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Worked and didn’t work for Joe Girardi

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Oct 28, 2010 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

The Yankees are basically a press release away from retaining Joe Girardi as manager. He’s coming off a season in which he was constantly second-guessed by the fan base and the media, especially down the stretch. Like any manager, though, he had a year of good decisions and bad.

I’m not looking for in-game decisions here. Some of those work, some don’t, and it’s impossible to say whether a different choice would have yielded different results. In the course of a season, the big picture choices play out positively or negatively, and those are generally easy to define.

One overriding theme of Girardi’s choices: For better or worse, he trusts and believes in his players.

ALCS Yankees Rangers BaseballThree decisions that worked
Taking the fifth: Robinson Cano and Phil Hughes
The Yankees most significant questions heading into spring training involved the number 5: Who would bat fifth and who would be the fifth starter? Girardi went with Cano and Hughes, and both responded in a big way. Cano had an MVP-type season, and Hughes won 18 games as a 24-year-old all-star.

Trusting Tex: In the No. 3 spot, Mark Teixeira rebounded
Teixeira is a notorious slow starter, but it would have been hard to predict him hitting .211 with a .363 slugging percentage on June 6. There were plenty of cries to Girardi to finally give up and move him down in the order, but Girardi kept him in the three hole and Teixeira responded with a .309/.406/.632 slash line from June 8 to September 1, at which point injuries took their toll.

Resting Rodriguez: Days off kept Alex Rodriguez fresh
In his first two weeks off the disabled list, Rodriguez was kept out of the starting lineup three times. The result was a fresh third baseman who had his best month of the season, and never showed any signs of recurring problems. True, he might have stayed healthy and productive without those days off, but Girardi played it safe and got the result he wanted.

Also give him credit for: Recognizing Javier Vazquez couldn’t start… Sticking with Marcus Thames through a brutal spring training… Pushing the right buttons with minor league call-ups in the middle of the season.

ALCS Rangers Yankees BaseballThree decisions that didn’t work
Hoping for better:
Keeping Derek Jeter in the leadoff spot
Give Girardi credit for his 2009 decision to move Jeter into the leadoff spot, but keeping him there this season was a mistake. Jeter was good in the beginning and at the end, but in between, Brett Gardner’s .383 on-base percentage was a better option at the top of the lineup.

Joba rules: Or maybe he doesn’t
I’m not sure what the alternative would have been, but sticking with Joba Chamberlain in the eighth inning didn’t work through the first half of the season. To Chamberlain’s credit, he turned things around at the end of July, but  only after allowing at least one run in six of 10 outings from June 27 to July 25. He was prone to complete implosions and only got his season going after Kerry Wood came onboard and took some of that late-inning pressure away.

Bad platoon: Austin Kearns kept getting at-bats
In his first three weeks with the Yankees, Kearns hit very well, but he had only a .164 average with no extra-base hits from August 24 through the end of the season. He was dealing with a few injuries, which might explain the struggles, but it doesn’t explain why he continued to get starts ahead of Brett Gardner against left-handed pitchers. He didn’t get a single at-bat in the postseason, so why play him so much down the stretch?

Also worth questioning: Using Chad Gaudin ahead of playoff pitcher Sergio Mitre down the stretch… Treating A.J. Burnett considerably differently than Vazquez, despite similar seasons… Keeping Francisco Cervelli partnered with Burnett, despite poor results.

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133 Responses to “Worked and didn’t work for Joe Girardi”

  1. Chip October 28th, 2010 at 3:19 pm

    Cashmoney October 28th, 2010 at 3:16 pm
    Chip, the big difference is in Benoit’s control and the fact he did in the heat of pennant race in AL east.There are always concerns and risks involved in dealing with short relievers. I am just in the opinion that Benoit at 2-10 (which he prolly will get more) is a good risk. Will the brass see it the way I do, prolly not. But that’s why we are here on a forum talking about baseball in the middle of afternoon on a Thursday
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    Fair enough – but if my choices are Joakin Benoit or Scott Downs I’m taking Downs in a heartbeat.

    1. Far more consistent career
    2. No injury history
    3. Left handed

  2. Asd October 28th, 2010 at 3:21 pm

    Honest report, I’d say.

  3. Jerkface October 28th, 2010 at 3:22 pm

    Jeter and Arod had 17 games combined at DH. Bill Hall hit 18, 8, 15, 14, and 35 HRs the past 5 years. He’d be good on the bench.

  4. Eric in FL October 28th, 2010 at 3:25 pm

    That should be .383 OBP for Brett Gardner.

  5. dont-forget-where-you-came-from-cheese mac October 28th, 2010 at 3:26 pm

    The problem with this theory of not questioning “in game decisions” due to the variability of their success is that it completely ignores the fact that those “in game decisions” reflect a certain philosophy that may be inherently stupid.

  6. Mell October 28th, 2010 at 3:26 pm

    “Treating A.J. Burnett considerably differently than Vazquez, despite similar seasons”

    Same seasons, but different contractual status. He’s got Burnett for the next three seasons. It’s somewhat important that he doesn’t lose him for good. That didn’t matter so much with Vazquez who was almost certainly moving on after 2010 regardless of how he pitched.

  7. Chip October 28th, 2010 at 3:26 pm

    As far as bench options go, I have no problem with any of these players:

    Felipe Lopez
    Eric Hinske
    Bill Hall
    Casey Blake
    Macier Izturis

  8. Erin October 28th, 2010 at 3:27 pm

    Joba rules: Or maybe he doesn?t

    *************************

    :lol:

  9. RSM October 28th, 2010 at 3:28 pm

    Jerkface,
    You are wrong. If a player signs a major league contract, he is not under team control for 6 years like a player that signs a minor league contract. Once the contract is up, he is a free agent, just like any other player who signs a major league contract.
    Five days after the world series, Miranda’s contract expires and he can file for free agency. He can choose to stay with the Yankees on a minor league deal, but why would he.
    Same goes for Brackman.

  10. GreenBeret7 October 28th, 2010 at 3:29 pm

    Hall’s not getting 400-500 at bats in a season with NYYs, either. He hits about .230 and strikes out too much and doesn’t walk at all. He has no idea about defense at any position. Strictly a desperation move. No thanks.

  11. NJ Pete October 28th, 2010 at 3:30 pm

    Where does Cano bat next season? I’m inclined to swap Cano and Tex. Jeter has to drop but how far?

  12. Jerkface October 28th, 2010 at 3:31 pm

    You are wrong. If a player signs a major league contract, he is not under team control for 6 years like a player that signs a minor league contract. Once the contract is up, he is a free agent, just like any other player who signs a major league contract.

    100% not true.

  13. Cashman needs to go October 28th, 2010 at 3:32 pm

    How can anybody think that Braden is a good idea. There can be no meetings on the mound because he doesn’t allow anybody on his mound. Beware of wanting pitchers from Oakland. Most pitchers look good in that park. he’s one of them

    *********************

    Although I would usually agree with A’s pitchers looking good in the coliseum – he actually had a better ERA away from oakland (3.43 vs 3.56) and his whip was almost similar (1.18 away vs 1.14 home) and BAA was slightly higher away (.256 vs .243) – he also had great numbers vs the yankees, baltimore and toronto and decent numbers vs tampa (including the perfect game) and had the worst #’s vs. boston (those numbers were skewed because his first game back off a 1 month DL stint was against the redsox where he gave up 10 hits and 4 runs – 1 earned – in 4.2 innings)

    he also had 5 complete games….all in all not bad numbers for someone you are looking to be your #4 or 5 in the rotation – much better than burnett and he costs only 400K

    as for his mound issues – i guess arod will have to ask him to meet near 3rd base in order to go over assignments…

  14. Mell October 28th, 2010 at 3:32 pm

    Chip:

    As far as Downs vs. Benoit goes, you also need to consider that Downs is a Type A, while Benoit is a Type B.

    Your choice is really between Downs and Benoit + a 2nd round pick (this assumes the Yankees go big on one other free agent)

  15. Erin October 28th, 2010 at 3:33 pm

    NJ Pete October 28th, 2010 at 3:30 pm
    Where does Cano bat next season? I?m inclined to swap Cano and Tex. Jeter has to drop but how far?

    ******************************
    I actually loved seeing Cano bat in the 3-hole, but at the same time I won’t complain if it’s the usual Tex, Alex, Robbie order come spring.

  16. blake October 28th, 2010 at 3:33 pm

    Cano should hit 3rd and teixera 5th…..Jeter will start out either leading off or hitting 2nd and will be given the opportunity to stay there if he performs.

  17. Jerkface October 28th, 2010 at 3:36 pm

    The 6 year limit for service time trumps everything. If a player is non-tendered in their first year of arbitration and signed to a 1 year MAJOR LEAGUE contract by a team, that teams has control of the player for the subsequent 3 years of his 6 year service time, regardless of the fact that they only signed him to a 1 year deal. They must offer the player arbitration, sign him to another deal, or non-tender him each year until the player hits free agency.

    Its very simple. Lets not spread any untrue things out here.

  18. Cashman needs to go October 28th, 2010 at 3:36 pm

    Trusting Tex: In the No. 3 spot, Mark Teixeira rebounded
    Teixeira is a notorious slow starter, but it would have been hard to predict him hitting .211 with a .363 slugging percentage on June 6. There were plenty of cries to Girardi to finally give up and move him down in the order, but Girardi kept him in the three hole and Teixeira responded with a .309/.406/.632 slash line from June 8 to September 1, at which point injuries took their toll

    ************

    Or you could see it another way – if he moved tex down to 5 or 6 in late april or early may and put cano there the yankees would probably have won a few more games taking advantage of cano’s sizzling start and giving him more ab’s..

  19. Cashmoney October 28th, 2010 at 3:37 pm

    You aren’t going to get Bill Hall, who has no business owning a glove and hasn’t hit in 6 years. They don’t need a strikeout artist sitting on the bench. Hall is going to a team that will give him a chance to play.
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    GB7 I don’t understand you logic here. So IYO, he can’t field (which is somewhat true on the infield and less so in the of) and he hasn’t hit for 6 six years, but by some miracle he is going to a team that will give him a chance to play?

    In reality, Bill hall is a poor average hitter who has decent patience and good P/PA. He is a guy who OPS’d 772 in 2010 while playing various of and if positions due to many injuries that had occurred on the RS. Aside from his inability to play SS , Hall is your prototypical super U player at this point of his career. So why not on the Yankees where he can effectively usurp the roles of Kearns and spell Arod and regular OFers when needed and possibly accrue no less 200 PA next year?

  20. GreenBeret7 October 28th, 2010 at 3:37 pm

    Blake and Hall will go where they can play more than once a week and they won’t be cheap. Yeah….sign me up for Felipe Lopez’ .230 average and that dazzling glove work. His only real position is 2nd base. I suppose they could bench Cano and start Lopez, though. Izturis is under contract for 2 more years at about $3.3 mil a year.

  21. LGY October 28th, 2010 at 3:38 pm

    Aside from the super obvious factor that some seem to be ignoring that the Yankees simply do not have the moolah to pay for a Downs, Wood, Benoit, etc.

    To the less super, but still obvious factors that have been stated like FA relievers are generally poor investments, very risky, overpaid, volatile, create inflexible bullpens, etc.

    The Yankees are down spending money on FA setup men and middle relievers for 2 other major reasons.

    1. It is so hard to crack the Yankees starting rotation that some and maybe even many very capable and talented arms are going to be shifted to the bullpen. They are going to be able to fill their bullpen with high talent arms this way and they get the benefit of it being very cheap and very flexible to take this route. This is the same way they have built the bullpen under Girardi for 3 years now and with way more talent in the farm system than in years past it will be even easier now.

    2. And most important, if the Yankees sign Cliff Lee the bullpen will be as inconsequential as a major league bullpen can get. The Yankees will 2 of the elite innings eaters in baseball at the top of their rotation. Bring back Andy Pettitte and the bullpen is just not going to be pitching that many innings. Each turn through the rotation there simply will not be a lot of innings for the bullpen to have to cover. Factor in a high powered offense and there will be an even smaller amount of high leverage innings available.

    In general FA set up men are poor investments for a myriad of reasons. On the way this team looks like it will be set up for the next few years, they are an incredibly poor investment.

    Cliff Lee is a far better improvement to the bullpen than any of these overpriced bullpen arms will be and that is how the Yankees will strengthen that area of the team this winter.

  22. Doreen October 28th, 2010 at 3:38 pm

    Chad -

    I like your post. After getting an arm’s distance away from the end of the season, I’d say it’s a fair assessment of some of the overall picture of things.

    It helps when these scenarios are presented clinically, rather than with emotional overtones, too. Much appreciated.

  23. West Coast Yankee Fan October 28th, 2010 at 3:39 pm

    Never happen, but I’d do it this way, switching Granderson and Swisher based on L-R starter. No back to back lefties or righties.

    Gardner – CF
    Swisher – RF
    Cano – 2B
    A-Rod – 3B
    Tex – 1B
    Montero – C
    Granderson – CF
    Jeter – SS
    Posada – DH

  24. GreenBeret7 October 28th, 2010 at 3:40 pm

    Hall is a better fit in a place like KC, San Diego or Oakland where they can trade him off at mid season.

  25. West Coast Yankee Fan October 28th, 2010 at 3:40 pm

    Typo – Gardner in LF

  26. LGY October 28th, 2010 at 3:42 pm

    Jerkface is 100% and unequivocally correct about this service time thing. It is no even debatable. What the Face is saying is how the rules work.

    The Yankees already burned a year of service time on Brackman by having him spend 1 year on the 60 day deal.

    However, once Brackman reaches the major leagues he is under team control for 5 full years. Usually it would be 6, but like I just said the Yankees already used a year.

    It does not matter one bit that he is on a major league contract. The service rules are the same.

  27. Tom in N.J. October 28th, 2010 at 3:43 pm

    Look at Marte and Mosley.

    They were both nontendered by their original teams. The Yankees signed them to one year deals. And they are both under the Yankees control (arbitration).

  28. GreenBeret7 October 28th, 2010 at 3:44 pm

    Watching the replays from last night turns my stomach. It has to be the worst played WS game in 50 years between the pitching, defense and base running.

  29. Wave Your Hat October 28th, 2010 at 3:45 pm

    “Watching the replays from last night turns my stomach. It has to be the worst played WS game in 50 years between the pitching, defense and base running.”

    But it was very entertaining. And, it did feature some pretty nice defensive play on the left side of the infield.

  30. DaSaint007 October 28th, 2010 at 3:46 pm

    Look at Marte and Mosley.

    They were both nontendered by their original teams. The Yankees signed them to one year deals. And they are both under the Yankees control (arbitration).

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    Marte was signed to a 3 year contract, with a team option on the 4th year.

  31. Jerkface October 28th, 2010 at 3:46 pm

    I’ve decided that the Yankees will likely tender Miranda a contract, because he is not arbitration eligible (just out of options), and then trade him.

  32. Jerkface October 28th, 2010 at 3:46 pm

    He meant Mitre.

  33. DaSaint007 October 28th, 2010 at 3:48 pm

    Cliff Lee is a far better improvement to the bullpen than any of these overpriced bullpen arms will be and that is how the Yankees will strengthen that area of the team this winter
    ——————————-
    Great comment. With CC, Lee, and Pettitte, the average game gets longer. 7 innings or more most likely. Yankees can have a shorter, better, pen then.

    As long as they get Lee. If he implodes in his next start, I’ll be curious to see if there’s still the same fervor to get him.

  34. GreenBeret7 October 28th, 2010 at 3:48 pm

    Sorry, but, I saw nothing entertaining about it. There were more mistakes in that game than in the Little League WS. The biggest mistake was putting Guerrero in right field.

  35. Tom in N.J. October 28th, 2010 at 3:48 pm

    Thank you Jerkface,

    Mitre.

  36. NJ Pete October 28th, 2010 at 3:49 pm

    Jeter is not batting 8th. 2nd maybe but i’d try Granderson lead off if the k. long majic continues.

  37. GreenBeret7 October 28th, 2010 at 3:50 pm

    The only real value that Miranda provides is that he hits left handed and he fills a spot in Scranton. Other than that, Jorge Vazquez is a better option.

  38. Cashmoney October 28th, 2010 at 3:51 pm

    Blake and Hall will go where they can play more than once a week and they won’t be cheap. Yeah….sign me up for Felipe Lopez’ .230 average and that dazzling glove work. His only real position is 2nd base. I suppose they could bench Cano and start Lopez, though
    ———————
    Yet felipe lopez was 280 and 310 hitter who OPS’d min 720 the two years before. Despite his poor year, he still OPS’d 650 which is much higher than Pena’s. We are talking about a bench player who can adequately man all 4 infield position. He is versatile and cheap and viable option to consider. Do you want a all star back up in every position?

  39. DaSaint007 October 28th, 2010 at 3:54 pm

    Wow, we’re really discussing bench players already? They must be a hot commodity.

    Ok. I’ll suggest Betemit.

  40. ac1 October 28th, 2010 at 3:56 pm

    Jeter will never be put that far down the lineup.

    He will likely hit second, and 6th at the farthest.

    He will also likely have a better season next season.

  41. RayVT October 28th, 2010 at 3:57 pm

    I suspect that Granderson will lead off next year and Jeter will bat 2nd and Cano 3rd.

    Lineup something like this:

    CF Curtis Granderson
    SS Derek Jeter
    2B Robinson Cano
    3B Alex Rodriguez
    1B Mark Teixeira
    RF Nick Swisher
    DH Marcus Thames/Jesus Montero
    C Jorge Posada
    LF Brett Gardner

    Posada may swap up one spot, but probably not.

  42. Jerkface October 28th, 2010 at 3:59 pm

    Miranda has better discipline than Vazquez, and can no longer fill a spot in scranton.

  43. Wave Your Hat October 28th, 2010 at 3:59 pm

    GB7-

    If you didn’t think it was entertaining to watch Lincecum escort Michael Young back to third or Nolan Ryan scowl the whole night, then there’s no help for you.

  44. Dylan October 28th, 2010 at 3:59 pm

    I was one of the few people hated the Vazquez trade when it happened. I don’t like giving players a second chance in NY. If you can’t play here, you can’t play here. A couple years off isn’t going to change that. Also, I have seen a couple people recommending that the Yankees sign Pavano. That would be a HUGE mistake. I wouldn’t take him if he offered to pitch here for free.

  45. jacksquat October 28th, 2010 at 3:59 pm

    Trusting Tex: In the No. 3 spot, Mark Teixeira rebounded
    Teixeira is a notorious slow starter, but it would have been hard to predict him hitting .211 with a .363 slugging percentage on June 6. There were plenty of cries to Girardi to finally give up and move him down in the order, but Girardi kept him in the three hole and Teixeira responded with a .309/.406/.632 slash line from June 8 to September 1, at which point injuries took their toll.

    This is a did NOT work.

    Of course Teixeira was likely to hit *eventually*. Meanwhile, he was big hole hitting third. All that time he could have been hitting lower until he *started hitting*, then you move him back up. Normal slumps are one thing, Teixeira has demonstrated that he is capable of slumps for two months. Hopefully Girardi learned something, but probably not.

  46. Doreen October 28th, 2010 at 4:02 pm

    ac1

    I don”t see Jeter at 6. I always think of the guy who hits 6th as having at least some power. 7th maybe. Or 2nd. There’s really not a lot of places to put him. I doubt he’s going to hit 8th or 9th, and I do think he’ll have a season somewhere between 2009 and 2010 next year.

    Jeter will do whatever work he needs to.

  47. DaSaint007 October 28th, 2010 at 4:02 pm

    Start of Season:

    LF Gardner
    SS Jeter
    1B Teixeira
    3B Arod
    2B Cano
    CF Granderson
    C Posada
    RF Swisher
    DH Thames

    If Jete doesn’t do well, he’ll be switched with Granderson.

  48. RayVT October 28th, 2010 at 4:04 pm

    It isn’t a matter of Tex not deserving to bat 3rd, but of Robbie deserving it more. Cano is the Yankee’s best pure hitter and he has speed. Tex is still great, injuries or not, but his lack of speed makes him more of an ideal 4th or 5th hitter instead of 3rd.

  49. GreenBeret7 October 28th, 2010 at 4:05 pm

    Cashmoney October 28th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
    Blake and Hall will go where they can play more than once a week and they won’t be cheap. Yeah….sign me up for Felipe Lopez’ .230 average and that dazzling glove work. His only real position is 2nd base. I suppose they could bench Cano and start Lopez, though
    ———————
    Yet felipe lopez was 280 and 310 hitter who OPS’d min 720 the two years before. Despite his poor year, he still OPS’d 650 which is much higher than Pena’s. We are talking about a bench player who can adequately man all 4 infield position. He is versatile and cheap and viable option to consider. Do you want a all star back up in every position?

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    He’s a .265 career hitter because of 2 seasons. A bench player needs to do one of two things…hit or field. He does neither well enough. He doesn’t run the bases well any more, either. The Yanks would be better off with Jose Lopez. He at least has youth on his side.

  50. Dylan October 28th, 2010 at 4:05 pm

    # RayVT October 28th, 2010 at 3:57 pm

    I suspect that Granderson will lead off next year and Jeter will bat 2nd and Cano 3rd.

    Lineup something like this:

    CF Curtis Granderson
    SS Derek Jeter
    2B Robinson Cano
    3B Alex Rodriguez
    1B Mark Teixeira
    RF Nick Swisher
    DH Marcus Thames/Jesus Montero
    C Jorge Posada
    LF Brett Gardner

    Posada may swap up one spot, but probably not.
    ____________________________________________________________________

    Mostly agree with that lineup, but I would switch Gardner and Granderson, because Gardner has a much higher OBP. I would also give Montero more starts at C then Posada. Posada is awful behind the plate, and I don’t think he should catch more then 40-50 games. Cano needs to bat 3rd. Its crazy that our best hitter was batting 5th all year. I would also bat Jeter 2nd, in order to break up the lefties.

  51. jacksquat October 28th, 2010 at 4:05 pm

    If Jeter is going to hit similar to how he did last year (he needs to hit .290+ to have an obp high enough to be at the top of the lineup, unless he suddenly walks more) I’d have the lineup like this:

    vs. rhp

    1. gardner
    2. granderson

    8/9. jeter

    vs. lhp

    1. jeter
    2. swisher

    8/9 gardner

    I’d also move Cano to 3 and Texiera to 5, against all pitching.

  52. Rich in NJ October 28th, 2010 at 4:06 pm

    Next season, unless the roster changes, Gardner should leadoff and Cano should bat 3rd.

  53. Erin October 28th, 2010 at 4:06 pm

    Seeing all of these potential lineups makes me want to play GTLU. ;)

  54. GreenBeret7 October 28th, 2010 at 4:06 pm

    Wave Your Hat October 28th, 2010 at 3:59 pm
    GB7-

    If you didn’t think it was entertaining to watch Lincecum escort Michael Young back to third or Nolan Ryan scowl the whole night, then there’s no help for you.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    If watching a farce in the WS is entertaining for you, have at it.

  55. NJ Pete October 28th, 2010 at 4:06 pm

    RayVT – that’s aboutthe way I see it.

  56. RayVT October 28th, 2010 at 4:07 pm

    I suspect Granderson would be more likely as a leadoff hitter than Gardner. Grandy is a better hitter and a better baserunner. Gardner needs more time still before I’d deem him a leadoff guy. I’d rather have Granderson bat one more time than Gardner in other words.

  57. GreenBeret7 October 28th, 2010 at 4:08 pm

    I have no reason to believe that you’ll see Jeter have a repeat of 2010 next season. He’ll make his needed changes and be closer to 2009 than 2010.

  58. Tom in N.J. October 28th, 2010 at 4:10 pm

    “Next season, unless the roster changes, Gardner should leadoff and Cano should bat 3rd.”

    Rich, I think so too.

    I’d like to see Alex bat 5th, Teix 4th, and Swisher 2nd.

    I may be crazy, but I’d want the 4 best OBP guys batting in front of Alex.

  59. Wave Your Hat October 28th, 2010 at 4:10 pm

    GB7-

    I give up trying to help you. Wallow in misery then, if it makes you feel good!

  60. Joe from Long Island October 28th, 2010 at 4:11 pm

    LGY makes a great point, that the best way to improve your bullpen is to not have to use it as much. Middle relievers are such because as a group they’re not good enough to either start or close.

    If they Yanks can send out a quartet of CC, Lee, Andy, and Phil, heck, that covers a lot of innings. It would even make AJ going every 5th a lot easier on the gastric lining.

  61. DaSaint007 October 28th, 2010 at 4:11 pm

    Greetings GB.

    I agree that Jeter will not have a repeat of 2010. He’s too prideful an individual, and if he does, it’ll be his last year, which it very well may be anyway. 3000 hits would be enough for me, especially if it ended with a rebound season.

  62. GreenBeret7 October 28th, 2010 at 4:12 pm

    Washington hasn’t learned. Guerrero is back in right field against Cain. Murphy, a left handed bat with power, speed and average rides the pines.

  63. Wave Your Hat October 28th, 2010 at 4:13 pm

    Jeter is a total unknown for 2011. It was disconcerting to see RH pitchers get him out away consistently.

  64. RayVT October 28th, 2010 at 4:14 pm

    Before everyone jumps on the bash Jeter’s hitting bandwagon, just remember he most likely was injured most of the year & played thru it. He was terrific at the begining of the year as he and Cano carried this team along with Swish.

    Granderson is an ideal leadoff guy provided he can hit LHP. He has shown he can do that now after the adjustments he made with Dr Long! The 3 ideal things you want in a leadoff guy, speed, OBP & power he has. Yes, power is an ideal thing for a leadoff guy as it sets the stage. Think Rickey Henderson or Bobby Bonds. Gardner while progressing and overachieving is a much better #9 hitter. As I said before I’d rather have Granderson bat more than Gardner.

  65. West Coast Yankee Fan October 28th, 2010 at 4:14 pm

    Unless Jeter drastically improves his numbers he’s a 7,8 hitter to me. That’s making a decision based on now not yesterday. Maybe he will edge back closer to his 2009 year. At 36, I personally doubt it from what I saw – hope I’m wrong.

  66. GreenBeret7 October 28th, 2010 at 4:16 pm

    Afternoon, Simon. hope all is well in SaintLand with Mrs. Templer and the little Templers.

    Yeah, I don’t think Jeter will go through another 2010 season. He’ll retire first, regardless of what he “leaves on the table”. They’ve been writing his demise for 5 years.

  67. Wave Your Hat October 28th, 2010 at 4:16 pm

    “Washington hasn’t learned. Guerrero is back in right field against Cain. Murphy, a left handed bat with power, speed and average rides the pines.”

    I wonder if Washington feels starting Murphy in game 2 after starting Guerrero in game 1 would show up Guerrero.

  68. Tom in N.J. October 28th, 2010 at 4:17 pm

    O’Neill, Bernie, Mattingly all batted lower in the lineup as they aged. There’s no shame in it.

  69. RayVT October 28th, 2010 at 4:17 pm

    Wave Your Hat October 28th, 2010 at 4:13 pm

    It appeared to me that Jeter had some issues with his knee and his left wrist. He didn’t have the same bat control on the inside out pitch because of this IMO. In 2011 I think we will see a much better Jeter because he will be healthy.

  70. Cashmoney October 28th, 2010 at 4:20 pm

    He’s a .265 career hitter because of 2 seasons. A bench player needs to do one of two things…hit or field. He does neither well enough. He doesn’t run the bases well any more, either. The Yanks would be better off with Jose Lopez. He at least has youth on his side.
    —————–
    Again, simply not true. Starting in 2005, when he started playing regularly his average as of the following.
    291
    274
    245
    283
    310
    233 this year
    That is 4 respectable to good seasons out of 6. he isn’t the perfect player but he is versatile and cheap bench player that can be had. defensively he is more than adequate everywhere except at SS at this point. He will be 30 next year not 45 which is younger than 3/4 of the Yankee infield. He is a good fit IMO.

  71. RayVT October 28th, 2010 at 4:20 pm

    Wave Your Hat October 28th, 2010 at 4:16 pm

    You are probably right Wave! I thought it was dumb to play Guerrero in Game 1 with your stud ace pitching. It sent a message of desperation IMO. I would have played the better glove in RF and had Guerrero available to ph if necessary.

  72. Wave Your Hat October 28th, 2010 at 4:23 pm

    RayVT-

    I have to agree with you.

    I’d like to see a Thames-Guerrero fielding contest, though.

  73. RayVT October 28th, 2010 at 4:24 pm

    Tom in N.J. October 28th, 2010 at 4:17 pm

    No one that I know of is talking shame here. Jeter is the consumate team player and he consistently takes a lot of pitches and hits behind the runner which is ideal for a #2 hitter. He also doesn’t normally strike out much which is normally a good thing too.

  74. RayVT October 28th, 2010 at 4:25 pm

    Wave Your Hat October 28th, 2010 at 4:23 pm

    LOL! That would be a piece of art! Stoneworks!

  75. GreenBeret7 October 28th, 2010 at 4:28 pm

    Looks like Washington woke up. He now has Murphy in left and Cruz in right.

  76. RayVT October 28th, 2010 at 4:31 pm

    Cashmoney October 28th, 2010 at 4:20 pm

    If I could choose someone from last year to add on last years squad he would have been a good pick in hindsight. Now he will demand a starting slot and it isn’t available with the Yanks. IMO, he isn’t really that good, but that doesn’t matter because he won’t be available. Now if you can find the 2011 version of him or better that will be available cheap then maybe so. Utility guys are almost as bad as middle relievers in consistency or lack thereof. I prefer to take a guy like Nunez as a safer and long term guy and see if a mid season acquisition is required later.

  77. blake October 28th, 2010 at 4:33 pm

    I like Rays lineup. Hitting cano third isn’t about denoting teixera…its about putting your best hitter where he should go and putting an RBI guy in an RBI spot…

  78. CCBiggs October 28th, 2010 at 4:33 pm

    I think Girardi’s handling of Vazquez was awful. Vazquez struggled, but he was having a better year than Burnett. And yet Girardi stuck with Burnett and sent Vazquez to the pen. Obviously that was a decision based on Burnett’s contract, not a baseball decision. It made Girardi look week, having to play the Burnett because the GM stupidly gave him a big contract. Meanwhile, Javy was giving up less than a hit per inning and Girardi kept taking him out after 4 2/3 innings.

  79. blake October 28th, 2010 at 4:35 pm

    Vlad not playing tonight….he just can’t play the field anymore.

  80. Yankee Trader October 28th, 2010 at 4:35 pm

    “Washington hasn’t learned. Guerrero is back in right field against Cain. Murphy, a left handed bat with power, speed and average rides the pines.”
    —————————————————————–

    Washington was probably thinking that the Giants weren’t going to hit many fly balls, let alone righties hitting flyballs to right off Cliff Lee!! I’m betting my 2 cents that Matt Cain comes thru tonight and shuts down the Rangers.

  81. GreenBeret7 October 28th, 2010 at 4:38 pm

    Banuelos is having a rough start today. 3 innings, 7 hits 3 runs, 1 walk, 4 strikeouts.

    Not really concerned because he’s pitching against players 2-4 years older and he has so few innings in this year. I thought that they might be pushing him too fast at age 19.

    Laird is 0-1 and was HBP in his first at bat

  82. JM October 28th, 2010 at 4:39 pm

    Not sure if this has been posted before, if so, my apologies as work and life have kept me away from the blog for most of the past week, but it says the Yankees exercised their option Brackman….

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....index.html

  83. Yankee Trader October 28th, 2010 at 4:40 pm

    I think Teixeira needs to work on his approach from the left side this offseason. Too many moving parts and often foiled by the shift, trying to loft the balls and swinging for the fences.

  84. GreenBeret7 October 28th, 2010 at 4:44 pm

    Teixeira’s left handed swing is much like Giambi’s was, and for you old geezers, Mickey Mantle’s. Back leg collapses and hits under or over the ball. Rare for him to hit it flush. Really nice and level right handed swing.

  85. rb from LI October 28th, 2010 at 4:47 pm

    # blake October 28th, 2010 at 4:33 pm

    I like Rays lineup. Hitting cano third isn’t about denoting teixera…its about putting your best hitter where he should go and putting an RBI guy in an RBI spot…

    ———–

    It’s an intriguing debate. Last year the concern was: who is going to protect Alex? Few people wanted Robbie hitting 5th.

    Assuming the lineup stays pretty much the same my concern is still “who is going to protect Alex?”, because Robbie probably should be hitting 3rd. It’s easy to assume Tex won’t start hitting at the start of the season because of his track record. If he’s in the 5 hole, Rodriguez won’t get anything to hit until Tex shows up.

  86. Doreen October 28th, 2010 at 4:49 pm

    I know it was frustrating to say the least to see Tex in the 3 spot day in and day out in spite of his struggles, and wondering when, why or how Girardi would deal with it.

    One thing I don’t really see mentioned here is perhaps a reason (other than people simply believing Girardi is stubborn). Who would you most likely have wanted moved to the #3 spot? I’m thinking many of you would have wanted Cano there (at least I’m sure that’s what most would say now). But I think it’s not without merit to think this way: Cano was only recently moved up to the #5 spot. In prior years when he was moved up, he didn’t respond well. He was doing very, very well in the #5 spot at the start of the season. I can understand why Girardi may not want to mess with him at that point. After all, Cano in the #5 was still an “experiment” of sorts.

    It’s not just about moving Tex. It’s about the moves after that. How you might be making your entire lineup out of whack. And, remember, even though Tex was struggling, the Yankees themselves were not.

  87. Asd October 28th, 2010 at 4:51 pm

    >blake October 28th, 2010 at 4:33 pm
    I like Rays lineup.

    So I read this and was like “You Traitor!” and then realized you did not mean “The Rays” but rather “The Lineup that Ray posted.” Whoops.

  88. DaSaint007 October 28th, 2010 at 4:53 pm

    Tex will be fine after recovering from his injuries.
    ARod will be a year stronger.
    Jeter will be better if for no other reason than his pride. Remember his resurgence in the field in 2009 after his dismal year at shortstop the prior year.
    Cano hopefully will maintain his stature.
    Granderson will have an offseason to work on his new hitting techniques.
    Gardner hopefully will learn how to bunt, and learn some tips on baserunning.

  89. blake October 28th, 2010 at 4:53 pm

    Gb, very true regarding mantle….obviously I’ve only seen him on old film but that’s what it looks like.

  90. DaSaint007 October 28th, 2010 at 4:56 pm

    The real issues are Posada @ C, who the ‘backup’ is, and who the DH is.

  91. Cashman needs to go October 28th, 2010 at 4:56 pm

    DaSaint007 October 28th, 2010 at 4:02 pm
    Start of Season:

    LF Gardner
    SS Jeter
    1B Teixeira
    3B Arod
    2B Cano
    CF Granderson
    C Posada
    RF Swisher
    DH Thames

    If Jete doesn’t do well, he’ll be switched with Granderson.

    ********************
    If jeter doesn’t do well in the 2 spot why would you want to move him to the 6th spot which is one of the spots where you are looking to drive in runs (and not killing rallys) – if he doesn’t do well in the 2 spot then the most obvious choice is down to 7 (or more reasonably 8 or 9)

  92. blake October 28th, 2010 at 4:59 pm

    Lol…yea I meant “RayVT’s”….and I don’t like” the rays” lineup much at all.

  93. RayVT October 28th, 2010 at 5:00 pm

    GreenBeret7 October 28th, 2010 at 4:44 pm

    I resemble that remark! LOL!

  94. Cashmoney October 28th, 2010 at 5:00 pm

    LF Gardner
    SS Jeter
    1B Teixeira
    3B Arod
    2B Cano
    CF Granderson
    RF Swisher
    DH Branyan/Thames
    C Posada

  95. DaSaint007 October 28th, 2010 at 5:00 pm

    If jeter doesn’t do well in the 2 spot why would you want to move him to the 6th spot which is one of the spots where you are looking to drive in runs (and not killing rallys) – if he doesn’t do well in the 2 spot then the most obvious choice is down to 7 (or more reasonably 8 or 9)
    ———————————-

    …you stay there and believe that Jeter will hit 8th or 9th.

  96. RayVT October 28th, 2010 at 5:02 pm

    Asd October 28th, 2010 at 4:51 pm

    LOL! I thought the same thing for a moment! LOL!

  97. blake October 28th, 2010 at 5:04 pm

    Doreen,

    I don’t think they should have moved tex during the season this year….that would have caused more harm than good IMO…but I think if you start Cano off there in ST and just keep it that way then its a non issue. Its not a huge deal but it’s what I would do.

  98. RayVT October 28th, 2010 at 5:04 pm

    Doreen October 28th, 2010 at 4:49 pm

    So true Doreen! Looking back is easy! At the time I agreed with Joe G in keeping Tex at 3rd in the lineup. But in 2011, I expect Cano to bat 3rd & Tex 5th.

  99. tampayank October 28th, 2010 at 5:07 pm

    “Hoping for better: Keeping Derek Jeter in the leadoff spot
    Give Girardi credit for his 2009 decision to move Jeter into the leadoff spot, but keeping him there this season was a mistake. Jeter was good in the beginning and at the end, but in between, Brett Gardner’s .383 on-base percentage was a better option at the top of the lineup.”

    Amen. Jeter bat 9th in 2011

  100. GreenBeret7 October 28th, 2010 at 5:07 pm

    RayVT October 28th, 2010 at 5:00 pm
    GreenBeret7 October 28th, 2010 at 4:44 pm

    I resemble that remark! LOL!

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    Obviously, I wasn’t referring to you and me. We were barely old enough to see Cano’s first games. I was referring more to Maine, MTU and Randy.

  101. RayVT October 28th, 2010 at 5:08 pm

    DaSaint007 October 28th, 2010 at 4:53 pm

    I concur on all those points!

  102. GreenBeret7 October 28th, 2010 at 5:10 pm

    Absolutely no reason to think that Jeter will hit anywhere but one of the first 2 spots. Three guys that will spend a large amount of time reworking their swings will be Jeter, Teixeira and Rodriguez.

  103. Billsince47 October 28th, 2010 at 5:10 pm

    Gardner should lead off – no doubt about it. He manufactures runs.

    BUT, someone needs to teach him how to bunt – it would add 20 points to his BA. I realize that he takes a lot of pitches so that he can get on base more frequently, but he takes too many (in my opinion). Consequently he is always hitting from a defensive position – that takes 20 points off his BA.

  104. Cashman needs to go October 28th, 2010 at 5:10 pm

    DaSaint007 October 28th, 2010 at 5:00 pm
    If jeter doesn’t do well in the 2 spot why would you want to move him to the 6th spot which is one of the spots where you are looking to drive in runs (and not killing rallys) – if he doesn’t do well in the 2 spot then the most obvious choice is down to 7 (or more reasonably 8 or 9)
    ———————————-

    …you stay there and believe that Jeter will hit 8th or 9th.

    ********************

    and thats the whole argument of jeter’s new contract will be an albatross if he doesn’t regain his 2009 hitting abilities….isn’t it sad that you can’t pay him what he’s actually worth (5 or 6 million per year) and you can’t bat him where he will cause the least damage (8 or 9th) because he’s derek jeter…..lets just hope he can turn things around…although i ain’t expecting any miracles from a 38 year old …

  105. RayVT October 28th, 2010 at 5:13 pm

    GreenBeret7 October 28th, 2010 at 5:07 pm

    LOL! I remember Mantle well!! Awesome swing! I have never seen anyone as talented as him in all facets of the game. Majestic! Awe inspiringly great.

    He could run like a deer, hit for average, hit for power & could field as good or better than anyone including IMO the Say Hey Kid!

  106. RayVT October 28th, 2010 at 5:15 pm

    Billsince47 October 28th, 2010 at 5:10 pm

    I still vote for Granderson over Gardner.

  107. Wave Your Hat October 28th, 2010 at 5:15 pm

    The more I think about it, the more I think Derek’s contract will be basically 2 years/$30MM, with a mutual third year option or something like that.

  108. GreenBeret7 October 28th, 2010 at 5:22 pm

    RayVT October 28th, 2010 at 5:13 pm
    GreenBeret7 October 28th, 2010 at 5:07 pm

    LOL! I remember Mantle well!! Awesome swing! I have never seen anyone as talented as him in all facets of the game. Majestic! Awe inspiringly great.

    He could run like a deer, hit for average, hit for power & could field as good or better than anyone including IMO the Say Hey Kid!

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    Both Ty Cobband ted Williams said that mantle was the most physically gifted player they ever saw and could have been a superstar in any era. Cobb said that he could hit .400 if he’d just cut back on his swing and Williams said the same thing and that he would have hit more homers. They tried to talk to Mantle about hitting and Mantle respectfully listened, tried it, but, said that he just couldn’t understand that part of hitting. All he could do was see it and hit it.

  109. GreenBeret7 October 28th, 2010 at 5:35 pm

    Agreat historical film clip that involves one of our posters. The man on the far right is actually Randy I. sort of the Forrest Gump of Lohud.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....playnext=1

  110. Doreen October 28th, 2010 at 5:36 pm

    I could see Cano, Tex and ARod as 3, 4 and 5. Or Cano, ARod, Tex. Whichever. The second one, I guess?

    Swisher 6th?

    At least right now?

    So many questions until we know who is actually going to be a part of this team.

    Also, I would hope that on the days Posada doesn’t catch that the lineup doesn’t flip too much.

    Not that easy to construct a lineup, is it? ;)

    Grandy
    Jeter
    Cano
    ARod
    Tex
    Swisher
    Posada
    DH
    Gardner

    or DH
    Posada
    Gardner?

    or DH
    Swisher
    Posada
    Gardner?

    or DH
    Posada
    Swisher
    Gardner?

    (I’ve never done this before – can you tell????? :ol: )

  111. Betsy October 28th, 2010 at 5:37 pm

    Chad, for the most part I agree. I wasn’t sure about Robby, but the kid took Alex’s words to heart and had a huge, MVP-type season. I don’t think Joe was solely responsible for the decision to make Phil the 5th starter, but still it happened on his watch, so……….

  112. Doreen October 28th, 2010 at 5:37 pm

    And I’ll never do it again!!!!!!

    ;)

  113. Jason Voorhees October 28th, 2010 at 5:38 pm

    I saw someone on here complaining that “Washington hasn’t learned anything” because he’s keeping Vlad in for game 2.

    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....8;c_id=mlb

    Looks like Ronald did a line and got all his focus back.

  114. RayVT October 28th, 2010 at 5:39 pm

    GreenBeret7 October 28th, 2010 at 5:22 pm

    I completely agree! Before all the knee injuries, Mantle’s speed from home to 1st was amazing. He could bunt and easily beat it out. And he hit the ball so hard it literally put fear in the pitcher and infielders. He also played the game hard as well. The closest athelete to him today or in recent memory was probably Bo Jackson but Mantle was a switch hitter. Mantle was fluid in motion.

  115. Asd October 28th, 2010 at 5:39 pm

    1. Gardy
    2. Swish
    3. Tex
    4. Cano
    5. ARod
    6. Posada
    7. Jeter
    8. DH
    9. Grandy

  116. Betsy October 28th, 2010 at 5:39 pm

    Assuming that some young and talented arms are going to be capable relievers is a mistake. Are we really going to trust all of them to do the job? I have concerns about Joba and Robertson also……….really, the only guy in the pen I completely trust is Mo.

  117. RayVT October 28th, 2010 at 5:43 pm

    Doreen October 28th, 2010 at 5:36 pm

    Yeah I agree Doreen. If Montero is the real deal hitting he might actually move up a spot ahead of Posada in the lineup and maybe the same for Thames if he comes back & as a RH DH against a LH Pitcher.

  118. Betsy October 28th, 2010 at 5:43 pm

    Tex is way too streaky; in a big spot, I’d rather Cano or Alex be up there. If Alex is healthy, he’ll have a big year, but who knows if he’s going to be healthy again? Either way, I want those 2 having more ABs than Tex.

  119. RayVT October 28th, 2010 at 5:44 pm

    If the Yanks were to sign Werth where would he hit?

  120. LGY October 28th, 2010 at 5:44 pm

    Mo is the only reliever in all of baseball you can completely trust.

  121. GreenBeret7 October 28th, 2010 at 5:44 pm

    RayVT October 28th, 2010 at 5:39 pm
    GreenBeret7 October 28th, 2010 at 5:22 pm

    I completely agree! Before all the knee injuries, Mantle’s speed from home to 1st was amazing. He could bunt and easily beat it out. And he hit the ball so hard it literally put fear in the pitcher and infielders. He also played the game hard as well. The closest athelete to him today or in recent memory was probably Bo Jackson but Mantle was a switch hitter. Mantle was fluid in motion

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    I remember Early Wynn saying that the only two batters that he really feared when hitting batters through the box was Mantle first and Ellie Howard. He said that he never threw at Mantle because he never embarras sed a pitcher and couldn’t get out of the way and Ellie Howard because if you made him mad, he’d undress you on the mound.

  122. RayVT October 28th, 2010 at 5:45 pm

    Betsy October 28th, 2010 at 5:43 pm

    I agree Betsy! Plus Tex is slow on the bases compared to both Cano & ARod.

  123. Doreen October 28th, 2010 at 5:46 pm

    RayVT -

    He could. Start him off slow and low and see what happens and gradually move him up.

    Asd’s lineup with Jeter batting 7th doesn’t look all that bad, either. A little strange, but not that bad. :)

    What I hope to see in spring training is Joe Girardi trying out some different combinations, maybe. I don’t think the lineup necessarily start out looking exactly like the last lineup of the season. If it does, I hope it’s because everyone was out of the gate running on all cylinders! :)

  124. GreenBeret7 October 28th, 2010 at 5:48 pm

    The best place to bat Montero is in the 7th or 8th spot in the order. Plenty of runners on base in front of him and little pressure. He’s faster than some people think. he goes 1st to 3rd pretty well.

  125. RayVT October 28th, 2010 at 5:49 pm

    GreenBeret7 October 28th, 2010 at 5:44 pm

    Wynn was a good pitcher! If he hit Ellie he would get his block knocked off twice. Once from Ellie & 2nd from the Yanks’ pitcher!

    If he hit Mantle, the whole team would have been after him including Ellie & the Yanks’ pitcher! LOL! Of course back then pitchers batted in AL.

  126. Asd October 28th, 2010 at 5:50 pm

    Yay! Not completely immediately shot down! Also, as Yankee fans with Mo we often forget that relievers are relievers because they’re not good enough to be starters or closers. They’re supposed to be questionable.

  127. RayVT October 28th, 2010 at 5:57 pm

    Asd October 28th, 2010 at 5:50 pm

    It wouldn’t be my choice on a lot of levels, but who knows! We all have opinions and the good part of that is that they don’t matter. LOL!

    I think batting Granderson 9th is a waste of talent & hitting Jeter after Posada would slow him down.

    Jeter is an ideal #2 hitter in that he takes pitches and predominately hits the ball to the right side. He is also a good bunter.

  128. GreenBeret7 October 28th, 2010 at 6:01 pm

    Ray, there was an interview with one of the Yankees years ago and they were talking about how mean Wynn was. The guy, and I believe it might have been Moose Skowron, said that Wynnwould hit anybody but Mantle. Then he went on to talk about the time that John Buzhart hit Mantle and when Buzhart came to the bench, Wynn went up to him and told him if he ever threw at Mantle’s legs again, he’s break his neck. Wynn knew that most hitters can get their head out of the way, but, Mantle couldn’t get his legs out of the way. Wynn, like most other players knew that Mantle playing meant more money for the players because he drew crowds and no player was more respected than Mantle. Al Kaline was asked who his idol was when he was young and Kaline said “Mantle. And he still is.” Kaline was 3 years younger than Mantle.

  129. Asd October 28th, 2010 at 6:01 pm

    Grandy hasn’t proven himself to me yet, until he does, I’ll use him for his speed for the 1-4 hitters. If he gets on base, and now infielders have to worry about him and Gardy getting on while bunting, mistakes become prevalent.

  130. mick October 28th, 2010 at 6:01 pm

    Jeter takes pitches? Not the current version. I have never seen a hitter more impatient than him and he rarely succeeds. This agresssive approach he has taken does not suit him or anyone. It almost looks like he doesn’t care up there, flailing away at every pitch. When he wants to , he can go 3-2 and foul em off but it is rare. This is where they missed Damon. He set the tone.

  131. Asd October 28th, 2010 at 6:03 pm

    New Thread like whoa, y’all.

  132. mick October 28th, 2010 at 6:03 pm

    Jeter is an ideal #2 hitter in that he takes pitches and predominately hits the ball to the right side. He is also a good bunter.
    ================
    He has also been a DP waiting to happen.

  133. RayVT October 28th, 2010 at 6:50 pm

    On May 7th Jeter was hit by Beckett in the back with the bases loaded and that I believe started his hitting decline. (He went 6-39 in his next eight games.) On May 15th, Derek Jeter flexing his right wrist after diving for a Pat Burrell single in the fourth inning, but Girardi said Jeter was fine. (He went 4-18 in his next four games.)

    So over that stretch he went 10 for 57 or .175 BA over 12 games. If you take those games out Jeter hit .279.

    June 18th Derek Jeter was a late scratch from the New York Yankees’ lineup because of a bruised right heel. I actually think he got hurt in the Astros game on the 12th after hitting 2 HRs he fouled a pich off his knee I believe. (He went 2 for 21 after that until he sat out the game with the bruised heel too where he couldn’t hardly walk.)

    Jeter is often punished for being a gamer and playing thru pain. I guess when the alternative is Pena you might have too.

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