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So what did I miss?

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Nov 15, 2010 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Andy Pettitte said he’s leaning toward retirement
My guess is that a few weeks after the season isn’t the best time to ask Pettitte’s thoughts on retirement. He just got home. He’s regularly seeing the family for the first time in months. He just finished the grind of 162 games, and those games were split by an injury. The better test will be mid to late December.

Brian Cashman flew to Arkansas to begin the Cliff Lee pursuit
Obviously. No sense wasting any time. Everyone knows the deal here. The Yankees need a front-line starter, and there’s only one on the free agent market. Cashman would rather not part with the prospects it would take to trade for a Lee-type starter, so the Yankees will give chase. This Cashman trip was a no-brainer. He was actually pretty close to my home town. We should have invited him to the wedding.

Cashman met with Derek Jeter
The sooner this deal gets done, the better. As long as Jeter is unemployed, this will remain a never-ending topic of discussion.

Cashman said none of the Yankees young catchers will be handed a job
Goes without saying. Even so, it’s pretty cool to hear Cashman being asked regularly about the top prospects in the Yankees minor league system. It’s fun to talk about potential, but at some point a team has to take the leap and give the kids a chance.

Jeter won a Gold Glove
I don’t think Jeter is the best defensive shortstop in the league, but I don’t think he’s as bad as people make him out to be. Managers like the guys who make every play and limit mistakes. Jeter does that. He’s still pretty good at turning the double play, and I don’t remember a game in which I thought Jeter’s range cost the Yankees a win. Did he deserve the Gold Glove? Probably not. But the Gold Glove has always been a strange award, and everyone knows it. Calling him the best defensive shortstop in the league is too much praise, just like the resulting backlash probably went too far the other direction.

David DeJesus was traded
This deal happened not long after I got home, and I was thrilled by the timing. I can’t imagine how many emails Sam got in the hours and days after the trade was announced. DeJesus is a nice player, and for whatever reason he’s always been a favorite fantasy trade target within the Yankees fan base. The Yankees don’t need an outfielder right now, but I’m sure there was considerable disappointment to see him traded to the other coast.

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182 Responses to “So what did I miss?”

  1. blake November 15th, 2010 at 12:19 pm

    Welcome back Chad. Good post….agree on all counts.

  2. upstate kate November 15th, 2010 at 12:24 pm

    Yeah, that about sums it up Chad…altho I would add that 3 of the Yankee IF got Gold Gloves, even tho all we hear about is questions about Jeet.

  3. West Coast Yankee Fan November 15th, 2010 at 12:24 pm

    Welcome back Chad, good summary above.

    I do hope Pettitte let’s Cashman know his plans sooner than mid to late December. Knowing whether or not you are going to have your number two or three starter is not inconsequential.

  4. West Coast Yankee Fan November 15th, 2010 at 12:27 pm

    For those who are interested here is the link to a fascinating article on Willie Mays.

    http://www.laprogressive.com/r.....ys-giants/

  5. Erin November 15th, 2010 at 12:31 pm

    The sooner this deal gets done, the better. As long as Jeter is unemployed, this will remain a never-ending topic of discussion.

    ************************
    Totally agree. I want Jeter signed ASAP!!

  6. Patrick from CT November 15th, 2010 at 12:31 pm

    Pettitte, Posada, and Mo should all ride off into the sunset after this coming season.
    Go for it one more time guys!
    As a minimum, Pettitte should do 1/2 a season and be ready for the playoffs.

  7. JM November 15th, 2010 at 12:32 pm

    From the previous thread:

    MTU,

    Yes, Dylan was really in great form last night. I really loved “Not Dark Yet,” just sounded tremendous. Bruce Springsteen was there checking out the show as well.

    Now, back to the Yankees……

    I hope Andy decides to come back. I agree December is usually a better time to ask him; still at this point I would not be surprised if he does not return. Just sad. :(

  8. Rich in NJ November 15th, 2010 at 1:01 pm

    “I don’t remember a game in which I thought Jeter’s range cost the Yankees a win. ”

    It’s pretty hard to recall missing a ball, for example, up the middle in the 4th inning,
    and then correlating it to a loss.

    If Jeter is willing to accept a reasonable deal (one that reflects his performance in two out of the last three seasons), I would guess that it can be done very, very quickly.

  9. upstate kate November 15th, 2010 at 1:01 pm

    nice article WCYF, thanks

  10. DaSaint007 November 15th, 2010 at 1:07 pm

    Good summary.

    The Jeter and Mo deals need to be done before Thanksgiving.
    Pettitte needs to have an answer by then too, as the offseason timetable is a little different this year, but he’ll probably go unitl early December.

    If I were Cashman, I’d sign or trade for a starting pitcher regardless of Pettitte’s decision to try to keep Lee’s price down. That said, De La Rosa’s representatives, if they’re smart, will wait to see what happens with Lee and Pettitte, as he becomes even more valuable after they sign.

  11. Giuseppe Franco November 15th, 2010 at 1:09 pm

    # Rich in NJ November 15th, 2010 at 1:01 pm

    If Jeter is willing to accept a reasonable deal (one that reflects his performance in two out of the last three seasons), I would guess that it can be done very, very quickly.

    ——–

    That might be the case if you were the GM or owner, but you’re not, which is why the negotiations are going to go a whole lot smoother than some of you guys think.

  12. Erin November 15th, 2010 at 1:09 pm

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  13. Dee November 15th, 2010 at 1:11 pm

    I have to say, I’m a bit apprehensive about De La Rosa in the AL East. Seems like another Javy Vasquez to me. I wonder what viable pitchers are available via trade if Pettitte does actually decide to retire. And I’m not talking Johnson, Verlander, Greinke King Felix types…which seem like pipe dreams.

  14. West Coast Yankee Fan November 15th, 2010 at 1:16 pm

    The following quote is an excerpt from an RAB article on Waldman and Sterling. I think it’s thought provoking in relation to signing Jeter, Mo, Lee as well as other personnel decisions going forward. Who is Hal Steinbrenner really. I don’t think Yankee fans really know but we are soon going to find out.

    “How this is eventually resolved though will be an indicator of how things have changed business-wise for the Yanks after the passing of King George. Hal’s approach could be much, much different”.

  15. Rich in NJ November 15th, 2010 at 1:30 pm

    Giuseppe Franco

    That might be the case if you were the GM or owner, but you’re not, which is why the negotiations are going to go a whole lot smoother than some of you guys think.
    __

    If they want to negotiate as shrewdly as they did with A-Rod, I guess you’re probably right.

  16. Nick in SF November 15th, 2010 at 1:33 pm

    And these visions of DeJesus that conquered my mind…

  17. Giuseppe Franco November 15th, 2010 at 1:37 pm

    # Rich in NJ November 15th, 2010 at 1:30 pm

    If they want to negotiate as shrewdly as they did with A-Rod, I guess you’re probably right.

    ————-

    It’s very easy to be the big tough shrewd negotiator when you’re not the guy being paid to make these decisions and run the team.

  18. DaSaint007 November 15th, 2010 at 1:39 pm

    Read an article yesterday about how none of the teams that made Majo, Big-Name FA signings last year even made it to the playoffs.

    Sobering.

  19. DaSaint007 November 15th, 2010 at 1:40 pm

    Let’s try this again:

    Read an article yesterday about how none of the teams that made Major, Big-Name FA signings last year even made it to the playoffs. Except the Yankees.

    Sobering.

  20. hardwired7 November 15th, 2010 at 1:43 pm

    Jesus Montero in line for starting catcher’s job could be on your list, as well.

    he’ll impact the lineup, for sure, but some are concerned about what Girardi’s nickname might be.

    not ‘Monty’. please, not ‘Monty’.

  21. blake November 15th, 2010 at 1:45 pm

    Jesusy monteroy

  22. upstate kate November 15th, 2010 at 1:53 pm

    sorry, I think it will be “Monty”
    what about his HR call?

  23. Betsy November 15th, 2010 at 1:55 pm

    Why would the Sox trade Buchholz? They won’t – #1 types come along pretty rarely, more often than very good/great 1B.

    I can’t work up much enthusiasm for the GM Meetings. There’s only one goal for the Yankees and we won’t know how that works out for a month or so.

  24. Tom in N.J. November 15th, 2010 at 1:55 pm

    Jesus has gone Full Monty?

  25. Betsy November 15th, 2010 at 1:55 pm

    I wish we’d hire a pitching coach already………I guess the Yankees weren’t too enamored of Gil Patterson.

  26. Mell November 15th, 2010 at 2:00 pm

    “Read an article yesterday about how none of the teams that made Majo, Big-Name FA signings last year even made it to the playoffs. Except the Yankees”

    Yankees didn’t make any big name FA signings themselves last year, did they? Unless you count Pettitte.

  27. hardwired7 November 15th, 2010 at 2:02 pm

    do you think John could get away with:

    “A biblical shot by Jesus”?

    probably not…

  28. LGY November 15th, 2010 at 2:02 pm

    “he’ll impact the lineup, for sure, but some are concerned about what Girardi’s nickname might be.”

    ———————————–

    Young Jeezy

  29. upstate kate November 15th, 2010 at 2:02 pm

    I was going to say what about Granderson, but he was a trade.

  30. Yankee Trader November 15th, 2010 at 2:04 pm

    Taking a guess at soon to be announced ROY:

    NL: 1.Posey, 2.Heyward then Garcia

    AL: 1.Feliz, 2.Jackson, then Davis

    Anyone know what were AJ’s stats while being coached by Mike Harkey, who claims he knows what to do to fix him.

  31. LGY November 15th, 2010 at 2:06 pm

    “I wish we’d hire a pitching coach already………I guess the Yankees weren’t too enamored of Gil Patterson.”

    ———————–

    The Yankees didn’t hire Joe Girardi until 9 days after they interviewed him in 2007.

  32. Rich in NJ November 15th, 2010 at 2:07 pm

    Giuseppe Franco

    It’s very easy to be the big tough shrewd negotiator when you’re not the guy being paid to make these decisions and run the team.
    ___

    It’s easy to inherit tons of money too.

  33. West Coast Yankee Fan November 15th, 2010 at 2:13 pm

    Posey and Feliz ROY

  34. Niblick November 15th, 2010 at 4:24 pm

    With all respect, I think I must disagree with Chad’s statement that Jeter makes every play. He doesn’t. His range is very limited. He makes the plays on balls that he gets to; he doesn’t make stupid mental mistakes, and his physical mistakes are few. But he certainly doesn’t make all the plays he could have if he had average, or better than average, range.

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