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Pettitte: If I come back, it’s Yankees or nothing and one year max

Posted by: Sam Borden - Posted in Misc on Nov 12, 2010 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

933270449_apYD7-MAs we talked about earlier this week, history would show that we’re still at least a few weeks away from getting an Andy Pettitte decision on whether he’ll retire or return. Pettitte did talk to a reporter at a charity golf tournament in Texas yesterday, though, and made comments that indicated right now he’s leaning towards retiring. He also made it clear that if he does pitch in 2011 it would be his final season.

“Right now, I can tell you my heart’s right here in Deer Park,” Pettitte told KHOU.com. “If something happens and I play one more year that would be it. It would be one more year and that would be it.”

I’m sure there are some Yankees fans who get frustrated by Pettitte’s indecision, but it’s obvious that his family is a big pull for him. In the same interview, he talked about how he feels like each year he returns to baseball is another year where he’s going to be missing important moments in his kids’ lives.

“My kids are getting older and one’s going to be out of high school real soon, and I’m not going to miss his whole high school,” Pettitte said. “I want to be able to be here and see some of his stuff and you can’t see his stuff playing major league baseball.  I just feel like a have a big responsibility here.  I have three boys.  I feel like I need to be around and raise them and I feel like we’re getting to that point where it’s the crucial ages of their lives that I need to be around a little bit more.”

Obviously the Yankees are counting on Pettitte to continue to be a key piece of their starting rotation though there are no guarantees he’ll return. The Daily News reported earlier today that the Yankees might have interest in Jorge De La Rosa if their pursuit of Cliff Lee falls through, but would they consider him if Pettitte retires? I’d say it’s unlikely, mostly because De La Rosa is a Type-A free agent; losing a draft pick for a No. 1 starter is one thing, but losing one for a middle-of-the-rotation guy is less palatable.

One thing the Yankees don’t have to worry about is Pettitte returning to the Astros. “It’ll be New York or it’ll be nowhere for sure,” Pettitte said. “(I) just feel like I’ve done too many things up there and too many special things up there with that group of guys for too many years, not to finish it up … up there.”

* That’s an AP shot of Pettitte with one of his sons, Luke, at the 2010 All-Star Game.

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146 Responses to “Pettitte: If I come back, it’s Yankees or nothing and one year max”

  1. Betsy November 12th, 2010 at 6:08 pm

    I can’t blame Andy at all………those quotes aren’t too promising. That said, his sons love their dad in pinstripes, so all is not lost yet. If he retires, he went out on top in terms of how well he pitched.

  2. upstate kate November 12th, 2010 at 6:10 pm

    It would be nice for the fans to have Andy one last year, if only to show him how much he has been appreciated.

  3. DaSaint007 November 12th, 2010 at 6:15 pm

    How timely…

    Repost:

    think that Cashman could sign De La Rosa as insurance for the following reasons:

    1) in case Andy retires, De La Rosa’s agent can raise his asking price, particularly since Lee would be considered the only viable – though expensive alternative.

    2) As a fallback option if Lee either stays in Texas or goes elsewhere.

    3) Because you can never have too much pitching, particularly left-handed and in their prime.

    4) Because if you sign him to an affordable contract, and you determine that you don’t need him, you can always trade him to someone who does.

    5) It keeps the bidding low on Lee as the Yankees would appear out of the running, keeping his asking price low.

    Again, it could be the Swisher effect.

  4. Tarheel In NYC November 12th, 2010 at 6:16 pm

    I completely understand and sympathize with Andy’s reasons for contemplating retirement.

    In terms of MY needs being met, however, I hope he’ll come back for one more year so that we can have time to tell him “good-bye” as fans. 2011 can be his official Farewell Tour :)

  5. West Coast Yankee Fan November 12th, 2010 at 6:17 pm

    Uh oh! We’re toast!

    The Red Sox just acquired Andrew Miller for Dustin Richardson. 1-5 with an 8.54 ERA!

  6. West Coast Yankee Fan November 12th, 2010 at 6:19 pm

    I’m so tired of this Pettitte nonsense every single year. Retire already and let’s move on.

  7. blake November 12th, 2010 at 6:20 pm

    I hope its one more year but Andy will decide whatever is best for him im sure….

  8. Betsy November 12th, 2010 at 6:20 pm

    I still think there’s a chance he’ll come back; the season just ended a few weeks ago and he’s reveling in time with his family.

    However, should he not – that really puts the rotation in flux, esp. as there is no guarantee Lee signs here.

  9. pat November 12th, 2010 at 6:22 pm

    “The Red Sox just acquired Andrew Miller for Dustin Richardson. 1-5 with an 8.54 ERA!”

    Change of scenery trade?

  10. upstate kate November 12th, 2010 at 6:24 pm

    I am not tired of the “Pettitte nonsense” as the end result is he comes back to pitch another year. It sounds like he struggles w/ the decision every year, and I can’t say I blame him. I just hope he makes his mind up quickly.

  11. pat November 12th, 2010 at 6:24 pm

    Give Andy days off to fly home between starts while the kids are in school and a NetJets membership.

  12. West Coast Yankee Fan November 12th, 2010 at 6:28 pm

    And so in the meantime what is Cashman supposed to do? Let the slim pickings disappear from the free agent pool while he waits?

    “I’m just going to wait and see what my heart wants me to do”.

    Give me a break.

  13. Betsy November 12th, 2010 at 6:28 pm

    I can wait as long as it takes, but while it doesn’t affect the Lee talks, it does affect how the Yankees would handle the rest of their rotation. If Andy drags this into December/January, some of their other choices for the back of the rotation may have signed already.

  14. LGY November 12th, 2010 at 6:29 pm

    Players (like Lee is in the process of doing) take their sweet time to decide on what team they want to play for and what offer they will take.

    The motivations are different but the timetable is the same or similar.

    Pettittes willingness to go year to year has been a great benefit to the Yankees. He can take as much time he needs.

  15. Betsy November 12th, 2010 at 6:31 pm

    If the Yankees feel the need to move before Andy has said something, they will make it known to him………….

  16. BIG AL November 12th, 2010 at 6:31 pm

    I think Jon Garland would do well in NY. Not too costly, made $4.7 million last year, and the past 2 seasons had good ERA’s.

    He knows the AL, so little learning curve, any thoughts?

  17. Irreverent Discourse November 12th, 2010 at 6:31 pm

    WCYF – if there were other players to fill that spot better than pettite i’d be worried… but the FA starter pool begins and ends with Lee.

  18. Betsy November 12th, 2010 at 6:32 pm

    They should take their time; it’s their lives and their careers. If the teams can’t wait, they have every right to move on………….but the players have every right to take as long as they need to make the right decision for them.

  19. Irreverent Discourse November 12th, 2010 at 6:32 pm

    big al – garland is a contact pitcher, bad fit for him with the porch.

  20. BIG AL November 12th, 2010 at 6:37 pm

    Irreverent Discourse November 12th, 2010 at 6:32 pm
    big al – garland is a contact pitcher, bad fit for him with the porch.

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    Any thoughts about Chris Young, big RH, and around $6.3/yr.

  21. DaSaint007 November 12th, 2010 at 6:38 pm

    Yankee rotation isn’t as bad as it seems.
    CC will probably be 20-10.
    AJ will probably rebound and be 15-10 instead of 10-15.
    Phil may drop off a bit to 15-10
    Andy was 11-3. Could that be replaced affordably? Sure…and that might not mean Lee.
    Javy was 10-10, which I’d take in a hearbeat from Nova in his first year.

  22. Warning Track Power November 12th, 2010 at 6:40 pm

    After reading his comments, Andy will return for 1 final year. If the Yankees won the WS again this year, I think that win would have made it very easy for Andy to retire.
    No WS, means he returns for a final year.
    Where the fans can cheer for him every start and give him the proper sendoff=WS title!!

    I want Andy back
    I think Cash and Giradi want Andy back
    Imagine this rotation

    C.C.
    Hughes
    Cliff Lee
    Andy
    Nova
    **assuming Yankees sign Lee**

  23. West Coast Yankee Fan November 12th, 2010 at 6:41 pm

    Pettitte has the right, but it’s not the right thing to do in my opinion. When an organization has paid you tens of millions of dollars and treated you with as much respect as they have treated him, I feel he has an obligation to tell them his decision in a more timely manner.

    He has been through this thought process after the season before, it’s not an alien dynamic to him. Take a week or so, unwind, go to dinner with the wife and talk about it, talk to the kids and make a decision. Do you want another $12 million dollars or not? Just tell Cashman so he can do what he needs to do. Are we also to believe that he wasn’t thinking about it during the season betwen starts or when he was injured?

    I feel Pettitte owes it to the club and his team mates. Just make a decision.

  24. Irreverent Discourse November 12th, 2010 at 6:41 pm

    i don’t know that chris young (or brandon webb for that mattter) will even get that much of a contract… this is his 3rd attempt at comback from injuries that started a few years ago… bigger risk than sheets and duchsherer were last year.

    Young and Webb are very intriguing pieces, but I don’t see the yankees spending money on big injury reclamation projects. especially with having to hire a new pitching coach.

  25. Rich in NJ November 12th, 2010 at 6:41 pm

    He’ll be back.

  26. Warning Track Power November 12th, 2010 at 6:41 pm

    Oops………….what was I thinking. Sorry A.J. I did not mean to type Nova, oops………..

    A rotation in 2011 w/Cliff Lee wearing pinstripes

    C.C.
    Hughes
    Cliff Lee
    A.J.
    Andy

    Nova assuming the role as the 6th starter(when needed)

  27. BIG AL November 12th, 2010 at 6:42 pm

    Warning Track Power November 12th, 2010 at 6:40 pm

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    I’d love that rotation.

  28. Betsy November 12th, 2010 at 6:42 pm

    I’m not about to predict records – a lot of that’s depending on run support – but AJ making that kind of turnaround? I doubt it a great deal.

  29. BIG AL November 12th, 2010 at 6:43 pm

    WTP -

    There you go, ruining my dream rotation.

  30. Betsy November 12th, 2010 at 6:43 pm

    I’m pretty sure Lee would be right behind CC, lol

  31. Irreverent Discourse November 12th, 2010 at 6:43 pm

    Pettitte doesn’t owe anything to anyone. He was talked back off of the retirement ledge how many times now?

    At no point will the Yankees pass on someone because they are waiting for Pettitte to make a decision. Last years Damon debacle, and prior instances (like when swisher was signed, and they were still in on teixeira) only enforce this.

  32. Warning Track Power November 12th, 2010 at 6:43 pm

    West Coast-
    I disagree. Because Andy’s resume is so brilliant and his performance last year was very, very good, Andy deserves to take his time with his decision.
    Imagine you’re the GM-When a player decides he does or does not want to play, I’m sure you want the player to be 100% sure with the decision.
    A nightmare scenario would be to rush the player into a decision he will regret after signing on the dotted line or after watching the Yankees sign his replacement.

  33. AldotheApache November 12th, 2010 at 6:44 pm

    It’s frustrating for us but perfectly understandable what Pettitte goes through during the winter. It’s hard to leave your family behind like that. And family trumps baseball, period.

  34. Irreverent Discourse November 12th, 2010 at 6:45 pm

    betsy – for a playoff series maybe, but throughout the season you would want the lefties split up, it helps the bullpen more to have split days off than consecutive.

  35. Betsy November 12th, 2010 at 6:47 pm

    ID, I understand what you’re saying, but I want Lee pitching more than Phil.

  36. AldotheApache November 12th, 2010 at 6:47 pm

    And it would be foolish to think that the Yankees are waiting with bated breath for Andy to make a decision. Andy KNOWS that. He learned it the hard way 2-3 years ago, when he left a $10MM offer on the table, the Yankees moved on, and he ended up having to sign for a low base plus performance bonuses.

  37. Warning Track Power November 12th, 2010 at 6:47 pm

    Andy deserves a pass.
    The same can be said for Jeter, Jorge and Mo(if they were presented with a similar situation in the near future)
    SUPERSTARS get a pass in sports.
    I’m sure Cash and the Yankees understand that 1000%

    Sorry to ruining that dream rotation some of you have in your head.

    Unless a miracle happens in The Bronx, I don’t see how A.J. can not be wearing the pinstripes in 2011

  38. Betsy November 12th, 2010 at 6:48 pm

    I want Lee pitching more than anyone except CC

  39. West Coast Yankee Fan November 12th, 2010 at 6:49 pm

    I respect the opinions above, I understand the points being made. I see it differently. I’m sure it will work out.

  40. BIG AL November 12th, 2010 at 6:51 pm

    Those of us that are parents may have a better understanding what Andy is going through. To leave your family for 9 months, and only talk to your kids by phone, and not be there to watch moments in their lives, that may come just once, and not be a part in raising them during that long season is really tough. So, to dismiss the process Andy goes through each year so frivolously, is just a lack of human understanding.

  41. Doreen November 12th, 2010 at 6:51 pm

    Last season, Teixeira took a couple of days for the birth of a child and people went nuts saying there was no reason for him to take so much time. Can anyone imagine if Andy decided he needed a couple of days to be home for his son’s Junior Prom or something along those lines? :?

    I like that Pettitte doesn’t rush his decision either way. And by now, we’re all used to it, the Yankees are used to it. And they have a plan B or C, knowing the uncertainty Andy deals with every off season.

    I’ve said all along I thought Pettitte would not come back. But actually, the interview above gives me hope that he will be back because he talked about it being definitively as being his last.

  42. Betsy November 12th, 2010 at 6:51 pm

    I never said I don’t want AJ here, but I’m not going to assume any improvement in him until I see it.

    Cash is not the kind of guy to pressure a player. He didn’t pressure CC (and I know CC said he appreciate it) and he won’t do it with Andy………Aldo, that’s a good point.

  43. AldotheApache November 12th, 2010 at 6:52 pm

    West Coast Yankee Fan November 12th, 2010 at 6:41 pm
    Pettitte has the right, but it’s not the right thing to do in my opinion. When an organization has paid you tens of millions of dollars and treated you with as much respect as they have treated him, I feel he has an obligation to tell them his decision in a more timely manner.

    He has been through this thought process after the season before, it’s not an alien dynamic to him. Take a week or so, unwind, go to dinner with the wife and talk about it, talk to the kids and make a decision. Do you want another $12 million dollars or not? Just tell Cashman so he can do what he needs to do. Are we also to believe that he wasn’t thinking about it during the season betwen starts or when he was injured?

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    See? That’s why you’ve never been able to hold onto a woman.

  44. BIG AL November 12th, 2010 at 6:52 pm

    Later folks.

  45. AldotheApache November 12th, 2010 at 6:53 pm

    BIG AL November 12th, 2010 at 6:51 pm
    Those of us that are parents may have a better understanding what Andy is going through. To leave your family for 9 months, and only talk to your kids by phone, and not be there to watch moments in their lives, that may come just once, and not be a part in raising them during that long season is really tough. So, to dismiss the process Andy goes through each year so frivolously, is just a lack of human understanding.

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    Absolutely!

  46. hardwired7 November 12th, 2010 at 6:55 pm

    for any ‘Cuse fans out there:

    Let’s Go Orange!

    the game is on ESPN3 in a few minutes

  47. DaSaint007 November 12th, 2010 at 6:56 pm

    As a new father, I can understand Andy’s struggle. I could only imagine how difficult that must be in their formative years.

  48. West Coast Yankee Fan November 12th, 2010 at 6:58 pm

    AldotheApache November 12th, 2010 at 6:52 pm

    See? That’s why you’ve never been able to hold onto a woman.

    **********************************

    Let all the blog participants see for themselves how out of line this troll is and how he integrates personal attacks into a reasoned baseball conversation. This is the same freak who ridiculed another mother who passed away after a long fight against cancer.

  49. upstate kate November 12th, 2010 at 6:59 pm

    hey congrats Saint :)

    It is a tough decision for Andy, and a decision that most parents have to make in one regard or another. On the positive side, he gets to totally be w/ them until spring training.

    I would like one more season w/ the Core 4 intact.

  50. West Coast Yankee Fan November 12th, 2010 at 7:00 pm

    Here’s an example of Aldotheapache’s “humanity”. He’s doing his best to fool everyone.

    ********************

    AldotheApache
    June 12, 2010 3:49 PM

    Thames is hurt? Good!

  51. 108 stitches November 12th, 2010 at 7:03 pm

    As said before, the cameras will be clicking when Jeter is approaching hit No. 3,000 and they’ll be clicking later in the year when the final days of Andy and Jorge are winding down.

  52. AldotheApache November 12th, 2010 at 7:07 pm

    West Coast Yankee Fan November 12th, 2010 at 6:58 pm
    AldotheApache November 12th, 2010 at 6:52 pm

    See? That’s why you’ve never been able to hold onto a woman.

    **********************************

    Let all the blog participants see for themselves how out of line this troll is and how he integrates personal attacks into a reasoned baseball conversation.

    =============================================

    DON’T get your bloomers in such a twist!!!!!

    I’m just trying to give you some big brother-type advice here!!!!!!

  53. West Coast Yankee Fan November 12th, 2010 at 7:11 pm

    AldotheApache
    June 12, 2010 3:49 PM

    Thames is hurt? Good!

  54. AldotheApache November 12th, 2010 at 7:14 pm

    C’mon, you can do better! Be the ‘bigger’ man here! Figuratively, of course!

  55. blake November 12th, 2010 at 7:15 pm

    Kinda makes me a little sick that the Red Sox now have two tarheels :(

  56. West Coast Yankee Fan November 12th, 2010 at 7:21 pm

    You’re coming unglued as you usually do at happy hour. I have another twenty posts of yours far worse than any I have posted here recently. Keep it up troll.

  57. Doreen November 12th, 2010 at 7:22 pm

    Stop the insanity, please?!?!

  58. West Coast Yankee Fan November 12th, 2010 at 7:22 pm

    Here’s one of AldotheApache’s racist posts:

    AldotheApache
    May 14, 2010 9:07 PM

    Can someone PLEASE explain to me what a fine young thing like Beyonce is doing with that sad-lookin fish-lipped horse-face dude? I know he’s got mad money, but.

  59. AldotheApache November 12th, 2010 at 7:23 pm

    I’ve been wondering what kind of moves the Red Sox will be making this winter.

    So far, the scuttlebutt is Buck and Werth. If Beckett decides to have a good year this time around, that would give them a solid rotation. Their BP doesn’t scare me.

    I give them credit for not going after VMart (at least so far). He might end up returning with them, but on their terms, not his.

  60. West Coast Yankee Fan November 12th, 2010 at 7:24 pm

    Doreen. You know I am here talking baseball. You need to address your plea to aldotheapache. He starts this.

  61. AldotheApache November 12th, 2010 at 7:25 pm

    Yeeeeaaah, I remember that one! Beyonce IS too fine for a guy that looks like Secretariat.

    I stand by my statement!

    Now try to be grown up and talk about the Yankees, junior. No one’s interested in your vitriol.

    Btw, you been saving my posts????? Awwwwww, how cute!!!

  62. AldotheApache November 12th, 2010 at 7:26 pm

    I’LL ignore him, Doreen.

  63. blake November 12th, 2010 at 7:27 pm

    You both talk baseball as long as the other isn’t around….can’t you two just play nice. You’re both Yankee fans apparently…same team.

  64. West Coast Yankee Fan November 12th, 2010 at 7:28 pm

    There you have it. Aldo thinks it’s appropriate to refer to an African-American as a “fish-lipped horse-face dude”.

  65. mick November 12th, 2010 at 7:28 pm

    is it game time yet?

  66. AldotheApache November 12th, 2010 at 7:29 pm

    blake, he’s not really a Yankee fan. He’s a disaffected Mets fan, who jumped on our bandwagon.

    But that’s another discussion for another day.

  67. West Coast Yankee Fan November 12th, 2010 at 7:29 pm

    I will let it go out of respect for you Dorren and Blake and everyone else. If you read up though it’s clear who precipitates this.

  68. West Coast Yankee Fan November 12th, 2010 at 7:30 pm

    Right Aldo, a Mets fan. When have I ever said a word about the Mets you freak. Now keep your word and stick to baseball.

  69. AldotheApache November 12th, 2010 at 7:30 pm

    No, I think it’s appropriate to refer to a fish-lipped horse-face dude as a fish-lipped horse-face dude.

    Now … back to baseball!!!!!!!

  70. West Coast Yankee Fan November 12th, 2010 at 7:31 pm

    Aldo you are a racist pig. I’m glad others got to see the real you.

  71. AldotheApache November 12th, 2010 at 7:31 pm

    C’mon now, deep breaths!!!!!

  72. AldotheApache November 12th, 2010 at 7:32 pm

    West Coast Yankee Fan November 12th, 2010 at 7:29 pm
    I will let it go out of respect for you Dorren and Blake and everyone else.

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    You promised!!!

  73. Tom in N.J. November 12th, 2010 at 7:33 pm

    Pettitte will be back.

    One last time…

  74. GreenBeret7 November 12th, 2010 at 7:35 pm

    OK, so we’ve had a week of how overpaid, selfish, under performing and useless Jeter is in the field, how Cano isn’t the best 2nd baseman in baseball, and has limited range despite the fact that he led all major league 2nd baseman in total chances, putouts, assists double plays turned along with fewest errors made. Odd that they talk about Jeter not being worthy because Andrus and Pennington handled more chances, but that doesn’t apply to Cano.

    Now, it’s time to turn on that selfish Pettitte because he hasn’t made a decision 3 weeks after the season and 3 weeks before the winter meetings. Somebody has his lace panties in a wad and wants him to just retire. If NYYs aren’t pushing for an immediate answer, what gives you the right to demand on?

  75. murphydog November 12th, 2010 at 7:35 pm

    Pettitte owes nothing to the Yankees. He’s left it all out on the field, playing as if each year was his last, in part because every year could be at this point in his life.

    Cashman doesn’t have to wait for Andy, he chooses to. That’s on Cash in his judgment as GM. If he thought Andy wasn’t worth the wait, he wouldn’t be taking his call when it came.

  76. Doreen November 12th, 2010 at 7:36 pm

    WCYH & AldotheApache -

    I don’t care who started what, who said what to whom, who is the troll, whatever.

    I have been able to have good conversation with each of you. It’s apparent that the two of you don’t get along for whatever reason (and I don’t care what that reason is ) or history or whatever. And right now, I’m reading what blake said “Play Nice.” Yes. Play Nice. Sometimes I know it’s difficult when someone rubs you the wrong way or gets on your last nerve, but resist the urge to bicker. Please. For the rest of us.

  77. AldotheApache November 12th, 2010 at 7:36 pm

    Tom, the question is, considering the lean market for SP, is he going to hit them up for a raise?

    Everyone’s assuming that all Andy needs to do is decide to come back. But money was a problem once before, if memory serves.

  78. mick November 12th, 2010 at 7:36 pm

    They assume Andy will be back, why would he turn down that kind of money?

  79. Doreen November 12th, 2010 at 7:36 pm

    murphydog -

    Perfectly stated about Andy.

  80. AldotheApache November 12th, 2010 at 7:38 pm

    Resisting the urge, Doreen …

    But remember, I’m only human!

  81. BIG AL November 12th, 2010 at 7:40 pm

    GB7 -

    How did things go in DC, – Everything came OUT OK, I hope.

  82. West Coast Yankee Fan November 12th, 2010 at 7:41 pm

    No equivocation on my part Doreen. I agree.

  83. Yankee Trader November 12th, 2010 at 7:42 pm

    Changing the subject:

    The Rangers are contacting Victor Martinez and agent in hopes of reuniting him with Lee.
    Do you think Lee has any concerns of whom he’d be paired up as his catcher. Bengie Molina for one year, anyone?

  84. AldotheApache November 12th, 2010 at 7:43 pm

    And no using other handles to circumvent the agreement, OK???

    Just sayin.

  85. BIG AL November 12th, 2010 at 7:44 pm

    Yankee Trader -

    Bengie did show he has great speed on the base paths, lol.

  86. Doreen November 12th, 2010 at 7:45 pm

    Yankee Trader -

    Ya think Lee requested a personal catcher?????? ;)

  87. Yankee Trader November 12th, 2010 at 7:45 pm

    Andy for one more year. He can be honored along with his batterymate, Posada, as their last year in pinstripes.

  88. AldotheApache November 12th, 2010 at 7:46 pm

    Yankee Trader, in my estimation, VMart is a 1B/DH. He may be marketing himself as a catcher. He may have caught some games last season. And the Rangers may very well sign him to catch. It’ll cost them if they do, imo.

  89. BIG AL November 12th, 2010 at 7:46 pm

    After all the teams Lee has been with, I doubt he requested, or needs a special catcher, just a player with a glove that can catch the pitch, and throw it back to Lee.

  90. GreenBeret7 November 12th, 2010 at 7:50 pm

    Al, thanks for asking. All tests are done, but not all the results are in. Thay should be by Tuesday. I’ll have a conference call with everyone one except Nurse Karloff. She went to climb The Empire State Building. Please pray that they don’t shoot her done. She’s scary but harmless.

  91. BIG AL November 12th, 2010 at 7:50 pm

    Could you see the emotion of the last game at YS next season, Andy pitching to Jorge, one last time. The place would be packed full of fans and excitement.

  92. Yankee Trader November 12th, 2010 at 7:51 pm

    BIG AL-

    Did you mention earlier about acquiring Chris Young? He came back from a strained shoulder and pitched 14 innings[3 games], in September, giving up 2 runs. Is 6’10″ 270lbs. Might be worth an incentive based contract as his 8.5M contract for 2011 was not picked up.

  93. murphydog November 12th, 2010 at 7:52 pm

    Is there some value added to having VMart catch Lee as opposed to someone who can actually catch :) IMO, not sure Lee wants VMart as his catcher anymore.

    Bengie Molina on the Yankees? Sure, Bengie for a year then Yadier for a year, the year after that. Then the Yankees will hold the record for employing “the most brothers catching at the ends of their careers.” Seriously, I suppose Bengie would be fine as that “cushion” catcher Cash was talking about. But does he really want to keep playing and at what price?

  94. BIG AL November 12th, 2010 at 7:52 pm

    Nurse Karloff must be from Europe, they love all that body hair.

  95. RMS November 12th, 2010 at 7:53 pm

    Yankees will sign Lee, so if Andy retires and I hope he doesn’t, the Starters will be

    CC
    Lee
    Hughes
    AJ
    Maybe Nova

    So Andy can take his time.

  96. GreenBeret7 November 12th, 2010 at 7:53 pm

    A perfect send off for Andy Pettitte will be a completely injury free 20 win season and 4 post season wins to win #28.

  97. AldotheApache November 12th, 2010 at 7:54 pm

    GB7, hope everything is well with you.

  98. BIG AL November 12th, 2010 at 7:55 pm

    Yankee Trader November 12th, 2010 at 7:51 pm

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    Chris Young was just a thought because he’s been a decent pitcher since his days with Texas, and might provide a cheap SP for the back of the rotation. I’d sign him low, with incentives.

  99. GreenBeret7 November 12th, 2010 at 7:56 pm

    If Pettitte isn’t one of 5 starters, my money is on David Phelps beating out Nova for the spot. Noesi will move in front of Nova, who just might be trade bait.

  100. Yankee Trader November 12th, 2010 at 7:56 pm

    GB7- It’s too bad Mike Mussina didn’t come back for one more season to win #27!

  101. BIG AL November 12th, 2010 at 7:56 pm

    OK – good night, enjoy!

  102. Giuseppe Franco November 12th, 2010 at 7:56 pm

    So how exactly is Cashman’s offseason plans being put on hold because of Pettitte’s indecision just a few weeks after the season is over?

    Good grief. WCYF needs to get a life.

    Offseasons tend to be slow until the Winter Meetings begin, which is still a few weeks away.

  103. murphydog November 12th, 2010 at 7:57 pm

    She went to climb The Empire State Building. Please pray that they don’t shoot her done. She’s scary but harmless.

    “Oh no, it wasn’t the airplanes. It was beauty killed the beast.”

  104. GreenBeret7 November 12th, 2010 at 7:58 pm

    Thanks, Aldo. Much appreciated. We’ll know soon enough. I must be alright. My Snarkogram was up to par.

  105. GreenBeret7 November 12th, 2010 at 8:00 pm

    Yankee Trader November 12th, 2010 at 7:56 pm
    GB7- It’s too bad Mike Mussina didn’t come back for one more season to win #27!

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    If Mussina had returned for 2009, you have to wonder if Cashman still goes after Burnett and moves Chamberlain a year earlier.

  106. Giuseppe Franco November 12th, 2010 at 8:00 pm

    GB,

    Hope all is well with your health these days and a belated Happy Veterans Day.

    Wasn’t on much yesterday with all the Jeter whining. One can only read so much garbage before they gag.

  107. upstate kate November 12th, 2010 at 8:01 pm

    glad to hear your check up went well GB

    I thought Bengie had planned to retire…OTOH Pedro is still available…as is Jermaine Dye

  108. GreenBeret7 November 12th, 2010 at 8:02 pm

    murphydog November 12th, 2010 at 7:57 pm
    She went to climb The Empire State Building. Please pray that they don’t shoot her done. She’s scary but harmless.

    “Oh no, it wasn’t the airplanes. It was beauty killed the beast.”

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    I’ve never been called a beauty before, but, it sounds good. Thanks for the kind words, Murph.

  109. Tom in N.J. November 12th, 2010 at 8:02 pm

    GB, glad to hear your well.

  110. murphydog November 12th, 2010 at 8:03 pm

    GB7

    Roger that hang fire on the test results. I got your six.

  111. pat November 12th, 2010 at 8:06 pm

    Cashman said yesterday he had no timetable on an answer from Andy because he didn’t have anyone else to sign immediately.

    He’ll probably proceed as if Andy isn’t coming back and get an answer when Andy gives it or Cash needs it- whichever comes fist.

  112. GreenBeret7 November 12th, 2010 at 8:07 pm

    Thanks, GF. Much appreciated for the thoughts. Best compliment any vet could get is, “Thanks”.

    The insanity of the Jeter crap is ridiculous. The BS that Cano isn’t the best 2nd baseman in baseball is just as stupid. So much for the idiotic metrics that can be twisted however they want it. Numbers may not lie, but they sure can get perverted.

  113. Lost November 12th, 2010 at 8:07 pm

    Pett:

    It’s totally understandable that Andy is leaning more towards retiring. He’s had one heck of a career. As I said a couple weeks ago, most Yanks teammates and executives felt that Andy was leaning towards retiring. It really comes as no surprise, but it still stings hearing him confirm that he has all but announced his retirement.

    I’ll dive into it a bit deeper.. without the Yankees solving their SP hole (you can argue holes) and picking up a big bat, as a replacement to Damon/Matsui (Yes, we need to replace them still, see below) I just don’t see him coming back. I really think it would be great if he did for one last year.. who knows maybe he will?

    Matsui/Damon:

    I’m not trying to start a war here, but I do want to point out that we still have not replaced their bats and as a result, there were many moments last year that they were missed. We hit 50 less HR’s in 2010 (201) compared to 2009 (248?). Let me put it to you like this..

    “Good pitching wins games, HR’s sell tickets”.

    Personally, last year was one of the most boring seasons I have seen in a long time.

    Now that Posada is the full time DH you can say he has replaced Martsui’s bat, but we still need a replacement for Damon.. and I am a little concerned with Hal and his approach.

    Ughhh !

    Sorry for abruptly ending this post like this, but gotta run out. Be back later tonight.

  114. GreenBeret7 November 12th, 2010 at 8:08 pm

    Thanks Tom and Murph. appreciate it all.

  115. GreenBeret7 November 12th, 2010 at 8:09 pm

    Kate, your kind thoughts are most appreciated as are the well wishes.

  116. MTU November 12th, 2010 at 8:13 pm

    GB-

    Oh “great white snark” would you please be kind enough to pass your e-mail address on to Chad so he can give it to me.

    I know it’s risky but I would appreciate you taking the chance.

    By the way, what the hell is a “snarkometer” ?

    Does that measure the bite pressure you can
    place on a troll’s arm or something.

    Have they left you with ANY blood ?

    :)

    :)

  117. murphydog November 12th, 2010 at 8:14 pm

    Numbers may not lie, but they sure can get perverted – GB7

    There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics – Mark Twain/Benjamin Disraeli

    Most fans use statistics the way a drunk uses a lamp post, for support, not illumination – Vin Scully.

  118. pat November 12th, 2010 at 8:14 pm

    GB

    Did you see the Yankees aren’t sending Montero to play Winter Ball in Venezuela?

    Call Mrs. Pena and tell her set another place at the table for the next couple of months. :wink:

  119. Yankee Trader November 12th, 2010 at 8:15 pm

    GB7-

    I too want to wish you an A+ health report card, and want to thank you for your service to our country. Speaking of nurse Karloff- can you give me a visual??

    Harold Reynolds thinks Cano is the best 2nd baseman since Roberto Alomar.

  120. GreenBeret7 November 12th, 2010 at 8:17 pm

    Laird has been slumping a bit lately in AFL but still producing runs. As of yesterday he was #5 in RBI, just 5 off of the lead. More importantly, he only has 1 error in left and today picked up his 6th outfield assist.

  121. Pat M. November 12th, 2010 at 8:18 pm

    GB…Did you receive my e-mail last night ????

  122. upstate kate November 12th, 2010 at 8:21 pm

    Harold Reynolds is all right w/ me…he loves Robbie and he loves Jeet

  123. Betsy November 12th, 2010 at 8:21 pm

    I still say it’s too early to determine whether Andy is THAT serious or not……….it’s only been a few weeks and he’s enjoying time with his family. Naturally he’s going to feel inclined to retire at this time.

  124. GreenBeret7 November 12th, 2010 at 8:22 pm

    pat November 12th, 2010 at 8:14 pm
    GB

    Did you see the Yankees aren’t sending Montero to play Winter Ball in Venezuela?

    Call Mrs. Pena and tell her set another place at the table for the next couple of months.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    pat, I hadn’t seen that. Thanks for the info. Any reason for the change or is what you’re saying is that Montero is spending the winter sleeping on the Pena sofa?

    If the Penas aren’t careful, they’ll have a new son-in-law for that knockout daughter of theirs.

  125. TR10 November 12th, 2010 at 8:22 pm

    GB and to all veterans and men & women serving our country, thanks. It’s never too late or too early to say thank you to our military.

  126. GreenBeret7 November 12th, 2010 at 8:25 pm

    MTU, I feel like Bela Lugosi has been hanging around getting free samples.

    For some reason, I can’t get an e-mail to him about half the time. I’ll send one off to him and sam this evening.

  127. pat November 12th, 2010 at 8:27 pm

    GB

    Thunder beat writer said he called Newman when he heard Montero was in the starter competition and he e-mailed back the decision was made for him not to play.

    Noris guessed they pulled him so he wouldn’t have any burn out coming into camp.

    A month in the DR and a joining K. Long boot camp in Miami is what we had discussed he should do earlier this week and even moreso now IMO.

  128. Yankee Trader November 12th, 2010 at 8:30 pm

    pat-

    The entire starting offensive team, save Cano, could use some Kevin Long love this offseason.

  129. MTU November 12th, 2010 at 8:30 pm

    GB-

    Thanks.

    I bet your more than glad the tests are over.

    I’m working on sending the Vets something.

    I told my wife about filling the box with Carmel popcorn as packing material, and she just cracked up when I told it doesn’t matter if it’s stale when it arrives. That they’d eat it anyway.

    Hilarious.

    :)

    :)

  130. tyanksfan36 November 12th, 2010 at 8:32 pm

    Kate

    I gave my baseball to the woman going up to Georgia who is going to try to get it signed by Buster. She said his dad doesnt want too much fanfare and wants it to be a lowkey holiday. She said she is going to give it to her brother and hope for the best. Ill be crossing my fingers the whole week of Thanksgiving and the week after hoping that it got done afterall.

  131. pat November 12th, 2010 at 8:35 pm

    Yankee Trader

    I think that’s the plan. Swisher, Tex, Alex, Robbie and Jorge all participated last winter.

    I read somewhere that Jeter and Granderson were planning on it this year.

  132. upstate kate November 12th, 2010 at 8:36 pm

    good luck w/ that tyanksfan…too bad you couldn’t have gotten it before the WS, I am sure he gets even more attention now.

  133. tyanksfan36 November 12th, 2010 at 8:39 pm

    GB7

    They were talking about Brett Marshall on the RAB chat today. Getting me excited for this upcoming season of minor league baseball. I have an extremely busy school schedule next semester but I am going to try as hard as I can to get to every home game and possibly when they play away in dunedin and clearwater. In non-Yankee minor league action, I am going for a weekend with a friend to see the nationals in ST and we might get to see Bryce Harper when their minor leaguers work out the next day.

    As for Andy, his son is adorable. I would have trouble leaving him at home for 9 months too! I think it is right by the Yankees to let him take as long as he needs to come back. I really hope he decides to but I can see why he would want to stay home.

  134. tyanksfan36 November 12th, 2010 at 8:48 pm

    Kate

    Well as long as his parents live there and her parents live there then I will have the opportunity to get it signed. We were talking about it months ago when he first came up, of course his team would go on and win the WS just to make it harder for me. she asked if I want it personalized “to the lovely_____, Love Buster” haha

  135. upstate kate November 12th, 2010 at 8:52 pm

    tyanks
    sounds like sooner or later you will get it then…also sounds like you could get quite a few future mlb players

  136. Rich in NJ November 12th, 2010 at 8:53 pm

    There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics – Mark Twain/Benjamin Disraeli

    Most fans use statistics the way a drunk uses a lamp post, for support, not illumination – Vin Scully.
    __

    Facts (and stats are facts) are more enlightening than opinion more often than not – Rich in NJ

  137. TR10 November 12th, 2010 at 8:55 pm

    vanessa gallotti November 12th, 2010 at 8:28 pm
    I will pass along the e-mail address of MTU if you would like, or for that matter, the e-mail address of any poster on this great blog

    ——————————————–

    Bring it, pal.

  138. Tom in N.J. November 12th, 2010 at 8:58 pm

    Facts can obscure the truth-I forget who siad it.

  139. BJK November 12th, 2010 at 8:58 pm

    Lost November 12th, 2010 at 8:07 pm

    Matsui/Damon:

    I’m not trying to start a war here, but I do want to point out that we still have not replaced their bats and as a result, there were many moments last year that they were missed. We hit 50 less HR’s in 2010 (201) compared to 2009 (248?). Let me put it to you like this..

    “Good pitching wins games, HR’s sell tickets”.

    Personally, last year was one of the most boring seasons I have seen in a long time.

    Now that Posada is the full time DH you can say he has replaced Martsui’s bat, but we still need a replacement for Damon.. and I am a little concerned with Hal and his approach

    —————————————————————————————————-

    I thought Granderson was Damon’s replacement?

    Johnson was supposed to be Matsui’s and that’s why that bat felt so absent.

  140. CompassRosy November 12th, 2010 at 9:03 pm

    GreenBeret7 November 12th, 2010 at 8:17 pm
    Laird has been slumping a bit lately in AFL but still producing runs. As of yesterday he was #5 in RBI, just 5 off of the lead. More importantly, he only has 1 error in left and today picked up his 6th outfield assist.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Hey GB ~
    where did you find fielding stats for AFL? I only see batting and pitching….
    (or are you just going by individual boxscores?)

    Dustin Ackley is killing the AFL right now (tied with Laird in RBI – and 1st in a LOT of major offensive categories). He only had a so-so season in AA-AAA last year, so ‘t will be interesting to see if he makes the cut out of ST….

  141. Rich in NJ November 12th, 2010 at 9:04 pm

    “Facts can obscure the truth-I forget who siad it.”

    Probably a reporter.

  142. tyanksfan36 November 12th, 2010 at 9:13 pm

    The thing about statistics is that you can skew them to portray information any way you want.

  143. Rich in NJ November 12th, 2010 at 9:18 pm

    “The thing about statistics is that you can skew them to portray information any way you want.”

    But that can be demonstrated because stats are testable and verifiable, unlike opinion. That’s why this anti-stat stuff is really kind of a red herring.

  144. GreenBeret7 November 12th, 2010 at 9:23 pm

    Love those quotes, Murph. I’m just not a believer in magic formulas designed by somebody that sells them and then changes ‘em for more sales of fantasy books.

  145. GreenBeret7 November 12th, 2010 at 9:25 pm

    Rosy, there aren’t any fielding stats unfortunately. If I lose track, I go back and count ‘em up.

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