Yankees organizational all-star team
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Nov 22, 2010 
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Today MILB.com published its Yankees minor league all-star team. Taking into account only the season stats — not a player’s prospect status or long-term future — the team was built on the players who had the best seasons at each individual position.
Follow the link to read about the individual selections. Here’s the team itself.
C: Jesus Montero
1B: Luke Murton
2B: Corban Joseph
3B: Brandon Laird
SS: Eduardo Nunez
OF: Justin Christian
OF: Melky Mesa
OF: Dan Brewer
DH: Juan Miranda
RSP: Dellin Betances
LSP: Shaeffer Hall
RP: Jonathan Albaladejo
Christian is no longer considered a prospect, but I think he was a pretty solid choice given the options. The Yankees minor league system is fairly thin in the outfield, especially in the upper levels. That helps explain the minor trade to acquire the free-swinging Cody Johnson.
I think my only disagreement with MILB.com’s list is at right-handed starter, and that’s kind of nit-picking. Betances was outstanding in his 17 starts between Tampa and Trenton, but I might have leaned toward Graham Stoneburner, David Phelps or Ivan Nova. What Betances did was impressive — and it was exactly what the Yankees wanted to see — but if this is strictly about celebrating which pitcher had the best season, I’d go with a starter who threw more than 86 innings.
Shaeffer Hall must have hidden upside to be picked over Manny Banuelos as a LHSP.
Luke Murton is a good power hitter with decent average, but if NYYs can deal him with others, they need to do so. Age is not on his side. He’s likely to have a ML career about like his brother Matt if he gets to the ML.
Is base in the Sally League, I’d have taken Lyerly, but, limited games there got him.
Nice to see daniel Brewer get some love. That kid can flat out hit and has really good speed as well as playing good defense at all 3 outfield spots. he can also fill in at the 2 infield corners if necessary.
Shaefer Hall has a bit of andy Pettitte style to him. Not small but not Pettitte horse size.
Banuelos didn’t pitch enough and this is about seasons and not future.
Banuelos didn’t pitch enough and this is about seasons and not future.
I’m more happy with Noesi than Nova, though they had similar seasons. That’s the guy I’d keep if having to trade one or the other. Phelps is a younger version of Mussina (at the same age). He’s just flat out a winner.
Robbie is the exception that proves the rule.
I saw Phelps pitch a couple times this year and came away liking what I saw…..he knows what he’s doing out there for sure.
Phelps got some very good coaching at Notre Dame and along the way.
Really simple delivery for Phelps. I’m hoping that he can hide the ball just a touch, though.
what level did Phelps pitch at last year??
Scranton and Trenton
thanks for the info GB7!
No problem
GB7,
I agree and you reallly get the sense that he has a plan of how to attack hitters….weird to me that you really don’t read much about him. He just kinda chugs along in the shadows….but he’s had really good seasons at every level, career 2.50 era in the minors in 382 innings.
It’s such a crap shoot. In between injuries, poor performance and trades not many make it to the show much less have an impact. I’d guess that maybe 12-15% of all players in the minors make it onto a 40 man roster and less than 10% make it on to a 25 man roster.
Phelps doesn’t look that impressive, stuff wise, but, he really is. Everything is well above average and he sets up the hitters well. He’s one I’d hate for NYYs to lose. I’d rather trade soneburner than him…certainly prefer him over Nova and Noesi, and I like Noesi. I’d keep Bleich and hall for another year…good stuff (Bleich really is a Pettitte type), just because they are lefties. Let them gain experience and move one in a trade.
GB….On the previous thread you referenced the great Tony Oliva….Some old timers ( players and scouts ) say that if his knees didn’t fail him he would have gone down as one of the top 10 left handed hitters ever…..I remember seeing him as a kid at The Stadium and on The Game of the Week and former Red Sox play by play man Curt Gowdy used to compare him to Williams and Musial as far as being such a pure hitter……Your thoughts ???
Pat, Oliva had a beautiful swing and a ton of power. The knees were very much Mantle like. No cartilage in either knee…just bone on bone. He still might belong in the HOF. His numbers were better than quite a few HOFers.
Probably a better comparison for Olivo is Carew. Great hitter, though he didn’t have the power of Musial or Williams.
It’s really a pity that so little video exists on Oliva, just so fans today could see real talent.
Oliva had a lot of power…especially considering how much trouble he had turning on a ball. The last half of his career was all hands.
Oliva didn’t start ’til he was 25?
bobshantz….You’re the little lefty who had some real ggod seasons in the 50′s…….As great as Carew was Tony O. was the better hitter I say……George Brett was much like Oliva….Gwynn and Carew could just shoot the ball anywhere were as Oliva and Brett would hit liners to the wall…..All great hitters of course…..
Another pure hitter of the 60s and 70s that gets overlooked and forgotten…another guy that couldn’t stay healthy was Rico Carty.
Yes, you’re right, Brett is probably a better comparison. Oliva hit >30 HR only once.
Mattingly’s career: ..307 .358 .471 .830
Oliva’s career: .304 .353 .476 .830
2 first basemen that had their careers stunted because of injury. History doesn’t repeat itself but it does rhyme.
Olivia wasn’t a 1b. Sorry I’m an idiot.
bobshantz….The old Metropolitan Park was a haven for right hand hitters as in was only 365 to the power alley, not so generous to right field……30 dingers in those days was a considerable feat……
Anyone know what Oliva’s real first name was ?
He was outstanding hitter for sure.
Carew seemed to “serve” the ball almost at will where he wanted !
He came here using his brothers birth cert.
Tom in NJ…..The Twins had 2 guys who were ready to take over Tony O’s duties at 2nd, Graig Nettles and Rodney Carew……
“Oliva didn’t start ’til he was 25?”
Looks like the Twins had a pretty loaded outfield in 1962 and 1963. Maybe they had trouble squeezing him in before 1964.
Oliva’s real name is Pedro. He used his brother’s papers to get out of Cuba.
The Twins outfield was Jimmy Hall in center, Killebrew in left and Bob Allison in right in ’63. I think that Lenny Green had a career year in ’62 and played center.
GreenBeret7 November 22nd, 2010 at 8:37 pm
Pat, Oliva had a beautiful swing and a ton of power. The knees were very much Mantle like. No cartilage in either knee…just bone on bone. He still might belong in the HOF. His numbers were better than quite a few HOFers.
bobshantz November 22nd, 2010 at 8:39 pm
Probably a better comparison for Olivo is Carew. Great hitter, though he didn’t have the power of Musial or Williams.
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Saw Tony Oliva.
Great, great hitter. The thing with Oliva that set him apart was he could hit some ropes … while Carew was a spray hitter, to all fields, Oliva hit the ball hard. Not necessaily reaching the seats enough to be called a HR hitter, but he hit a lot of doubles. And all he did was win the batting title his first two seasons. The guy hit big league pitching from day one.
A pure hitter indeed. All I know is I hated to see him coming up with men on base against the Yankees. And he seemed to relish playing at The Stadium, unfortunately for our guys at the time.
I remember him hitting back to back ground rule doubles at the Stadium….The thing was they were one hoppers into both bullpens…….The visitors bullpne was 401 feet away……Seemed to me that he always hit ropes…..I thought he came up as a 2nd baseman and then was moved to the outfield, then DH’d for a year or so……I could be wrong of course
Pat, I can’t remember the details, but I know that his knees were completely shot in his last few years. That’s when he DH’d.
D-Backs are reaching desparation stage for offense. They’ve signed a name out of the past, Sean Burroughs, who hasn’t played pro ball since 2007. a big time draft choice that flopped. He wasn’t his daddy, to be sure (Jeff the ’74 AL MVP).
***desperation*** stage
Oliva was always an outfielder and even had about 40 games in center in his early years. He could run some back then.
Via Twitter… @JeffPassan Source: #Yankees want to offer Mariano Rivera only a one-year deal. Rivera seeking two-year deal for around $18 million per season.
Looks like it’s hardball for the other legend.
GB…..I watched Sean play as a Little Leaguer ( Long Beach LL )…….Sean liked the night life just a little too much……He knew way too many Doormen in the San Giego area…..
The only thing that I didn’t like about Oliva was that he stole the batting title from Murcer back in 1971.
Maybe Jeter & Rivera do a Koufax / Drysdale on The Yanks……I wonder if both guys are looking at the coins that The Bombers are paying AJ Burnett…..Last contract for both guys……
show rivera the money and the years
Pat M. November 22nd, 2010 at 9:24 pm
GB…..I watched Sean play as a Little Leaguer ( Long Beach LL )…….Sean liked the night life just a little too much……He knew way too many Doormen in the San Giego area…..
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What I mostly remember about him was the media play he got in the LLWS. he overshadowed everyone and seemed a little to in love with himself then at age 12. his dad was there every step of the way. he could hit, though.
GB7, yeah, I don’t ever remember seeing him play anywhere but outfield. He wasn’t bad either, in fact a pretty decent RF in his earlier years.
Btw, I remember that story about his using his brother’s name and id to get out of Cuba. Supposedly his YOUNGER brother. So the word was that he was older than the record showed, iirc. It wasn’t a big deal back then, since it was before free agency, and salaries were a relative pittance.
I have zero use for Hal Steinbrenner and Randy Levine. I’m now angry.
Yankees Prefer To Offer Rivera One Year
By Ben Nicholson-Smith
November 22 at 8:20pm CST
The Yankees want to re-sign Mariano Rivera to a one-year deal, but the closer wants a two-year contract worth about $18MM per season, according to Yahoo’s Jeff Passan (on Twitter). Jon Heyman of SI.com reported on Friday that Rivera was looking for a two-year deal and it now appears that the 40-year-old wants a raise from his 2010 salary of $15MM.
Like longtime teammate and fellow free agent Derek Jeter, Rivera will likely return to New York, but there’s no guarantee that negotiations will go smoothly for either player. With 559 regular season saves, a career 2.23 ERA, strong peripherals and a history of relatively good health, Rivera has considerable bargaining power. The Yankees can point to Rivera’s age – he turns 41 in a week – and suggest a one-year deal is fair, but Rivera has posted ERAs below 2.00 and been an All-Star each season from 2008-10.
GB…Sean was a big kid for Little League back then as he just overwhelmed all the other 11-12 year olds…..He can’t more than 30 years old…..
Won’t this be a fun winter. Even for Rivera, $18 mil a year for 2 years for a closer is a bit steep. if there’s any truth to it.
Yankees Prefer To Offer Rivera One Year
By Ben Nicholson-Smith [November 22 at 8:20pm CST]
The Yankees want to re-sign Mariano Rivera to a one-year deal, but the closer wants a two-year contract worth about $18MM per season, according to Yahoo’s Jeff Passan (on Twitter). Jon Heyman of SI.com reported on Friday that Rivera was looking for a two-year deal and it now appears that the 40-year-old wants a raise from his 2010 salary of $15MM.
Like longtime teammate and fellow free agent Derek Jeter, Rivera will likely return to New York, but there’s no guarantee that negotiations will go smoothly for either player. With 559 regular season saves, a career 2.23 ERA, strong peripherals and a history of relatively good health, Rivera has considerable bargaining power. The Yankees can point to Rivera’s age – he turns 41 in a week – and suggest a one-year deal is fair, but Rivera has posted ERAs below 2.00 and been an All-Star each season from 2008-10.
GB7 – Looks like Jon Heyman was right about Jeter and Mariano. And what do you know, neither has Scott Boras for an agent.
Oliva was about an average defender, maybe a little better, but a rocket arm in right.
Love Mariano Rivera but 18 million for 60 innings is a lot of coin.
GB, that’s what I was remembering about Oliva in RF … his arm.
Funny – now some of you understand how I feel about Jeter. Angry at the lack of respect. I do feel, however, that if Mo felt the Yankees showed a lack of respect for him, he would walk away.
Blake, that works out to $100,000 an out. Not bad work if you can get it!!!
Blake he is still the best closer in baseball. Who else would you want in the game when it’s on the line? 1.80 ERA with a 0.83 WHIP.
Hal and Levine are now polluting the environment with bad will, playing hardball with first ballot Hall of Famers who are Yankee legends. He owns a team worth almost 2 billion dollars; penny wise and pound foolish is a start – idiotic is more like it.
So what if Jeter and Mariano spend a couple of years being somewhat ineffective. Posada and A-Rod both are/will be in that position and they are willing to do it with Lee if they give him 6 years which you know they will.
Sorry, that’s my opinion if this is true.
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You have got to be kidding me!! Jorge Vazquez is not on that list?!?! Murton gets first base? What a joke!! Jorge should even get the nod over Miranda at DH. Miranda had 15d, 15hr, and 43rbi in 80 games in Scranton. Vazquez had 21d, 18hr, and 62rbi in 76 games!! Miranda did have a higher avg but only by 4 hits…..Vazquez led the system in slg%, and led the organization in HR per AB. El Destructor does not get any credit. Wait until ST, he will show them.