The Boss is on the ballot
Do you think George Steinbrenner should be in the Hall of Fame? If you do, you might get your wish as soon as next summer.
A special “Expansion Era” ballot for the Hall includes the Boss, and if 75 % of the 16-person veterans committee votes for Steinbrenner he’ll be posthumously inducted into Cooperstown. The committee will meet at the Baseball Winter Meetings and results will be announced on Dec. 6.
The other 11 names on the ballot along with Steinbrenner are: Vida Blue, Dave Concepcion, Steve Garvey, Ron Guidry, Tommy John, Al Oliver, Ted Simmons, Rusty Staub, Billy Martin, Pat Gillick and Marvin Miller.
If you want to read the rest of the release from the Hall – which includes info on who is on the committee as well as bios for each of the candidates – it’s after the jump.
* That’s an old AP shot of The Boss, Joe Torre and Rudy Giuliani celebrating after the 1996 World Series. How young do they look? It freaks me out sometimes how long ago 1996 really is now. Doesn’t it still seem like just a few years ago?
Eight former major league players, three executives and one former manager comprise the 12-name Expansion Era ballot for the Committee to Consider Managers, Umpires, Executives and Long-Retired Players for Hall of Fame election, to be reviewed and voted upon at the 2010 Baseball Winter Meetings by a 16-member electorate. The results of the Expansion Era vote will be announced on December 6 at 10 a.m. ET from the Winter Meetings in Orlando, Fla.
Every candidate receiving votes on 75 percent of the 16 ballots cast will earn election to the National Baseball Hall of Fame and will be honored during Hall of Fame Weekend 2011, July 22-25 in Cooperstown, New York.
The 12 individuals who will be considered by the Expansion Era Committee in December for Hall of Fame Induction in 2011: Former players Vida Blue, Dave Concepcion, Steve Garvey, Ron Guidry, Tommy John, Al Oliver, Ted Simmons and Rusty Staub; former manager Billy Martin; and executives Pat Gillick, Marvin Miller and George Steinbrenner. Martin and Steinbrenner are deceased; all other candidates are living.
The 16-member electorate charged with the review of the Expansion Era ballot features: Hall of Fame members Johnny Bench, Whitey Herzog, Eddie Murray, Jim Palmer, Tony Perez, Frank Robinson, Ryne Sandberg and Ozzie Smith; major league executives Bill Giles (Phillies), David Glass (Royals), Andy MacPhail (Orioles) and Jerry Reinsdorf (White Sox); and veteran media members Bob Elliott (Toronto Sun), Tim Kurkjian (ESPN), Ross Newhan (retired, Los Angeles Times) and Tom Verducci (Sports Illustrated).
The Expansion Era ballot was devised by the Baseball Writers’ Association of America (BBWAA) appointed Historical Overview Committee, comprised of 11 veteran members: Dave Van Dyck (Chicago Tribune); Bob Elliott (Toronto Sun); Rick Hummel (St. Louis Post-Dispatch); Steve Hirdt (Elias Sports Bureau); Moss Klein (formerly Newark Star-Ledger); Bill Madden (New York Daily News); Ken Nigro, (formerly Baltimore Sun); Jack O’Connell (BBWAA secretary/treasurer); Nick Peters (formerly Sacramento Bee); Tracy Ringolsby (FSN Rocky Mountain); and Mark Whicker (Orange County Register).
The Expansion Era covers candidates among managers, umpires, executives and long-retired players whose most significant career impact was realized during the 1973-present time frame. Eligible candidates include: Players who played in at least 10 major league seasons, who are not on Major League Baseball’s ineligible list, and have been retired for 21 or more seasons (those whose last major league season was no later than 1989); Managers and Umpires with 10 or more years in baseball and retired for at least five years, with any candidates who are 65 years or older first-eligible six months from the date of the election following retirement; and Executives who have been retired for at least five years, with any active executives 65 or older eligible for consideration.
The Expansion Era Committee is the first of a three-year cycle of consideration for Managers, Umpires, Executives and Long-Retired Players by Era, as opposed to the previous consideration by classification, with changes approved and announced by the Hall of Fame’s Board of Directors at the conclusion of Hall of Fame Weekend 2010.
The changes maintain the high standards for earning election to the National Baseball Hall of Fame, with focus on three eras: Expansion (1973-present); Golden (1947-1972) and Pre-Integration (1871-1946), as opposed to the previous four Committees on Baseball Veterans, which considered the four categories of candidates. Three separate electorates will now consider by era a single composite ballot of managers, umpires, executives and long-retired players on an annual basis, with Golden Era Committee candidates to be considered at the 2011 Winter Meetings for Induction in 2012 and the Pre-Integration Era Committee candidates to be considered at the 2012 Winter Meetings for Induction in 2013. The Expansion Era Committee will next meet at the 2013 Winter Meetings for Induction in 2014.
“The procedures to consider the candidacies of managers, umpires, executives and long-retired players have continually evolved since the first Hall of Fame election in 1936,” said Jane Forbes Clark, chairman of the board for the National Baseball Hall of Fame and Museum. “Our continual challenge is to provide a structure to ensure that all candidates who are worthy of consideration have a fair system of evaluation. In identifying candidates by era, as opposed to by category, the Board feels this change will allow for an equal review of all eligible candidates, while maintaining the high standards of earning election.”
The 12 candidates for Expansion Era consideration:
Vida Blue spent 17 seasons pitching in the majors with the Oakland A’s, Kansas City Royals and San Francisco Giants, compiling a 209-161 record, with a 3.27 ERA in 502 major league games/473 starts. Blue, the 1971 AL MVP and Cy Young Award winner, was named to six All-Star teams, and won at least 18 games five times in his career.
Dave Concepcion spent 19 seasons as the Cincinnati Reds shortstop, compiling a .267 average with 2,326 hits, 321 stolen bases and two Silver Slugger Awards, along five Gold Glove Awards and nine All-Star Game selections.
Steve Garvey compiled a .294 career average over 19 major league seasons with the Dodgers and Padres, amassing 2,599 hits, 272 home runs, 1,308 RBI and 10 All-Star Game selections. He hit .338 with 11 home runs and 31 RBI in 11 postseason series, was named the 1978 and 1984 NLCS MVP and won the 1981 Roberto Clemente Award. Garvey won four Gold Glove Awards and played in an N.L. record 1,207 straight games.
Pat Gillick spent 27 years as the general manager for the Blue Jays, Orioles, Mariners and Phillies, winning at every stop along the way, with his teams earning nine post-season berths and three World Series championships. In his 27 years as GM, his teams finished with a winning record 20 times.
Ron Guidry pitched 14 seasons for the New York Yankees, compiling a 170-91 record, a 3.29 ERA and a strikeout-to-walk ratio of 2.81-to-1. In 10 postseason starts, Guidry was 5-2 with a 3.02 ERA. Four times he won 18 games or more in a season, including a Cy Young Award winning 1978 season with a 25-3, 1.74 era record.
Tommy John pitched 26 seasons for the Indians, Dodgers, Yankees, Angels and A’s, finishing his career after the 1989 season with a record of 288-231 and 3.34 ERA. His 700 career starts rank eighth on the all-time list and his 4,710.1 innings rank 20th all-time.
Billy Martin spent 16 seasons 1969, 1971-83, 1985, 1988) managing the Twins, Tigers, Rangers, Yankees (five different stints) and A’s, compiling a 1,253-1015 record (.552). Martin’s teams finished in first place five times, winning two American League pennants and one World Series with 1977 Yankees.
Marvin Miller was elected as the head of the Major League Baseball Players Association in 1966 and quickly turned the union into a powerhouse. Within a decade, Miller had secured free agency for the players. By the time he retired in 1982, the average player salary was approximately 10 times what it was when he took over.
Al Oliver compiled 2,743 hits in 18 seasons with the Pirates, Rangers, Expos, Giants, Phillies, Dodgers and Blue Jays. He finished with a .303 career average, 529 doubles and 1,326 RBI, recording 10 seasons with a .300 or higher average, including nine straight from 1976-1984.
Ted Simmons played for 21 seasons, totaling a .285 batting average, 2,472 hits, 483 doubles, 248 home runs and 1,389 RBI for the Cardinals, Brewers and Braves. An 8-time All-Star, he garnered MVP votes six times in his career.
Rusty Staub totaled 2,716 hits in a 23-year major league career, with a .279 average, 292 home runs, 1,466 RBI and six All-Star Game selections. He appeared in at least 150 games in 12 seasons, and his 2,951 big league games rank No. 12 on the all-time list.
George Steinbrenner guided the New York Yankees franchise as principal owner from purchasing the team in 1973 to his death in 2010, with his teams winning 11 American League pennants and seven World Series titles.





Go Yankees !
Hallelujah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I heard a segment on one of the xm shows where they stated that fans’ opinions regarding Steinbrenner were clearly divided by age, over or under 30. I don’t agree w/ that. I am certainly over 30, and remember all the chaos that he caused, but I still think he was a great owner.
I am happy to see Guidry on the ballot, he will always be a HOF to me. And I remember all the excitement every time Vida Blue pitched. And Rusty Staub, Le Grand Orange, from his Expos days…lots of good memories reading thru that list.
that is good news Pat…now if FOX would replace Buck/McCarver I would really be happy.
To me, the saving grace of Joe Morgan is how much he loves Robbie.
Feel kind of bad about Miller. I’ve always thought he was excellent, though probably better suited to radio. Morgan really dragged him down, IMO.
I hear that a leak for Jeters contract came out… 3 yrs between 45-60 mil
From MLB Trade Rumors:
Yankees Likely To Offer Jeter $45-60MM
By Ben Nicholson-Smith
November 8 at 4:18pm CST
“The Yankees are likely to offer Derek Jeter a three-year deal worth $45-60MM, according to Wallace Matthews of ESPNNewYork.com. One of Matthews’ sources, someone intimately familiar with knowledge of the team’s negotiations with agent Casey Close, says the Yankees are prepared to “overpay” the shortstop.
No team other than the Yankees has shown interest in Jeter, according to Matthews’ sources. That’s not a surprise, considering that Jeter seems likely to re-sign in New York. Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports wrote Friday that “Jeter is still Jeter, the Yankees are still the Yankees and no other team will be a factor” [in the negotiations]. ESPN.com’s Buster Olney reported that the Yankees are willing to pay Jeter more than any other team would, even though they aren’t going to invest recklessly in their captain.
MLBTR’s Tim Dierkes predicted a four-year $65MM deal between Jeter and the Yankees”.
He’s always such a kill joy
jimbaumbach But Bob Feller told me he thought it was “borderline” whether George Steinbrenner would get the necessary 12 of 16 votes to make the HOF.
pat -
I could not imagine what you were “Hallelujah” -ing! LOL
I wonder who the replacements will be.
“jimbaumbach But Bob Feller told me he thought it was “borderline” whether George Steinbrenner would get the necessary 12 of 16 votes to make the HOF.”
Were he to miss this time, he would come up again at some point, right?
I don’t mind Miller….he’s actually pretty good IMO. Curious to see who they pair him with if he stays on..
Doreen
I don’t Hallelujah often so you knew it was worth reading.
I forgot the links get abbreviated or else I would have written more than Hallelujah.
pat-I just got home, saw your “hallelujah” and thought Jeter had re-signed. So, thanks for that.
Miller’s pronunciation of some names is like nails on a chalkboard to me.
If I never hear him same Adrian Bell-TRAY again it will be fine with me.
I can’t think of anyone currently with ESPN that would be any better than Morgan…..a Miller/Sutcliffe combo would have folks begging for the return of Joe Morgan
upstate kate November 8th, 2010 at 5:58 pm
…now if FOX would replace Buck/McCarver I would really be happy.
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Me too.
Miller’s Bob Shepard impersonation is pretty good.
hear him same = hear him say
Erin
Sorry. My excitement got the best of me and I didn’t think.
“a Miller/Sutcliffe combo would have folks begging for the return of Joe Morgan”
Anyone and Sutcliffe would have folks begging for Joe Morgan
Hershiser? Boone? Nomar?
ESPN is probably going for a younger demographic.
They should hire Leiter.
I liked Miller’s SAFE! call.
Two time Heist Jimmy from Rikers tweets- Tino Martinez will be the new voice of Sunday Night baseball.
From the article:
It is nearly certain that Miller will be replaced by Dan Shulman, who will be joined by Orel Hershiser, whom ESPN added to “Sunday Night” last season. Bobby Valentine might be the third voice if he does not get a managing job. Williamson declined to talk about the new team
pat-not a problem.
Erin -
I had the same thought.
Wishful thinking.
Tommy John might have won 300 + plus games if not for the surgery named after him. There’s no telling how many arms have been saved by TJ surgery.
He also pitched for mostly bad teams not giving him much run support and still won 288 games.
Doreen-the man seriously cannot re-sign soon enough.
I’d be happier to see Kay replaced than Miller and Morgan.
Miller gets a bad rap because his partner brings the entire team down.
Kay impacts a lot more Yankee games on YES than Miller and Morgan did with ESPN.
Erin -
Amen.
Giuseppe Franco -
I think with all these guys there’s a complacency that sets in and they just phone it in to some extent – do a lot less homework. If they were this “bad” when they first started, they wouldn’t have lasted. But it’s hard to stay fresh, I’d imagine.
Still that’s partly ESPN’s fault – they could have mixed up teams more. In a way, YES is ahead of the curve in that way – the rotating co-broadcasters that Kay works with help at least a little bit. The Mets trio seems to work well together, but even then, occasionally Hernandez or Darling take turns taking a break.
As long as we’re on the topic, will somebody please replace John Sterling with someone who can accurately describe what is happening on the field?
Please and thank you.
Miller and Morgan two of the worst announcers in the history of all sports
Good riddance you pathetic losers
Wouldn’t mind if Hawk Harrelson and Stone became the new PBP team on ESPN
Front Burner Show 8-9 pm MLB Network. Talking Cliff Lee, Crawford vs. Werth, Jeter, Beltre, Dunn, etc.
From Jon Heyman
Harrelson is awful too. It is hard to get good play by play people it seems. It is much easier to get the color guys.
WYCF…is that NY time?
Yes I believe that’s EST
BloggingBombers Agent Darek Braunecker on a Cliff Lee deal: “We don?t handicap the timing of this stuff, but we don?t anticipate this happening too quickly?
BloggingBombers Braunecker did confirm that there are no plans for a Pavano-like “Cliff-A-Palooza” tour.
There is absolutely no motivation for Cliff Lee to sign quickly. He’s the only game in town and the passage of time will only drive his price higher. It’s the ultimate poker game with Lee holding all the cards.
pat, thanks for the link. I like Shulman. His radio partner is Dave Campbell. I generally don’t listen to them call Yankees games, but they’re a good team. I wouldn’t be opposed to that team on Sunday nights.
I don’t like Miller, but I might be able to tolerate him on radio with a different partner.
they won’t give Jeter a pay cut per year..won’t happen
a part of me might actually miss those awkward moments where Joe Morgan states something so incredibly idiotic that, for a moment, time actually stands still.