Yankees still checking on left-handers
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Nov 20, 2010 
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Add J.C. Romero to the list of potential Yankees bullpen targets. Jon Paul Morosi has reported that the Yankees have shown some interest in the veteran lefty. We’ve previously heard Pedro Feliciano’s name connected to the Yankees, and Scott Downs is looming as arguably the top left-handed reliever on the market.
My guess is this: Every unsigned lefty who has shown an ability to get left-handers out at the big league level will be on the Yankees radar.
That doesn’t mean the Yankees will get aggressive in their pursuit, but Brian Cashman wants a second lefty alongside Boone Logan. Damaso Marte is essentially lost for the year, and Steve Garrison — that’s a real person, I swear — is a complete unknown.
The Yankees are probably going to check on every available lefty to gauge the market and determine value. Depending on the cost, Romero might not be a bad option. He’s not flashy, but last year he held lefties to a .217/.323/.277 slash line. That’s pretty close to his career line against left-handers (.215/.311/.292).
This role isn’t about being flashy or finding a big name. It’s about getting one or two outs at a time so that the bigger and more versatile arms can be saved for the later innings.
Romero has walked more than he struck out I think.
Pass on him.
Scoot Downs is expensive and I think he is asking for a multi-year deal. I wouldn’t give up the draft pick for him.
Logan came out of nowhere; I hope he can continue to be a reliable arm out of the pen. Yes, we definitely need another LOOGY……..
Sam and Chad – any way to switch out that pic of AJ Burnett’s grimace that’s growing out of your heads on the right there? Maybe a sweet Cano swing?
The real shame is that Wilken De La Rosa had such a down year last year and the injuries torpedoed his last couple of seasons. He still might become a pretty good option as a lefty in the pen, but, somebody is taking him. Really nice fastball and a Bugs Bunny Change-up. the probable mistake was making him a starter so soon after converting him from the outfield.
http://www.baseball-reference......laro001wil
I can only cringe when I read that ” it’s just my opinion”…Well at what point does an opinion become a respected opinion ?? Maybe when that opinion is based on some form of factual information along with a degree of experience which leads one to make an informative conclusion ???/ I once had an International Relations Professor who responded to the lame comment that it’s my opinion, with it’s my opinion than that you’re going to flunk this course…And I’ll explain how I derived to this opinion….The bottom line is, as the old expression states, opinions are like ( fill in the blanks ), however one needs to explain to some degree how you came to form this opinion………An illustration would be, why one doesn’t feel Mark Texeria is a future HOF or why Mark Texeria is a furture HOF’er……It’s become the norm here as of late to just make a comment and then defend it by saying that it’s just my opinion…..Weak arguement in My Opinon, as I stated why…..
I’m not taking the bait, lol
And he’s still not a HOFer……..
But that’s it for me on Tex………….
GreenBeret7
November 20th, 2010 at 7:15 pm
Hopefully, tomorrow morning will be normal, with the decent posters available. Murph, you need to show up then. Pat and Randy usually pop in around then. Have a great night.
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That was a quick night, 1hr 29 mins.
Babe Ruth was a disappointing ball player.
Just my opinion.
Tex not a HOFer –
shouldn’t that be discussed/determined after his career is over?
You’ve got a guy that so far stacks up with all but the three best 1st basemen in the HOF (Gehrig, Foxx and probably Terry) and can’t/won’t explain that opinion? Hard to understand that any more than declaring Phil Hughes being a disappointment.
Wow, that was really funny, CB…………..Tex and Babe Ruth. Next thing you know we’ll be hearing about Tex and Gehrig. Oh wait, we already did.
Maybe Chad and Sam should put a disclaimer here that unless you share the opinions of the “ruling body”, you shouldn’t bother to post.
Betsy, it was not directed at you, I just used the most recent topic……If my financial advisor kept telling me to invest in such and such and qualified this by strictly telling me that it’s his opinion rather than the comforting in my judgement, I’d be going elsewhere….
Go Yanks, yes, I agree. I don’t think he’s a great player though – very good (but wait, that’s apparently not good enough).
Odd- some folks complain about the board not being as good as it was, for various reasons. It’s not just that people are leaving; in large part it’s because there’s just supposed to be one board opinion and if you disagree, you’d best be prepared to deal with snarky, useless comments
Pat M, I’m not saying you directed it at me, but assuming you read the prior thread, Carl brought up the fact that I don’t think Tex is a HOFer………or a great player. I personally explained why I don’t think he’s a great player, but there’s really no point in going into that again.
Also Pat, opinions do not have to be proven as they are not facts……..
I never said a thing about him being equal to Ruth. He’s a 1st baseman. That’s who I’m comparing him to. First basemen and only the first 8 years at that, minus the three that i mentioned.
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GreenBeret7
November 20th, 2010 at 7:04 pm
go visit your Northern California friend’s basement like he invited you to…the ones with his collection of whips and chains. He’s right up your alley
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I will ask that you keep your disparaging, false statements to youself. It is unfortunate that you have to turn almost everything into an argument here.
Are you capable of just having a discussion without the insults and personal attacks onto others ?
Betsy, your opinions are appreciated, as are other diverse pov’s here.
And for ADDED context, you should realize that I happen to disagree with you on both Hughes and Tex.
But I’ve noted that you NEVER couch your opinions in disparaging terms against the Yankees.
Then there are some here who mistake their opinion for being “indisputable facts.” I’ve actually seen that term used here!
What’s the point of having a ‘dialogue’ with that kind of mindset?
Blue is beautiful is an pure opinion.
Chocolate is delicious is an pure opinion.
Most statements about baseball are subjective in nature to varying degrees but they are not simply opinions. They should have some foundation in something other than personal tastes. Otherwise the there’s nothing to discuss at all. It’s simply people just letting others in on their internal mental worlds.
Babe Ruth was a dissappointing ball player is not as valid a statement as saying Babe Ruth was the greatest player in the game’s history. Those two statements are not equivalent “opinions.
What makes discussing baseball interesting is sharing what one knows or what one has observed. If everything were opinion and all opinions are equally valid without any substantiating evidence then there’s really no discussions possible. All we would have is a series to monologues. That unfortunately is what talk sports talk radio quickly became.
Opinions ought to be supported, though.
And for the record, there are a lot of different reasons people are leaving, have left, or spend a lot less time on this blog, and it’s not because of differences of opinion which have existed here since day one. What didn’t exist way back when is total usurpation of a thread with back and forth bickering with less substance than snark.
Anywhere in the world, if you hold a minority opinion, it is, perhaps unfairly, but it is nonetheless expected that you’ll have very strong support for that opinion.
And it would help if opinions on either side were stated as opinions and not as absolute statements.
Betsy,
You say Tex is good, not great – OK. But his career is not over, if he strings together a couple of great years and adds a few more rings (Go Yanks) he will receive consideration.
Not sure argument should be about if he is HOF or not, but if he is a good or great 1B;
agree that he is not great yet, but he is definitely better than good. I am glad he is our 1B and think he is one of the top 1Bs in the game.
MP, your last line cuts to the heart of it.
“opinions do not have to be proven as they are not facts……..”
Opinions do not have to be proven? That’s a pretty thin defense of the opinion, IMO.
Pat Moynihan said that you are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to your own facts. In other words, opinions, to be worth any serious consideration, must be based on facts. You should be able to prove those foundational facts, if challenged, and demonstrate how strongly they support your opinion and exclude other interpretations. So, proof is not so far removed from opinion after all.
Notre Dame is all over Army in this game. This is a bit of an upset, though Notre Dame has lost 3 of their 5 defeats by 4 or less points. Navy, shockingly hammered them. No surprise that Stanford did also.
Apparently a freshman got Jeter’s locker.
I’m checking in to the blog to participate in a weak discussion on rhetoric and epistemology. *sigh* I’m in baseball withdrawal.
In the history of baseball, there has only been ONE switchitting 1st baseman to make the Hall Of Fame ( Eddie Murray )….Now if Texeria continues at his present pace, he will join Eddie Murray…..To me, that is quite impressive ……If not great, then as close as it gets
# Pat M. November 20th, 2010 at 9:41 pm
In the history of baseball, there has only been ONE switchitting 1st baseman to make the Hall Of Fame ( Eddie Murray )….Now if Texeria continues at his present pace, he will join Eddie Murray…..To me, that is quite impressive ……If not great, then as close as it gets
That is great. Tex is a great player.
GB….I took the Irish laying the 8 points in hopes to recapture the dough I blew on The Cal Berkley Bears earlier today….Has anyone seen or heard from Nick In SF ????
Carl, my comment should have included the 500 hr’s…That was the crux to my point
Can someone please, for pete’s sake, start the countdown to pitchers and catchers? Soi that we can at least see some light at the end …
Good analogy with Murray, Pat.
So I’m pretty surprised these “offers” are being leaked by someone regarding the Yankees and Jeter. I really thought both sides would keep it quite and that we wouldn’t hear much about it until it was almost done.
My guess is that the Yankees leaked the offer to put pressure on Jeter, thinking that he will want to avoid looking greedy by declining….
Its way too early to worry about whether Teixera is a HOFer or not, he’s got 8-10 more years of baseball to play….he’s on a good pace though.
Pat, it’s like I mentioned earlier, right now after 8 seasons, about the only HOF 1st basemen outpacing him are Gehrig, Terry and Foxx. I should possibly have added Hank Greenberg, though he had 3 years as an outfielder (lost 4 years to the War) and by all accounts Greenberg and Foxx couldn’t carry Teixeira’s glove. He’s about even with Murry and ahead of Trosky, McCovey and Stargell. Not bad company. I’m guessing that he should have another 5 years of these types of numbers, averaging .285-.290.
Pat M. November 20th, 2010 at 9:44 pm
GB….I took the Irish laying the 8 points in hopes to recapture the dough I blew on The Cal Berkley Bears earlier today….Has anyone seen or heard from Nick In SF ????
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He pops in like a hit and run Georgie Jessel and disappears.
Reading Cad’s post …
I’d MUCH rather see Scott Downs in pinstripes, than Feliciano (how about A LOT of others, than Feliciano?).
But FWIW, I noticed that he got knocked around pretty good last season by the Red Sox and Rays.
Pat M. November 20th, 2010 at 9:44 pm
GB….I took the Irish laying the 8 points in hopes to recapture the dough I blew on The Cal Berkley Bears earlier today….Has anyone seen or heard from Nick In SF ????
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a break even is better than losing your drawers. How did your season baseball on win totals go?
Cad?
How about “Chad”???
GB……I’m certain somewhere between Berkley & San Fran, there is a very wounded Nick after today’s drubbing by the Cardinal…..Maybe he’s still sitting at the BART station shaking his head in disbelief…..
IMO, if you hadn’t bet you wouldn’t have to make up the money on another game.
Can’t imagine losing your first pick over a middle reliever or a setup guy. That’s a step price. Maybe a team that’s really close with multiple 1st round picks perhaps can that that hit.
***steep price***
GB……I hit 21 over / under picks and all 5 of the 100.00 picks…….Giants are paying for my Wedding Anniversary trip to San Francisco next week….Surprising my wife with a Junior Suite at The Parc 55…..
GB, is that whatwould happen with Downs?
Pat, I usually don’t even watch football anymore, other than ND. just can’t get it going anymore. same with basketball.
Pat, nice! Enjoy it, man!
Downs is going to cost somebody a 1st round pick, unless it’s a protected pick (15 worst records)
Sounds great, Pat. Make sure to visit Lefty’s bar. great picks everywhere.
argggg..pix
GB….I agree, Too high a price for Scott Downs……On both ends
I submitted you my choices. just out of curiosity, I wonder what I picked. Should have kept track.
At age 35 and the money he will want, I’m not sure I’d pay a 2nd round pick. supposedly, it’s going to be a top draft next June.
GB, do you know if Feliciano would cost a pick?
I’m hoping against hope that De La Rosa squeezes through the Rule 5 but not counting on it. I think if healthy, he could still be a good bullpen lefty.
GB, Besides the Yanks ( over ) Boston ( under) the other team that I remember you picking was Texas ( over ) & Atlanta ( under )…….The one pick that I had to sweat out however was CB’s pick on Houston under 77 wins….They played well down the stretch and finished up with 76 wins….That was a 100.00 dollar pick….
Feliciano is a free selection….nothing but money
I guess CB’s more than just a studious bookworm that he pretends to be, huh?
I enjoy reading most of CB’s works, but, he’s deep into math and that’s not my strong suit…like typing. My math was confined to using books to figure out bomb craters and artillery targets.
There are times when I request an interpreter for some of the statistical data that CB provides……..
Pat, how many points do you have Southern Cal beating ND by? As close as the records will be, I think that could get ugly.
CB comes up with great information, when I can figure it out. I feel at times that I’m trying to crack the JN25 codes. Still a lot of interesting things that he has to say. Not sure how you and he can bite your tongues in here at times. I can’t do it.
gb….I can see USC openning up as an easy 7 point favorite…If not more
Damned…Joe Montana’s kid is big for a QB at 6’4. Certainly bigger than the old man.
I’m figuring that unless 25 Trojans break their legs on the first three plays, ND is in deep trouble like -21?
Impressive win by ND tonight
Don’t know if this was reported previuosly (Out shoveling snow all day), but the idea that Mo would like a 2 year makes me smile. How about 4, Mo, with a team option for 2 more?
“According to SI.com’s Jon Heyman, free agent Mariano Rivera has told friends that he would like a two-year deal from the Yankees.
The Yanks have not yet begun negotiations, but they are probably going to give Mo whatever he wants. The 40-year-old closer posted an incredible 1.80 ERA and 0.83 WHIP this past season for the Yankees, saving 33 of 38 opportunities.”
Did anybody see the great Bob Costas interview last night with Rod Carew & Tony Gwynn ??? Besides the great insight, some of the stories were just funny as hell…..Bob Costas is the best in the business when it comes to baseball interviews, as players gravitate to him……Unless of course you’re Barry Bonds
GB,
“My math was confined to using books to figure out bomb craters..”
Forensics on incoming?
Joe Montana is 6′ 2″, a whole two inch difference.
Notre Dame needs Dave Casper’s kid to hook up with Montana’s next year.
ah, the days of Hanratty to Seymour and Huart to Snow.
And from the Boston Globe,
“Jonathan Papelbon is likely to request an $11.5 million salary this offseason during the salary arbitration process.
It’s not all that surprising given the $9.35 million that he earned in 2010. The Red Sox are expected to shop Papelbon this winter, but the trade market will be thin for a 30-year-old that registered a 3.90 ERA and 1.27 WHIP over 67 innings in 2010. It would make sense for the Red Sox to simply non-tender the righty, but all signs point to them paying up and retaining him.”
Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t Pappy all set to join the rotation one year, then ‘volunteered” (or agreed) to return to the bullpen when the beaneaters couldn’t find another closer? Can’t recall the exact details.
Interesting rumor at least. Can’t see it happening, but, thoughts are about Detroit non-tendering Zumaya because of continued injuries and cost. If that happens, will Cashman gamble? Pretty tempting.
Mo:
Mo’s all set, his deal will be a lot easier than Derek Jeters. Why you ask? He is being much more reasonable. There, I said it. Jeter and team are trying to secure as many years and as many bucks as they can, and as I said before that is absolutely the way of business and there is nothing wrong with that. Does that mean he’ll get what he wants? No. However, if Jeter said to the Yankees, “Just give me 2 years and 20 mil” it would’ve been done already. At the end of those 2 years he was still performing as an asset, he would get another contract and it would continue until he was done.
What I am simply saying that Mo’s approach is much more casual and laid back. He’s already saying that he knows he’s getting older and he doesn’t want to retire having agreed to more years than his age/body can handle. That to me is a pure class act.
Jeter’s taking more of the business approach to it and the Yankees are doing exactly what they should be as a result. Treating his deal as such.
Again, I want to be clear. I don’t fault him for it, but I see that as the stumbling block.
Edit: 2 years and 20 mil per season.
Lost-
Hearing anything on Lee ?
Guess not.
Have a good night.
Well, I explained why I didn’t think Tex was a great player – apparently the explanation wasn’t good enough. So be it.
Hardly compelling and certainly not very persuasive Betsy…..Early season struggles is a weak argument…….I wish Randy Levine would go on vacation during the contract talks, I just have a bad feeling about that hump……..Wish m would return, evenings are just dead since she left….
Pat M, I’m not trying to change anyones mind, so whether it’s compelling or not to anyone doesn’t mean anything to me. You also misread my post. Getting off to slow starts ok, but his slow starts are not just slow, they are awful. We needed him when Alex wasn’t here ……….didn’t show. Last April he was worse and except for maybe the first week or so in May, Tex didn’t show either. He disappears for long stretches. Imy saying he’s a very good player isn’t sufficient, then so be it. It’s sufficient for me. This is one of those instances where it’s better to just drop the subject as we are never going to agree. Whether it’s Tex or Phil or any other subject, if it’s clear I’m not in agreement with the majority, I’m just going to bow out of extended discussions
Randy Levine is what he is – and that is a corporate employee. Hal Steinbrenner and his dour, scowling face is I fear the problem. I had a bad feeling about the guy when I saw him on the podium at City Hall after the 2009 parade. He was the only unhappy looking guy up there.
I hope I am wrong about him. We’ll soon find out.
WCYF…….I’ve never liked the guy, however when he made the trip with Cashman & Hal to visit Derek it left me with an uncomfortable chill…..He had George’s ear and it seems that maybe true with Hal as well……He’s certainly not a guy who wants to be in the background but rather to be seen and heard……..Joe Torre dispised him and din’t trust himas far as he could spit……..
All good points, especially about Torre. Levine had a lot to do with Torre being treated the way he was. He was, is, never will be a baseball guy.
Time to call it a night…..
Night.
randy l. emerged from hybernation to complain:
“with a google search i haven’t come up with anything where he talks about keeping pitchers healthy. maybe it’s out there and i haven’t found it yet.
if i was a yankee gm, the first thing i’d look for in a pitching coach is someone who could keep a pitcher healthy because most likely the better pitchers on the yankees are going to be pitchers who already knows how to pitch like sabathia or lee. keeping them healthy has to be the most important thing.
i don’t see a record of rothschild keeping star pitchers healthy.”
What is this gibberish??? Does Long have a public philosophy on how to keep the batters healthy? Did don Zimmer have one on how to keep the bench players healthy?
Is Rothschild the new pitching coach or the new trainer/conditioner???
Is there lots of google-able info on other pitching coaches’ philosophies on keeping pitchers healthy?
Other than that, good to see you posting, randy.
IMO, the issue isn’t about Rothschild, it’s that Rick Peterson wasn’t chosen as pitching coach.
What is this gibberish??? Does Long have a public philosophy on how to keep the batters healthy? Did don Zimmer have one on how to keep the bench players healthy?
lmao
Keeping young pitchers healthy is an organizational decision.
Hopefully the Yankees will learn from Joba and Hughes and allow Guys like Betances and Brackman to get 160-170 innings in the minors before they get called up.
Jeter’s in for a shock if he’s not being realistic. The team is being realistic. They were unrealistic with Arod. That will never happen again.
Leyritz sprinkled with Roberts yesterday.
Now that’s a cheery combo if ever there was one.
2 pillars of Human virtue.
If I never hear another word about either it will be way too soon.
Bret-
IMHO, If the Yankees decide to play hardball with Jeter then they picked the wrong guy to try and set an example of their new found fiscal religion with.
I don’t ever want to see the Yankees even remotely resemble the Suxers in the way they treat their players.
And Jeter is an Icon and a living legend. The Yankees should not ever treat him like a number in some beancounters ledger.
If they do I think they’ll regret that more than overpaying him a bit.
That’s just my 2 cents.
One other thing I can’t understand is, why do so many people seem to put it all on Jeter ?
Like he’s the one who is letting the team down and has to sacrifice for the good of the team.
Ask your self this ? Who’s richer, Jeter or the Yankees ?
Who really has the greater power to make this work ?
I know what my answer is.
MTU,
I agree, they should’ve set the example with Arod or going back even further, Randy Johnson when he demanded a 3 year extension when he was already 40.
The Yankees have suffered with more than enough of their fair share of overpaid players who grab more years than their bodies can handle.
Good morning, morning people.
MTU -
Exactly – you don’t do this with your franchise player. It was fine with Damon last season. I didn’t like what happened to Bernie Williams, but even he was not in the same tier as Derek Jeter. I’m not saying there should be a blank check to Jeter at all. Just – maybe it’s because it’s taking more time than we’re all comfortable with, maybe it’s because the executioner (Randy Levine) has spoken publicly on it (though his exact words were not inherently incorrect and not hearing them, it’s impossible to say the feelings behind the words), I have an uneasy feeling about all this.
But I am also trying to keep in mind that when there is no hard story, the media will offer conjecture and it gets mistaken for fact.
I still have my fingers crossed a deal will be worked out in due time. Actually, Hal Steinbrenner’s words the other day – the will continue to work on this and to talk for however long it takes, and that there is good relationship on both sides and mutual respect – are what I’m counting on.
Bret-
2 questions:
How’s it goin’ with that gal you seemed so enamoured of ?
How’s your niece ?
THESE are important questions. Not how many pennies the Yanks can pinch.
MP-
I remain an optimist unless reality forces me to change my POV.
Bret -
Ahh, the ARod opt-out. I’m sure many people would like a redo on those negotiations. I think most are (or were) okay that ARod stayed, but wish it worked out differently.
I don’t discount the idea that Jeter can bounce back and have a credible last 4 years to his career – and be better than most at his position for that time period.
I do worry, if Jeter walks away or if the Yankees close the door, who will play SS that will be better right now?
And I’m okay with carrying a fading Jeter for a year or two.
And I realize that with this topic, I’m all over the map. It is part an emotional topic, and part a matter of practicality.
Ultimately, though, this is Derek Jeter and I don’t him to ever play anywhere else.
MP-
I not gonna worry about Jeter.
The next headlines I wish to see are:
“Yankees get their Man. Ink Lee to 5 year pact.”
“AP forgoes walk into Sunset to return for one more year”.
These would make me very, very happy because I know our rotation
will be secure.
edit: “I’m”. duh. Case of the GB’s early in the morn.
**I don’t WANT Jeter to play anywhere else.
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Off to see American Idiot today. Long, long day ahead.
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Did anyone check out the football game at YS last night? Stadium looked great.
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I thought it was very weird that they had that footbal game at Wrigley, and could only have forward motion in one direction. Why do it????
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I’m getting very tired of watching “Everybody Loves Raymond” reruns in syndication. It’s not good for my blood pressure – one of the most annoying families on television. And yet, I liked it when it was on once a week.
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Not ready for all the Christmas music just yet. Nor the Santas in the malls. Talk about rushing the season! Please, let me clean up my turkey dinner first!!!!!
Seems like the Early birds are sleepin’ in this Sunday.
Can’t say as I blame them.
MorningPerson November 21st, 2010 at 7:35 am
But I am also trying to keep in mind that when there is no hard story, the media will offer conjecture and it gets mistaken for fact.
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The media offers conjecture, and some of us here run with it.
The selection of Rothschild as PC is a case in point. At times here, sports writers and columnists are offered as VALID AUTHORITIES on a given pov, and it becomes a jumping off point for the blog discussion. The naming of Rothschild is clear evidence of how disconnected the mediots often are, especially with the Yankees.
I agree, Jeter’s situation is not totally comparable to Damon’s last winter, except for this … Damon received a Yankees offer that was (as it turned out) above and beyond fair market value. Jeter will also receive a contract offer that is above and beyond fair market value (even more so than Damon’s offer).
Jeter will sign. He’s not going anywhere. Doesn’t matter how much or how often the mediots, especially Red Sox Nation (aka espn.com), beats the drums to get our attention about non-stories.
Everything else is much ado about nothing.
Bold predictions:
Grandy will be good for 35 dingers next season.
Joba and AJ will be positive surprises.
Hughes will win 20.
Montero will surprise with his defense.
Lee and CC will also win 20.
GGBG will be even better than last year. He will bunt for more hits and steal more bases.
Should I go on ?
Aldo-
“127 hours” is out in select NYC theaters.
Haven’t had a chance to read a review yet.
One thing I can tell you from watching the trailer is that the scene where the hikers just drop into the pool below would never, ever happen in real life. At least not intentionally. That’s suicide w/o knowing the depth of the pool. And you would never be able to know
it beforehand in that place.
That’s Hollywood.
Why does this always come back to Rodriguez. He didn’t force any hands, and the Yankees knew the probability was there to opt-out when they acquired him in 2004. That opt-out wasn’t found in the back of a drawer somewhere. Would he have used it no matter what? Who knows, but, face facts. Rodriguez, for all that he had done in those 4 years was treated like dirt in the media, from the so-called fans and even from part of the management.
Any thing that went wrong, any failures, he took the majority of the heat. He took the heat in the 2004 PS. Perhaps some should check his numbers and those of the other “stars”. In the first place, NYYs probably had no right to be in that PS with that rotation . Perhaps he didn’t think that NYYs would pay that freight, and it was a way away from the jackasses.
I don’t think Christmas music should be played until Christmas Eve day.. I hate when right after Thanksgiving it starts. Very annoying
a way ****to get*** away from the jackasses
GB-
“Guten tag” (no wisecracks).
So don’t listen or wear earplugs.
“Oh, Tish. That’s French. You know what that does to me.”
Oh, wait…you’re not Tish and that ain’t French.
GB-
Sounds like part of an old joke.
“Get your hands off my belly button…..”
Guess you’ve the rest.
edit: “heard the rest”. Brain drain. sorry.
Compliments of Gomez Addams.
These are just a sample of the ‘authorities’ that are offered up here in ofrder to validate a pov …
Keith Law and Rob Neyer, who were once denied admission into the BBWAA for not meeting their criteria FOR ACTUALLY ATTENDING GAMES!!!
Selena Roberts, wo has never retracted her accusation against the INNOCENT players from the Duke lacrosse team (though she apparently had no compunction about writing articles to almost destroyed their lives).
Maybe Washington Nats will screw up and sign Vazquez before the deadline and NYYs get a couple of draft picks.
MTU, thanks for the info. Coincidentally, I was just wondering yesterday about when it would open.
I’m in south Florida. It should be down my way shortly.
GB-
You wouldn’t believe what I’m seein’ out here today.
This funny lookin’ stuff is fallin’ from the sky. Lot’s of it. Not quite sure what it is.
When it hits you it feels like water but we both know it couldn’t possibly be that.
Not out here. It’s a desert.
GB7 -
I wasn’t talking about anything except I’m sure if everyone got a do-over, they might do-over the ARod negotiations differently with regard to specifics. It wasn’t a commentary on ARod as a player.
Also, hindsight is 20/20. At the time, the world looked very different.
Aldo-
You’re welcome. Thought you might want to know.
I fully understand that you are a closet Canyoneer. A thrill seeker extraordinaire.
MTU November 21st, 2010 at 8:24 am
GB-
You wouldn’t believe what I’m seein’ out here today.
This funny lookin’ stuff is fallin’ from the sky. Lot’s of it. Not quite sure what it is.
When it hits you it feels like water but we both know it couldn’t possibly be that.
Not out here. It’s a desert.
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Just make sure that there aren’t Boeing 747′s flying overhead and it’s not yellow rain.
GreenBeret7 November 21st, 2010 at 8:21 am
Maybe Washington Nats will screw up and sign Vazquez before the deadline and NYYs get a couple of draft picks.
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Not if Javy is really asking for 3 years at eight figures, the way someone posted here yesterday (don’t know the source).
GB-
That’s usually the blue stuff.
I don’t think Prinz is playin’ around here either.
MorningPerson November 21st, 2010 at 8:26 am
GB7 -
I wasn’t talking about anything except I’m sure if everyone got a do-over, they might do-over the ARod negotiations differently with regard to specifics. It wasn’t a commentary on ARod as a player.
Also, hindsight is 20/20. At the time, the world looked very different.
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It was aimed at the same person that complains about the contract situation with Jeter and blames Rodriguez for it at least twice a week. Rodriguez has nothing to do with Jeter’s contract.
Or is that Prince ? The guy with scarf and the Purple rain.
Blue ice, yellow rain….I don’t want to get hit by either. There’s a funny story about Jim Bouton, Phil Linz and Pepitone riding on a team bus back around 1961 when they were playing for Amarillo.
GB-
And ? Don’t leave me hangin’ Is it PG enough ?
They were riding all night to another Texas town for a game. Late night, hot and Liz and Bouton had the windows down in the back of the bus, sleeping on racks by the windows. Pepitone is in the middle of the bus when nature calls. Hangs out the window and lets fly. Linz wakes up and starts screaming about yellow rain. Pepitone is already back to sleep.
GB-
I wonder what ever happened to Maine Yankee ?
You don’t think he was seriously injured by one his milking machines
do you ?
Or Erica ?
Did she finally find that one rich Man ? Lose it all in AC ? Fly the coop ?
These are important questions. They beg for answers.
Hard to believe those guys are in their 70s now. Their time in the Bronx seems like yesterday.
Maine was on for a little bit yesterday. I gave him the typical love treatment. Erica said she needed a break for all of you loonies and the trolls.
GB-
I see. Thanks for sharing. Physics can be a bit*h if you happen to be on the wrong end of it.
I thought maybe it had something to do with Pepitone’s hair dryer and the toilet, or something like that.
GB-
All of US loonies.
“I don’t think Christmas music should be played until Christmas Eve day.. I hate when right after Thanksgiving it starts. Very annoying”
there is one christmas song that makes me crazy – ” jingle bell rock”.
when i was 8 years old ,i ended up in early december in the hospital for ten days with a severe concussion. you can’t even lie on your bed without falling off because your balance is thrown off. the ceiling really does spin. sounds are amplified . lights hurt your eyes. you are nauseous at all times – especially when they PLAY THAT DAMN NEW JUST RELEASED CHRISTMAS SONG JINGLE BELL ROCK OVER AND OVER … AND OVER AGAIN ON THE LOUD SPEAKER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pepitone was certainly one of a kind. He was one of Mantle’s favorite targets and Pepitone loved it. He idolized Mantle, even when they were team mates as did Linz.
“Jingle Bell Rock” is just fine. It’s “Jingle Bells” by those stupid Barking Dogs that make me want to shoot Santa Claus.
You know what they say about time.
“I wouldn’t have wasted as much of it if I knew how much of I had wasted when I wasted it.”
It sure doesn’t grow on trees. At least not in this Galaxy.
Where the heck is H.G. Wells when you really need him ?
My favorite Christmas songs are by Kevin Wilson and Bob Rivers, songs like “Frosty The Pervert” and “An Open Letter To Santa” by Don Corleone.
My fave Xmas Music is :
Paul Shanklin’s stuff, or Manheim Steamroller.
Dyn-O-Mite.
Thanksgiving has totally been engulfed by the commercial aspect of Christmas. I love Christmas…but I also love Thanksgiving and get annoyed when it just gets overlooked.
Im not worried about the Jeter situation but as I said last night I do its interesting how public its been…..not that its been that public, but I didn’t think we would hear anything until it was done…..Yanks are trying to take the high ground and put pressure in Jeter…
sportswatch Here is @KenDavidoff with the most grown-up take I’ve seen on Jeter v. NYY http://snipurl.com/1hwbkb
He’s human.
Pinkard And Bowden, “Let’s Put The X Back In Xmas”. A few others that get stuck in the LoHud filters for some reason.
Blake-
Think like a Turkey. They pray every year that Thanksgiving will be overlooked.
Sadly, they give themselves up for the greater good. Food. That is.
And so I and millions of other Americans can feast on left overs for days on end.
“I wonder what ever happened to Maine Yankee ?”
i told him not to to trick or treating as a moose .
LMAO
Randy-
Ouch. That “call” should bring him right into our clutches.
Nice work.
Let’s have no more of that sort of talk, Randy. It’s too early to laugh that hard.
It appears that the Jeter negotiations are moving forward. Hopefully it’s a done deal before the GM meetings in early December. It’s gotten to be a tired subject especially when it’s a given that he’s not going anywhere else.
Mariano will come next then it’s a question of what’s next, Andy’s decision or Lee’s decision.
Randy-
I think this is what you’re referring to :
http://www.bostonherald.com/ne.....ion=recent
Poor Maine.
A retailer who doesn’t like Christmas music?
For most Jingle Bells is their National Anthem and 401K plan rolled into one.
Here we go again ?
Take a look at the title of the next thread.
I’m staying here. Much more fun.
Randy-
Or is it this one ?
http://www.pondkoi.com/moose.htm
randy
What was you doing drinking when you was 8?
Pat,
I guess all that’s true (from the Davidoff article) but from Jeter’s point of view he’s the executive who helped build or revitalize the company…..and now they are asking him to take less than the hot shot (AJ) that they brought in a couple years ago that has done nothing but screw up since he’s been there.
Unless Davidoff has talked to Jeter or.Close then he’s just speculating on how they are reacting…..
Chritmas songs are good for one thing. every time you hear a bell, a troll loses a bridge.
Randy/GB-
he lives ! woo hoo !
They don’t do much for spelling, though.
Maine-
How the heck are you ?
MTU
It was getting to serious here. Lost to many of the ones that just want to enjoy life.
Maine-
Then why not help us out ? Hope Mrs. Maine is well ?
mtu-
see, it wasn’t that hard to find maine yankee .
being born in maine helps me know what buttons to push.
Too many people around here suffer from “Terminal seriousness”.
You’d be doing everyone a favor by helping to lighten the mood.
Randy-
You are my Maine Man !
Hmmmm…Randy – Maine…both show up at the same time again….I wonder…
blake
He did help further the brand and I have no problem with him getting whatever he can both in years and $$$$.
The mythology stuff is what I took from that article because it’s what I’ve believed for a long time and what some people here seem stuck on.
Icon, living legend, Captain, above reproach, always right, etc, etc……….
He’s a baseball player who has played the game at a high level on the field and lived his life without known controversy off it. Now he wants his. He’s human.
Besides, he’s the first one who always says it’s all about the pitching.
randy
I couldn’t help but call you out when you tried to pass off a hangover for a concussion.
did you know ray(rsfan) was from near where your family is up here?
MTU -
Do you own a silver Pontiac?
“Hmmmm…Randy – Maine…both show up at the same time again….I wonder…”
wondering is very close to thinking.
it’s kind of early in the morning for heavy lifting isn’t it?
Al-
OK. I’ll bite. Why ?
Maine, have you heard from Ray? If you do, tell him to get back here where he belongs…that closet yankee fan.
GB7
That’s a big insult.
Randy, just wanted to prove to you guys that I wasn’t just another golfing savant and that I had other skills.
GB7
No I haven’t heard from ray.
I wonder if he got eaten up there in Alaska.
I e-mailed him but haven’t heard back from him.
Dennis is also amongst the missing.
Maybe the ferry got eaten by a whale this summer.
MTU -
I guess you haven’t heard the news out your way. Some body got into it with a park ranger and shot him, leaving behind his silver Pontiac, yeh, I know not funny. I don’t always think that well when sleep deprived.
Maine, I’m shocked and hurt…Whatever do you mean?
maine yankee-
no , i didn’t know that about ray(red sox fan). what ever happened to him? i can’t remember the last time he was on here.
that concussion was definitely the worst hangover i ever had. plus they kept asking me what happened which was a real pain because i couldn’t tell on the kid who dropped the giant ice ball on my head.
I was thinking that Dennis had things to do in Texas, but, maybe mistaken. They are great additions to this place, along with the rest of the missing family, like SJ, Erica, Trisha, Mel, and Doreen.
GB7 -
Remember the “Take Back America” theme leading up to November?
Maybe we need to think about a “Take Back the Blog campaign” this winter.
Al-
Ranger’s would never go where I like to hike the most.
They’re too smart for that.
Actually, I hadn’t heard about it.
Hope the rough seas out your way are continuing to calm ?
Ray was last around in the spring time. He was driving a sight seeing bus in Alaska, I believe.
randy
ray is from Wilton.
From a farm family as well.
I went to a private school on the coast with him.
GB-
Tour bus. Alaska. Uh oh.
You think that maybe he got stuck in a snowdrift in July?
MTU
They don’t want to go where you hike.
Where all the bodies are buried.
Isn’t this blog supposed to be about baseball ?
I demand we talk about baseball !
And get serious. Stop the freakin’ comedy routine.
Maine-
But. But. I was just tryin’ to be kind to the Coyotes. I swear !
GB7
The last I remember Dennis was having some health issues in the family.
I don’t think he has been here much since.
MTU November 21st, 2010 at 9:37 am
Isn’t this blog supposed to be about baseball ?
I demand we talk about baseball !
And get serious. Stop the freakin’ comedy routine.
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Are you familiar with the song leader of the pack?
maine yankee-
if ray is that close we might be related.
is private school a euphemism for reform school ?
he wouldn’t be related to my family if he went to a real private school .
reform school? well, there’d be a chance.
wasn’t aware of the family issues with Dennis. He disappeared about the same time as Ray. Good people..For sox fans, they added much to a Yankee board.
MTU -
I think you need another long hike, too much time inside is getting to you. Yes, things are a little better.
Maine-
I am a Sirius poster. And you know it.
So please cut the crap. My baseabll knowledge could fill a library.
It’s that idiot who is always posting all those freakin’ pictures of the same old tired sh*t that you really want to speak to.
MTU -
If you really want to talk baseball, we could join Pete Abe’s site, and spread a lot of nasty rumors, lol.
MTU -
Just stop it, I knew that poster, and you sir are not in his league.
randy
Well in a sense you might have considered it reform school.
It was a strict Christian H.S.
If you are related I’m sorry for ray.
Al-
Just look what all the “serious” people have done to the World ?
Now THAT’s really comic.
MTU
It doesn’t take long to fill a library if it’s one for ants.
MTU -
“Comic” or just plain Sad.
Got to go, catch you later.
Maine-
Or for Lilliputians like Pedroia.
maine yankee-
all kidding aside,i shouldn’t poke too much fun at farmington ,maine and the towns around it.it’s quite the cool college town now. the only problem is there’s too damn many red sox fans up there.
MTU
Or dustmops.
randy
I spent alot of time there in the late 60s early 70s. My wife went to college there.
I just set my Mercury Comet on auto pilot and let it go.
I’ve been up there several times lately and it has change quite alot.
maine-
It is good to have you back. Even IF you are chock full of insults towards my Angels.
Please try and not be a stranger.
This blog needs it’s share of Dairy Farmers. Strong bones make strong minds.
I was hoping your lovely wife would be able to keep you in line but I can see that was a pipe dream.
MTU
“I was hoping your lovely wife would be able to keep you in line but I can see that was a pipe dream”
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She gave up on that a long time ago. She still hopes but knows it isn’t happening.
Well at least she’s gotten you partially out of the stone age.
She’s a teacher not a miracle worker. Miracles are for places like Lourdes.
MTU November 21st, 2010 at 8:05 am
“127 hours” is out in select NYC theaters.
Haven’t had a chance to read a review yet. One thing I can tell you from watching the trailer is that the scene where the hikers just drop into the pool below would never, ever happen in real life. At least not intentionally. That’s suicide w/o knowing the depth of the pool. And you would never be able to know it beforehand in that place.
That’s Hollywood.
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The purpose of most feature films is not to recreate actual events. That’s what documentaries are for. Artistic and creative license, storytelling, eliciting emotion and feeling, etc., are far more important.