A few minor notes
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Nov 26, 2010 
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Just a few small notes from around the minor league system.
• Baseball American pegged Manny Banuelos as the No. 6 prospect in the Arizona Fall League this season. “He worked on mixing his pitches better while in Arizona,” the magazine wrote. “He also improved his ability to pitch inside to hitters.” Bryce Harper, obviously, topped the list. He hit .343/.410/.629 in Arizona.
• Speaking of Baseball America: They have a list of all the 40-man additions in preparation for the Rule 5 draft. Some of the recognizable names: Zach McAllister with the Indians, Jimmy Paredes with the Astros and Jamie Hoffmann with the Dodgers. If he hadn’t been traded in the Lance Berkman deal, it’s hard for me to believe Paredes would have been protected by the Yankees.
• My friend Patrick over at Pinstripes Plus has an interview with new Yankees minor leaguer Scottie Allen. It’s an interesting read. He came out of high school with pretty much a fastball and curveball, but has since learned a changeup and slider. Patrick has the details.
• Keeping with tradition in Scranton, the Scranton/Wilkes-Barre Yankees schedule was announce on Thanksgiving. Check out August. Twenty-two home games that month, including an 11-day home stand. Some guys might sign minor league deals with the Yankees just for that.
Banuelos is just a kid………….he’s my favorite of all the prospects. I hope Cash was not serious when he said that Manny would be considered as a potential arm out of the pen this year. He’s 19 – he needs to accumulate innings and he needs to start
ManBam might just be the real deal.
A funny post courtesy of a Facebook friend:
“Philadelphia eharmony matches approximately 70% mention a professional sports team. San Francisco matches less than 10%”.
“I think “Killer” is in GB’s doghouse because of his late night forays.”
yeah, gb7 is ticked off.
he’s cutting back on killer’s beer allowance.
I have a great book to recommend by Laura Hillenbrand who wrote ‘Seabiscuit’.
Her new book is called ‘Unbroken’. It is the story of Louis Zamperini who become an Olympic runner, and then survived a journey of 2,000 miles in the Pacific in a raft after being shot down in WWII, and then inhumane treatment in POW camps.
Randy-
GB is realistic. He knows Killer’s faults but he just couldn’t tolerate that.
It’s too much.
So your right. He’s in the doghouse deprived of his beer and pizza privileges until further notice.
Heck. He’s not even getting any conjugal visits because of his transgressions.
Sooner or later GB will fell sorry for him and relent.
edit: “feel” not “fell”. Duh. typing yips.
“A Few Minor Notes” Hey! I see what you did there!
blake November 26th, 2010 at 7:06 pm
I certainly wouldn’t mind a bit if thee added Crawford….he’s a real good ballplayer
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Crawfords would be a great additon, we are lacking that impact type player out there.
What’s on the tube tonight? House reruns? Back to Back to Back episodes of Man vrs Food, Law and Order and Housewives of NJ? Survivorman? Friday is such a great night when you can stream Netflix on your PC.
Blake-
Sugar high gone ?
Gary,
He would..but I don’t see them adding both he and Lee to the payroll. If they want to then I certainly wont complain but their comments haven’t suggested that’s something they’ll do. My guess is if the offense is changed it will be by trade.
Chad, have you worked up a list of players that you expect the Yankees to lose in the Rule 5 and any idea who if anyone the Yanks might be interested in?
MTU,
Its gettin there but im.about to have another.piece of pie…..so…….
Jon Garland signs with the Dodgers for $5M. At that price, he would have been a good addition to the Yankees staff.
AL,
The Yanks.are probably hoping they wont have room for him come March.
David Aardsma as our bridge to Mo?
Crap it’s till there! Homemade blueberry pie and vanilla Hagen Daz.
WCYF,
I thinking Jack Z and the Yanks may not be on the best of terms right now…
You know Blake you might have something there. lol Do you think that means no dealing even if it could help the club?
WCYF,
I don’t know….im guessing if the Yanks are able to land Lee then that will make them feel a little better about what happened at the deadline because they’ll have Lee and Montero..
blake -
That may well be, but, until they know the status of AP coming back, and the signing of Lee, other viable options are going away. Players the Yankees may have interest in are going going to sit by at wait to see if we have an interest. I’m just concerned if the Lee signing takes too long, or does not happen, and Andy decides to retire, we will be emptying the farm to get a front line pitcher, if one is even available through trade.
It’s time to put Jeter on the back burner, go strong after Lee, and get that deal done. After that, call Close in for a meeting, present the very best offer they can live with, and give Jeter a time limit to sign. If Jeter walks, then go to your plan B quickly, and sign another bat.
Bryce Harper looks like the real deal. I expect to see him in a Nats uniform around the AS break, if not sooner. He’ll be a big draw, and put fans in the seats.
AL,
I agree. If it seems the Jeter deal is going to take awhile then you switch to Lee and try to get that done as quickly as possible….at least get a resolution so that other plans can be made. I don’t really believe Cashman can do both at once though….whenever Lee is ready to start making a decision then Im pretty sure the Yankees focus will go there….Jeter isn’t going anywhere.
Maybe Jeter can make a career change and join LeBron in Miami, on second thought, that move’s not working out too well for the self proclaimed “King” of B-Ball.
AL,
Harper just turned 18 and the only professional ball he’s played I believe is in the AFL….I’m thinking they’ll want him to at least get a full season in the minors, maybe break him in with when Strasburg comes back in 2012.
Harper hits pretty well for a kid from Vegas.
Gotta love his name. Especially if you’re me.
Named after Bryce Canyon NP here in Utah I bet.
Great place. Great young hitter. makes sense.
Al-
You’ve got mail.
MTU,
Have you recovered from Holiday activities?
MTU – You got mail.
Blake-
Other than my ribs being a little sore, Yes.
My wife was working and I could not be with Family so I decided to spend the evening with a hiking buddy who would otherwise have been alone for the Holiday.
It worked out well for the both of us.
Al-
My sentiments exactly. Will do.
“Jon Garland signs with the Dodgers for $5M. At that price, he would have been a good addition to the Yankees staff.”
Sounds like he wanted LA or at least out of San Diego.
Ken_Rosenthal Garland really wanted #Dodgers. Turned down his end of $6.75M mutual opt w Padres for $5M base plus $3M in bonuses b/w 150 and 190 IP #MLB
MTU,
well that sounds like fun. Glad you had a good day.
blake -
Forget where he’s played, this kid is unreal. He left HS early to go to college to be eligible for the draft. When he played at the old YS with HS AS, he was hitting tape measure jobs then. I believe this kid can hit any level of pitching. Give him 3 months in AAA, and give him a look. If he stays healthy, he could be the next super star in baseball.
AL,
maybe, but they still haven’t iron out where he’s playing yet and he had some trouble with off speed stuff in the AFL. He does seem to have all the right stuff to be special.
Al-
Harper is a big Yankees fan.
Shame that he is gonna wind up with the Nats.
Maybe we’ll get him on the rebound.
blake -
I’d like having to worry about where I’d play this kid. Remember, with that type of talent, you find a spot. After all, it’s the Nats, not the Yankees. If he was in the Yankees system, you wouldn’t see he for 3 years.
Blake-
Thanks. I guess it’s back to drillin’ n’ fillin’ come Monday, huh ?
Hope yours was equally as good.
MTU -
We don’t lose enough games to draft players like Harper.
MTU,
unfortunately…..I had a great day. Fried a turkey and it didn’t blow up….what could be better
I’m going to call it a night. Ya’ll have a good night.
Al-
Too bad teams can’t trade draft picks like in FB.
Makes too much sense.
Like the FB challenge system for baseball.
agreed.
Night Al.
Blake-
That’s good because the Firemen don’t want their Holiday spoiled either.
So. Whatdya think on Jeter ? 3 plus an option get it ?
MTU,
I think it’ll be be something like that…..maybe vesting option for 4th year. I’m done worrying about the Jeter stuff….it’ll get done and there is just so much misinformation out there now that its turned into a circus.
The Nats would crazy to run Harper out there in 2011. his professional career exists of exactly 9 professional games, all in the AFL. He’s never faced a decent veteran pitcher with a curve or hard slider. Wait until he has to go up agaunst Carpenter, Halliday, etc. he shouldn’t get a sniff until mid to late 2012 at best.
Look out for the in a few years or so. Lerner is worth 3 billion dollars, Strasburg and Harper.
Blake-
Too bad it got tried in the press. If it were a trial they’d need a change of venue to get ‘er
done.
That’s my guess FWIW 3 plus an option.
The money is what I can’t figure right now.
Don’t think Jeter wants to take a cut even though his performance last season indicates that maybe he should.
Gotta hope it works out. It would be sad for both sides if it doesn’t IMO.
They definitely need to keep the spotlight on Lee. Can’t let that one slip thru the cracks.
Get Mo done too.
sic – look out for the Nats
Interesting thing on Strasburg was that it is on record that Don Cooper spotted a flaw in his Pitching motion that he said would lead to arm trouble before it actually did.
He called the flaw the “inverted W”. I think Aj has it too, and of course he had TJ.
That was one of the reasons I really like Cooper as potential PC for the Yanks.
Unfortunately, he was not available.
Uecker on Costas is hilarious. The story about working with Cosell is priceless.
This is the most credible report I have seen. Michael Schmidt at the New York Times.
“Derek Jeter’s agent, Casey Close, is currently asking the Yankees to agree to a new contract of either four or five years at $23 to $24 million a year, according to a person in baseball who had been briefed on the matter”.
http://bats.blogs.nytimes.com/.....on-a-year/
Well it looks like most everyone is settling into a stupor after gorging themselves for the 2nd
night in a row.
Have a good night everyone.
LOL @ jeter’s (close’s) asking price. I love jeter but he has never had a $25M season in his career and he’s definitly begun the slide. I wouldn’t offer him $15M per, let alone $25M.
This is why the position switch thing worries me so much, DJ seems to have a very inflated opinion of his ability at this point and getting him off SS next year (or the year after) might be even worse then resolving the contract situation.
Schmidt:
“Still, the current offers — three years at $15 million a year by the Yankees and a maximum five years at $23 to $24 million by Close — suggest an obvious compromise in which the two sides would settle at four years and, say, $19 million a year”.
That’s how you negotiate. Neither side winds up entirely happy but you get a deal that you can sign and live with. Four years – $19 million. Front load it get the pen out and let’s move on.
Well, that’s not happening……..
Also, I’ll bet the Yankees are more willing to compromise on $$ (not a lot, though) than years…..
The 3 years and $15 million offered by the Yankees is not that far away from a compromise deal of 4 years $19 million.
If you want to make a deal you have to compromise and meet in the middle somewhere.
LOL Well 4/5 years at that ridiculous amount of $$ is not happening. I’ll bet the Yankees are more willing to compromise on $$ (not a lot, though) than years…. however, they may be pretty upset that Close is asking for that much $$ given his Jeter’s age and poor 2010. I’m assuming the Yankees just don’t think that is being reasonable – and I agree.
If I’m the Yankees, I don’t move off of my offer……
That’s not negotiating in good faith. You don’t go to the wall on a first offer.
I bet he signs for more than 3/45
lets just say for some reason (hank was mean to his parents…) jeter was absolutly not going to sign with the yankees. What kind of contract offers do you think he would get from other teams?
i say no more than 3yrs/$25M
You are right Balke. I would bet a lot on it.
Sorry lol sp Blake
No, that’s not how you negotiate.
It’s how you negotiate if you are an amateur.
How you negotiate is, you don’t negotiate against yourself.
Without a competitive offer, the Yankees have no reason to raise their offer.
Their current offer still makes him the highest paid SS in the game by 40%.
Unless Derek gets competitive offers in years and/or dollars, I wouldn’t hold my breath expecting the Yankees to raise their offer just because Casey’s original asking price is “baffling”.
Uecker with Costas hurt my ribcage. Especially when he talked about his kids playing ball, what did you expect them to do?
Yep, SJ. I think the Yankees believe they’ve made an extremely fair offer to Jeter and now I think they may dig in their heels because if the above is true, that’s just asking for the sun and the moon. This has nothing to do with the Yankees not loving or appreciating Jeter…………….3/45 is nothing to sneeze at. Kim Jones was on WFAN today and she admitted she was surprised that there are more fans than she’d thought that are siding with the Yankees. Not all (maybe not even a majority) Yankee fans are willing to give Jeter whatever he wants because he’s an icon. When push comes to shove, fans care about what’s good for the team.
Now that Jeter is asking for so much, I wonder if whatever teams were interested in him at all in the first place have been scared off………….I mean, why bother making an offer that’s close to or barely tops the Yankees’ when that won’t come close to satisfying him anyway?
Right SJ44. Close is an amateur. That’s why he ran the baseball division at IMG and now does the same at CAA.
And that’s why Close negotiated a five-year, $125 million extension for Ryan Howard with the Phillies. He was NOT an unrestricted free agent — there were no other teams in the bidding.
This notion of “bidding against yourself” that some fans throw around is misunderstood most of the time.
The fans have zero to do with this. This is a negotiation between professionals.
The Yankees knew all along they would be bidding against themselves in this when they admitted they would take into consideration what Jeter has meant to the franchise….this was never about his value to other teams.
I think the Yankees are going to make Jeter give a lot more than they do…..but I do think they would probably be willing to give a little just to get it over with so that they could move on. I don’t know what he’ll sign for but I bet it will be for more than 3/45, don’t know how much more….may just be adding an option on.
“Michael S. Schmidt of The New York Times reports that Jeter is seeking a four or five-year deal worth $23-24MM annually according to “a person in baseball who had been briefed on the matter.”"
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com
This is getting comical really….so just today Jeter had wanted 6/150 and they were 105 million apart, then they were 80 million apart, now they are only 40 or 50 million apart…..hey maybe by tomorrow they will be close to an agreement at this rate.
Forget Close. Jeter should handle his last contract with the Yankees himself. Jeter will be more than Close and his agency post baseball, but he won’t rise above baseball history.
Casey needs to create a market for Derek if he hopes to raise the Yankees offer.
If he can’t, he can give all the interviews he wants to Mike Lupica, it won’t amount to a thing.
Scott Boras calls it the “one dumb owner” strategy.
Casey needs to find that “one dumb owner”.
If not, he will be spending more time devising a save face strategy for Derek than he will signing him to a 100 million dollar deal or anything close to it.
Blake, I would not be opposed to a club option for a 4th year………..I’d rather not, but I wouldn’t be opposed. As to the Yanks, I think their offer of 3/45 does take into account what Jeter has meant to the franchise. I don’t want to see him really test the FA waters because I think he would find the waters rather shallow and cold – not many offers for him – and I don’t want to see him be embarrassed.
We’re all saying the same things over and over. I wish something else would happen to take our minds off this, lol
Blake, that’s still a huge gulf………….and the other #s out there (6/150, which I never really believed) were just rumors.
WCYF:
I wouldn’t bet on it.
I don’t see the Yankees going 4 years unless its an option and. From what I heard earlier today is that 3/50 + incentives/milestones (which would bring it up to 18.5 per year) is their absolute final offer.
As much I love Jeter and would feel an emptiness without him, I’d let him walk if that doesn’t work for him. It’s extremely generous and one can argue, borderline ridiculous.
His previous 10 year contract has paid for all of what/who he was yesterday. It’s now become a moot point (i.e. but Arod got, DJ is entitled because of blah blah)
However, I would bet on the fact that Close and Jeter are refocusing from their initial aim. It’s up to them now to either sign or walk away.
Close and Jeter are very good friends. He was the son of a good friend of Derek’s mother.
Are you seriously going to try and compare Ryan Howard’s situation with Derek Jeter?
One guy is a power, middle of the order hitter, in the prime of his career.
The other is a 36 year old SS on the downside of his career, coming off the worst year of his career.
Do you want to compare the comps on what first basemen earn against what SS’s earn?
That’s how you determine price in the marketplace.
Comparing Howard to Jeter is the classic fan mistake of comparing apples and oranges. Their comps aren’t relevant at all.
I’ve known Casey personally for over 12 years. He’s a very good agent.
However, without competing offers, he’s not getting Derek anything close to his asking price……from anybody.
Lost – The agent is obligated to report all offers and the ancillary details and nuances to his client. He will always make a recommendation and then it is the client’s final decision what he wants to do.
If what you say is true Lost and I was Jeter’s agent, I would recommend he walk away.
be careful about those club option years. no matter how much jeter slides between now and then, turning down a club option on DJ will still be very very hard to do and could lead to a very bad ending to his yankees career.
WCYF-
The problem here is that we don’t know how much of these leaks from these “sources” are true. We have heard many figures today from multiple journalists ranging from 20-25 million and 3-6 years. We have yet to have a concrete source other than the famous “a source close to both sides”. For all we know, the actual figures being negotiated could be much closer together or much further apart. Personally, I think four years is a reasonable amount of time. I disagree with Betsy, though, I think they will have an easier time agreeing on the years and a harder time on the $.
WCYF,
I know. No problem with friends. It’s Derek’s last contract. There’s talk about leverage between the Yankees and Jeter. I think it can go further, to his agent.
Betsy,
They aren’t bidding against other teams anyway, they are bidding against Jeter’s legacy whether thats a good thing or not. Everyone knows he’s going back to the Yankees….he’s worth more to them than he is to anyone else so the price tag is going to be different for them than anyone else. A tractor is worth more to a farmer than it is to a mailman…..I’ve said several times that 3/45 is a fair offer but if Casey Close called tomorrow and said ok….we’ll do 3/55 with a vesting option for the 4th, then I think Cashman might just agree to it.
Seriously, this blank check mentality and the “Jeter is holier than thou” arguments are just silly at best. If Jeter was to get an offer for strictly his on-field performance of the last 2 years, it would be somewhere in the range of 10 – 12 million. Anything above that is because of history. Which too me is just wrong. He already got a 10 year deal that in which he was compensated for his abilities.
Who’s to say that at the end of 3 years at 40 years old, he doesn’t tell the Yankees I want another 2 year deal for 50 million because of all I have done for the club in the past and who I am. Where do you draw the line? What’s it going to take for people to realize that you don’t keep paying people over and beyond at the tail end of their careers? Their is no entitlement in baseball. It’s always about value and return.
SJ44 I mentioned Ryan Howard in the context of your comment about a team bidding against themselves. But Ryan Howard is not Derek Jeter and I reject the notion as Close does that the value of this contract should be judged by one year’s between the lines performance.
Also, the “worst year” of his career as you describe it, resulted in Jeter scoring 111 runs the second highest total in the AL. That’s what you want from a lead off hitter. He also had the fewest errors of any other shortstop in the AL. He had a down year in most hitting categories. One year.
WCYF:
“If what you say is true Lost and I was Jeter’s agent, I would recommend he walk away.”
Now what would that solve? What sense does that make? Maybe he gets a 2/24 deal from a different club? That’s like the ole saying, “I am going to stick it to you, by hurting myself more”.
Nobody is even going to come close to what the Yankees are offering him. Not by a long shot.
Where is he going to walk to?
A 10 million dollar deal somewhere else?
That would be dumb.
That’s precisely what you don’t do because you destroy the brand you built all these years as being all about winning and the team.
In essence, Jeter would be leaving the Yankees because he’s “upset” he’s the highest paid SS in baseball by “only” 40%.
He’s so “upset”, he’s going to sign somewhere else for less money! That will show’em! lol
Fortunately, Derek isn’t that dumb.
He will re-sign with the Yankees and life will go on.
Lost no one is asking for a blank check.
There is not an iceberg chance in hell that Derek Jeter will agree to a first offer ultimatum of 3 years and $45 million, an effective $4 million a year pay cut.
Ys Guy, I agree about the option……that does complicate things
He’s 36, and tied for the most outs made by anybody in baseball this past season.
He was a poor leadoff hitter this year.
No 36 year old SS in the history of the game has signed a contract longer than 3 years for the money the Yankees currently have on the table.
In other words, he’s not getting a better deal anywhere else.
Unless he does, God could be his agent and he’s not getting anything close to what he’s looking for.
Lost November 26th, 2010 at 9:36 pm
WCYF: “If what you say is true Lost and I was Jeter’s agent, I would recommend he walk away.”
Now what would that solve? What sense does that make? Maybe he gets a 2/24 deal from a different club? That’s like the ole saying, “I am going to stick it to you, by hurting myself more”.
Nobody is even going to come close to what the Yankees are offering him. Not by a long shot.
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Jeter is wealthy and has huge earning potential outside of baseball. If it were me, I would walk away if that was a take it or leave it offer. To capitulate would be humiliating and insulting.
As I said earlier, the Price is Right has begun.
Now if Close says nothing about the latest leak, it is perceived as true. If he responds that this one is false too, there will be another source who steps forward tomorrow who has the “real” scoop.
He opened this can of worms with the denial earlier today.
You could make it a vesting option which only kicked in if Jeter was still a full time and productive player…..make it to where he only would get a 4th year if he was still playing well enough to warrant it.
You don’t cut your nose to spite your face. That’s what Damon did………and the Jeter situation is 100 X bigger than that. Jeter wants to be back and the Yankees want him back……….they’ll get it done, but it’s going to have to be Jeter who backs down off his ridiculous demands. This is nothing personal – I adore Jeter; I felt the same way when Jorge demanded 4 years and threatened to go to the Mets.
“He opened this can of worms with the denial earlier today.”
I agree but I’m not sure he had much of a choice….the longer that 6/150 rumor was out there, the more Jeter was going to get killed for it.
Michael Schmidt’s use of this phrase “according to a person in baseball who had been briefed on the matter” leads me to believe it’s true. Also, that he writes for the New York Times who now has very stringent policies concerning corroborating sources although I don’t know if the “Bats” section adheres to that criteria..
The Times has strict policies for corroborating sources? Does the name Jayson Blair ring a bell? I don’t believe anything that papers says.
Sorry, just noticed you included the word “now”..
Maybe the Yankees want Jeter to walk. I wouldn’t put it past Hal and Hank Steinbrenner. Maybe they want to keep the $45 million.
If they don’t, if they want Jeter back, they know darn well that you don’t make a first offer and make it an ultimatum.
Straw that was a long time ago and was one lone gun. Their policies are much more stringent now. They are the most respected newspaper in the world. And I am not talking about their political bent, I am talking about their standards of journalism.
Hard to know what the Steins are thinking. With Torre it was clear that the offer was a sham and that they didn’t want him back. With Damon, though, I believe they thought he might consider their offer and that they hoped to have him back at that price. I think Jeter falls more into the latter category. I hope the result is not the same. He does need to cave at some point and just accept their offer.
if the yankees do make this their final offer, jeter will take it. he has no choice.
Look, what do I know, not much. I’m not an insider. Jeter may capitulate and take their offer. I just believe that will not happen. It’s not a personal thing with me, I want it over.
WCYF-
I have generally enjoyed their sports articles for their thoroughness and fine writing. The piece on Mo’s cutter comes to mind.
Mo. I forgot about him! lol 2 years yes?
A negotiation course I took said that negotiation was primarily a process of finding out what range of values would lead the other party to make a deal. If your range and their range overlap, then you agree to a deal within the intersection. What someone asks for is not really relevant to the final deal. A proposal is essentially part of the process of finding out what the other party needs to make the deal.
In this case, the Yanks have a pretty good idea of where the market is. They already know that 3/45 is fairly high up within Jeter’s range. They know Jeter will sign with them whether they sweeten the offer or not. Now, it’s just a question of whether the Yanks want to play hardball, say by putting deadline on their offer, or whether the Yanks will let Jeter take as much time as he wants to accept their offer.
In a sense this is a game of chicken. The delay is hurting the public image of both Jeter and the Yankees. I blame only Jeter for playing this delay game. He could simply accept the Yanks’ offer, which is more than fair IMHO. He could go the Yanks and say he would immediatley accept an offer of, say, 3/50. The Yanks might be willing to add a sweetener just to get the deal done. But, based on what we’re reading, Jeter is wasting everyone’s time by making ridiculous demands.
Compromise? Why??? the Yankees are offering to overpay him already BUT they should overpay him EVEN MORE because Jeter has a counter offer??? LMAO. Jeter will get some pity/save your face money added if anything at all.
Humiliating and insulting for a 37 year old, .270, no power, no range SS to make $15,000,000? That’s just crazy thinking.
Mo deserves whatever he asks for. Give him 2/36 and call it a day.
Agreed, Straw
David the fallacy there is knowing the veracity of what their range is. It is common to establish a range lower or higher than you might readily accept, depending. It’s a poker game and you don’t know what the guy sitting across the table has in his hand, nor do you know ultimately how he will play those cards.
Betsy, Straw and I agree! Pay the man!
Actually, we probably agree on Jeter as well. I would have no problem with 4/19 and think it is reasonable on both sides. I just don’t know what to make of the Yankees bluster or Close’s media game at this point. Hopefully it is just bluster on both sides that unfortunately has been made into news and that will not foreclose a mutual agreement.
Jeter’s not going to get paid what he did the last few years of his previous contract. No matter how you spin it, he is not worth 20 mil because of his namesake.
The money the Yankees are offering him is for the fact that he is well, “Derek Jeter”. No other 37 years old player in history would even have the luxury to receive such an offer. Nor would any other team except the Yankees offer it.
WCYF:
“here is not an iceberg chance in hell that Derek Jeter will agree to a first offer ultimatum of 3 years and $45 million, an effective $4 million a year pay cut.”
Also, it wasn’t a “first offer” there has been multiple different offers already. Let me put this out there clearly..
The Yankees may bend a little bit more, but not much. They’ve clearly stated to both Jeter and Close directly where they are at. I personally, as with many others believe the Yankees are already offering him an extremely generous contract.
I have yet to read/hear a single compelling reason why Jeter deserves more than that. The “but Arod got, and Jeter did so much for the franchise, he’s got 5 rings..” does not cut it. None of that means justifies anything in regards to what he’ll bring to the team in the years to come.
“Jeter is wealthy and has huge earning potential outside of baseball. If it were me, I would walk away if that was a take it or leave it offer. To capitulate would be humiliating and insulting.”
We differ in opinion and so does 80% of baseball fans. You can check the polls but most don’t think that offer is humiliating and insulting. In fact most think the opposite.
You know what they say, “pride comes before a fall”.
WCYF:
“If they don’t, if they want Jeter back, they know darn well that you don’t make a first offer and make it an ultimatum.”
He’s been offered 3 different deals already. They’ve met face to face. I’d hardly say that is “first offer” with an ultimatum.
When Cash and crew received the counter offer from Close (5/100) they spoke and discussed it. They made their thoughts perfectly clear.
Way before Schmidt prints this article.. I already said that the counter was for aprox. 5/100. If you go back to this mornings post you’ll see it. You don’t have to take my word for it tho.
*sigh*