and he still pumps out the quality innings and games, but, nobody ever says a thing about Jonathon Broxton and his 6?4?, 295 pound body.

    *******************

    Actually they do. Just recently this appeared in the Los Angeles Times sports blog:

    “With the 6-4 Broxton’s inexplicable fade in the second half, doesn’t it at least have to be asked whether he’s just a little too big? Too heavy? Not exactly in top-notch shape?”

  59. Yankee Trader October 27th, 2010 at 2:58 pm

    Broxton might be considerd at a BMI 35.9 Morbidly Obese!!!!

  60. Bring in the Goose October 27th, 2010 at 2:58 pm

    Don’t expect many changes with the offense this off-season, especially if Lee can be had.

    My 2011 opening day lineup:

    Jeter SS
    Swisher RF
    Cano 2B
    Rodriguez 3B
    Teixeira 1B
    Posada C
    Montero DH
    Granderson CF
    Gardner LF

  61. Jerkface October 27th, 2010 at 2:59 pm

    Humans over 6’5 end up having knee problems just by dint of being large. Not worried about this.

  62. Yankee Trader October 27th, 2010 at 3:02 pm

    Agree if Lee is signed maybe the Yankees only need Willie Bloomquist, a FA to play multiple positions! :)

  63. Wave Your Hat October 27th, 2010 at 3:02 pm

    “Don’t expect many changes with the offense this off-season, especially if Lee can be had.”

    Actually, I half expect a blockbuster, whether the Yanks get Lee or not.

  64. Mell October 27th, 2010 at 3:02 pm

    “Girardi moving very close to 3-yr deal between $9M-$10M make him 5th or 6th highest paid mgr in MLB”

    5th or 6th highest? Guess that’s not necessarily out of line, but it surprised me. I’d have thought he was higher. Figured maybe Francona and Manuel would get more. Maybe Scoscia too. With Cox and Torre out of the picture, I wonder who else would be ahead of him.

  65. upstate kate October 27th, 2010 at 3:04 pm

    Bring in the Goose
    you don’t want to give Montero a shot at catcher? or is that for the next day?
    I like Robbie batting 3rd.

  66. Tom in N.J. October 27th, 2010 at 3:04 pm

    I wouldn’t be shocked if Cashman swung a ” blockbuster” this offseason either.

    Who that would be, I do not know.

  67. GreenBeret7 October 27th, 2010 at 3:05 pm

    Yankee Trader October 27th, 2010 at 2:58 pm
    Broxton might be considerd at a BMI 35.9 Morbidly Obese!!!!

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    As big as he is, have you ever noticed just how big Broxton’s thighs and calves are? He’s pretty normal for a 6’4″ guy above the waist, but, he’s bigger than sabathia from the hips on down. I’ve seen his parents and a few members of his family and they are all like that. Just huge people. They live up in a small town outside of Augusta, Georgia, just a little ways from some friends of mine..

  68. tampayank October 27th, 2010 at 3:06 pm

    “# Yanksgal07 October 27th, 2010 at 2:36 pm

    The angst by so many Yankee fans is remarkable….I can’t imagine how they handle real life problems. If Lee comes here it will be terrific …if not …nothing anyone can do about so why worry …be happy !!!! I can’t help but wonder what these people would do if they were Pirate fans…LOL.

    Go Yankees 2011 !!!

    ha ha I agree. Sometimes it sounds like it’s a birthright that every coveted free agent has to pick the Yankees. If he doesn’t come next year’s rotation might be more in question that 2010 but there are some bright spots like the continuing development of Hughes

  69. Bring in the Goose October 27th, 2010 at 3:07 pm

    upstate kate October 27th, 2010 at 3:04 pm
    Bring in the Goose
    you don?t want to give Montero a shot at catcher? or is that for the next day?
    I like Robbie batting 3rd.
    —————————————————————-

    I figure Jorge would get the Opening Day nod.

    Montero, if we’re lucky, stays healthy and impresses enough in ST to stick with the team for 60-80 games at catcher.

  70. pat October 27th, 2010 at 3:07 pm

    Height and weight only paints part of the picture.

    Not all 6 feet and 180 lbs are equal.

  71. GreenBeret7 October 27th, 2010 at 3:08 pm

    Kate, if Montero goes north with the Yanks next spring, I’d prefer that they had him batting 7th or 8th in the line-up. A lot less pressure on him and still surrounded by good hitters. He runs the bases pretty well, going first to third.

  72. tk October 27th, 2010 at 3:10 pm

    WYH,

    Are you guessing the blockbuster might be for a good, young OF? I have no idea who would be available, but I can see Cashman aggressively trying to upgrade the offensive. Like you said, whether they get Lee or not. If they get Lee it gives them some more flexibility with the young pitching. If they don’t, they will have more of a “need”. Should be a very interesting offseason.

  73. Bring in the Goose October 27th, 2010 at 3:12 pm

    While I would wholeheartedly support a “blockbuster”, I dont think folks truly understand how limited we are with payroll in 2011, with unknown dollars still owed to Jeter, Rivera, possibly Pettitte, arb raises, and possibly Lee.

    The fact is re: our offense, the only true upgrades would be with our corner outfielders, and those positions tend to eat significant salary. Swisher wasnt too bad a bargain at $9mm, and Gardner proved for the first 130 games or so that he’s also a bargain.

    What blockbusters would you like to see???

  74. GreenBeret7 October 27th, 2010 at 3:12 pm

    The Yanks, at this time have a couple of other wide bodies on the 40 man roster in Romulo Sanchez and Jonathon Albaladejo.

  75. Yankee Trader October 27th, 2010 at 3:13 pm

    Mell-

    Couldn’t find a condensed list of 2010 manager salaries, but you’ll find this article interesting on player top salaries:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L.....ll_players

  76. Mell October 27th, 2010 at 3:15 pm

    “Actually, I half expect a blockbuster, whether the Yanks get Lee or not”

    If they don’t, you’d think they’d try to get in on Greinke. Or maybe Verlander, who’s due to make big $$ starting in 2012

    If they do, maybe an outfielder, though if Granderson is more the guy he was late in the year than the one he was thru the first 120 games, it may not be especially necessary.

  77. GreenBeret7 October 27th, 2010 at 3:15 pm

    Not sure where this blockbuster offensive player would fit in. There’s no place for him on the infield or in the infield.

  78. Bring in the Goose October 27th, 2010 at 3:16 pm

    Or, GB, in the infield.

    ;)

  79. Yankee Trader October 27th, 2010 at 3:16 pm

    pat- you’re right. Just knowing only height and weight to calculate the BMI doesn’t give you the entire picture. If it’s all muscle mass than you’re not really in the category of overweight or obese.

  80. GreenBeret7 October 27th, 2010 at 3:18 pm

    Detroit has no reason to trade Verlander. Ilich has more money than God.

  81. Betsy October 27th, 2010 at 3:18 pm

    Ok, lock up Joe and get cracking on the PC………

  82. Mell October 27th, 2010 at 3:18 pm

    or under the infield.

    Some argument for upgrading the outfield offense, but again, if Granderson is closer to the man he was the last 40 games, it shouldn’t be necessary.

  83. Bring in the Goose October 27th, 2010 at 3:19 pm

    Josh Johnson is a blockbuster. Not likely, though.

    Joakim Soria is a blockbuster.

    Zack Greinke is a blockbuster. Not likely for other reasons.

    But offensively? I just don’t see it.

    Maybe if they did something stupid and signed Konerko to DH, when the team already has that slot filled though 2016+.

  84. GreenBeret7 October 27th, 2010 at 3:19 pm

    ***in the outfield***

  85. Mell October 27th, 2010 at 3:21 pm

    “Detroit has no reason to trade Verlander.”

    Yeah, he does. Just thinking about the practicality of having $41M invested in 2 players for the Tigers. I don’t know.

  86. blake October 27th, 2010 at 3:21 pm

    If they could get Kemp, Upton, or Rasmus for a package not including Montero then ok….otherwise I think better health is the best change for the offense.

  87. GreenBeret7 October 27th, 2010 at 3:23 pm

    For those wanting to track the Yankee kids playing in the AFL today. Game starts in about 25 minutes. Romine catching, Laird playing in left Pirela playing shortstop (poorly) and Craig Heyer starting.

    http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday.....n_perwin_1

  88. Bring in the Goose October 27th, 2010 at 3:23 pm

    The only active offensive players the Yanks would get any trade value from would be Cano, Granderson, Gardner, and Swisher, in that order of value, probably.

    Granderson and Swisher are productive and reasonable rates.

    Gardner would be a tougher sell, possibly. I could see him leading off in the NL, though.

    Cano’s not going anywhere.

    So to add a bat, you need to give one up.

    Who would you give up?

  89. Wave Your Hat October 27th, 2010 at 3:23 pm

    The reasons I think a blockbuster could happen are a combination of 3 tradeable outfielders and a surplus of good young pitching in the high minors.

    If the Yanks don’t get Lee, they will need to swing a deal for a top starter, which will cost either Montero or one of the outfielders, plus AAA pitching.

    If they do get Lee, then the opportunities for the AAA pitchers will close down, and I could easily see the Yanks exploring a deal where they trade one of the outfielders and AAA pitching for a really good young outfielder.

    Blockbusters don’t happen very often, so I guess the odds are against one happening, but the pieces are there.

  90. Mell October 27th, 2010 at 3:23 pm

    Green Beret 7:

    By “Yeah he does”, I meant Illitch has a ton of money, rather than a reason to trade Verlander.

  91. Yankee Trader October 27th, 2010 at 3:24 pm

    Based on Cot’s the Yankees have around 144 million of guarenteed contracts. Add arbitration deals, resigning Jeter, Rivera, possibly Pettitte, a bullpen arm, bench needs, maybe another catcher, and now Cliff Lee at close to CC money, you could be looking at a payroll above 225 million, with a luxury tax of 40% above the new 2011 threshold of 178 million. I believe payroll for 2010, unofficial, was around 206 million, although Cot’s lists it at just above 213 million which includes signing bonuses.

  92. Betsy October 27th, 2010 at 3:25 pm

    I’m not exactly thrilled about re-signing Joe, but I’m tired of spending my offseason being angry or annoyed or frustrated about something; I guess I’ll just have to accept that Hal and Cash love this guy.

  93. Erin October 27th, 2010 at 3:26 pm

    Ledger_Yankees Yanks pick up Brackman’s option, decline options on Wood, Berkman and Nick Johnson.

  94. Betsy October 27th, 2010 at 3:26 pm

    Granderson isn’t going anywhere, but I can see Swish and/or Gardner going.

  95. Wave Your Hat October 27th, 2010 at 3:27 pm

    I don’t think Gardner would be a tough sell, he is attractively priced and many teams may think he has upside.

    Both Granderson and Swisher are worth what they are paid, if not more, so they could be moved as well.

    For instance, maybe the Cardinals would talk about Cody Rasmus if the Yanks put one of those outfielders on the table plus one or two of their AAA pitchers.

  96. Bring in the Goose October 27th, 2010 at 3:27 pm

    YT –

    May be a loophole re: luxury tax payments that can instead be made against the new ballpark.

    Either way, your graph above puts my point in better context.

    Lee at CC money, with resigning our guys, puts us $20mm higher than last season.

  97. Yankee Trader October 27th, 2010 at 3:27 pm

    Detroit will not trade Verlander. In fact rumor has it that thy’re one of the teams interested in Crawford. Remember, they can dump Magglio Ordonez.

  98. Betsy October 27th, 2010 at 3:29 pm

    aww…….I knew that was happening with Wood. I still hope the Yankees will make him a good offer to stay. I know he wants to close, but does he want to close for a bad/mediocre team?

  99. Cashmoney October 27th, 2010 at 3:30 pm

    Nova+Gardner+one of 3bs for Grady Sizemore

  100. upstate kate October 27th, 2010 at 3:31 pm

    as Blake says, if the team is healthy there isn’t that much that needs to be done.
    Definitely a starter and another catcher…hopefully Montero has a good ST and we get to see him.
    I like Girardi and I think dealing w/ all these formerly undisclosed injuries had to affect his managing.

  101. Bring in the Goose October 27th, 2010 at 3:31 pm

    Wow, for STL to trade a young CF with the following…would take quite the return.

    May be too much of a rebuilding with this guy, though.

    2011 Contract Status: Pre-Arb Eligible, 1 yr/$418k (10) (details) [*]

  102. Wave Your Hat October 27th, 2010 at 3:31 pm

    “May be a loophole re: luxury tax payments that can instead be made against the new ballpark.”

    No, against revenue sharing, not the luxury tax.

  103. Mell October 27th, 2010 at 3:33 pm

    “May be a loophole re: luxury tax payments that can instead be made against the new ballpark.”

    Pretty certain the Stadium debt goes against their slice of the revenue sharing pie, rather than the luxury tax.

  104. Erin October 27th, 2010 at 3:35 pm

    Ledger_Yankees Nothing surprising about options. Wood would cost $11 million had they picked up the option.

    Ledger_Yankees Declining option means those guys are free agents. Yanks could try to keep them but it would be on a new contract.

    Ledger_Yankees Other thing about Wood: He’d make more money as a closer elsewhere than as a set-up man in New York.

  105. Erin October 27th, 2010 at 3:35 pm

    New Post: Yankees decline options on Berkman, Wood, Johnson

    :arrow:

  106. GreenBeret7 October 27th, 2010 at 3:38 pm

    Erin October 27th, 2010 at 3:26 pm
    Ledger_Yankees Yanks pick up Brackman’s option, decline options on Wood, Berkman and Nick Johnson.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    bERtIN, none of that really comes as a surprise, but, hopefully they’ll be able to make a deal with Wood and put Brackman in the bullpen to replace Gaudin or Mitre. Brackman would be ideal and having him spend his first season in the pen is the best way to start. Same with bringing up another youngster like Betances or Phelps, though Phelps has compiled a lot of innings over the last year. all depends on Lee and Pettitte.

  107. berri October 27th, 2010 at 6:14 pm

    Fran the Original:

    Please put me down on the world series chart for
    the Giants in 6 games.

    Please give my condolences to Trisha.

    Thanks.

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