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Feinsand: Rangers make their pitch to Pettitte

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ALCS Rangers Yankees BaseballMark Feinsand has the story over at The Daily News.

The Texas Rangers have reached out to Andy Pettitte. According to Feinsand’s source, Rangers team president Nolan Ryan reached out to Pettitte in hopes of convincing the left-hander to stay close to home and pitch in Texas.

Previously, Pettitte has indicated that he will pitch for the Yankees or no one next season, but he has been lured back to Texas in the past and it’s hard to blame Ryan for at least pleading his case.

Looks like the Rangers might be competing against the Yankees for more than Cliff Lee this winter.

Associated Press photo of Pettitte

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116 Responses to “Feinsand: Rangers make their pitch to Pettitte”

  1. Tom in N.J. November 29th, 2010 at 7:34 pm

    :evil:

  2. GreenBeret7 November 29th, 2010 at 7:38 pm

    I put the Ranger’s chances with Pettitte at less than Jeter getting his current reported asking price.

  3. Betsy November 29th, 2010 at 7:43 pm

    There’s no competition. I don’t blame Ryan for trying, but there’s just nothing to see here.

  4. tyanksfan36 November 29th, 2010 at 7:43 pm

    I hate Texas, how dare they even talk to Andy.

  5. GreenBeret7 November 29th, 2010 at 7:45 pm

    Oh, oh!!! The Mets are trying to steal the back pages.

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/…..young.html

  6. RhapsodyInBlue November 29th, 2010 at 7:45 pm

    Don’t mess with Texas.

  7. blake November 29th, 2010 at 7:47 pm

    This is just the Rangers saying….you’re trying to.steal one of ours so were going to try to.steal one of yours…..they aren’t getting either and especially not Andy.

  8. raymagnetic November 29th, 2010 at 7:50 pm

    That would be quite funny if the Yankees and Rangers swapped lefties.

  9. TD213 November 29th, 2010 at 7:51 pm

    Could be a nice way for Andy to squeeze a few million extra from the Yanks, if he chooses to.

  10. West Coast Yankee Fan November 29th, 2010 at 7:52 pm

    This reminds me of Mike Kekich and Fritz Petersen.

  11. Bronx Jeers November 29th, 2010 at 7:52 pm

    I’m very surprised that somebody hasn’t linked this to the Jeter negotiation yet.

  12. DaSaint007 November 29th, 2010 at 7:54 pm

    Gee, I wonder who leaked this. Andy’s agent?

    So let me see….
    Derek a Giant?
    Andy a Ranger
    Only Mariano stays a Yankee?

    I’ll believe it when cows fly. They’ll all be back in pinstripes come ST.

  13. Yanks78 November 29th, 2010 at 7:54 pm

    Perhaps Andy’s way of creating a little leverage for his buddy Jeter?

  14. DaSaint007 November 29th, 2010 at 7:54 pm

    I bet this is linked to the Jeter negotiations.

    :-)

  15. LGY November 29th, 2010 at 7:55 pm

    WCYF,

    Nevermind dude. I was genuinely curious what you would just estimate or guess his on field value is, but you are dancing around the question more than a politician :D

  16. Rich in NJ November 29th, 2010 at 7:55 pm

    I think it’s a tacit acknowledgement by Texas that Lee will sign with the Yankees.

  17. tyanksfan36 November 29th, 2010 at 7:55 pm

    raymagnetic says:

    November 29, 2010 at 7:50 pm

    That would be quite funny if the Yankees and Rangers swapped lefties.

    _____

    The Rangers can keep Cliff Lee, I’d rather have Andy

  18. DaSaint007 November 29th, 2010 at 7:55 pm

    Sorry Bronx Jeers, couldn’t resist.

  19. MorningPerson November 29th, 2010 at 7:55 pm

    I hate Nolan Ryan.

    I’m sorry, but they have no money for a few years, ne c’est pas?

  20. Rich in NJ November 29th, 2010 at 7:56 pm

    “Perhaps Andy’s way of creating a little leverage for his buddy Jeter?”

    Texas reached out to Pettitte, not the other way around.

  21. LGY November 29th, 2010 at 7:56 pm

    Bronx,

    randy isn’t around ;)

  22. LGY November 29th, 2010 at 7:57 pm

    Nolan Ryan is secretly buddy buddy with Derek if you know what I am hinting at ;)

  23. Yanks78 November 29th, 2010 at 7:57 pm

    Both Andy and Rivera would high higher AAVs than Jeter on the open market

  24. Rich in NJ November 29th, 2010 at 7:58 pm

    “Both Andy and Rivera would high higher AAVs than Jeter on the open market”

    They both look to have more left.

  25. the gay yankee fan November 29th, 2010 at 8:03 pm

    “Could be a nice way for Andy to squeeze a few million extra from the Yanks, if he chooses to.”

    The Rangers are trying to pull a Red Sox, i.e. drive up the price of a free agent for the Yankees.

  26. West Coast Yankee Fan November 29th, 2010 at 8:20 pm

    I hope Andy takes the Steins to the proverbial cleaners. He was paid $11 million dollars last year while Burnett got $16,500. You want me back? Pay me.

  27. West Coast Yankee Fan November 29th, 2010 at 8:21 pm

    LGY I am dodging nothing. I don’t know what the going market is for Hall of Fame shortstops these days do you? What if last year was an outlier and he hits .300 and .295 and .290 the next three years? Do you know he won’t?

  28. MorningPerson November 29th, 2010 at 8:22 pm

    WCYF

    Why? Why do you hope anyone takes anyone “to the cleaners?” As if the Yankees don’t pay top dollar all around? NO ONE on the Yankees is underpaid.

    Geez.

  29. West Coast Yankee Fan November 29th, 2010 at 8:25 pm

    Pettitte was underpaid. He was the number two pitcher on the staff and got paid like a number 4 or 5.

  30. ac1 November 29th, 2010 at 8:27 pm

    yeah because other #2s make 11 mil / year?

  31. MorningPerson November 29th, 2010 at 8:27 pm

    Pettitte was lined up to be the #4.

    And he agreed to the terms.

    I really have to wonder what your deal is?

  32. West Coast Yankee Fan November 29th, 2010 at 8:29 pm

    So let’s say this is true and the Rangers offer Pettitte $15 million. What do you do if you are the Yankees?

  33. SAS November 29th, 2010 at 8:29 pm

    MP,

    I have agreed with what you have said all night. I said so a thread or so ago before I realized there was a new thread….I do that often.

  34. West Coast Yankee Fan November 29th, 2010 at 8:30 pm

    ac1 . Vazquez made $11 million I believe and Burnett $16.5. Is that right?

  35. Bronx Jeers November 29th, 2010 at 8:32 pm

    Andy pitched 129 innings as he missed nearly 1/3 of the season.

    I doubt he’s complaining about being underpaid.

  36. LGY November 29th, 2010 at 8:35 pm

    WC

    It is called a guess. No one is asking for fact.

    Based on what you expect on the field the next 3 years. Just that. Pure field value.

    I am not asking you how to solve world hunger man but you are dancing like a Rockette right now for some reason.

  37. GreenBeret7 November 29th, 2010 at 8:36 pm

    LMAO. talking abiut passing the buck when you screw up.

    http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/s.....blames-god

  38. MorningPerson November 29th, 2010 at 8:36 pm

    SAS-

    Hi – I’ve been posting at the end of threads today! It’s always nice to know when someone else is thinking along the same lines.

    :)

    ****

    Bronx Jeers -

    If Andy didn’t think it was a fair price, he wouldn’t have signed. Some people just like to keep controversy brewing – as if there wasn’t enough to begin with.

  39. Bronx Jeers November 29th, 2010 at 8:37 pm

    One thing the Rangers could do is offer a multi- year contract.

    Andy’s said he wants to take it one year at a time but if he were playing in Texas maybe he’d reconsider.

    Of course Andy’s also said that it’s the Yanks or retirement and like Rep. Elijah Cummings, I believe him.

  40. West Coast Yankee Fan November 29th, 2010 at 8:38 pm

    OK LGY – you are like a battering ram you win. I would say that if I was a GM I would pay Derek Jeter $15 million a year.

  41. 108 stitches November 29th, 2010 at 8:39 pm

    R.I.P. Gil McDougald

    http://www.nydailynews.com/spo.....at_82.html

  42. GreenBeret7 November 29th, 2010 at 8:41 pm

    Does Ken Rosenthal have a head the shape of a lemon or what? Put that with the fact that he always looks like he’s got a skunk strapped under his nose.

  43. blake November 29th, 2010 at 8:41 pm

    Ken Rosenthal on the Uribe contract: ” lifetime .300 OBP, Sabermetricians are going to hate this deal” :(

  44. Mell November 29th, 2010 at 8:41 pm

    Doesn’t hurt the Rangers to ask. Could try to sell the “closer to home and family” angle and all that. Pettitte did leave once after all.

    Don’t see it as much more than due diligence though.

  45. LGY November 29th, 2010 at 8:42 pm

    Good grief thank you WC.

    Now I understand much better why you think 3 45 is not enough. That is all I was wondering because you have been battering us with yankee management hate the past week ;)

  46. Bronx Jeers November 29th, 2010 at 8:42 pm

    Well ” God ” sure gets a lot of praise when things go well in sports so he might as well get some of the grief when they don’t. :wink:

    Would have been funny if he just said “The devil made me drop it!”

  47. GreenBeret7 November 29th, 2010 at 8:44 pm

    RIP, Mr. McDougal. He was an outstanding player in his time at multiple positions. Unfortunately, he’ll always be remembered for a single that he never wished he gotten. Herb Score. It’s been a tough year for the Yankees family.

  48. West Coast Yankee Fan November 29th, 2010 at 8:45 pm

    Feinsand theorized Pettitte may be unhappy with his pay. Not saying it’s true.

  49. Rich in NJ November 29th, 2010 at 8:46 pm

    “Ken Rosenthal on the Uribe contract: ” lifetime .300 OBP, Sabermetricians are going to hate this deal” ”
    __

    He was a 3.2 WAR player last season. It’s really about value, and at the contract he signed, he will likely be cost-effective. Rosenthal should stick to reporting.

  50. West Coast Yankee Fan November 29th, 2010 at 8:47 pm

    LGY – I don’t think Jeter is done. Maybe I’m wrong. As to Yankee management, yes, I have issues with how they have handled this. I have said it’s more based on the process, their public posturing, than the money.

  51. mick November 29th, 2010 at 8:49 pm

    So let’s say this is true and the Rangers offer Pettitte $15 million. What do you do if you are the Yankees?
    =====================================
    They better pay em.

  52. blake November 29th, 2010 at 8:51 pm

    “He was a 3.2 WAR player last season. It’s really about value, and at the contract he signed, he will likely be cost-effective. Rosenthal should stick to reporting.”

    I think its a pretty good move for the Dodgers.

  53. Rich in NJ November 29th, 2010 at 8:52 pm

    It’s a negotiation. You don’t just give in because some clown in Texas thinks he can mess up your payroll.

  54. blake November 29th, 2010 at 8:53 pm

    Texas will stay in on Lee until that’s over to appease their fans, then try to trade for Zack Greinke.

  55. GreenBeret7 November 29th, 2010 at 8:54 pm

    The first thing that Pettitte needs to do is ask for an advance in pay and make sure that the check doesn’t bounce.

  56. mick November 29th, 2010 at 8:54 pm

    Good move by Texas.
    Why wouldn’t Andy walk, he’s done it before.

  57. blake November 29th, 2010 at 8:54 pm

    Yankees Close To Signing Mariano Rivera
    By Ben Nicholson-Smith [November 29 at 7:53pm CST]

    The Yankees are close to signing Mariano Rivera, according to Ken Fidlin of the Toronto Sun.

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/

  58. Tar November 29th, 2010 at 8:55 pm

    “He was a 3.2 WAR player last season.”

    Question: why does Fangraphs have him at 3.2 WAR and Baseball Reference 2.0 WAR?

  59. Rich in NJ November 29th, 2010 at 8:56 pm

    Why would the Toronto Sun have a scoop on Rivera?

  60. MorningPerson November 29th, 2010 at 8:57 pm

    I don’t get some of the people here, I really really don’t.

  61. SJ44 November 29th, 2010 at 8:58 pm

    I think some of you need a game to concentrate on.

    Andy Pettitte isn’t signing with the Rangers.

  62. blake November 29th, 2010 at 8:59 pm

    “Why would the Toronto Sun have a scoop on Rivera?”

    I was wondering that myself….but that’s what it says, around 17 million per, doesn’t say if its one or two years.

  63. Rich in NJ November 29th, 2010 at 8:59 pm

    Tar

    They use a different methodology.

  64. SAS November 29th, 2010 at 8:59 pm

    RIP Gil McDougald…I never spelled your name right ’til tonight. I watched him when I was a kid and a teenager. He was good and GB very handsome. I met him with Mickey Mantle and another Yankee coming out of the elevator at a friend’s apartment. It was one of the most exciting days of my life at that time and in retrospect too.

  65. MorningPerson November 29th, 2010 at 9:03 pm

    SJ -

    Don’t you know? The Yankees are an awful organization that mistreats and underpays and undervalues its players, who are just waiting for the opportunity to spite them???

    Sheesh.

  66. Tar November 29th, 2010 at 9:03 pm

    Thanks Rich.

    One of them should call it something different.

  67. raymagnetic November 29th, 2010 at 9:05 pm

    Did anyone think Andy was going to sign with Houston years ago? I sure didn’t.

    Until Andy signs a new contract or retires there’s a possibility he’ll sign with the Rangers.

  68. Rich in NJ November 29th, 2010 at 9:07 pm

    Tar

    http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs.....ed-in-war/

  69. mick November 29th, 2010 at 9:08 pm

    Did anyone think Andy was going to sign with Houston years ago? I sure didn’t.

    Until Andy signs a new contract or retires there’s a possibility he’ll sign with the Rangers.
    ====================================
    Money and 2 years talk…

  70. mick November 29th, 2010 at 9:08 pm

    How would Lee like to stay in Texas with Andy?

  71. LGY November 29th, 2010 at 9:10 pm

    WCYF,

    When you say you hope Andy takes the Yankees to the cleaners you have taken this pro management thing way too far.

    What motivation would you have to want that?

    BTW, based on the number of innings Pettitte pitched last year you could very easily make the argument he was overpaid, not underpaid.

    There is actually a good case to make that Pettitte should receive a pay cut based on last season.

  72. 4time November 29th, 2010 at 9:11 pm

    “Until Andy signs a new contract or retires there’s a possibility he’ll sign with the Rangers.”

    Especially if they are willing to pay him more

  73. MorningPerson November 29th, 2010 at 9:11 pm

    Actually, as it was playing out, I did think Andy would sign with Houston. He was in his prime and the Yankees were not all gung-ho. Houston was closer to home, making a representative offer. So, yes, I did think at the time that Houston was a viable contender for Andy Pettitte’s services at the time.

    At this time, when Andy goes season to season deciding to pitch, and when Andy Pettitte says publicly that it’s the Yankees or retirement, I don’t think the Rangers are a real landing spot for Andy.

  74. LGY November 29th, 2010 at 9:13 pm

    *anti*-management

  75. mick November 29th, 2010 at 9:13 pm

    At this time, when Andy goes season to season deciding to pitch, and when Andy Pettitte says publicly that it’s the Yankees or retirement, I don’t think the Rangers are a real landing spot for Andy.
    ==============================
    If Texas makes him a better deal, he’s a goner.

  76. MorningPerson November 29th, 2010 at 9:13 pm

    Why would 2 years talk? Andy has made it a point of his to go year to year and NOT make a long term commitment.

  77. Rich in NJ November 29th, 2010 at 9:15 pm

    “When you say you hope Andy takes the Yankees to the cleaners you have taken this pro management thing way too far.”

    Yeah, I don’t understand this line of thinking either.

    I want the teams I root for to have as many good players as possible. The best way to do that is to sign them to the most cost-effective contracts possible.

  78. ZMAN November 29th, 2010 at 9:15 pm

    “when Andy Pettitte says publicly that it’s the Yankees or retirement”

    He can always backtrack and say he initially didn’t see himself anywhere but NY, but Ryan convinced him to come there. Or he could use a family excuse and say his family decided it was best for him to stay in Texas. Or if the Rangers offer him more money, he can use that excuse.

    I doubt his “Yankees or bust” proclamation would be the reason he doesn’t go to Texas. He can always weasel his way out of that promise, if he chooses to.

  79. mick November 29th, 2010 at 9:15 pm

    Why would 2 years talk? Andy has made it a point of his to go year to year and NOT make a long term commitment.
    ==================
    Andy knows what to say…

  80. raymagnetic November 29th, 2010 at 9:16 pm

    MP,

    I thought in the end he’d sign with the Yankees. All I’m saying is that Andy left once, there’s always a chance he’ll leave again despite what he’s been saying publicly.

  81. Tom in N.J. November 29th, 2010 at 9:16 pm

    “Rangers sources denied to MLB.com’s Bryan Hoch that they’ve contacted Pettitte. The only contact between the team and the left-hander occured after the ALCS when Pettitte called Ryan to congratulate him.”

    -MLBTR

  82. GreenBeret7 November 29th, 2010 at 9:18 pm

    SAS, McDougal came up as a rookie in 1951 and was ROY. Nice but, he came up with Mantle. He could play anywhere and did. Always a top “clutch” WS player. That one at bat was almost his last. He said that if Score lost the eye, he was quitting, and he never was the same player after that. As it turned out, he was finished a couple of years later because of an ear infection cost him his hearing and his equilibrium. The guy could flat out hit. The last game that I ever saw him play live was in 1960 in Detroit. 20 September. 2-3 with 2 walks and 2 solo homers against Paul Foytack. Mantle got the headlines though because of a 3 run homer that left Tiger stadium over the top of the right center field stands, into a lumber yard across the street. A nice guy and very humble in every interview I’ve seen.

  83. West Coast Yankee Fan November 29th, 2010 at 9:18 pm

    LGY – Make a case that he should take a pay cut? IP? You are going to penalize players now for injury time?

    11-3 3.28 ERA

    Come on. Don’t take this to the surreal.

    As to the management posture I take, I have told you my opinion. I’m not a Hal and Hank fan and I have said why numerous times.

  84. MorningPerson November 29th, 2010 at 9:18 pm

    LGY -

    I know where Randy l comes from with his point of view.

    But there are people here who I just don’t get. It’s as if they’re hoping the Yankees lose every player that was ever near and dear to them. They dig in their heels with anti-Yankees sentiment, cloaking it in pro-player sentiment, and it’s really, really starting to get to me. I haven’t said anything. But now, since it’s going from Jeter to Pettitte, I am just mindboggled.

    The Yankees are far from perfect, but they’ve paid their players pretty well over the years, I’d say. And the fact that they let Pettitte call the shots as to whether he’s going to play or not, without rushing him, is pretty darn sporting of them.

  85. Rich in NJ November 29th, 2010 at 9:18 pm

    So Feinsand got played. *shocked*

  86. MorningPerson November 29th, 2010 at 9:21 pm

    Rich in NJ -

    I guess that’s what happens when you have to be the first to “tweet” everything you hear. :?

  87. BTX November 29th, 2010 at 9:22 pm

    Heyman says no deal with Rivera is “imminent”.

    So today, 3 news stories about our unsigned guys all had conflicting reports.

    Heyman reported the Yanks were going to up the offer to Jeter, King and Matthews shot him down.

    Feinsand said the Rangers contacted Andy, Hoch shot him down.

    Some guy from the Toronto Sun said Rivera is close to signing, Heyman shot him down.

  88. Tar November 29th, 2010 at 9:22 pm

    Thanks again Rich.

    It would seem that defensive metrics are the culprit.

    Actually from my uninformed perspective, defensive stats appear to be the”Achilles heel” of the whole Sabre movement. At least for the moment.

  89. SAS November 29th, 2010 at 9:23 pm

    GB,

    He was an integral part of those wonderful 50′s teams. I remember him well. That era in baseball is disappearing quickly now.

  90. pat November 29th, 2010 at 9:24 pm

    “But there are people here who I just don?t get. ”

    Don’t discount the possibility they don’t really believe what they say.

  91. Tom in N.J. November 29th, 2010 at 9:24 pm

    Wilderness of Mirrors

  92. LGY November 29th, 2010 at 9:24 pm

    WCYF,

    Of course you should be penalized for injury time. Injury risk is one of the major component of sports contracts. Major.

    Andy only pitched 129 innings last year and is turning 39 next season.

    Based on that number of innings I believe many if not most agree it is “worth” $11.75 dollars. For example, fangraphs pegged his value in 2010 at $9.2 million.

    Because of the injuries he suffered last year, the limited number of innings he pitched, and his age I think it would be reasonable for the Yankees to walk into the room and say we want to take your salary down to 9 or 10 million for example. Or we want to lower the guaranteed a bit and put bonuses for IP like they did a couple years ago.

    I don’t mind them just re-upping him at 11.75, but there is definitely a case to be made that is an overpay.

  93. mick November 29th, 2010 at 9:24 pm

    Heyman reported the Yanks were going to up the offer to Jeter, King and Matthews shot him down.

    Feinsand said the Rangers contacted Andy, Hoch shot him down.

    Some guy from the Toronto Sun said Rivera is close to signing, Heyman shot him down.
    ========================================================
    Just doing their jobs.

  94. LGY November 29th, 2010 at 9:25 pm

    MP,

    Yeah I definitely see where randy is coming from. I just like to have fun with him.

    Wanting Andy to take the Yankees to the cleaners, to the detriment of the team, because of a bone to pick with Hank and Hal I don’t get at all.

  95. LGY November 29th, 2010 at 9:27 pm

    *not worth 11.75*

  96. West Coast Yankee Fan November 29th, 2010 at 9:27 pm

    I disagree, you don’t penalize a player for being injured unless it is endemic. The Yankees can offer whatever they want – and Pettitte can take the offer or not.

  97. mick November 29th, 2010 at 9:28 pm

    Anyone who thinks Andy is leaving a 2nd year of guaranteed money on the table is naive.
    He says the same thing every year.

  98. Tar November 29th, 2010 at 9:28 pm

    LGY

    Are you really going to start a second front with Andy.

    Haven’t you read your history books. :wink:

  99. MorningPerson November 29th, 2010 at 9:29 pm

    pat –

    Something to think about.

  100. Tom in N.J. November 29th, 2010 at 9:29 pm

    LGY is going to attack Russia in the winter?

  101. GreenBeret7 November 29th, 2010 at 9:31 pm

    SAS November 29th, 2010 at 9:23 pm
    GB,

    He was an integral part of those wonderful 50’s teams. I remember him well. That era in baseball is disappearing quickly now.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    So few left now. Ford, Berra, Skowron, Richardson and Kubek are about it. It’ll be a pretty hollow OTD now.

  102. Giuseppe Franco November 29th, 2010 at 9:32 pm

    So now the Rangers could outbid the Yanks for Pettitte? LOL.

    SJ is right. Some people need a game to focus on. Then again, maybe that’s not such a good thing either.

    The board turns into 50% complaints as soon as the lineup is posted.

  103. LGY November 29th, 2010 at 9:32 pm

    WCYF,

    I am going to try to put this as kindly as possible.

    If you don’t think injuries especially with players close to 40 factor into contracts I don’t know what sport you are watching.

  104. mick November 29th, 2010 at 9:33 pm

    So now the Rangers could outbid the Yanks for Pettitte? LOL.
    ========================================
    Why is that impossible?

  105. LGY November 29th, 2010 at 9:34 pm

    Tar,

    :lol:

    I have no issue with the Yankees just re-upping Andy at 11.75. I am just saying I see the argument for a pay cut.

    If Andy wants a raise though I would like to see the Yankees negotiate it down instead of just handing it to him.

  106. GreenBeret7 November 29th, 2010 at 9:35 pm

    Forget Tulowitzski until he’s 37.

    Rockies, Tulowitzki Nearing Ten-Year Extension
    By Ben Nicholson-Smith [November 29 at 8:30pm CST]
    The Rockies are nearing a ten-year extension with shortstop Troy Tulowitzki, according to ESPN.com’s Keith Law. Tulowitzki is midway through the six-year, $31MM extension he signed before the 2008 season. The new deal may overwrite the minimum three years and $25.75MM that the Rockies still owe.

  107. Giuseppe Franco November 29th, 2010 at 9:38 pm

    # mick November 29th, 2010 at 9:33 pm

    So now the Rangers could outbid the Yanks for Pettitte? LOL.
    ========================================
    Why is that impossible?

    ————

    Because it’s the Rangers and they don’t have the money to outbid the Yanks for any player the Yanks really want.

    Secondly, why on earth would Pettitte want to pitch in Texas outside of being close to home?

    NY is the family’s second home already and the Yanks will have a better chance to win the WS than Texas, especially if he returns and they sign Lee.

  108. Tar November 29th, 2010 at 9:38 pm

    LGY

    Sounds like all rest and recuperation leave will have to be cancelled. :D

  109. Yogi Mantle November 29th, 2010 at 9:41 pm

    Regarding reports that a deal is close/not close, its what we see every single off season, and they mean nothing.

    Both sides allow things to leak out, this is all part of the negotiations and soundings they do to gauge the market. Till they are talking about terms and figures and are pretty much inking the deal, no deal is really “close”. It isn’t a race, and things can come together or fall apart just a quickly. Need a reminder? How about when Texas ended up getting Lee after everything was agreed to in principle by the Mariners?

  110. mick November 29th, 2010 at 9:43 pm

    GF

    The Rangers have enough to offer Lee. They could get Andy for less.
    The Yanks won’t give him 2 years and will prob. top out at 11.5.
    You mean to say he would walk away from 20/2?
    That’s a lot of dough and he likes being home with his boys.

  111. blake November 29th, 2010 at 9:48 pm

    “Forget Tulowitzski until he’s 37.”

    boo

  112. GreenBeret7 November 29th, 2010 at 9:48 pm

    Pettitte hasn’t even decided to play or not, much less make a demand and Texas denies even talking contract with him. He left in 2003, because NYY waited so long to make an offer because of other player. There were concerns about his elbow and NYYs weren’t sure about a long term deal. As it turns out, the concerns were appropriate. He hurt his elbow on a harmless check swing.

  113. RMS November 29th, 2010 at 9:51 pm

    Nolan Ryan can talk to Andy all he wants, but I take Andy at his word, Yankees or retirement.

  114. Patrick November 29th, 2010 at 10:40 pm

    If Andy comes back it will be with the Yankees. And for the record, he was NOT underpaid last year. Not by a longshot

  115. sander November 30th, 2010 at 7:53 am

    Andy will listen to the Rangers just to drive up his price to the Yankees. He may get a few more million or a second year out of the Yanks just by not saying no. He would be stupid not to.

  116. Money Mike November 30th, 2010 at 8:00 am

    Andy was NEVER lured to Texas before, he was forced to move by his wife cause he was cheating on her with some tramp from NY, it was Texas or divorce…. so he chose Texas. get your facts straight.

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